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A yau muna da bako wanda ke girgiza ginshikan kimiyyar likitanci.

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Mutum wanda ke ikirarin cewa ƙwayoyin cuta ba su
wanzu. Ko aƙalla cewa babu wata hujja mai amfani.

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Mai suna mugu mai son ya san komai? Mai nazarin abubuwan asiri mai
hauka ko ma mai son sake fasalta tarihi gaba ɗaya? Za mu gani.

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An tsara waɗannan jigogi a shafin
yanar gizon dandamalin sa na Next Level:

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Muna ɗaukar hanyar yin tambayoyi masu ƙarfin hali da sake tunani.

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Muna nazarin batutuwan cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta da na likitanci da
sabon hangen nesa, muna gano sabani kuma muna buƙatar gaskiya.

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Iƙirarinmu sun tsaya ƙwarai a kan majiyoyi masu gaskiya
kuma suna ba da tushe mai ƙarfi don tattaunawa mai gina jiki.

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Muna ci gaba da bude wa sabbin hangen nesa
kuma muna karfafa gwiwar ci gaba da nazarin

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kai a fannin kimiyya. Wata hanya ce mai daraja!

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Bari mu yi maraba da kakakin manema labarai na Next Level, Mista
Marvin Haberland, a cikin ɗakin studio na Kla.TV. Barka da zuwa!

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Yammaci lafiya kuma na gode ƙwarai da gayyatar.

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Eh, zan so! A gefe guda, hakan yana da matukar ban sha'awa.

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Mista Haberland, wannan buri mai daraja ne kuma mai
amfani, amma a gefe guda, tambaya ta taso: shin

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lallai yana da muhimmanci dangane da batun ƙwayar cuta?

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Ko ba a riga an warware tambayar ƙwayar cuta ba tun
sama da shekaru ɗari da suka wuce, kuma an tabbatar

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da hakan ba tare da wata shakka ba ta bincike da dama?

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Me yasa za a koma baya, kamar yadda ake cewa, kamar
ba a yi ingantaccen bincike kan ƙwayoyin cuta ba?

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Eh, wannan tambaya ce mai kyau. Idan muka yi amfani
da ka'idojin da ka tsara ko ka karanta a farko ga

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dukkan batutuwa, to ba za mu iya yin wani ban-banci ba.

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Kuma idan muka yi amfani da wannan a fannin nazarin ƙwayoyin cuta
(virology) kuma muka duba wallafe-wallafen masana nazarin

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ƙwayoyin cuta, muka nazarci ayyukansu da kuma sakamakon da ke
fitowa daga nazarin ƙwayoyin cuta, kamar magunguna, alluran

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rigakafi ko shawarwari, domin tabbatar da
sahihancinsu na kimiyya, to matsaloli masu tsanani

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ne ke tasowa waɗanda suka shafi hanyar kimiyya.

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Kuma shi ne abin da za mu tattauna a yau.

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Eh, amma ba shakka an gano ƙwayoyin cuta kuma aka gabatar
mana da su a kafofin watsa labarai da mujallu na ƙwararru.

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Na kawo wasu hotuna na ƙwayar cutar bluetongue, ƙwayar
cutar HIV, ƙwayar cutar smallpox da ƙwayar cutar coronavirus.

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Yaya game da waɗannan manyan nasarori masu kawo sauyi?

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Wannan hujja ce a baƙi da fari.

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Don haka idan ka fara da zato cewa, misali, mutane
biyu na iya kamuwa da cuta daga juna, to dole ne in

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gudanar da gwaji da zai goyi bayan ko tabbatar da zato na.

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Kuma a fannin nazarin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta, ana cewa
ƙananan ƙwayoyi suna tsallaka daga A zuwa B, misali ta

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iska, sannan waɗannan ƙananan ƙwayoyi su kamu da mutum.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa dole ne in tabbatar da wannan sarkar
sanadi da sakamako gaba ɗaya domin tabbatar da wannan zato.

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Duk da haka, ba a ƙirƙiri waɗannan hotuna a irin wannan gwaji ko
bincike ba. Hotunan da kuka nuna anan an ƙirƙire su ne ta hannun

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masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta (virologists) da ke gudanar da
gwaje-gwaje a dakin gwaje-gwaje – ba a cikin halitta kai tsaye

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(in vivo), ba a kan mutane, amma a cikin tsarin haɓakar ƙwayoyin
a dakin gwaje-gwaje – ta hanyar ɗaukar tsarin

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haɓakar ƙwayoyin, yawanci daga birai, daga ƙwayoyin
koda na birai, sannan a guba su kuma a hana su abinci.

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Sannan waɗannan hotuna su bayyana. Ana kuma
kiran wannan cytopathic effect, da sauran abubuwa.

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Amma gaskiyar ita ce idan ka maimaita wannan gwaji da nama mai
lafiya daga dabbobi masu lafiya, ko kuma idan

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ba ka saka samfurori daga dabbobi masu rashin
lafiya ba, za ka samu daidai irin waɗannan hotuna.

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Wannan shi ne abin da ake kira a
kimiyya gwajin kulawa ko kulawar mara.

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Wannan a zahiri an yi nufin kawar da yiwuwar cewa tsarin
gwaji a dakin bincikena kansa ne ke haifar da wannan sakamako.

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Wannan yana nufin idan na yi gwaji yanzu kuma na ɗauki
samfuran lafiya, zan samu daidai irin waɗannan hotuna.

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Amma masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta ba sa yin hakan. Suna
gudanar da gwaji guda ɗaya kawai, sa'annan su

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ɗauki hotunan waɗannan abubuwa su yi ikirarin cewa
su ne ƙwayoyin cuta masu haifar da rashin lafiya.

