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Kla.TV: Dọkịta Haug, daalụ nke ukwuu
maka iwepụta oge ịgwa anyị okwu taa.

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Ị bụ onye edemede nke akwụkwọ Das Deutsche Reich 1871
bis heute (Alaeze Jamanị site na 1871 ruo taa). Ruo taa?

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Dọkịta Haug, e nwere nnukwu esemokwu gbasara nkwupụta na Federal
Republic of Germany abụghị steeti, na ọ nwere naanị Iwu Isi

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ma ọ bụghị akwụkwọ ụkpụrụ iwu, na ọ nweghị nkwekọrịta
udo, na ọ nweghị ókèala mba doro anya, na ọ naghị nwe onwe ya.

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Ndị Jamani bụkwa ndị na-enweghị steeti.

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Dịka olu na-emegide akụkọ a na-ekwukarị, biko kọwaa n'ụzọ dị
mkpirikpi ma doo anya maka ndị na-ekiri echiche gị banyere ihe ị

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chere na ịdịgide German Reich pụtara, na kedu
ihe metụtara esemokwu ndị a a na-atụle nke

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ukwuu na ịdịgide German Reich, dịka ị ghọtara.

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Matthes Haug: Nke mbu, daalụ nke ukwuu maka ịkpọ m, Mista Matten.

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Ee, edere m akwụkwọ Akwụkwọ 1871 ruo Taa, n'ihi na e
guzobere Alaeze Jamanị na 1871 n'Ụlọ Iko Nlegharị anya

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dị na Versailles n'okpuru Bismarck na Eze Wilhelm I.

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E nyere ya ikike, steeti iri anọ na isii ndị
nnọchiteanya ha nọ ebe ahụ kwadoro ya, Alaeze Germany.

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Ma Alaeze Jamanị a ekweghị ka e gbazie ya.

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Enweghị ike ịgbanyụọ ya kpamkpam, n'ihi na nke a
ga-achọ iwu ndị e debere na Konstitushọn 1871, gụnyere

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ụkpụrụ gbasara otu esi, dịka ọmụmaatụ, gbanyụọ Konstitushọn.

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A naghị akwụsị usoro iwu a.

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Mgbe ahụ, Agha Ụwa Mbụ mere, ma mgbe nke ahụ
gasịrị, n'eziokwu, ọ bụ naanị nkwụsị agha.

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Enweghị mgbe e nwere nkwekọrịta udo nke bụ
eziokwu. Nkwekọrịta Versailles abụghị nkwekọrịta udo.

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Ya mere, ọ bụ naanị nkwụsị agha. Ya
mere, Alaeze Jamanị ka dị ruo taa.

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Ekwela ka e mee ka ịtụfuo ya na Third Reich. A
na-ejikarị ha abụọ na-atụfuo. Third Reich na

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Alaeze Jamanị nke 1871 enweghị ihe jikọrọ ha ọnụ.

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Kama nke ahụ, a pụrụ ịlaghachi ya kpamkpam na
alaeze a, nke ka na-adị n'enweghị ihere ruo taa.

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Kla.TV: N'echiche gị, kedu ohere na nsonaazụ
ga-apụta site n'eziokwu na German Reich ka dị taa?

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Ò nwere ohere pụrụ iche maka ndị obodo iji hazie ọdịnihu?

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MH: E nwere ezigbo ohere. Ma site n'echiche iwu
kpamkpam, nke a abụghị echiche m, kama ọ bụ eziokwu iwu.

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Ya mere, site n'echiche iwu
kpamkpam, ụkpụrụ iwu nke 1871 na-emetụkwa.

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N'ihi na Alaeze Jamanị a ka nọ, n'echiche,
n'ọnọdụ agha ruo taa. Ọ bụ naanị n'ọnọdụ nkwụsị agha.

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Ma naanị Alaeze Jamanị a ka nwere ike ịbanye nkwekọrịta udo ọzọ.

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Repọblik Federal adịghị adị n'oge ahụ.

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N'eziokwu, e guzobere ya naanị na 3 Jenụwarị 1950,
mgbe e zigara ndị Britain akwụkwọ ikike ikpeazụ.

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Ya mere, mmadụ ga-eche na e guzobere ya na 1949.

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M nyochara ihe niile a nke ọma nke ukwuu ma gosipụta ya nke ọma.

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Enwere m mmasị naanị na eziokwu, ọ dịghị ihe
ọzọ. N'ihe a metụtara, abụ m onye sayensị zuru oke.

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Ya mere, a hiwere Federal Republic ahụ naanị na 3 Jenụwarị 1950.

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Ya mere, o naghị ekwe omume ịbanye nkwekọrịta udo, n'ihi na
Federal Republic of Germany abụghị onye na-alụ ọgụ n'ọgụ ahụ.

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Ma nkwekọrịta udo ga-esochi agha n'ezie.

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Ma nke a chọrọ ka e nwee ndị
nnọchiteanya ziri ezi nke German Reich.

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Kla.TV: Ma ndị nnọchiteanya a kwadoro
adịghịkwa nọ na mkparịta ụka udo ndị a.

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E nwere nkwekọrịta 2 plus 4. Ò bụ na
ihe niile ahụ bụ efu, dịka ha si kwuo?

