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Kla.TV: Dokotela Haug, ngiyabonga kakhulu
ngokuthatha isikhathi ukukhuluma nathi namuhla.

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Ungumbhali wencwadi ethi Das Deutsche Reich
1871 bis heute (Umbuso WaseJalimane kusukela

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ngo-1871 kuze kube namuhla). Kuze kube namuhla?

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Dkt Haug, kunempikiswano enkulu mayelana nesimangalo sokuthi
iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane ayiyona izwe, ukuthi inayo

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kuphela iBasic Law kodwa ayinayo imithethosisekelo,
ukuthi ayinayo inkontileka yokuthula, ukuthi ayinazo

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imingcele kazwelonke ecacisiwe nokuthi ayinazizimiso zobukhosi.

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AmaJalimane nawo awanazwe.

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Njengomuntu ophikisayo enkulumweni evamile, sicela uchazele
ababukeli ngokufingqiwe nangokucacile umbono wakho wokuthi ukuba

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khona okuqhubekayo kweReich yaseJalimane kusho ukuthini kuwe
nokuthi lezi zindaba eziphikisanayo nezixoxwa

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kabanzi zihambisana kanjani nokuba khona
okuqhubekayo kweReich yaseJalimane, ngokokuqonda kwakho.

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Matthes Haug: Okokuqala, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngomemo, Mnu. Matten.

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Yebo, ngibhale incwadi ethi 1871 kuze kube Namuhla,
ngoba iMbuso yaseJalimane yasungulwa ngo-1871 eHall of

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Mirrors eVersailles ngaphansi kukaBismarck noMbusi uWilhelm I.

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Yamukelwa, yamukelwa ngamazwe angama-46 abamele awo
ababekhona lapho, futhi yamukelwa iMbuso yaseJalimane.

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Futhi lo Mbuso wamaJalimane awukaze uqedwe.

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Akunakuxazululwa nhlobo, ngoba lokhu kuzodinga imithetho efakwe
nakwisimiso somthethosisekelo sango-1871,

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nemihlahlandlela yokuthi, isibonelo,
isimiso somthethosisekelo singaxazululwa kanjani.

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Lo mthethosisekelo awukaze uchithwe.

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Kwabe sekuba neMpi Yezwe Yokuqala, kwathi ngemva
kwalokho empeleni kwaba ukumiswa kwesikhashana kwempi kuphela.

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Akukaze kube nenkontileka yokuthula yangempela.
Isivumelwano saseVersailles sasingeyona inkontileka yokuthula.

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Ngakho-ke kwakuyisivumelwano sokuthula
sesikhashana kuphela. Ngakho-ke, iMbuso

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yaseJalimane iyaqhubeka nokuba khona kuze kube namuhla.

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Ungayixube neThird Reich. Lezi zimbili zivame ukudideka.
IThird Reich nombuso waseJalimane wango-1871 azihlangene nhlobo.

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Kunalokho, kungalandelelwa ngokuphelele kuleli mbuso, eliqhubekile
ukuba likhona ngaphandle kokuzonda kuze kube namuhla.

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Kla.TV: Ngokombono wakho, yiziphi amathuba
nemiphumela evela ngenxa yokuthi i-German

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Reich iyaqhubeka nokuba khona kuze kube namuhla?

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Ngabe kukhona amathuba akhethekile
abantu bomphakathi ekubumbeni ikusasa?

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MH: Kukhona amathuba amahle kakhulu. Futhi
ngokombono wezomthetho kuphela, lokhu akuyona

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imibono yami, kodwa kuwumqondo weqiniso lezomthetho.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokombono wezomthetho kuphela,
umthethosisekelo ka-1871 nawo uyasebenza.

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Ngoba lo Mbuso waseJalimane usasesimweni sempi nanamuhla,
ngokomqondo nje. Kuphela sesimweni sokumisa impi, okungukuthi.

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Futhi kuphela lo Mbuso waseJalimane
ongakwazi ukusayina futhi isivumelwano sokuthula.

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I-Republic yaseFederal yayingakabi khona ngaleso sikhathi.

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Ngokucacile, yasungulwa kuphela ngomhlaka 3
Januwari 1950, ngemva kokuthunyelwa

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kwencwadi yokugcina yokuvunywa kubantu baseBrithani.

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Ngakho-ke, umuntu angacabanga ukuthi yasungulwa ngo-1949.

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Ngicwaningile konke lokhu ngokucophelela
kakhulu futhi ngakwethula ngokunembile kakhulu.

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Ngithakasile kuphela emaqinisweni, akukho
okunye. Ngaleyo ndlela, ngingusosayensi ngempela.