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Sai dai, ba su nuna, na farko, cewa wannan yana
faruwa ne musamman ga marasa lafiya kawai, kuma na

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biyu, cewa waɗannan tsarukan ne ke haifar da cutar.

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Domin a mataki na gaba, hoto kaɗai ba hujja ba
ce cewa ƙwayar ko tsarin ne ke haifar da cutar.

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Zan iya nuna gida da ya lalace in ce cewa girgizar ƙasa ce ta jawo
lalacewar, amma hoton kadai ba zai iya tabbatar da hakan ba.

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Akwai yiwuwar wata sanadi daban ce ta haddasa lalacewar.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa bayan na ɗauki hoto kuma na nuna wannan
hoto, wanda a zahiri ke faruwa ne kawai a cikin mutanen da

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ke da rashin lafiya; ba zan iya samun waɗannan tsarin a
cikin mutanen da suke da lafiya ba, sai in ware waɗannan tsarin.

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Sannan, a wani gwaji na gaba, a ba
shi ga dabbobi ko mutane sannan a nuna:

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Aha, za su kamu da ciwon da alamomi iri
ɗaya a yanzu idan na ba su waɗannan tsaruka.

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Masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta ma
ba sa yin wannan a kowane lokaci.

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Saboda haka, ana gudanar da duk
aikin ne kawai a dakin gwaje-gwaje.

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Ana guba ƙwayoyin halitta, ana hana su abinci tare da magungunan
kashe ƙwayoyin cuta da sauransu, sannan waɗannan tasirin suke

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faruwa, waɗanda ake kira tasirin cutarwa na ƙwayoyin halitta.

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Kamar yadda aka ambata, waɗannan suna faruwa daidai haka, ba za
a iya bambance su ba ko da a cikin ƙwayoyin nama masu lafiya.

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Kuma akwai bincike da wallafe-wallafe na kimiyyar ƙwayoyin cuta
da yawa, musamman daga farkon zamanin kimiyyar ƙwayoyin cuta ta

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zamani a shekarun 1940 da 1950, waɗanda aka buga
sau da yawa, waɗanda ke nuna cewa wannan tasirin

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yana faruwa ma idan aka yi amfani da nama mai lafiya.

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Kuma tun daga shekarun 1980 da 1990, masana
cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta sun ci gaba da kauce wa

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sarrafa waɗannan gwaje-gwaje da nama mai lafiya.

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Ba a sake yin hakan ba. Na yi
musayar wasiƙu da dama game da wannan.

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Don haka, na gabatar da buƙatu da dama
ƙarƙashin Dokar Yancin Samun Bayani.

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A duk faɗin duniya, a matakin ƙasa da ƙasa, Robert Koch
Institute, Public Health Service England, a Italiya, CDC

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a Amurka, Pasteur Institute a Faransa, Jami'ar Melbourne
a Ostiraliya, Doherty Institute, da sauransu da sauransu.

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Domin duk yiwuwar ƙwayoyin cuta, kamar measles,
SARS-CoV-2, HIV. Kuma saƙon koyaushe iri ɗaya ne:

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A'a, ba mu gudanar da gwaje-gwaje na kulawa ko sarrafawa marasa
sakamako tare da kayan lafiya ba. Ba a yin hakan kwata-kwata.

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Amma idan sun san wannan bambanci, menene
bayanin su? To me ya sa ba sa yin hakan?

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Shin suna cewa, "Eh, mun warware shi a
shekarun 1940, ba ma buƙatar sa yanzu"?

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To, amsoshin suna bambanta. Wani lokaci za ka ji
cewa babu ƙarfin gudanar da waɗannan gwaje-gwaje.

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Cewa kuna mai da hankali gaba ɗaya kan gwaje-gwaje masu kyau.

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Wannan shi ne, misali, martanin Ostiraliya ga SARS-CoV-2.

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A wasu lokuta, kamar yadda yake a yanzu da barkewar cutar kafa da
baki a Cibiyar Friedrich Loeffler, an gaya mana cewa ba

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dole ba ne, domin wasu hanyoyi, wato hanyoyi na kaikaice,
sun riga sun tabbatar cewa samfurin na ɗauke da ƙwayar cuta.

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Kuma waɗannan su ne uzuri na yau da
kullum, zan ce, waɗanda ake yawan ji.

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Duk da haka, waɗannan ba su gamsar da kimiyya ba kuma suna take
hanyar kimiyya, wadda ake buƙata ga duk masana

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cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta da cibiyoyi bisa ga Sashe na 1
na Dokar Kariya daga Cutar kamuwa da Cuta ta Jamus.

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An ce dole ne kowa ya yi aiki bisa ga sabbin binciken kimiyya.

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Kuma Gidauniyar Bincike ta Jamus a Jamus tana
ƙayyade ƙa'idodin aikin kimiyya ga duk masana kimiyya.

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Kuma a fili ya bayyana cewa dole ne mu gudanar da
matakan kulawa na baya, ko maimakon haka mu duba

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hanyoyinmu, mu rubuta komai domin kowa ya fahimta.

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Kuma hakan an take shi gaba ɗaya a fannin nazarin ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Amma idan ka yi gwaje-gwajen sarrafawa, kamar yadda mu kanmu muka
wallafa, misali mun wallafa gwaje-gwajen sarrafawa inda ka ƙara

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daidai waɗannan magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta da masana
cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta ke amfani da su a kan abubuwa masu

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lafiya, kana amfani daidai da dabarun yunwa
da masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta ke amfani

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da su, sai ka samu daidai waɗannan tasirin.

