1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,423 2 00:00:00,423 --> 00:00:05,142 Lona bohle ba nang le bana kapa litloholo tse lilemong tsa sekolo, le tseba sena: 3 00:00:05,142 --> 00:00:12,033 Thuto e lula e hlakolwa, bana ba kgutla sekolong kapele kapa ba fumana dithuto tsa moemedi. 4 00:00:12,033 --> 00:00:16,078 Lebaka la sena ke khaello e matla ea matichere naheng ka bophara. 5 00:00:16,078 --> 00:00:23,406 Sena se bolela hore bana ba bangata ba fumana thuto e sa lekanang ho ka tseba ka botlalo kharikhulamo e reriloeng. 6 00:00:23,406 --> 00:00:32,473 Moemong ona, sehlooho se latelang sa koranta se tsoang ho Frankfurter Rundschau ka la 13 Pulungoana 2024 se ea hlokomeleha: 7 00:00:32,473 --> 00:00:37,488 Thuto ea ente e se e ruteloa likolong tsa Hessian! 8 00:00:37,488 --> 00:00:42,880 Ena ha se thuto e tloaelehileng ea baeloji ka liente eo re e tloaetseng. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:49,422 Ho e-na le hoo, e mabapi le lisebelisoa tse ling tsa thuto tse qaqileng tse hlophisitsoeng ke mmuso oa naha 10 00:00:49,422 --> 00:00:54,075 mabapi le taba ea mafu a tšoaetsanoang le tšireletso ea ente. 11 00:00:54,075 --> 00:01:00,119 Sena se lokela ho thusa bacha ho etsa qeto ea bona e nang le tsebo mabapi le ente. 12 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:04,487 Letona la Bophelo bo Botle Diana Stolz o hlalosa: 13 00:01:04,487 --> 00:01:10,976 Barupeli ba na le kamano e kgethehileng ya tshepo le bana le batjha, mme ka lebaka la boiphihlelo ba bona ba dilemo tse ngata 14 00:01:10,976 --> 00:01:15,180 le bokgoni ba ho ruta, ba kgona ho hlalosetsa le ditaba tse rarahaneng ka tsela e 15 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:17,151 utlwisisehang le e loketseng dilemo tsa bona. 16 00:01:17,151 --> 00:01:23,929 Ka bokgutshwanyane, sena se bolela hore matitjhere a lokela ho sebedisa nako e eketsehileng ya boitokisetso le ya ho 17 00:01:23,929 --> 00:01:30,993 ruta, mme a sebedise kamano ya ona e kgethehileng ya tshepo le baithuti ho ba kgothaletsa hore ba entelwe. 18 00:01:30,993 --> 00:01:37,390 Qeto e nahanelang joalokaha ho boletswe ka hodimo e ka etswa jwang tlasa maemo ana? 19 00:01:37,390 --> 00:01:42,966 Baithuti ba bontšoa feela litlamorao tse nkoang li le ntle tsa liente. 20 00:01:42,966 --> 00:01:48,950 Leha ho le jwalo, bohle ba a tseba hore qeto e etswang ka kelello e ka etswa feela kamora 21 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:52,573 ho lekola ka hloko melemo le mathata a taba. 22 00:01:52,573 --> 00:01:56,173 Hobaneng dintlha tse latelang di sa sebetswe? 23 00:01:56,173 --> 00:02:01,760 Ho qala ka polokeho e phahameng haholo ea liente e babatsoang le ho qotsitsoeng haholo. 24 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,688 Setsebi sa bohlokoahali sa liente naheng ea United States, Ngaka Stanley Plotkin, le baithuti ba hae ba sa tsoa lumela hore liente 25 00:02:07,688 --> 00:02:14,083 – joalokaha bahlahlobisisi ba tsona ba 'nile ba bolela nako e telele – ha li e-s'o etsoe liphuputso tse lekaneng ka tsona. 26 00:02:14,083 --> 00:02:21,597 Kamora mashome a dilemo a ho bolela hore polokeho ya mekento e batlisisitswe ka botlalo le ka matla, 27 00:02:21,597 --> 00:02:25,713 Sekolo sa Plotkin jwale se inehetse: ha ho jwalo! 28 00:02:25,713 --> 00:02:34,473 "Liente tse ngata ha li lekoa ka ho lekana ebang ke pele kapa kamora hore li amoheloe," ho rialo Plotkin le baithuti ba hae. 29 00:02:34,473 --> 00:02:42,023 Sena se tlalehiloe sengolong se nang le sehlooho se reng "Funding Science on Vaccine Safety After Licence 30 00:02:42,023 --> 00:02:47,433 Approval," se hlahileng ho New England Journal of Medicine. 