Today we're talking to John Kage and Dr. Chris Flowers.
John Kage is a leading medical freedom activist from Brazil.
He is at the forefront of efforts to protect children from medical tyranny and let the world
know what the Brazilian government is up to now.
Dr. Chris Flowers is a retired scientific radiologist, author and journal reviewer.
He is leading War Room/DailyClout's medical investigation of the Pfizer documents.
As a result of these investigations, Pfizer was forced by a request to release the documents relating to the vaccine trials.
His group combed through these documents with thousands of volunteers, including many
experts, to bring the content to the public.
Thank you for joining us today!
Thank you very much, Kla.TV. It's a pleasure to be here.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to report on what is happening here in Brazil.
Interviewer: Wonderful. We're delighted and honored. Let's start with you, John.
Give us an update on the COVID vaccination requirements for infants, babies and toddlers in Brazil.
Yes, here in Brazil we just have mandatory vaccination for six-month-old babies to five-year-old children so
they can go to school. But it's getting worse and worse.
Because if parents refuse to have their children vaccinated with Covid gene therapy, the guardianship authority
and the public prosecutor's office will sue the parents and send them a corresponding notice.
And here in Brazil I know parents who have been fined 30,000 dollars.
Other mothers were asked for 1,000 dollars a day.
And I know another mother who just had four police cars in front of her house.
They took their children with them, four children, and gave them seven vaccines the next day.
The children all suffered damage and injuries. So this is happening everywhere in Brazil.
But in Santa Catarina and Paraná there is a stronger coalition in the public prosecutor's office.
That's why I organized these two public hearings there. That's crazy.
So you're saying that even if the parents can somehow avoid school, it doesn't matter
now. You will take your children with you.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they're suing the parents.
Now they are demanding a fine from the parents.
And they say that even if they pay the fine, they have to be vaccinated with gene therapy.
Otherwise they will sue the parents or separate the parents from their children. That's crazy.
What is going on here in Brazil. Brazil is the only country in the world that does this with children.
And these dollar amounts that you're quoting me would be astronomical in the United States.
I imagine that in Brazil it's just..., I mean, you have to laugh about it.
Nobody can afford 1,000 dollars a day.
Yes. Also the prosecutor's office - if some parents have a medical certificate that the child
is not allowed to get the COVID vaccination...
Yes, an immunization certificate.
The Department simply says we don't believe in this doctor's credentials.
So you have to have your child vaccinated in two weeks - in two weeks.
Otherwise you will have to pay or we will sue you.
You do not accept the doctors' recommendations. You do not accept them.
Yes. That sounds like California regulations "on steroids".
And do you think that Brazil, for example - whoever is at the top level of the globalists or whoever is behind it -
do you think they are using Brazil as a kind of guinea pig?
Are you the world's guinea pigs?
Yes, you know, Brazil is unfortunately a champion of the 2030 Agenda.
Last year, our environment minister and our health minister were at the WEF in Davos in the first half of the year and
they announced on stage that Brazil would be the leader in immunizing people and also in combating climate change.
In my opinion, that is the reason why they are hunting our children here.
Because Brazil will be the next base of the new world order. That is the reason.
Okay, Dr. Flowers, so you're hopeful.
They are a little confident about our prospects with the new government.
I think, yes, in part, I need to be very clear here:
I applied to the FDA, possibly under the direction of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Since I have been conducting clinical trials for over 40 years, it is my job to create
radical transparency for all clinical trials.
Once we have eliminated the influence of Big Pharma in the regulation of Big Pharma.
You know, everyone should have access to the clinical data, especially when the US taxpayer, you and
I, paid for the development of this Pfizer product.
So that they can no longer say, well, this is protected and we have to get our money back
first, as Big Pharma has always done in the past.
You know, I think things are changing, and to be clear, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shook things up a
little bit in the hearings that I followed closely.
And I think there are potentially good times ahead, but we have a very big job ahead of us to clean up the mess that
has been created over the many decades that Big Pharma has basically been in control of the regulators.
Oh, that's fantastic that I'm talking to you and that you're saying that you might actually
have a position in his jurisdiction because...
Let's say I applied because the MAHA movement opened a portal after the election to encourage
people with experience to go into government.
People who have no conflicts of interest, no financial involvement, and of course with my background as
head of the War Room group, Steve Bannon's 'War Room'.