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Kuma, tabbas, masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta kansu sun wallafa
wannan sau da dama a baya, amma kamar yadda na ce, muna

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magana ne game da lokacin daga shekarun 1940 zuwa 1960 da
1970. Tun daga shekarun 1980 da 1990, ba a sake yin hakan ba.

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Muna magana koyaushe game da ƙwayoyin cuta. Me ya
sa akwai magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta a cikin

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waɗannan tsarin haɓakar ƙwayoyin? Me suke yi a can?

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Eh, wannan ma tambaya ce mai matuƙar muhimmanci kuma mai kyau.

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Masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta suna amfani da magungunan
kashe ƙwayoyin cuta a cikin waɗannan gwaje-gwajen kiwon ƙwayoyin

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a dakin gwaje-gwaje domin suna son tsarkake kiwon ƙwayoyin.

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Kana son hana kwayoyin cuta ko
wasu ƙananan halittu su shafi gwajin.

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Suna so ne kawai kwayoyin cuta, waɗanda ba su da
rai a zahiri, ba halittu masu rai ba ne, suna

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so ne kawai waɗannan kwayoyin cutar su yi tasiri.

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Kuma suna son kusan kawar da duk sauran ƙwayoyin halitta.

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Duk da haka, masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta sau da yawa ba
sa lura da cewa magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta kansu suna

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haifar da matsanancin damuwa ga nama, ga wannan noman ƙwayoyin.

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Kuma ba da magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta, galibi ana amfani da
guda biyu, penicillin da streptomycin tare, waɗanda da kansu ke

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haifar da damuwa ga tsarin kwayoyin halitta, sannan wannan
tasirin, wato cytopathic effect, ya faru, inda tsarin

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kwayoyin halitta ke rushewa, sannan a sayar mana da shi
a matsayin hoto na ƙwayar cuta, kamar yadda ake cewa.

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Akwai kuma bayanan masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta a cikin
wasikun musayar ra'ayi, ciki har da daga hukumomi kamar

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Friedrich Loeffler Institute, waɗanda suka bayyana a sarari:

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Wannan abu ne da aka sani sosai. Masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta
sun san cewa magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta suna da matsala ga

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nama kuma za su iya haifar da wannan tasirin cutar a ƙwayoyin.

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Kuma shi ya sa, a ilmin kimiyya, dole ne a gudanar da
gwajin kulawa, inda ake maganin samfurin lafiya da

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magungunan kashe kwayoyin cuta, amma hakan ba a taba yi ba.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa ko da tare da sabbin hanyoyi da mafi
kyawun na'urorin linzamin electron na bincike, ana iya ganin irin

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waɗannan tasirin a cikin mutane masu lafiya da marasa lafiya.

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Eh.

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Babu bambanci?

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Babu bambanci; ba za a iya bambance shi ba.

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Akwai wani batu da Kungiyar Bincike ta Jamus ke
bukata, wanda ba a taba amfani da shi a fannin nazarin

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cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta ba, kuma shi ne boye bayanai.

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Gaskiya yana da muhimmanci cewa masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta a
dakin gwaje-gwaje su kada su san wane samfurin ne aka

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kamu da cuta kuma wane, misali, ya fito daga tushe mai
lafiya, domin kada su yi nuna son rai ko su riga sun yi ra'ayi.

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Haka kuma ba a taɓa yin hakan a kowane lokaci
a fannin nazarin kwayoyin cuta gaba ɗaya ba.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa a zahiri muna
da wasu keta ka'idojin hanyar kimiyya.

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Rashin gwaje-gwaje na sarrafawa, rashin cikakken
takardun bayanai da rashin ɓoye bayanai, kuma ana ci gaba

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da take duk waɗannan – har ma daga Cibiyar Robert Koch.

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Kuma kamar yadda na ce, ba wai sukar hanyar kimiyya kawai ba
ne, amma mun sani cewa idan ka gudanar da waɗannan gwaje-gwajen

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sarrafawa, sakamako iri ɗaya ne ke faruwa ba tare da bambanci ba.

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Wannan kawai wargazar kai tsaye da ƙaryatawa ce ga ilimin
cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta – aƙalla dangane da wannan tasirin.

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Yanzu mun tattauna game da waɗannan hotuna
anan, gwaje-gwajen kiwon ƙwayoyin halitta.

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Masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta sai su ɗauki
mataki na biyu, wato jerin tsarin gado, wanda wasu

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masu kallo watakila sun taɓa jin labarinsa a da.

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Sai a yi ƙoƙarin gano jinin
halitta ko bayanan gado na ƙwayar cuta.

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Duk wannan ana yin sa ne ta amfani da samfurin kwamfuta, a ce.

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Wannan kwaikwayo ne na kwamfuta kawai da
ake yin amfani da shirye-shirye na kwamfuta.

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Ba shi da alaƙa da ainihin jerin abubuwa,
kuma a nan ba a gudanar da wani bincike ba.

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Kuma za ku kuma buƙaci yin jerin tsarin kiwon ƙwayoyin
halitta masu lafiya wanda ke haifar da waɗannan tasirin daidai.

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Kuma ga abin mamaki, idan ka yi haka, za ka ga
irin waɗannan genomes ɗin da ƙwayoyin cutar iri ɗaya a

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cikin tsarin kula da ƙwayoyin sel masu lafiya ma.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa zan iya ƙididdige dukkan ƙwayoyin
cuta daga cikin tsarin kula da ƙwayoyin sel masu lafiya da

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na guba da magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta kuma na yi yunwa.

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Zan iya gano HIV a can da sauƙi ta amfani da shirin kwamfuta.

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Zan iya samun SARS-CoV-2 a can, da kuma nau'ikan SARS-CoV-2.