31 00:02:47,433 --> 00:02:54,109 Blog ea saense le lipolotiki 'tkp' e hlalosa sena ka botlalo sengoliloeng. 32 00:02:54,109 --> 00:03:04,666 U ngola: Sekolo sa Plotkin se lumetse "hore liente ha li lekoa ka nepo – ebang ke pele kapa kamora hore li amoheloe." 33 00:03:04,666 --> 00:03:11,565 Ka mohlala, ba ile ba lumela hore liteko tsa bongaka pele di amohelwa di na le palo e fokolang ya batho ba lekolwang le nako 34 00:03:11,565 --> 00:03:19,199 e kgutshwane ya ho ba sala morao, le hore ha ho na ditjhelete tse abetsweng dithuto tsa polokeho ka mora hore di amohelwe. 35 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:24,893 Ka lebaka lena, hape ho ke ke ha khoneha ho tseba hore na ho bile le ditlamorao kamorao ho meento. 36 00:03:24,893 --> 00:03:31,486 Sena se bolela hore setjhaba se bolelletswe hore ho na le ditlamorao tse fokolang kapa ha di yo ho hang ho tswa entefong. 37 00:03:31,486 --> 00:03:39,229 Leha ho le jwalo, nnete e fapane haholo ha ho tluwa entong ya HPV kgahlanong le kankere ya molomo wa popelo, e kgothaletswang 38 00:03:39,229 --> 00:03:43,430 haholo hara batjha mme, haufinyane tjena, dikolong. 39 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:52,266 Liphuputso tse 'maloa li bontšitse ka ho hlaka hore ente e baka litla-morao tse tebileng tse kang mafu a autoimmune. 40 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:59,418 Ho feta moo, bankakarolo phuputsong e entsoeng ke Merck ba ile ba shoa ka makhetlo a 2-5 ho feta kamoo ho tloaelehileng 41 00:03:59,418 --> 00:04:04,055 bakeng sa sehlopha sena sa lilemo ho latela sekhahla sa mafu. 42 00:04:04,055 --> 00:04:07,924 Ho feta moo, palo ea batho ba kulang ka mofetše oa molomo oa popelo e ile ea sekamela ho 43 00:04:07,924 --> 00:04:11,236 eketseha ho e-na le ho fokotseha kamora ho qala ente. 44 00:04:11,236 --> 00:04:17,017 Ho feta moo, diphuputso tse ding di bontshitse ka ho hlaka hore ho na le ditlamorao tse 45 00:04:17,017 --> 00:04:21,055 ding tse ngata tse amanang le meento e meng hape. 46 00:04:21,055 --> 00:04:30,283 Tsena di kenyeletsa lefu la tsohanyetso la masea, mathata a kholo ea methapo ea boko, aleji, mafu a autoimmune, 47 00:04:30,283 --> 00:04:34,933 ho ba bonolo ho tšoaetsoa ke mafu a tšoaetsanoang, jj. 48 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:42,559 U ka fumana litlhaloso tse qaqileng haholoanyane mabapi le taba ena mananeong a Kla.TV a boletsoeng karolong ea boitsebiso. 49 00:04:42,559 --> 00:04:49,992 Puong ea hae "Liente li sebetsa hantle hakae?", Andreas Diemer, ngaka e akaretsang le setsebi sa fisiksi se hlomathisitsoeng, 50 00:04:49,992 --> 00:04:57,113 o hlalosa ka tsela eo bohle ba ka e utloisisang hore na liphuputso ka polokeho ea liente li mabapi le eng. 51 00:04:57,113 --> 00:05:01,320 Lintlha tsa bohlokoahali li akaretsitsoe ka bokgutshwanyane ka tlase. 52 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,806 - Ha ho na liphuputso mabapi le polokeho ea liente. 53 00:05:04,806 --> 00:05:08,617 - Ha ho liteko tsa sebele tsa placebo tse ntseng li etsoa. 54 00:05:08,617 --> 00:05:13,646 - Sena se bolela hore ha ho na dihlopha tse bapiswang tse bontshang ka ho hlaka hore na ho na le ditlamorao le hore na 55 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:16,886 ke dife tse hlahang ho batho ba entilweng le ba sa entwang. 56 00:05:16,886 --> 00:05:21,792 Ha ho na liphuputso tse nepahetseng ka saense mabapi le katleho ea liente. 