Sexologists, sex educators, gender dysphoria - New ideology? New experts?
A further development of humanity? Or its destruction?
Our interview guest today takes a stand on these controversial issues.
He studied biology, chemistry and musicology and has been a professor at the University of Kassel for 29 years.
He has been working as a project scientist at Stanford and San Francisco since 2007.
With around 350 scientific publications and 17 specialist books, he is listed in the top
category of all natural scientists on Research Gate.
He attracts media attention with his criticism - of the measures to contain the coronavirus pandemic - of man-made global
warming caused by carbon dioxide - and of gender ideology.
Today's guest on Kla.TV: evolutionary biologist Professor Dr. Ulrich Kutschera.
Welcome, dear viewers, and a very warm welcome to Professor Dr. Kutschera.
Thank you very much for making the journey and being available for an interview here today.
Thank you for the kind invitation.
Prof. Kutschera, buzzwords such as diversity, transgender, LGBTQ, it's hard to imagine life without them nowadays, and a few weeks
ago US President Trump said that he only knows two genders.
Now there was also an election campaign in Germany.
Friedrich Merz has said that he understands that Trump only knows two genders.
This caused a huge outcry from the CSU's gay and lesbian association.
As an evolutionary biologist, what do you think of such statements?
Yes, that is quite astonishing and also a symptom of the decline of our general education. Carl von Linné, a very
important biologist, introduced the term "sexus = biological sex" into the literature as early as 1735.
And since 1735 we biologists have known that there are two sexes in all organisms that have been studied to date (with the
exception of bacteria), i.e. sexus = biological sex, and this has been defined in evolutionary biology since Darwin as follows:
Male individuals (this can be chimpanzees, this can also be humans) are defined as sperm producers, i.e.
individuals that produce many small sex cells = gametes: Individuals that produce many small sex cells = gametes.
Female individuals are defined as egg-providers with a childbearing function.
And over 99.9% of all live births, both in the animal kingdom and in humans, are
exactly the same, so we have over 99% male-female.
No biologist has found a third gamete form in the last 300 years.
This is effectively a mixture of egg cell and sperm cell.
Large, nutrient-rich egg cells, which also contain the mitochondria, small sperm cells. We call this
phenomenon anisogamy = the inequality of gamete types.
And when someone talks about sex, the definition of male-female applies first.
Now the second thing: In biology, we have understood sex to mean the fertilization process,
fusion of egg cell/sperm, for about 200 years.
Erotic acts, i.e. acts of love, can lead to inner fertilization (I'm talking preferably about humans
now), but they don't have to. And this is all mixed up.
People confuse sexus = biological sex/fertilization with eroticism, and the result is, how shall I put it, infinite chaos.
But we are now constantly being told by propaganda that there are more than two genders.
Well, that's about the same intellectual level as saying that the earth is a disc.
There is zero evidence for the statement that there are more than two biological sexes, sexus - we are at sexus.
On the other hand, evidence that there are two sexes is available in thousands of very good scientific publications.
I have contributed a large number of these papers myself.
So it is a pure pre-Darwinian superstition, nothing more.
And how do you think it can come to such a pass that the ideology, which is currently gaining ground in schools, is
propagated to an extreme degree in the media? How can this even gain a foothold in our society when anyone who
has paid even a little attention in biology lessons knows that there are only two genders?
So, we have to define the second term.
Sexus = biological sex, sex = fertilization, we have clarified.
But now there is the term gender.
I must also be very, very clear about this.
Oskar Hertwig - nobody knows him, but he was a very, very important biologist.
He first discovered the act of fertilization in sea urchin eggs - that the sperm fuses with the egg - in 1780.
He coined the term gender in the sense of the development of male and female sex animals.
And the concept of gender plays a huge role in evolutionary research.
For example, there are books on sex and gender in flowering plants.
Flowering plants can be male and female - pollen production, pollination and fertilization of the ovary.
So we have the concept of gender in biology, the development of male and female sex animals.
