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Amalobhi anamandla asebenza kanzima
ukuze kuqedwe ngokuphelele imali esandleni.

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Kulo lonke elaseYurophu ikakhulukazi e-EU.

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Namuhla sikhuluma nochwepheshe ngalesi sihloko
ozonke amandla akhe ukuvikela iSwitzerland kulesi

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siphetho futhi asindise le ngxenye yenkululeko yethu.

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Siyamukela uRichard Koller, ummeleli
we-'schweiz-macher' nomongameli we-'Freiheitliche Bewegung

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Schweiz' (Umbuthano Wenkululeko waseSwitzerland).

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Ntambama emnandi, ngiyajabula ukuba lapha –
eZindlini zePhalamende – futhi ngicabanga

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ukuthi kuzoba mnandi ukuzwa lokho esizokufunda.

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Abantu abaningi bacabanga ukuthi ukulahla imali
esandleni akuyona into eSwitzerland. Uthini ngalokho?

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Hhayi-ke, mhlawumbe yiphutha.

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Uma singalulungisi iphutha, cishe
sizofunda lokhu ngendlela enzima.

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Ngoba iqiniso liwukuthi abantu abazizwa sengathi imali yesikhumba
iyasuswa ngqo – ngoba akuyona abaphathi bezepolitiki abayisusayo;

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abaphathi bezepolitiki abayenzi lutho
ngempela ukuze bavikele imali yesikhumba, kodwa

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umnotho usebenza ukunciphisa imali yesikhumba.

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Sesivele siyibona emakethe yamaKhisimusi – nakwezinye
izimakethe futhi – siyibona ezinkampanini, ezitolo

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zokubhaka ezithile, ezingasavumi imali esandleni ngokuzumayo.

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Sikubona lokhu ezindaweni
zokudlela ezisebenza ngaphandle kwemali.

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Ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, umnotho uzokwehlisa futhi ususe imali
esandleni, futhi lokhu manje kwenzeka ngokushesha ezokuthutha

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zomphakathi, lapho imali esandleni isingasasetshenziswa khona.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi abantu abakhokha ngemali esandleni
ngeke basakwazi ukuthenga amathikithi ezokuthutha zomphakathi.

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Lokhu kwehlisa izimpahla zethu
zemali. Futhi kumele sikulwe lokhu.

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Kukhona futhi iqiniso lokuthi sinazo izinhlangano
zamazwe ngamazwe, ezifana ne-Better than Cash Alliance.

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Lezi zasungulwa ngo-2012 yiBill & Melinda Gates Foundation, iFord
Foundation, i-USAID nezinye izikhungo ezinkulu ezibalulekile.

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Futhi bazibekele umgomo wokuyeka ukusebenzisa imali
yesandla emhlabeni wonke nokuyishintsha ngemali yedijithali.

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Kuyathakazelisa, futhi kubonisa kahle iSwitzerland, ukuthi nakuba
i-SECO yethu – uMnyango Wezwe Wezomnotho – ingazange ibambe

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iqhaza ekusungulweni kwalesi sinyathelo ngo-2012, yaqala
ukukhokha izigidi ezimbili zamafranki aseSwitzerland ekususweni

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kwemali esandleni ngo-2012 futhi yaphinde yaqokwa
ukudlulisa zonke izobuchwepheshe nolwazi oluhlobene nokudluliswa

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kwemali ngedijithali, ikakhulukazi emazweni asathuthuka.

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Lokhu empeleni kukhombisa ukuthi ukususwa kwemali
yesandla kuyinjongo iSwitzerland esebenza kuyo phambili.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi kungaba ubuwula ukukholelwa
ukuthi imali ayisoze isuswe lapha eSwitzerland.

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Yingakho kubalulekile ukuthi sikwazi
ukufaka imali esisekelweni somthethosisekelo.

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Kungani imali kufanele iqedwe ngempela?

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Kunezizathu eziningana, kodwa esinye
esibaluleke kakhulu yisimo sezimali somhlaba wonke.

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Isimo sezimali sifana nokuthi umhlaba empeleni usemalimweni.

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Ngokukhethekile, ngenani eliphindwe kathathu lamandla
abantu abangawakha ngonyaka. Futhi lokhu akunakukhokhwa.

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Lokhu kungasho ukuthi abantu kuzodingeka basebenze
iminyaka emithathu bengasebenzisi noma yiziphi

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izinsiza noma badle ukuze bakhokhe le ntaba yemalimboleko.

