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Ubusazi na ukuba umgaqo wokwahlulwa
kwamagunya awusetyenziswa nkqu naseSwitzerland,

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ilizwe elinomgaqo-woburhulumente wabantu ngabantu?

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Ingaba ubunkokeli obuphezulu belizwe buyazibamba
ekungqiniseni iinkcukacha ngokwabo nangokuzimeleyo?

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Kwaye buxhomekeke kuphela kumbutho omnye, i-WHO?

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Idemokhrasi ikhula ngomgaqo osisiseko wokwahlulwa kwamagunya.
La magunya kufuneka ahlolisise, alawule kwaye alungise

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omnye nomnye ngokusekelwe kulwazi olufunyenwe ngokuzimeleyo.

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UPhilipp Kruse wathetha kwisimpoziyam ye-WHO
eWinterthur ngomhla woku-1 kuMatshi 2025 malunga

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nendlela le democrasi ingasayonyani ngayo namhlanje.

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ISwitzerland sele ilawulwa ngokuphumeleleyo ikude yi-WHO.

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Uhlengahlengiso olucetywayo kwiMigaqo
yezeMpilo yaMazwe ngaMazwe lujolise ekomelezeni

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ngakumbi igunya elilodwa le-WHO kulo mmandla.

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Umzekelo, isakhono soMlawuli-Jikelele sokubhengeza
ingxakeko yezempilo akufuneki sinqandwe, kodwa ke sandiswe.

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Kwixesha elizayo, kufuneka akwazi ukwenza oku ngokuzimeleyo.

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Wayenokude agweme isigqibo sephaneli yakhe yeengcali
aze aphinde agweme uluvo lwelizwe elichaphazelekayo.

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Iilizwe zinexesha eliphelelayo nge-19 kaJulayi
2025 lokufaka iziphikiso kwimithetho yezempilo.

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Ukuba oku akwenzeki, isingeniso siza
kubakho ngomhla we-19 kuSeptemba kulo nyaka.

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Ngoku mamela iintetho zikaKruse, kunye
nentshayelelo emfutshane ngu-Urs Hans, umseki

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we-Public Eye on Science nomququzeleli walo msitho.

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Kwaye ngoku ndonwabile ukwazisa uPhilipp Kruse.

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Enyanisweni, ufana 'nomntu osoloko
ekwimibhiyozo', uhlala ekho kwiziganeko ezimnandi.

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Kwaye ngoku sele esaziwa kulo lonke
elaseYurophu; kungekudala umntu angathi ungugqirha kulo mba.

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Kodwa idabi lakhe likwangokuvusa ulwazi
malunga ne-WHO, isivumelwano sobhubhane

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kunye nezikhokelo zempilo zamazwe ngamazwe.

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Kusafuneka sisebenze nzima ukuze siqinisekise iBhunga
leFederal ukuba lingagqiba ngokuzikhetha ukungabandakanyeki

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. Kulungile, Philipp, yeyakho ithuba lokuthetha.

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Enkosi kakhulu, Urs othandekayo,
ngokucwangcisa omnye umsitho onje.

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Urs othandekayo, lo ngumsitho wakho wesihlanu, umsitho
wakho omkhulu wesihlanu, endikwazileyo ukuwuzimasa ukusukela

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eWinterthur, apho konke kwaqala khona ekuqaleni kuka-2022.

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Enkosi kakhulu, wenze umzamo omkhulu kakhulu ngenxa yethu sonke.

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Ndingathanda kwakhona ukunibulela kakhulu
ngokwenza uhambo lokuya kufika apha ukuze

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nizimase le simpoziyam ye-coronavirus eSwitzerland.

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Kwaye ndilangazelela kakhulu ukuthetha nani
abaninzi kangangoko kunokwenzeka emva koko.

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Kwaye ke ngoku, singathanda ukuvakalisa umbulelo wethu onothando
kwisithethi esanduleleyo, uJürg Vollenweider, umntu

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endisebenza naye endimhloniphileyo nomhlobo wam, ngokuzikhathaza
kwakhe ukugxininisa imiba entsonkothileyo yenkqubo.

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Ezi zaphulo-mthetho zomgaqo-nkqubo wamazwe ngamazwe zodwa
beziya kwanela njengesizathu sokwala ngokupheleleyo le mithetho

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yezempilo – iBhunga leFederal beliya kunyanzeleka ukuba ilale.

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Ewe, kwaye ngoku ndiza kujikela
kwimiba engundoqo yale mithetho yenkqubo.

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Imeyo yokuqala ichazwe: Sinoxesha elibekiweyo
lomhla we-19 kaJulayi ngokumalunga nemimiselo

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yezempilo. Amazwe anelo xesha lokufaka inkcaso.

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Ngoko ke iBhunga lethu leFederal kufuneka nalo belibhengeze
kwi-WHO ngelo xesha ukuba alizokwamkela la migaqo, olu lungiso.

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Nalu isishwankathelo esidibiswe nguAndrea Staubli, ongenguye nje
ilungu leFree Switzerland Action Alliance yethu, kodwa

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okwangoku edlala indima ebalulekileyo kulungelelwaniso lwayo –
engummeli nowayesakuba ngumgwebi – esidibiswe apha ngokulula.

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Kubalulekile ukukukhumbula oku
njengoko singena kwiinyanga eziseleyo apha.

