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Moetsi oa lifilimi tsa lipatlisiso Klaus
Scheidsteger esale a sebetsa tabeng ea likhokahano tsa

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mehala e tsamaeang ka lilemo tse ka bang 20 hantle.

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Ka 2006, setsi sa phatlalatso sa Fora, France 2, se ile sa
phatlalatsa tlaleho ya sona ya pele ya bohlokwa

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ya metsotso e 50 mabapi le boemo ba saense ka
nako eo, nakong ya mananeo a shebelloang haholo.

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Molekane oa tlhahiso-'moho MDR o khaotse karolo ea ARD
hore e be metsotso e ka tlase ho 30 mme a e "pata"

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lenaneong la hoseng la MDR, a sa e phatlalatse le ho hang!

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Na seo ha se bitsoe tshekatsheko ya ditaba?

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Empa Klaus Scheidsteger ha a ka a inehela.

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Ka mor'a moo, o ile a hlahisa lifilimi tsa bopaki tsa
cinema mme a sebelisa likamano tsa hae le bo-ramahlale ba tsoang

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lefats'eng lohle ho thusa ho hlophisa likopano tsa machaba.

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Mohlala oa Klaus Scheidsteger o bontša hore ho ka khoneha feela
ho phatlalatsa tlhahisoleseling e nang le motheo o

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tiileng le e nyatsang mabapi le lihlooho tse kang
5G, kantle ho "mainstream" e ntseng e tšoana haholo.

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Ka hona, thusa ho hlola thibelo ena e atileng ka ho arolelana
litokomane tsa Scheidsteger le metsoalle le ba lelapa la hao.

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Ho tokomane ena, Scheidsteger o hlahisa
ngongoreho ea hae e tebileng mabapi le libaka

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tsa phomolo tsa bophelo bo botle Jeremane.

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Na baeti ba spa ba ntse ba ka phomola hara
keketseho e kholo ea ho pepesehela mahlaseli?

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Tlhaho le bana ba phela joang?

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Filimi e latelang e bontsha mosebetsi o kgothatsang wa
boikitlaetso ba baahi ba tswang Bad Liebenzell, e ka hara Black

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Forest e ka leboya, e ntseng e leka ka matla ho
itshireletsa kgahlanong le dipolotiki tse bonahalang di ba feta

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matla le kgatello ya dikhamphani tsa mehala ya letsoho.

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Boikitlaetso ba baahi bo ruta baahi ka thuso
ea litsebi, hobane thuto e hlokahala haholo.

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Ke taba e re amang bohle.

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Na uena kapa motho eo u mo tsebang o ntse a
utloa matlafalatso a mahlaseli a mohala oa

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thekeng? Joale mo ngolise kajeno ho vetopedia.org!

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"Tlhahisoleseding e hlokahala ka potlako" –
Boikitlaetso ba baahi ba Bad Liebenzell le 5G

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Bad Liebenzell, toropo e tloaelehileng
ea libate ka leboea ho Black Forest.

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Moya o hloekileng, moru, metsi a chesang
– tsena tsohle di theha moya wa phomolo.

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Ho ya ka ditsebi tsa lehae tsa maano a papatso –
sebaka sa matla bakeng sa bophelo bo botle le boiketlo.

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Batho ba batlang phomolo ba etela Bad Liebenzell ka pelegi
ba tsoa hohle Jeremane le linaheng tsa Europe tse haufi.

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Leha ho le jwalo, ho kgathatsa boholo ba boradipolotiki ba lehae,
botsitso bona bo botle bo kang setshwantsho bo

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sitisitswe dilemong tsa moraorao ke boikitlaetso
ba baahi ba kgokahano ya mehala ya letsoho ya 5G.

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Baahi ba amehileng ba hlophisa liketsahalo tsa
tlhahisoleseling khafetsa ho hlakisa mathata ao

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indasteri le boradipolotiki ba atisang ho a nyenyefatsa.