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Ngakho-ke iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe
ayisungulwanga kuze kube ngomhlaka 3 Januwari 1950.

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Ngakho-ke akunakwenzeka ukusayina isivumelwano sokuthula, njengoba
iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane ingakaze ibe yisitha empini.

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Futhi isivumelwano sokuthula
kumele silandele impi ngokuphoqelekile.

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Futhi lokhu kudinga abamele abavumelekile be-Reich yaseJalimane.

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Kla.TV: Futhi laba bamele abavumelekile
babengekho nhlobo kulezi zingxoxo zokuthula.

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Kukhona into ebizwa ngokuthi isivumelwano se-2 plus
4. Ingabe konke bekungeyona into, njengoba besho?

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MH: NgesiJalimane, "Für den Katz" akusho "ngokwekati".

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Hhayi-ke, yindaba ehlukile leyo.

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Abamele isivumelwano sokuthula abazange babe khona.

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Lokho bekungaba uMbusi uWilliam I noma uWilliam II.

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Okokuqala kwalandelwa nguWilliam II.

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Ngakho lokho bekungaba ummeleli osemthethweni.

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Nokho, kamuva wahamba waya ekuxoshweni, ngakho
wayengekho lapha futhi wayengeke atholakale.

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Futhi iRiphabhulikhi yaseWeimar yamemezelwa nje ngokuphikisana
nomthethosisekelo osesebenzayo ka-1871. Lokhu akunakwenzeka

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ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe nomthethosisekelo.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi kwakungekho mmeli
osesimthethweni wombuso wamaJalimane wango-1871.

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Laba babeyizishoshovu zezepolitiki nabantu
ababengenalo igunya nhlobo lokusayina

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isivumelwano sokuthula seMbuso yaseJalimane ngo-1871.

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Baxoxa ngakho-ke, futhi manje sizothatha indlela
ehlukile emfushane, iSivumelwano Sezimbili Plus Ezine.

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Ngokucacile, kubizwa ngokuthi Isivumelwano Sezine Plus
Ezimbili. Yilokho ababambisene nabo abakubiza ngakho.

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Ngakho-ke, ama-Allies amane, iSoviet Union, iNgilandi, iFrance
ne-USA, kanye ne-FRG, iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane, ne-GDR.

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Bekumele ukuthi lezi zisungule iJalimane ehlangene
ngaphansi kwalesi sivumelwano. Lokho bekungaba yinto engavunywa.

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Ngale ndlela, iJalimane ehlangene akazange ifezeke.

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Ukuhlanganiswa kweJalimane kusho
iJalimane lonke njengoba kwakunjalo ngo-1871.

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Lokho kuwumanyano oluphelele.

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IGermany yahlukaniswa yaba izingxenye
ezintathu ngemva kweMpi Yezwe Yesibili.

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IRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseFederal yaseJalimane, okwathi kamuva
kwaba yiRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseDemokhrasi yaseJalimane,

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noma iJalimane Ephakathi ngokunembile. Futhi izifunda
ezaziphethwe yiJalimane YaseMpumalanga ngaphansi kwePoland.

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Futhi akukho okushintshile ngalokho kuze kube namuhla.

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Ngakho-ke iJalimane ehlangene yayingeke yakhiwe yi-FRG ngengxenye
eyodwa kulezi ezintathu, noma ngisho nangengxenye eziningi.

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Ngakho-ke bahlala bethi lesi Sivumelwano
se-Four Plus Two, kanye neSivumelwano se-Two Plus

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Four, sizoba isivumelwano sokuthula esingaphelele.

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Akukho okuthiwa isivumelwano sokuthula esingaphelele.
Kubhalwe ngokusobala ukuthi isivumelwano sokuthula.

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Ekugcineni, lesi sivumelwano asizange
siqinisekiswe ngazo zonke izinhlangothi ezazibophezele.

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Kuphela ngeRussia. Okuthakazelisa kakhulu.

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I-Russia kuphela eqinisekisile lesi sivumelwano.

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Futhi uGenscher, owayenguNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle
weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane ngaleso

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sikhathi, akazange ayiqinisekise ngokuhambisana nemithetho.

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Kufanele usayine lapha ngokugcwele,
okuyikho akwenzile esivumelwaneni esikhulu.

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Lapho kufika ukuqinisekiswa, wabeka kuphela izimpawu
zokuqala zika-G. Akukho igama lokuqala, akukho okunye.

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Futhi ngokungqondile, lokho kuphikisana nemithetho.

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Ngakho-ke lesi sivumelwano asizange
siqinisekiswe ngokusemthethweni. Yilokho okubalulekile.

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Kla.TV: Dokotela Haug, uma ngikuqondile kahle,
umthethosisekelo ka-1871 usasebenza namuhla.

