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Kla.TV: Gqirha Haug, enkosi kakhulu
ngokuthatha ixesha lokuthetha nathi namhlanje.

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Ungumbhali wencwadi ethi Das Deutsche Reich
1871 bis heute (Ubukhosi baseJamani ukusukela

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ngo-1871 kude kube namhlanje). Kude kube namhlanje?

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Gqirha Haug, kukho impikiswano enkulu ejikeleze ibango lokuba
iRiphabliki yeManyano yaseJamani ayililo ilizwe, ukuba inayo

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kuphela iMthetho oSisiseko kodwa ayinayo
imithetho-siseko, ukuba ayinaso isivumelwano sexolo, ukuba

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ayinazo imida yesizwe ecacisiweyo kwaye ayizimele.

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NamaJamani nabo abangenabuzwe.

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Njengelizwi eliphikisayo kwibali elixhaphakileyo, nceda ucacisele
ababukeli ngokufutshane nangokucacileyo uluvo lwakho malunga

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nokuba ukubakho okuqhubekayo kweGerman Reich kuthetha ntoni kuwe,
nokuba le micimbi iphikisanayo necatshulwa

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kakhulu inento yokwenza ntoni nokubakho
okuqhubekayo kweGerman Reich, ngokokuqonda kwakho.

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Matthes Haug: Okokuqala, enkosi kakhulu ngomemo, Mnu. Matten.

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Ewe, ndibhale incwadi ethi Ukususela ngo-1871 ukuza Kuthi
Ga, kuba iMbuso yamaJamani yasekwa ngo-1871 kwiHolo yeeZibuko

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eVersailles phantsi koBismarck noMlawuli-mbuso uWilhelm I.

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Yayivunyiwe, yamkelwa ngamazwe angama-46 abameli
bawo babekhona apho yaye bayamkela, iMbuso yaseJamani.

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Kwaye le Mbuso yaseJamani ayizange iyekiswe.

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Ayinakuncitshiswa kwaphela, kuba oku kungafuna imithetho
ekwabhalwe kumgaqo-siseko ka-1871, imigaqo-nkqubo

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malunga nokuba, umzekelo, umgaqo-siseko unokuncitshiswa njani.

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Lo mgaqo-siseko awuzange uchithwe.

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Kwaza kwalandela iMfazwe yokuQala yeHlabathi,
yaye emva kwayo, eneneni, kwaba sisiphumo nje somlo.

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Akuzange kubekho isivumelwano sokwenene soxolo.
Isivumelwano saseVersailles sasingesiso isivumelwano soxolo.

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Ngoko yayisisiphumo nje sokuphelisa umlilo. Kwaye
ke, iMbuso yaseJamani isaqhubeka ikho nanamhlanje.

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Maganekwa ukudideka neThird Reich. Ezi zimbini zihlala zidideka.
IThird Reich noBukhosi baseJamani buka-1871 azinanto yakwenza.

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Endaweni yoko, imvelaphi yayo ibalekela kulo mbuso kuphela,
oqhubekileyo ukubakho ngaphandle kwenkohliso kude kube namhlanje.

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Kla.TV: Ngokoluvo lwakho, zeziphi iindlela
ezinokwenzeka neziphumo ezivela kwinto yokuba

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uBukhosi baseJamani buqhubeka bukho nanamhlanje?

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Ngaba zikhona na amathuba akhethekileyo abemi okubumba ikamva?

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MH: Kukho amathuba amakhulu kakhulu. Kwaye
xa sijonga ngokobumthetho kuphela, eli

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asilolizwi lam, kodwa yinyaniso esemthethweni.

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Ngoko ke, xa sijonga ngokomthetho
kuphela, umgaqo-siseko ka-1871 nawo uyasebenza.

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Kuba eli Bhotwe laseJamani lisemfazweni, ngokomgaqo, nanamhlanje.
Likhona nje kwimeko yokunqumama kwemfazwe, oko kukuthi.

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Kwaye kuphela lo Mbuso waseJamani
onokuphinda usayine isivumelwano soyolo.

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IRiphabliki yeManyano yayingekabikho ngelo xesha.

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Ngokungqongqo, yasekwa kuphela ngomhla wesi-3
kuJanuwari 1950, emva kokuba konyulwe incwadi

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yokugqibela yokuvunywa eyayisenzelwe amaBritane.

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Ngoko ke umntu ucinga ukuba yasekwa ngo-1949.

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Ndiwuphande ngokucokisekileyo konke
oku, ndaza ndakubeka ngokuchaneke kakhulu.

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Ndinomdla kuphela kwiinyaniso, akukho nto
yimbi. Ndingusosayensi ngokwaneleyo ngaloo ndlela.

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Yiyo loo nto iRiphabliki yeFederali ingazange
isekwe de kwaba ngomhla wesi-3 kuJanuwari 1950.

