WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.480 Kla.TV: Dr Haug, na gode ƙwarai da ɗaukar lokaci don yin magana da mu a yau. 00:06.480 --> 00:15.673 Kai ne marubucin littafin Das Deutsche Reich 1871 bis heute (Daular Jamus daga 1871 zuwa yau). Zuwa yau? 00:15.673 --> 00:25.288 Dr Haug, akwai babban cece-kuce game da ikirarin cewa Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus ba ƙasa ba ce, cewa tana da Dokar Asali kawai amma 00:25.288 --> 00:32.980 ba ita ce kundin tsarin mulki ba, cewa ba ta da yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya, cewa ba ta da iyakoki na ƙasa 00:32.980 --> 00:38.406 da aka fayyace, kuma cewa ba ta da cikakken 'yanci. 00:38.406 --> 00:42.720 Jamusawa ma ba su da ƙasa. 00:42.720 --> 00:51.199 A matsayin murya mai sabawa labarin da ake yawan yadawa, don Allah ka bayyana wa masu kallo a taƙaice kuma a sarari ra'ayinka 00:51.199 --> 00:58.456 game da abin da ci gaba da wanzuwar German Reich ke nufi a ganinka, da kuma yadda waɗannan batutuwan da ake 00:58.456 --> 01:07.936 jayayya a kansu kuma ake yawan tattaunawa suke da alaƙa da ci gaba da wanzuwar German Reich, kamar yadda ka fahimta. 01:07.936 --> 01:10.800 Matthes Haug: Da farko, na gode ƙwarai da gayyata, Mista Matten. 01:10.800 --> 01:20.421 Eh, na rubuta littafin "1871 zuwa Yau", saboda Daular Jamus an kafa ta a shekarar 1871 a Dakin Madubai 01:20.421 --> 01:25.540 na Versailles karkashin Bismarck da Sarkin Wilhelm I. 01:25.540 --> 01:33.833 An ba shi izini, an amince da shi ta jihohi 46, wakilan su kuwa suna wurin, kuma suka amince da shi, wato Daular Jamus. 01:33.833 --> 01:39.273 Kuma ba a taba rushe Daular Jamus ba. 01:39.273 --> 01:51.038 Ba za a iya rushe shi kwata-kwata ba, domin hakan zai buƙaci dokoki da aka kuma sanya a cikin kundin tsarin mulki na 1871, da 01:51.038 --> 01:56.993 ƙa'idoji kan yadda, misali, ake iya rushe kundin tsarin mulki. 01:56.993 --> 02:00.340 Ba a taba rushe wannan kundin tsarin mulki ba. 02:00.340 --> 02:07.500 Sa'an nan ya biyo Yakin Duniya na Farko, kuma bayan haka, a gaskiya, kawai wata dakatarwar yaki ce. 02:07.500 --> 02:13.186 Ba a taɓa samun yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ta gaskiya ba. Yarjejeniyar Versailles ba yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ba ce. 02:13.186 --> 02:19.891 Don haka sulhu ne kawai. Kuma haka, Daular Jamus tana nan har zuwa yau. 02:19.891 --> 02:29.685 Kada a rikita shi da Third Reich. Ana yawan rikita su biyun. Third Reich da Daular Jamus ta 1871 ba su da alaƙa da juna. 02:29.685 --> 02:40.959 A maimakon haka, ana iya bibiyar shi gaba ɗaya zuwa wannan daular, wadda har yanzu take nan ba tare da jin kunya ba har zuwa yau. 02:40.959 --> 02:48.480 Kla.TV: A ra'ayinka, menene damar da sakamakon da suka biyo baya daga gaskiyar cewa Jamus Reich har yanzu yana nan har zuwa yau? 02:48.480 --> 02:53.740 Shin akwai wasu damar musamman ga 'yan ƙasa wajen tsara makoma? 02:53.740 --> 03:01.952 MH: Akwai matuƙar yiwuwar. Kuma daga mahangar doka kawai, wannan ba ra'ayi na ba ne, amma lamari ne na gaskiyar doka. 03:01.952 --> 03:08.799 Don haka, daga mahangar doka kawai, kundin tsarin mulki na 1871 ma yana aiki. 03:08.799 --> 03:18.906 Domin wannan Daular Jamus har yanzu, a ka'ida, tana cikin yanayin yaki a yau. Sai dai kawai tana cikin yanayin dakatar da yaki. 03:18.906 --> 03:22.940 Kuma wannan Daular Jamus kadai ce za ta iya sake sanya hannu kan yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 03:22.940 --> 03:25.833 Jamhuriyar Tarayya ba ta ma wanzu a wancan lokacin. 03:25.833 --> 03:34.680 A takaice, an kafa shi ne kawai a ranar 3 ga Janairu, 1950, bayan an aika wasiƙar amincewa ta ƙarshe ga Birtaniya. 03:34.680 --> 03:36.820 Don haka, mutum zai yi tunanin an kafa shi a shekarar 1949. 03:36.820 --> 03:41.373 Na yi bincike sosai kan duk wannan kuma na gabatar da shi daidai sosai. 03:41.373 --> 03:46.880 Ni kullum ina sha'awar gaskiya kawai, babu wani abu daban. A wannan fanni, ni masanin kimiyya ne isasshe. 03:46.880 --> 03:53.539 Saboda haka, Jamhuriyar Tarayya ba a kafa ta ba sai 3 ga Janairu, 1950. 