WEBVTT 00:00.423 --> 00:05.142 Lona bohle ba nang le bana kapa litloholo tse lilemong tsa sekolo, le tseba sena: 00:05.142 --> 00:12.033 Thuto e lula e hlakolwa, bana ba kgutla sekolong kapele kapa ba fumana dithuto tsa moemedi. 00:12.033 --> 00:16.078 Lebaka la sena ke khaello e matla ea matichere naheng ka bophara. 00:16.078 --> 00:23.406 Sena se bolela hore bana ba bangata ba fumana thuto e sa lekanang ho ka tseba ka botlalo kharikhulamo e reriloeng. 00:23.406 --> 00:32.473 Moemong ona, sehlooho se latelang sa koranta se tsoang ho Frankfurter Rundschau ka la 13 Pulungoana 2024 se ea hlokomeleha: 00:32.473 --> 00:37.488 Thuto ea ente e se e ruteloa likolong tsa Hessian! 00:37.488 --> 00:42.880 Ena ha se thuto e tloaelehileng ea baeloji ka liente eo re e tloaetseng. 00:42.880 --> 00:49.422 Ho e-na le hoo, e mabapi le lisebelisoa tse ling tsa thuto tse qaqileng tse hlophisitsoeng ke mmuso oa naha 00:49.422 --> 00:54.075 mabapi le taba ea mafu a tšoaetsanoang le tšireletso ea ente. 00:54.075 --> 01:00.119 Sena se lokela ho thusa bacha ho etsa qeto ea bona e nang le tsebo mabapi le ente. 01:00.119 --> 01:04.487 Letona la Bophelo bo Botle Diana Stolz o hlalosa: 01:04.487 --> 01:10.976 Barupeli ba na le kamano e kgethehileng ya tshepo le bana le batjha, mme ka lebaka la boiphihlelo ba bona ba dilemo tse ngata 01:10.976 --> 01:15.180 le bokgoni ba ho ruta, ba kgona ho hlalosetsa le ditaba tse rarahaneng ka tsela e 01:15.180 --> 01:17.151 utlwisisehang le e loketseng dilemo tsa bona. 01:17.151 --> 01:23.929 Ka bokgutshwanyane, sena se bolela hore matitjhere a lokela ho sebedisa nako e eketsehileng ya boitokisetso le ya ho 01:23.929 --> 01:30.993 ruta, mme a sebedise kamano ya ona e kgethehileng ya tshepo le baithuti ho ba kgothaletsa hore ba entelwe. 01:30.993 --> 01:37.390 Qeto e nahanelang joalokaha ho boletswe ka hodimo e ka etswa jwang tlasa maemo ana? 01:37.390 --> 01:42.966 Baithuti ba bontšoa feela litlamorao tse nkoang li le ntle tsa liente. 01:42.966 --> 01:48.950 Leha ho le jwalo, bohle ba a tseba hore qeto e etswang ka kelello e ka etswa feela kamora 01:48.950 --> 01:52.573 ho lekola ka hloko melemo le mathata a taba. 01:52.573 --> 01:56.173 Hobaneng dintlha tse latelang di sa sebetswe? 01:56.173 --> 02:01.760 Ho qala ka polokeho e phahameng haholo ea liente e babatsoang le ho qotsitsoeng haholo. 02:01.760 --> 02:07.688 Setsebi sa bohlokoahali sa liente naheng ea United States, Ngaka Stanley Plotkin, le baithuti ba hae ba sa tsoa lumela hore liente 02:07.688 --> 02:14.083 – joalokaha bahlahlobisisi ba tsona ba 'nile ba bolela nako e telele – ha li e-s'o etsoe liphuputso tse lekaneng ka tsona. 02:14.083 --> 02:21.597 Kamora mashome a dilemo a ho bolela hore polokeho ya mekento e batlisisitswe ka botlalo le ka matla, 02:21.597 --> 02:25.713 Sekolo sa Plotkin jwale se inehetse: ha ho jwalo! 02:25.713 --> 02:34.473 "Liente tse ngata ha li lekoa ka ho lekana ebang ke pele kapa kamora hore li amoheloe," ho rialo Plotkin le baithuti ba hae. 02:34.473 --> 02:42.023 Sena se tlalehiloe sengolong se nang le sehlooho se reng "Funding Science on Vaccine Safety After Licence 02:42.023 --> 02:47.433 Approval," se hlahileng ho New England Journal of Medicine. 