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MH: Na German, "Für den Katz" apụtaghị "maka pusi".

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Ọfọn, nke ahụ bụ okwu dị iche.

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Ndị nnọchiteanya nkwekọrịta udo adịghị mgbe ọ bụla nọ ebe ahụ.

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Nke ahụ ga-abụ Eze William I ma ọ bụ Eze William II.

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Mgbe ahụ, William nke Abụọ sochiri ya.

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Ya mere, nke ahụ nwere ike ịbụ onye nnọchi anya ziri ezi.

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Otú ọ dị, o mechara pụọ n'ala mgbapụ, ya mere
ọ nọghịzi ebe a ma enweghịkwa ike ịkpọtụrụ ya.

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A kwupụtara Republịk Weimar n'enweghị nkwanye ugwu
maka ụkpụrụ iwu kwadoro nke 1871. Nke a apụghị

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ime n'okpuru iwu mba ụwa na iwu ndọrọndọrọ ọchịchị.

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Nke a pụtara na enweghị onye nnọchiteanya
kwesịrị ekwesị nke Alaeze Jamanị nke 1871.

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Ndị a bụ ndị ndọrọndọrọ ọchịchị na ndị mmadụ na-enweghị
ikike ọ bụla ịbanye nkwekọrịta udo maka Alaeze Germany na 1871.

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Ha kwurịtara ya mgbe ahụ, ma ugbu a anyị
ga-eme obere ntụgharị, Nkwekọrịta Abụọ Plus Anọ.

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N'eziokwu, a na-akpọ ya Nkwekọrịta Anọ Plus
Abụọ. Nke ahụ bụ otu ndị Allies si akpọ ya.

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Ya mere, ndị òtù mmekọ anọ, Soviet Union, England,
France na USA, na FRG, Federal Republic of Germany, na GDR.

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E kwesiri ka ndị a guzobe Germany jikọtara ọnụ
n'okpuru nkwekọrịta a. Nke ahụ ga-ekwe omume ka a kwado ya.

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N'echiche a, a naghị enweta Germany jikọtara ọnụ.

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N'ihi na Germany jikọtara ọnụ
pụtara Germany niile dị ka ọ dị na 1871.

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Nke ahụ bụ njikọ zuru oke.

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Germany kewara n'ime akụkụ atọ mgbe Agha Ụwa nke Abụọ gasịrị.

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Repọblik Federal nke Germany, mgbe ahụ Repọblik
Ndọrọndọrọ Ọchịchị Germany, ma ọ bụ Germany Etiti ka o kwesịrị

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ịdị. Na mpaghara ndị East Germany na-achị site na Poland.

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Ma ruo taa, ihe ọ bụla agbanwebeghị n'ihe a.

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Ya mere, Germany jikọtara ọnụ agaghị ekwe
omume ka FRG mepụta ya site n'otu n'ime akụkụ

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atọ a, ma ọ bụ ọbụna site na ọtụtụ n'ime ha.

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Ya mere, ndị mmadụ na-ekwu mgbe niile na nkwekọrịta Four
Plus Two na Two Plus Four ga-abụ nkwekọrịta udo ọkara.

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Enweghị ihe dị ka nkwekọrịta udo ọkara.
A na-akpọ ya kpọmkwem nkwekọrịta udo.

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N'ikpeazụ, a naghị akwado nkwekọrịta
a site n'aka ndị niile sonyere ya.

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Naanị site na Russia. Nke a na-adọrọ mmasị nke ukwuu.

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Naanị Russia kwadoro nkwekọrịta a.

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Ma Genscher, Onye Isi Nchịkwa Mba Ofesi nke Federal Republic
of Germany n'oge ahụ, ekweghị ya n'usoro iwu kwesịrị ekwesị.

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Ị ga-ede aha gị niile ebe a, nke ọ mere na nkwekọrịta isi.

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Mgbe ọ bịara n'ịkwado ya, ọ tinyere naanị mkpụrụedemede
aha mbụ ya. Enweghị aha mbụ ọ bụla, ọ dịghịkwa ihe ọzọ.

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Ma n'eziokwu, nke ahụ megidere ụkpụrụ ndị ahụ.

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Ya mere, a naghị atụgharị
nkwekọrịta a n'iwu. Nke ahụ bụ ihe dị mkpa.

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Kla.TV: Dọkịta Haug, ọ bụrụ na m ghọtara gị
nke ọma, ụkpụrụ iwu nke 1871 ka dị n'ọrụ taa.

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Ma gịnị ka Iwu Ndabere bụ? Kedu ihe ọ pụtara?

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MH: Iwu Ndabere dabere na Nkwekọrịta Hague. Nke ahụ bụ iwu
mba ụwa. Ọ na-achịkwa ọnọdụ agha na ọnọdụ mgbe agha kwụsịrị.

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Kla.TV: Gịnị ka HLKO pụtara? MH:
Nkwekọrịta Hague gbasara Agha Ala

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Ọ̀ ga-eme ka onye bi n'ime ya nwee ụkpụrụ?

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Iji debe usoro, ntụziaka na udo. Nke a bụ otú e si kọwaa ya.

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Nke a bụ ihe kpatara a ji akpọ ya Iwu Isi nke Federal Republic
of Germany, ọ bụghị Iwu Isi nke Federal Republic of Germany.