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Kuma zan iya ƙara sauƙaƙa duk wannan ta hanyar sanya wannan
noman ƙwayoyin halitta ya bi wasu ƙarin matakai, kamar PCR, inda

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nake ninka wannan noman ƙwayoyin halitta, kamar yadda ake cewa.

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Wannan yana nufin kawai nake ninka kayan.

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Wannan yana sa ya fi sauƙi ga shirin kwamfuta ya
gano ƙwayoyin cuta kuma ya ƙididdige su, a ce.

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Kuma muna sukar duk wannan saboda mun ga cewa idan aka sarrafa
shi yadda ya kamata, kamar yadda ya dace a yi shi

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bisa kimiyya, to muna ƙaryatawa kuma muna musanta
bayanan da masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta suka yi.

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Kuma – duk wannan ya yi kama da abin rikitarwa, don haka kuna iya
buƙatar saurara shi sau ɗaya ko sau biyu ƙari – amma

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yanzu ga mafi sauƙi kuma mafi muhimmanci batu, wanda ya
kamata ya zama gaba ɗaya mai ma'ana ga duk masu kallo.

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Ba tare da la'akari da waɗannan hotuna da ake ci gaba da nuna
mana ba, kuma ba tare da la'akari da gwaje-gwajen kiwon

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ƙwayoyin halitta da tsarin binciken jerin gado ta
kwamfuta ba – gaba ɗaya ba tare da la'akari da duk wannan ba:

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Dukkan gwaje-gwajen yaduwa da aka taɓa gudanarwa
a tarihi, wato haɗa mutane masu lafiya da marasa

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lafiya, ko dabbobi ko mutane, sun gaza. Dukkansu!

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Wannan yana nufin duk lokacin da na yi ƙoƙarin
haɗa marasa lafiya da masu lafiya a cikin gwaji mai

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sarrafawa don tabbatar da yaduwar cuta, ba ya aiki!

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Kuma wannan ma wata ƙaryata ce kai
tsaye ga ilimin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Eh, watakila ba kai tsaye ba. Amma ba za ka
iya cewa ƙwayoyin cuta ba sa haifar da cuta

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ba idan ka ga irin waɗannan kamuwa da cuta.

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Ina nufin, za ka iya ganinsa a cikin aji na makaranta.

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Sa'an nan ɗaya daga cikin yara yana rashin
lafiya, na gaba ma yana rashin lafiya, malamai

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ma suna rashin lafiya, rabin ajin babu kowa.

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Mun sake samun hakan. Ta yaya hakan zai faru?

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Idan aka tabbatar cewa ba kwayoyin cuta ke da hannu ba,
sai dai waɗannan alamun rashin takamaiman da muke yawan

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fama da su, waɗanda ke maimaituwa lokaci bayan lokaci.

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Wannan asibiti ne na al'ada da ke
bayyana. Ta yaya za ka bayyana hakan?

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Eh, idan muka lura da waɗannan
abubuwa, ana samun zato-zaton kimiyya.

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Misali, yanzu su ne ƙwayoyin zarra ko ƙwayoyin cuta ke yaduwa.

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Wannan hasashe ne mai kyau sosai.
Amma idan ka gwada shi, ba ya aiki.

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Don haka muna buƙatar ƙarin ra'ayoyi, ƙarin zato.

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Tabbas, mun yi tunani sosai a kai.

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Idan ba ƙwayoyin cuta ba ne, me zai
iya kasancewa? Ko ƙwayoyin cuta ne?

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Wannan a fili ya kai mu ga abubuwa kamar
gina jiki, tasirin muhalli, guba da

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fuskantar tasirin waje dangane da binciken kimiyya.

15:24.309 --> 15:32.999
Tabbas, ana iya tunanin tushen
radiyasyon, dalilan tunani da damuwa.

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Waɗannan duk su ne dalilai da za a iya tabbatar da
su sosai ta hanyar gwaji, misali a kowace gwaji.

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Zan iya haifar da alamomi ta hanyar abinci kawai.
Zan iya haifar da ciwukan kumburi ta hanyar guba.

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Zan iya haifar da ciwukan kumburi
ta hanyar gwaje-gwajen radiyasyon.

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Zan iya kunna alamomi da kashe su ta danna
maɓalli ɗaya ta amfani da waɗannan canje-canje.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa mun riga mun san abubuwa da
yawa game da alamomi da dama, yadda za mu iya haifar da

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su a cikin gwaje-gwaje, da abin da ke haddasa su, a ce.

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Ba dukansu ba, amma da yawa sosai. Shi ya sa muke cewa ya fi
ma'ana a ci gaba da bincike a wannan fanni kuma a gudanar da

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bincike marar iyaka a can, maimakon mai da
hankali kan wannan batu koyaushe, wanda aka

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ƙaryata shi gaba ɗaya tun daga farko har ƙarshe.

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Wannan ma yana hana ƙarin fahimta, ƙarin bincike, da ƙarin ilimi.

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Wannan ma abu ne da muke matuƙar suka, domin yana
takaita matuƙar hangen nesa na ilimi ga batun da aka ƙaryata.

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Shin na fahimta daidai? Ko ƙwayoyin cuta ko
bakteriya ba su ne ke haifar da kamuwa da cuta ba?

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Haka ne. A cewar kimiyya, idan ka gudanar da waɗannan
gwaje-gwaje da ƙwayoyin cuta ko da abin da kake ikirarin

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ƙwayoyin cuta ne, ba za ka iya tabbatar da kamuwa da cuta ba.

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Amma idan ka yi hakan da ƙwayoyin cuta, waɗanda za ka iya gani a
ƙarƙashin mikroskōp, wato suna wanzu, duk da haka,

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idan muka ware waɗannan ƙwayoyin cuta, ba za mu iya
haifar da kamuwa da cuta a cikin gwaji mai sarrafawa ba.

