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Litsebi tsa tsa thobalano, barupeli ba tsa thobalano, ho se
phutholohe ka bong – ke mohopolo o mocha? Litsebi tse ncha?

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Ntshetsopele e nngwe ya botho? Kapa tshenyo ya bona?!

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Moeti oa rona puisanong ea kajeno o tla fana ka
maikutlo mabapi le litaba tsena tse tsosang khang.

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O ithutetse baeloji, khemistri le thuto ea 'mino, 'me
esale e le moprofesa Univesithing ea Kassel ka lilemo tse 29.

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Ho tloha ka 2007, o ntse a sebetsa e le
rasaense oa morero Stanford le San Francisco.

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Ka lingoliloeng tsa mahlale tse ka bang 350 le libuka tse 17
tsa boitsebelo, o thathamisitsoe sehlopheng se phahameng ka

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ho fetisisa sa bo-ramahlale bohle ba tlhaho ho Research Gate.

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O hohela tlhokomelo ea boralitaba ka nyatso ea hae mabapi le
mehato ea ho laola seoa sa coronavirus, ho

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futhumala ha lefatše ho bakoang ke batho ka
khabone daeokhsaete, le khopolo-taba ea bong.

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Moeti oa kajeno ho Kla.TV: setsebi sa baeloji ea
khōlo ea liphedi Moprofesa Ngaka Ulrich Kutschera.

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Rea le amohela, bashebelli ba ratehang, le
kamohelo e mofuthu haholo ho Moprofesa Dr Kutschera.

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Ke leboha haholo ka ho etsa leeto le ho
ba teng bakeng sa puisano mona kajeno.

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Kea leboha ka memo ea lona e mosa.

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Moprofesa Kutschera, mantsoe a tumileng a kang phapano,
transgender le LGBTQ joale ke karolo ea bohlokoa ea puo ea

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letsatsi le letsatsi, 'me libekeng tse
'maloa tse fetileng, Mopresidente oa US, Trump, o

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itse o ananela feela mefuta e 'meli ea bong.

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Ho bile le letsholo la dikgetho le Jeremane.

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Friedrich Merz o itse o utlwisisa hore
Trump o ananela feela bong ba batho ba babedi.

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Sena se ile sa baka moferefere o moholo ho tsoa
mokhatlong oa basodoma le basali ba ratanang le ba bang ba CSU.

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Joaloka setsebi sa baeloji ea khōlo ea liphedi,
karabelo ea hau ke efe mabapi le lipolelo tse joalo?

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E, hoo hoa makatsa haholo ebile ke letšoao la ho theoha ha thuto
ea rona ka kakaretso. Carl von Linné, setsebi sa

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baeloji sa bohlokoa haholo, o ile a hlahisa lentsoe
"sexus = bong ba baeloji" lingoliloeng ho tloha ka 1735.

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Mme ho tloha ka 1735, rona baithuti ba baeloji re tsebile hore
ditshedi tsohle tse kileng tsa ithutwa ho fihlela jwale (ntle le

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dibaktheria) di na le bong bo pedi, ke hore, bong =
bong ba baeloji, mme sena se hlalositswe thutong ya

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baeloji ya tswammano ho tloha ka Darwin ka tsela e latelang:

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Banna (e ka ba li-chimpanzee, empa hape e ka ba batho) ba
hlalosoa e le bahlahisi ba peo ea botona, ke hore, batho ba

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hlahisang lisele tse ngata tse nyane tsa thobalano = li-gamete.

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Basadi ba hlaloswa e le bafani ba disele
tsa mahe ba nang le mosebetsi wa ho ikatisa.

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Mme ho feta 99.9% ya tswalo yohle e phelang, ho
diphologolo le ho batho, e tswela pele ka tsela eo

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re bang le karolo e fetang 99% ya banna le basadi.

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Ha ho setsebi sa baeloji se fumaneng sebopeho sa
boraro sa sperme lilemong tse 300 tse fetileng.

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Ha e le hantle ke motsoako oa lehe le peo ea botona.

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Lisele tse kholo tsa mahe tse ruileng limatlafatsi, tse boetse li
na le li-mitochondria, le lisele tse nyenyane

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tsa peo. Re bitsa ketsahalo ena anisogamy = ho
se lekane ha mefuta ea lisele tsa ho ikatisa.

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Mme ha motho a bua ka thobalano, ntho ya pele e
tlang kelellong ke tlhaloso ya monna le mosadi.