03:53.539 --> 03:57.787 Saboda haka ba zai yiwu a sanya hannu kan yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ba, domin Jamhuriyar 03:57.787 --> 04:00.226 Tarayyar Jamus ba ta taɓa zama makiyi a yakin ba. 04:00.226 --> 04:06.060 Kuma dole ne a kulla yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya bayan yaƙi. 04:06.060 --> 04:12.273 Kuma wannan yana buƙatar wakilai na gaskiya na Daular Jamus. 04:12.273 --> 04:20.626 Kla.TV: Kuma waɗannan wakilai na gaskiya ba su ma halarci waɗannan tattaunawar zaman lafiya ba. 04:20.626 --> 04:27.080 Akwai abin da ake kira yarjejeniyar 2 da 4. Shin duk abin ya zama babu amfani, kamar yadda suke cewa? 04:27.080 --> 04:31.060 MH: A Jamusanci, "für den Katz" ba ya nufin "don mage". 04:31.060 --> 04:34.306 To, wannan wata matsala ce daban. 04:34.306 --> 04:39.486 Ba a taɓa samun wakilan yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ba. 04:39.486 --> 04:43.473 Wannan zai kasance Sarkin Masarautar William na I ko na II. 04:43.473 --> 04:48.100 An gaje na farko ne William na biyu. 04:48.100 --> 04:51.980 Don haka hakan zai iya zama wakili na gaskiya. 04:51.980 --> 04:56.766 Duk da haka, sai ya tafi cikin banzan ƙasa, don haka bai sake nan kuma ba a iya samunsa. 04:56.766 --> 05:04.249 An sanar da Jamhuriyar Weimar kawai a sabawa kundin tsarin mulki na 1871 da ke aiki. Wannan ba zai yiwu a 05:04.249 --> 05:08.693 ƙarƙashin dokar ƙasa da ƙasa da dokar kundin tsarin mulki ba. 05:08.693 --> 05:14.980 Wannan yana nufin cewa babu wani wakili na gaskiya na Daular Jamus ta 1871. 05:14.980 --> 05:21.998 Waɗannan 'yan siyasa ne marasa muhimmanci da mutanen da ba su da wata izini kwata-kwata don sanya hannu kan 05:21.998 --> 05:25.893 yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ta Daular Jamus a shekarar 1871. 05:25.893 --> 05:32.053 Suka tattauna, kuma yanzu za mu yi gajeren karkacewa kan Yarjejeniyar Biyu da Hudu. 05:32.053 --> 05:35.480 A takaice, ana kiran shi Yarjejeniyar Hudu da Biyu. Wannan shi ne yadda abokan gaba ke kiran ta. 05:35.480 --> 05:40.704 Don haka, abokan haɗin gwiwa huɗu, Tarayyar Soviet, Ingila, Faransa da Amurka, da 05:40.704 --> 05:44.919 Jamus ta Tarayya (FRG) da Jamus ta Gabas (GDR). 05:44.919 --> 05:52.012 An yi niyyar waɗannan su kafa Jamus ɗaya ƙarƙashin wannan yarjejeniya. Wannan za a iya amincewa da shi. 05:52.012 --> 05:55.239 A cikin wannan ma'ana, ba a taɓa samun Jamus ɗaya ba. 05:55.239 --> 06:00.340 Domin Jamus ɗaya na nufin dukkan Jamus kamar yadda take a shekarar 1871. 06:00.340 --> 06:02.100 Wannan cikakkiyar haɗin kai ce. 06:02.100 --> 06:06.900 An raba Jamus zuwa sassa uku bayan Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu. 06:06.900 --> 06:12.182 Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus, sannan Jamhuriyar Dimokradiyyar Jamus, ko Tsakiyar Jamus daidai. 06:12.182 --> 06:15.040 Kuma yankunan da Jamus ta Gabas ke mulki ta Poland. 06:15.040 --> 06:17.900 Kuma har zuwa yau babu abin da ya canza a wannan fanni. 06:17.900 --> 06:24.598 Saboda haka, ba za a iya kafa Jamus ɗaya ba ta hanyar Jamus ta Yamma da ɗaya daga cikin 06:24.598 --> 06:28.846 waɗannan sassa uku, ko ma da yawa daga cikinsu. 06:28.846 --> 06:32.591 Saboda haka mutane kullum suna cewa wannan Yarjejeniyar Hudu da Biyu, da Yarjejeniyar Biyu da Hudu, za 06:32.591 --> 06:34.853 ta kasance wata yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ta kusan. 06:34.853 --> 06:40.416 Babu abin da ake kira yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya ta kusan. An bayyana shi a fili a matsayin yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 06:40.416 --> 06:46.380 A ƙarshe, ba a taɓa amincewa da wannan yarjejeniya ba ta dukkan ɓangarorin da suka sanya hannu. 06:46.380 --> 06:49.620 Ta Rasha kadai. Wanda abin sha'awa ne sosai. 06:49.620 --> 06:52.893 Rasha kaɗai ce ta amince da wannan yarjejeniya. 06:52.893 --> 06:57.848 Kuma Genscher, wanda a lokacin yake Sakataren Harkokin Waje na Jamhuriyar Tarayyar 06:57.848 --> 07:00.773 Jamus, bai tabbatar da shi ba bisa ga ƙa'idoji. 07:00.773 --> 07:06.313 Dole ne ka sanya hannu a nan cikakke, kamar yadda ya yi a kan babban kwangila. 07:06.313 --> 07:11.873 Da aka kai ga tabbatarwa, sai kawai ya sanya haruffan sunansa. Babu sunan farko, babu komai. 