The group has carried out the investigations over the past three years.
Originally under the direction of Dr. Naomi Wolf, but the DailyClout and Naomi Wolf pulled out of the project on
Monday, December 16, leaving the few of us who remain behind.
But we are working hard. We are finalizing a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine requesting the Pollack paper
that was published the day after the emergency authorization.
We have asked that it be reviewed and withdrawn as it is false information.
We gave them all the information they needed to show from Pfizer's own documents, the primary documents that we
reviewed in Pfizer's own words with the clinical trial data, that they concealed deaths, that they concealed autopsies.
Basically, as you know, they kept quiet about some of the serious adverse events.
In March 2021, they already knew at a very high level; they were discussing myocarditis in the White House
with Rochelle Walensky, the CDC director at the time.
And they drafted a response as to how the government should respond and basically said: No, the vaccine was perfectly safe.
So right after the introduction, within two to three months, they knew that they had the evidence that originally came
from the Israel Health Authority that myocarditis was a serious problem, especially after the second shot.
This should therefore have led to an immediate suspension of the project until this had been
investigated, which of course did not happen.
Okay, I assume that what you just said will be part of your presentation to the government
representatives in Santa Catarina and Paraná.
What is the essence, what is the focus of your presentation today and tomorrow during these conferences?
Yes, the Pfizer clinical trial was basically a fraudulent trial.
You have not passed on the results correctly.
There is even evidence that they concealed at least two deaths, and as a result, more people who
received the Covid vaccine, not the placebos, died.
If you had told the vaccine committee, the VRBPAC , the FDA committee, and they were reasonable doctors, they
would have immediately said: This Covid shot doesn't work.
You know, just as many people die whether they take the injection or not. So what does it do? What about its effectiveness?
In other words, nothing really. So basically, I'm reporting on the Pfizer clinical trial, which we
wrote about in a scientific journal in November 2023.
So that was the evidence. It was never refuted because it was made in Pfizer's own words from the primary source documents.
And tomorrow I will also talk about the clinical trials on children, which again were very, very
poorly conducted because virtually everyone got COVID, whether they got the vaccine or not.
And the FDA even required a third vaccination of the children in the study because it didn't work.
So the whole thing with the study, the original study that everything was based on, was a fake.
It showed that the vaccinations did not work.
The experiments with the children were never properly completed.
There was no evidence of any benefit of any kind.
But now, of course, we know from drug monitoring, from European Union documents, from the follow-up of millions of
people and also from the adverse events that have been reported worldwide that these drugs should not be administered.
Even in the studies with children, the only benefit was that antibodies could be developed against a specific spike protein.
The spike protein they developed corresponded to the Wuhan variant, the original one.
It had no effect on patients in the Omicron era.
So even if new variants are produced, you know, this new bivalent booster vaccine.
The antibodies that are produced are basically very, very short-lived.
They have no effect because most people are infected with a different virus and the virus does not cause any serious damage.
Yes. Especially for children. Yes.
Yes, a low-risk group.
Children do not die from Covid. Period.
And with every procedure on a child, you have to make sure that there are no or only minimal risks.
And it doesn't prevent you from getting the disease.
It also does not prevent infection. So you won't infect granny.
So there is no logical reason. There is no scientific reason for the COVID vaccination, and that is why I will present this
information to the judiciary and the citizens tomorrow so that they can see for themselves that this is all wrong.
We have been sold something. We've been sold something, that's basically my answer.
Yes. Well, Dr. Flowers, you're addressing the questions I was going to ask anyway.
I mean, I wanted to talk directly about the children and I wanted to say that the virus
itself is not a deadly danger to the children.
And if that is the case, then the only thing left to do is to infect grandma.
And we know that's nonsense. Do the doctors in Brazil know that too? They must know.
Well, in Brazil, we live here after Lula came to power. President Lula, the socialist, right?
Every doctor who is awake, every journalist who is awake, every conservative politician stops
fighting because they are afraid of being arrested.
You know, we had these protests on January 8, at the beginning of Lula's term.
They were smashed, the Congress etc. arrested over 2,000 activists.
We now have a grandmother who is over 70 years old who has to stay in prison for over 10 years.
So they simply silence anyone who wants to fight against it. But not me.