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Kodwa-ke, iyini iMthetho Oyisisekelo? Inini ukubaluleka kwayo?

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MH: Umthetho Osekelayo usekelwe
eSivumelwaneni saseHague. Lona ngumthetho wamazwe

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ngamazwe. Ulawula isimo sempi nezimo zasemva kwempi.

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Kla.TV: HLKO kusho ukuthini? MH:
Isivumelwano saseHague mayelana nempi emhlabeni

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Ingabe umhlali kumele anikeze abahlali umthethosisekelo?

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Ukuze kugcinwe ukuhleleka, ukuziphatha
okuhle nokuthula. Yilokho okuchazwe ngakho.

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Yingakho ebizwa ngokuthi iMthetho Esisekelweni
weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane, hhayi iMthetho

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Esisekelweni weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane.

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Ngakho-ke yilona ilungelo lomhlali. Indaba emfushane.

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Ubaba wami wayemazi uCarlo Schmidt,
okuthiwa ungomunye wabasunguli boMthetho Osemqoka.

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Wayeyindoda endala ebandleni lobudlelwano lukayise.

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Futhi, esenomdlandla kancane ngenxa
yemigubho, waphosa amanye imfihlo.

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Wathi, uyazi, sasivunyelwe ukwengeza amachashazi
namakoma. Konke okunye kwakusele sekumiswe kusengaphambili.

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Ama-Allies ngokwemvelo bafuna ukubumba lo mthethosisekelo
ngokwezintshisekelo zabo. Lokho kuyabonakala, vele.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu kuyisitatimende esiqondile
sika Carlo Schmidt mayelana nobaba njengofakazi.

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Futhi kusekhona okushiwo eSigabeni 120 soMthetho
Osekelayo namuhla ukuthi uhulumeni kazwelonke ukhokha

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izindleko zokuhlala. Lokho kusenguqulweni yamanje yango-2025.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi uma kufanele ukhokhe
izindleko zokuhlala, nathi siyaxakeka.

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Asinayo imthethosisekelo.

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Ngoba, ngokwezindinganiso zomthetho wamazwe omhlaba,
izwe elifanele linezinhlalakahle zabantu, imingcele

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yezwe, iziphathimandla zikahulumeni nomthethosisekelo.

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Ngokucacile, iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe Ayigcwalisi Noma
Yiliphi Lalawa Mazinto Amathathu. Ayiyona isizwe, ngoba

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bonke izakhamuzi zayo bangabantu base-Reich yaseJalimane.

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Labo abangakwazi ukufakazela lokhu ngomthombo wabo wobuzwe.

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Ngakho-ke iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe uqobo
ayinayo umthetho ovumelekile wokuba yizwe.

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Futhi imingcele kazwelonke nayo ayikho. Ngoba imingcele
kazwelonke yangempela yasungulwa yiMbuso YaseJalimane ngo-1871.

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Ngakho-ke iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe yasungulwa njengesakhiwo
sokuphatha, indawo yezomnotho. Ngamandla ababephethe ukubusa.

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Futhi amandla abusa ngokungemthetho
akanalo ilungelo lokumisa izwe elisha kuyo.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokombono womthetho wamazwe
ngamazwe, iMbuso yaseJalimane yango-1871 ayishintshile.

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Kla.TV: Ngakho-ke, uma ngikuqonda kahle, iRiphabhulikhi
Yezwe LaseJalimane iyisakhiwo sokuphatha esisungulwe, masithi,

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ngamandla aphumelele ukuze kugcinwe ukuhleleka komphakathi.

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Lokho kungiholela embuzweni wami olandelayo.

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Ngoba abahloli beqiniso abathi njalo bavame ukuphikisa
ukuthi umbuso neziphathimandla zawo kumele babe izinkampani.

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Kuvame ukushiwo ukuthi iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe
YaseJalimane iyinkampani enomkhawulo noma okuthile

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okufana nalokho, inkampani. Ukuze ikwazi ukwenza izinto.

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Ukuze kungabi nokulahlekelwa kwenkululeko noma
sobu-mbuso obuhambisana nakho. Ukuze kungabi nokulahlekelwa.

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Kodwa uyibona kanjani? Ingabe manje lokhu, ingabe le nto esiyiyo
ngokuyisisekelo nje—masithi inkampani—futhi inekhadi lobu,

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ingabe lokho kuyisibonakaliso salokhu okwakhiwe ngokuphatha?

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Futhi ukuthi asiyona ngempela izwe langempela, nokuthi
iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane nayo ayiyona nhlobo

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izwe langempela, kodwa iyiyunithi kuphela yokuphatha?