07:11.873 --> 07:15.680 Kuma idan aka faɗi daidai, hakan ya saba wa ƙa'idoji. 07:15.680 --> 07:23.200 Don haka ba a taɓa amincewa da wannan yarjejeniyar bisa doka ba. Shi ne abin da ya fi muhimmanci. 07:23.200 --> 07:33.460 Kla.TV: Dr Haug, idan na fahimce ka daidai, kundin tsarin mulki na 1871 har yanzu yana aiki a yau. 07:33.460 --> 07:37.632 To mene ne Dokar Asali? Me take da muhimmanci? 07:37.632 --> 07:44.000 MH: Dokar Asali ta dogara ne kan Yarjejeniyar Hague. Wannan doka ce ta ƙasa da ƙasa. Tana 07:44.000 --> 07:47.880 tsara yanayin yaki da halin da ake ciki bayan yaki. 07:47.880 --> 07:53.353 Kla.TV: Me HLKO ke nufi? MH: Yarjejeniyar Hague kan Yaki a Kasa. 07:53.353 --> 07:59.786 Shin mai gida dole ne ya samar wa masu zama kundin tsarin gida? 07:59.786 --> 08:05.420 Don kiyaye oda, ladabi da zaman lafiya. Haka ake ayyana shi. 08:05.420 --> 08:12.793 Shi ya sa ake kiransa Dokar Asali ta Jamhuriyar Tarayya ta Jamus, ba Dokar Asali ta Jamhuriyar Tarayya ta Jamus ba. 08:12.793 --> 08:17.966 To, wannan hakkin mai zama ne. Gajeriyar labari. 08:17.966 --> 08:23.820 Babana ya san Carlo Schmidt, wanda ake kira ɗaya daga cikin masu kafa Dokar Asali. 08:23.820 --> 08:27.813 Shi tsohon mutum ne a ƙungiyar ɗan uwantaka ta mahaifina. 08:27.813 --> 08:31.579 Kuma, har yanzu yana ɗan cike da murna daga bukukuwan, sai ya bari wasu asirai su fito fili. 08:31.579 --> 08:38.020 Ya ce, ka sani, an ba mu izinin ƙara ƙarshe. Sauran kuwa an riga an tsara tun farko. 08:38.020 --> 08:44.400 Abokan Haɗin Gwiwa tabbas suna son tsara wannan kundin tsarin mulki bisa ga muradunsu. Wannan abu ne a bayyane. 08:44.400 --> 08:51.320 To, wannan shi ne bayani kai tsaye na Carlo Schmidt game da mahaifina a matsayin shaida. 08:51.320 --> 09:00.333 Kuma har yanzu ana bayyana a cikin Sashe na 120 na Dokar Asali cewa gwamnatin tarayya ce ke biyan 09:00.333 --> 09:05.273 kuɗin mamaye. Wato, a cikin sigar yanzu ta 2025. 09:05.273 --> 09:11.420 Wannan yana nufin cewa idan dole ne ku biya kuɗin haya, mu ma tabbas muna da aikin yi. 09:11.420 --> 09:13.984 Ba mu da kundin tsarin mulki. 09:13.984 --> 09:22.411 Domin, bisa ga ƙa'idodin dokar ƙasa da ƙasa, cikakkiyar ƙasa tana da al'umma, iyakokin 09:22.411 --> 09:27.136 ƙasa, hukumomin ƙasa da kundin tsarin mulki. 09:27.136 --> 09:33.127 A cewar magana ta gaskiya, Jamhuriyar Tarayya ba ta cika kowane ɗayan waɗannan abubuwa uku ba. Ba ƙasa ba 09:33.127 --> 09:36.520 ce, domin duk 'yan ƙasarta 'yan ƙasar Jamus na Reich ne. 09:36.520 --> 09:39.780 Waɗanda za su iya tabbatar da wannan ta hanyar asalin kakanninsu. 09:39.780 --> 09:45.977 Don haka Jamhuriyar Tarayya kanta ba ta da dokar zama ɗan ƙasa mai inganci. 09:45.977 --> 09:55.813 Kuma iyakokin ƙasa ba su wanzu. Domin iyakokin ƙasa na gaskiya an kafa su ne ta Daular Jamus a shekarar 1871. 09:55.813 --> 10:04.240 Don haka Jamhuriyar Tarayya ta kafa a matsayin tsarin gudanarwa, wani yanki na tattalin arziki. Ta hannun ikon mamaye. 10:04.240 --> 10:09.540 Kuma mai mamaye ba shi da hakkin kakaba masa sabon jiha. 10:09.540 --> 10:15.328 Don haka, daga hangen dokar ƙasa da ƙasa, Daular Jamus ta shekarar 1871 ba ta canza ba. 10:15.328 --> 10:24.193 Kla.TV: Don haka, idan na fahimce ka daidai, Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus ba komai ba ce illa tsarin gudanarwa da aka kafa, mu ce, 10:24.193 --> 10:29.260 ta hannun ƙasashen da suka yi nasara, domin kiyaye tsarin jama'a. 10:29.260 --> 10:31.499 Wannan ya kai ni ga tambayata ta gaba. 10:31.499 --> 10:39.080 Saboda masu duba gaskiya da ake kira sau da yawa suna jayayya cewa dole ne jiha da hukumominta su zama kamfanoni. 10:39.080 --> 10:43.636 Ana yawan cewa Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus kamfani ne mai iyaka ko wani abu makamancin 10:43.636 --> 10:46.048 haka, wata korporasiya ce. Domin ta iya yin aiki. 10:46.048 --> 10:55.270 Don kada a sami asarar 'yanci ko ikon jiha da ke tattare da shi. Don kada a sami wata asara. 10:55.270 --> 11:06.200 Amma yaya kake kallonsa? Shin wannan yanzu, wannan abu da mu a asali kawai, mu ce, kamfani ne, kuma muna da katin 11:06.200 --> 11:12.125 shaida, shin hakan wata alama ce ta wannan tsarin gudanarwa? 