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Kungoko ke akunakwenzeka ukutyikitya
isivumelwano soxolo, njengoko iRiphabliki yeFederali

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yaseJamani ingazange ibe ngutshaba emfazweni.

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Kwaye isivumelwano sexolo kumele silandele emva kwemfazwe.

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Kwaye oku kufuna abameli abasemthethweni beReich yaseJamani.

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Kla.TV: Kwaye aba bameli basemthethweni
babengekho nokubakho kwezi ngxoxo zoxolo.

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Kukho into ebizwa ngokuba sisivumelwano se-2 plus
4. Ingaba konke bekusizicelo, njengoko besithi?

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MH: NgesiJamani, "Für den Katz" ayithethi "yekatse".

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Ewe, lo ngumba owahlukileyo.

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Abameli besivumelwano soxolo babengaze babe khona.

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Loo nto ibiya kuba nguMlawuli uWilliam
Wokuqala okanye uMlawuli uWilliam Wesibini.

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Owokuqala walandelwa nguWilliam II.

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Ngoko ke, loo nto ibinokuba
ngummi omele abanye ngokusemthethweni.

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Noko ke, waya emvunulweni, ngoko ke
wayengasekho apha kwaye engasafikeleleki.

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Yaye iRiphabliki yaseWeimar yachazwa nje ngokuchasene
nomgaqo-siseko osemthethweni ka-1871. Oku akunakwenzeka phantsi

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komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe kunye nomthetho womgaqo-siseko.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kwakungekho mmeli
usemthethweni woBukhosi baseJamani bango-1871.

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Aba babengamagosa ezopolitiko abangamakhwapha
nabantu ababengenalo naliphi na igunya lokutyikitya

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isivumelwano sexolo seMbuso yaseJamani ngo-1871.

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Emva koko baxoxa, kwaye ngoku siza kwenza
isitsiba esifutshane, iSivumelwano seMibini Plus Mne.

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Ngokungqongqo, ibizwa ngokuba yiSivumelwano seMine
kunye neMibini. Yiloo nto abayibiza ngayo amaLungu.

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Ngoko ke, amaNzala amane, iSoviet Union,
iNgilani, iFransi kunye ne-USA, kunye ne-FRG,

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iRiphabliki yeFederali yaseJamani kunye ne-GDR.

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Ezi zinto bezijolise ekusekeni iJamani emanyeneyo ngokungqinelana
nesi sivumelwano. Loo nto ibiya kuba yinto enokuvunywa.

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Ngale ndlela, iJamani emanyeneyo ayizange ifezekiswe.

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Kuba iJamani emanyeneyo ithetha
iJamani iphela njengoko yayinjalo ngo-1871.

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Oko kukunye ngokupheleleyo.

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IGermany yahlulwa yaba ngamacandelo
amathathu emva kweMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi.

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IRiphabliki yeFederal yaseJamani, eyayifudula iyiRiphabliki
yeDemokhrasi yaseJamani, okanye iJamani ePhakathi ukuthetha ngqo.

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Kwaye imimandla eyayilawulwa yiJamani eMpuma ngaphaya kwePoland.

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Kwaye akukho nto itshintshileyo ngaloo mba kude kube namhlanje.

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Ngoko ke, iJamani emanyeneyo yayingenakudaliswa yiFRG ngesinye
nje salezi zicanda zithathu, okanye kwanangezininzi zazo.

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Kwaye ke bahlala besithi esi Sivumelwano
seMine Plus Mbini, neMbini Plus Mine, siza kuba

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sisivumelwano soxolo esifana nesivumelwano.

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Akukho nto injengisivumelwano soxolo esingaphelelanga.
Sibizwa ngokucacileyo njengesivumelwano soxolo.

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Kwaye ekugqibeleni, esi sivumelwano
asizange sivunywe ngabo bonke abathathi-nxaxheba.

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Kuphela ngeRashiya. Okunika umdla kakhulu.

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YiRashiya yodwa eyamkela esi sivumelwano.

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Kwaye uGenscher, owayenguNobhala
Wezangaphandle weRiphabliki yeFederal yaseJamani ngelo

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xesha, akazange ayiqinisekise ngokwemigaqo-nkqubo.

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Kufuneka usayine apha ngokupheleleyo, nto
leyo awenzileyo kwisivumelwano esiphambili.

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Xa kufikwa ekuqinisekiseni, wafaka iinitshisi zakhe
kuphela. Akukho gama lakhe lokuqala, akukho nto yimbi.

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Kwaye xa sithetha ngqo, oko kungaphikisana nemimiselo.

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Kwaye ke esi sivumelwano asizange sisungulwe
ngokusemthethweni. Yiloo nto ebalulekileyo.