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Jwale ntlha ya bobedi ke ena: thutong ya diphedi, ka
dilemo tse ka bang 200, re ntse re utlwisisa thobalano e le

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tshebetso ya peo, e leng kopano ya lehe le peo ya bonna.

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Liketsahalo tsa thobalano, ke hore liketsahalo tsa lerato, li ka
lebisa tlhaholetsehong ea ka hare (hona joale ke bua

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ka batho ka ho khetheha), empa ha se kamehla ho
leng joalo. Mme ke mona moo tsohle li ferekanyang teng.

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Batho ba ferekanya thobalano (e leng bong ba
'mele/pepeliso) le maikutlo a lerato a tsosang,

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'me sena se baka, nka re, moferefere o sa feleng.

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Empa re lula re bolelloa, ka mokhoa oa phatlalatso ea
lipolotiki, hore ho na le mefuta ea bong e fetang e 'meli.

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Hantle, hoo ho batla ho lekana le ho re Lefatshe le bataletse.

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Ha ho na bopaki le bo bong bakeng sa qoso ea hore ho na
le mefuta ea bong e fetang e 'meli – mona re bua ka bong.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, ho na le dikgatiso tsa
mahlale tse dikete tse paka hore ho na le bong bo pedi.

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Nna ka bonna ke kentse letsoho ka dipampiri tse ngata tsa tsena.

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Kahoo ke tumela-hōle ea pele ho
Darwin feela, ha ho letho ho feta moo.

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Mme u nahana hore ho fihlile joang boemong bona, hore mohopolo o
ntseng o fumana tšehetso likolong o phatlalatsoe ka bophara

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mecheng ea litaba? Sena se ka fumana sebaka joang sechabeng sa
rona ha mang kapa mang ea kileng a ela hloko

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le hanyenyane ka phaposing ea thuto ea
baeloji a tseba hore ho na le bong bo peli feela?

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Kahoo, re hloka ho hlalosa lentsoe la bobeli.

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Lekala = bong ba 'mele, lekala = peo, re hlakisitse.

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Empa jwale ho na le lentswe bong.

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Ke tlameha ho hlakisa sena haholo-holo.

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Oskar Hertwig – ha ho na motho ea mo tsebang, empa e
ne e le setsebi sa baeloji sa bohlokoa haholo-holo.

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O ile a sibolla ka lekgetlo la pele ketso ya
ho nontsha mahe a dikgofa tsa lewatle ka 1780

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– hore peo ya botona e kopana le sele ya lehe.

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O qapile lentsoe 'gender' ka moelelo oa khōlo
ea liphoofolo tsa tonakhōle le tsa tšehali.

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Mme mohopolo wa bong o bapala karolo e
kgolo dipatlisisong tsa kgolo ya diphedi.

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Ho na le libuka ka thobalano le
bong ho limela tse thunyang, mohlala.

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Limela tse thunyang li ka sebetsa e le tsa
bonna le tsa botšehali – tlhahiso ea phofo ea

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lipalesa, phetiso ea eona le ho nontša ovary.

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Kahoo, re na le khopolo ea bong thutong ea bophelo, e
leng kholo ea liphoofolo tsa tonakholo le tsa tšehali.

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Leha ho le jwalo, ka 1955, John Money, setsebi sa
kelello seo re ka buang ka yena ka botlalo

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hamorao, o ile a qapa lentswe le letjha bakeng sa bong.

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Mme seo se bolela bong ba motho kelellong le
setjhabeng, ke hore, boitsebahatso ba hae

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boo a bo bonang e le la monna kapa la mosadi.

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Mme jwale ke tlameha ho nyatsa Mopresidente
Trump, ya ferekantseng thobalano le bong.

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Kahoo, joale ho tla polelo ea bohlokoa. Ho feta 99% ea banna le
basali bohle, bong (biological gender), e leng ho ba teng ha

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litho tsa mantlha tsa thobalano, li-ovary ho basali, li-testicle
ho banna, tseo e leng litho tsa mantlha tsa

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thobalano 'me ka tlhaho li hlahisa peo ea botona,
mahe le lihormone tsa thobalano, li tsamaellana.

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Ka mantsoe a mang, monna ea tloaelehileng le mosali ea
tloaelehileng – maemong a 99.9% a liketsahalo tsohle, kapa 999 ho

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ba 1,000 – ba kena tlas'a sena; leha ho le joalo, ho
na le palo e nyenyane haholo, e ka tlase ho 0.1%,

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e nang le seo ho thoeng ke ho se phutholohe ka bong.