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Misali: Idan na ɗauki salmonella ko wasu ƙwayoyin cuta da ake
ikirarin su ne ke haifar da wasu alamomi, ba zan iya kamuwa

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da su ko gurbata wani mai rai mai lafiya da su ba. Ba ya aiki.

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Ana lura koyaushe cewa idan wani mai rai ya riga ya kamu da
rashin lafiya ko yana nuna alamun cuta, ƙwayoyin

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cuta ma suna yaduwa a wurin a lokaci guda, a
matsayin tasirin da ke biye, kamar yadda ake cewa.

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Amma wannan, misali, shi ne don yin
kamanceceniya ga mai kallo, kamar gida mai ƙonewa.

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Idan ina ganin gidaje suna ƙonewa, sau da yawa ko kusan
koyaushe nakan lura cewa ma'aikatan kashe gobara ma suna wurin.

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Wannan yana nufin alaƙar, alaƙar tana da matuƙar girma.

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Duk da haka, wannan bai tabbatar cewa masu
kashe gobara ne suka haddasa gobarar ba.

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Suna bayyana ne kawai a lokaci guda da wuta.

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Don haka dole ne ka yi matuƙar taka tsantsan da
ƙananan halittu da ƙwayoyin cuta, ka kuma duba su sosai.

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Kawai saboda suna bayyana tare da
alamomi ba yana nufin su ne suka jawo ba.

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Domin, kamar yadda na fada yanzu, idan na ware
su kuma na ba wa mutum mai lafiya wanda ba ya

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rashin lafiya kwayoyin cuta, babu abin da zai faru.

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Kuma wannan a zahiri shi ne ƙaryataccen hujja cewa babu
wata cuta ko kamuwa ta kwayoyin halitta kamar bakteriya.

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Amma hakan ma ya haɗa da ƙwari masu
tsotse jini da tsutsotsi. A can ma ba ya aiki.

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Ba za ka iya kamuwa da lafiyayyun mutane ta haka ba. Ba ya aiki.

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Eh, amma mu koma kan wannan yanayin a cikin aji.

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Ba duk yara ke cin abinci iri ɗaya ba. Ba
dukansu ke da yanayin rayuwa daidai ɗaya ba.

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Ta yaya, don haka, dukansu suka sami irin waɗannan alamomi?

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Don haka, idan muka ce muna da
alamomi makamantan juna a cikin aji:

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Da farko, wannan ba koyaushe yake
shafar dukkan yara ba, sai kaɗan ne kawai.

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Kuma dole ne mu nemi abin da muka yi
daidai a kai. Yara duk suna cikin ɗaki ɗaya.

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Dukansu suna da darussa iri ɗaya.

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Dukkansu suna fuskantar irin yanayin muhalli ɗaya.

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Dukkansu suna fuskantar irin
yanayin muhalli ɗaya a cikin wannan ɗaki.

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Kuma hakan na iya zama isassun canje-canje ko
hujjoji, waɗanda tabbas za a yi gwaji a kansu cikin hikima.

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Wannan zai kasance mataki na biyu.
Amma ba mu ƙaranci zato ba. Daidai.

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Amma idan ka ce ba a tabbatar da wanzuwar waɗannan ƙwayoyin cuta
masu haifar da cututtuka ba kuma kimiyya a zahiri ba

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ta san abin da take yi ko abin da take nema ba, to
yaya amfanin matakan rigakafi kamar alluran rigakafi?

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Eh, za su iya zama masu amfani ba tare da hujjar kasancewar
ƙwayoyin cuta ba idan sun nuna fa'ida a wani gwaji mai ma'ana.

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Don haka, ko da kuwa ƙwayoyin cuta suna wanzu
ko ba su wanzu, allurar rigakafi na iya aiki.

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Amma ba haka abin ke faruwa ba idan
aka yi gwaje-gwaje da alluran rigakafi.

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Da farko, mafi yawan binciken alluran
rigakafi ma ba sa bin ƙa'idodin kimiyya.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa muna da aƙalla ƙungiyoyi biyu.

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Wani yana karɓar allurar rigakafi,
wani kuma yana karɓar placebo mai dacewa.

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Sannan sai a duba hoton likitanci na tsantsa.

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Haka lamarin yake da coronavirus,
misali, game da alluran rigakafin coronavirus.

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An yi taka tsantsan don haɗa ƙungiyar placebo.

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An ba ta ruwan saline, wanda da
kansa ba zai zama placebo mai dacewa ba.

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Saboda a cikin placebo a matsayin kyakkyawan iko mara
amfani, ya kamata ya bambanta da sinadarin aiki ne kawai a cikin

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wani guda ɗaya, domin a iya lura da wannan guda ɗaya kawai.

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A wannan yanayin, zai kasance wannan sashin ƙwayoyin cuta ne.

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Maganin gishiri ya bambanta da ainihin allurar
rigakafi a cikin daruruwan bambance-bambance.

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Amma wannan wata magana gaba ɗaya ce.

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Me aka yi a cikin waɗannan nazarin cutar coronavirus don
alluran rigakafin coronavirus? Misali, na BioNTech-Pfizer?

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Daga baya sai aka yi wa mutane gwaji
ne kawai ta amfani da gwaje-gwajen PCR.

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Duk da haka, idan ka karanta ƙananan rubutun
binciken, adadin mutanen da suka kamu da

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rashin lafiya a cikin kowanne rukuni ya yi daidai.

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A cikin waɗannan nazarin, ana kiran
wannan "shakku-shakku na Covid-19".

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Wannan yana nufin cewa kusan adadin
mutane iri ɗaya ne suka kamu da rashin lafiya.