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Kla.TV: Gqirha Haug, ukuba ndikuqondile
kakuhle, umgaqo-siseko ka-1871 usasebenza nanamhlanje.

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Kodwa ke, yintoni iMthetho oSisiseko? Inentsingiselo enjani?

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MH: UMthetho Osisiseko usekelwe kwiSivumelwano
saseHague. Oko ngumthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Ulawula imeko yemfazwe neemeko zasemva kwemfazwe.

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Kla.TV: I-HLKO ithetha ntoni? MH:
ISivumelwano saseHague soMlo waseMhlabeni.

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Ingaba umhlali kufuneka anike abahlali umgaqo-siseko?

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Ukugcina ucwangco, ingqeqesho noxolo. Yindlela ekuchazwa ngayo.

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Yiyo loo nto ibizwa ngokuba yiBasic Law yeFederal Republic
yaseJamani, hayi iBasic Law yeFederal Republic yaseJamani.

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Ngoko ke, lilungelo lomhlali elo. Mbalelwano emfutshane.

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Utata wam wayemazi uCarlo Schmidt,
ekuthiwa ngomnye wabasunguli boMthetho oSiseko.

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Wayelilungu eliphezulu lombutho
wobudlelwane wobuzalwana bakayise.

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Kwaye, esenomdla kancinci ngenxa
yemibhiyozo, watyhila iimfihlo ezithile.

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Wathi ke, uyazi, sasivunyelwe ukongeza iimpawu zokuphela kwamazwi
neekhoma. Konke okunye kwakusele kugqitywe kwangaphambili.

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Abalingane ngokwendalo bafuna ukubumba lo
mgaqo-siseko ngokwezinto ezibaxhasayo. Oko kucacile, ewe.

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Ngoko ke, le yintetho ethe ngqo kaCarlo
Schmidt malunga notata wam njengomngqina.

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Kwaye kusatsho kwisiCandelo 120 soMthetho oSiseko
namhlanje ukuba urhulumente womanyano uhlawula iindleko

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zokuhlala. Oko kukuthi, kuhlelo lwangoku luka-2025.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ukuba kufuneka uhlawule
iindleko zokuhlala, nathi ke siye sibe nomsebenzi.

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Asinayo imithetho-siseko.

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Kuba, ngokwemigqaliselo yomthetho wamazwe
ngamazwe, urhulumente ofanelekileyo unabemi,

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imida, amaziko karhulumente kunye nomgaqo-siseko.

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Ngokungqongqo, iRiphabliki yeFederali
ayikazalisekisi nanye kwezi zinto zintathu. Asisosizwe,

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kuba bonke abemi bayo bangabemi beReich yaseJamani.

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Abo banokungqina oku ngolwalathiso lwabo lwezizukulwana.

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Ngoko ke iRiphabliki yeFederal ngokwayo
ayinalo umthetho wobuzwe osemthethweni.

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Kwaye nemida yesizwe ayikho. Kuba imida yesizwe, imida
yesizwe yokwenene, yadalwa liBhotwe laseJamani ngo-1871.

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Kwaye ke iRiphabliki yeFederali yasekwa njengomqulu
wolawulo, njengommandla wezoqoqosho. Ngamandla abathimba ilizwe.

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Kwaye amandla anqunyulayo akanalo
ilungelo lokunyanzelisa ilizwe elitsha kulo.

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Ngoko ke, ngokwembono yomthetho wamazwe
ngamazwe, iMbuso yaseJamani ka-1871 ayitshintshanga.

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Kla.TV: Ngoko ke, ukuba ndikuqonda kakuhle, iRiphabliki
yeFederali yaseJamani yinto nje eyasekwa ngokwolawulo,

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masithi, ngamandla aphumeleleyo ukuze kugcinwe ucwangco loluntu.

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Oko kundisa kumbuzo wam olandelayo.

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Kuba abaqinisekisi beenyani abathi ngokwabo bahlala bexoxa
ngelithi urhulumente namagunya akhe kufuneka babe ziinkampani.

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Kusoloko kuthiwa iRiphabliki yeFederal
yaseJamani yinkampani enomda okanye into efana

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naleyo, ikorporasiyo. Ukuze ikwazi ukwenza izinto.

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Ukuze kungabikho kulahleka kwenkululeko okanye
ubuzwe-mbuso okunxulumene nayo. Ukuze kungabikho kulahleka.

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Kodwa wena uyibona njani? Ingaba oku ngoku, le nto
thina, masithi, siyinkampani nje kwaye sinayo nekhadi

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lokuzazisa, ingaba oko luphawu lwalo mqulu wolawulo?

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Kwaye ukuba thina asilulo ilizwe lokwenene,
nokuba iRiphabliki yeManyano yaseJamani ayililo

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ilizwe kwaphela, kodwa iyunithi nje yolawulo?