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Kalafo tsa spa le khanya e eketsehileng ha li tsamaellane hantle.

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Ke ka lebaka leo mosali ya sebete a thehileng morero wa
baahi wa Bad Liebenzell mme a lwantsha ka mekgwa yohle

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kgahlanong le katoloso e feletseng ya dikgokahano tsa selefouno.

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Jwaloka borasaense ba lefatshe ka bophara, o
kopa hore ho emisiwe katoloso ya thekenoloji ya 5G.

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Empa na 5G e ka thibeloa hona joale?

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"Ke nahana hore bo ka emisoa."

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Tsela e le 'ngoe feela ea ho e emisa ke ka ho ruta
baahi bohle hohle boemong ba Europe lefatšeng ka bophara.

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Mme ntho eo e etswa haholo-holo boemong ba lehae.

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Ho u tsamaetse joang? Na o ne o dula o
fumana batho ba ikemiseditseng ho mamela?

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Ka karolo e 'ngoe e, ka karolo e 'ngoe ke
fumane batho ba ikemiselitseng ho mamela.

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Mme hape re ile ra hlokomela kgafetsa ho tloha boikitlaetsong
ba baahi hore batho ba bangata ha ba na tsebo ka taba ena.

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Ba re: 5G e ntle, re hloka 5G.

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Empa ha o hlalosa mathata, batho ba re, "Re ne re sa tsebe seo."

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Ho se ho pakiloe hore ho ntse ho na le ho
se tsebe ho hongata mabapi le taba ena.

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Sena se bolela hore ho ntse ho na le tlhoko e kgolo ya thuto.

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Di-transmitter tse ntjha di se di hlomilwe mme
tse ntseng di le teng di ntlafaditswe bakeng sa

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5G, haholoholo merung e haufi le Bad Liebenzell.

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Boipiletong ba hae, Jutta Stern o ile a bokella
litšupiso tse fetang 10,000 tse khahlanong le ho

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phatlalatsoa ha 5G. Seo se feta karolo ea 50 lekholong ea baahi.

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Ke ho leka ho fumana balekane boemong ba lipolotiki ba
lehae ba ke keng ba hlokomoloha matšoenyeho a boikitlaetso

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ba baahi, le ba tla nka matšoenyeho a batho ka botebo.

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A ka nna a tšosa ba bangata, empa boitseko ba hae bo se
bo tsebahala haholo ebile bo ntse bo fumana kananelo.

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"Ho hotle hore ebe o ntse a tsoela pele ho manamisa liposetara,
a bile a li lefella ka chelete ea hae, ha re ka rialo."

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Hore o hlophisa liketsahalo mona lepatlelong la 'maraka,
moo a buisanang le batho le ho ba botsa: Na ha le ka ke la

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tla ho etsa ho hong mona? – ebe o boetse o bokella li-saena.

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Mme ke mo babatsa ka matla ao a ho tshehetsang ka ona.

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Mme e seng Bad Liebenzell feela, empa le Karls.

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E ntse e le sebakeng se haufi. Kahoo hoo ho hotle haholo, e.

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Boemong ba Europe, STOA Panel – komiti ea Paramente ea Europe – e
entse lipatlisiso ka litlamorao tsa bophelo bo botle tsa 5G mme e

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hlalositse ka ho hlaka hore, ho ipapisitsoe le kakaretso ea
liphetho tsa lithuto, ho na le bopaki ba monyetla oa ho baka

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mofetše hammoho le litlamorao tse mpe ho tsoalo, mekhahlelong ea
maqhubu a mehala ea thekeng e sebelisitsoeng ho fihlela joale.

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Ha ho na liphuputso tse lekaneng tse fumanehang
mabapi le 5G maqhubu a holimo. Ka lebaka lena,

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phuputso ea STOA e hlalosa 5G e le teko ho sechaba.