However, John Money, a psychologist who we can discuss in more detail, coined a new concept of gender in 1955.
And it stands for a person's psychosocial gender, i.e. their perceived manhood or womanhood.
And I have to criticize President Trump now, because he has confused sex and gender.
So, now comes the crucial statement. In over 99% of all men and women, sexus (biological sex), the presence of the primary sexual
organs, ovaries in women, testis (= testicles) in men, these are the primary sexual organs, and they
produce the sperm and eggs and sex hormones naturally.
In other words: the typical man, the typical woman - in 99.9 % of all cases, 999 out of 1,000, it's the same;
but there is a tiny minority, far below 0.1 %, where there is this so-called gender dysphoria.
But now you have asked: Why has this ideology taken hold?
That's where this comes from: this John Money, he was a restless psychologist who came from New Zealand - highly intelligent, by
the way, who then emigrated to the USA, who wrote a doctoral thesis at Harvard University in 1955, where he described intersex
babies - one in 3,000 are intersex babies, not clearly recognizable, male/female, later mostly settles - as
hermaphrodites, which was wrong.000 are intersex babies, not clearly recognizable, male/female, later mostly settled - he
called them hermaphrodites, hermaphrodites, which was wrong - then developed a construct, so to speak, that
the perceived male and female is variable after all.
There are intersex babies who are not exactly right. But that's only one in 3,000.
So he has always failed to mention, and this is the big criticism that I would like to make very clear here, that in over
99% of cases there is no problem at all, sex and gender match.
But because there is a tiny minority, less than 0.1%, quite real, where an anatomical male, an XY
person, has a female brain tick. That is very rare.
On this basis, this milkmaid ideology was then coined, that basically (because there are intersex babies,
so these transsexual people are very, very rare) we can all somehow change our sex/gender.
But even the distinction that I have now clearly made here is not being made.
It's just chaos, which basically takes place at pre-kindergarten level. Why?
Children can intuitively distinguish between boys and girls.
This is an innate disposition.
And children know that 99.9% of all other children are male, female. That there are these rare exceptions, okay,
they exist everywhere. There are exceptions everywhere.
In other words, an ideology that practically conceals the fact that it only affects a tiny
minority where sex and gender do not coincide.
That is the answer.
But John Money is hardly known here in Germany.
Of course they don't mention it.
But how can it be, when you say that in terms of the figures, that such a small minority, I would say the majority,
is almost terrorized by the current trends in our society.
You can't even say there are only two genders anymore.
Yes, the word "terrorized" is exactly right.
I can underline everything you say.
So, how does that happen now?
One of the reasons for this is that in Germany - and in the USA too, but Trump is now speaking plainly and has now laid it
down in law - minorities obviously have so much support from the left-green camp that they can terrorize the majority.
That's where it comes from.
Ultimately, however, it is always based on ignorance of basic biological facts.
I've described all of this in this book - I'll say it again because I have to, otherwise I'll face criminal charges.
Even political organizations, WHO-dependents, they confuse sex and gender.
They do not know that the primary sexual organs are the testis in the male case, i.e. the testicles, and the
ovaries in the female case, i.e. that the copulatory organs penis/vagina are secondary formations.
Men and women are defined by the different sex cells or gametes, which are again formed in the gonads.
Even this knowledge, which is 200 years old, has simply been lost.
And biology is being systematically discredited and pushed back.
And biologists, well, if you are a biologist and you speak in public like I do, you have one foot in prison.
It has already come that far.
That's how much power these pseudo-scientific, in my opinion quasi-religious, ideologues already have.
We've come that far, yes.
You briefly mentioned the term "gender dysphoria" earlier.
Can you explain it again for our viewers? What is that?
You also write a lot about this in your book.
You discuss this in the context of the rock musician Mick Jagger.
How did you come up with this comparison?
Well, first of all, I studied musicology myself and have been playing the piano since I was a child, and that is music too.
But I'm not a Mick Jagger and Rolling Stones fan.