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Ingaba oko luphawu lwale nto?

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MH: Ngokuqinisekileyo oko luphawu lwaloo nto.

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Ngelo xesha, ngo-1990, ngexesha loku kuthiwa ngumanyano,
olungazange lwenzeke, uMphathiswa Wezangaphandle waseMelika kunye

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noMphathiswa Wezangaphandle waseJamani, oko kukuthi weSoviet
Union, basebenzisa ilungelo labo lokuba ngamaLungu oManyano

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lokubeka umqathango baza basusa uMthetho oSiseko
bengawufakanga omnye endaweni yawo, besusa umda

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wokusetyenziswa kwawo, iSigaba 23, apho kwakuchazwe khona oku.

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Umthetho ngamnye ufuna umda wokusetyenziswa ocacisiweyo.

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I-GDR yayinomgaqo-siseko. Kwaye lo yayisikwe
kwelinye iceba, ngokungathi kukhutshelwa isiphasiphothi.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ukusukela ngalo mzuzu, ngomhla we-18 kaJulayi
1990, xa kwenzeka oku, okanye ngokuchanekileyo ngomhla we-17

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kaJulayi 1990, ezinzulwini zobusuku zomhla we-18
kaJulayi 1990, iRiphabliki yeFederali

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yaseJamani kunye ne-GDR zabhengezwa njengezingasebenziyo.

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Akukho mntu wayeseneegunya ezipheleleyo.

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Ukususela koMgcini-mali weqela ngalinye ukuqhubela
phambili, akukho mntu wayenagunya, naliphi na igunya

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eliphezulu lokuthetha egameni le-FRG okanye le-GDR.

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Kwaye oku kwafihlwa kubantu baseJamani.

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Kwaye ngaloo nto, kwakungathi kwenzeke kungekho mntu.

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IRiphabliki yeFederali yaseJamani yayingasaphantsi kolawulo
ngokwabasebenzi, kuba amandla amaLungu, ngokwendalo i-United

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States, elona mandla liphambili eloyisileyo
laseNtshona, ayesirhoxisile amagunya ayo olawulo.

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Ngoko ke yayingasaphantsi kolawulo ngaloo ndlela.

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Kwaye uGenscher noKohl baza kubhalisa
iRiphabliki yeFederal yaseJamani njengekhephu eDelaware.

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Kwaye uGenscher wasusa i-BRD
kwiSivumelwano se-UN waza wabhala iJamani.

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Kananjalo njengenkampani. Babhaliswe njengenkampani eDelaware.

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Ungakhangela kwi-UPIC, inkqubo yolwazi
lwamafayile amazwe ngamazwe eenkampani.

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Kwaye kuthiwa apho, uMongameli Steinmeier weRiphabliki yeManyano,
inombolo yenkampani, idilesi yenkampani, ngoko ke zonke

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ziinkampani kuyo yonke indawo, kuba kwafuneka abhalise uKohl
njengenkampani, kuba isiseko somgaqo-siseko sasirhoxisiwe.

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Kla.TV: Gqirha Haug, sibuyela kweli khadi lasemthethweni.

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Ngoko ke, ukuba le khadi lasemthethweni liye
lafana nelikhadi le-ID lenkampani yaseJamani,

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iNkampani yaseJamani, yintoni isizathu saloo nto?

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MH: Kukho imithetho yamazwe ngamazwe ethi kwimeko yokuba
ngamabanjwa, ngokomgaqo singamabanjwa, kude kube ngoku besikule

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meko yokuba ngamabanjwa, mhlawumbi sinenkululeko engaphezulwana
kunale sikuyo ngoku entolongweni, kodwa sinayo loo meko.

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Kwaye kukho imigaqo-nkqubo emiselweyo ethi aba bantu
kufuneka banikwe isazisi okanye uxwebhu lokuhamba.

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Ikhadi elingqina ubuni lityhila ukuba singabasebenzi. Bendisoloko
ndisebenza ndaweni ithile ngeeholide, kwaDaimler, umzekelo.

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Bendisoloko ndisebenza ndaweni ithile ngeeholide,
eDaimler okanye kwenye indawo, kwaye ubunikezelwa

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ngamakhadi esazisi yiDaimler kuba ubusebenza apho ngelo xesha.

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Kwaye oku kuyafana kanye neshishini elirhwebayo
elaziwa ngokuba yiRiphabliki yeFederal yaseJamani,

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elithi emva koko linike abantu ikhadi lokuzazisa.

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Kwaye oko kubonisa ngokucacileyo
ukuba singabasebenzi nje kuphela.

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Kla.TV: Kwaye ke ngoko ingabemi.

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MH: Kwaye bengenabumi.