11:12.125 --> 11:17.054 Kuma cewa mu ba mu kasance ƙasa ta gaske ba, cewa Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus ba ƙasa ta gaske ba 11:17.054 --> 11:20.100 kwata-kwata, sai dai kawai wata raka'a ta gudanarwa ce? 11:20.100 --> 11:21.920 Shin wannan alama ce ta wannan? 11:21.920 --> 11:26.000 MH: Wannan tabbas alama ce na hakan. 11:26.000 --> 11:34.387 A wancan lokacin, a shekarar 1990, a lokacin abin da ake kira haɗin kai wanda bai faru ba, Ministan Harkokin Waje na Amurka da 11:34.387 --> 11:41.776 na Jamus, wato na Tarayyar Soviet, sun yi amfani da haƙƙinsu na kawance na yin tanadi kuma sun goge Dokar Asali 11:41.776 --> 11:48.460 ba tare da maye gurbinsa ba, suna goge fadin aikace-aikacen ta, Muka 23, inda aka fayyace hakan. 11:48.460 --> 11:52.620 Kowane doka na buƙatar a fayyace iyakokin aikace-aikacenta. 11:52.620 --> 11:59.400 GDR ta na da kundin tsarin mulki. Kuma an yanke shi a gefe ɗaya, kamar ana soke fasfo. 11:59.400 --> 12:07.311 Wannan yana nufin cewa tun daga wannan lokaci, 18 ga Yuli 1990, lokacin da hakan ya faru, ko daidai a ranar 17 ga Yuli 12:07.311 --> 12:15.080 1990, a ranar 18 ga Yuli 1990, Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus da Jamus ta Gabas (GDR) an ayyana su ba su da inganci. 12:15.080 --> 12:17.606 Babu wanda ke da ikon mulki na cikakke a yanzu. 12:17.606 --> 12:24.202 Daga ma'ajiin kudi na kowace jam'iyya zuwa gaba, babu wanda ke da wani iko, ko iko mai cin gashin kansa, na yin magana a 12:24.202 --> 12:27.800 madadin Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus (FRG) ko Jamus ta Gabas (GDR). 12:27.800 --> 12:33.700 Kuma an ɓoye wannan ga al'ummar Jamus. 12:33.700 --> 12:38.113 Kuma da haka, a zahiri ya kasance kamar a cikin fanko. 12:38.113 --> 12:45.266 Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus ba a mamaye ta ba ta fuskar ma'aikata, domin ƙasashen haɗin gwiwar yaki, musamman Amurka, wacce 12:45.266 --> 12:52.600 ita ce ƙasar yammacin haɗin gwiwar da ta yi nasara, sun soke ikon mulkenta. Don haka ba a mamaye ta ba a wannan ma'anar. 12:52.600 --> 12:59.652 Sai Genscher da Kohl suka yi rijistar Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus a matsayin kamfani a Delaware. 12:59.652 --> 13:06.612 Kuma Genscher ya goge BRD daga Kundin Charta na Majalisar Dinkin Duniya kuma ya rubuta Jamus. 13:06.612 --> 13:11.980 Haka kuma a matsayin kamfani. An yi rijistar su a matsayin kamfani a Delaware. 13:11.980 --> 13:19.453 Za ka iya duba shi a cikin tsarin bayanan fayil na ƙasa da ƙasa na kamfanoni. Ana kiran sa UPIC. Don haka za ka iya duba shi. 13:19.453 --> 13:27.126 Kuma a nan an ce, Shugaba Steinmeier na Jamhuriyar Tarayya, lambar kamfani, adireshin kamfani, don haka duk 13:27.126 --> 13:35.840 kamfanoni ne gaba ɗaya, domin dole ta yi rijistar Kohl a matsayin kamfani, saboda an janye tushen kundin tsarin mulki. 13:35.840 --> 13:41.713 Kla.TV: Dr Haug, mu koma kan wannan katin shaida. 13:41.713 --> 13:57.952 Don haka, idan wannan katin shaida ya yi kama da katin ID na kamfani daga Jamus, Kamfanin Jamus, me ya sa haka? 13:57.952 --> 14:06.913 MH: Akwai ƙa'idodin ƙasa da ƙasa waɗanda, a ƙa'ida, mu fursunoni ne. Har zuwa yanzu, a zahiri mun kasance fursunoni, 14:06.913 --> 14:15.125 watakila da ɗan 'yanci kaɗan fiye da yadda muke da shi a yanzu a gidan yari, amma muna da wannan matsayi. 14:15.125 --> 14:20.086 Kuma akwai ƙa'idoji da ke tanadar da cewa dole ne a ba waɗannan mutane takardar 14:20.086 --> 14:23.866 tafiye-tafiye. Katin shaida ko takardar tafiye-tafiye. 14:23.866 --> 14:28.185 Kat ɗin shaida yana nuna cewa mu ma'aikata ne. Na kan yi aiki a wani wuri a lokacin hutu, misali a Daimler. 14:28.185 --> 14:35.843 Na saba aiki a wani wuri duk lokacin hutu, a Daimler ko wani wuri daban, kuma Daimler ta ba ka katin 14:35.843 --> 14:40.232 shaida saboda an ɗauke ka aiki a wurin a wancan lokacin. 14:40.232 --> 14:52.899 Kuma wannan daidai yake da kamfanin ciniki na BRD, wanda daga baya ke ba mutane katin shaida mai dacewa. 