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Empa jwale o botsitse: Ke hobaneng ha
mohopolo ona o bile le tshusumetso e kalo?

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Lebaka ke lena: John Money e ne e le setsebi sa kelello se neng
se batla botumo se tswang New Zealand – hape, e le motho ya

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bohlale haholo – ya ileng a fallela United States mme a kenya
thesis ya hae ya bongaka Univesithing ya Harvard ka 1955, eo ho

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yona a neng a hlalosa masea a intersex – lesea le le leng ho a
mang a 3,000 ke la intersex, le sa bonahaleng ka ho hlaka e le la

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senna kapa sa sesadi – banna/basali, hangata e itlhahela hamorao
– o ne a ba bitsa li-hermaphrodite, e leng phoso

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– mme a qapa mohopolo o neng o fana ka maikutlo a
hore boitsebahatso ba banna le basali bo fetoha.

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Ho na le masea a intersex moo ho sa
nepahalang hantle. Empa ke le leng feela ho ba 3,000.

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Kahoo esale a hlahisa lintlha ka tsela e fosahetseng, mme ke eona
nyatso e kholo eo nka ratang ho e pheta hape mona

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ka ho hlaka: maemong a fetang 99%, ha ho na
bothata ho hang, kaha thobalano le bong lia tsamaellana.

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Empa ho na le palo e nyenyane haholo, e ka tlase ho 0.1%,
moo monna oa 'mele, motho oa XY, a nahanang joaloka

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mosali ka kelellong ea hae. Sena se fumaneha ka seoelo haholo.

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Ho latela motheo ona, ho ile ha thehoa mohopolo o bohlokoa oa
hore kaofela ha rona re ka fetola bong ba rona ka tsela

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e itseng (hobane ho na le masea a 'intersex', ke
hore, batho ba 'transsexual' ba fumaneha ka seoelo haholo).

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Leha ho le jwalo, le kgethollo eo ke seng ke
e hlakisitse mona ha e kenngwe tshebetsong.

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Ke moferefere o feletseng, o etsahalang
haholo-holo boemong ba pele ho kereche. Hobaneng?

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Bana ba ka kgetholla bashanyana le banana ka tlhaho.

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Ke tlhaho ea tlhaho.

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Mme bana ba tseba hore 99.9% ya bana bohle ba bang ke bashanyana
kapa banana. Hore ho na le mehlala ena e sa tlwaelehang,

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ho lokile, e teng hohle. Mekgwa e sa tlwaelehang e teng hohle.

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Ka mantsoe a mang, ke mohopolo o ipatetsang nnete
ea hore ke batho ba fokolang haholo feela ba

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amehang ke ho se tsamaisane ha tsa botona le tsa bong.

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Karabo ke eo.

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Empa John Money ha a sa tsebahala
haholo mona Jeremane hona joale.

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Ehlile baa e pata.

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Empa ho ka etsahala joang, ha o re joale ho latela lipalo,
hore sehlotšoana se senyenyane hakana, nka re bongata ba se

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ntseng se tumme sechabeng sa rona hajoale, se batla se re tšosa?

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Ha o sa dumellwa le ho bolela hore ho na le bong ba babedi feela.

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E, lentsoe "ho tšosetsoa" le nepahetse hantle.

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Nka tshehetsa ka botlalo sohle seo o se buang.

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Joale, hoo ho etsahetse jwang?

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Lebaka le leng la sena ke hore naheng ea Jeremane – le naheng ea
US hape, empa joale Trump o bua ka ho otloloha ebile o laetse –

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ho hlakile hore lihlopha tse fokolang li na
le tšehetso e kholo ho tsoa ho mokha oa

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ma-lefubelu a botala hoo li ka tšosang bongata.

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Ke moo e tswang teng.

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Leha ho le jwalo, qetellong, e dula e thehilwe
ho ho se tsebe dintlha tsa motheo tsa baeloji.

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Ke hlalositse tsohle bukeng ena – ke bua hape
hobane ke tlamehile, ho seng jwalo ke tla qoswa.

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Le mekhatlo ea lipolotiki, le ba hloohong
ba WHO, ba ferekanya thobalano le bong.

