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Ngemva kokuvunywa kwePhakethe lezikweletu yiKhonsili Yezwe
ngomhlaka 21 Mashi 2025, kwavulwa indlela

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yokukhishwa kwezikweletu okukhulu kunazo zonke
emlandweni weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe yaseJalimane.

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Abezindaba abakhulu babike ukuthi lokhu kuzoba cishe
uthriliyoni olulodwa lwama-euro emalimboleko entsha.

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Nokho, njengoba izibalo zamanje mayelana nesivumelwano
phakathi kwe-CDU/CSU ne-SPD kanye namaGreen

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zikhombisa, intaba entsha yezikweletu ingase ibe nkulu kakhulu.

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Ucwaningi wezomnotho uWolf Heinrich Reuter, owayengumcwaningi
omkhulu wezezimali eMnyangweni Kazwelonke Wezezimali kuze kube

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yilapho inhlangano yombutho ihlukaniswa,
ngakho-ke ulindele isikweletu esisha

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esingu-"okungenani ama-€1.8 trillion" eminyakeni eyishumi ezayo.

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Njengoba kubhekwa le mali enkulu kangaka, ochwepheshe abahamba
phambili kwezomnotho kanye neHhovisi

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Lokuhlola Kwezimali Lwefederal baxwayisa
ngokuphuthumayo ngemiphumela emibi yephakethe lesikweletu.

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Nokho, izixwayiso zabo cishe zalahleka ekubikweni kwezindaba
ezinkulu, futhi kwakukhulunywa nje

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ngokudlula ukuthi yiziphi izazi-zomnotho ezihamba
phambili ezaziphakamisile amazwi azo zixwayisa.

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Lezi, isibonelo, kwakungu- ● Lars Feld: uProfesa
Wezepolitiki Yezomnotho eNyuvesi yaseFreiburg futhi

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owayenguSihlalo weBhodi Yezazi Zezomnotho yaseJalimane

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● UVeronika Grimm: Umcwaningi wezomnotho,
uprofesa eNyuvesi Yezobuchwepheshe yaseNuremberg

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nelungu leKhomishana Yezazi Zezomnotho yaseJalimane

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● UVolker Wieland: uMqondisi we-Institute for Monetary
and Financial Stability (IMFS) eGoethe University eFrankfurt

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futhi owayenguLungu leGerman Council of Economic Experts

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● Justus Haucap: uDini eNyuvesi yaseHeinrich Heine eDüsseldorf
futhi owayenguSihlalo weKomishana Yezimakethe Ezinqunyelwe

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● uChristoph M. Schmidt, uMongameli
weLeibniz Institute for Economic Research

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Bonke laba bochwepheshe bezomnotho abahamba phambili bayesaba
ukuthi iphakethe lemalimboleko lizoshukumisela

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ukwenyuka kwamanani entengo futhi libangele
ukulahlekelwa okukhulu enhlalakahleni yabantu baseJalimane.

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Lokhu kungase kubeke engcupheni ukuzinza kwezezimali
eYurophu futhi kubangele ukuthi inkinga ye-euro iphinde ivuke.

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Kulesi simo, umcwaningi wezomnotho odumile, umeluleki
wezokuphatha nombhali uDkt. Markus Krall

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uphinde abize lokhu njengokweba okukhulu kunakho konke
emlandweni weRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane.

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Bheka ngezansi izingcaphuno ezivela ezingxoxweni
ezimbili ezenziwe ngumfundisi nomlobi odumile uKrissy

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Rieger noDkt. Krall nochwepheshe wezezimali u-Ernst Wolff.

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Banikeza ukuhlaziywa okunembile kwezinhlelo zikahulumeni
kazwelonke omusha okulindelekile ngaphansi kukaFriedrich

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Merz futhi, ngaphezu kwakho konke, bafingqa imiphumela:

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Krissy Rieger: Sawubona nonke, namuhla sinabo uMarkus
Krall ukuze sixoxe. Ngiyabonga kakhulu ngesikhathi sakho.

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Markus Krall: Akukho nto, Nksz Rieger. Futhi futhi.

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Krissy Rieger: Sisabhekene nezikhathi ezinzima,
njengoba sixoxile ngesikhathi sokugcina sixoxa.

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Manje imiphumela yokhetho jikelele
isivele, konke sekuphelile. Uthi yini ngalokho?

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Ingabe nawe wamangala ukuthi i-Union ithole
ukwesekwa okwengeziwe futhi manje njengoba

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imiphumela yokugcina isivele? Ucabanga ukuthini ngalokho?

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Markus Krall: Hhayi-ke, i-Union empeleni yenza kabi
kakhulu kunalokho okwakufanele, ngenxa yokusebenza

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okubhubhisayo kukahulumeni wobumbano we-traffic light.

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Yebo, kahle, uma uphikisayo futhi usibusisiwe
nguhulumeni omubi njengalowo we-CDU eyayiphikisayo, khona-ke

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kufanele uthole cishe phakathi kuka-35 no-40 ekhulwini.

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Empeleni, ngenxa yokusebenza kabi kukaMnu. Merz ngisho nangaphambi
kokhetho, i-CDU yenza kabi uma kuqhathaniswa nezimo ezikhona.

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Futhi uma ucabanga ukuthi, ngemva kokhetho, ususe imaski futhi
hhayi kuphela ephule zonke izithembiso zokhetho, kodwa

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futhi waziguqula, akumangazi ukuthi i-AfD manje isele
ngamaphuzu amabili ephesenti kuphela ngemuva kwe-CDU.

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Futhi ngithemba ukuthi i-AfD izodlula i-CDU masinyane, ukuze
ubusuku bokubulala ngamakhala amade buqale ngaphakathi kwe-CDU

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futhi le nhlangano isuse umongameli wayo ohlulekile ngokuphelele.

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Krissy Rieger: Yisiphi isithembiso
sokhetho esaphukile osithole sibi kakhulu?