Daniel knows me, Chris Flowers knows me. My nickname is Samurai because I've been causing tons of
protests since 2023, but it's just me and a few dozen moms.
Brazil only protested when Bolsonaro was in power, or actually only Bolsonaro invited people to take to the streets.
Then there were many millions of activists on the streets, conservatives. But apart from
that, there is no struggle here in Brazil. Zero.
You know, I'm the only one who holds public hearings.
We've held about five international public hearings since 2023, right?
I went out on the street over ten times, you know?
But at the moment, the judges and Lula and the health minister simply feel comfortable because no one is fighting back.
That's it. That's very convenient for them.
The journalists talk about Trump, the war against Israel, Ukraine, everything outside Brazil.
But in my opinion, this coalition against parents and the introduction of compulsory vaccination for babies and
children in February 2024 is the worst thing that has happened in the world since the start of the pandemic.
Because there has never been anything like this in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela or even Nicaragua.
That didn't happen in these countries. It happened in Brazil. It happened in Brazil.
So nobody wants to talk about it. No, there are no adverse event studies here.
The doctors just stay on social media to tell me what they think.
But we have to get out of the bubble and leave the bubble.
That is why we will go to the State Chancellery tomorrow and bring the truth to light.
That is why I invited this international panel of experts:
Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, Dr. Jessica Rose, Dr. Angus Dalgleish, Dr. Maria Hubmer-Mogg,
Dr. Hara from Japan, Dr. Melissa McCann from Australia.
There are over 10 countries that support my fight here.
Because the only way to fight this and fight for our children is to show the rest of the world what is going on.
Because the people here stay in their bubble.
They don't believe that the whole world will stop vaccinating its population with gene therapy.
I would also add something here.
Just don't forget the influence Big Pharma has on pediatricians, for example, the American Academy of
Pediatrics. Incentives have been created for them.
There were incentives for hospitals to a) classify people as having COVID, but b) target people for vaccination,
which is not a vaccination because it's literally gene therapy.
We need to take this money out of education and out of the healthcare system because it is ruining the system.
It is no longer based on science. It is based on following the money.
Yes, exactly. Dr. Flowers, I wanted to ask you something.
You talked about the lawsuits. I was so happy when the application for disclosure was not rejected and we got the material.
Wasn't it the case decades ago with swine flu that the tests caused so much damage that they had to stop the whole thing?
But the bar for the swine flu trials was much lower, and now we have this bar that is very high.
It far exceeds the damage caused by swine flu, and yet this study will not be stopped. Is that right?
That's right. If you look at the Pfizer documents, they basically ignored the safety signals.
That means that for every adverse event reported to the clinical trial site, one of the Pfizer doctors was supposed to look
at that symptom sheet and say whether it was related to the vaccine, and invariably they said "not vaccine-related."
And this even immediately after vaccination or within the first 48 hours, which corresponds to the normal definition.
Or actually, the normal definition of an adverse event due to a medical procedure is up to 30 days afterwards.
As you said, the swine flu business was incredible.
I mean, you have to remember that recently a pediatric RSV trial was stopped because of the same kind of problems.
If there are just one or two serious side effects, they could make the headlines and give
people very bad news, so the trial is stopped.
The biggest problem for us, however, is that this mRNA lipid nanoparticle platform has been researched
for over 30 years and has never proven to be safe.
You know, initially it was a good idea when it was thought that it might help get chemotherapy across the blood-brain barrier for
glioblastoma, which is a very nasty tumor in the brain because the lipid nanoparticles mean that the intervention
gets everywhere, that the mRNA doesn't stay in the arm.
We found that out very early on. It's in the Pfizer documents, but they didn't let anyone know.
After Aaron Siri got his hands on the documents, the document dealing with the biodistribution of the vaccine
was blacked out. All the information was blacked out.
There was a Japanese FOIA that redacted the document, and that's what was available to the rest of us later.
But it took six months before we had this information.
Dr. Flowers, you raise a very good point that I hadn't considered.
To wit: The people who are against this vaccine becoming mandatory or being used at all often point to the fact that we
haven't had the ten or twelve years or however many years.
It usually takes at least eight years to go through the correct testing procedure.
But you tell us: "No, no, it has already been investigated, the results are available." And it's not good.
Yes, which was the mRNA lipid nanoparticle platform, not the COVID platform.