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Ingabe lokho kuyisibonakaliso salokhu?

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MH: Lokho ngempela kuwuphawu walokho.

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Ngaleso sikhathi, ngo-1990, ngesikhathi sokubuyiselwa ndawonye
okwakubizwa kanjalo, okungazange kwenzeke, uNgqongqoshe

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Wezangaphandle waseMelika noNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle
waseJalimane, okungukuthi waseSoviet Union, basebenzisa ilungelo

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labo lokubeka ukubekwa eceleni kwama-Allied basusa uMthetho
Osekelayo ngaphandle kokuwufaka esikhundleni, basusa umkhakha

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wokusetshenziswa, Isigaba 23, lapho lokhu kwakuchazwe khona.

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Umthetho ngamunye udinga umkhawulo
ocacisiwe wokusetshenziswa kwawo.

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I-GDR yayinombuso. Futhi lokhu kwakusikiwe
ekhoneni elilodwa, sengathi kuyaphikisa iphasiphothi.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi kusukela ngalesi sikhathi, mhla ziyi-18
kuJulayi 1990, lapho lokhu kwenzeka khona, noma ngokunembile mhla

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ziyi-17 kuJulayi 1990, phakathi kobusuku mhla ziyi-18
kuJulayi 1990, iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane

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neRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseGDR zamemezelwa ukuthi azisebenzi.

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Akekho owayenesimiso sobukhosi manje.

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Ukusukela kumgcini wezimali weqembu ngalinye
kuqhubeke, akekho owayenamandla ozimele,

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amandla okukhuluma egameni le-FRG noma le-GDR.

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Futhi lokhu kwagcinwa kufihlwe kubantu baseJalimane.

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Futhi ngalokho, kwakungathi kusemoyeni nje.

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IRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane yayingasasetshenziswa
ngabasebenzi, njengoba Amandla Abambisene, ikakhulukazi i-United

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States, elinye lamandla aseNtshonalanga
abaphumelele empini, asuse amandla ayo obukhosi.

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Ngakho-ke yayingasasetshenziswa ngaleyo ndlela.

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Kanti-ke uGenscher noKohl babhalisa
iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane eDelaware njengenkampani.

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Futhi uGenscher wasusa i-BRD
eSivumelwaneni se-UN wabhala eJalimane.

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Futhi njengenkampani. Bakubhaliswe njengenkampani eDelaware.

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Ungakubheka ohlelweni lwamazwe ngamazwe lolwazi lwamafayela
ezinkampani. Libizwa ngokuthi UPIC. Ngakho-ke ungakubheka.

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Futhi kuthiwa lapho, uMongameli Steinmeier weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe,
inombolo yenkampani, ikheli lenkampani, ngakho zonke

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ziyizinkampani ngokubanzi, ngoba kwakudingeka abhalise uKohl
njengenkampani, ngoba isisekelo somthethosisekelo sasusiwe.

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Kla.TV: Dokotela Haug, sibuyela kuleli khadi lobu sikhombisi.

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Ngakho-ke uma le khadi lobu sikhombisi lifana
nje nekhadi lobu sikhombisi lenkampani

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yaseJalimane, iJalimane Company, yini imbangela yalokho?

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MH: Kukhona imithetho yamazwe ngamazwe ethi, ngokomgomo,
siyiziboshwa. Kuze kube manje, empeleni

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besiyiziboshwa, mhlawumbe sinenkululeko encane
kunaleyo esinayo manje ejele, kodwa sinalelo zinga.

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Futhi kunemithetho ebeka ukuthi laba bantu
kumele banikezwe idokhumenti yokuhamba.

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Ikhadi lobu sikhombi noma idokhumenti yokuhamba.

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Ikhadi lobuuntu libonisa ukuthi
singabasebenzi. Bengivame ukusebenza endaweni ethile

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ngezikhathi zeholide, isibonelo eDaimler.

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Bengihlala ngisebenza endaweni ethile ngezikhathi
zeholide, eDaimler noma kwenye indawo, futhi wawunikezwa ikhadi

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lobu sazi yiDaimler ngoba wawuqashwe lapho ngaleso sikhathi.

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Futhi lokhu kufana ngqo neshishini lokuhweba
elaziwa ngokuthi iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane,

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elikhishwa khona amakhadi obu-identithi kubantu.

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Futhi lokho kusobala ukuthi siyizisebenzi nje kuphela.

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Kla.TV: Futhi-ke engenazwe.

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MH: Futhi engenazwe.