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Markus Krall: Kunjalo, kunzima. Empeleni, ngakunye
kwakubi kakhulu kangangokuba kunzima ukwazi ukuthi uqale kuphi.

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Impela, okwakugcizelelwa kakhulu kwakuyikuthi
wayefuna ukulandela izinqubomgomo zezimali eziqinile.

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Manje, kungakapheli amasonto amane, usuthole
izikweletu ezingaphezu kwazo zonke iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe

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LaseJalimane esizibuthe selokhu yasungulwa ngo-1949.

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Zicabange nje lokho. Kuyiqiniso ukuthi akazange aphindaphinde
isikweletu, kodwa iRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane

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yayingasisiqali ngaleso sikhathi ingenaso isikweletu.

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Ngakho-ke, okwakukhona ngaleso sikhathi, umehluko phakathi
kwalokho nalokho okukhona namuhla cishe

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uyahambisana nalokho uMnu. Merz okwamanje akwenzayo futhi
ngesikhathi esisodwa ngephakethe lakhe lezikweletu.

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Ngakho-ke uphindaphinda kabili isikweletu seRiphabhulikhi Yezwe
YaseJalimane, okuzobeka izwe lihambisana ne-Italy, njengoba

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isikweletu sidlula u-100% womkhiqizo kazwelonke ophelele,
okuzoholela ekudidekeni okukhulu kotshalomali lwabucala.

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Utshalomali oluzimele ngaleyo ndlela luyahudulelwa
emuva yilesi sidingo sikahulumeni esiqala ukusebenza.

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Konke lokhu kuwuhambo oluya e-socialism.

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Futhi eyesibili enkulu, eyesibili enkulu yengozi enkulu, yebo,
eyesibili enkulu yengozi enkulu yokwephula

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isithembiso ngokuyisisekelo ihlobene
nokufuduka. Lapha, udlale indima yendoda eqinile.

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Futhi esikubona manje wukuthi watsiba njengethigri waze
wawa waba umqulu wokuhlobisa eduze kombhede kaNksz Esken.

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Yebo, yilokho okufanele uzinikeze kwesinye isikhathi.

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Yebo, ngikholelwa ukuthi njalo ekuseni, ngizobeka
kanjani, uzwa ukuzwa okumnandi kokudlikiza eminwe

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yezinyawo zakhe lapho ehamba phezu kwale rug eseduze kombhede.

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Futhi udaba lwesithathu olukhulu lapho
aphinde ahlulekile ngokuphelele khona, yilokho

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konke okuphathelene namandla nesimo sezulu.

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Ngoba empeleni uyaqhubeka nezinqubomgomo ezibhubhisayo
uHabeck azilandela, ezibangele ukuncipha kwemboni eJalimane.

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Futhi konke lokhu ngokuhlangene, kumele ngisho,
kunesoshiyalizimu ethile efana neka-Honecker.

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Ngakho-ke lokho cishe kuhambisana nalokho
ongakwenza uma ufuna ukuletha ukuwa kweJalimane.

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Krissy Rieger: Ungasho ukuthi ususe
zonke izithembiso zakhe zokhetho, ngokuthi.

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Markus Krall: Yebo, kwakusele sekugugile kancane
ngaphambilini, kodwa manje sekugugile ngempela, ungathi.

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Krissy Rieger: Uma kukhulunywa ngemalimboleko,
abantu bahlale bethi kubalulekile emnothweni.

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Ungathi lezi zikweletu okwamanje ziqhuba
umnotho phambili futhi manje sekuyashintsha?

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Markus Krall: Kuyize ngokuphelele
ukuthi lesi sikweletu singasiza umnotho.

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Lezikweletu zisiza izinkampani ezinkulu, isibonelo
abakhiqizi bezikhali nezinye izinkampani ezimbalwa

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ezinkulu, ezingeke zitshale imali emnothweni waseJalimane.

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Ngakho-ke, ake sithathe isibonelo semali
eyizigidigidi ezingama-500 ekusebenziseni

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kwezokuvikela uMnu. Merz afuna ukuyiqala.

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Ubani ozuzayo ngalokhu? Izinkampani ezifana neRheinmetall.

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Nokho, iRheinmetall ayitshali mali eJalimane ngoba izindleko
zamandla eJalimane ziphezulu kakhulu kule nkqubo yokukhiqiza

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edinga amandla amaningi kangaka, okwenza kungabi nenzuzo kubo.

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Okwamanje bakha izimboni ezintsha zamabhomu
nezinhlobo zonke zezinye izinto kwezinye izingxenye

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zase-Ukraine. Yebo. Bazakha lezo ezingxenyeni zase-Ukraine.

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Bakha isimangaliso esincane somnotho, kodwa
hhayi eJalimane. Futhi kuzoba kanjalo yonke indawo.

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Ngakho-ke le mali izolahleka. Ayizukusiza umnotho nganoma iyiphi
indlela, noma ngabe o-CEO oyedwa noma ababili

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sebebambene izandla becabanga, "Hhawu, lokhu kuzoba kuhle
kakhulu, okuzayo." Yebo, sizothola inzuzo eyengeziwe manje.

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Yebo, abanye bazothola inzuzo engalindelekile, kodwa
amabhizinisi amancane naphakathi ngokwemvelo azohlale

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ecindezelwa ngokulahlekelwa ngenxa yezinkampani ezinkulu.

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Ngakho-ke yilowo umgomo. Uthe muni uMussolini?
Ufashizimu kuwukuhlangana kombuso nezinkampani ezinkulu.

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Siphinde saqala futhi. Ngokwezomnotho, ngisho.

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Futhi esizobona, impela, ukuthi lolu hlelo ngeke
lusize umnotho, kodwa luzodala umonakalo obanzi.

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Kunezizathu eziningana zokuthi kungani kunjalo.

