WEBVTT 00:00.423 --> 00:05.142 Unu niile nwere ụmụaka ma ọ bụ ụmụnwaaka nọ n'afọ akwụkwọ maara nke a: 00:05.142 --> 00:12.033 A na-akwụsị nkuzi mgbe niile, ụmụaka na-alaghachi n'ụlọ site n'ụlọ akwụkwọ tupu oge eruo ma ọ bụ na-enweta nkuzi dochie anya. 00:12.033 --> 00:16.078 Ihe kpatara nke a bụ nnukwu ụkọ ndị nkuzi n'ala niile. 00:16.078 --> 00:23.406 Nke a pụtara na ọtụtụ ụmụaka na-enweta ntuziaka pere mpe iji mụta nke ọma mmemme ọmụmụ e tụrụ anya. 00:23.406 --> 00:32.473 N'ọnọdụ a, isiokwu akwụkwọ akụkọ na-esonụ sitere na Frankfurter Rundschau nke 13 Novemba 2024 bara uru ịmara: 00:32.473 --> 00:37.488 A na-akụzi ihe ọmụmụ gbasara ịgba mgbochi ọrịa ugbu a n'ụlọ akwụkwọ dị na Hesse! 00:37.488 --> 00:42.880 Nke a abụghị nkuzi sayensị ndụ a na-ahụkarị gbasara ịgba mgbochi ọrịa anyị maara. 00:42.880 --> 00:54.075 Kama, ọ metụtara ihe ọmụmụ nkuzi zuru ezu ndị ọzọ gọọmenti steeti chịkọtara gbasara ọrịa na-efe efe na nchebe mgbochi. 00:54.075 --> 01:00.119 Nke a ga-enyere ndị ntorobịa ime mkpebi ha onwe ha doro anya gbasara ịgba ọgwụ mgbochi. 01:00.119 --> 01:04.487 Minista Ahụike Diana Stolz kọwara: 01:04.487 --> 01:11.314 Ndị nkuzi nwere mmekọrịta pụrụ iche nke ntụkwasị obi na ụmụaka na ndị ntorobịa, ma ekele maka ọtụtụ afọ nke ahụmịhe na 01:11.314 --> 01:17.151 nka nkuzi ha, ha nwere ike ịkọwa ọbụna isiokwu mgbagwoju anya n'ụzọ a na-aghọta nke ọma ma kwekọọ na afọ ha. 01:17.151 --> 01:26.182 N'ikpeazụ, nke a pụtara na ndị nkuzi kwesịrị itinye oge mgbakwunye maka nkwadebe na ịkụzi, ma jiri mmekọrịta pụrụ iche nke ntụkwasị 01:26.182 --> 01:30.993 obi ha nwere na ụmụ akwụkwọ kpalie ha ka ha nata mgbochi. 01:30.993 --> 01:37.390 Kedu ka e si eme "mkpebi uche" dịka e kwuru n'elu n'okpuru ọnọdụ ndị a? 01:37.390 --> 01:42.966 A na-egosi ụmụ akwụkwọ naanị uru a na-atụ anya na ọgwụ mgbochi ga-eweta. 01:42.966 --> 01:52.573 Otú ọ dị, onye ọ bụla maara na a pụrụ ime mkpebi uche naanị mgbe e nyochachara uru na ọghọm nke ihe ahụ nke ọma. 01:52.573 --> 01:56.173 Gịnị mere a naghị ele anya n'akụkụ ndị a? 01:56.173 --> 02:01.760 Malite na nchebe dị elu nke a na-asọpụrụ nke ukwuu ma na-ekwukarị banyere ya nke ọgwụ mgbochi ahụ. 02:01.760 --> 02:07.798 Onye sayensị ọgwụ mgbochi kacha mkpa na United States, Dọkịta Stanley Plotkin, na ụmụ akwụkwọ ya kwetara nso nso 02:07.798 --> 02:14.083 a na a ka na-amụghị ọgwụ mgbochi nke ọma – dịka ndị na-akatọ ọgwụ mgbochi si kwuo kemgbe ogologo oge. 02:14.083 --> 02:21.391 Mgbe ọtụtụ iri afọ ha na-ekwupụta na e nyochachara nchekwa ọgwụ mgbochi ahụ nke ọma ma n'ụzọ zuru ezu, ụlọ 02:21.391 --> 02:25.713 akwụkwọ Plotkin akwụsịrị ịkwado ya: nke a abụghị eziokwu! 02:25.713 --> 02:34.473 Ọtụtụ mgbochi ọrịa anaghị enweta nnwale zuru oke ma tupu ma mgbe e kwadoro ha, ka Plotkin na ụmụakwụkwọ ya kwuru. 