14:52.899 --> 14:56.320 Kuma hakan a fili yana nuna cewa mu ma kawai ma'aikata ne. 14:56.320 --> 14:57.780 Kla.TV: Kuma don haka ba shi da ƙasa. 14:57.780 --> 14:59.296 MH: Kuma ba shi da ƙasa ma. 14:59.296 --> 15:09.071 Kla.TV: Don haka, idan a yanzu a Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus muna da kamfani guda ɗaya kawai kuma babu wata sahihin kundin tsarin 15:09.071 --> 15:18.615 mulki, sai dai wata umarnin gudanarwa don kiyaye zaman lafiya da tsaron jama'a, bari in faɗa haka: menene damar da komawa ga 15:18.615 --> 15:27.775 ainihin German Reich, ga ainihin kundin tsarin mulki wanda har yanzu yake da inganci a yau, ke bayarwa ga mutanen Jamus 15:27.775 --> 15:32.680 ko ga 'yan ƙasar Jamus? Shin wannan ma yana da muhimmanci? 15:32.680 --> 15:39.000 Shin takarda ce tsohuwa mai ƙura kawai, ko kuwa tana da wani abu mai muhimmanci da za ta gaya mana a yau? 15:39.000 --> 15:40.520 MH: Wannan yana da matuƙar muhimmanci. 15:40.520 --> 15:46.241 Tabbas, yana da matuƙar muhimmanci a cimma yanayin zaman lafiya, haka kuma yanayin yaki, ta hanyar 15:46.241 --> 15:50.140 yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. Wannan shi ne sharadi. 15:50.140 --> 15:57.758 Sa'an nan, daga hangen dokar ƙasa da ƙasa, za mu sake zama wata ƙasa, wata ƙasa da aka amince da ita. Kuma za mu sake 15:57.758 --> 16:04.720 samun haƙƙoƙin ƙasa da suka dace da hakan, waɗanda ba mu da su a halin yanzu a Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus. 16:04.720 --> 16:07.840 Lallai mu 'yan ƙasa marasa ƙasa ne, dukkanmu 'yan Jamus. 16:07.840 --> 16:10.560 Zai iya zama abin mamaki, amma gaskiya ne. 16:10.560 --> 16:16.980 Sa'an nan za mu sake samun hakkokin kundin tsarin mulki da ikon kai a karkashin dokar kasa da kasa. 16:16.980 --> 16:26.425 Kuma wannan kundin tsarin mulki na iya zama tsoho, tun daga 1871, kuma watakila ya ɗan tsufa, amma ba haka ba ne. 16:26.425 --> 16:28.960 An samu manyan nasarori. 16:28.960 --> 16:35.226 Kuma a can, misali, sun kuma tattauna yadda halin haraji yake a Daular Jamus. 16:35.226 --> 16:39.365 Akwai harajin sayarwa na kashi 4% kawai. 16:39.365 --> 16:47.300 Ba a samu harajin kuɗin shiga kwata-kwata ba, sai dai ƙaramin kaso na harajin kuɗin shiga bayan an wuce wani iyaka. 16:47.300 --> 16:53.900 Wannan yana nufin, bari in ba ka misali, idan har VAT ɗin ya kai kashi 4% kawai, mu ɗauki farashin mai. 16:53.900 --> 17:00.633 Idan muna magana ne game da yau, ina da dizal mai kusan 1.70, sai ka ƙididdige shi da kanka: idan kana da VAT na 17:00.633 --> 17:05.160 kashi 4% kawai, to farashin mai tabbas zai bambanta gaba ɗaya. 17:05.160 --> 17:13.275 A yau, akwai wani ɓangare na haraji kimanin senti 80, musamman kan mai. Ni kuma ina da ragi sau 17:13.275 --> 17:17.580 biyar, wato kimanin senti 70 ne farashin mai na. 17:17.580 --> 17:28.133 Don haka ina ganin wannan misali ne kawai da ke nuna cewa lallai yana ba wa al'ummar Jamus manyan fa'idodi. 17:28.133 --> 17:33.360 Kuma tabbas, hakan ma yana game da bangarorin kuɗi, abin bayyane ne. 17:33.360 --> 17:39.520 Don haka, a wancan lokacin, mai karbar fansho yana da matsakaicin euro 3,000 a kowane 17:39.520 --> 17:43.060 wata, misali, idan aka mayar da shi zuwa euro. 17:43.060 --> 17:51.000 Ina ganin mafi yawan masu karbar fansho ba su da wata matsala da shi; wasu ma suna da fiye, amma su ne kaɗan. 17:51.000 --> 17:58.527 Idan za ka iya samun fansho mai kyau a nan ba tare da biyan haraji mai yawa ba, hakan ma babban matsala ne a 17:58.527 --> 18:02.100 gare mu, idan ka kalli masu tattara kwalabe da sauransu. 18:02.100 --> 18:04.920 Don haka hakan yana da fa'idodi da yawa. 18:04.920 --> 18:09.793 Za mu iya ci gaba da tattaunawa a kai na wata rabin sa'a, game da fa'idodi—a gaskiya, babu komai sai fa'idodi. 18:09.793 --> 18:14.900 Amma kawai ina so in ambaci wannan muhimmin bangare guda. 18:14.900 --> 18:21.334 Kla.TV: Yanzu ga wata tambaya. Don haka idan Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus a zahiri kamfani ce kawai, shin an yi mata 18:21.334 --> 18:24.835 rijista a matsayin kamfani, kamfani mai iyaka ko menene? 18:24.835 --> 18:27.391 MH: Ba a yi rijista da shi a matsayin kamfani mai iyaka ba, an yi rijista da shi kawai a matsayin 18:27.391 --> 18:29.120 kamfani. Kla.TV: An yi rijista da shi a matsayin kamfani. 