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Kla.TV: Ngoko ke, ukuba ngoku sinenkampani enye kuphela
kwiRiphabliki yeFederal yaseJamani kwaye kungekho mgaqo-siseko

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wokwenene, kodwa kukho umyalelo wolawulo nje wokugcina uxolo
noxolo loluntu, mandibeke ngolu hlobo: ziziphi iithuba

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ezinokunikwa kukubuyela kwiReich yokwenene yaseJamani,
kumgaqo-siseko wokwenene, osasebenzayo nanamhlanje, kubantu

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baseJamani okanye kubemi baseJamani? Ingaba oku kwanele?

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Ngaba luphepha nje oludala nolunothuli, okanye
lunento ebalulekileyo olufuna ukusixelela namhlanje?

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MH: Oko kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Ewe kona, kubaluleke kakhulu ukufikelela kwimeko
yemfazwe, kwanakwimeko yoxolo, ngokusebenzisa

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isivumelwano soxolo. Loo nto yimfuneko yokuqala.

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Ke, ngokwembono yomthetho wamazwe ngamazwe, siza kuphinda sibe
lilizwe, ilizwe elamkelweyo. Kwaye siza kuphinda

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sibe namalungelo elizwe ahambelanayo esingenalo
okwangoku kwimeko yeRiphabliki yeFederali yaseJamani.

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Ngokwenene asinalo ilizwe, sonke thina amaJamani.

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Isenokungakholeleki, kodwa yinyani.

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Ngoko ke, siza kuphinda sibe namalungelo
omgaqo-siseko nokuzimela phantsi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Kwaye lo mgaqo-siseko usenokubonakala umdala, wango-1871,
kwaye mhlawumbi uphelelwe lixesha kancinci, kodwa akunjalo.

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Kwakukho iimpumelelo ezinkulu.

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Kwaye apho, umzekelo, bathethe kwakhona
ngokuba imeko yerhafu yayinjani kwiMbuso yaseJamani.

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Bekukho irhafu yentengiso eyi-4% kuphela.

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Kwakungekho rhafu yengeniso kwaphela, kwakukho kuphela
ireyithi encinci yerhafu yengeniso engaphezulu komda othile.

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Oko kuthetha ukuthi, mandikunike umzekelo, ukuba
kukho i-4% kuphela ye-VAT, masithathe amaxabiso esibaso.

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Ukuba sithetha ngemali yanamhlanje, ndine-diesel, malunga
ne-1.70, ke ungazibalela ngokwakho: ukuba unayo i-4% ye-VAT

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kuphela, ke amaxabiso esibaso ngoku ngokuwahluke kwaphela.

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Namhlanje, kukho icandelo lerhafu elingama-80 eesenti okanye
ngaphezulu, ngokukodwa kwipetroli, kwaye mna

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ndinexabiso eliphantsi ngokuphindwe kahlanu, ngoko ke
ndikwama-70 eesenti okanye ngaphezulu kwixabiso lepetroli.

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Ngoko ke ndicinga ukuba lo ngumzekelo nje omnye obonisa
ukuba ngokwenene inika iingenelo ezinkulu kubemi baseJamani.

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Kwaye ke, ikwamalungu ezemali, oko kucacile.

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Ngoko ke, ngelo xesha, umhlalaphantsi wayefumana umyinge
wee-euro eziyi-3,000 ngenyanga, umzekelo, xa kwenziwa uguqulo.

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Ndicinga ukuba umthathi-mhlalaphantsi
oqhelekileyo akanankathalo ngayo; abanye eneneni bafumana

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ngaphezulu, kodwa bona babalwa ngeminwe yesandla.

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Ukuba ungafumana umhlalaphantsi olungileyo apha ungahlawulanga
irhafu eninzi, loo nto nayo ingumceli-mngeni omkhulu

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kuthi, xa ujonge abaqokeleli beebhotile abaninzi, njalo njalo.

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Ngoko ke oko kuneenzuzo ezininzi.

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Singathetha ngayo enye imizuzu engamashumi amathathu,
malunga neenzuzo—enyanisweni, zizinto eziluncedo kuphela.

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Kodwa ndingathanda nje ukukhankanya le nkalo ibalulekileyo.

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Kla.TV: Ngoku ke ngombuzo owahlukileyo. Ngoko ke, ukuba
iRiphabliki yeManyano yaseJamani ngokwenene

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yinkampani nje kuphela, ingaba ibhaliswe
njengenkampani, inkampani enomda okanye yintoni?

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MH: Ayibhaliswanga njenge-limited company, ibhaliswe
nje njengenkampani. Kla.TV: Ibhaliswe njengenkampani.

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Kwaye thina sinemigaqo yethu yasekhaya nje
kuphela, eyindlela yokulungelelanisa ubomi

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bethu, kodwa asinaso isigunyaziso esisisiseko.

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Ngoko ke, kuthekani ngetyala lesizwe eloyikekayo esijongene nalo?