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Bangoli ba phuputso ena ba kopa hore ho emise ho phatlalatswa ha
5G, ho etswe diphuputso tse tebileng ka maqhubu a

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hodimo a 5G, ho rutwe setjhaba, le ho tsepamiswe
maikutlo hodima katoloso ya marangrang a fibre optic.

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"Lekgotla la kgwebo ya mehala ya letsoho le tseba ka sebele
dikotsi tsa bophelo bo botle, jwalo ka ha le baetsi ba dipolotiki

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ba tseba. Empa tlhahisoleseding ena e patelwa rona, baahi."

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Mme di-transmitter tsa 5G di ntse di kengwa moo re sa tsebe.

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Ha ho na ho ba le referendum kapa eng kapa eng.

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Ha ho na lipatlisiso tse ikemetseng, ha ho letho le
leng. Ke ka lebaka leo bohle re sebetsang 'moho ka

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boikitlaetso ba baahi ho pholletsa le Jeremane ho fihlela sena.

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Ho Mofumahatsana Stern, ntho e le 'ngoe e tiile: mang kapa
mang ea reng 5G ha e na kotsi o nka ho se tsebe ho ba tsebo.

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Mona Morung o Motsho, hangata ke batho feela ba tloaelehileng
ba buang ba tswa pelong ha ba bona ho ata ha dipilone tikolohong

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ya bona mme ba nahana ka seo sena se ka re etsang sona.

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"Re na le mathata a lekaneng re le naha ea kopanelo."

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Empa bothata bo boholo ka ho fetisisa ke boo, hobane ke
karolo ea khokahano ea lefatše. Mme re itšetlehile ka Amerika.

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Mme ruri ho jwalo... Ho na le dithahasello tse ngata
haholo hoo ho batlang ho se kgonehe ho di sala morao kaofela.

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Empa ho na le batho ba ka 'nang ba hopola ka tsela e
itseng hore bophelo bo ka ba bonolo le mohlomong ba bolokehile.

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Ha ho hlokahale hore o sebelise dijithale ka tekanyo e kgolo
tjena kapa o nke mehato e meholo ya kgatelopele hore o tle

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o sebedise batho jwalo ka dibopuwa tse se nang tshireletso.

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Hangata re phela maphelo a thabileng haholo ka mekgwa e bonolo.

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Re ka lebella eng kannete kamorao ho
dijithale e pharaletseng le e phethahetseng?

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Ho senngoa eng ho batho le tlhaho?

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Hantle, theknoloji ea mehala ea letsoho esale e na le tšebeliso
sesoleng. 'Me 5G le eona ke morero oa sesole libakeng tse ngata.

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Mabotho a Sesole a Jeremane a ntse a kenngwa
tsamaisong ya dijithale ho ya ka lepetjo le reng: ba sa

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keneng tsamaisong ya dijithale ba tla salela morao.

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Linaha tsa NATO joale li ntse li tsoela pele
ka khokahano ea dijithale ea masole a ntoa.

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Dipatlisiso di etswa ka sephiri, ho kenyeleditswe le merung e
potileng Bad Liebenzell, jwalo ka ha Heinrich Christl a tseba:

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"Hantle, seo ha se re isetse kae kapa kae."

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Mme sebaka seo se boetse se le tlasa tlhokomelo ya sephiri.

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Mme letshwao lena, "CITA", e bile ntho ya pele eo ke
ileng ka e hlokomela ka nako eo. Mme le potapotile moru mona.

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E, o ka tsamaya ka maoto hohle mona, merung eohle mona.

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Ke mona feela tsela e potolohang kantle,
'me ha o na monyetla oa ho kena morung.

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Heinrich Christl o ile a buisana ka taba ena ka
botlalo le baahi ba lehae mme esale a utlwa ka mathata

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a ntseng a eketseha ho tloha hoo e ka bang ka 2019.

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Ho tloha hantle nakong eo Moru o Motsho o neng
o sebedisetswa merero ya sesole sebakeng sena.