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Ya mere, ọ bụ ikike onye bi n'ebe ahụ. Akụkọ mkpirikpi.

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Nna m maara Carlo Schmidt, onye a
na-akpọ otu n'ime ndị guzobere Iwu Ndabere.

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Ọ bụ nwoke agadi nọ n'òtù ụmụnna nna m.

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Ma, ka ọ ka na-enwe ntakịrị obi ụtọ site
n'emume ahụ, o hapụrụ ka ụfọdụ ihe nzuzo pụta.

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O kwuru, ị maara, e nyere anyị ohere itinye nkwụsị
okwu na koma. Ihe ndị ọzọ niile e kpebiela kemgbe mbụ.

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Ndị Allies n'ụzọ eke chọrọ ịhazi ụkpụrụ
ọchịchị a dịka mmasị ha si dị. Nke ahụ doro anya.

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Ya mere, nke ahụ bụ nkwupụta ozugbo Carlo
Schmidt mere gbasara nna m dịka onye àmà.

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Ma ka na-ekwupụta ya na Isi 120 nke Iwu Ndabere taa na gọọmenti
etiti na-akwụ ụgwọ maka ịnọ n'ala. Nke ahụ bụ n'ụdị ya nke 2025.

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Nke a pụtara na ọ bụrụ na ị ga-akwụ ụgwọ
maka iji ya, n'ezie anyị kwa na-ejiri ya.

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Anyị enweghị usoro iwu.

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N'ihi na, dịka ụkpụrụ iwu mba ụwa si kwuo,
steeti kwesịrị ekwesị nwere ndị bi na ya,

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ókèala steeti, òtù ọchịchị steeti na ụkpụrụ iwu.

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N'okwu kpọmkwem, Federal Republic ahụ
emezughị otu n'ime ihe atọ a. Ọ bụghị mba, n'ihi na

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ndị obodo ya niile bụ ụmụ amaala German Reich.

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Ndị nwere ike igosi nke a site n'ọgbọ nna nna ha.

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Ya mere, Federal Republic n'onwe ya enweghị iwu mba ziri ezi.

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Ma ókèala mba adịghịkwa. N'ihi na ókèala mba ndị ahụ, ókèala
mba n'eziokwu, e guzobere ha site n'Alaeze Jamanị na 1871.

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Ya mere, e guzobere Republic Federal dịka nhazi
nchịkwa, mpaghara akụ na ụba. Site n'aka ike nchịkwa ala.

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Ma ike na-achị ala ahụ enweghị ikike itinye steeti ọhụrụ na ya.

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Ya mere, site n'echiche iwu mba ụwa,
Alaeze Jamanị nke 1871 ka dị otu ahụ.

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Kla.TV: Ya mere, ọ bụrụ na m ghọtara gị nke ọma, Federal
Republic of Germany bụ naanị nhazi nchịkwa e guzobere site

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n'aka, ka anyị sị, ndị meriri agha, iji kwado usoro ọha.

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Nke a na-eduga m na ajụjụ m na-esote.

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N'ihi na ndị a na-akpọ ndị na-enyocha eziokwu
na-ekwukarị na steeti na ndị ọchịchị ya ga-abụ ụlọ ọrụ.

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A na-ekwu mgbe niile na Federal Republic of Germany bụ ụlọ ọrụ
e ji oke ma ọ bụ ihe yiri ya, ụlọ ọrụ. Iji nwee ike ime ihe.

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Ka e ghara ịnwe ọnwụ nnwere onwe ma ọ bụ ọchịchị
steeti jikọtara ya. Ka e ghara ịnwe ọnwụ ọ bụla.

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Ma ị si na ya lee ya? Nke a bụ ugbu a, ihe a anyị
bụ n'ozuzu—ka anyị sị na ọ bụ ụlọ ọrụ—ọ nwekwara

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kaadị njirimara; ọ bụ ihe na-egosi nhazi nchịkwa a?

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Ma na anyị abụghị steeti n'eziokwu, na Federal Republic of Germany
abụghị steeti n'eziokwu ọbụla, kama ọ bụ naanị otu nchịkwa?

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Ọ̀ bụ ihe na-egosi nke a?

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MH: Nke ahụ n'ezie bụ ihe na-egosi nke ahụ.

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N'oge ahụ, n'afọ 1990, n'oge a na-akpọ "njikọta ọzọ" nke emeghị,
Onye Isi Ụlọ Ọrụ Mba Ọzọ nke Amerịka na Onye Isi Ụlọ Ọrụ Mba Ọzọ

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nke Germany, ya bụ nke Soviet Union, jiri ikike ha dị
ka ndị òtù kwụsịrị ma hichapụ Iwu Ndabere na-enweghị

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dochie ya, hichapụkwa ókè iji ya, Isi 23, ebe a kọwara ya.

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Iwu ọ bụla chọrọ ka e kọwaa ókè ojiji ya.

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GDR nwere ụkpụrụ iwu. A gbuturu
otu akuku ya, dika iguzozi paspoort.

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Nke a pụtara na site n'oge a, 18 Julaị 1990, mgbe nke a
mere, ma kpọmkwem 17 Julaị 1990, na 18 Julaị 1990, e

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kwupụtara na Federal Republic of Germany na GDR adịghịzi irè.