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Ha ba tsebe hore litho tsa mantlha tsa thobalano ke matsoele ho
banna le makoa ho basali, le hore litho tsa ho kopanela liphate,

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e leng leqheka le botšehali, ke likarolo tse hlahang ka morao.

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Banna le basali ba hlalosoa ke lisele tse fapaneng tsa
thobalano kapa li-gamete, tse hlahisoang ka har'a li-gonad.

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Le tsebo ena, e nang le lilemo tse 200, e mpa feela e lahlehetse.

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Mme thuto ya bophelo e mpa e ntse e nyenyefatswa ka
mokgwa o hlophisehileng mme e sutumelletswa morao.

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Mme bo-ramahlale ba bophelo, haeba u
ramahlale oa bophelo 'me u bua phatlalatsa joaloka

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'na, u se u le mothating oa ho kena chankaneng.

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Ho se ho fihlilwe mona.

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Ke hakaalo matla ao ba nang le ona, baqapi
bana ba mehopolo ea bohata ba saense, eo ka

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pono ea ka e batlang e tšoana le bolumeli.

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E se e fihlile hole joalo, e.

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U boletse ka bokhutšoanyane ka lentsoe "gender dysphoria" pejana.

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Na o ka hlalosa hape bakeng sa bashebelli ba rona: Ke eng?

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U boetse u ngola haholo ka sena bukeng ea hau.

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Ba buisana ka sena mabapi le
sebini sa 'mino oa rock, Mick Jagger.

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U fihlile jwang papising ena?

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Hantle, pele ho tsohle, ke ithutetse thuto ea 'mino ka bonna 'me
esale ke letsa piano ho tloha bongoaneng, 'me le eona ke 'mino.

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Empa ha ke morati wa Mick Jagger le Rolling Stones.

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Empa Mick Jagger ke monna ya ileng a fumana tsela ya hae mminong
a le dilemo di 18, mme hape le bophelong ba hae ba lekunutu.

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Mme o ne a dula a re: Ke rata basadi ba batjha.

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Ka hona o na le bana ba robeli le balekane ba bahlano.

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O ntse a eme leha a le lilemo li
80 mme o re: Ke tshwana le jwalo.

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Ho hlakisa sena, ke qapile lentsoe 'thabo e fetisisang ea bong'.

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E ne e le sieo pele, e fumaneha feela ka bukeng: thabo e
fetisisang ea bong, ke hore, ha monna kapa mosali a iketlile

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ka ho feletseng le ho amohela hore ke monna kapa mosali.

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Ha a le lilemo li 80, Mick Jagger o ntse a
ikutloa a phutholohile hantle e le monna – 'me le

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balekane ba hae ba ikutloa ka tsela e tšoanang.

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Ha o sheba metswalle ya Mick Jagger, kaofela ke
dimotlelara, kahoo ke thabo e fetisisang ya bong.

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Mme hang ha re se re hlalositse lentswe la thabo ya
bong, re ka arola ho se phutholohe ha bong habonolo.

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Gender dysphoria e bolela ho se
kgotsofale ho feteletseng ka bong ba motho.

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Mme jwale ho na le ntho ya bohlokwa haholo eo re lokelang ho e
hlokomela mona: ho na le peresente e totobetseng, e hlalositsweng

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ke saense, e ka tlase ho 0.1 – kapa hantle-ntle 0.01%
– ya batho bohle mekgweng ya Bophirimela ba nang le

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bothata ba nnete ba ho se phutholohe ka bong ba bona.

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Ke bile le dipuisano tse mmalwa le motho ya tummeng ka ho
fetisisa ya fetotseng bong ya XY Univesithing ya Stanford.

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Mofumahatsana Lily Zheng, monna oa XY.

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Mme Lily Zheng – o ka mo fumana hohle inthaneteng – le yena o
hlaha mecheng ya phatlalatso. Ho tloha bonyaneng, nako e telele

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pele a fihla dilemong tsa botjha, o ile a utlwa eka o mmeleng o
fosahetseng mme yaba o ba le mathata a tebileng haholo a kelello.

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Kahoo ke kgodisehile hore motho enwa, motho wa
trans-XY, o na le bothata ba nnete ba ho se phutholohe ka

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bong ba hae; ha ke kgone ho e hlalosa ka tsela e nngwe.

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Ka hodimo ho moo, leha ho le jwalo, ho na le
sehlopha se tjhesehelang feshene ka tsela e feteletseng.