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Le hona ke ntho e ntjha. E bile teng ho
tloha ka 5G. Ntho tsohle di tletse haholo mona.

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Kahoo haeba motho a na le mathata, a ke ke a
hlola a robala haeba a na le boemo bo itseng

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ba seo ho thoeng ke ho se mamelle motlakase.

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Mohlahlobi oa tikoloho, setsebi sa litekanyo le
setsebi sa baelohing Dietrich Moldan o tseba tsohle ka eona.

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Batho ba bangata le ho feta ba nang le bothata le motlakase ba
kopa litšebeletso tsa hae, 'me ba etsa hore Ngaka Moldan a

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hlahlobe le ho sekaseka tikoloho ea bona ea botho a
sebelisa theknoloji ea ho lekanya, e le ho phekola mathata a ho

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robala, mokhathala o feteletseng kapa matšoao a tšoanang.

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Na matšoenyeho a batho ba bangata a na le
motheo ho latela pono ea setsebi ea Dietrich Moldan?

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Matšoenyeho a utloahalang, empa ka
holim'a tsohle ha a hlokahale ho hang.

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Boholo ba batho – liphuputso li bontša hore
ha e le hantle ha ho na thahasello ho 5G.

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Batho ba kgotsofetse ka 4G. E fana ka
lebelo le lekaneng la phetiso ya data.

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Ka 5G, ke hloka meese ea mehala ea letsoho e mengata le ho feta
– ho kenyeletsoa le li-small cell – e le hore, mohlala, ke khone

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ho kena ka tlung ke sebelisa khanya ea mabone a seterateng.

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Ka nako e tšoanang, marang-rang a fibre optic a ntse a
atolosoa, ao ha e le hantle a nang le sekhahla se

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phahameng haholo sa phetiso ea data se thibelang ho kena-kenana.

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Mme ho ke ke ha kgoneha ho utlwisisa hore na ke
hobaneng ha indasteri ya mehala ya letsoho e

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nna e qapa ditsamaiso tse ngata tsa seea-le-moea.

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Tlhoko e tlameha ho qala ka ho thehoa. Ha e eo ho hang.

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Batho ba kgotsofetse ka seo ba nang le
sona. Empa tjhe, 5G, 6G, 7G di a tla.

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Sepheo ha e le hantle ke ho hokahanya ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe,
ho tloha ho liofisiere ho isa ho lisebelisoa tsa ofisi – haeba u

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ka sheba litaba tsa morao-rao, moo ho boletsoeng esita le hore:

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Sepheo ke hore batho ba kenngoe di-transmitter e
le hore maqhubu a boboko ba bona a ka rekotoa.

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Sena se ka boela sa bolela hore ho ka khoneha ho
susumetsa batho ba kantle ka ho sebelisa maqhubu a

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phahameng e le ho ba laola le ho ba laola ka mano.

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Animasione ena e tsoang ho moetsi oa Jeremane oa
theknoloji ea liantene le lisathalaete, Kathrein, e bontša se

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tla khoneha nakong e tlang le se seng se ntlafalitsoe.

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Ka mohlala, antenna ea 5G e ka har'a mosele:
sistimi ea li-antenna tse patiloeng e tla sebelisoa

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bakeng sa ho khanna ka boikemelo nakong e tlang.

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Lefatshe le letjha le sebete?

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Ka tšohanyetso, boitsebelo ba boenjiniere ba Majeremane bo ile ba
rekisetsoa senatla sa likhokahano tsa mehala ea

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letsoho, Ericsson, e leng se ileng sa etsahala ka nako e
tšoanang le sehopotso sa lilemo tse 100 sa k'hamphani.

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Kgokahano e feletseng ya matlo, difolete, mabala
a dipapadi le dihotele – e bitswang "Inthanete ya

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Dintho" – ha e na bothata ho hang ka botekgeniki.

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Empa ho thoe'ng ka tlhahlobo ea theknoloji,
litšusumetso tsa baeloji liseleng tsa rona, mohlala?