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Kwaba nje izolo, kwanamhlanje kwanangololo, isigaba sokuthatha
inxaxheba okunokwenzeka kwazo zonke iintlangano, kuquka abo

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banomdla kunye nathi, uluntu jikelele,
siphelile. Le ibiyinkqubo yokubonisana, ithuba

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lokungenisa izimvo malunga nale mithetho yezempilo.

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Kwaye ndiyakumema ukuba ujonge ingxelo ye-Free
Switzerland Action Alliance kwiphepha lasekhaya.

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Kwaye kukho nezinye iingxelo ezingenela iinkcukacha
eziphangaleleyo kakhulu kunokuba kunokwenzeka apha. Apha,

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sinokuchaphazela kuphela ezona ngongoma zibalulekileyo.

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Silindele ingxoxo yepalamente kwimiba
engundoqo ukuba ibe sePalamente yaseSwitzerland kweli

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hlobo. Kwaye sifuna ukuphembelela le ngxoxo.

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Ukuba ukwaliwa akwenziwa ngomhla we-19
kaJulayi, le mithetho yezempilo iza kuqala

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ukusebenza ngomhla we-19 kaSeptemba kulo nyaka.

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Indawo yokuqalela, kodwa kananjalo nangokwento
equlethweyo: Kubaluleke kakhulu ukukhumbula ukuba:

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Yintoni efakwe kule mithetho yezempilo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku,
kwaye iphathwe njani, ukuze sikwazi ukwahlula olo hlengahlengiso

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lwexesha ngamaxesha oluncinane kakhulu, olunyani lwalo kufuneka
luhlolwe ngesipili sokukhulisa kunye namava okutolika amagqwetha?

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Kwaye imigaqo-nkqubo yezempilo yangaphambili,
ebisebenza ngolu hlobo ukusukela ngo-2007, ibibeka

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phambili into ebaluleke kakhulu kwiSihloko 3, isiqendu 1:

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La migaqo-sikhokelo iza kunyanzeliswa ngentlonipho epheleleyo
yesidima somntu, amalungelo oluntu kunye nenkululeko esisiseko!

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Ewe, bafazi namadoda, oko kungathetha ukuba sonke singaya ekhaya
sikhululekile singenaxhala, kuba yile nto

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ebeyitshilo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku kwaye yile nto
ekufuneka iqhubeke iyitsho kwixesha elizayo.

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Kutheni, kutheni sisaxhalabile? Kaloku, kungenxa yokuba
sijonga isicelo esiphathekayo kwiminyaka yakutshanje.

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Imigaqo yezempilo yayisetyenziswa
njani – nangona bekukho la migaqo?

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Kwaye kufuneka ndiyiphonononge ngokufutshane,
njengommeli owakhe waziphathela zonke ezi nkqubo.

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Kwakukho lo mfuneko wemaskini kubantwana,
kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke, kwakungekho zizibheno.

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Ndandinomntwana onamandla ancitshisiweyo
okufunxa i-oksijini. Ibisoloko ikuma-80 ekhulwini

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kuphela . Akazange afumane nentswela-mfuneko.

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Kwaye loo oogqirha babesikhupha izatifikethi zokukhululwa
kwiimeko ezinengqiqo ngolo hlobo, baye bahlukunyezwa.

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Baye babandakanyeka kwiinkqubo zolwaphulo-mthetho.

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Kwaye njengoko nonke nisazi, umzekelo uGqirha Andreas Heisler
– ngethamsanqa usandul' ukukhululwa, kwaye ngokufanelekileyo,

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kodwa emva kwenkqubo ethe yathatha ixesha elide kakhulu.

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Kwaye usengumxhasi wam nanamhlanje, onelayisensi yakhe
yokusebenza yarhoxiswa ekupheleni kuka-Okthobha – yarhoxiswa

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kunyaka ophelileyo – ngenxa enye yokuba
wakhupha isatifikethi sokukhululwa ekunxibeni

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imaski kwintombazana eneminyaka eli-14 ubudala.

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Ngoko ke, kwakungekho nto yayinokwenzeka apha. Emva koko
kwalandela amanyathelo amagqabaza amapolisa – sonke

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siyayazi loo nto, into enye yezona zinto zingakholelekiyo.

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Kuye kwabakho iimvavanyo ezininzi eziphindaphindiweyo
ezikolweni, ezikolweni zamabanga aphantsi. Apha,

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eMaihof, oku kuza kungena kwimbali embi yaseSwitzerland.

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Ngomhla wama-29 kuJanuwari 2021 – kanye xa imfuneko yokunxiba
iimaski yayinyanzeliswa kuyo yonke indawo – abantwana

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abangama-374 bavavanywa ngenkani okanye ngenkani
esikolweni iMaihof eLucerne kuba umntwana omnye wayefunyaniswe

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ene-intsholongwane ngexesha lovavanyo oluqhelekileyo.

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Kwaye ke, yintoni: bayenze njani loo nto?

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NgoLwesihlanu ekuseni, kuthunyelwe i-imeyile kumakhaya
abazali ithi, "Ewe, siza kuqhuba olu vavanyo emva kwemini."

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Kufuneka kwenziwe ngenxa yezi
zizathu. Nceda usazise ukuba akuvumelani.

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Ewe, uninzi lwabazali abazange
bayibone i-imeyile. Babese msebenzini.

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Kwaye into eyenzekayo ngoko
yeyokuba – ndafowunelwa kamva ngutitshala.