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Okokuqala, lezi zibhilioni eziyi-1,800,
okuyinombolo esivele ikhona, zizodla zonke izimali

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ezigcinwe eJalimane zeminyaka emine nengxenye.

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Ngakho-ke amabhiliyoni angama-400 ayi-10% womkhiqizo
kazwelonke wonke iJalimane oyigcinayo minyaka yonke.

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Ngakho-ke kumele sifake zonke izimali
esizigcinile esikweletini sikazwelonke iminyaka emine

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nengxenye ukuze singaboleki imali kwamanye amazwe.

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Impela, sizophinde sibe namadebhe
phesheya, kodwa nje ukuze sichaze ubukhulu.

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Inkinga yesibili wukuthi amazinga esikweletu
aseJalimane ayehla aye ezingeni lase-Italy.

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Futhi kuze kube manje, i-Italy, i-France nabanye bakwazile
kuphela ukuzibuyisela izikweletu zabo ngendleko ephansi

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ngokwanele ngoba basebenzisa izinga lesikweletu saseJalimane.

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Ngezibambiso nangoyuro kanye nazo zonke
izindlela zokudlulisa ezazisetshenziswe.

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Futhi, impela, baphula zonke izithembiso ezenziwe kithi
ngo-1999 lapho kwethulwa i-euro, kodwa lokho kuyindaba ehlukile.

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Manje-ke iJalimane iwela esithunzini sekhredithi
esifanayo, futhi akekho ongasinika izinga lakhe lekhredithi.

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Umphumela uzoba ukunyuka kwezinga lenzalo kumabondi
aseJalimane nasemalweni emakethe yezimali yamazwe ngamazwe.

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Futhi lezi zinga zenzalo
ezikhuphukayo zizovimba utshalomali oluzimele.

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Umwakhi wezindlu okhokha inzalo engu-5%
noma engu-6% emalimbolekeni yakhe yendlu

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akasakwazi ukuyikhokhela, ngakho ngeke akhe.

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Kuyafana nakubasomabhizinisi abanquma ukuthi
bakhe ifektri noma batshale imali kwisoftware.

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Lezi zitshalomali ngeke zisenzeke, futhi ngolimi lobuchwepheshe
lwezomnotho, lokhu kubizwa ngokuthi 'crowding out'.

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Ngamanye amazwi, ukushintshwa kotshalomali
lwabucala ngokuchitha kwezimali zikahulumeni.

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Futhi-ke, impela, kukhona iqiniso lokuthi ngeke sithole lokho
abantu abakuthemba njengembuyiselo yama-triliyoni angu-1.8.

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Ningakhohlwa ngalokho, bafazi nabesilisa, ukuthi
nizothola ingqalasizinda noma yini enjalo njengokubuyisela.

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Ngizokwenza nje izibalo ngawe. Ngakho-ke,
kuqala sithatha amabhiliyoni angama-500

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ku-triliyoni engu-1.8, okuya ekuthengeni izikhali.

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Izikhali akuyona imali etshaliwe, kodwa ukusetshenziswa
kukahulumeni, ngoba amatanki awafanele ukukhiqiza ezinye izinto.

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Futhi ama-drone namakhathiriji awakwazi. Angashuthelwa kuphela.

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Yebo, ngakho-ke sekuphelela kanje – bahlale bekubiza
ngokuthi ukutshalwa kwezimali – yebo, kumele sitshale

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ekuphepheni kwethu nakuzo zonke lezo zinto ezingasho lutho.

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Yebo, utshalomali olungcono kakhulu ekuphepheni kwethu
kungaba ukufuna ubudlelwano obuhle nabo bonke omakhelwane bethu.

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Kodwa-ke benza impi nabo bonke ngenxa yokuzigqaja okukhulu
esingakaze sikubone kusukela ezinsukwini zika-Adolf noWilhelm.

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Ngakho-ke abantu babiza umongameli waseShayina ngokuthi umbusi
oqinile, nomongameli waseRussia naye, impela, nomongameli

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waseMelika, owadliwa zonke izinhlobo zobuwula
ngenxa yokukholwa okungalungile ukuthi ngeke abe

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ngumongameli. Angifuni ngisho ukubabala bonke lapha.

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Ngempela siyadlala nabo bonke. Futhi-ke kubonakala
sengathi kumele, ngandlela thile, sichithe imali ezokuphepheni

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esingasoze sibe nokuyichitha uma besingakwenzi lokho.

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Ngakho-ke lokho kuwukusetshenziswa
kukahulumeni. Lokho kushiya ama-triliyoni angu-1.3.

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Kule mali engu-1.3 trillion, amabhiliyoni
angama-300 cishe ngeke asetshenziselwe utshalomali,

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kodwa azosetshenziselwa izindleko zababaleki.

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Sekumemezelwe kakade ukuthi izifundazwe zikahulumeni
manje zizosebenzisa lo mnikelo ukuze ziqhubeke nokuxhasa

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ukufuduka, okwamanje sekungasakwazi ukukhokhelwa nhlobo.

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Yebo, khona-ke kusala itriliyoni. Kule triliyoni, ingxenye izoya
kwezotshalomali okuthiwa zokuguquguquka kwesimo

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sezulu, kanti enye ingxenye izoya ekutshalweni
kwezimali kwezokwakha ingqalasizinda yangempela.

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Bafazi nabesilisa, izimali zokutshalwa kwezimali ekulawuleni
isimo sezulu ziyinkcitha ngokuphelele ngoba, nakuba ama-turbine

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omoya ayi-1 000 engakhiqizi ugesi lapho kungekho
moya, ama-turbine omoya ayi-10 000 akhiqiza malini

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ugesi lapho kunomoya? Ngakho-ke lokho ngeke kusebenze.

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Ngakho-ke, uMnu. Habeck akakwazi ukwenza kahle umthetho wokubala
kathathu, futhi kubonakala sengathi uMnu. Merz naye akakwazi.