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Ha ho lehlohonolo! Ha ho a ka ha fuputsoa. Joalokaha
polelo e reng: pele dijithale, matšoenyeho hamorao.

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Re kgutletse lebaleng la holo ya toropo e nyane e
ntle ya Bad Liebenzell, moo ho sebediswang sebini

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sa maqhubu se tsibetseng haholo sa Ngaka Moldan.

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Sena se ka bontsha mefuta eohle ya maqhubu a
mehala ya letsoho e sebediswang tikolohong ena.

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Kahoo seo re se bonang mona ke
mofuthu o pakeng tsa 80 MHz le 3 GHz.

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Mona, mefuta ea maqhubu ke 800 MHz LTE, 900 MHz e nang
le ESM le LTE, 1800 MHz e nang le LTE, le 2100, moo pele

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ho neng ho le le marang-rang a UMTS, hape e na le LTE.

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Ena ke tlhahlobo ea boemo ba hajoale.

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Hona joale re ntse re etsa tlhahlobo ho fumana
matla a mahlaseli a ka morao ho maqhubu ana ka bonngoe.

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Ka lipalo tse ipapisitseng le moroalo oa motheo le moroalo o
felletseng, e le hore re ka fumana mohopolo

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habonolo oa hore na bongata ba mahlaseli bo joang
mona ka pel'a holong ea toropo ea Bad Liebenzell.

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Tlhahlobo ea hae e tsamaellana le maemo a hajoale.

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Ka kakaretso, ho ka boleloa hore, ho ea ka maikutlo a litsebi tsa
baeloji ea meaho le lingaka tsa tikoloho tsa Europe,

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boima ba mantlha ba mahlaseli bo bile holimo haholo
ka lilemo tse ngata, esita le litoropong tse nyenyane.

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Ba kopa hore meeli e lokisoe. Maemo a ntse a
ba thata. Metse e meholo joalo ka Munich, ha

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ho sa na libaka tse se nang mehala ea thekeng.

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"Ka li-antenna tse ngata hakana ka hare, libaka li nyane haholo.

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Joale nahana – ho tshweisitswe dimithara tse 100 – ke hore
diantenna mona di behilwe ka dikgahla tsa dimithara tse 100.

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Ba teng ba limithara tse 200 hole, ba teng ba
limithara tse 150 hole, ba teng ba limithara tse 100 hole.

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Ha ho sa kgonahala ho etsa phuputso e jwalo.

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Hantle-ntle seo se bolela'ng ho bareki?

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Ho bareki, sena se bolela hore saense e ka
sitoa ho paka phapang lipakeng tsa lihlopha tsa

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batho tse pepesitsoeng le tse sa pepesetsoang.

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Ka 2020, boradipolotiki ba Europe Rivasi le
Buchner ba phatlaladitse pampiri ena ho

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pepesa dikamano tse haufi tsa IGNIR le indasteri.

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Sehlopha sena sa lekunutu sa kgothaletso bakeng sa indasteri ya
mehala ya letsoho se bile se fumaneha tlasa marulelo a le mang le

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Ofisi ya Federale ya Tshireletso kgahlanong
le Mahlaseli, mme se laola meedi e lokelang

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ho sireletsa bareki lefatsheng ka bophara.

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"Le tlameha feela ho hlakisetsa batho hore seo ho thoeng ke sa
mahlale, karolo ea sona ke lipolelo tsa

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bohata bo totobetseng, le hore, holim'a moo,
mekhatlo ea semmuso e tletse batho bana hohle."

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Ngaka ea tikoloho Monika Krout o tloaelane
le marang-rang a metsoalle ea banna le ho

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hloka tsebo ha boralipolotiki le indasteri.

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O qetile dilemo tse ngata a leka bakudi ba hae
ka mekgwa e mengata e fapaneng ya ho lekanya.