02:34.473 --> 02:42.100 A kọrọ nke a na edemede aha ya bụ "Nkwado Ego Maka Sayensị Banyere Nchekwa Ọgwụ mgbochi mgbe Enyere 02:42.100 --> 02:47.433 Ikike," nke pụtara na New England Journal of Medicine. 02:47.433 --> 02:54.109 Blog sayensị na ndọrọndọrọ ọchịchị 'tkp' kọwara nke a n'ụzọ zuru ezu n'otu edemede. 02:54.109 --> 03:04.666 Ị na-ede: Ụlọ akwụkwọ Plotkin ekwuola na a naghị enyocha ọgwụ mgbochi ahụ nke ọma – ma tupu ma ọ bụ mgbe e kwadoro ha. 03:04.666 --> 03:13.853 Dịka ọmụmaatụ, ha kwetara na nnwale ọgwụ n'ụlọ ọgwụ tupu nkwenye nwere obere ọnụ ọgụgụ ihe atụ na oge nlekọta sochiri, na 03:13.853 --> 03:19.199 enweghi ego e kenyere maka ọmụmụ nchekwa mgbe e kwadoro ya. 03:19.199 --> 03:24.893 N'ihi nke a, ọ naghị ekwe omume ịmata ma e nwere mmetụta ọ bụla mgbe a nyerela ọgwụ mgbochi. 03:24.893 --> 03:31.486 Nke a pụtara na a na-agwa ọha na e nwere obere ma ọ bụ na e nweghị mmetụta ọjọọ site na ịgba mgbochi. 03:31.486 --> 03:38.685 Otú ọ dị, eziokwu dị iche kpamkpam mgbe ọ bịara n'ịgba mgbochi HPV megide kansa cervix, nke a na-akwalite nke 03:38.685 --> 03:43.430 ukwuu n'etiti ndị ntorobịa, na nso nso a, n'ụlọ akwụkwọ. 03:43.430 --> 03:52.266 Ọtụtụ ọmụmụ gosiri nke ọma na ịgba ọgwụ mgbochi na-akpata mmetụta ndị dị njọ dịka ọrịa autoimmune. 03:52.266 --> 03:58.918 Na mgbakwunye, ndị sonyere na nnyocha Merck mere nwụrụ ugboro abụọ ruo ise karịa ka a 03:58.918 --> 04:04.055 na-ahụkarị maka ìgwè afọ a n'ihe gbasara ọnụego ọnwụ. 04:04.055 --> 04:11.236 Na mgbakwunye, ọnụọgụ ndị ọrịa kansa ọnyá ime n'ọdụ ime nwanyị na-arịwanye elu kama belata mgbe ewebatara mgbochi ahụ. 04:11.236 --> 04:21.055 Na mgbakwunye, ọmụmụ ndị ọzọ egosila nke ọma na e nwekwara ọtụtụ mmetụta ndị ọzọ metụtara ọgwụ mgbochi ndị ọzọ. 04:21.055 --> 04:30.113 Nke a gụnyere ọrịa ọnwụ nwa ozugbo, ọrịa mmepe ụbụrụ, mmeghachi omume n'ahụ n'ihi ihe ndị na-adịghị 04:30.113 --> 04:34.933 mma, ọrịa autoimmune, ịdị mfe inweta ọrịa nje, wdg. 04:34.933 --> 04:42.559 Ị nwere ike ịchọta nkọwa zuru ezu gbasara isiokwu a na mmemme Kla.TV ndị e depụtara na nkwenye. 04:42.559 --> 04:51.684 Andreas Diemer, dọkịta izugbe ma bụrụkwa ọkà mmụta fiziks kwadoro, na-akọwa na nkuzi ya "Kedu ka mgbochi ọrịa si dị irè?" n'ụzọ 04:51.684 --> 04:57.113 onye ọ bụla ga-aghọta ihe ọmụmụ gbasara nchekwa mgbochi ọrịa bụ. 04:57.113 --> 05:01.320 Ebe a ka e kọwara n'ụzọ dị mkpirikpi isi ihe ndị kacha mkpa. 05:01.320 --> 05:04.806 - Enweghị ọmụmụ ọ bụla gbasara nchekwa nke mgbochi ọrịa. 05:04.806 --> 05:08.617 - A naghị eme nnyocha placebo eziokwu. 05:08.617 --> 05:13.570 - Nke a pụtara na enweghị ìgwè e jiri tụnyere nke doro anya gosipụta ma mmetụta ndị ọzọ na-eme na ndị e nyerela 05:13.570 --> 05:16.886 ọgwụ mgbochi na ndị na-enweghị ya, na nke ọ bụla n'ime ha. 05:16.886 --> 05:21.792 - Enweghị ọmụmụ sayensị ziri ezi gbasara irè mgbochi ọrịa. 05:21.792 --> 05:26.740 Nnyocha niile e mere, onye nrụpụta n'onwe ya mere ha niile. 