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Ọ dịghị onye nwerezi ikike eze.

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Malite na onye na-ahụ maka ego nke otu ọ bụla
ruo n'ihu, ọ dịghị onye nwere ikike ọchịchị zuru

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oke, ikike ọ bụla ikwu okwu n'aha FRG ma ọ bụ GDR.

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A zoro nke a n'ihu ndị German.

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Ma site na nke ahụ, ọ dị n'ezie n'ime oghere ikuku efu.

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Repọblik Federal nke Germany adịghịzi n'okpuru njikwa ndị agha
n'ihe gbasara ndị ọrụ, n'ihi na ndị mba òtù Allied, nke United

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States, ike mmeri nke ndị òtù Allied ndị ọdịda
anyanwụ, duziri, ewepụrụ ikike ọchịchị ya. Ya mere, ọ

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naghịzi adị n'okpuru njikwa ndị agha n'echiche ahụ.

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Ma Genscher na Kohl debanyere Federal
Republic of Germany dị ka ụlọ ọrụ na Delaware.

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Ma Genscher hichapụrụ BRD na Charter nke UN ma dee Germany.

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N'otu aka ahụ dị ka ụlọ ọrụ. E
debanyere ha dị ka ụlọ ọrụ na Delaware.

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Ị nwere ike ịchọ ya na Sistemụ Ozi Faịlụ Mba Nile maka
ụlọ ọrụ. A na-akpọ ya UPIC. Ya mere, ị nwere ike ịchọ ya.

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Ma ọ na-ekwu ebe ahụ, Onye isi ala Steinmeier nke Federal
Republic, nọmba ụlọ ọrụ, adreesị ụlọ ọrụ, ya mere ha

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niile bụ ụlọ ọrụ n'akụkụ niile, n'ihi na ọ ga-edebanye
Kohl dị ka ụlọ ọrụ, n'ihi na ewepụrụ ntọala iwu isi ala.

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Kla.TV: Dọkịta Haug, na-alaghachi na kaadị njirimara a.

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Ya mere, ọ bụrụ na kaadị njirimara a dị ka kaadị ID
ụlọ ọrụ sitere na Germany Company, gịnị kpatara nke a?

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MH: E nwere iwu mba ụwa nke, n'echiche bụ isi, na-eme ka anyị
bụrụ ndị mkpọrọ. Ruo ugbu a, n'eziokwu anyị bụ ndị

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mkpọrọ, eleghị anya anyị nwere ntakịrị nnwere onwe karịa nke
anyị nwere ugbu a n'ụlọ mkpọrọ, ma anyị ka nwere ọnọdụ ahụ.

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Ma e nwere iwu na-ekwu na a ga-enye ndị a
akwụkwọ njem. Kaadị njirimara ma ọ bụ akwụkwọ njem.

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Kaadị njirimara na-egosi na anyị bụ ndị ọrụ. A na m
arụkarị ọrụ n'ebe ụfọdụ n'oge ezumike, dịka ọmụmaatụ na Daimler.

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M na-arụkarị ọrụ n'ebe ọ bụla n'oge ezumike, ma na
Daimler ma ọ bụ n'ebe ndị ọzọ, a nyere gị kaadị njirimara

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site na Daimler n'ihi na e ji gị rụọ ọrụ ebe ahụ n'oge ahụ.

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Ma nke a bụ kpọmkwem otu ihe ahụ dị ka ụlọ ọrụ
azụmahịa BRD, nke na-enye ndị mmadụ kaadị njirimara kwekọrọ.

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Ma nke ahụ doro anya na-egosi na anyị bụ naanị ndị ọrụ.

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Kla.TV: Ya mere, ọ bụkwa onye enweghị steeti.

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MH: Ma na-enweghị steeti kwa.

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Kla.TV: Ya mere, ọ bụrụ na ugbu a anyị nwere naanị otu ụlọ ọrụ na
Federal Republic of Germany ma enweghị ezigbo ụkpụrụ iwu, kama

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nwee naanị iwu nchịkwa iji kwado udo na usoro ọha, ka m kwuo ya
n'ụzọ a: kedu ohere iji laghachi na German Reich

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n'eziokwu, na ụkpụrụ iwu n'eziokwu nke ka dị irè taa, na-enye
ndị German ma ọ bụ ndị obodo German? Ọ̀ dị mkpa ọbụna?

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Ọ̀ bụ naanị akwụkwọ ochie jupụtara ájá, ma ọ
bụ na ọ nwere ihe dị mkpa ọ ga-agwa anyị taa?

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MH: Nke ahụ dị ezigbo mkpa.

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N'ezie, ọ dị ezigbo mkpa iru ọnọdụ udo, yana ọnọdụ agha,
site n'akwụkwọ nkwekọrịta udo. Nke ahụ bụ ihe a chọrọ tupu.

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Mgbe ahụ, site n'echiche iwu mba ụwa, anyị ga-abụkwa steeti
ọzọ, steeti a nabatara. Ma anyị ga-enwetakwa ikike steeti ọzọ,

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nke anyị enweghị ugbu a n'okwu nke Federal Republic of Germany.

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N'eziokwu, anyị niile ndị Jamanị enweghị steeti.