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Ba hoketsoe ka sesebelisoa sa ho lekanya pheto-pheto
ea morethetho oa pelo, batho ba lekoa ba tloaetse ho

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matha-matha ho potoloha seteishene sa phetiso morung.

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Komporo ebe e bala diphetho tsa tekanyo.

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Mona morung, o ka bona masthe ea phetiso e nang le
mahlaseli a phahameng ka ho fetisisa sebakeng sena.

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Aona ke mahlaseli a seea-le-moea ao re a lekantseng.

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Re ile ra rekota metsoako ea lipelo ka nako e le 'ngoe, 'me ho
hlakile hore nakong ea ho matha butle tseleng ea

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moru, metsoako ea lipelo ea eketseha libakeng
tseo maemo a mahlaseli a leng holimo ka ho fetisisa.

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Re entse tsohle ho batho ba babeli ba lekileng.

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Mona ke mohlodi wa bobedi wa diteko.

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Ke sa tsoa e hatisa e le ntsho le tshweu.

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Maemo a phahameng ka ho fetisisa a mahlaseli a tsamaellana
le maemo a phahameng ka ho fetisisa a sekhahla sa pelo.

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Mme seo se bolela hore moru – oo ho thweng o phetse
hantle ha o kena ho o tsamaya – o phetse hantle feela haeba

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ho se na meqhaka ea khaso kapa maqhubu a seea-le-moea moo.

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Seterekeng se senyenyane sa Bad Liebenzell sa Unterlengenhardt,
lefatshe le ntse le bonahala le le ka tshebedisong.

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Ka lebaka la boikitlaetso ba ramotse oa
sebakeng sena le setsebi se hloahloa sa linotši, ho

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ile ha qalisoa morero oa sekolo tšimong ena.

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Bana ba ikwetlisa temo ea serapeng, ba lema litlama
masimong a boholo bo fapaneng le ho kotula

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litapole, meroho le litholoana bakeng sa tšebeliso ea bona.

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Sena se boetse se hohela dibopuwa tse ding, tseo
mohlokomedi wa dinotshi a lokelang ho tshwenyeha ka tsona:

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"Ka lilemo tse ka bang tharo joale, mona Morung o motsho o ka
leboya, sebakeng sa dikhilomithara tse 20 ho tloha Calw ho ya

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Pforzheim, le ho tloha Wurzach ho lebile
Stuttgart, re ntse re bona dinotshi di nyamela feela ka

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Pulungoana, mme e seng feela mehlape e le nngwe."

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Empa mona mokgatlong wa barui ba dinotshi wa
Neuhausen, karolo ya 90 lekholong ya barui ba dinotshi e

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hlile e lahlehetswe ke dinotshi tsa bona kaofela.

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Mme balemi ba dinotshi ba ntse ba etsa sena ka dilemo tse
50, mme ha ho eso ka ho ba etsahalla letho le tjena pele.

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Ka Sontaha, ke buile le motho ea
lahlehetsoeng ke likolone tse 30.

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Ha a hlahloba ka Pulungoana, kaofela di ne di se di le siyo.

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Joale ho na le setšoantšo se secha ka ho feletseng, e
leng dijo tsa mariha – o ka bona ntho e tšoeu mona, ke

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tsona dijo tsa mariha – li ne li ntse li le ka hare kaofela.

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Kahoo linotsi ha lia shoa ke tlala.

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Mme ho li-combs tsa mofuta – ena ke comb ea
mofuta, ka mohlala – tsohle ka pele ka tloaelo e

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ne e le mofuta. Mofuta o ne o se ho sa le teng.

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Ho na le lijo hape ka morao. Mme ha ho setshwantsho se fumanweng
se ka supang hore na e ne e le mofuta ofe wa lefu la dinotshi.

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Mafu a khale a linotsi a ne a ka tsebahala ka ho sheba sela
sa mahe a linotsi. Mme mona o ka bona, ha ho letho ho hang.

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Ho eketseha ha lefu la linotsi lefatšeng ka bophara ho na
le tšusumetso e kholo tikolohong ea rona le ho rona batho.