18:29.120 --> 18:38.602 Kuma mu kawai muna da wasu ƙa'idodin gida, wani tsari ne kawai da ke tsara yadda muke 18:38.602 --> 18:44.546 rayuwa tare, amma ba wata kundin tsarin mulki ba. 18:44.546 --> 18:49.240 To, me game da mummunan bashin ƙasa da muke fuskanta? 18:49.240 --> 18:51.680 To, shin suna da alaƙa da mu a gaskiya? 18:51.680 --> 19:01.133 Ko wannan ba al'amari ne na kamfani ba, ba na mazauna, wato 'yan ƙasar Jamus na gaske? 19:01.133 --> 19:04.146 Menene wannan game da? Shin yana da alaƙa da shi? 19:04.146 --> 19:09.653 MH: Wannan tambaya ce mai kyau sosai. Mu koma bangaren kuɗi. 19:09.653 --> 19:16.220 Bashin ƙasa ko bashin wannan kamfanin kasuwanci ba su da alaƙa da Daular Jamus. 19:16.220 --> 19:20.420 Ba su wanzu kwata-kwata. A ka'ida, ba su wanzu. 19:20.420 --> 19:27.447 Masu biyan haraji na Jamus suna biyan tsakanin €10,000 da €15,000 a kowace shekara a kan 19:27.447 --> 19:31.560 riba kaɗai, saboda wannan mummunan ƙimar riba. 19:31.560 --> 19:34.600 Ina ganin hakan zai kasance da matuƙar amfani ga kowace gida. 19:34.600 --> 19:40.571 Kuma waɗannan bashin, tabbas, ba su da alaƙa da Daular Jamus, domin Daular Jamus tana da arziki kuma za ta iya 19:40.571 --> 19:45.280 sake samun arziki idan aka tsara abubuwa yadda ya kamata. 19:45.280 --> 19:54.213 Kla.TV: Kyau. Haka yake yanzu. Shugaban Amurka Donald Trump da gwamnatinsa suna matuƙar tausayawa 'yanci 19:54.213 --> 19:58.705 da ikon yanke shawara na kansu na 'yan ƙasar Turai. 19:58.705 --> 20:01.993 Kwanan nan a Taron Tsaro na Munich. 20:01.993 --> 20:06.275 Vance ya kuma yi magana sosai yana goyon bayan 'yancin kafofin watsa labarai da duk 20:06.275 --> 20:09.460 waɗannan abubuwa da dimokuraɗiyya da sauransu. 20:09.460 --> 20:18.474 A ra'ayinka, wane matakai gwamnatin Trump za ta ɗauka don bai wa Jamus da mutanen Jamus damar cimma irin wannan zaman 20:18.474 --> 20:27.446 lafiya da yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya, domin su sake samun 'yancinsu da ikon kai kuma su zama ƙasa a karo na gaba? 20:27.446 --> 20:35.580 Don haka duk waɗannan ƙimomi, waɗanda a fili kuka rasa a tsawon tarihin, kamar yadda kuka bayyana yanzu. 20:35.580 --> 20:38.140 Me Trump zai yi? 20:38.140 --> 20:47.600 MH: Don haka, musamman, wakilai na gaskiya na Daular Jamus ta 1871, waɗanda mutane suka zaɓa a zaɓe na dimokuraɗiyya. 20:47.600 --> 20:50.797 A kaina, ba ni mai goyon bayan jam'iyya sosai ba. 20:50.797 --> 20:57.540 Hakanan za ka iya gudanar da zaɓen kashin kai, domin ka iya jefa ƙuri'a ga mutumin da kake son ya kasance a can. 20:57.540 --> 21:02.860 Kuma, tabbas, abokan haɗin gwiwa dole ne su zauna a tebur a kowane hali. 21:02.860 --> 21:08.033 Don haka duk abokan haɗin gwiwa huɗu ne. Faransa ba ta taka muhimmiyar rawa. 21:08.033 --> 21:11.673 Rasha da Amurka a halitta suna taka muhimmiyar rawa. 21:11.673 --> 21:18.915 Kuma a nan, tabbas, dole ne a gudanar da tattaunawa na ainihi kan yadda za a koma mataki-mataki 21:18.915 --> 21:22.980 zuwa Daular Jamus ta dimokuradiyya ta shekarar 1871. 21:22.980 --> 21:30.106 Wannan kundin tsarin mulki na 1871, wanda aka fitar a watan Afrilu 1871, an zabe shi ta hanyar dimokuradiyya 21:30.106 --> 21:36.919 tsakanin jam'iyyu daban-daban: Jam'iyyar Tsakani, wadda ta gabaci CDU, da SPD sun riga sun wanzu. 21:36.919 --> 21:39.005 Sannan an kuma ba su izinin jefa ƙuri'a a gabashin Jamus. 21:39.005 --> 21:43.700 Kuma an amince da shi da rinjaye mai yawa, an amince da wannan kundin tsarin mulki. 21:43.700 --> 21:48.600 A gaskiya, sarki babba ba komai ba ne illa wakili ga duniya ta waje. Kamar ministan harkokin waje. 21:48.600 --> 21:51.080 Ba shi da wani babban haƙƙi ko wani abu makamancin haka. 21:51.080 --> 21:55.240 Mutum na tunanin cewa za a samu masarauta, sannan za a ware shi daga wani sarki. 21:55.240 --> 21:58.360 Ita masarauta ce ta kundin tsarin mulki. 21:58.360 --> 22:03.166 Amma inda sarki, kamar yadda na ce, shi ne mai magana da waje. 22:03.166 --> 22:06.726 Kuma sauran abubuwa ana ƙayyade su ta hanyar dimokuradiyya iri ɗaya. 22:06.726 --> 22:09.680 A cikin Reichstag, kamar yadda har yanzu muke da shi a yau, a gefe guda. 22:09.680 --> 22:13.346 Reichstag, ba a kira shi Reichstag a Berlin ba ba tare da dalili ba. 22:13.346 --> 22:23.940 Wakilan Reichstag na gaskiya za su sake tsara gyare-gyaren doka, su tsara ka'idoji da sauransu a cikin tsarin dimokuradiyya. 