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Bona, ho fihlela ka 2010 e ne e le ka tlase haholo ho 0.1%.

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Hona joale re na le 0.5% ea bana le bacha ba lilemong tsa bocha
naheng ea USA ba ikutloang eka ba phela 'meleng o fosahetseng.

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Leha ho le jwalo, ho na le boikitlaetso ba batswadi
naheng ya USA bo kenyeletsang banyalani ba 1,700 ba

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nang le mora kapa moradi ya tshwenngwang ke boemo bona.

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Mme batswadi bana ba thehile sehlopha se sebetsang le ditsebi tsa
kelello – ke tseba tse ding tsa ditsebi tsena tsa kelello ka

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bonna – mme ho hlakile haholo hore re tlameha ho
lwantsha sehlopha sena sa borapedi ba feshene, sehlopha sena sa

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borapedi ba feshene ya batho ba fetolang bong, ka thuto.

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O ka tseba phapang joang? Ho bonolo!

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Ho se phutholohe 'meleng ka lebaka la bong ho 'nete
ho hlaha nako e telele pele ho ho qaleha ho ba mocha.

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Kahoo haeba moshanyana ho tloha dilemong tse tharo
kapa tse nne a bapala feela ka dipopi mme a

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itshwara ka mokgwa wa basadi haholo, sena e ka ba sesupo.

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Leha ho le jwalo, haeba moshanyana kapa ngwanana a hola ka mokgwa
o tlwaelehileng ho fihlela dilemong tsa botjha mme ka

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tshohanyetso le ka mokgwa o sa lebelloang a ikutlwa a le mmeleng
o fosahetseng, sena ke sesupo se matla haholo sa

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ho ferekana ha bong ho qadileng ka potlako, kapa
ROGD. Tshebetso ena e ka thibelwa feela ka thuto.

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Re tlameha ho thibela sena ka hohlehohle: ho tima thobalano ka
lik'hemik'hale, ke hore, ho fana ka meriana e thibelang

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ho tsofala thobalong le lintho tse ling, ho kenyeletsa le
ho khaoloa ha matsoele. Sena sohle se tlameha ho emisoa.

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Trump o etsa hantle feela.

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Leha ho le jwalo, re tlameha hape ho bolela hore ho na le
karolo e nyane ya batho ba lokelang tshireletso ya rona.

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O ke ke wa re batho bohle ba transgender ke baferefere;
hoo ke phoso e feletseng. Ho na le palo e nyane feela.

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Hantle, empa ha ke nahane hore karolo ena e nyane
ke bothata boo re nang le bona sechabeng hajoale.

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U boletse: borapedi ba feshene ke bothata.

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Hona jwale ho ntse ho etswa boikitlaetso ba ho
kgothaletsa batjha hore ba kenye letsoho tabeng ena.

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Batjha le bona ba fuwa ditlhahiso
tse ngata, jwalo ka ha o boletse.

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Jwale o boetse o buile ka ho kgaola thobalano ka dikhemikhale.

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Nka rata ho kgutlela ho ntho eo o e hlalosang bukeng.

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Ho a khahla haholo, Kla.TV e se e tlalehile ka sena.

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John Money o ile a qala teko e neng
e akarelletsa mahahapa a ha Reimer.

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Hona e ne e se ho tlosoa matla ka lik'hemik'hale, e ne e
le ho tlosoa matla ka ho buuoa ha ngoana ea lilemo li peli.

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U nahana'ng ka teko ena?

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Mohlomong o ka hlalosa, o sebedisa teko ena e le mohlala:
Sena se amana jwang le thabo/ho se phutholohe ka lebaka la bong?

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Kahoo, ho kgutlela ho ba wa nnete:

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Ke buile le Moprofesa Milton Diamond... o sa tsoa hlokahala. E ne
e le moprofesa oa baeloji ea ileng a loantša John Money ka lilemo

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tse mashome, a phephetsa maikutlo a hae, a ba a isa
taba lekhotleng, 'me ke na le lintlha tse ngata tsa ka

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hare ka taba eo, tseo le tsona ke li kenyelitseng bukeng.

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Taba ke ena: John Money e ne e le monna ea neng a batla tlotla,
ea nahanelang eena feela haholo, ea se nang bana, mohlomong a

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rata batho ba bong bo fapaneng – empa hape a le bohlale haholo.

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O sebeditse e le setsebi sa tsa thobalano bophelo bohle ba hae.