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Ba zai yiwu a bambance komai a ainihin asibitin ba.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa allurar rigakafin ba ta yi wani tasiri
na asibiti ba kwata-kwata. Kawai gwajin PCR ne ya nuna bambanci.

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Kuma a can ma, muna sukar alluran rigakafi.

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Ba a tabbatar da su ta hanyar kimiyya a matsayin masu tasiri wajen
yakar cututtuka. Kuma don ƙara wa hakan, kamar yadda ake cewa:

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Idan ka duba masassara da ciwon kuka, ko wasu cututtuka da ke da
alaƙa da rigakafi, inda maganin gargajiya ke jayayya cewa

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rigakafi ya kawar da waɗannan cututtuka, za ka ga cewa tun daɗe
kafin a fara yin rigakafi, ƙididdiga sun nuna cewa yawan waɗannan

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cututtuka ya riga ya fara raguwa, kuma hakika yana raguwa sosai.

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A wasu lokuta, kamar cutar taru, yawan kamuwa da cutar ya ragu
har zuwa kashi 95 cikin ɗari a Jamus kafin a fara yin rigakafi.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa cutar ta riga
ta ɓace kafin a fara yin rigakafi.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa ba za a iya fitar
da kowanne tasiri daga wannan bayanin ba.

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Shi ya sa muke sukar alluran rigakafi kamar
yadda muke sukar ilimin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Kuma, a gefe guda, ana kuma ɗaukar mafi yawan sauran
magunguna a matsayin marasa tasiri kuma marasa amfani.

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Amma hakan ya yi kama da zamba.

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A ra'ayinka, shin duk masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta da masu
binciken kiwon lafiya masu zamba ne kuma mutane masu mugunta?

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A'a, ba kwata-kwata. Muna koyaushe dole
mu yi la'akari da bangaren ɗan adam ma.

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Saboda waɗannan mutane sun sadaukar da duk
rayuwarsu ga wannan batu, ga wannan bincike.

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Suna da son rai, kamar yadda ake cewa a Turanci, ko kuma suna da
nuna wariya, suna da ra'ayi mai karkacewa, ba za su iya tunani

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a fili ba, kuma sau da yawa dukan rayuwarsu ta dogara da hakan.

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Wannan yana nufin suna da iyalai, suna da yara da
sauransu, kuma watakila ba za su iya samun damar yin suka ba.

23:10.009 --> 23:14.783
Kullum dole ne ka yi la'akari da hakan; ba
shi da atomatik ke sanya mutane su zama miyagu.

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Ana iya zargin yawancin masana
cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta da jahilci.

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Saboda suna ƙin karɓar tayinmu na yin magana a koda yaushe.

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Wani lokaci muna samun amsoshi ga tambayoyin da muka
rubuta, amma ba koyaushe ba, kuma yana da matuƙar

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wahala mu shiga muhawara ta kimiyya mai adalci a can.

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Tabbas za ka iya zargin su da hakan, amma ba zan
tafi har in ce duk likitoci ko duk masana cututtukan

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ƙwayoyin cuta da sauransu suna yin hakan da gangan ba.

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Yafi kama da irin kariyar kai,
kuma wata jahilci ce game da batun.

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Duk da haka, masu goyon bayan ka'idar ƙwayar cuta suna jayayya
cewa cututtukan kamuwa da cuta sun fara raguwa ne kawai bayan an

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gabatar da tsaftar muhalli, misali ta Ignaz Semmelweis a fannin
likitancin mata da Robert Koch ta hanyar ka'idar ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Kuma ko ba ka sa waɗannan nasarorin
haɗari na sake rushewa ba da maganganunka?

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Dole ne koyaushe ka bambance. Matakai kamar ingantaccen tsaftar
jiki tabbas na iya yin tasiri, misali, saboda kawai na bari

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ƙananan abubuwa na waje shiga cikin raunina ko cikin jikina.

24:21.955 --> 24:26.447
Tabbas, jiki yana amsawa ga datti na waje, zan ce, da kumburi.

24:26.447 --> 24:28.884
Wannan ya bayyana sosai, kuma hakan ya dace.

24:28.884 --> 24:31.798
Amma hakan ba lallai yana da alaƙa da ƙwayoyin cuta ba.

24:31.798 --> 24:38.043
A cikin ilimin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta, maganar
tana da matuƙar bayyane: akwai ƙananan ƙwayoyi da ke

24:38.043 --> 24:41.415
haifar da cututtuka, waɗanda su ne sanadiyyar su.

24:41.415 --> 24:46.548
Kuma dole ne in tabbatar da hakan ta hanyar
kimiyya. Ba zan iya kawai barin shi a haka ba.

24:46.548 --> 24:52.718
Tabbas, tsaftar muhalli ta inganta yanayi.
Duk da haka, hakan na da manyan iyakoki.

24:52.718 --> 24:58.403
Alal misali, a lokacin annobar coronavirus, an
gudanar da bincike da yawa, kamar yadda aka

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yi da mura, inda aka yi nazari kan rukuni biyu.

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Ɗaya ya aiwatar da matakan tsafta, ɗayan bai yi ba.

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Ko ɗaya ya yi amfani da maski, ɗayan kuma bai yi ba.

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Kuma a cikin duk waɗannan binciken gwaje-gwaje na kimiyya (RCT)
da ake kira ma'aunin zinariya, inda ake da rukuni biyu

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kuma abu ɗaya kawai ne ya bambanta, za a ga cewa matakan
tsaftar muhalli da kuma maski ba su yi wani tasiri ba.

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Duk ƙungiyoyin biyu koyaushe suna da
adadin marasa lafiya masu alamun cuta iri ɗaya.