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Undifonele elila kuba kwakufuneka alinde
neklasi yakhe yesikolo phambi kwejimu – okanye

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kwakufuneka alinde phambi kwegumbi loviwo.

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Kwaye sele ivakala egumbini ingxolo yokulila
yabantwana, kuba babesandul' ukulingwa ngenkani. Ngenkani!

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Kwaye naye ngokwakhe kwafuneka ancede
ekubambeni abantwana ababengafuni kuvavanywa.

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Ingaba isidima sabantu esingenamida siyagcinwa apha?

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Kaloku, siyazi sonke ke eyenzeka
kubanini-resityu yaseWalliserkanne.

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Babanjwe ngomkhankaso omkhulu
wamapolisa nokusetyenziswa kwamandla okukhulu.

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Kwaye – uxolo, ungayibona apha – endaweni yokutyelela
umxhasi wam kwivenkile yakhe yokutyela, kwafuneka ndimtyelele

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entolongweni. Loo nto yayingomhla wama-31 ku-Okthobha 2021.

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Okanye eDavid Gym, apho unokubona indawo yokutshintshela.

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Apha sibona omnye wamapolisa amahlanu akwindawo
yokutshintshela, owayekwakhupha abantu kwi-sauna.

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Ndingathanda nje ukubeka oku kumxholo wesidima esingenamida
sabantu, ekuthiwa sele siyabekwa kwimigaqo-nkqubo yezempilo.

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Kwaye inyaniso, njengoko sisazi, ibingoyikisi kangako kangangokuba
bekunokuvunyelwa ukuba kusetyenziswe ezi ndlela zomkhosi.

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Yiyo leyo imvelaphi. Kwaye kufuneka sikwazi nokuba
umgaqo osisiseko sobuzwe-mbuso umiselwe kule migaqo.

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Ngoko ke iSihloko 3, isicatshulwa 4 soMgaqo-siseko wezeMpilo
waMazwe ngaMazwe eneneni siyasiqinisekisa esi siqinisekiso.

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Amazwe azimele kwaye anokuzisebenzisa izimiso zawo.

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Kodwa ke, iBhunga lethu leFederal lalisebenzisa kangakanani
ulawulo lwalo olupheleleyo xa kuziwa,

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umzekelo, ekupheliseni imeko kaxakeka, iimeko
ezingaqhelekanga, oko kukuthi, imeko yongxamiseko?

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Akubuyelwanga kwimeko eqhelekileyo,
kodwa kubuyelwe kwimeko ekhethekileyo.

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Kwaye intatheli yomabonakude waseSwitzerland yabuza
ngokufanelekileyo: "Kutheni singabuyeli esiqhelweni?"

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Kwaye impendulo evela kuMongameli weManyano
yaseSwitzerland, uSimonetta Sommaruga ngelo

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xesha, ibe yile: "Asinakuzigqibelela nje lonto."

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Enye yezihloko yi-WHO, echaza imeko yongxamiseko enjalo.

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Ngoko ke, makucace: asilawuli. Yi-WHO eyenza isigqibo.

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Apha, nathi, asilawuli: uMongameli olandelayo
weRiphabliki, uIgnazio Cassis, esecandeni, ephendula

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umbuzo kaSandro Protz, othe wabuza ngokufanelekileyo:

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Kutheni sinokufunda kumaphephandaba ukuba abantu abaninzi
ngakumbi ababhengezwa ziisibhedlele njengabantu abasweleke

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nge-coronavirus, kodwa eneneni bangeniswa
esibhedlele ngenxa yengozi yemoto, ingozi yendlela

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okanye ezinye iingozi, kwaye yiyo loo nto besweleka?

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Kwaye apha kuthiwa – uMongameli weFederal
uthi: "Ewe, kunjalo. I-WHO iyenze ngolo hlobo."

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Ngesifo esosulelayo esihamba ihlabathi, onke
amazwe kufuneka enze olu vavanyo ngokwemigaqo efanayo.

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Kwaye oko kusikhumbuza sonke ngoShakespeare, othi:
"Nangona oku kungumbhombolo, kodwa kukho indlela kuko."

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Yile indlela esetyenziswayo apha.
Bububhanxa obupheleleyo. Yinkunkuma enkulu.

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Nangona kungobuyatha, kukho indlela kuko. Ngoko
ke, ubuncinci kukho indlela kuko. Ngoko ke,

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logama nje kukho indlela kuko, yonke into iyamkeleka.

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Kwaye neenkundla azingcono. Apha, ngokufutshane – ndiyazi ukuba
sendikhe ndayithetha le nto... Kufuneka

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ndizikhumbuze ngayo lonke ixesha – kodwa iinkundla –
njengerekhodi elaphukileyo – ziye zaphikisa mna nabaxhasi bam:

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Mnu Kruse, uyazi ukuba logama nje ubhubhane
usekhona, abasemagunyeni kufuneka basebenzise ingqiqo

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engakumbi, kwaye kufuneka bavunyelwe ukuba benjenjalo.

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Kwaye logama nje ezi gunya zithobela iingcebiso
ze-WHO, thina njengeenkundla asinakuyitshitshisa loo nto.

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Ngoko ke, oko kuthetha ukuba ngexesha lalo bhubhane lide kakhulu,
obeliphantse lube ngubhubhane ongunaphakade – ukusukela

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ngomhla wama-31 kuJanuwari 2020 ukuya kowesi-5 kuMeyi
2023 – besinento nje yokuzikhethela okungenasizathu apha.