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O ile a iqapela lentswe sexologist; le utlwahala le le letle.

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Eaba, ka 1965, ho bile le ketsahalo eo ho yona lenyora le
lenyenyane la moena wa mofuthu le ileng la senngwa nakong ya

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kutu ka sesebediswa sa motlakase – le ne le nyametse feela.

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Kamora moo, batsoali ba ne ba ferekane haholo. Eaba ba
utlwa ka Moprofesa ya tummeng John Money thelevisheneng

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mme ba ikopanya le yena. Mme a re, "E, ho lokile haholo!"

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Joale re buola moshanyana, re tlosa litho tsa hae tsa mantlha tsa
thobalano, e leng matsoele. Ebe re na le mohlala o

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laolang, Moena Reimer oa Pele, moshanyana, ebe re
na le ea buotsoeng, 'me re mo holisa e le ngoanana.

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Mme seo ha se a ka sa sebetsa ho hang.

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Mona ba ka boela ba hatella ka ho hlaka thabo e feteletseng
ea bong eo ke e hlalositseng ka bokhabane ho Mick Jagger.

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Castrato o ne a dula a itlhalosa e le moshanyana.

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O ne a hoeletsa a apere mose oa ngoanana: Ke moshanyana!

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Leha a ile a khaolwa.

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E tsoa kae? Ho hlakile hantle hore sena se bakoa ke
taba ea hore batho le liphoofolo tse ling tse

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anyesang qalong li hola e le tsa mosali pele li tsoaloa.

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Ha chromosome ea Y e qala ho sebetsa, gene e kholo e laolang SRY
e ho chromosome ea Y, kamora beke ea botshelela ea

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bokhachane, embryo, e neng e le ea mosali
haholo-holo, e fetoloa hore e be ea monna ka mafolofolo.

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Hamorao, boko, boo ka tlhaho e leng ba
bosali, bo etswa hore bo be ba bonna ka matla.

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Sena se ne se se se le ntho e tloaelehileng ho moena oa
Reimer, ea neng a se a etselitsoe ho ba monna-monna

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leha a ne a se a tlositsoe metsoanyana a le lilemo li peli.

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O ka bona seo ka ho phethahala moo.

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Mme tabeng ya batho ba nnete ba transgender ba XY, e leng banna
ba ikutlwang jwaloka basadi, jwaloka Lily Zheng, ho ipopa ha

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bobedi ha bong bo botona bokong boo qalong e leng
ba basadi ha ho a sebetsa, mme sena se ka bontshwa

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ka ho hlaka ka ho sebedisa sesupo sa bong le boko.

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Re tseba haholo ka linyeoe tsena tsa baeloji.

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Ho qetela ka Reimer: barab'abo rōna ka bobeli ba
ile ba ipolaea, e leng taba e bohloko haholo-holo.

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Castrato – John Money o ile a re: "Ho babatseha, ha o
fihla dilemong tsa ho ba moholo, re tla o kenya botona ba

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polasetiki mme ka nako eo o ka phela jwalo ka mosadi."

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"Ha o hloke bana leha ho le jwalo." Le yena o ne a se na bana.

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Bana ha ba na karolo ho hang le ho hang
lefatšeng lena la batho ba nang le maikutlo a tiileng

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a bong, ntle le mohlomong hore ba hlekefeloe.

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Bana ha ba hlaha kae kapa kae, kapa
mohlomong ba hlaha hanyenyane feela.

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Hantle, 'me taba e ile ea mpefala hoo ha Moprofesa ea tummeng
John Money a tla ho bua le batsoali. Ketsahalong e 'ngoe, Reimer

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o ne a le lilemo li ka bang 8, 'me banab'abo e ne e le sepetlele
– ba ne ba le Univesithing ea Johns Hopkins – 'me ba

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hloella marulelong 'me ba re, "Re tla itahlela fatše re
ipolaee haeba re ka hlola re bona sebata seo John Money hape!"

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E ne e le mpe haholo! E ne e le mpe haholo!

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Mme castrato eo, e ne e le hore o ne a hloriswa.

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Kahoo e ne e le tšoso ea kelello.

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Hamorao o ile a buuoa ho khutlisa boemo ba hae, a
nyala, a inkela bana, empa joale mosali oa hae le

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eena a mo tlohela, kahoo a ithunya a le lilemo li 39.

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Sehlōhō haholo-holo.

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Jwale ke qetello.