But: Mick Jagger is a man who found his way in music at 18, but also in his private life.
And he always said: I love young women.
And so he has eight children with five partners.
At 80, he still stands by and says: That's just the way I am.
To make this clear, I coined the term gender euphoria.
It didn't exist before, it's only in the book: gender euphoria, i.e. when a man or a woman
completely agrees with being a man or a woman.
At 80, Mick Jagger still feels very much at home as a man - and so do his partners.
If you look at the Mick Jagger environment, they're all some kind of models, so the gender euphoria.
And once we have defined the term "gender euphoria", we can then wonderfully separate out the dysphoria.
Gender dysphoria is an extreme dissatisfaction with one's biological sex.
And now there is something very important to note here: There is a very real, clinically defined percentage of less
than 0.1 % - i.e. more like 0.01 % of all people in Western cultures - who suffer from genuine gender dysphoria.
I had several discussions with the most famous trans XY person at Stanford University.
Ms. Lily Zheng, an XY man.
And Lily Zheng - you can find her everywhere on the internet - she also appears in the media. Even in early childhood,
well before puberty, she felt she was in the wrong body and then developed very serious psychological problems.
So I'm convinced that this person, a trans XY person, suffers from real gender dysphoria, I can't explain it any other way.
But there is a cult of fashion on top of that.
You see, until 2010 it was well below 0.1%.
Now in the USA we have 0.5% of children and young people who feel they are living in the wrong body.
But there is a parents' initiative in the USA, there are 1,700 pairs of parents who have boys or a girl who suffers from this.
And these parents have formed a group that works together with psychologists - I know some of the psychologists personally
- and it's quite clear that this fashion cult, transgender fashion cult, is something we have to fight through education.
How can you tell the difference? Quite simply!
Genuine gender dysphoria occurs long before puberty.
So if a boy only plays with dolls from the age of three or four and acts very feminine, this could be a sign.
But if a boy or girl develops normally up to puberty and then suddenly feels like they have the wrong body, this is a
very strong sign of rapid-onset gender dysphoria, or ROGD, and the only way to counteract this is through education.
We have to prevent this at all costs, this chemical castration, i.e. giving puberty blockers and other things
up to and including mastectomy, all this must be stopped.
Trump is doing it quite right.
Nevertheless, we have to say: there is a small percentage, and these people deserve our protection.
You can't say that all transgender people are cheaters, that's completely wrong. There is a small percentage.
Good, but this small percentage, I think, is not the problem we have socially right now.
As you mentioned, the cult of fashion is the problem.
We are actively encouraging young people to get to grips with this.
Young people are also given a lot of suggestions, as you mentioned.
You have now also mentioned chemical castration.
I would like to come to something else that you describe in the book.
Very interesting, Kla.TV has already reported on it.
John Money has started an experiment involving the Reimer twins.
This was not a chemical castration, this was a surgical castration of a two-year-old.
What do you think of this experiment?
Perhaps you could also use this experiment to explain: What does this have to do with gender euphoria/dysphoria?
So, to become authentic again now:
I spoke to Professor Milton Diamond ... he died recently. He was a biology professor who fought John Money for decades, argued
against him, it went all the way to court cases, and I have a lot of insider information, which I have also presented in the book.
So here's the thing: John Money was a restless, extremely self-centered, childless, probably bisexual
man - on the other hand, a highly intelligent man.
He has worked as a sexologist all his life.
He came up with the term sexologist himself, sounds good.
When the situation arose in 1965, when the tiny penis of a twin brother was destroyed during a
circumcision with an electrocautery device, it was simply gone.
After that, the parents were desperate. Then they heard about the famous Professor John Money on TV
and turned to him. And he said: "Yes, wonderful!
Now we castrate the boy, we remove the primary sexual organs testis, the testicles. Then we have a control,
the rhymer brother one, the boy, and then we have the castrate, and we raise him as a girl."
And that didn't work at all.
You can emphasize the gender euphoria that I have so beautifully portrayed in Mick Jagger.