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Don haka babu wani bambanci mai muhimmanci a
kididdiga. Kuma hakan ma ya ƙaryata wannan zato.

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Duk da haka, tabbas ana ba da shawarar yin tsafta
yanzu idan akwai raunuka a buɗe, kamar yadda na ambata.

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Domin jiki yana cikin koshin lafiya ne kawai idan babu
wani abu na waje a cikin nama. Wannan ya bayyana sosai.

25:48.116 --> 25:51.085
Kuma daga baya, a tarihi, an kuma yi irin
waɗannan manyan yunƙurin kamuwa da cuta.

25:51.085 --> 25:54.968
Tsakanin yaƙe-yaƙen duniya, a lokacin yaƙe-yaƙen duniya.

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Ko hakan bai kai ga ƙarshe ba cewa, ban da
ƙwayoyin cuta, akwai wasu hanyoyin haifar da cuta

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da za a iya bibiyar su zuwa waɗannan ƙwayoyin?

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To, a zahiri an yi yunƙura da yawa na kamuwa da cuta a tarihi.

26:13.820 --> 26:20.179
A lokacin annobar mura ta Spain, eh, amma daga baya ma da
taru da sauran cututtuka da dama, ciki har da mura da sauransu.

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Kuma na riga na ambata a farko cewa koyaushe suna kasa.

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Don haka ba za ka taɓa iya tabbatar da cewa za ka iya kamuwa da
mutane a cikin tsari mai sarrafawa ba. Ba koyaushe yake aiki ba.

26:31.039 --> 26:36.390
Kuma a wannan lokaci, a kalla, ya kamata mutum ya fara
yin tunani da la'akari cewa wani abu ba daidai ba ne.

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Likitoci ko ma'aikatan bincike da ke cikin waɗannan nazarin,
tabbas koyaushe suna mamakin wannan. Kai, yaya hakan zai yiwu?

26:41.929 --> 26:51.242
A nan, muna ƙoƙarin amfani da cututtuka mafi saurin yaduwa
a gwaji, amma ba ta taba aiki ba. Ta yaya hakan zai yiwu?

26:51.242 --> 26:57.756
Sa'an nan, tabbas, hujjoji irin su "Eh, watakila ba a
taɓa taruwar ƙwayoyin cuta sosai ba, ko watakila

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waɗannan masu gwaji sun riga sun sami kariya" sukan taso.

27:02.429 --> 27:05.359
Duk waɗannan hasashe ne masu kyau, babu wata shakka a kai.

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Gaskiya ita ce, duk da haka, ba mu taɓa samun
nasarar tabbatar da kamuwa da cuta a cikin wani gwaji ba.

27:11.093 --> 27:17.015
Kuma dole ne ka bar shi ya nutse a zuciyarka da
farko, ka fahimce shi da farko, kuma ka gane shi da farko.

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Kuma hakan ya ƙaryata ikirarin cewa muna da kowace irin cuta
a nan kwata-kwata, kuma cewa yana aiki ta waɗannan ƙwayoyin.

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Za ka iya ganin hakan a cikin waɗannan nazarin maski.

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Idan, misali, an sa maskin FFP2 a zahiri, ko kuma
idan ƙwayoyin cuta suna wanzu, to dole ne a sami tasiri.

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Ko kuma takunkumin tsafta ya kamata ya yi tasiri, amma baya yi.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa muna da ƙaryatawa ga ilimin cututtukan
ƙwayoyin cuta a fannoni da dama da gwaje-gwaje daban-daban.

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Tabbas, yanzu za a iya ƙoƙarin ci gaba da rayar da shi da duk
ƙarfi da dukiyoyi, kuma a zahiri ana yin hakan, domin abubuwa

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da yawa suna dogara da shi: babban ɓangare na masana'antu,
babban yawan mu'amalar tattalin arziki, kuɗi, da sauransu.

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Za a iya tunanin cewa idan wannan ya fara
rushewa, za a samu girgizar ƙasa mai ƙarfi,

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kuma tabbas mutum zai so ya guje wa hakan.

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Kuma muna so kawai mu nuna ta hanyar kimiyya da gaskiya cewa
akwai matsaloli masu girma da karo-karu masu yawa

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idan ka duba kimiyyar da ke nan, kuma wannan abu ne
da ba za ka iya karɓa ba a matsayin masanin kimiyya.

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A matsayin masanin kimiyya mai
nazari, ba za a iya yarda da wannan ba.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa tushe-tushen ba su dace
ba, don haka wannan ka'idar ba za a iya karɓa ba.

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Shin ka karanta waɗannan tushe-tushen da kanka?

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Daidai ne, a Next Level, kamar yadda na ambata yanzu, mun
kasance cikin mu'amala da wasiƙu da daruruwan cibiyoyi,

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fiye da 200 a zahiri, tare da masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Mun gudanar da hirarraki kuma mun aika tambayoyi zuwa
Cibiyar Robert Koch da sauran dukkan cibiyoyi a

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duniya baki ɗaya da ke da wani abin rahoto a wannan fanni.

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Kuma kowa ya tabbatar cewa babu kowane na'urar gwaji mara kyau a
cikin samfuran lafiya, cewa babu kowane na'urar gwaji mara kyau

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kwata-kwata a cikin jerin gado. Don haka ba su nan gaba ɗaya.

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Gaskiyar cewa ba a gudanar da gwaje-gwajen kamuwa
da cuta ba, misali saboda dalilan ɗabi'a, hujja ce

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marar tushe da ake amfani da ita wajen kare kansa.

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Za ka iya yin abu iri ɗaya da dabbobi, kamar yadda kake
yi koyaushe da alluran rigakafi da sauran magunguna, amma

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abin mamaki ana amfani da ɗabi'a a matsayin hujja a nan.