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O nwere ike iyi ihe na-apụghị ikweta, ma ọ bụ eziokwu.

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Mgbe ahụ, anyị ga-enweta ọzọ ikike ndị edere
n'akwụkwọ ụkpụrụ iwu na nnwere onwe n'okpuru iwu mba ụwa.

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Ma ụkpụrụ iwu a nwere ike iyi ochie, sitere na 1871,
ma eleghị anya oge agafeela ya ntakịrị, mana ọ bụghị.

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E nwere nnukwu ihe ịga nke ọma.

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Ma ebe ahụ, dịka ọmụmaatụ, ha kwurukwa maka
otú ọnọdụ ụtụ isi si dị na Alaeze Jamanị.

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E nwere naanị 4% ụtụ ahịa.

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Enweghị ụtụ isi ego ọ bụla, e nwere naanị
obere ụtụ isi ego maka ego karịrị ókè ụfọdụ.

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Nke ahụ pụtara, ka m nye gị ihe atụ: ma ọ bụrụ na e
nwere naanị 4% VAT, ka anyị were ọnụahịa mmanụ ụgbọala.

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Ọ bụrụ na anyị na-ekwu maka taa, m nwere diesel nke ruru ihe
dị ka 1.70, ị nwere ike ịgbakọ ya n'onwe gị: ma ọ bụrụ na ịnwere

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naanị 4% VAT, mgbe ahụ ọnụahịa mmanụ ga-adị kpamkpam iche.

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Taa, e nwere ihe dị ka sentị 80 nke ụtụ
isi, karịsịa na mmanụ ụgbọala, ma m nwere ihe

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dị ka sentị 70 maka ọnụahịa mmanụ ụgbọala.

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Ya mere, echere m na nke a bụ naanị otu ihe atụ
nke na-egosi na ọ na-enye nnukwu uru nye ndị German.

17:28.133 --> 17:33.360
Ma n'ezie, ọ bụkwa maka akụkụ ego, nke ahụ doro anya.

17:33.360 --> 17:43.060
Ya mere, n'oge ahụ, onye na-enweta penshọn nwere euro 3,000
nkezi kwa ọnwa, dịka ọmụmaatụ, mgbe e gbanwere ya na euro.

17:43.060 --> 17:51.000
Echere m na onye penshon nkezi enweghị ihe ọ bụla megide
ya; ụfọdụ n'ezie nwere ihe karịrị, mana ha bụ ndị pụrụ iche.

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Ọ bụrụ na ị nwere ike inweta penshọn dị mma ebe a na-enweghị
ịkwụ nnukwu ụtụ isi, nke ahụ bụkwa nnukwu nsogbu maka anyị, ma ọ

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bụrụ na ị na-ele ọtụtụ ndị na-anakọta karama na ndị ọzọ anya.

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Ya mere, nke ahụ nwere ọtụtụ uru.

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Anyị nwere ike iji ọkara elekere ọzọ kwuo
maka uru ndị ahụ, ma n'eziokwu, uru naanị ka dị.

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Ma achọrọ m naanị ikwu otu ihe dị mkpa a.

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Kla.TV: Ugbu a maka ajụjụ ọzọ. Yabụ, ọ bụrụ na
Federal Republic of Germany bụ naanị ụlọ ọrụ, a

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debanyere ya dị ka ụlọ ọrụ, ụlọ ọrụ nwere oke ma ọ bụ gịnị?

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MH: A naghị edebanye ya dị ka ụlọ ọrụ e ji ókè, kama a debanyere
ya dị ka ụlọ ọrụ. Kla.TV: A debanyere ya dị ka ụlọ ọrụ.

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Anyị nwere naanị ụdị ụkpụrụ ụlọ, ihe owuwu nke na-ahazi
naanị ndụ anyị ọnụ, mana ọ nweghị akwụkwọ ụkpụrụ isi.

18:44.546 --> 18:49.240
Ya mere, gịnị ka anyị ga-eme
gbasara nnukwu ụgwọ mba anyị na-eche ihu?

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Ha dị mkpa nye anyị n'eziokwu mgbe ahụ?

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Ọ̀ bụghị ihe nke ụlọ ọrụ ahụ, ọ bụghị nke ndị
bi ebe ahụ, ndị bụ ndị obodo Germany n'eziokwu?

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Gịnị ka nke ahụ gbasara? Ọ metụtara ya?

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MH: Nke ahụ bụ ajụjụ dị ezigbo mma. Laghachiri na ngalaba ego.

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Ụgwọ mba ma ọ bụ ụgwọ ụlọ ọrụ azụmahịa
a abụghị ihe metụtara Alaeze Germany.

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Ha adịghị adị n'eziokwu. N'echiche, ha adịghịzi adị.

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Ndị na-akwụ ụtụ isi na Germany ga-akwụ n'etiti €10,000
na €15,000 kwa afọ naanị maka ụgwọ mgbazinye a dị egwu.

19:31.560 --> 19:34.600
Echere m na nke ahụ ga-abara ụlọ ọ bụla ezigbo uru.

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Ma ụgwọ ndị a, n'ezie, abụghị ihe metụtara Alaeze Ndị
Jamanị, n'ihi na Alaeze Ndị Jamanị bara ọgaranya ma nwee ike

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ịghọ ọgaranya ọzọ ma ọ bụrụ na e haziri ihe niile nke ọma.