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Ho fihlela lefung la hae, John Money o ile
a hana nyatso mabapi le teko e hlolehileng.

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O itse: Tsohle di sebeditse!

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O ile a mpa a se hlokomela.

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Mme e ne e le monna ya matla a fetisisang a tsheheditsweng ke
bong, ho lokela ho bolelwe, hoo a neng a mpa a hoeletsa ho

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kgutsisa ditsebi dikopanong, mme ho bonahala a ile a phaphatsa
Milton Diamond kopanong e nngwe, e leng ntho e sa tswang ho dula

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e le kelellong tsa batho ho fihlela kajeno. Ho fihlela kajeno.

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Ka hona, kgopolo ya bong e neng e se e hanetswe ka bo-1960 e
ile ya kgona ho amoheleha, e leng hore, ka motheo, re ka fetola

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boitsebahatso ba rona ba bong bo amanang le kelello le setjhaba.

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Molao oa Boikemelo, ke motlae feela, e. Ho bile joalo kamehla.

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Mme bo-ramahlale ba bophelo ba kang nna, ba neng ba le mosebetsing
wa thuto, re ile ra loantshana le bona ka molao, jwalo-jwalo.

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Kahoo, ho akaretsa, hobane re tlameha ho qetela, re ka re ... Le
e bitsa sekhobo sa feshene, sekhobo sa feshene sa mohopolo oa

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bong, kamoo re se iponang kateng kajeno, kamoo re se iponang
kateng likolong, liunivesithing, ha e le hantle se khalemetsoe

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ka ho hlaka, empa se fumane tšusumetso sechabeng sa rona – 'me,
joalo ka ha le bolela, se tlameha ho loantsoa ka mafolofolo.

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Ke mofuta feela oa bolumeli ba sebaka.

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Hoo ho hlakile haholo. Ha e le hantle ke
sehlopha sa borapedi bo sa tlwaelehang.

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O ka e bapisa le kgopolo ya phetoho ya tlelaemete.

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Tlelaemete esale e fetoha, empa khopolo-taba ea CO², e leng
hore khabone daeokhase e bile sesosa se seholo sa ho futhumala

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ho fokolang ha lefats'e ho tlalehiloeng, ha e so ka e pakoa.

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Ha ho na kamano e tsitsitseng e bontšang
hore maemo a CO² le mocheso o karolelano oa

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lefatše li ea eketseha ka nako e le 'ngoe.

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Kahoo mang kapa mang ea nang le khatiso 'me a e romella ho
'na, nka thabela ho e bala. Ha ke tsebe le e le 'ngoe, kea

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tseba... ke balile makholo. Ke sehlopha se chesehang sa feshene.

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Kahoo, mohopolo oa transgender o tšoana le bohlanya ba phetoho ea
tlelaemete, joalo ka taba ea coronavirus – eo e ka bang taba e

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'ngoe – tsena ke mekhoa ea nakoana, 'me bo-ramahlale ba seng
bakae ba ikemetseng ba ntseng ba le teng ba tlameha ho "loantša".

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Mme ke thabile hore ebe Mopresidente Trump, eo hangata a buang a
sa potapote, eo e seng kamehla a nepang ka botlalo, empa ka

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molao-motheo a tlisa morero o utlwahalang moqoqong mme a bolela
ka ho totobatsa: Ho na le bong bo pedi Amerika. E leng nnete.

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Kea leboha haholo ka nako ea lona...

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Kea leboha haholo!

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... mme re u lakaletsa katleho e kholo ka buka ea hau.

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Kea leboha!

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Mehloli eohle le bopaki bo amanang le lipolelo tsa Prof. Dr.
Kutschera li hlahisitsoe ka botlalo 'me li bontšitsoe ka

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litšoantšo bukeng ea hae ea morao-rao: "U. Kutschera: Tlhaselo ea
Tlhaho. Morero oa Mohloli o Motala o Senya

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Sechaba sa Rona. Mofani: Tredition, Hamburg, 2024"
http://www.evolutionsbiologen.de/media/files/flyer.pdf

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Mabapi le kgopolo ya hore mokgatlo wa batho ba fetotseng bong ke
sehlopha feela sa feshene e sa tlwaelehang, re kgothalletsa

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lenaneo le latelang e le tlatsetso puisong
ena: Morero o kotsi ka morao ho mohopolo oa

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batho ba fetotseng bong https://www.kla.tv/29454