02:47.433 --> 02:54.109 Blog ea saense le lipolotiki 'tkp' e hlalosa sena ka botlalo sengoliloeng. 02:54.109 --> 03:04.666 U ngola: Sekolo sa Plotkin se lumetse "hore liente ha li lekoa ka nepo – ebang ke pele kapa kamora hore li amoheloe." 03:04.666 --> 03:11.565 Ka mohlala, ba ile ba lumela hore liteko tsa bongaka pele di amohelwa di na le palo e fokolang ya batho ba lekolwang le nako 03:11.565 --> 03:19.199 e kgutshwane ya ho ba sala morao, le hore ha ho na ditjhelete tse abetsweng dithuto tsa polokeho ka mora hore di amohelwe. 03:19.199 --> 03:24.893 Ka lebaka lena, hape ho ke ke ha khoneha ho tseba hore na ho bile le ditlamorao kamorao ho meento. 03:24.893 --> 03:31.486 Sena se bolela hore setjhaba se bolelletswe hore ho na le ditlamorao tse fokolang kapa ha di yo ho hang ho tswa entefong. 03:31.486 --> 03:39.229 Leha ho le jwalo, nnete e fapane haholo ha ho tluwa entong ya HPV kgahlanong le kankere ya molomo wa popelo, e kgothaletswang 03:39.229 --> 03:43.430 haholo hara batjha mme, haufinyane tjena, dikolong. 03:43.430 --> 03:52.266 Liphuputso tse 'maloa li bontšitse ka ho hlaka hore ente e baka litla-morao tse tebileng tse kang mafu a autoimmune. 03:52.266 --> 03:59.418 Ho feta moo, bankakarolo phuputsong e entsoeng ke Merck ba ile ba shoa ka makhetlo a 2-5 ho feta kamoo ho tloaelehileng 03:59.418 --> 04:04.055 bakeng sa sehlopha sena sa lilemo ho latela sekhahla sa mafu. 04:04.055 --> 04:07.924 Ho feta moo, palo ea batho ba kulang ka mofetše oa molomo oa popelo e ile ea sekamela ho 04:07.924 --> 04:11.236 eketseha ho e-na le ho fokotseha kamora ho qala ente. 04:11.236 --> 04:17.017 Ho feta moo, diphuputso tse ding di bontshitse ka ho hlaka hore ho na le ditlamorao tse 04:17.017 --> 04:21.055 ding tse ngata tse amanang le meento e meng hape. 04:21.055 --> 04:30.283 Tsena di kenyeletsa lefu la tsohanyetso la masea, mathata a kholo ea methapo ea boko, aleji, mafu a autoimmune, 04:30.283 --> 04:34.933 ho ba bonolo ho tšoaetsoa ke mafu a tšoaetsanoang, jj. 04:34.933 --> 04:42.559 U ka fumana litlhaloso tse qaqileng haholoanyane mabapi le taba ena mananeong a Kla.TV a boletsoeng karolong ea boitsebiso. 04:42.559 --> 04:49.992 Puong ea hae "Liente li sebetsa hantle hakae?", Andreas Diemer, ngaka e akaretsang le setsebi sa fisiksi se hlomathisitsoeng, 04:49.992 --> 04:57.113 o hlalosa ka tsela eo bohle ba ka e utloisisang hore na liphuputso ka polokeho ea liente li mabapi le eng. 04:57.113 --> 05:01.320 Lintlha tsa bohlokoahali li akaretsitsoe ka bokgutshwanyane ka tlase. 05:01.320 --> 05:04.806 - Ha ho na liphuputso mabapi le polokeho ea liente. 05:04.806 --> 05:08.617 - Ha ho liteko tsa sebele tsa placebo tse ntseng li etsoa. 05:08.617 --> 05:13.646 - Sena se bolela hore ha ho na dihlopha tse bapiswang tse bontshang ka ho hlaka hore na ho na le ditlamorao le hore na 05:13.646 --> 05:16.886 ke dife tse hlahang ho batho ba entilweng le ba sa entwang. 05:16.886 --> 05:21.792 Ha ho na liphuputso tse nepahetseng ka saense mabapi le katleho ea liente. 