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Kodwa njengoba ngishilo, uma ama-turbine omoya
ayi-1 000 engakhiqizi lutho, khona-ke

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ama-turbine omoya ayi-10 000 nawo ngeke akhiqize lutho.

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Ngakho-ke ukuphindaphinda ngo-zero kusho zero, bafazi nabesilisa.

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Ngakho-ke, lezigidi ezingama-500 zizokuqhubeka zifakwa
ekutshalweni kwezimali okuchithayo nakwezinye ezingazuzisi.

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Ukudluliswa kwezimali okukhulu kunabo bonke okake kwenzeka.

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Konke lokhu kuzodingeka sikubhidlize kamuva
ngentengo enkulu, ngoba akekho ozokwazi

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ukwenza lutho ngakho uma lobu buhlanya sebuphelile.

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Ngakho-ke kusala amabhiliyoni angama-500
okutshalwa kwezimali kwezokwakha eziyisisekelo

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zangempela. Kodwa uhulumeni uyisithengi esibi kunabo bonke.

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Lapho uhulumeni wakha isakhiwo endaweni ethile, kuhlala
kubiza izikhathi ezimbili kuya kwezintathu ngaphezulu

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ngemitha yesikwele kunalapho abantu abazimele bekha khona.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi konke esikwakha—imigwaqo, amabhuloho,
izakhiwo, izibhedlela, izikole—noma yini

12:39.264 --> 12:44.766
umbuso oyakha, kuhlala kubiza kabili kunalokho
bekungabiza uma izinkampani ezizimele bezizokwenza.

12:44.766 --> 12:51.572
Futhi umphumela uzoba ukuthi kulezi zibhiliyoni ezingama-500
sizothola ingqalasizinda ebiza izibhiliyoni ezingama-250 kuphela.

12:51.572 --> 12:57.959
Futhi uma manje sicabanga ukuthi le demand enkulu, okufunwa
nguhulumeni ukuyidalela, ihlangabezana nomkhakha wokwakha

12:57.959 --> 13:04.837
owohlokekile osinciphile ngesigamu ngenxa yomthetho wokushisa
kaMnu. Habeck, ngoba ubhubhise imakethe yezakhiwo futhi waphusha

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inani elikhulu lezinkampani zokwakha
ekubhujisweni kwezimali, khona-ke le demand enkulu

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manje izohlangabezana nokunikezwa okulinganiselwe.

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Futhi kwenzekani esimweni esinjalo? Amanani ayenyuka.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi ngeke sithole ingqalasizinda
ngama-250 billion, mhlawumbe sizoyithola ngama-150 billion.

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Kodwa-ke sinama-150 billion ezingqalasizindeni,
futhi kubonakala sengathi igebe lomzila wesitimela

13:26.694 --> 13:29.065
kuphela lingu-100 billion, ngakho-ke kusalele ini?

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50 billion, kanti sisebenzisa 50 billion kosizo lwezokuthuthukiswa
kanye ne-15 billion kuma-NGO? Izilinganiso azisafanele.

13:40.380 --> 13:44.860
Bafazi nabesilisa, niyabekwa
umthwalo wamabhili angu-1.8 trillion.

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Izingane zakho nezingane zezingane zakho zisazokhokha
zona, isikhathi eside kunalokho zikhokha iVersailles.

13:48.640 --> 13:54.380
Futhi ngokubuyisana, uzothola ingqalasizinda
ebiza amabhiliyoni angu-150, noma okungenani

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angu-200, kuMnu. Merz. Yilokho okuzokwenzeka.

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Manje sekuphelile ngokuthi kube kuhle emnothweni. Lena yinkohliso
enkulu kunazo zonke eyake yenzeka kubantu baseJalimane.

14:05.331 --> 14:10.273
Krissy Rieger: Nami ngiyabona kanjalo. Futhi uthe izizukulwane
ezizayo zisazokhokha ngalokho. Uhlelo lunjani lapho?

14:10.273 --> 14:20.145
Phela kukhona futhi ukukhuluma ngokusebenzisa ukonga kwabantu,
mhlawumbe intela yengcebo. Konke lokhu kungakhokhwa kanjani?

14:20.145 --> 14:24.486
Markus Krall: Hhayi-ke, ukukhokha kwakho kuzoba
yindaba ethokozisayo. Ingxenye enkulu yokukhokha

14:24.486 --> 14:26.726
izokwenzeka ngenxa yokwenyuka kwamanani entengo.

14:26.726 --> 14:33.276
Lokhu kusho ukuthi izakhamuzi ezitshale imali yazo ezibopheni
zikahulumeni nasezindinganisweni ezibekiwe, njengomshwalense

14:33.276 --> 14:38.645
wokuphila, umshwalense wemiholo yokuthatha
umhlalaphansi, ama-akhawunti wokonga, njll., noma ngemali

14:38.645 --> 14:42.420
esandleni, zizophucwa impahla yazo ngenxa yokwenyuka kwentengo.

14:42.420 --> 14:48.162
Futhi lokho kuzokwenzeka kanjani? Akungeneki
ukuqoqela leyo mali emakethe yezimali ngaphandle

14:48.162 --> 14:52.573
kokubangela ukunyuka okukhulu kwezinga lenzalo.

14:52.573 --> 14:53.888
Ngiyaxolisa

14:53.888 --> 15:00.488
Ngakho-ke, ngezithengisi ezifana neBlackRock,
ezizothola ingcebo ngalokhu, lezi zibopho

15:00.488 --> 15:04.880
zizothengwa ngqo eRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane.

15:04.880 --> 15:09.360
Futhi-ke i-BlackRock izobathengisa
e-ECB. Ngenani eliphezulu, vele.

15:09.360 --> 15:14.220
Lokhu kusho ukuthi iBlackRock izocindezela
izinkinobho ezimbili njalo, okungukuthi ukuthenga

15:14.220 --> 15:16.886
nokuthengisa. Futhi khona-ke kuzothunyelwa e-ECB.