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Futhi yingakho kuzoba nokudilika
kwezezimali ngesinye isikhathi esizayo.

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Akuseyona indaba yokuthi ngabe lokhu kuzokwenzeka, kodwa
sekuyindaba yokuthi kuzokwenzeka nini. Kuzozihlasela

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ngaphakathi esimweni samanje sezimali emhlabeni jikelele.

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Futhi lokho, impela, kuyisizathu esisodwa sokuthi izikhulu zifuna
ukuqeda imali, ukuze ngemva kokuwohloka kwezezimali, ngemva kokuba

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konke sekuphukile, bakwazi ukulawula abantu nokulawula yonke
imo yezimali ngendlela yokuthi yakhiwe kabusha ngenhlanhla yabo.

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Ngaphandle kwalokho, vele, uma konke lokho kwenzeka,
abantu abathile bazohlanganyela amandla, amaqembu

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namazwe azohlanganyela amandla futhi bazakhe ngokwabo.

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Abazokuthanda lokho. Futhi manje basemkhankasweni
wokuthenga zonke lezi zinto eziyigugu noma izinsiza.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi wonke amagodi egolide ayathengwa, igolide
liyathengwa, isiliva liyathengwa, nomhlaba wezolimo uyathengwa.

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EMelika, uBill Gates manje ungumnikazi
omkhulu kunabo bonke wemhlaba wezolimo.

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Futhi lokho kukhombisa ukuthi lesi sibhamu sezimali siyaphuka.

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Futhi lokhu kumele kugwenywe nganoma yiziphi izindleko,
ukuze imali iqhubeke ijikeleza ekugcineni, ivumele abantu

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baqhubeke besebenza ngokuzimela futhi bahlale bengalawuleki.

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Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi kubi kangakanani,
ungakubona manje emazweni afana neNorway,

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iSweden neDenmark, angasasebenzi imali esandleni.

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Kuyenzeka futhi ukulwa impi namuhla – isibonelo, iSweden,
enezingaphansi kuka-10% wemali

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esashintshwayo – njengelizwe, awudingi ngisho
ukuhlasela, ungavala nje ugesi noma i-inthanethi yabo.

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Lokho kungasho ukuthi phakathi kwamaviki amabili noma amathathu,
izwe lizoba sezidilikajeni – ngokwezomnotho –

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futhi mhlawumbe libe nempi yombango, ngoba khona-ke
kuzoba umbuzo wezinsiza, okungukuthi ukudla, konke.

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Futhi lokho kukhombisa ukuthi kubaluleke
kangakanani ukuba uchwepheshe ubuchwepheshe bedijithali, futhi

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imali yesandla ngempela izoba yinto embi ngalokho.

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ISweden neNorway manje sezizama ukuguqula lo
mkhuba, njengoba sezibonile ingozi abayithathayo.

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Kodwa manje akusasebenzi, noma sekathi manje ukuthi
amabhizinisi kumele amukele imali ephathekayo futhi.

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Abantu abanayo imali, futhi imali ayisasekelwa,
ngakho-ke sebebhekene nesimo esinzima kakhulu okwamanje.

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Kukhona umthetho odinga ukwamukelwa
kwamaphepha emali nezimali zensimbi.

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Kungani imali esandleni isenganqatshwa?

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ESwitzerland, umthetho wethu wemali, i-WZG, uthi
esigabeni 3 wonke umuntu kumele amukele amaphepha emali

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akhishwe yiBhange Kazwelonke, ngaphandle kwemikhawulo.

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Nokho, le ndatshana iyinketho, okusho ukuthi
isebenza kuphela uma kuthathwa izinyathelo zomthetho.

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Isibonelo, uma ibhakeki ibhala ethi "Asamukeli imali," futhi
ikhasimende lingena lifuna ukuthenga okuthile futhi liyazi ukuthi

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ibhakeki alamukeli imali, khona-ke akusoze kwakhiwe noma yiluphi
uhlelo, okusho ukuthi akusoze kwenzeke noma yiluphi ukuhweba.

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Futhi uma kungekho nxaxheba eyake yenzeka,
awukwazi ukumangalela ngaphansi kwalo mthetho.