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Kla.TV: Ngakho-ke, uma manje sisenayo inkampani eyodwa kuphela
eRiphabhulikhi Yezwe yaseJalimane futhi singenaso

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umthethosisekelo wangempela, kodwa sinomyalelo wokuphatha kuphela
wokugcina ukuthula nohlelo lomphakathi, ake ngikubeke kanje:

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yiziphi amathuba okubuyela kuReich langempela laseJalimane,
kumthethosisekelo wangempela osasebenza

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nanamuhla, anikezwa abantu baseJalimane noma izakhamuzi
zaseJalimane? Ingabe lokhu kuyabaluleka nhlobo?

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Ingabe kuwamaphepha amadala agcwele uthuli kuphela,
noma kunento ebalulekile okufanele isitshele namuhla?

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MH: Lokho kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Impela, kubalulekile kakhulu ukufinyelela esimweni
sokuthula, kanye nesimo sempi, ngokusebenzisa

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isivumelwano sokuthula. Lokho kuyisidingo sangaphambilini.

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Khona-ke, ngokombono womthetho wamazwe ngamazwe, sizophinde
sibe yizwe, izwe elamukelwe. Futhi sizophinde sibe namalungelo

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ezwe, esingenawo njengamanje eRiphabhulikhi Yezwe YaseJalimane.

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Ngempela asinalo izwe, sonke singamaJalimane.

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Kungase kuzwakale kungakholakali, kodwa kuyiqiniso.

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Khona-ke sizoba futhi namalungelo omthethosisekelo
kanye nobukhosi ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Futhi lo mthethosisekelo ungase ubonakale
umdala, osungulwe ngo-1871, futhi mhlawumbe

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usuphelelwe yisikhathi kancane, kodwa akunjalo.

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Kwaba nezimpumelelo ezinkulu.

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Futhi lapho, isibonelo, bakhuluma
nangesimo sentela eMbuso WaseJalimane.

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Kwakukhona intela yokuthengisa engu-4% kuphela.

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Bekungekho nhlobo intela yemali engenayo,
kwakukhona kuphela izinga elincane lentela

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yemali engenayo ngaphezu komkhawulo othile.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi, ake ngikunike isibonelo, uma kukhona
i-VAT engu-4% kuphela, ake sithathe amanani kaphethiloli.

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Uma sikhuluma ngamanani wanamuhla, ngine-diesel cishe
ngo-1.70, ungazibala wena: uma une-4% kuphela ye-VAT,

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amanani kaphethiloli ngempela ahlukile ngokuphelele futhi.

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Namuhla kukhona ingxenye yentela ecishe ibe ngama-80 cents,
ikakhulukazi kukaphethiloli, futhi mina nginezinga

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eliphansi kakhulu, cishe izikhathi ezinhlanu,
ngakho-ke ngisele cishe ngama-70 cents entengo kaphethiloli.

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Ngakho-ke ngicabanga ukuthi lokhu
kuyisibonelo esisodwa nje esibonisa ukuthi empeleni

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kunikeza izinzuzo ezinkulu kubantu baseJalimane.

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Futhi kunjalo, kukhuluma nangokwezezimali, okucacile.

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Ngakho-ke, ngaleso sikhathi, umhlomuli
wemhlalaphansi wayenesisilinganiso sama-euro angu-3 000

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ngenyanga, isibonelo, lapho kushintshwa kwaba ama-euro.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi umtholi wemhlomulo ojwayelekile akanankinga
ngalokhu; abanye ngempela bathola okuningi, kodwa bangabambalwa.

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Uma ungathola umhlomulo wokuthatha umhlalaphansi ofanele lapha
ngaphandle kokukhokha intela enkulu, lokho nakho kuyinkinga

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enkulu kithi, uma nje ubheka abaqoqa amabhodlela abaningi, njll.

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Ngakho-ke lokho kunenzuzo eziningi.

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Singakwazi ukukhuluma ngakho eminye imizuzu engamashumi
amathathu, mayelana nezinzuzo—empeleni, kunezinzuzo kuphela.

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Kodwa ngingathanda nje ukukhuluma
ngalolu hlelo olulodwa olubalulekile.

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Kla.TV: Manje-ke ngomunye umbuzo. Ngakho-ke uma iRiphabhulikhi
Yezwe YaseJalimane empeleni iyinkampani nje kuphela, ingabe

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ibhaliswe njengenkampani, inkampani enomkhawulo noma yini?

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MH: Ayibhaliswanga njenge nkampani enomkhawulo,
ibhaliswe nje njengenkampani. Kla.TV: Ibhaliswe njengenkampani.

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Futhi sinemithetho yasekhaya kuphela, isakhiwo esihlela nje
ukuphila kwethu ndawonye, kodwa asinayo imthethosisekelo.

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Kuthiwani ngesikweletu sikazwelonke esesabekayo esibhekene naso?