05:21.792 --> 05:26.740 Liphuputso tse entsoeng kaofela li entsoe ke moetsi ka boeena. 05:26.740 --> 05:31.682 Sena ka tlhaho se lebisa hore diphuputso di kengwe tsela e itseng. 05:31.682 --> 05:36.620 Moetsi o batla haholo hore sehlahisoa sa hae se rekisoe, mme o hlophisa phuputso le tlhahlobo ho 05:36.620 --> 05:40.593 latela seo e le hore a fihlelle sephetho se lakatsehang. 05:40.593 --> 05:48.171 - Mohlala, batho ba etsang liphuputso hangata ke banna ba baholo ba phetseng hantle ba sa emelang karolo e fapaneng ea sechaba. 05:48.171 --> 05:53.882 Ho feta moo, hangata ho na le batho ba fokolang haholo ba lekoa le nako ea phuputso e le khutšoanyane haholo hore e ka 05:53.882 --> 05:57.620 fumana setšoantšo se hlakileng sa litla-morao tse hlahang. 05:57.620 --> 06:01.792 - Hape ha ho ntse ho fuputsoa hore na batho ba entetsoeng ba kula ka makhetlo a fokolang kapa ka bokuli bo bobebe, kapa 06:01.792 --> 06:04.566 ba shoela ka makhetlo a fokolang ho feta batho ba sa entoang. 06:04.566 --> 06:08.491 - Ke taba feela ea ho lekanya boemo ba masole a 'mele maling. 06:08.491 --> 06:12.447 Ena ke boleng bo behiloeng feela. 06:12.447 --> 06:17.259 Ha boleng bona bo lekanyetsoa maling, ho boleloa hore ente e sebetsa hantle. 06:17.259 --> 06:21.338 - Hape ha ho na dikomiti kapa balaodi ba ikemetseng ba hlahlobang diphetho. 06:21.338 --> 06:25.339 Paul Ehrlich Institute le RKI, tse ikarabellang bakeng sa ho hlahloba diphetho tsa 06:25.339 --> 06:28.072 diphuputso tsena, di a hloleha lekaleng lena. 06:28.072 --> 06:31.340 Ba susumetsoa ebile ba tšehetsoa ka lichelete hanyane ke baetsi. 06:31.340 --> 06:35.126 STIKO hape e na le likamano tse matla le indasteri. Litho tse leshome le metso e supileng 06:35.126 --> 06:37.430 tsa STIKO li sebetsa indastering ea liente. 06:37.430 --> 06:41.654 Seo se ka tshwana le ho dumella moithuti ya sa tswa qeta sekolong se phahameng hore a hlahlobe ditlhahlobo tsa hae 06:41.654 --> 06:45.124 tsa ho qetela. Sephetho se ne se ke ke sa ba se sa sekamang. 06:45.124 --> 06:52.093 Polelo e reng: "Kaha batho ba bangata ba se ba entiloe, mafu a buuoang ka ona a ntse a fokotseha" ha e nnete. 06:52.093 --> 06:59.469 Le pele meento e itseng e ne e e-s'o fanehe ho bohle, palo ea batho ba kulang e ne e se e ntse e fokotseha. 06:59.469 --> 07:04.454 Sena se bakwa haholo ke maemo a phedisano a ntlafetseng jwalo ka bohloeki le phepo e nepahetseng. 07:04.454 --> 07:08.083 Ho boetse ho na le diphuputso tse bontshang se fapaneng. 07:08.083 --> 07:14.360 Maemong a mang a seo ho thoeng ke mehlala ea seoa, boholo ba ba amehileng ba kentiloe. 07:14.360 --> 07:19.126 Ha ho le e 'ngoe ea lintlha tsena e tšohloang lisebelisoeng tsa ho ruta. 07:19.126 --> 07:23.455 Sebakeng sa ho fumana thuto e phethahetseng le e leka-lekaneng, baithuti ba fuoa 07:23.455 --> 07:27.199 tlhahisoleseding e sekametseng le e seng e khethiloe. 07:27.199 --> 07:34.377 Ntho efe kapa efe e sa lumellaneng le pale e atileng, tabeng ena e leng "pale ea ente", e mpa e tlohelloa. 07:34.377 --> 07:42.666 Hape hape, ho ntse ho hlaka hore bana ba rona ba pepesetsoa tšusumetso e kholo ea mehopolo sekolong. 