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Futhi yilokho inkinga ngemithetho enikeza umnotho amandla
okuzikhethela: awukwazi ukuthatha izinyathelo

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zomthetho ngokumelene nayo, okusho ukuthi umnotho
unamandla okuzinqumela ukuthi uzamukela imali noma cha.

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Umkhankaso odumile othi "Imali iyinkululeko"
uthole isiphakamiso esiphikisayo esivela eKhanselini

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Lwefederal. Yini umehluko phakathi kwazo ezimbili?

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Ngakho-ke, thina kwa-Volksinitiative siyacela
ukuthi uhulumeni kazwelonke ahlale enikeza

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inani elanele lemali yensimbi namaphepha emali.

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Futhi isiphakamiso esibuyekeziwe seFederal
Council manje sithi iBhange Kazwelonke liyona

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elibhekele ukuqinisekisa ukuthi imali iyasakazeka.

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Futhi lokho, ngempela, kuwumahluko omkhulu –
kuyinkohliso encane kahulumeni – ngoba

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inkinga manje evelayo ithi ayikho imali efanayo.

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Ngoba lapho ngithi 'ukhokha ngemali' ngempela ngisho ukuthi
angikhokhi ngemali yebhange, okusho ukuthi

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angikhokhi ku-akhawunti noma ngenothi lesithembiso noma
okuthile okufana nalokho, kodwa ngikhokha ngemali.

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Futhi ekusetshenzisweni kwesiFulentshi nesi-Italy,
"je paie cash" kusho "ngikhokha ngemali", kodwa lokho

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futhi kusho ukuthi ngingakhokha ngedebhithi khadi .

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Yingakho-ke kuhle ukuthi uhulumeni kazwelonke anqume ukuthi
iBhange Likazwelonke kumele liqinisekise ukutholakala

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kwemali, ngaleyo ndlela likwazi ukuhlinzeka ngemali
kagesi ngaphandle kokuphikisana noMthethosisekelo Kazwelonke.

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Ngakho-ke, asikwazi ukwamukela isiphakamiso
esibuyisayo esiqondile sikahulumeni kazwelonke

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njengoba sikhona namuhla – sisenezikhetho ngoMashi.

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Imali yedijithali yesikhathi esizayo izobukeka kanjani?

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Imali yedijithali yesikhathi esizayo cishe
izoba inhlanganisela ye-cryptocurrency ne-Twint.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu kusho ukuthi kuzosebenza kuphela ngedivayisi
yedijithali. Namuhla, sesijwayele lokhu kumafoni eselula.

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Lona iyithherminali yedijithali, futhi imali, okungukuthi yonke
inqubo yokukhokha, izophathwa nge-wallet ebizwa kanjalo –

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okungukuthi isikhungo sokushintshanisa, isikhwama semali,
noma i-wallet – esizobekwa kule thherminali yedijithali.

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Futhi leli terminali ledijithali lingaxhumana
neBhange Kazwelonke laseSwitzerland, ngicabanga.

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Wonke umuntu wayezoba ne-akhawunti
eyodwa kuphela – ngeke kube namabhange.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi uma sifuna ukuthenga okuthile,
inqubo izodinga ukuthi siqale sibe endaweni evunyiwe.

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Okwesibili, ukuthi singathenga noma yini
esisekhona kithi – noma noma yini ekhona kithi –

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futhi kuphela ngenani elikhishiwe kithi, vele.

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Ngakho-ke besizoba ngaphansi kokulawulwa ngokuphelele.

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Yebo, usuvele wathi okuthile ngalokho –
engangifuna ukukubuza njengokulandela ukuthi: Yiziphi

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izingozi esizibhekana nazo ngempela ngaphandle kwemali?

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Yebo, kunezingozi eziningi. Kimina, ingozi enkulu kakhulu
ukuthathwa kwempahla ngenxa yamazinga enzalo amabi – noma...

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UChristine Lagarde wathi ngo-2016 – ngokweBlick , ngikholwa
ukuthi kwakungu-14 Ephreli, njengokubikiwe yiBlick – ukuthi:

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Isizathu esisodwa kuphela sokuthi amazinga enzalo
amabi angasebenzi ukuthi sisenezimali ezisabalele.

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Uma, impela, kungekho mali esele ejikeleza, lokhu bekuzosho
ukuthi abantu bebengavikelekile nhlobo uma ibhange likazwelonke

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lingazisa ngokuzumayo, "Manje sesisusa u-10% ngonyaka
kuwo wonke ama-akhawunti ngoba siyidinga ngezizathu zokuphatha."