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Ingaba zifanelekile kuthi ngokwenene?

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Asiyonto leyo yenkampani, hayi
yabahlali, abemi bokwenene baseJamani?

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Kuthekani ngaloo nto? Ingaba inento yokwenza nayo?

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MH: Lo ngumbuzo olungileyo
kakhulu. Masibuyele kwicandelo lezemali.

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Ityala lesizwe okanye amatyala ale nkampani
yorhwebo ayizinto ezimxhalabisayo uBukhosi baseJamani.

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Azikho nje. Ngokomgaqo, azisekho.

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Abahlawuli berhafu baseJamani kufuneka bahlawule
phakathi kwe-€10,000 ne-€15,000 ngonyaka ngenxa yenzala

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kuphela, ngenxa nje yolu zinga lwenzala luyoyikeka.

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Ndicinga ukuba oko kungaba luncedo kakhulu kuyo yonke indlu.

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Kwaye ezi zibambiso, kakade, azimxhalabisi uBukhosi
baseJamani, kuba uBukhosi baseJamani babutyebi kwaye

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bunokuphinda butyebe ukuba izinto zilawulwa kakuhle.

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Kla.TV: Kulungile. Yile ndlela izinto ezinjalo ngoku. UMongameli
wase-US uDonald Trump kunye nolawulo lwakhe banovelwano

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olukhulu kwinkululeko nokuzimela kwabemi baseYurophu.

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Kutshanje kakhulu kwiNkomfa yezoKhuseleko yaseMunich.

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UVance wayekhe wathetha ngamandla esixhasile
inkululeko yemidiya nazo zonke ezi zinto

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kunye nokwenziwa kwentando yesininzi njalo njalo.

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Ngokoluvo lwakho, ngawaphi amanyathelo olawulo lukaTrump
ekufuneka aluthathe ukuze lwenze iJamani nabantu baseJamani

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bakwazi ukufumana uxolo nesivumelwano soxolo
esifanayo, ukuze bakwazi ukubuyisa inkululeko

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yabo nobukhosi babo baze baphinde babe lilizwe?

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Ngoko ke yonke le migaqo, ekucacileyo ukuba niyilahlekelwe
yiyo ekuhambeni kwembali, njengoko nisandul' ukucacisa.

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Kungathini uTrump ekufuneka akwenze?

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MH: Ngoko ke, ngokukodwa, abameli abasemthethweni boBukhosi
baseJamani bango-1871, abakhethwa ngabantu kunyulo lwedemokhrasi.

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Mna ngokwam, andinguye umxhasi omkhulu wamaqela.

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Ungakwazi nokubamba unyulo lwakho, ukuze uvotele umntu omfunayo.

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Kwaye, ewe kona, amaLungu kufuneka
ahlale phantsi etafileni nangayiphi na imeko.

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Ngoko ke, onke amazwe amane
angamaNgesi. IFransi ayidlali ndima inkulu.

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IRashiya neMelika ngokwendalo zidlala indima ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Kwaye apha, ewe kona, kufuneka kubekho iingxoxo
eziphathekayo malunga nendlela yokubuyela inyathelo

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nenyathelo kwiMbuso yaseJamani yedemokhrasi yango-1871.

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Lo mgaqo-siseko ka-1871, owakhutshwa ngo-Epreli ka-1871,
wanyulwa ngendlela yedemokhrasi phakathi kweqela ezahlukeneyo:

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iCentre Party, eyayiyimbali ye-CDU, kunye ne-SPD zazisele zikho.

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Emva koko bavunyelwa nokuvota kwimpuma Jamani.

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Kwaye yamkelwa ngalinani elikhulu
kakhulu, lo mgaqo-siseko wamkelwa.

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Umbusi wayengummeleli nje kuphela kwihlabathi
langaphandle. Njengomphathiswa wezangaphandle.

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Wayengenalo naliphi na ilungelo
elikhulu okanye into efana naleyo.

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Umntu ucinga ukuba kuza kuvela
ubukumkani, aze ke umntu ahlulwe kuye ukumkani.

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Lilizwe elilawulwa ngukumkani ngokomgaqo-siseko.

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Kodwa apho umlawuli, njengoko
benditshilo, engumlomo wehlabathi langaphandle.

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Kwaye okunye kugqitywa ngendlela efanayo yokuvotelwa.

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E-Reichstag, esisenayo nanamhlanje, ngendlela.

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Reichstag, ayibizwa ngokuba yiReichstag eBerlin ngenxa nje.

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Abameli abasemthethweni beReichstag baya
kuphinda babhale izilungiso zomthetho, bamisele

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izikhokelo, njalo njalo, kwiinkqubo zedemokhrasi.