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Ha e le hantle, bo-ramahlale ba
bangata baa tseba lisosa tse ngata-ngata.

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Har'a tse atisang ho boleloa haholo ke lik'hemik'hale tse bolaeang
likokoanyana, phetoho ea tlelaemete, le timetso ea libaka

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tsa bolulo, 'me ka hona, mehloli ea lijo ea mehlapana ea linotši.

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Tsoelopele e tšosang!

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Mefuta-futa ea likokoanyana e bohlokoa haholo ho
batho le tlhaho. Ha ho na ea ka hanang le seo.

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Leha ho le jwalo, leha diphuputso tse mmalwa di supile mathata a
ho lahlehelwa ke tsela a dinotshi a bakwang ke

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mahlaseli a mehala ya thekeng, ketsahalo ena ya mahlaseli ha e
kenyeletswe dipuisanong mabapi le ho shwa ha dinotshi.

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"Kahoo ho 'na ka bonna, ho ne ho hlakile
hore sena e ne e le ntho e neng e eketsa

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mathata 'ohle a mang ao re nang le ona le linotši.

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Mme ke hona hantle mahlaseli ana a ntseng a ba
le tshusumetso e kgolo haholo ho dinotshi. Ka

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mokgwa o tshwanang le wa glyphosate mehleng eo:

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Hore dinotshi di lahlehelwe ke tsela ha di ntse di fofa, ebe ha
di kgone ho fumana tsela ya ho kgutlela

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sehlopheng sa tsona mme di shwele kae kae kantle.
Ntle le moo, di fofa dikhilomithara tse tharo.

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O sebetsana le sena ka mokhoa o tsitsitseng joang?

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Bothata ke hore ha ho mekhatlo ea semmuso, ke hore,
mekhatlo kapa mokhatlo oa barui ba linotši – oo re

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lefang litefello tsa rona tsa botho ho oona – e arabelang.

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Mme ha o qala ho bua ka 5G, ba boela ba o hlokomoloha.

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Le bona balemi ba linotši ba 15 bao ke kopaneng le bona ka
Sontaha – ba ileng ba lahleheloa ke tsohle mme ba hlalosa

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boemo bo tšoanang – le bona ba ne ba sa itokisetsa ho
buisana ka taba ena ka botebo le balaoli ba tsa mahlaseli.

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Ba fane ka mabaka a mefuta eohle. Ha ho letho leo o ka le etsang
ka hona. Empa ha re tlohele taba ea mahlaseli kantle ho sena.

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Ho sa tsotellehe ho pepesehela mahlaseli, ho bohlokoa ho feta neng
kapa neng ho tsosa cheseho ea bana ba rona bakeng sa tlhaho.

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Sena se hloka mamello le boitlamo.

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Barupeli le batsoali ba mehleng ena ba ka 'na ba
batla ho hlahloba ka hloko seo lefatše la dijithale le

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bileng le se etsa bana ba rona ka lilemo tse ngata.

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Le hore na e ka ba nako ea ho nahana lintho bocha ka
botebo le ho hlahisa mehopolo e mecha – hantle feela joalokaha

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ba entse polasing e nyane ea sekolo se Unterlengenhardt.

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"Le tlameha ho hloekisa mona hanyane.
Tloong mona, ha re lokise taba ena."

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Joale o ka se bona hamolemo.

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Mme ka lehlakoreng le leng, o ne o na
le eng, oregano? Thyme. Hantle-ntle.

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Ebe ho na le Heinrich, tichere ea rona, ea lulang a
e-na le mehopolo e metle ea ho khothaletsa bana hore

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ba nke karolo ka tsela e itseng kapa hore ba ithabise.

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Bana ba hahile sets'oana sena ba le tlas'a tlhokomelo.

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Ba na le tjantjello hobane ba fumana tlhokomelo ea hau
ka botlalo – le mosebetsi o hole le lipapali tsa video,

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ho thella sekirini sa tablet, Facebook le tse tšoanang.