22:23.940 --> 22:28.860 Don haka babu buƙatar damuwa game da komawa zamanin duhu ko wani abu makamancin haka. 22:28.860 --> 22:32.100 Ko a wancan lokacin, an tsara shi ta hanyar dimokuradiyya sosai. 22:32.100 --> 22:41.443 Kla.TV: Eh, don haka, idan na fahimta daidai, Shugaba Donald Trump zai tabbatar, idan yana damuwa da 'yancin 22:41.443 --> 22:51.286 'yan Turai, cewa, misali, waɗannan wakilan Daular Jamus su zo tebur su tattauna yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 22:51.286 --> 22:53.240 Kuma me kuma zai yi? 22:53.240 --> 23:02.800 MH: Eh, tabbas, wani muhimmin lamari a Jamus shi ne cewa Amurka ce ke mamaye mu mafi yawa. 23:02.800 --> 23:08.646 Akwai fiye da sansanonin soja 30, manyan sansanonin soja a nan. 23:08.646 --> 23:12.600 Adadin sojoji nan ba da jimawa ba zai zarce na Sojin Birtaniya. 23:12.600 --> 23:16.286 Don haka ba za ka iya cewa ba mu da aiki ba. 23:16.286 --> 23:21.879 Muna cikin mamaya yadda ya kamata. Za ka iya ganin hakan daga sansanonin soja da yawa. Babu abin da ya canza. 23:21.879 --> 23:26.300 Ana kiran wannan Dokar Soja, wadda har yanzu take aiki a yau. An kuma sanya ta a cikin Jaridar Dokokin Tarayya. 23:26.300 --> 23:32.340 Na yi bincike sosai kan duk wannan. Don haka ni kamar beran ƙasa ne. 23:32.340 --> 23:37.253 Na kwashe kwanaki a ɗakunan karatun doka kuma na sami waɗannan majiyoyi. 23:37.253 --> 23:41.390 An kuma bayyana a cikin Jaridar Dokokin Tarayya ta 1994 cewa komai zai ci gaba da kasancewa 23:41.390 --> 23:44.520 yadda yake. Za mu ci gaba da kasancewa cikin mamaye. 23:44.520 --> 23:52.700 Don haka a zahiri da a doka an mamaye mu. 23:52.700 --> 23:57.700 Kuma Trump ba zai janye sojojinsa daga nan ba har sai mun sami yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 23:57.700 --> 24:00.708 Dole ne a warware wannan. Babu abin da zai faru har sai an warware shi. 24:00.708 --> 24:05.959 Akwai murya da yawa suna cewa, eh, 'yan Amurka, lokaci ya yi da ku koma gida. 24:05.959 --> 24:11.106 Wannan ba zai yi aiki ba saboda muna cikin yankin da sojoji suka mamaye. 24:11.106 --> 24:17.200 Kuma ba za a yi komai ba har sai mun tattauna wannan a cikin yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 24:17.200 --> 24:22.886 Sa'an nan za mu iya dawo da ikonmu na ainihi. 24:22.886 --> 24:29.910 Kla.TV: Don haka, idan na fahimta daidai, Donald Trump da gwamnatinsa za su fara tabbatar da 24:29.910 --> 24:34.120 cewa lauyoyi su tattauna yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 24:34.120 --> 24:40.226 Sa'an nan sai dole ne ya juyar da mamayar ta wata hanya. MH: Ka kawo ƙarshen sa. Kla.TV: Ka kawo ƙarshen sa. 24:40.226 --> 24:50.270 Kuma kawai ku tsaya, a aikace, ku ba Jamus damar sake aiki bisa ga kundin tsarin mulkinta na 1871 24:50.270 --> 24:55.280 da hukumomin jiha da aka kafa a wancan lokacin. 24:55.280 --> 24:58.286 Shin na fahimta daidai? MH: Ka fahimta daidai. 24:58.286 --> 25:02.060 Halin asali na Trump. Na riga na tuntube shi sau ɗaya. 25:02.060 --> 25:05.180 Ya mayar min da martani nan take. Na yi mamaki. 25:05.180 --> 25:09.952 Bayan 'yan kwanaki, ya mayar min da martani. Ta imel ne. 25:09.952 --> 25:16.680 A bayyane yake a tsakanin layuka cewa kawai yana cewa, to, ku 'yan Jamus, wannan ma harkarku ce. 25:16.680 --> 25:20.813 Ban so in tsoma baki sosai ko in yi umarni ba. 25:20.813 --> 25:25.926 Yana da isasshen aiki a Amurka, a cikin Tarayyar Amurka. 25:25.926 --> 25:36.960 Don haka an nuna cewa ainihin ya rage ga 'yan Jamus su koma can su dawo da ikon kansu. 25:36.960 --> 25:42.592 Amma tabbas, wannan zai yiwu ne kawai a cikin tattaunawa da Putin a halin yanzu. Da Trump ma. 25:42.592 --> 25:45.856 Saboda waɗannan har yanzu su ne dokoki na gaskiya. 25:45.856 --> 25:52.480 Kla.TV: To. Don haka Trump ma zai yi daidai da Putin kan batun Jamus. 25:52.480 --> 25:56.126 Ya kamata a kuma yi tattaunawa. Ya kamata ya zama batun tattaunawa. 25:56.126 --> 26:05.966 Kuma su biyun, watakila tare da Birtaniya da Faransa, za su yi shawara tare, su ce, "To, za ku iya komawa yadda 26:05.966 --> 26:15.040 kuka kasance a da, bisa ga tsohuwar kundin tsarin mulki da har yanzu take nan, sannan ku sake aiki." 26:15.040 --> 26:24.288 Amma idan na fahimta daidai, dole ne wannan yunƙuri ya fito ne daga ikon mamaye, wanda daga baya zai sa hakan ya yiwu. 26:24.288 --> 26:28.320 MH: Duk biyun. Wata hanya ce ta haɗuwa. 