15:16.886 --> 15:20.346
Futhi ngokushintshisana, sithola inzuzo
yebhiliyoni lama-pounds, engenabo ubungozi, ngaphandle

15:20.346 --> 15:22.693
kwemizamo, ngokucindezela izinkinobho ezimbili nje.

15:22.693 --> 15:25.445
Yilokho okuzokwenzeka. Yingakho
i-BlackRock icabanga ukuthi kuhle kangaka.

15:25.445 --> 15:30.409
Futhi yilokho okwenza uMnu. Merz, njengowayengu-CEO
we-BlackRock eYurophu futhi ongumongameli weBhodi Lokwengamela

15:30.409 --> 15:32.926
le-BlackRock eYurophu, acabange ukuthi kuhle kangaka.

15:32.926 --> 15:36.373
Ngakho umqashi wakhe wangaphambilini,
uLarry Fink, usuyashaya izandla zakhe ndawonye.

15:36.373 --> 15:40.375
Impela, ungumnikazi wamasheya
omkhulu kuyo yonke imboni yezikhali.

15:40.375 --> 15:43.426
Okusho ukuthi, labo abazozuzisa kuleli hlaselo.

15:43.426 --> 15:46.606
Kubukeka kanjalo. Ngakho-ke uMr Merz uthembeke kubani?

15:46.606 --> 15:54.120
Kuyabonakala ukuthi akunjalo kubantu baseJalimane, kubo watshela
amanga amaningi ngokuthi ungumpolitiki wezezimali oqinile.

15:54.120 --> 15:57.888
Yilokho okuzokwenzeka.

15:57.888 --> 16:04.158
Futhi lapho i-BlackRock ithenga lezi zibopho
ezinkulu kangaka bese izidayisa e-ECB, i-ECB

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izozithenga ngemali entsha esanda kushicilelwa.

16:08.100 --> 16:10.804
Futhi lokho kuzokwandisa ukunikezwa
kwemali. Futhi lokhu kukhuphuka kokunikezwa kwemali

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kunomthelela wokwenyuka kwamanani entengo.

16:12.746 --> 16:19.589
Futhi lapho inani lemali elikhishwa likhula kahle futhi imali
yehliswa inani layo, lezi zitriliyoni eziyi-1.8 zizobuyiselwa

16:19.589 --> 16:26.360
ngokuyinhloko ngokwehliswa kwenani lezinkontileka zomshwalense
wokuphila, amabondi kahulumeni kanye nezikhwama zokonga.

16:26.360 --> 16:30.386
Ngakho-ke kususwa ngqo kumuntu wesifunda ngale ndlela.

16:30.386 --> 16:32.740
Ayikho isidlo sasemini samahhala, bafazi nabesilisa.

16:32.740 --> 16:39.993
Umbuso kuzohlala kumele ukwenze izakhamuzi zawo zikhokhe
konke okusetshenziswayo. Akekho umkhombandlela wokugwema lokhu.

16:39.993 --> 16:45.281
Krissy Rieger: Izimpikiswano ezilandelayo
zentela sezizayo. I-CDU, noma uMerz, ithembise

16:45.281 --> 16:48.246
ukuthi kuzoba nokwehliswa okwengeziwe kwentela.

16:48.246 --> 16:52.746
Kodwa manje kubonakala sengathi lokhu nakho
akunakwenzeka. Uyini umbono wakho ngalokhu?

16:52.746 --> 16:59.340
Ngabe sizobona nini intela yehliswa eJalimane
ngaphandle kokwethulwa kwezinye eziyishumi ngasikhathi sinye?

16:59.340 --> 17:03.080
Markus Krall: Hhayi, akunjalo phakathi kwale
kilasi yezepolitiki. Lokho kucacile ngokuphelele.

17:03.080 --> 17:06.946
Akubalulekile ukuthi unikeza bona malini.

17:06.946 --> 17:13.353
Ungakhuphula izintela nakakhulu. Ungathatha izikweletu
eziningi nakakhulu. Akusoze kwanele. Akusoze kwanele.

17:13.353 --> 17:19.648
Ukugqugquzela kwale kilasi yezombusazwe,
kanye nobugebengu bayo, akunamkhawulo.

17:19.648 --> 17:25.220
Akunandaba ukuthi unganika kangakanani, ubugovu
babo buyoqhubeka bukhula. Kulula ukubikezela lokho.

17:25.220 --> 17:30.997
Yingakho le kilasi yezepolitiki ingeke iletha ukuncishiswa
kwezintela, noma ukukhululeka kwangempela, noma ukwenziwa lula

17:30.997 --> 17:35.054
kwezintela, noma uhlobo oluthile
lokuguqulwa. Esikhundleni salokho, kuzoba nokunyuswa

17:35.054 --> 17:38.060
kwezintela okuhambisana nokwanda kwamakweletu.

17:38.060 --> 17:41.406
Futhi abantu bazochitha imali ngokukhululekile.

17:41.406 --> 17:48.920
Sasanda kubuyela eSyria futhi futhi sashiya izigidi ezingama-300
kubabulali bokubhubhisa abantu abasebusa khona manje.

17:48.920 --> 17:53.373
Manje sesisebenzisa imali yethu yentela ukuxhasa ukubulawa
kwabantu ngobuhlanga kwama-Alawite, ama-Druze namaKristu.

17:53.373 --> 17:56.284
Yilokho okwenzekayo. Lokhu kumele kuchazwe ngokusobala kakhulu.

17:56.284 --> 17:58.480
Ngokwami, ngikholelwa ukuthi lokhu kuyasiza
futhi kuyakhuthaza ubugebengu bokubhujiswa

17:58.480 --> 18:00.207
kwabantu ngokobuhlanga, futhi kuyahlonywa ngumthetho.