05:26.740 --> 05:31.682 Nke a na-eduga n'ụzọ e si duzie ọmụmụ n'otu ụzọ. 05:31.682 --> 05:40.593 Onye na-emepụta ihe kacha chọọ ka a ree ngwaahịa ya, ya na-ahazi ọmụmụ na nyocha n'ụzọ kwekọrọ iji nweta nsonaazụ a chọrọ. 05:40.593 --> 05:45.014 - Dịka ọmụmaatụ, ndị sonyere na ọmụmụ ndị ahụ bụkarị ụmụ nwoke toro eto nwere ahụ ike, ma ha anaghị 05:45.014 --> 05:48.171 anọchite anya ngwakọta niile nke ndị bi n'ógbè ahụ. 05:48.171 --> 05:53.820 - Na mgbakwunye, a na-enwekarị ndị nnwale ole na ole ma oge ọmụmụ dị mkpụmkpụ nke ukwuu iji 05:53.820 --> 05:57.620 nweta ezigbo onyonyo nke mmetụta ndị na-apụta. 05:57.620 --> 06:01.837 - A naghịkwa enyocha ma ndị e nyere mgbochi ọrịa na-arịa ọrịa obere ugboro ma ọ bụ n'ụzọ na-adịghị njọ, ma ọ bụ 06:01.837 --> 06:04.566 na-anwụ obere ugboro karịa ndị na-enweghị mgbochi ọrịa. 06:04.566 --> 06:08.491 - Ọ bụ naanị ihe gbasara ịtụ ọkwa antibọdị n'ọbara. 06:08.491 --> 06:12.447 Nke a bụ uru a kpebiri n'enweghị usoro. 06:12.447 --> 06:17.259 Mgbe a tụrụ uru a n'ọbara, a na-ekwu na mgbochi ahụ dị irè. 06:17.259 --> 06:21.338 - Enweghịkwa kọmitii ma ọ bụ ndị ọchịchị kwụ ọtọ na-enyocha nsonaazụ. 06:21.338 --> 06:28.072 Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich na RKI, ndị na-ahụ maka ịtụle nsonaazụ ọmụmụ ndị a, na-adịghị arụ ọrụ ha nke ọma n'ọhịa a. 06:28.072 --> 06:31.340 Ndị na-emepụta ihe na-emetụta ha ma na-akwado ha ego n'akụkụ ụfọdụ. 06:31.340 --> 06:37.430 STIKO nwekwara njikọ chiri anya na ụlọ ọrụ ahụ. Ndị otu iri na asaa nke STIKO na-arụ ọrụ na ụlọ ọrụ ọgwụ mgbochi. 06:37.430 --> 06:45.124 Nke ahụ ga-adị ka ịhapụ onye gụsịrị akwụkwọ sekọndrị ka ọ na-enyocha ule ikpeazụ ya. Nsonaazụ ahụ agaghị adị n'etiti. 06:45.124 --> 06:52.093 Okwu ahụ: "Ebe ọtụtụ ndị mmadụ enwetala mgbochi, ọrịa ndị a na-ekwu maka ha na-ebelata" abụghị eziokwu. 06:52.093 --> 06:59.469 Ọ bụ ezie na ewebataghị ụfọdụ mgbochi n'ụwa niile, ọnụọgụ ikpe ọrịa ahụ amalitela ibelata. 06:59.469 --> 07:04.454 Nke a bụ n'ihi na ọnọdụ ndụ, dịka nhicha na nri kwesịrị ekwesị, ka mma. 07:04.454 --> 07:08.083 E nwekwara ọmụmụ ndị na-egosi ihe megidere nke ahụ. 07:08.083 --> 07:14.360 N'ọnọdụ ụfọdụ nke a na-akpọ mgbasa ọrịa, ọtụtụ n'ime ndị metụtara ya ewerela mgbochi. 07:14.360 --> 07:19.126 A naghị atụle otu n'ime akụkụ ndị a n'ime ihe ọmụmụ. 07:19.126 --> 07:27.199 Kama inweta nkuzi zuru oke na kwekọrọ, a na-enye ụmụ akwụkwọ ozi otu akụkụ na a kpụchara tupu. 07:27.199 --> 07:34.377 Ihe ọ bụla na-adịghị adabara akụkọ a na-ekwukarị, n'okwu a akụkọ gbasara ịgba mgbochi, a na-ewepụ ya nanị. 07:34.377 --> 07:42.666 Otu ugboro ọzọ, o doro anya na a na-etinye ụmụ anyị n'okpuru nnukwu mmetụta echiche n'ụlọ akwụkwọ. 07:42.666 --> 07:49.980 Gịnị dị n'azụ nnukwu mgbasa ọgwụ mgbochi a, nke a na-emejuputa n'agbanyeghị nnukwu ụkọ ndị nkuzi n'ụlọ akwụkwọ? 