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Kwaye ngale nzonga ingekho siseko, naluphi na uhlolo
olutsha okanye ulungiso luyekelelwe – ngenxa yale zizathu.

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Ewe, ayikaze iqinisekiswe
ngokuzimeleyo, nkqu nePalamente ayikaze iyenze oko.

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E-Switzerland, sinenkqubo apho iPalamente yaseSwitzerland ingoyena
magunya uphezulu kuluntu – kunye nabemi abazimeleyo, ewe.

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Kwaye abakenzanga msebenzi wokubeka iliso
okanye wokongamela kude kube namhlanje.

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Njengekomiti yamagqwetha, endayiseka kunye nabambalwa endisebenza
nabo, siye sabongoza rhoqo abameli

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bezizwe-mali ukusukela ngoDisemba 2021 ukuba
bajongane kanye nalo mba baze baphelise lo bhubhane.

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Amanqanaba kufuneka apheliswe
kwaye kufuneka kwenziwe uphononongo.

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Kwaye impendulo esayifumanayo yaba yile, "Ewe,
singakwazi ukwenza oko kuphela xa ubhubhane uphelile."

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Ngoko ke, abantu bathemba ngokungaboni amandla onke nolwazi
lonke lwe-WHO. Oko, njengoko benditshilo, yindawo yokuqalisa.

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Kwaye yonke le meko iyatshintshatshintsha ngenxa yento esele
ikhankanyiwe ligqala lam elihloniphekileyo uJürg

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Vollenweider, yokuba eSwitzerland iinkundla namagunya
zinyanzelekile ukuba zilawulwe ngumthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Kwaye ukuba ukholelwa ukuba iingcebiso ze-WHO zimele umgangatho
wona wona wona wokusebenza okugqwesileyo, oko kukuthi, ngokwenene

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yeyona nto ingcono kakhulu ekufuneka yenziwe kwaye ekufuneka
yenziwe kwiimeko ezinje, ngoko ke kufuneka zisetyenziswe.

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Yiloo nto imeko okwangoku. Kwaye masingalibali: kukho iNqaku
42 eliphantse libe yityhefu kumgaqo-siseko okhoyo ngoku. Ithi:

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Amalungiselelo ezempilo athathwe ngokusekelwe kula mithetho
yezempilo kufuneka aqaliswe aze agqitywe

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ngaphandle kokulibaziseka, kwaye
asetyenziswe ngokucacileyo nangaphandle kwocalucalulo.

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Ngoko ke, loo nto sele ikhona apho kwaye
izinzisiwe, kwaye yenziwe ngolo hlobo. Ewe,

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kulungile, ndiyakucela, zenzele esakho isigqibo.

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Singathembela kangakanani na kanye kanye kolu
lwimi lweMigaqo yezeMpilo yeHlabathi kwixesha elizayo?

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Ngoko ke sikwanazo, kwaye okokugqibela kodwa kungaphantsi,
namatyala akhoyo ngoku. Ndikhankanye elinye, uGqr. Dhani.

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Unazo zontathu zizonke – ukhuphe iisatifikethi kwiimeko ezintathu
kuphela, enye yazo endiyikhankanyileyo, isatifikethi semaski.

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Kwizatifikethi ezimbini ezingaphambili, emva
kovavanyo olucokisekileyo, iimvavanyo zegazi

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njalo njalo, neeyure ezininzi zokuhlolwa, wathi:

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Kwimeko yakho ethile, ukugonywa kungakubi
ngenxa yezizathu zonyango. Andikugonyisi.

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Oku kukhokelele kwi-Ofisi yezeMpilo yaseZurich Cantonal
ukuba imtyholo ngenjongo yolwaphulo-mthetho – imtyholo ngenjongo

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yolwaphulo-mthetho – kwaye ithi usongela impilo yoluntu.

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Le yimeko yanamhlanje, ayisiyondalo lixesha
elimnyama elidlulileyo apho sasingazi ngcono.

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Yiyo le meko injalo. Kwaye
kutheni ndiphinda-phinda ngayo kangaka?

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Kukubonisa nje ukuba nokuba yinkcazo encinci nje, okanye nokuba
kukomelezwa, oko kwenza oku kudlulileyo kubuye kubekho kwixesha

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elizayo kwaye kuza kwenza imeko yonke iba mandundu ngakumbi.

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Kwaye yindlela leyo ekufuneka yonke le nto ijongwe
ngayo. Nathi eJamani asikayamkeli le nto, nangona

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yonke into kudala icacile ngenxa yeenkqubo ze-RKI.

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Kwaye ndingathanda ukukhomba into ekufanele ngokwenene
ukuba yonke ilungu lepalamente yaseSwitzerland liyicingisise.

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Naphambi kokuba uTrump afike, i-subcommittee yeNdlu yabaMeli, oko
kukuthi iNdlu yabaMeli yase-US, yapapasha ingxelo yayo

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yokugqibela ngomhla we-4 kuDisemba 2024 emva kweminyaka emalunga
nemibini yophando – ngamanye amazwi, bazalisekisa

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imisebenzi yabo yophando – olu phando lwabo lonke
lulolwabantu kwaye lunokufumaneka kwi-intanethi.

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Kwaye apho, kwiphepha lesithathu, kuchaziwe ngokucacileyo ukuba
oku kuvalwa kwezikolo nazo zonke iindlela ezithathiweyo

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bezikhuthazwe yipolitiki kuphela kwaye bezingenaso
nasiphi na isizathu sezonyango okanye sesayensi, nokuba

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ezi ndlela bezimbi nangakumbi kunentsholongwane ngokwayo.