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Ngoko ke akukho mfuneko yokuba ukhathazeke
ngokubuyela kwimihla yobumnyama okanye nantoni na enjalo.

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Nangoko ke, yayilawulwa ngendlela yedemokhrasi kakhulu.

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Kla.TV: Ewe, ke, ukuba ndiqonda kakuhle, uMongameli uDonald Trump
kuya kufuneka aqinisekise, ukuba unenkxalabo ngenkululeko

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yamaYurophu, ukuba, umzekelo, aba bameli beReich yaseJamani
baphakamisa izihlalo kwaye kuxoxisanwe ngesivumelwano soxolo.

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Kwaye bekunokwenzeka enzeni elinye?

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MH: Ewe, kunjalo, imeko ebalulekileyo eJamani
kukuba thina siphantsi kolawulo olukhulu lwe-USA.

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Kukho iisikhululo zomkhosi ezingaphezu
kwamashumi amathathu, iisikhululo ezikhulu zomkhosi apha.

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Inani lamajoni liza kungekudala lidlule elo loMkhosi waseBritane.

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Ngoko ke, awunakuthi asixakekanga.

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Sithinjwe ngokwenene. Ungakubona oko kwiziseko
ezininzi zemikhosi. Akukho nto itshintshileyo.

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Oku kubhekiselwa kuyo njengoMthetho woMkhosi, osasebenzayo
nanamhlanje. Ikwabandakanyiwe kwiGazete yoMthetho kaRhulumente.

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Ndiwuphande wonke lo mba
ngokucokisekileyo. Ngoko ke ndifana nomhlwa.

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Ndichithe iintsuku kwiilayibrari
zomthetho ndaza ndazifumana ezi zixhobo.

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Kukwatshilo kwiGazete yoMthetho weFederal ka-1994 ukuba
yonke into iza kuhlala injalo. Siza kuhlala sinqanyaziwe.

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Ngoko ke, sihlangatshezwe ngokwenyani nangokusemthethweni.

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Kwaye uTrump akayi kuzirhoxisa iimikhosi
zakhe apha de sibe nesivumelwano sexolo.

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Kufuneka kulungiswe loo nto.
Akukho nto iza kwenzeka de kube njalo.

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Zininzi izizwi ezithi, ewe,
maMelika, lixesha lokuba nibuyele ekhaya.

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Loo nto ayizukusebenza kuba sikwindawo elawulwa ngumkhosi.

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Kwaye akukho nto iza kwenzeka side
siwuxoxe ngalo umcimbi kwisivumelwano soxolo.

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Emva koko singabuyisela ubuzwe bethu obusebenzayo.

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Kla.TV: Ngoko ke, ukuba ndiqonda kakuhle, uDonald Trump
nolawulo lwakhe kufuneka kuqala baqinisekise ukuba

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abameli abasemthethweni bathethathethana ngesivumelwano soyolo.

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Emva koko kuya kufuneka ngandlela ithile arhoxise
imeko yokuthathwa kweziko. MH: Phelisa. Kla.TV: Phelisa.

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Kwaye kuyeke nje, kwaye ngokwenziwa, kuvumele iJamani
ukuba isebenze kwakhona ngokungqinelana nomgaqo-siseko wayo

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ka-1871 kunye namaziko karhulumente awasekwa ngelo xesha.

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Ingaba ndiqondile kakuhle? MH: Uqondile kakuhle.

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Isimo sengqondo esisiseko sikaTrump.
Sendikhe ndaqhagamshelana naye kanye.

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Undiphendule kwangoko. Ndamangaliswa.

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Emva kweentsuku ezimbalwa, wandiphendula. Kwakung nge-imeyile.

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Kwakucacile phakathi kwemigca ukuba wayesithi
nje, kulungile, nina amaJamani, le yinto yenu nani.

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Andifuni kungena kakhulu okanye ukuyalela.

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Unomsebenzi owaneleyo eMelika, kwi-USA.

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Ngoko ke kwavela ukuba kuxhomekeke kakhulu kumaJamani
ukuba abuyele apho baze baphinde bazuze inkululeko yabo.

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Kodwa ke, oku kunokwenzeka kuphela kwiingxoxo
noPutin okwangoku. NoTrump. Kuba ezo zisekho ngokomthetho.

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Kla.TV: Kulungile. Ngoko ke uTrump naye
kufuneka avumelane noPutin ngomba waseJamani.

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Kufuneka kubekho nengxoxo. Kufuneka ibe ngumxholo wencoko.

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Kwaye bobabini, mhlawumbi kunye neBritani enkulu neFransi, kuya
kufuneka ke benza isigqibo kunye, besithi,

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kulungile, ningabuyela ekubeni yile nto ebeniyiyo,
ngokomgaqo-siseko omdala, osakhoyo, kwaye nisebenze kwakhona.