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Ingabe empeleni zibalulekile kithi-ke?

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Akuyona yini leyo ndaba yenkampani, hhayi
yabahlali, izakhamuzi zangempela zaseJalimane?

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Kuyini lokho? Ingabe kunento yokwenza nakho?

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MH: Lo mbuzo muhle kakhulu. Sibuyele emkhakheni wezezimali.

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Ishubhu kazwelonke noma izikweletu zale nkampani
yokuhweba azikho ebhizinisini loMbuso waseJalimane.

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Azikho nje. Ngokomqondo, asisekho.

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Abakhokhi bentela baseJalimane kumele bakhokhe
phakathi kuka-€10,000 no-€15,000 ngonyaka

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ngezintshisekelo kuphela, ngenxa yale nani yenzalo embi kakhulu.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kungaba
usizo olukhulu kakhulu kuwo wonke umuzi.

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Futhi lezi zikweletu, impela, azikho ezingqondweni
zoMbuso waseJalimane, ngoba uMbuso waseJalimane wawucebile

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futhi ungaphinde ube ncebo uma izinto zilawulwa kahle.

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Kla.TV: Kuhle. Manje sekunjalo. UMongameli wase-US
uDonald Trump nohulumeni wakhe banomuzwa omkhulu

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wokuzwela inkululeko nokuzimela kwabantu baseYurophu.

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Muva nje kakhulu eNgqungqutheleni Yokuphepha yaseMunich.

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UVance wayephinde wakhuluma ngamandla amakhulu
esekela inkululeko yezindaba kanye nazo zonke lezi

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zinto nokwethulwa kwedemokhrasi nokunye okunjalo.

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Ngokubona kwakho, yiziphi izinyathelo okufanele zithathwe
nguhulumeni kaTrump ukuze iJalimane nabantu baseJalimane bakwazi

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ukufinyelela ukuthula okufanayo kanye
nesivumelwano sokuthula, ukuze bakwazi ukubuyisa

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inkululeko yabo nobukhosi babo futhi babe yizwe futhi?

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Ngakho-ke yonke le milinganiselo, eniyilahle
ngokusobala phakathi nomlando, njengoba nisanda kuchaza.

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Kumele uTrump enzeni?

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MH: Ngakho-ke, ngokukhethekile, abameli
abavumelekile boMbuso waseJalimane ka-1871,

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abakhethwa ngabantu ekhethweni likademokhrasi.

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Ngokwami, angiyena umsekeli omkhulu wamaqembu.

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Ungaphinde uhlele ukhetho lwakho siqu,
ukuze ukwazi ukuvota umuntu ofuna ukuba khona.

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Futhi, vele, ama-Allies kumele
bahlale phansi etafuleni noma kunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke bonke abalingani abane. IFrance ayidlali indima enkulu.

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IRashiya neMelika ngokwemvelo zidlala indima ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Futhi lapha, kunjalo, kumele kwenzeke izingxoxo
eziqondile mayelana nokubuyela ngesinyathelo

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ngesinyathelo eMbuso yaseJalimane yedemokhrasi yango-1871.

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Lo mthethosisekelo ka-1871, owakhishwa ngo-Ephreli 1871,
wakhethwa ngokudemokhrasi phakathi

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kwezinhlangothi ezahlukene: iCentre Party, eyayiyisibonelo
sangaphambilini se-CDU, kanye ne-SPD eyayivele ikhona.

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Bese nabo bavunyelwa ukuvota eMpumalanga yeJalimane.

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Futhi yamukelwa ngobuningi
obukhulu, lo mthethosisekelo wamukelwa.

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Inkosi yayingummeleli nje kuphela emhlabeni
wangaphandle. Njengomphathiswa wezangaphandle.

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Wayengenalungelo elikhulu noma yini enjalo.

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Kucatshangwa ukuthi kuzovela umbuso
wobukhosi, bese umuntu ezihlukanisa nombusi.

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Kuyumbuso wobukhosi osekwe kumthethosisekelo.

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Kodwa lapho inkosi, njengoba ngishilo,
ingumlomo wokuxhumana nomhlaba wangaphandle.

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Futhi konke okusele kunqunywa ngokufanayo ngokwezombusazwe.

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E-Reichstag, njengoba sisenayo nanamuhla, ngendlela.

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Reichstag, akubizwa ngokuthi
iReichstag eBerlin ngaphandle kwesizathu.

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Abamele beqiniso beReichstag bazophinde babhale izichibiyelo
zomthetho, banqume iziqondiso, njll. ezinqubweni zedemokhrasi.