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Awusoze uphinde ukwazi ukuthenga izinto
ngemali esandleni usebenzisa ezinye izindlela.

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Lokho-ke bekungaba nokwenzeka kuphela ngemali
yedijithali. Futhi yilona ingozi enkulu kakhulu kimi.

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Ngakho-ke ngicabanga ukuthi izinga lenzalo
elingezinhle nokuthathwa kwempahla kuzokwenzeka.

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Khona-ke, vele, kunezinye izingozi.

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Ngakho-ke, impela, ingozi enkulu eyodwa ukuncika –
njengoba ngishilo ngaphambilini – kagesi nase-inthanethi.

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Ngakho-ke uma okuthile kuphuka,
ukuthengiselana kwezimali akusasebenzi ngokushesha.

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Kukhona futhi iqiniso lokuthi ngeke sibe
namandla okugcina ukumelana nezimo eziphuthumayo .

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi ezimeni eziphuthumayo – njengalezo
okwamanje eziwela eNorway naseSweden – ngeke kube

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sekwenzeka ukuqhubeka nokusebenza ngenxa yokulahlekelwa yimali.

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Lokho kungasho ukuthi uma singenayo i-inthanethi, umnotho
wawuzomisa ukusebenza. Wawuzomisa futhi awusazosebenzi.

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Nokho, ngemali esandleni, besingakwazi okungenani
ukuqhubeka nokukhokha, noma yebo, umnotho ungakwazi ukuqhubeka

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nokuba khona futhi umonakalo omubi kakhulu ungavinjwa.

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Lena enye iphuzu elibalulekile.

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Siyaqhubeka sizwa ukuthi le mali yedijithali isenza
sibe sobala ngokuphelele. Ingabe lokho kuyiqiniso?

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Yebo, lokho ngempela kunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke lezi zimali zedijithali zebhange eliphakathi , impela
zinamandla kakhulu ngoba zigcinwa kumadivayisi edijithali

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ezikhwameni zemali zedijithali, futhi kungenzeka ukubhekwa ukuthi
uphi, ukuthi uthenge ini nokuthi ukhokha malini ngento ethile.

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Futhi lokho bekuzoholela ekutheni abantu
babe ngaphansi kokulawulwa ngokuphelele.

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Kufana kakhulu nohlelo lwamakredithi
omphakathi, njengoba silwazi eChina – noma.

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Ngalesi sibono, lokho kunjalo yingozi enkulu kakhulu.

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Kodwa lokho ngicabanga ukuthi sekuyaziwa kahle
emphakathini jikelele ukuthi lokhu kungenzeka.

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Yebo, kuhle, ngiyabonga ngalokho. Siphinde
safinyelela ini ngempela eSwitzerland kule ndawo?

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Kahle, eSwitzerland sesihambe ibanga elide ngoba, ngenxa yokuthi
saqalisa imizamo ethandwayo – okungukuthi "Imali

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iyinkululeko" – manje sesifike endaweni lapho sinquma ukuthi
iyiphi inguqulo yokuvikelwa kwemali ezofakwa emthethosisekelo.

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Sizolwela, impela, ukuqinisekisa ukuthi inguqulo
yethu – enezimali zensimbi namaphepha – ukuze

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siqinisekise ukuthi ngeke idlulwe ngobuqili ekugcineni.

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Siphambili kakhulu kunabo bonke
eYurophu, futhi lokho kubalulekile naseYurophu.

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Ngoba uma siphumelela ukufaka lokho kuMthethosisekelo
waseSwitzerland, ngeke kube lula ukususa imali esandleni

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eYurophu, ngoba kuzosheshisa ukuphunyuka kwemali eSwitzerland.

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Uma iJalimane ithi, "Asisenayo imali esandleni," wonke
umuntu wayezokhipha imali yakhe esandleni ngokushesha

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ayiyisa eSwitzerland, ngoba lapho imali izoba iphephile.

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Ngakho-ke, impela sisendaweni ekhululekile
eSwitzerland uma kuqhathaniswa namanye amazwe.

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Futhi ingabe lokho kwanele ukugcina imali eSwitzerland?

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Cha, impela akwanele, kungumthethosisekelo kuphela.