Whereas there is evidence that Moderna collaborated with the government in 2014 to develop a vaccine against
the coronavirus, and when was this furin cleavage site inserted into this gain-of-function research?
Was that before or after Obama said there could be no more gain-of-function research, or was it after, when they developed
cutouts like EcoHealth with Dr. Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina, before it was weaponized again and sent to the
Wuhan Institute of Virology and the 24 bio-war labs in Ukraine.
Wondering why everything revolves around Ukraine?
What else do you need? You're just asking for a friend.
Yes. John, can you tell us again what's coming up in February?
You say this is the worst thing that has happened in Brazil since the start of the pandemic, and
do you mean February of this month or last year?
Last year. Yes, last year.
Okay. That was the beginning of mandatory vaccination for children and infants?
Yes, the Minister of Health had just added COVID gene therapy to our national vaccination program.
This is the usual vaccination program for all other vaccines.
Like a childhood vaccination program. It's the same thing. But it was mandated.
Yes, they have included this COVID gene therapy in this program.
That is the reason, that is the trigger, why the ministry is now sending out notifications and asking parents to pay.
Because they use this excuse: "Oh, you have to get your kids vaccinated because it's now included in the
national vaccination program," that's the excuse they use.
But we have brought some lawyers with us who will prove tomorrow and on Thursday...
They have used a technical approval notice to include this gene therapy in the national immunization program.
That is absolutely illegal, absolutely illegal.
It's never been done before, they have no studies, they have nothing, they just put it in the national
vaccination program; with a technical note like this.
They didn't even publish this so that Brazil would know.
We have nothing in terms of the legal stuff etc. So it's completely illegal.
Okay. Dr. Flowers, are the currently marketed corona vaccines, for example from Pfizer, still based on the same
studies or have new studies been published for the latest round?
You have not told us the results of the alleged studies that were to be continued.
They should have continued the original Pfizer study, but all of these so-called studies have simply
disappeared from the ClinicalTrials.gov website - for starters.
Secondly, there have been lots of small studies, but nothing that is useful to them, so
basically they don't like to talk about it.
I assume you will address this point tomorrow in the meeting.
They will say that the current vaccines coming on the market don't have any trial information that we can look at.
Good. There's something more important.
Pfizer's clinical trial was based on something completely different from what everyone else in the world was receiving.
It was called 'process 1'. It was produced by PCR, which is basically a very purified form.
The BNT162b2, the product with the emergency use authorization, and the Comirnaty that has been used worldwide, contains
something made with E. coli DNA plasmids, which cause all sorts of contamination from DNA fragments and SV40
gene promoters and all sorts of other horrible things.
And some doctors say, well, there's nothing to worry about.
The RNA is simply broken down in the bloodstream, which is true.
But this does not enter the bloodstream in the normal way.
It is injected and protected by lipid nanoparticles.
These DNA fragments are therefore injected directly into the patient's cells. And directly into the cell nucleus.
Especially in infants and children, the cells are naturally constantly growing.
They are in the biggest growth phase.
The greatest risk for them is that the DNA is incorporated into their own genes, which is very, very bad.
Great. Okay. I think you guys need to get back to the meeting now.
I will let you go now. Any final comments?
John, you say you have Japanese blood. You are called John Kage. Your surname could also be Kage.
In Japanese there is an expression called 'shogunai'.
That means: "What are you going to do? What can you do about it? C'est la vie."
We broadcast everything you could say to the international public in many languages. Here we go.
Yes. I can only ask the whole world to support us and spread the word about what's happening here in Brazil.
Brazil is the only country in the world with this compulsory vaccination.
Yesterday I gave an interview for Japan, for Australia and two days ago for a Canadian broadcaster.
So I am asking for an international task force, because I really believe that if the whole world starts talking and spreading
the word about what is going on here, it can exert pressure.
In yesterday's interview with the Australian journalists, one of the doctors' associations suggested going to the
nearest Brazilian embassy and sending a letter of protest.
This will happen. If your country can do this, it will be very helpful and also have a great impact!
But I want people all over the world to talk about it, please. Many thanks to Kla.TV. Thank you very much.
Wonderful. Okay, good. Well, it's good to hear that last comment.
We pray for your efforts in the Assembly. Good luck gentlemen!
Thank you.
Thank you very much. Bye bye. Thank you, Kla.TV!