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Don haka kawai kana ƙoƙarin kare kanka daga waɗannan
karo-karoshin, kuma mai lura sosai ko ma mutum mai tunanin

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kimiyya zai gaggauta lura cewa akwai manyan matsaloli a cikin
hujjojin kimiyya da kuma a cikin dangantakar sanadi da sakamako.

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Kuma don komawa ga waɗannan hotuna anan, zuwa waɗannan tsaruka.

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Akwai babban aiki na Karlheinz Lüdtke
daga Cibiyar Max Planck ta Tarihin Kimiyya.

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Ya yi nazari kan tarihin farko na ilimin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta
kuma ya kuma kai ga ƙarshe cewa waɗannan hotuna suna haifar da

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matsaloli masu yawa, domin ba hotunan gani daga ma'ikiraɓi ba ne
kamar yadda muka sani, a zahiri kuwa ba hotuna ne kwata-kwata.

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Anan ana amfani da mikroskopin lantarki.

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Samfuran da aka sanya a cikin wannan mikroskopen
lantarki, a cikin ɗakin fanko, dole ne a kula da su sosai.

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Misali, dole ne a rufe su da ƙarfe domin su iya
gudanar da wutar lantarki, sannan a daskare su ko a daure

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su tsakanin faranti biyu na gilashi da resin epoxy.

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Wannan babban matsin lamba ne a kan wannan nama, wanda
tuni yake ƙara masa nauyi kuma zai iya haifar da canje-canje.

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Karlheinz Lüdtke daga Cibiyar Max Planck ya kuma
lura cewa akwai matsaloli masu girma sosai, cewa

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abubuwan kirkira suna faruwa – haka ake kiran su a kimiyya.

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Abubuwan samarwa sune kawai sakamako ko tsaruka
da suka samo asali ne kawai saboda yanayin gwaji.

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Kuma waɗannan ba hotuna ba ne; su ne wutar
lantarki da kwamfuta ta mayar, sannan a taƙaice

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a matsayin lissafi a juya su zuwa hoto, a ce.

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Kuma wannan wata matsala ce. Wannan yana
nufin cewa, a mafi kyawun yanayi, muna mu'amala da

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shaida ta kaikaice, amma ba ta kai tsaye ba.

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Shaidar kai tsaye ita ce: ina da mutum mai rashin
lafiya, ina da mutum mai lafiya, na haɗa su, sai mutumin da ba

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shi da lafiya ya kamu da cuta, ya kamu da rashin lafiya.

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Ina ɗaukar majina ko ƙurar hanci daga mutum mai
rashin lafiya, in ba wa mutum mai lafiya

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wannan ƙurar, sai mutumin ya kamu da rashin lafiya.

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Wannan zai kasance hujja ta kai tsaye. Wannan ba ya
faruwa a fannin nazarin cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Idan ka yi haka, ba zai yi aiki ba. Kuma
wannan shi ne babban suka game da dukkan batun.

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Don haka mu taƙaita sakamakon.

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Kimiyya da bincike za su yi kyau su
ci gaba da barin tattaunawa a buɗe.

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Domin zai yiwu muna aiki ƙarƙashin kuskuren
fahimta na asali, watakila ba wai a fannin kimiyyar

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ƙwayoyin cuta kaɗai ba, har ma a wasu fannoni.

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Kuma hakan, kamar yadda ka nuna, zai karya
ka'idojin kimiyya. Eh, a ƙarshe zai sa ta zama ba ma'ana.

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Kuma hakan, tabbas, zai zama wani hali da ba ma son mu
tsinci kanmu a ciki, inda muke komawa ga zamanin duhu

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lokacin da ba za a iya tabbatar da abubuwa ba gaba ɗaya.

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Mista Haberland, na gode da tattaunawarka da mu.

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Ina sha'awar jin abin da masu sauraro za su ce game da wannan.

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Kla.TV na gabatar da muryoyin adawa marasa
tsangwama domin mu gane abin da gaskiya ne. Na gode ƙwarai.

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Eh, na gode da wannan dama ma. Ina
ganin yana da matuƙar muhimmanci.

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Tabbas da yawa daga cikin masu kallo sun taɓa jin wani abu
game da wannan batu, amma mafi yawansu ba su taɓa jin komai ba.

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Kuma kamar yadda na riga na fada, yana da matuƙar
wahala a yi magana game da wannan batu a bainar jama'a.

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A gaskiya, duk inda ka je za a ƙi ka ne
kawai idan kana son magana game da wannan batu.

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Don haka, zai yi daidai a ce ana
ƙoƙarin hana yada wannan bayanin.

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Kuma ina gayyatar masu kallo su tabbatar da duk abin da
na fada a shafin yanar gizonmu wissen-neu-gedacht.de.

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Mun bayyana wallafe-wallafe da dama tare da duk wasiku,
duk majiyoyi, da kuma shari'o'i da dama a wannan fanni.

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Kuma eh, muna da manhaja ma, Nexiqa, , inda za ka iya bincika duk
waɗannan batutuwa ta hanyar amfani da tsarin tambaya da

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amsa na ChatGPT, sannan ka karanta duk waɗannan
wallafe-wallafen kimiyyar ƙwayoyin cuta tare da taimako, a ce.

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Ta yaya zan gane daga wallafar cewa an yi watsi
da kimiyya, an take ta, ko ma a cikin mu'amala

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da masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta da sauransu?

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Don haka za ka sami bayanai da yawa a can.

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To shikenan, sai ya rage ga masu kallo su duba gaskiyar
al'amura da kansu su yi muku tambayoyi. Na gode ƙwarai.

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Na gode ma.