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Ndincoma ukuba niyifunde le nto, kodwa ngaphezu kwako
konke, ndincoma ukuba onke amalungu ePalamente ayifunde.

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Kodwa iBhunga leFederal lithini
ngesi silungiso sammiselo ezempilo?

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Uthi ezi ziinguqulelo zobuchwepheshe ezincinci nje kuphela,
akukho ncedo-mali longezelelweyo efunekayo,

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akukho tshintsho kumthetho, kwaye
ngokuqinisekileyo akukho nqunyelo kubuzwe baseSwitzerland.

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Yiyo loo nto kungekho mfuneko yokuba abantu
baseSwitzerland babe nelizwi, kwaye okona

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kulungileyo, nokuba iPalamente ingabi nalo ilizwi.

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Yeyiphi imbono echasayo? Kwaye nanku kwakhona:

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Nceda jonga ikhasi lasekhaya le-"Aktionsbündnis Freie Schweiz"
(Umanyano lwezenzo lweSwitzerland ekhululekileyo) ukuze ubone

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iingxelo zethu ezineenkcukacha ezipheleleyo kunye neengcebiso
esizifakileyo apho, ingakumbi ezo ezivela kwi-"Aktionsbündnis

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Freie Schweiz" ngokwayo, apho singena khona kwiinkcukacha.

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Ngoko ke, ukushwankathela: Singa
kwaye kufuneka sigqibe kwelokuba:

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La manyathelo ohlengahlengiso lwe-IGC aqinisa
kwaye omeleze imeko yezomthetho ekhoyo, nto leyo

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eyonakalisa uluntu kwaye iluncedo kwishishini lamachiza.

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Kwaye yonke le nto inezimpawu zolawulo olupheleleyo.
Kulula kanjalo. Kwaye siye sayibonisa le nto ngokweenkcukacha.

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Enyanisweni yinkqubo yokuphelisa zonke izinga
lomgangatho kusetyenziswa ingqiqo yomkhosi.

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Yonke le nto iphawulwa yingqiqo
yezomkhosi. Kukho imeko enkulu yongxamiseko.

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Yonke into ivumelekile, kuquka neemvume zongxamiseko
ngaphandle kwayo nayiphi na iimvavanyo zokhuseleko.

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Akukho ndlela zokulungisa. Ngoko ke, xa isimo esingxamisekileyo
esinjalo sibhengezisiwe, akukho mfuneko yesixhobo sokulungisa.

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Konke oku, njengoko benditshilo,
kuphikisana nezinto eziluncedo kubantu.

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Kwaye leyo yinkqubo yokuzikhethela kwerhulumente eyonke,
engahambelaniyo kwaphela nendlela esiyiqondayo imo karhulumente

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– kwanemithetho esele ikhona yezempilo sele iyinkathazo.

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Kwaye ngokusekelwe koku, sibona ezona
ngongoma zibalulekileyo apha. Zine ke ezo

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kwisihlanu. Ndiza kufika kweyesihlanu kungekudala.

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Ingongoma yokuqala, ekufuneka uyazi
kuphela xa ujonga kwixesha elidlulileyo, yile:

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Ewe, igunya nokukwazi koMlawuli-Jikelele lokubhengeza ingxakeko
yezempilo akuthintelwanga okanye,

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ngokwamava angaphambili, akaphantsi kwenkqubo
yokulungisa, kodwa kokunye kwaphela, liyandiswa.

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Unako ukwenza oku ngokwakhe. Unako nokuphikisa isigqibo seqela
lakhe leengcali, aze aphikise noluvo lwelizwe elichaphazelekayo.

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Leyo yingongoma yokuqala. Oku kukhokelela
okanye kubangela uloyiko lokuba siza kuphinda sibe

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neentlanganisela zezifo ezingalawulekiyo nezinde.

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Ke ingqaki yesibini: uMlawuli-Jikelele unokuchaza ukuba zeziphi
iimveliso i-WHO ezithatha njengeziyimfuneko ukulwa ubhubhane.

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Ngoku khawufan' ucinge ngelizwe elithi,
"Siza kwenza izinto ngokwahlukileyo."

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Emva koko ulwazi lufika kwangoko: Yima
kancinci, zithi, umzekelo, iSwitzerland sisongelo

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kwihlabathi kuba ayizisebenzisi ezi mveliso.

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Ngokulula, ngamandla enyaniso kanye nengqiqo yale migaqo yezona
ndlela zokusebenza zibalaseleyo esele isebenza apha, ngaphandle

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kwayo nayiphi na igunya, naliphi na igunya lokwenene lomkhosi,
elinxulunyaniswa nayo. Kodwa lindela ingongoma yokugqibela.

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Emva koko kukho indlela yokuxhasa ngemali. Leyo yingxaki enkulu.

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Kodwa xa iyonke, kufuneka kuthiwe ukuba yimbono ye-WHO kunye
namazwe angamalungu aqhuba phambili – yokuba amazwe

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ahlwempuzekileyo, amazwe aseMzantsi, uMzantsi wehlabathi,
ingakumbi i-Afrika – kufuneka axhaswe ngemali, kufuneka

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axhaswe ngobuchule nangamaziko emveliso ukuze nawo
akwazi ukuxhamla kwizitofu zokugonya nakwiikhemikhali zazo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kwixesha elizayo asizukuhlawulela
kuphela isixa esigqithisileyo seentlawulo zezijovo

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esizithengileyo, kodwa sikwazihlawulela nezinye iindawo.