07:49.980 --> 07:54.227 Ịkweta ịnabata ọgwụ mgbochi na-adaba n'ozuzu n'etiti ndị bi. 07:54.227 --> 07:58.603 Ò kwesịrị ka a weghachite nke a ugbu a site n'aka ndị ntorobịa? 07:58.603 --> 08:03.626 Ịgba mgbochi ọrịa bụkwa azụmahịa ruru ijeri pound maka ụlọ ọrụ ọgwụ. 08:03.626 --> 08:08.544 Ebe ọ bụ na ndị dọkịta na-enye mgbochi, ha bụkwa akụkụ nke azụmahịa a. 08:08.544 --> 08:18.644 Dọkịta Paul Thomas, dọkịta ụmụaka zụrụ na Dartmouth, kọrọ nsogbu a na 16 Eprel 2024 n'ajụjụ ọnụ ya na Polly 08:18.644 --> 08:28.085 Tommey dịka akụkụ njem bọs 'Vax-Unvax: The People's Study' nke Children's Health Defense. 08:28.085 --> 08:36.706 Ọ kọwara n'ụzọ zuru ezu otú ndị dọkịta ụmụaka ga-esi rụọ ọrụ iji – n'eziokwu – "nọgide n'ọrụ". 08:36.706 --> 08:41.335 Ụlọọgwụ ụmụaka na-adabere nke ukwuu na ịgba ọgwụ mgbochi. 08:41.335 --> 08:46.313 Ọ bụrụ na dọkịta ejighị ime nke a, ọ na-efu ya ọtụtụ n'ime ego ya. 08:46.313 --> 08:50.478 Dọkịta na-enweta ego site na ọgwụ mgbochi ọ bụla e nyere. 08:50.478 --> 08:55.754 Nke a bụ ihe atụ dị mkpirikpi sitere na ọrụ Dr. Thomas. 08:55.754 --> 09:06.913 Ka anyị kwuo na n'oge nleta ọnwa abụọ, nwa ahụike natara mgbochi DPT – nke pụtara mgbochi atọ, antigens atọ, o 09:06.913 --> 09:17.789 kọwara, tinyere HiB , pneumokokas , hepatitis B , polio, rotavirus – nke ahụ dị ihe dịka £200." 09:17.789 --> 09:23.386 Na mgbakwunye, e nwere bonasi mma jikọtara na ọnụego ịgba mgbochi. 09:23.386 --> 09:31.182 Ụlọ ọrụ mkpuchi ahụike na-enye ndị dọkịta ụmụaka ụgwọ mgbakwunye ma ọ bụrụ na ha rute oke ụfọdụ n'ịgba ọgwụ mgbochi. 09:31.182 --> 09:39.502 Nke a na-adịkarị ihe dị ka pasentị 80 nke ndị ọrịa ndị e kpuchiri mgbochi ha kpamkpam tupu ha agafe afọ abụọ. 09:39.502 --> 09:47.970 Thomas kwuru nke a doro anya: "Nke a pụtara na ụlọ ọgwụ ụmụaka agaghị enwe ike ịnọgide na-arụ ọrụ ma ọ bụrụ na ọ naghị 09:47.970 --> 09:53.166 eme ọtụtụ n'ime mgbochi ọrịa, ma ọ bụrụ na ọ bụghị niile." 09:53.166 --> 10:01.268 Ma echere m na nke ahụ na-akọwa ihe kpatara ha ji mechie anya – ihe kpatara ndị dọkịta ji achọghị ịga ebe ahụ ma lụọ 10:01.268 --> 10:06.440 ọgụ na eziokwu na ọgwụ mgbochi ndị a na-eme nnukwu mmebi. 10:06.440 --> 10:14.099 Onye ọkà mmụta akụkọ ihe mere eme ọgwụ na onye edemede Dr Gerd Reuther nwere nkọwa ndị gbasịrị anya karị gbasara ihe kpatara 10:14.099 --> 10:18.667 a na-akwalite ọgwụ mgbochi nke ukwuu ma na-enye ha mgbe niile. 10:18.667 --> 10:23.158 Anyị na-eweta okwu sitere na ajụjụ ọnụ e mere na Report 24: 10:23.158 --> 10:33.583 N'agbanyeghị ihe niile, ọdịmma uru adịghị ezu mgbe anyị lere atụmatụ a, nke butere ọtụtụ ọrịa na-adịgide adịgide. 10:33.583 --> 10:45.243 Site na nyocha amamihe na omimi sayensị, ọ chọpụtara njikọ ndị na-agafe mkparịta ụka gbasara ọgwụ. Lee ajụjụ ọnụ niile ebe a.