19:45.280 --> 19:54.241
Kla.TV: Ọ dị mma. Nke a ka ọ dị ugbu a. Onye isi ala
US, Donald Trump, na ọchịchị ya na-enwe nnukwu obi ebere

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maka nnwere onwe na ikike ịtọ onwe ha nke ndị Europe.

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N'oge kacha nso na Nzukọ Nchekwa Munich.

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Vance kwukwara okwu ike n'akụkụ nnwere onwe
mgbasa ozi na ihe ndị a niile, gụnyere ime ka

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ọchịchị bụrụ nke ọha na eze na ihe ndị yiri ya.

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N'echiche gị, kedu nzọụkwụ ndị ọchịchị Trump ga-emerịrị iji mee
ka Germany na ndị German nwee udo yiri nke a na

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nkwekọrịta udo, ka ha wee nwee ike iweghachite nnwere
onwe ha na ọchịchị onwe ha ma bụrụkwa steeti ọzọ?

20:27.446 --> 20:35.580
Ya mere, ụkpụrụ ndị a niile, nke doro anya na unu
tufuru n'ime akụkọ ihe mere eme, dịka unu kọwara ugbu a.

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Gịnị ka Trump ga-eme?

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MH: N'ụzọ kpọmkwem, nke a pụtara ndị nnọchiteanya ziri
ezi nke Alaeze Jamanị nke 1871, ndị a ga-ahọrọ site

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n'aka ndị mmadụ n'ntuli aka ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya.

20:47.600 --> 20:50.797
N'onwe m, abụghị m onye na-akwado
òtù ndọrọndọrọ ọchịchị nke ukwuu.

20:50.797 --> 20:57.540
Ị nwekwara ike ime ntuli aka nkeonwe, ka ị wee
nwee ike ịtụ vootu maka onye ịchọrọ ka ọ nọ ebe ahụ.

20:57.540 --> 21:02.860
Ma, n'ezie, ndị Allies ga-anọdụ n'elu tebụl n'ọnọdụ ọ bụla.

21:02.860 --> 21:08.033
Ya mere, ndị òtù anọ niile. France anaghị arụ ọrụ dị mkpa.

21:08.033 --> 21:11.673
Russia na America n'ụzọ eke na-arụ ọrụ kacha mkpa.

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N'ebe a, n'ezie, a ga-eme mkparịta ụka doro anya gbasara otu esi
alaghachi n'ụzọ nwayọ nwayọ n'Alaeze Dimokrasị Germany nke 1871.

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Iwu isi a nke 1871, nke e wepụtara na Eprel 1871, a
họpụtara ya n'ụzọ ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya n'etiti òtù dị

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iche iche: Òtù Etiti, onye bu ụzọ CDU, na SPD dịla adị.

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Mgbe ahụ, a kwekwara ka ha votu na Germany ọwụwa anyanwụ.

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Ma e nabatara ya site n'ọtụtụ buru ibu; e nabatara usoro iwu a.

21:43.700 --> 21:48.600
Eze ahụ bụ n'eziokwu naanị onye nnọchiteanya
n'ụwa mpụga. Dị ka onye odeakwụkwọ mba ọzọ.

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Ọ nweghị nnukwu ikike ọ bụla ma ọ bụ ihe yiri ya.

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Na-eche na eze ga-abịa, mgbe ahụ a ga-ewepụ onye n'aka eze.

21:55.240 --> 21:58.360
Ọ bụ alaeze kwekọrọ na ụkpụrụ iwu.

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Ma ebe eze ahụ, dịka m kwuru, bụ onye na-ekwupụta okwu n'èzí ụwa.

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Ma ihe ndị fọdụrụ a na-ekpebi n'ụzọ
ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya dịka nke ahụ.

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N'ime Reichstag, dịka anyị ka nwere ya taa, n'ụzọ.

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Reichstag, a na-akpọ ya Reichstag
na Berlin n'enweghị ihe kpatara ya.

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Ndị nnọchiteanya kwadoro nke Reichstag
ga-emegharịkwa ide mgbanwe iwu, kpebie ntuziaka

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wdg. n'ime usoro ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya.

22:23.940 --> 22:28.860
Ya mere, ọ dịghị mkpa ichegbu onwe gị na a
ga-ebuga gị azụ n'Oge Ọchịchịrị ma ọ bụ ihe yiri ya.

22:28.860 --> 22:32.100
Ọ bụ ezie na ọ bụ n'oge ahụ, a na-achịkwa ya
n'ụzọ ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya nke ukwuu.

22:32.100 --> 22:41.328
Kla.TV: Ee, ya mere, ọ bụrụ na m ghọtara nke ọma, Onye isi ala
Donald Trump ga-eme ka o doo anya, ma ọ bụrụ na ọ na-echegbu onwe

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ya maka nnwere onwe ndị Europe, na, dịka
ọmụmaatụ, ndị nnọchiteanya German Reich bịa

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n'elu tebụl ka e wee kwurịta nkwekọrịta udo.

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Gịnị ọzọ ka ọ ga-eme?

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MH: Ee, n'ezie, otu ọnọdụ dị mkpa na
Germany bụ na USA na-ejide anyị nke ukwuu.