57 00:05:21,792 --> 00:05:26,740 Liphuputso tse entsoeng kaofela li entsoe ke moetsi ka boeena. 58 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:31,682 Sena ka tlhaho se lebisa hore diphuputso di kengwe tsela e itseng. 59 00:05:31,682 --> 00:05:36,620 Moetsi o batla haholo hore sehlahisoa sa hae se rekisoe, mme o hlophisa phuputso le tlhahlobo ho 60 00:05:36,620 --> 00:05:40,593 latela seo e le hore a fihlelle sephetho se lakatsehang. 61 00:05:40,593 --> 00:05:48,171 - Mohlala, batho ba etsang liphuputso hangata ke banna ba baholo ba phetseng hantle ba sa emelang karolo e fapaneng ea sechaba. 62 00:05:48,171 --> 00:05:53,882 Ho feta moo, hangata ho na le batho ba fokolang haholo ba lekoa le nako ea phuputso e le khutšoanyane haholo hore e ka 63 00:05:53,882 --> 00:05:57,620 fumana setšoantšo se hlakileng sa litla-morao tse hlahang. 64 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:01,792 - Hape ha ho ntse ho fuputsoa hore na batho ba entetsoeng ba kula ka makhetlo a fokolang kapa ka bokuli bo bobebe, kapa 65 00:06:01,792 --> 00:06:04,566 ba shoela ka makhetlo a fokolang ho feta batho ba sa entoang. 66 00:06:04,566 --> 00:06:08,491 - Ke taba feela ea ho lekanya boemo ba masole a 'mele maling. 67 00:06:08,491 --> 00:06:12,447 Ena ke boleng bo behiloeng feela. 68 00:06:12,447 --> 00:06:17,259 Ha boleng bona bo lekanyetsoa maling, ho boleloa hore ente e sebetsa hantle. 69 00:06:17,259 --> 00:06:21,338 - Hape ha ho na dikomiti kapa balaodi ba ikemetseng ba hlahlobang diphetho. 70 00:06:21,338 --> 00:06:25,339 Paul Ehrlich Institute le RKI, tse ikarabellang bakeng sa ho hlahloba diphetho tsa 71 00:06:25,339 --> 00:06:28,072 diphuputso tsena, di a hloleha lekaleng lena. 72 00:06:28,072 --> 00:06:31,340 Ba susumetsoa ebile ba tšehetsoa ka lichelete hanyane ke baetsi. 73 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:35,126 STIKO hape e na le likamano tse matla le indasteri. Litho tse leshome le metso e supileng 74 00:06:35,126 --> 00:06:37,430 tsa STIKO li sebetsa indastering ea liente. 75 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:41,654 Seo se ka tshwana le ho dumella moithuti ya sa tswa qeta sekolong se phahameng hore a hlahlobe ditlhahlobo tsa hae 76 00:06:41,654 --> 00:06:45,124 tsa ho qetela. Sephetho se ne se ke ke sa ba se sa sekamang. 77 00:06:45,124 --> 00:06:52,093 Polelo e reng: "Kaha batho ba bangata ba se ba entiloe, mafu a buuoang ka ona a ntse a fokotseha" ha e nnete. 78 00:06:52,093 --> 00:06:59,469 Le pele meento e itseng e ne e e-s'o fanehe ho bohle, palo ea batho ba kulang e ne e se e ntse e fokotseha. 79 00:06:59,469 --> 00:07:04,454 Sena se bakwa haholo ke maemo a phedisano a ntlafetseng jwalo ka bohloeki le phepo e nepahetseng. 80 00:07:04,454 --> 00:07:08,083 Ho boetse ho na le diphuputso tse bontshang se fapaneng. 81 00:07:08,083 --> 00:07:14,360 Maemong a mang a seo ho thoeng ke mehlala ea seoa, boholo ba ba amehileng ba kentiloe. 82 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,126 Ha ho le e 'ngoe ea lintlha tsena e tšohloang lisebelisoeng tsa ho ruta. 83 00:07:19,126 --> 00:07:23,455 Sebakeng sa ho fumana thuto e phethahetseng le e leka-lekaneng, baithuti ba fuoa 84 00:07:23,455 --> 00:07:27,199 tlhahisoleseding e sekametseng le e seng e khethiloe. 85 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:34,377 Ntho efe kapa efe e sa lumellaneng le pale e atileng, tabeng ena e leng "pale ea ente", e mpa e tlohelloa. 86 00:07:34,377 --> 00:07:42,666 Hape hape, ho ntse ho hlaka hore bana ba rona ba pepesetsoa tšusumetso e kholo ea mehopolo sekolong. 