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Kanti ke, izolo okanye eziintsuku ezimbini ezidlulileyo,
kuphumile ingxelo ethi iBhunga leFederal eSwitzerland lisala

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ukutyhila, nangona sekukho uphando lwepalamente,
iinkcukacha ezichanekileyo zemali malunga

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nokuba lichithe malini kwizinto ezisekelwe kwi-mRNA.

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Loo nto ayamkelekanga kwaphela. Onke
amalungu ePalamente kufuneka athathe amanyathelo.

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IBhunga leFederal kufuneka lityhile la manani.

22:33.415 --> 22:38.452
Sihlawule malini ngesi sixhobo singento, esingenaxabiso?

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Nokuba kunjani, ayisosixhobo esinazo naziphi na iinzuzo
zonyango ezaziwayo; kanye le nto ingeyiyo, njengoko siza kuva.

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Ewe, kwaye ke kukho uluhlu olupheleleyo lwezibophelelo
ezongezelelweyo – phantsi kwentloko yezakhono ezingundoqo,

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izibophelelo ezingundoqo okanye izibophelelo
ezisisiseko – ezisebenza kungekuphela kwinqanaba likarhulumente

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womdibaniso, kodwa nakwinqanaba leecantons nelamasipala.

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Kwaye apho iBhunga leFederal lithi nje, ewe, singakwazi
ukulungisa loo nto ngokulula ngezibonelelo esele sinazo.

23:14.069 --> 23:22.129
Ngoko ke, yeyiphi eyona ndawo iyingozi kakhulu? UJürg Vollenweider
sele eyichazile waza wayicacisa kakuhle kakhulu le nto.

23:22.129 --> 23:26.520
Oku kumalunga nomba wobuzwe phezu kolwazi nokutolikwa.

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Ifihliwe ekupheleni kanye komgca wexesha – xa ndisithi
ekupheleni, ndithetha ngokunjalo nangoxwebhu apha, kwi-Appendix

23:34.931 --> 23:43.485
1, i-Annex 1, kwicandelo le-Core Capacities, ingabonakali,
awungeke uyibone, kumagama athi unxibelelwano lwemingcipheko,

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kuquka ukujongana nolwazi olungeyonyani kunye nokulahla ulwazi.

23:48.458 --> 23:58.850
UJürg Vollenweider sele ecacisile kakuhle ukuba akufuneki
sithembele kule ndlela yokubeka ingxaki ingaphaya kwayo

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nangayiphi na indlela, kodwa ke, kufuneka sibuyele
kwimbali yokuba le ndlela yokubeka yavela njani xa siyitolika.

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Kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke, kufuneka
sivume ukuba le nto ibinjalo ixesha elide.

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Lo lawulo, olu lawulo olupheleleyo kulwazi, kudala
lusetyenziswa yi-WHO, kwaye sinemizekelo engabalekiyo yako.

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Siqala ngayo yonke inkcazelo malunga nobungozi
besifo esitshatyalalisayo kunye noko kufuneka sikwenze.

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Kodwa apha, ndingathanda ukukhomba ngokufutshane ukuba
kwasekuqaleni ngoFebruwari 2020, i-WHO yahlanganisa

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zonke iinkampani ezinkulu zemidiya yoluntu nezobuchwepheshe.

24:48.765 --> 24:58.029
Wayeseziko le-Facebook, wabiza wonke umntu waza wathi, 'Kulungile,
nantsi imithetho. Siza kuqulunqa isivumelwano ngoku.'

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Uyavuma ukuqinisekisa ukuba akukho lwazi
lungaphandle kwelo sinikwe lona olufumanekayo kumaqonga akho.

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Kwaye ezi ntlanganiso ke zaphindwa inyanga nenyanga,
kwi-intanethi, zingasenziwa ngokubonana. Sithetha ngantoni?

25:14.864 --> 25:21.445
Kukho iGoogle, iFacebook, iAmazon, iYouTube, iInstagram, uluhlu
olupheleleyo lwamaqonga onxibelelwano

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olungangama-50 – ngamanye amazwi, ngokwenene
luhlonze lonke ilizwe le-intanethi le-social media.

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Oku kucacisiwe kakuhle zizazinzulu. Nabani
na onomdla kwimvelaphi makangqibelane nam.

25:34.615 --> 25:37.475
Ewe, kwaye kutheni oko kuyoyikisa kangaka?

25:37.475 --> 25:45.001
Okokuqala nokuphambili, ewe, siyazi ukuba inkululeko yokuthetha,
inkululeko yolwazi kunye nenkululeko yezemfundo yimigaqo

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esisiseko esenza ukuba thina njengabemi sikwazi ukusebenza
ngaphakathi kwidemokhrasi, kodwa kwakhona yenza ukuba ezopolitiko

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kunye nenkqubo yokwenza izigqibo zezopolitiko zisebenze.

25:56.604 --> 26:01.463
Kwaye ukuze sikwazi ukwenza
isigqibo esinolwazi malunga nempilo yethu.

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Kubi ngokwaneleyo kwaye sele kuchazwe kakuhle kakhulu.