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Ngakho-ke akudingeki ukhathazeke ukuthi
uzobuyiselwa emuva ezikhathini zobumnyama noma yini enjalo.

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Ngisho nangaleso sikhathi,
kwakulawulwa ngendlela edemokhrasi kakhulu.

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Kla.TV: Yebo, ngakho-ke, uma ngiqonda kahle, uMongameli uDonald
Trump kuzomele aqinisekise, uma ekhathazekile ngenkululeko yabantu

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baseYurophu, ukuthi, isibonelo, laba bamele be-Reich yaseJalimane
bafike etafuleni futhi kuxoxisanwe ngesivumelwano sokuthula.

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Futhi bekungabe esekuphi okunye okwakumele akwenze?

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MH: Yebo, impela, isimo esibalulekile
eJalimane ukuthi ikakhulu sithathwe yi-USA.

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Kukhona izisekelo zempi ezingaphezu
kuka-30, izisekelo zempi ezinkulu lapha.

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Inani lamasosha maduzane lizodlula elamaSosha aseBrithani.

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Ngakho-ke awukwazi ukusho ukuthi asimatasa.

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Sithintekile ngempumelelo. Ungakubona lokhu
ezisekelweni eziningi zempi. Akukho okushintshile.

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Lokhu kubizwa ngokuthi iMilitary Act, esasebenza
nanamuhla. Futhi ifakiwe kuGazethi yoMthetho Kazwelonke.

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Ngicwaningile konke lokhu
ngokucophelela. Ngakho-ke ngifana nomole.

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Ngachitha izinsuku emathala ezincwadi
zomthetho futhi ngathola le mithombo.

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Kuphinde kwashiwo eGazini Lezomthetho Kazwelonke ka-1994
ukuthi konke kuzohlala njengoba kunjalo. Sizohlala sibanjwe.

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Ngakho-ke sihlangabezana nokubanjwa ngempela nangokomthetho.

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Futhi uTrump ngeke akhiphe amasosha akhe
lapha kuze kube sesivumelwaneni sokuthula.

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Kumele kulungiswe lokho. Akukho okuzokwenzeka kuze kube yilapho.

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Kunezizwi eziningi ezithi, yebo, bantu
baseMelika, sekuyisikhathi sokuba nibuyele ekhaya.

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Lokho ngeke kusebenze ngoba sisendaweni eboshiwe amasosha.

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Futhi akukho okuzokwenzeka kuze
sixoxisane ngalokhu esivumelwaneni sokuthula.

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Futhi-ke singabuyisa ubukhosi bethu obusebenzayo.

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Kla.TV: Ngakho-ke, uma ngiqonda kahle, uDonald Trump
nohulumeni wakhe kumele baqinisekise kuqala ukuthi

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abamele ngokomthetho baxoxisane ngesivumelwano sokuthula.

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Khona-ke bekuzofanele ukuthi ngandlela thile
akhansele isimo sokubusa. MH: Qeda. Kla.TV: Qeda.

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Futhi vele ume nje, ngokwempela, uvumele iJalimane ukuthi
isebenze futhi ngokuhambisana nomthethosisekelo wayo wango-1871

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kanye nezikhungo zombuso ezazisungulwe ngaleso sikhathi.

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Ingabe ngikuqondile kahle? MH: Uyiqondile kahle.

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Isimo sikaTrump esiyisisekelo. Sengimxhumane naye kanye.

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Wangiphendula ngokushesha. Ngamangala.

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Ngemva kwezinsuku ezimbalwa, wangiphendula. Kwakungu-imeyili.

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Kwakucacile phakathi kwemigqa ukuthi wayesho nje,
kulungile, nina bamaJalimane, lokhu kuwumsebenzi wenu futhi.

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Angifuni ukuphazamisa kakhulu noma ukuyala.

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Unokwanele okufanele akwenze eMelika, e-USA.

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Kwavela ukuthi empeleni kusezandleni
zamaJalimane ukubuyela lapho nokubuyisa ubukhosi babo.

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Kodwa-ke, lokhu kungenzeka kuphela
ezingxoxweni noPutin okwamanje. Futhi noTrump. Ngoba

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lezo zisekhona njengemithetho esemthethweni.

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Kla.TV: Kulungile. Ngakho-ke uTrump kumele
futhi avumelane noPutin ngombuzo waseJalimane.

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Kufanele futhi kube nengxoxo. Kufanele kube yindaba yokuxoxa.

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Futhi bobabili babo, mhlawumbe kanye neBrithani Elikhulu
neFrance, kuzodingeka banqume ndawonye ukuthi,

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kulungile, ningabuyela esimweni enasanisona ngaphansi
komthethosisekelo wakudala, osasekhona, futhi nisebenze futhi.