18:00.207 --> 18:05.039
Futhi laba bantu empeleni bonke bafanele ukuba
enkantolo ngoba basekela umbuso owenza ubugebengu

18:05.039 --> 18:08.406
bokubulala abantu ngobuhlanga ezinyathelweni zawo zegazi.

18:08.406 --> 18:10.266
Kodwa lokho kuwudaba ohlukile ngokuphelele.

18:10.266 --> 18:13.206
Ukusetshenziswa kwezimali kuzoqhubeka kuyinqwaba.

18:13.206 --> 18:19.446
Noma ubani okholelwa ukuthi lokhu kungenxa kuphela yokufuna
ukuchitha imali, akayazi iqembu lethu lezepolitiki elingcolile.

18:19.446 --> 18:25.816
Ngiyazi nakanjani ukuthi iningi lezepolitiki zethu line-akhawunti
eDubai noma kwenye indawo lapho imali yokubuyiselwa ibhalelwa

18:25.816 --> 18:31.234
khona. Bathumela khona izigidi ezimbalwa zemali, bese bethola
izigidi ezimbalwa ku-akhawunti endaweni ekude,

18:31.234 --> 18:36.640
lapho imithetho yokuhlanza imali ingasebenzi khona
futhi lapho ungakwazi ukwenza noma yini oyifunayo.

18:36.640 --> 18:41.248
Ngakho-ke, ngikholelwa ukuthi lokho
okwenziwa yileli qembu lethu lezepolitiki lapha

18:41.248 --> 18:44.700
kuyisu lobugebengu lokweba abantu baseJalimane.

18:44.700 --> 18:50.089
Futhi eMelika sekwavela manje ukuthi ingxenye
enkulu yamabhiliyoni ayehlela e-Ukraine,

18:50.089 --> 18:54.639
isibonelo, ibuyele kubaphathi bezepolitiki beDemocratic.

18:54.639 --> 19:00.393
Ngakho-ke kwaba ukuthengiselana okujikelezayo okwakukhokhelwa
abantu besithathu, okungukuthi umkhokhisi wentela waseMelika.

19:00.393 --> 19:04.192
Uma eJalimane kuhluke, ngizodla
isihlangu, kuhlanganise nentonga yaso.

19:04.192 --> 19:11.680
Krissy Rieger: Ikusasa, lokhu manje kuyimibuzo yami yokugcina,
ulindele ikusasa elinjani eJalimane eminyakeni emihlanu?

19:11.680 --> 19:18.580
Markus Krall: Ngicabanga ukuthi eminyakeni emihlanu
ezayo sizoba ikusasa elingcono kunalelo esinalo manje.

19:18.580 --> 19:25.221
Okwamanje, noma kunjalo, sizobhekana nengozi enkulu kakhulu uMnu.
Merz azoyiholela kuleli, ngoba uzimisele ukuba

19:25.221 --> 19:32.500
iChancellor ngomusa wezandla zasekhohlo, akunjalo?
Lona ngiphupho lakhe elikhulu kakhulu empilweni yakhe.

19:32.500 --> 19:34.240
Ngiyaxolisa

19:34.240 --> 19:40.653
Futhi izinqubomgomo ayilandela manje ngempela
zizoholela enhluphekweni kuzo zonke izigaba.

19:40.653 --> 19:47.766
Ngokwezomnotho, lokhu kuzoholela ekunciphisweni
okukhulu kwezimboni kanye nokuphunyuka okukhulu kwezinkampani.

19:47.766 --> 19:55.233
Ngisanda kuqaphela lokhu manje lapho ngikhuluma nabacebisi
bokuthola abasebenzi ababeka abaphathi abengekho emsebenzini.

19:55.233 --> 20:02.261
Muva nje ngibe nezingxoxo ezimbalwa nabangane abasebhizinisini,
bonke bangitshela ukuthi esikhathini esedlule, lapho

20:02.261 --> 20:09.290
babenabafakisicelo, kwakuvamile ukuthi abafakisicelo bathi,
"Yebo, ngifuna ukubona ukuthi ngingazithuthukisa kanjani

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lapha. Ngidinga isinyathelo esilandelayo emsebenzini wami."

20:14.016 --> 20:20.569
Futhi manje sekunjalo ukuthi abantu bafuna umsebenzi belindele
ukuhlelwa kabusha, ukuthuthela kwenye

20:20.569 --> 20:27.506
indawo, ukuvalwa kwezinkampani, ukungakwazi
ukukhokha izikweletu – yonke imikhakha, akunjalo?

20:27.506 --> 20:33.321
Lokhu kusho ukuthi kuzo zonke izigaba sizobona
izinkampani ziwa noma zithuthela kwenye indawo,

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noma zinciphisa ukukhiqiza futhi zixosha abasebenzi.

20:36.112 --> 20:39.026
Sesivele sinenani eliphezulu kakhulu
lokungasebenzi eminyakeni eyishumi, akunjalo?

20:39.026 --> 20:46.723
Ukungasebenzi kuyanda kakhulu, futhi lokhu kuzokushesha;
ukubhujiswa kwezinkampani nakho sekukhuphuke iminyaka emithathu

20:46.723 --> 20:50.933
nengxenye kuya kwemine, kubekwa amarekhodi amasha minyaka yonke.

20:50.933 --> 20:54.633
Ama-zombie ayawa, njengoba
bengikushilo isikhathi eside, akunjalo?

20:54.633 --> 21:00.888
Ama-zombie ayawa, ayawa manje, ayawa
ngobuningi, yebo, le nkinga yezomnotho izoba mbi

21:00.888 --> 21:04.433
kakhulu ngenxa yezinqubomgomo zikaMnu. Merz.

21:04.433 --> 21:08.497
Impela, uma imali eyanele isatshalaliswa,
kuzoba nezinyanga ezimbalwa, mhlawumbe ngisho

21:08.497 --> 21:11.273
nezikota ezimbalwa, zenhlalakahle ebonakalayo.