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Nangona kunjalo, ikwalahlekisa kakhulu kakhulu okanye
inxulumene ngokulinganiselweyo, okanye endaweni yoko

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inxulumene, kwinkqubo yokwenza izigqibo yedemokhrasi.

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Siyibonile le vothi. Sivunyelwe ukuvota kathathu eSwitzerland.

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Sivunyelwe ukuba sizivotele ngokwethu uMthetho we-COVID-19.
Kwaye besisoloko sifumana isiphumo esiphantse sifane.

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I-40% ayizange iyamkele lo mthetho we-COVID-19,
yi-40% kuphela, phezulu naphantsi, kwaye i-60% iyamkele.

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Ewe, ukuba isiseko sovavanyo esisoloko sinikezelwa
eluntwini sisekelwe rhoqo kumbhoxo wobuxoki, abemi

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abanakwenza isigqibo esifanelekileyo kwibhokisi yovoto.

26:49.720 --> 26:57.980
Kodwa ayiphelelanga apho. Sinengozi – kuyacaca –
ekusebenzeni kwalo lonke ulawulo lomthethosisekelo.

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Sisasaphila kudemokhrasi esekelwe
kumgaqo osisiseko wokwahlulwa kwamagunya.

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Kwaye la magunya kufuneka ahlolisise, alawulane,
alungisane, ngokusekelwe kulwazi azifumanele ngokuzimeleyo.

27:16.159 --> 27:25.186
Kwaye ukuba ungcolisa le nkqubo uze uyakhe kwakhona ngokusekelwe
kumthombo owodwa wolwazi olawula ukuba yintoni inyaniso nokuba

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yintoni ubuxoki, ngoko ke ungcolisa yonke inkqubo yelizwe.

27:29.634 --> 27:34.560
Kwaza ke kwenzeka ukuba iPalamente ithi, hayi,
asinakukwazi ukukungqina oko, kuba i-WHO

27:34.560 --> 27:37.819
isathi iseyisifo esosasazekayo kwihlabathi jikelele.

27:37.819 --> 27:42.807
Okanye kunokwenzeka ukuba zonke
iinkundla zindityhola mna nezigulana zam nge:

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Siyaxolisa, kodwa sisaphakathi kubhubhane, kwaye
abasemagunyeni balandele izindululo ze-WHO njalo njalo.

27:50.557 --> 27:53.931
Ngamanye amazwi, silawulwa
ngokufanelekileyo sisebenzisa iindlela ezikude.

27:53.931 --> 28:01.801
Ilawulwa ukude yi-WHO, kungabandakanywa nalinye ijenerali
yomkhosi, kodwa kungenxa yokuba iinkokeli zethu eziphezulu

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zikarhulumente ngokuzithandela azizihloleli ngokwazo ulwazi,
ngokuzimeleyo nangokuzilawula, kwaye zisuka kulo

28:09.197 --> 28:15.987
mcabango wobuxoki wokuba i-WHO ayinakuphosakala,
ayinakuze ibe yimpazamo kwaye isoloko ilungile.

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Kwaye siyazi ukuba akukho mntu kwihlabathi liphela ongaphosiyo,
ongazenziyo iimpazamo kwaye esoloko echanekile. Enkosi.

28:34.524 --> 28:44.800
Oku akwamkelekanga kwaphela kwaye kufuneka kwaliwe ngamazwi
angqongqo kakhulu, ngokusekelwe kwimeko yezomthetho yangoku.

28:44.800 --> 28:56.093
Ewe, konke oko akusandelaneli kum, xa ndicinga ngezenzo
zobugonyamelo ezenziwa ekugqibeleni kubantu, ngokukwenza nina,

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sonke, nikholelwe kwinto eyingozi ebingekho,
nangokuthengisa unyango oluthiwa alunakushiywa,

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olungenamnye, olungabangeli naziphi na iingxaki zokhuseleko.

29:11.082 --> 29:15.364
Oku kukhohliso kwabantu bonke.

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Kwaye kutheni oko kufanelekile ngokunxulumene ne...
Kutheni oko kubaluleke kangaka? Kulungile, kulula kakhulu.

29:24.174 --> 29:31.924
Sijongene nento ekufuneka ichazwe,
ubuncinci, njengento esekuvavanyweni.

29:31.924 --> 29:38.590
Akukho mntu wayesazi kwangaphambili ukuba yintoni na ezikuzo,
kwaye akukho mntu wayesazi kwangaphambili ukuba

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ezi zinto zisekelwe kwi-mRNA ziya kuba nefuthe
elithini. Lo ngumzekelo ogqibeleleyo wovavanyo.

29:44.721 --> 29:52.266
Kwaye kwimeko enjalo, sinemiqathango ebophelelayo kumthetho
wamazwe ngamazwe nakwiSiseko sethu seFederal, iSihloko

29:52.266 --> 29:59.789
10, isiqendu 3, phantsi kwesakhelo somthetho wamazwe
ngamazwe nakwisakhelo sokwalelwa kokungcungcuthekiswa.

29:59.789 --> 30:05.163
Kwaye oku kuchazwe kakuhle apha kwiSivumelwano
samaZwe ngawo amaLungelo oBomi boLuntu nawezoPolitiko.

30:05.163 --> 30:12.383
Lo ngumthetho wamazwe ngamazwe obophelelayo ngokupheleleyo,
osetyenziswayo nakwimeko yongxamiseko lukawonke-wonke

30:12.383 --> 30:16.255
olusongela ubomi besizwe kwaye lubhengezwe ngokusesikweni.