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Kodwa uma ngiqonda kahle, isinyathelo kumele sibe
sekuvela emandleni ababambe izwe, okwenza kube nokwenzeka.

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MH: Kokubili. Kuyinqubo yokuhlangana.

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Futhi, vele, kumele umuntu athathe isinyathelo sokuqala.

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Lesi sinyathelo esincane kakhulu kimi sokumxhumana naye nhlobo.

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Futhi uyazi kahle ukuthi kwenzekani.

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Ngoba ngesikhathi somthetho esidlule, wathi empeleni
wayefuna ukunika iJalimane isivumelwano sokuthula.

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Iqiniso lokuthi manje sekuphezu
kwakhe yinto eyayingenziwa kudala.

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Kodwa wayishilo ngamazwi, futhi ngiyazi
ukuthi abantu abaningi bayayijwayela nayo.

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Futhi abaningi mhlawumbe abazange benze lutho ngalokho
ngoba becabanga ukuthi sinento efana nesivumelwano sokuthula.

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Akakhulumi lokho ngaphandle kwesizathu.
Bayazi kahle ukuthi kwenzekani eJalimane.

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Futhi uPutin uthe kulesi simo ukuthi naye
angathanda ukuqeda isivumelwano sokuthula. NeJalimane.

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Akasazi nje ukuthi angasayina bani.
Ngaleso sikhathi, kwakuyisikhathi sikaMerkel.

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Futhi akayena ummeleli osesemthethweni we-Reich yaseJalimane.

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Yingakho ayisho ngokunembile
ngendlela ejikayo. Kufanele unake lokho.

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Kla.TV: Kodwa-ke, ubuholi base-US kanye
neFedereyishini yaseRussia bangasekela kanjani, ngenxa yami

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nje, ukuthi abamele abafanele nabo bafike etafuleni?

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MH: Njengoba ngishilo, lokhu
impela kuwumcimbi wabantu baseJalimane.

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Ngine abangane lapho abanexhumano elihle e-embasini yaseRussia.

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Bathi singakhuluma noPutin ngokulingana. Uvulekile.

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Uma sithumela abamele, noma ngabe
kungesikhashana kuphela, ngeke avale umnyango.

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Sikwenze kwacaca kubantu abase-embasini
nakithi uqobo, ngokuthi. Iminyango ivulekile.

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Kusimweni sethu ukuqinisekisa ukuthi samukelwa
njengabalingana, ukuthi nathi sithathe lezi

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zinyathelo, nokuthi sixhumane komunye nomunye.

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Lokho kuyavela kancane kancane eJalimane.

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Kla.TV: Iphuzu elithakazelisayo, Dokotela Haug.

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Kuhle. Futhi ungafunda ngazo eziningi
zalezi zinto, mhlawumbe encwadini yakho.

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MH: Konke kukhona lapho, yonke imibhalo esemthethweni
nomlando, ngicwaninge konke ngokucophelela nangokujulile.

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Angiphelele. Kuhlale kunezinto umuntu omunye akwazi ngcono.

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Kuhle, ngiyajabula ngalokho. Ngihlala ngenza izinguqulo ezintsha.

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Lena inguqulo yesibili, engiyandisile futhi
ngayicebisa yonke into ngemibono eyengeziwe.

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Kodwa konke okukuyo sekucwaningwe ngokucophelela.

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Kla.TV: Kuhle kakhulu. Dokotela Haug, ngiyabonga kakhulu
ngokusinika ukuqonda okuncane ngezimfihlo zeReich yaseJalimane.

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Sisagxumeke kuphela ungqimba wangaphandle,
kunjalo, kodwa bekuthakazelisa ukuzwa ngakho.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi manje umthwalo usebandleni lamaJalimane uqobo.

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Futhi amandla abusa izwe
bazimisele ukulalela nokusekela lezi zinto.

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MH: Noma kunjalo. Lona ulwazi lwami.

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Ngaphandle kwalokho, impendulo bekungeke ifike
ngokushesha kangaka noTrump, isibonelo, kanye nabamele iRussia.

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Kla.TV: Kuhle. MH: Ngiyabonga kakhulu. Kla.TV:
Yebo, akukho nto. MH: Ngithanda ukusho

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kuleli phuzu ukuthi ngikwazile ukudlulisa okuthile.

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Kusasesobuso. Kungenzeka ukuthi kuzoba nezingxoxo zokulandela
lapho sizongena khona kancane ngokujulile lapha nalapha.

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Kuncike. Lokho kungasiza. Ngiyabonga kakhulu.

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Kla.TV: Kuhle. Ngiyabonga
ngokuzimisela kwakho ukusiza. MH: Ngiyabonga.