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E nwere ihe karịrị ọdụ agha iri atọ, ọdụ agha buru ibu nọ ebe a.

23:08.646 --> 23:12.600
Ọnụọgụ ndị agha ga-eru karịa nke ndị
agha Britain n'oge na-adịghị anya.

23:12.600 --> 23:16.286
Ya mere, ị gaghị ekwu na anyị adịghị arụsi ọrụ ike.

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Anyị jupụtara nke ọma. Ị nwere ike ịhụ nke a
site na ọtụtụ ebe agha. Enweghị ihe gbanwere.

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A na-akpọ ya Iwu Agha, nke ka na-arụ ọrụ taa.
A gụnyere ya na Akwụkwọ Iwu Gọọmenti Federal.

23:26.300 --> 23:32.340
Enyochala m ihe niile a nke ọma. Ya mere, dị ka mole ka m dị.

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E jiri m ụbọchị ole na ole n'ụlọ
akwụkwọ iwu wee chọta isi mmalite ndị a.

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E kwuru kwa na Federal Law Gazette nke 1994 na ihe niile
ga-anọgide dị ka ọ dị. Anyị ga-anọgide n'okpuru njikwa.

23:44.520 --> 23:52.700
Ya mere, a na-ejide anyị n'eziokwu na n'iwu.

23:52.700 --> 23:57.700
Ma Trump agaghị ewepụ ndị agha ya ebe a
ruo mgbe anyị ga-enweta nkwekọrịta udo.

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A ghaghị idozi nke ahụ. Ọ gaghị eme ihe ọ bụla ruo mgbe ahụ.

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E nwere ọtụtụ olu na-ekwu, ee, ndị
America, oge eruola ka unu laghachiri n'ụlọ.

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Nke ahụ agaghị arụ ọrụ n'ihi na anyị nọ n'ógbè ndị agha jidere.

24:11.106 --> 24:17.200
Ma ọ gaghị eme ihe ọ bụla ruo mgbe
anyị ga-eme nkwekọrịta udo banyere nke a.

24:17.200 --> 24:22.886
Ma mgbe ahụ, anyị nwere ike
iweghachite nnwere onwe anyị nke n'eziokwu.

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Kla.TV: Ya mere, ọ bụrụ na m ghọtara nke ọma,
Donald Trump na ọchịchị ya ga-eme ka ndị

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nnọchiteanya iwu kwadoro kwurịta nkwekọrịta udo.

24:34.120 --> 24:40.226
Mgbe ahụ, ọ ga-emerịrị ka o kwụsị ọnọdụ
nchịkwa ahụ n'ụzọ ụfọdụ. MH: Kwụsị. Kla.TV: Kwụsị.

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Kwụsịrị ma, n'eziokwu, mee ka Germany nwee
ike ịrụ ọrụ ọzọ dịka ụkpụrụ iwu 1871 ya si

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kwuo na ụlọ ọrụ steeti e guzobere n'oge ahụ.

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Ọ̀ ghọtara m nke ọma? MH: Ị ghọtara nke ọma.

24:58.286 --> 25:02.060
Echiche bụ isi nke Trump. E kpọtụrụ m ya otu ugboro.

25:02.060 --> 25:05.180
O zara m ozugbo. E jụrụ m anya.

25:05.180 --> 25:09.952
Mgbe ụbọchị ole na ole gachara, ọ zara m. Ọ bụ site na ozi-e.

25:09.952 --> 25:16.680
O doro anya n'etiti ahịrịokwu na ọ na-ekwu naanị,
"Ọ dị mma, ndị Jamanị, nke a bụkwa azụmahịa unu."

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Achọghị m itinye aka nke ukwuu ma ọ bụ ịtọ iwu.

25:20.813 --> 25:25.926
Ọ nwere ọtụtụ ihe ọ ga-eme na Amerịka, na United States.

25:25.926 --> 25:36.960
Ya mere, e gosiri na ọ bụ n'eziokwu n'aka ndị Jamani
ka ha laghachiri ebe ahụ ma weghachite nnwere onwe ha.

25:36.960 --> 25:45.856
Ma n'ezie, nke a kwe omume naanị na mkparịta ụka na
Putin n'oge a. Na Trump. N'ihi na ha ka bụ iwu kwadoro.

25:45.856 --> 25:52.480
Kla.TV: Ọ dị mma. Ya mere, Trump
ga-ekweta na Putin gbasara ajụjụ Germany.

25:52.480 --> 25:56.126
Ekwesịkwara ka e nwee mkparịta
ụka. Ọ ga-abụ isiokwu mkparịta ụka.

25:56.126 --> 26:08.556
Ha abụọ ahụ, o yikarịrị ka ha ga-ejikọta Great Britain na France,
ga-emerịrị mkpebi ọnụ, sị, "Ị nwere ike ịlaghachi ịbụ ihe ị

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bụbu, dịka iwu ndabere ochie si dị, nke ka dị, ma rụọ ọrụ ọzọ."

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Ma ọ bụrụ na m ghọtara nke ọma, mbọ ahụ ga-esi n'aka
ike na-achị ala ahụ pụta, nke ga-eme ka o kwe omume.

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MH: Ma abụọ. Ọ bụ usoro ịbịarute ọnụ.