21:11.273 --> 21:17.388
Nokho, lokhu kuzoxhaswa futhi kuzoxhaswa ngokweqile ngenxa
yokudilika komkhakha wethu wokuthekelisa, okokuqala ngoba

21:17.388 --> 21:21.922
asisakwazi ukuncintisana, futhi okwesibili
ngoba amaMelika azokwehlisa ukusetshenziswa

21:21.922 --> 21:24.480
kukahulumeni wawo ngo-3 kuya ku-5 tiriliyoni.

21:24.480 --> 21:28.213
Ngakho-ke i-DOGE , isaha yamandla iyayisika ngempela,

21:28.213 --> 21:33.253
Futhi ukuncipha kokusetshenziswa kukahulumeni waseMelika
kuzoholela ekuncipheni okukhulu kakhulu

21:33.253 --> 21:38.846
kwesidingo sokungenisa eMelika, futhi isidingo
sabo sokungenisa yisidingo sethu sokuthekelisa.

21:38.846 --> 21:43.624
Futhi lokho nakho kuzoba nomthelela eChina, lapho izinyathelo
zaseMelika nazo zizovusa ingxabano

21:43.624 --> 21:48.033
yokulungisa, futhi uma iChina nayo incipha, ngeke kube
khona isidingo esivela eChina semikhiqizo yethu.

21:48.033 --> 21:55.738
Ngakho-ke lokho kusho ukuthi kuzophela,
yonke imiphumela izohlangana ngasikhathi sinye,

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bese izwe libhekene nokubhujiswa komnotho.

21:59.446 --> 22:05.973
Ngakho-ke, ngokusekelwe kokuhlangenwe nakho, iklasi lezepolitiki
elibhekene nokubhujiswa komnotho selilungele ukulwa impi.

22:05.973 --> 22:12.973
Ngisola ukuthi ngisho nangaphambi kokuba kuqale impi,
uMnu. Merz uzohambisa izimisa ze-Taurus, ngemvume

22:12.973 --> 22:17.386
yokudlula nomvume yokuhlasela, e-Ukraine evela eRussia.

22:17.386 --> 22:23.985
Ngaleyo ndlela, ake ngibeke kanje, unombono
ovulekile ngokwanele ukuthi angasebenzisi amagama

22:23.985 --> 22:28.672
angahumusha ngokushesha njengokuhlambalaza abezepolitiki.

22:28.672 --> 22:38.046
Futhi uma elinye lale misayela ye-Taurus lingahlasela iMoscow,
noma ngisho neKremlin, ngiyesaba ukuthi amaRashiya azosithumelela

22:38.046 --> 22:47.639
ulwazi mayelana nezindawo zaseBerlin nezimboni ezithile eNingizimu
Bavaria, lapho i-Taurus ikhiqizwa khona, esizovunyelwa ukuzisusa

22:47.639 --> 22:53.826
ukuze sinciphise ukulimala kwabantu okubangelwa ukuphindisela.

22:55.840 --> 23:04.393
Krissy Rieger: Masishaye ngqo endabeni yamanje. Ucabanga ukuthini
ngesivumelwano senhlangano? Yiziphi izingxenye ezikukhathazayo?

23:04.393 --> 23:10.206
Ernst Wolff: Okukhathazayo ngempela yisithombe esikhulu.
Isivumelwano sokubambisana sinemigomo emibili eyinhloko.

23:10.206 --> 23:14.186
Okokuqala ukuzihlomisa kabusha, okwesibili ukudijithala.

23:14.186 --> 23:22.766
Ngakho-ke, kimi, isivumelwano sokubambisana siyikarte blanji nje
ku-BlackRock ukuze ithole ukulawula okukhulu kakhulu eJalimane.

23:22.766 --> 23:27.046
Ngakho-ke kufanele ukhumbule ukuthi Amabutho
Ezempi aseJalimane asevele aqalile ngempela.

23:27.046 --> 23:34.506
Baye ba-oda izindiza zempi ze-F-35. Lezi
zizophethwa noma zikhiqizwe yi-Lockheed Martin.

23:34.506 --> 23:39.168
Abaninimasheya abakhulu nguBlackRock, Vanguard noState Street.

23:39.168 --> 23:41.966
Kwabe sekuyalelwa amahelikoptha namasubmarines.

23:41.966 --> 23:49.193
UMnu Merz kusukela lapho uthe usekela
ukuhlinzeka ngama-missile eTaurus e-Ukraine.

23:49.193 --> 23:53.260
Amasilayidi eTaurus akhiqizwa yi-MBDA neSaab.

23:53.260 --> 24:00.066
I-MBDA ingumkhandlu ongaphansi
kwe-Airbus, okuyingxenye ye-BAE Systems.

24:00.066 --> 24:06.380
Futhi, kunjalo, kukhona nabaninimasheya abakhulu
kunabo bonke, phakathi kwabo kufakwa iBlackRock.

24:06.380 --> 24:10.736
Uma kukhulunywa ngokwedijithali, sonke siyazi
ukuthi i-BlackRock ingumtshali-zimali oyinhloko

24:10.736 --> 24:13.320
ngemuva kwazo zonke izinkampani ezinkulu zedijithali.

24:13.320 --> 24:19.941
Futhi sonke siyazi ukuthi uMnu. Merz wayenguSihlalo
weBhodi Yokuqapha yeBlackRock Germany eminyakeni

24:19.941 --> 24:24.005
eholela ku-2020, okungukuthi kusukela ngo-2016 kuya ku-2020.

24:24.005 --> 24:33.240
Ngakho-ke konke lokhu akuyona enye into ngaphandle kwesimemo
seBlackRock sokuba iqhubeke nokusatshalaliswa okukhulu eJalimane.

24:33.240 --> 24:37.653
Abantu baseJalimane bazokhokha futhi iBlackRock izothola inzuzo.