30:16.255 --> 30:25.031
Akukho nto ingaphandle kwalo mthetho usisiseko. Akukho
mntu unokwenziwa iimvavanyo zonyango okanye zenzululwazi

30:25.031 --> 30:29.167
ngaphandle kwemvume yakhe ngokuzithandela, nanini na.

30:29.167 --> 30:36.229
Kwaye oorhulumente, iipalamente neenkundla
bazivumele kunjalo – bazivumele kunjalo.

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Kum, lelo elona qondiso likhulu neloyikisayo kakhulu kuzo zonke
ezi "minyaka zingonwabanga", kule minyaka yengxaki yeCorona.

30:45.247 --> 30:53.051
Ukuba iimbono ezisisiseko ezinjalo, ezingumphumo wokugqibela
weMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi kwaye ekufuneka zibonwe zinxulumene

30:53.051 --> 31:00.292
neNuremberg Code, zityhalelwa ecaleni nje ngaphandle
kokuthandabuza kwithuba lokuqala, kungenxa nje yokuba abavelisi

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abambalwa bamachiza befuna ukuthengisa iimveliso zabo zegalelo.

31:04.254 --> 31:10.435
Siza kuphelela phi ukuba siyaqhubeka
nokuvumela oku kwaye singayisombululi?

31:16.971 --> 31:20.964
Yinyaniso, lulwaphulo-mthetho oluchasene noluntu olwenzekileyo.

31:20.964 --> 31:29.335
Lulwaphulo-mthetho oluchasene nobuntu olwenziwe yi-WHO, ethi,
ngokuchasene nokuqonda kwayo okungcono, isikhokelele

31:29.335 --> 31:37.045
ekukholelweni kungozi ebingekho kwaphela, kwaye
isaqhubeka nokwenza oko nanamhlanje, kwaye isicenga ukuba

31:37.045 --> 31:41.678
akukho zinye iindlela kwiimveliso eziyingozi nezibulalayo.

31:41.678 --> 31:48.795
Kwaye ngenxa yeso sizathu sodwa,
kufuneka sirhoxise ukuthemba kwethu kwi-WHO.

31:55.332 --> 32:01.221
Ngamafutshane, yintoni esinokulindela kwezi
zilungiso kuMgaqo-nkqubo wezeMpilo weHlabathi?

32:01.221 --> 32:07.948
Yinkqubo yokupheliswa okungekho mthethweni
kwayo yonke imigangatho yomgangatho, kwicandelo

32:07.948 --> 32:11.641
lamachiza nakwicala lobulawuri basemthethweni.

32:11.641 --> 32:17.107
Yinkqubo eyilelwe ukukhohlisa uluntu
njengoko ifuna. Yinkqubo eyilelwe ukunyanzelisa

32:17.107 --> 32:20.375
iimfuno zeenkampani zamachiza njengoko ifuna.

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Inkqubo evumela ukwahlulwa kwamagunya ekhuselweni kwamalungelo
asisiseko ukuba kupheliswe ngesiquphe, kwenze kubonakale ngathi

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kusemthethweni, kunye nezithintelo eziphezulu
kubukhosi nobuzimazi, kunye neengozi ezingenakubalwa kwimpilo

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nakwezoqoqosho, kwanakwizinyanzelo ezichasene noluntu.

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Ngamanye amazwi, ayihambelani
kwaphela nolungiselelo lomgaqo-siseko wethu.

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Kufuneka siyichithe le nto size sithi:
Yeka! Kanye, kwaye oko kundisa esiphelweni.

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Ndicinga ukuba sidinga iindlela zokulawula, sidinga ukupphendula
okuvela kwi-WHO, sidinga iinkqubo zokujonga nokulungelelanisa.

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Kwaye kufuneka siyilahle ingcinga endala yokuba aba
bantu nabo bafanele banikwe ukhuselo olupheleleyo.

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Ngesi sizathu, ndicebisa ukuba usayine izicelo
ezibini njengenyathelo elingxamisekileyo. Kukho

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izicelo ezibini ezijikelezayo ngoku eSwitzerland.

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Kukho umntu osele efuna ukulungisa
ingxaki kanye emthonjeni wayo ngokushiya i-WHO.

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Intliziyo yam iyayibetha ngokwendalo ngale
petishoni, eququzelelwe ngobuchule obukhulu yi-EDU.

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Nathi, njenge-Free Switzerland Action Alliance, singathanda
ukunibiza: ukuba nigqiba kwelokuba nithathe amanyathelo emva

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kwale simpoziyam, ncedani nityelele iwebhusayithi yethu kwaye
niqinisekise ukuba niyisayina le

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petishoni, eninokuyisayina niseJamani okanye
nakweliphi na elinye ilizwe. Kuyinto nje yokuthi:

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IBhunga leFederal kufuneka lahlise ezi zilungiso.
Oku kuza kusinika ixesha lawo onke amanyathelo

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alandelayo. Kwaye ke ngoko, ndiphetha iintetho zam.

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Enkosi kakhulu. Siya kuvuya
ukuxoxa ngokurhoxa kwi-WHO ngenye imini.

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Kuba, njengoko uGorbachev esele
etshilo, sikulungele ukufunda kwimbali.

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Kudala safunda kwimbali, kwaye asifuni kugwetyelwa
ukuyiphinda nangaphantsi kwayo nayiphi na imeko.

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Enkosi kakhulu ngokuqwalasela kwenu.