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Njengoba ngishilo ekuqaleni, umnotho uzosusa
imali, futhi ukuze lokho kwenzeke, thina bantu kumele

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sikhokhe ngemali ukuze umnotho ungakwazi ukuyisusa.

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Ngakho-ke, iMigros neCoop akufanele ngokuzumayo baqale ukufaka
lezi zimishini zokuzibhekela zokukhokha kuphela – noma ngabe

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ziyabizwa kanjani – lapho wonke umuntu kumele akhokhe
ngedijithali, kodwa thina sisakhokha kakhulu

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ngemali, ngisho nasezindaweni zokudlela nakwezinye zonke
izindawo, ukuze inani lemali lisahlala liphezulu.

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uThorsten Hens, umcwaningi wezezimali noprofesa eNyuvesi
yaseZurich, uthe ngokusobala ukuthi "njengoba imali ibala

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u-15% kuwo wonke amarekhodi ezimali, imali isingasindiseki".

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Wathi lokhu engxoxweni ne-SRF ngo-2020, futhi kukhombisa
ukuthi namuhla – ngo-25% – sesiseduze kakhulu naleli

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threeshodi, futhi kumele sithathe izinyathelo ukuze silivimbe.

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Ngakho ngiyajabula ukuthi abantu manje
sebephinde baqala ngempela ukukhokha ngemali.

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Lokho kusiholela embuzweni olandelayo: abantu bangenza
ini, yini okunye okufanele yenziwe, futhi singenza ini?

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Ngakho-ke, mhlawumbe lawa amaphuzu amabili
noma amathathu abalulekile kakhulu okwamanje.

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Ngakho-ke, empeleni, kuzoba nengxoxo-mpikiswano enye eMkhandlwini
Kazwelonke ngoMashi mayelana nesiphakamiso sikaThomas Burgherr.

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Ngaphezu komkhankaso wethu odumile, ufuna futhi ukwamukelwa
kwezomnotho – okungukuthi, hhayi ukwamukelwa

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okuphoqelekile, kodwa ukwamukelwa okujwayelekile
– okufuna ukukubona kufakwe emthethosisekelo.

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Manje sizobasekela laba. Njengama-schweiz-macher,
sidale isicelo esingasayinwa abantu abaningi manje.

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Ngiyancoma lokhu –
www.schweiz-macher.ch – lapho ungusayina khona isicelo.

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Siphinde sagqugquzela izinhlangano zabantu asebekhulile –
ezinkulu ezinamalungu angu-280 000 – ukuba

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zisixhase ekutholeni ukuthi lesi siphakamiso
samukelwe yiNational Council neCouncil of States.

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Kulokhu-ke, vele, kunokuba kumele siye ezindaweni zokuvota.

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Ngakho-ke sizojabula kakhulu uma manje singathola
ukwesekwa kwezezimali, ngoba akunakwenzeka ngaphandle kwemali.

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Abanye banezigidigidi – ngakho sidinga ngempela imali eningi
ukuze sibe nethuba ekhethweni, kodwa okubaluleke

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kakhulu ukuthi abantu ngempela baphume baye
phandle, baphathe imali esandleni futhi bakhokhe ngemali.

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Yebo, ngokwami, ngithanda kakhulu ukuthatha leli thuba ukucela
bonke izakhamuzi zethu ukuthi bakhokhe ngemali yesandla kaningi

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ngangokunokwenzeka esikhathini esizayo – mhlawumbe ngisho
nokukhetha izitolo ezisamukela imali yesandla kunalezo

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ezingasayamukeli, ngoba le ndaba ibaluleke
kakhulu, kakhulu, kakhulu ekuqinisekiseni

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ukuthi singagcina imali yesandla eSwitzerland.

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Kubalulekile ezinganeni zethu nakithi ukuthi
sivunyelwe ukuqhubeka siphila ngenkululeko. Ngiyabonga kakhulu!

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Mnu. Koller, ungikholisile.

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Ngizokuqhubeka ngikhokha ngemali ngoba ngifuna
ukugcina imali nokuqinisekisa ukuthi isazotholakala kithi.

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Siyabonga kakhulu ngokuzibophezela kwakho, Mnu.
Koller. Sikufisela konke okuhle emsebenzini wakho ozayo.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, futhi ngikufisela
impumelelo eqhubekayo emsebenzini wakho. Ngiyabonga.