The neuter has always defined himself as a boy.
He was shouting in a girl's dress: I am a boy!
Even though he was neutered.
Where does it come from? It's quite clear that it comes from the fact that humans and other
mammals only develop into females before birth.
When the Y chromosome becomes active, the SRY master control gene on the Y chromosome, after the 6th week of pregnancy, the
embryo, which is primarily female, is actively masculinized.
Later, the brain, the female brain, is actively masculinized.
That was already the case with the Reimer brother, who was already thoroughly masculinized,
although he was castrated at the age of two.
You can see that wonderfully there.
And in the case of real XY transgender people, men who feel like women like Lily Zheng, the secondary masculinization
of the primarily female brain has not worked and this can be wonderfully demonstrated by the sex-brain index.
So we know a lot about these cases in biology.
To finish with Reimer: Both brothers took their own lives, quite tragically.
The castrato - John Money said: "Wonderful, when you reach puberty, we'll implant a
plastic vagina and then you can live as a woman.
You don't need children anyway." He was childless himself.
Children don't play a role in this world of gender ideologues anyway, at most to abuse them.
There are no children anywhere, or perhaps barely on the margins.
Well, and then it went so far when the famous Professor Money came to talk to the parents. One time, when Reimer was about 8,
the brothers at the hospital - they were at Johns Hopkins University - climbed onto the roof and said:
"We'll jump down there and kill ourselves if we have to see that monster John Money again!"
It was terrible! It was terrible!
And the neuter was then bullied, of course.
So it was psychological terror.
He later underwent surgery and got married, adopted children, but his wife left him, so he committed suicide at the age of 39.
Very, very cruel.
Now comes the conclusion.
John Money rejected criticism of the failed experiment until his death.
He said: Everything worked!
He simply ignored it.
And he was such a testosterone-driven power man, it has to be said, that he simply shouted down the experts at conferences,
probably slapped Milton Diamond in the face at a conference, that this has somehow carried through to the present day. Until today.
And so the gender ideology, which had already been refuted in the 1960s, was able to prevail, i.e. in
principle we can change our psychosocial perceived gender.
Self-determination law, a complete joke yes. That's just how it has been preserved.
And the biologists like me, who were doing educational work, they were just, well, fought against legally, etc.
So, to summarize, because we must slowly come to the end, we can say that ... you call it the cult of fashion, the cult of fashion
of gender ideology, as we experience it today, as we experience it in schools, in universities, is actually clearly
refuted, but has nevertheless found influence in our society - and, as you say, must be actively combated.
It's just a kind of substitute religion.
That is quite clear. It's practically a cult.
You can put that on a par with climate change ideology.
The climate has always changed, but the CO² hypothesis, i.e. that carbon dioxide was the main cause of the
minimal documented global warming, has never been proven.
There is no continuous positive correlation between CO² level and mean earth temperature.
So anyone who has a publication and sends it to me, I would love to read it. I don't know a single one, I
know ... have read hundreds. It's a cult of fashion.
So, the transgender ideology is like the Kilmawandel mania, as well as the corona affair - that would be another
topic - these are fads, and the few independent scientists that still exist have to "shoot against" them.
And I'm glad that President Trump, often somewhat rudely, not always quite right, but in principle just bringing an agenda
of reason into the discussion now and saying with a steam hammer: There are two genders in America. Which is also true.
Then thank you very much for your time ...
Thank you very much!
... and we wish you every success with your book.
Thank you!
All sources and evidence for Prof. Dr. Kutschera's statements can be found in detail in his latest book and explained with
graphics: "U. Kutschera: Vergewaltigung der Natur. The green rainbow agenda is destroying our society.
Publisher Tredition, Hamburg, 2024" http://www.evolutionsbiologen.de/media/files/flyer.pdf
For the thesis that the transgender movement is simply a fashion cult, we recommend the following program as a
supplement to this interview: The sinister agenda behind transgender ideology https://www.kla.tv/29454