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Setjhaba se nang le boikarabelo se lokela ho nka kgato
kapele kamoo ho ka kgonehang. Ditsebi di ntse di leletsa lere.

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"Ho bile le keketseho e khōlō ea boitšoaro ba
ho lemalla har'a bana mabapi le li-smartphone."

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Ho na le liphuputso tse ileng tsa tlameha ho emisoa hobane bana
ba ne ba sitoa ho ikemela ntle le mehala ea bona ea letsoho.

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Kahoo ba ne ba batla ho e leka matsatsi a seng
makae, ba se na mohala oa thekeng – le ba e-na le oona.

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Mme teko e ne e sa kgone ho etswa hobane bana ba ne ba
sa kgone ho phela ntle le mehala ya bona ya letsoho.

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Mme phuputsong ena, o ka bona hore sena ke seo
ho tsejwang e le 'structural equation model',

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mme ha ke batle hore o e utlwisise ka botlalo.

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Empa seo o se bonang mona ke dikamano tsena pakeng tsa
bokhoba ba mohala wa thekeng le kgatello ya maikutlo.

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O ka bona hore dinakong tsohle tse tharo – e ne e le
phuputso ya nako e telele – tlhahlobo e ne e hokahane.

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Mme e seng hoo feela, e ne e dula e
ba le tshusumetso le nakong e tlang.

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Ka hona, sena se tšosa haholo bakeng sa bokamoso, hobane khatello
ea maikutlo ke bothata bo boholo matsatsing ana – litsebi tsa

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kelello tsa bana le bacha li ka u bolella ho hong ka taba eo.

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Setsebi se hlalosa ka bokgabane
mabaka a ka bang teng a ho se tsebe hona:

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Mebuso yohle e rua molemo haholo ho tswa ho dithekenoloji
tsena, eseng feela ka thekiso ya dilaesense, empa hape

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le ka lekeno le leholo la lekgetho leo di le hlahisang.

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Indasteri ea likhokahano e batla e le eona feela e
ntseng e hola le ho ba mohloli oa lekeno la lekhetho.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, boradipolotiki ka tlhaho le bona baa
elelloa liketsahalo tsena tsa sechaba, 'me ba bang ba bona

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ba leka ho kenella le ho li sebelisa molemong oa lipolotiki.

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Ntlha ea boraro ke hore boradipolotiki ke ba
bang ba pele ba ho amohela theknoloji ena.

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Ha ke batle ho bolela mabitso, empa ke tseba boradipolotiki ba
seng bakae ba ka hlalosoang e le makhoba a mehala ea letsoho.

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"Ha ke na tsebo, matla kapa monyetla, ke nahana, oa
ho fetola lefatše, empa ke hlatsoa monyako oa ka

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'me ke leka ho phela ka tsela eo nka e lokafatsang."

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"Re boetse ra romella tlhahisoleseding ena ka imeile ho
bo-ramotse ba rona ba Bad Liebenzell le hohle

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seterekeng sa Calw, hammoho le ho makhanselara a
lehae, empa ha rea ka ra fumana karabo leha e le efe."

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"Ke ile ka etela likolo naheng tsa Netherlands, Belgium le
Jeremane 'me ka bua le lihlooho tsa likolo, ka ba joetsa

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hore: 'Sena ke seo mahlaseli a se etsang bana ba rona.' 'Me
batho ba re: 'Empa ha ho letho leo re ka le etsang ka hona.'"

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Ke ne ke le sekolong sa machaba naheng ea Netherlands.
Ba ile ba re: Mahlaseli ha a bohlokoa hobane bana ba

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rona ba ithuta haholo ka matlapa le mehala ea thekeng.

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Ka atamela boradipolotiki, mme ba re: "Ho lokile, re ka nahana
hore o nepile, empa ha re bone tlhokahalo ea ho nka khato."

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