87 00:07:42,666 --> 00:07:46,672 Ke eng se ka morao ho letsholo lena le leholo la ente, le qobelloang ho etswa leha ho 88 00:07:46,672 --> 00:07:49,980 na le kgaello e matla ya matitjhere dikolong? 89 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:54,227 Boikemisetso ba ho entoa bo ntse bo theoha ka kakaretso har'a sechaba. 90 00:07:54,227 --> 00:07:58,603 Na sena se lokela ho boelwa hape ke batjha? 91 00:07:58,603 --> 00:08:03,626 Liente le tsona ke khoebo ea boleng ba bilione ea liponto bakeng sa indasteri ea meriana. 92 00:08:03,626 --> 00:08:08,544 Kaha lingaka li fana ka liente, le tsona ke karolo ea khoebo ena. 93 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:17,310 Ngaka Paul Thomas, ngaka ea mafu a bana e koetlisitsoeng Dartmouth, o buile ka qaka ena ka la 16 Mmesa 2024 94 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:28,085 puisanong le Polly Tommey e le karolo ea leeto la bese la Children's Health Defense la 'Vax-Unvax: The People's Study'. 95 00:08:28,085 --> 00:08:33,096 O hlalosa ka botlalo kamoo lingaka tsa bana li tlamehang ho sebetsa e le hore – ka 96 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:36,706 tsela ea sebele – "li tsoele pele ka mosebetsi". 97 00:08:36,706 --> 00:08:41,335 Mekhoa ea phekolo ea bana e itšetlehile haholo ka liente. 98 00:08:41,335 --> 00:08:46,313 Ha ngaka e sa etse jwalo, e lahlehelwa ke boholo ba moputso wa yona. 99 00:08:46,313 --> 00:08:50,478 Ngaka e fumana chelete mokentong o mong le o mong o fanoang. 100 00:08:50,478 --> 00:08:55,754 Mona ke mohlala o mokgutshwane o tswang tshebetsong ya Ngaka Thomas. 101 00:08:55,754 --> 00:09:06,292 "Ha re re, nakong ea ketelo ea likhoeli tse peli, lesea le phetseng hantle le fumana ente ea DPT – ke liente tse tharo, 102 00:09:06,292 --> 00:09:17,789 li-antigen tse tharo," a hlalosa, hape a re "HiB , pneumococcus, hepatitis B, polio, rotavirus – seo se ka ba £200." 103 00:09:17,789 --> 00:09:23,386 Ho feta moo, ho na le meputso e hokahaneng le sekhahla sa ente. 104 00:09:23,386 --> 00:09:31,182 Lik'hamphani tsa inshorense li fa lingaka tsa bana litefo tsa bonase haeba li fihlella litefello tse itseng tsa ente. 105 00:09:31,182 --> 00:09:39,502 Hangata ke hoo e ka bang 80% ea bakuli ba entetsoeng ka botlalo pele ba le lilemo li peli. 106 00:09:39,502 --> 00:09:47,970 Thomas o hlakisa ntlha ena: "Sena se bolela hore setsi sa bophelo sa bana se ke ke sa phela haeba se 107 00:09:47,970 --> 00:09:53,166 sa fane ka liente tse ngata, haeba e se kaofela." 108 00:09:53,166 --> 00:10:00,920 Mme ke nahana hore seo se hlalosa ho iphapanyetsa – hore na ke hobaneng ha dingaka di mpa di sa batle ho 109 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,440 tobana le nnete ya hore meento ena e baka tshenyo e kgolo. 110 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:12,592 Rahistori oa tsa bongaka le mongoli Dr Gerd Reuther o fana ka litlhaloso tse tebileng le ho feta mabapi le 111 00:10:12,592 --> 00:10:18,667 hore na ke hobane'ng ha liente li khothaletsoa haholo le ho ntse li abeloa batho ka bongata. 112 00:10:18,667 --> 00:10:23,158 Re qotsa puisano le Report 24: 113 00:10:23,158 --> 00:10:29,301 Ho sa tsotellehe tsohle, lithahasello tsa phaello ha li fihlellehe ha re sheba lenaneo lena, le 114 00:10:29,301 --> 00:10:33,583 lebisitseng ho hlaha ha mafu a mangata a sa foleng. 115 00:10:33,583 --> 00:10:40,912 Ka tlhahlobo e bohlale le botebo ba saense, o senola likamano tse atolohang hole ho feta 116 00:10:40,912 --> 00:10:45,243 lipuisano tsa bongaka. Shebella puisano eohle mona.