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Kodwa ukuba ndiqonda kakuhle, inyathelo lingaphuma kulawulo
olulawulayo, nto leyo eya kuthi ke yenze kube nokwenzeka.

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MH: Zombini. Yinkqubo yokudibana.

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Kwaye, ewe kona, kufuneka kubekho
umntu othatha inyathelo lokuqala.

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Linyathelo elincinci kakhulu kum ukuba
ndiye ndaqhagamshelana naye kwaphela.

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Kwaye uyazi kakuhle ukuba kwenzeka ntoni.

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Kuba ngexesha lediplomasi elidlulileyo, wathi
eneneni wayefuna ukunika iJamani isivumelwano sexesha.

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Into yokuba ngoku kuxhomekeke kuye ibinokwenziwa kudala.

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Kodwa wakwazi ukukubeka ngamazwi, kwaye
ndiqinisekile ukuba nabantu abaninzi bayakwazi kakuhle nako.

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Kwaye abaninzi mhlawumbi abenzanga nto ngayo kuba
becinga ukuba sinento efana nesivumelwano soxolo.

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Akayithethi loo nto ngaphandle kwesizathu.
Bayazi kakuhle ukuba kwenzeka ntoni eJamani.

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Kwaye uPutin uthe kulo mxholo naye angathanda
ukugqibezela isivumelwano sexolo. NesiSiJamani.

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Akazi nje ukuba angasayinela bani.
Ngelo xesha, yayikukuthatha kukaMerkel.

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Kwaye akayommeli osemthethweni we-German Reich.

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Yiyo loo nto eyibeke ngokucacileyo kodwa
ngendlela ejikayo. Kufuneka uqaphele loo nto.

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Kla.TV: Kodwa ingaba ulawulo lwase-US kunye
neRussian Federation zingakuxhasa njani, ngenxa yam nje,

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ukuba abameli abafanelekileyo nabo beze etafileni?

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MH: Njengoko benditshilo, le ngumba yabantu baseJamani nayo.

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Ndine abahlobo apho abanabantu
abanobudlelwane obuhle kwi-ofisi yozakuzo yaseRashiya.

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Kwaye bathi singathetha noPutin simi ngokulinganayo. Uvulelekile.

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Ukuba sithumela abameli, nokuba kuxa
kwexeshana nje, akayi kulivala ucango.

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Siyibeke elubala loo nto kubantu base-ofisini yozakuzo
nakuthi thina, ukuthetha ngokomfuziselo. Iingcango zivuliwe.

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Kuxhomekeke kuthi ukuba siqinisekise ukuba
samkelwa njengabalingana, ukuba nathi

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sithatha la manyathelo, nokuba siyancokolisana.

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Loo nto iya kancinci isiza eJamani.

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Kla.TV: Ingongoma enomdla, Gqirha Haug.

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Kuhle. Kwaye ungafunda ngezininzi
zezi zinto, mhlawumbi kwincwadi yakho.

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MH: Yonke into ikhona apho, zonke iingxelo zomthetho,
imbali, ndiyiphandile yonke into ngenyameko nangokucokisekileyo.

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Andikho ndingenaziphoso. Kuhlala kukho
izinto umntu othile akwazi ngakumbi ngazo.

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Kuhle kakhulu, ndivuyiswe kakhulu yiloo
nto. Ndihlala ndisenza iinguqulelo ezintsha.

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Olu luhlelo lwesibini, endilwandise ndaza
ndayityebisa yonke into ngemibono eyongezelelweyo.

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Kodwa yonke into ekuyo iphantsi kophando olunzulu.

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Kla.TV: Kuhle kakhulu. Gqirha Haug, enkosi kakhulu
ngokusinika ingqiqo encinci ngemfihlo yeReich yaseJamani.

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Sichukuze nje phezu, ewe, kodwa bekunika umdla ukuva ngayo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ngoku uxanduva luphezu kwamaJamani ngokwawo.

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Kwaye amagunya alawulayo azimisele ukuva nokuxhasa ezi zinto.

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MH: Nokuba kunjani. Lulwam amava.

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Kungenjalo, impendulo ngeingazukufika ngokukhawuleza
kangaka kuTrump, umzekelo, nakubameli baseRashiya.

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Kla.TV: Kulungile. MH: Enkosi kakhulu. Kla.TV:
Ewe, akukho nto. MH: Ndingathanda ukuthi ngalo

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mzuzu ukuba ndikwazile ukudlulisela into ethile.

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Kusekumphandleni. Kusenokwenzeka ukuba kubekho udliwano-ndlebe
olulandelayo apho siya kungena nzulu kancinci apha naphaya.

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Kuxhomekeke. Oko kunganceda. Enkosi kakhulu.

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Kla.TV: Kulungile. Enkosi ngokuzimisela kwakho. MH: Enkosi.