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Ma, n'ezie, onye ga-ewere nzọụkwụ mbụ.

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Ọ bụ nnukwu obere nzọụkwụ maka m ịkpọtụrụ ya ọbụna.

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Ma ọ maara kpọmkwem ihe na-eme.

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N'ihi na n'oge omeiwu gara aga, o kwuru na
n'eziokwu o choro inye Germany nkwekorita udo.

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Eziokwu na ọ dị ugbu a n'aka ya, enwere
ike ime ya kemgbe ogologo oge gara aga.

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Ma o kọwara ya n'okwu, ma ana m
ekwenye na ọtụtụ mmadụ maara ya kwa.

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Ma ọtụtụ n'ime ha eleghị anya emeghị ihe ọ bụla gbasara ya
n'ihi na ha chere na anyị nwere ihe dị ka nkwekọrịta udo.

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Ọ naghị ekwu nke ahụ n'efu. Ha
maara kpọmkwem ihe na-eme na Germany.

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Ma Putin ekwuola na ọnọdụ a na ọ
ga-achọkwa imechi nkwekọrịta udo. Na Germany.

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Ọ maghị onye ọ ga-ede ya aha. N'oge ahụ, ọ bụ oge Merkel.

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Ma ọ bụghị onye nnọchiteanya kwadoro nke German Reich.

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Nke a bụ ihe kpatara o ji kwuo ya nke ọma
n'ụzọ gbara gburugburu. Ị ga-elebara nke ahụ anya.

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Kla.TV: Ma kedu ka ọchịchị US na Federashọn Russia ga-esi
kwado nke a, ka ndị nnọchiteanya kwesịrị ekwesị bịa n'elu tebụl?

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MH: Dị ka m kwuru, nke a bụ n'ezie ihe metụtara ndị German.

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Enwere m ndị enyi nọ ebe ahụ bụ ndị nwere ezigbo
kọntaktị na ụlọ nkwari akụ United States dị na Russia.

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Ha kwuru na anyị nwere ike ịgwa Putin
okwu n'otu ọkwa. Ọ dị mepere emepe.

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Ọ bụrụ na anyị zitere ndị nnọchiteanya,
ọbụlagodi naanị maka oge ụfọdụ, ọ gaghị emechi ọnụ ụzọ.

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Anyị emeela ka nke ahụ doo anya nye ndị nọ na
embasi na onwe anyị, ka e si kwuo. Ụzọ mepere emepe.

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Ọ dị n'aka anyị ijide n'aka na a na-anabata anyị dịka ndị hà,
na anyị na-eme nzọụkwụ ndị a kwa, na anyị na-arịọ onwe anyị aka.

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Nke ahụ na-apụta nwayọ nwayọ maka Germany.

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Kla.TV: Isiokwu na-atọ ụtọ, Dọkịta Haug.

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Ọ dị mma. Ị nwekwara ike ịgụ banyere ọtụtụ
n'ime ihe ndị a, o yiri ka ọ dị n'akwụkwọ gị.

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MH: Ihe niile dị n'ime ya, akwụkwọ iwu niile, akụkọ ihe
mere eme, achọpụtakwara m ihe niile nke ọma nke ukwuu.

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Abụghị m onye na-enweghị mmejọ. E nwere mgbe
niile ihe ndị onye ọzọ maara nke ọma karịa m.

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Ọ dị ezigbo mma, obi dị m ụtọ banyere nke
ahụ. Ana m eme mbipụta ọhụrụ mgbe niile.

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Nke a bụ mbipụta nke abụọ, nke m gbasịrị ma mee
ka ọ baa ụba dum site n'ịgbakwunye nghọta ndị ọzọ.

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Ma ihe niile dị n'ime ya e nyochachara nke ọma.

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Kla.TV: Ọ dị ezigbo mma. Dọkịta Haug, daalụ nke ukwuu maka
inye anyị ntakịrị nghọta banyere ihe nzuzo nke Alaeze Jamanị.

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N'ezie, anyị ka na-emetụta elu ya
naanị, mana ọ masịrị m ịnụ banyere ya.

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Nke a pụtara na ọrụ ahụ dị ugbu a n'aka ndị Jamanị onwe ha.

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Ma ndị ọchịchị na-achị ala ndị ahụ dị
njikere ige ntị na ịkwado ihe ndị a.

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MH: N'agbanyeghị. Dabere na ahụmịhe m, n'agbanyeghị.

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Ma ọ bụghị ya, azịza ahụ agaghị abịa ngwa ngwa dị otú ahụ
na Trump, dịka ọmụmaatụ, na ndị nnọchiteanya si Russia.

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Kla.TV: Ọ dị mma. MH: Daalụ nke ukwuu. Kla.TV: Ee, nnọọ.
MH: Achọrọ m ikwu n'oge a na m nwere ike ịkekọrịta ihe.

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Ka nọ n'elu. O nwere ike ịbụ na a ga-enwe ajụjụ ọnụ ndị
ọzọ ebe anyị ga-abanye ntakịrị miri emi ebe a na ebe ahụ.

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Ọ dabere. Nke ahụ ga-enyere aka. Daalụ nke ukwuu.

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Kla.TV: Ọ dị mma. Daalụ maka ịdị njikere gị. MH: Daalụ.