26:28.320 --> 26:32.200 Kuma, tabbas, dole ne wani ya ɗauki mataki na farko. 26:32.200 --> 26:38.080 Mataki ƙanana ƙwarai da na ɗauka wajen tuntuɓar sa kwata-kwata. 26:38.080 --> 26:39.640 Kuma ya san daidai abin da ke faruwa. 26:39.640 --> 26:49.240 Domin a lokacin zaman majalisar dokoki na baya, ya ce a zahiri yana son ba Jamus yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 26:49.240 --> 26:52.673 Gaskiyar cewa yanzu ya rataya a kansa, ana iya yin hakan tun da dadewa. 26:52.673 --> 26:57.079 Amma ya bayyana shi da kalmomi, kuma na tabbata mutane da yawa ma sun san shi. 26:57.079 --> 27:01.690 Kuma da yawa watakila ba su yi komai ba game da shi saboda sun yi tunanin muna da wani abu kamar yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya. 27:01.690 --> 27:05.593 Ba ya faɗin hakan ba ba tare da dalili ba. Sun san daidai abin da ke faruwa a Jamus. 27:05.593 --> 27:11.680 Kuma Putin ya ce a wannan mahallin cewa shi ma yana so ya kammala yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya da Jamus. 27:11.680 --> 27:17.546 Ba shi da masaniya da wane zai sanya hannu a kai. A wancan lokacin, lokacin Merkel ne. 27:17.546 --> 27:20.680 Kuma ba ita ce wakiliyar doka ta Daular Jamus ba. 27:20.680 --> 27:26.926 Shi ya sa ya tsara maganar daidai sosai ta wata hanya mai zagaye. Dole ne ka kula da hakan. 27:26.926 --> 27:35.529 Kla.TV: Amma ta yaya gwamnatin Amurka da kuma Tarayyar Rasha za su iya goyon baya, don ni kaɗai, 27:35.529 --> 27:41.319 cewa wakilai masu dacewa su zo teburin tattaunawa? 27:41.319 --> 27:45.210 MH: Kamar yadda na ce, wannan ba shakka lamari ne ga mutanen Jamus. 27:45.210 --> 27:50.686 Ina da abokai a can waɗanda ke da kyakkyawar alaƙa a ofishin jakadancin Rasha. 27:50.686 --> 27:56.726 Kuma sun ce za mu iya tattaunawa da Putin a matsayin daidaitattu. Yana da buɗaɗɗe. 27:56.726 --> 28:03.670 Idan muka tura wakilai, ko da na ɗan lokaci ne kawai, ba zai rufe ƙofa ba. 28:03.670 --> 28:12.190 Mun bayyana hakan a fili ga mutanen ofishin jakadanci da kuma ga kanmu, a ce. Kofofi suna buɗe. 28:12.190 --> 28:20.790 Yana kan mu mu tabbatar an karɓe mu a matsayin daidaitattu, mu ɗauki waɗannan matakai ma, mu miƙa hannu ga juna. 28:20.790 --> 28:24.230 Hakan na tasowa a hankali ga Jamus. 28:24.230 --> 28:27.230 Kla.TV: Wani batu mai ban sha'awa, Dr Haug. 28:27.230 --> 28:31.930 Mai kyau. Kuma za ka iya karanta game da yawancin waɗannan abubuwa, watakila a cikin littafinka. 28:31.930 --> 28:38.950 MH: Komai yana ciki, duk rubuce-rubucen doka, tarihin, na yi bincike sosai kan komai. 28:38.950 --> 28:45.070 Ba ni mara kuskure ba. Kullum akwai abubuwa da wani ya fi sani a kansu. 28:45.070 --> 28:48.910 Kai, na yi farin ciki da jin haka. Kullum ina yin sabbin bugu. 28:48.910 --> 28:58.193 Wannan shi ne bugu na biyu, inda na faɗaɗa kuma na ƙara yalwata duk abin da ƙarin fahimta. 28:58.193 --> 29:01.376 Amma duk abin da ke cikinsa an yi masa cikakken bincike. 29:01.376 --> 29:10.630 Kla.TV: Kyakkyau. Dr Haug, na gode ƙwarai da gaske da ka ba mu ɗan haske game da asirai na Daular Jamus. 29:10.630 --> 29:16.440 Tabbas mun yi taɓawa ne kawai a saman maganar, amma abin sha'awa ne jin labarinsa. 29:16.440 --> 29:24.766 Wannan yana nufin cewa yanzu alhaki ya rataya a kan 'yan Jamus da kansu. 29:24.766 --> 29:31.250 Kuma ƙasashen mamaye suna shirye su saurara kuma su goyi bayan waɗannan abubuwa. 29:31.250 --> 29:33.430 MH: A kowane hali. A kwarewata dai. 29:33.430 --> 29:40.419 In ba haka ba, ba za a samu amsa cikin sauri haka ba tare da Trump, misali, da wakilan Rasha. 29:40.419 --> 29:45.950 Kla.TV: Kyau. MH: Na gode ƙwarai. Kla.TV: Eh, ba komai. MH: Ina so in ce a wannan lokaci cewa na sami damar isar da wani abu. 29:45.950 --> 29:54.770 Har yanzu a saman. Wataƙila za a yi ƙarin hirarraki inda za mu zurfafa kaɗan a wasu wurare. 29:54.770 --> 29:58.048 Ya danganta. Wannan zai taimaka. Na gode sosai. 29:58.048 --> 30:00.070 Kla.TV: Kyau. Na gode da niyyarku. MH: Na gode.