07:42.666 --> 07:46.672 Ke eng se ka morao ho letsholo lena le leholo la ente, le qobelloang ho etswa leha ho 07:46.672 --> 07:49.980 na le kgaello e matla ya matitjhere dikolong? 07:49.980 --> 07:54.227 Boikemisetso ba ho entoa bo ntse bo theoha ka kakaretso har'a sechaba. 07:54.227 --> 07:58.603 Na sena se lokela ho boelwa hape ke batjha? 07:58.603 --> 08:03.626 Liente le tsona ke khoebo ea boleng ba bilione ea liponto bakeng sa indasteri ea meriana. 08:03.626 --> 08:08.544 Kaha lingaka li fana ka liente, le tsona ke karolo ea khoebo ena. 08:08.544 --> 08:17.310 Ngaka Paul Thomas, ngaka ea mafu a bana e koetlisitsoeng Dartmouth, o buile ka qaka ena ka la 16 Mmesa 2024 08:17.310 --> 08:28.085 puisanong le Polly Tommey e le karolo ea leeto la bese la Children's Health Defense la 'Vax-Unvax: The People's Study'. 08:28.085 --> 08:33.096 O hlalosa ka botlalo kamoo lingaka tsa bana li tlamehang ho sebetsa e le hore – ka 08:33.096 --> 08:36.706 tsela ea sebele – "li tsoele pele ka mosebetsi". 08:36.706 --> 08:41.335 Mekhoa ea phekolo ea bana e itšetlehile haholo ka liente. 08:41.335 --> 08:46.313 Ha ngaka e sa etse jwalo, e lahlehelwa ke boholo ba moputso wa yona. 08:46.313 --> 08:50.478 Ngaka e fumana chelete mokentong o mong le o mong o fanoang. 08:50.478 --> 08:55.754 Mona ke mohlala o mokgutshwane o tswang tshebetsong ya Ngaka Thomas. 08:55.754 --> 09:06.292 "Ha re re, nakong ea ketelo ea likhoeli tse peli, lesea le phetseng hantle le fumana ente ea DPT – ke liente tse tharo, 09:06.292 --> 09:17.789 li-antigen tse tharo," a hlalosa, hape a re "HiB , pneumococcus, hepatitis B, polio, rotavirus – seo se ka ba £200." 09:17.789 --> 09:23.386 Ho feta moo, ho na le meputso e hokahaneng le sekhahla sa ente. 09:23.386 --> 09:31.182 Lik'hamphani tsa inshorense li fa lingaka tsa bana litefo tsa bonase haeba li fihlella litefello tse itseng tsa ente. 09:31.182 --> 09:39.502 Hangata ke hoo e ka bang 80% ea bakuli ba entetsoeng ka botlalo pele ba le lilemo li peli. 09:39.502 --> 09:47.970 Thomas o hlakisa ntlha ena: "Sena se bolela hore setsi sa bophelo sa bana se ke ke sa phela haeba se 09:47.970 --> 09:53.166 sa fane ka liente tse ngata, haeba e se kaofela." 09:53.166 --> 10:00.920 Mme ke nahana hore seo se hlalosa ho iphapanyetsa – hore na ke hobaneng ha dingaka di mpa di sa batle ho 10:00.920 --> 10:06.440 tobana le nnete ya hore meento ena e baka tshenyo e kgolo. 10:06.440 --> 10:12.592 Rahistori oa tsa bongaka le mongoli Dr Gerd Reuther o fana ka litlhaloso tse tebileng le ho feta mabapi le 10:12.592 --> 10:18.667 hore na ke hobane'ng ha liente li khothaletsoa haholo le ho ntse li abeloa batho ka bongata. 10:18.667 --> 10:23.158 Re qotsa puisano le Report 24: 10:23.158 --> 10:29.301 Ho sa tsotellehe tsohle, lithahasello tsa phaello ha li fihlellehe ha re sheba lenaneo lena, le 10:29.301 --> 10:33.583 lebisitseng ho hlaha ha mafu a mangata a sa foleng. 10:33.583 --> 10:40.912 Ka tlhahlobo e bohlale le botebo ba saense, o senola likamano tse atolohang hole ho feta 10:40.912 --> 10:45.243 lipuisano tsa bongaka. Shebella puisano eohle mona.