24:37.653 --> 24:43.104
Ernst Wolff: Sizobona izinga lokungasebenzi eliphezulu kunawo
wonke, futhi lokhu kuzokwenzeka kulesi sikhathi somthetho.

24:43.104 --> 24:50.519
Sizobona amanani eqhubeka nokunyuka kakhulu, njengoba enze
kuze kube manje. Lokhu kuzoba ikakhulukazi emkhakheni wokudla.

24:50.519 --> 24:55.066
Sizobhekana nokungazinzi okukhulu.
Njengamanje siyabona izimpi zokuhweba.

24:55.066 --> 25:00.025
Abakhuthazi ngempela ukuzinza ezindabeni zezomnotho
zamazwe ngamazwe, kodwa kunalokho baphambene nakho.

25:00.025 --> 25:04.665
Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, sizobona into eyodwa. Sizobona
ukusatshalaliswa kabusha okukhulu kusuka ezansi kuya phezulu.

25:04.665 --> 25:09.944
Ngakho-ke ngifuna ukukukhumbuza ukuthi
ngoLwesithathu odlule, ama-biliyoni emhlabeni athole

25:09.944 --> 25:12.579
inzuzo enkulu kunazo zonke ngosuku olulodwa.

25:12.579 --> 25:16.426
Bathola izigidigidi ezingama-303 ngoLwesithathu odlule.

25:16.426 --> 25:20.472
Futhi lokho akusikho ngenxa yokuthi izimakethe zezabelo
zikhuphuke kakhulu, kodwa ngenxa yokuthi zehla kakhulu

25:20.472 --> 25:22.793
ngosuku olulodwa futhi zaphinda zenyuka ngosuku olulandelayo.

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Futhi kulesi sikhathi, ungazuza kakhulu ekwehleni
kwamanani uma uneluleki abafanele nolwazi lwangaphakathi

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olufanele. Futhi laba bantu ngokusobala babe nalokho.

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Krissy Rieger: Konke kunzima kakhulu, kakhulu, kakhulu. Manje
ungase ucabange ukuthi lokho kuwukuhlaziywa kwakho siqu nje, kodwa

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uMerz ukusho ngokusobala kakhulu: uthi konke kuzobiza kakhulu.

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Ernst Wolff: Yebo, impela, lokho akunakugwemeka nhlobo.

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Ngakho-ke sizobona ukuhlanza kwangempela kwemali.

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Ngakho-ke inkulu kakhulu kunaleyo eyayikhona ngemuva
kwenhlekelele yezimali yomhlaba wonke yango-2007 no-2008.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi amanani azokhuphuka kakhulu.

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Ngakho-ke siyazi ukuthi lo mkhumbi okuthiwa
uwukhethekile manje usuqalile ukusebenza.

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Ngakho-ke manje sekugunyaziwe futhi nguhulumeni.

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Lokho kungama-500 billion wemalimboleko entsha. Vele, lokhu
kumele kubuyiselwe ngendlela ethile ngama-bhonasi kahulumeni.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi, ngempela, imali
eningi kakhulu ibuyele ekujikelezeni futhi

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imali uqobo iyaqhubeka nokwehliswa inani layo.

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Ngakho-ke kumele silindele ukuthi
imali izolahlekelwa kakhulu inani maduze.

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Ngokuka Markus Krall no Ernst Wolff, izakhamuzi
zaseJalimane ngaleyo ndlela zizokhokhela izinqubomgomo

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ezisekela i-BlackRock ngendlela engakaze ibonwe ngaphambili.

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Kodwa ngubani ongemuva kwe-BlackRock, umphathi
wezimpahla omkhulu kunabo bonke emhlabeni

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onezimpahla ezingaphezu kuka-£10 trillion eziphathwayo?

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Amaklayenti ayo ahlanganisa izikhungo ezifana namabhange,
izisekelo, izimali zikahulumeni ezizimele

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kanye nezimali zomhlalaphansi, futhi
ngaphezu kwakho konke abatshalizimali abazimele.

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Laba ngabacebile kakhulu,
njengamaRothschild, amaRockefeller noWarren Buffet.

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Ukuphakama kwe-BlackRock kwaba ngumphathi wezimpahla omkhulu
kunabo bonke kungenxa, isibonelo, yokudluliselwa

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kwezimpahla okuvela kwaba kaRothschilds okulingana
cishe namadola aseMelika ayizigidigidi ezingama-2.8.

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AbakwaRothschild bangabanye babaholi
be-Freemasonry ezingeni eliphezulu emhlabeni wonke.

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Kuyathakazelisa ukuthi uLarry Fink, umsunguli nomphathi
omkhulu weBlackRock, ungumFreemason osezingeni eliphezulu

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futhi uyilungu lamalodge ayisithupha amandulo anamandla.

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Ngakho-ke i-BlackRock ingabonwa njengethuluzi le-mafia yezimali
kanye ne-Freemasonry yomhlaba wonke esezingeni eliphezulu.

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Njengoba sekuboniswe ohlelweni "Lesi sicwasa siyabhubhisa
iJalimane" , uFriedrich Merz akayena nje umsekeli wale mafia.

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Ububulungu bakhe ochungechungeni oluphelele lwezinhlangano
ezinethonya elikhulu zabakwa-Freemason abasezikhundleni

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eziphezulu kubonisa ukuthi, njengaye u-Freemason
osezikhundleni eziphezulu u-Olaf Scholz,

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ungumuntu obekwe phambili kwale khathalela yobugebengu.

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Ukubamba kwakhe iqhaza eNgqungqutheleni
yaseBilderberg ka-2024 kusho ngisho ukuthi ungummeli okhethiwe

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we-mafia yezimali ye-Freemasonry ephakeme eJalimane.

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Umsebenzi okubonakala manje ukuthi
uyawubhekana nawo ngokuzimisela okukhulu futhi

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okuwubangela umonakalo omkhulu kubantu baseJalimane.

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Njengoba iphakethe lemalimboleko lisebenzela kuphela
izintshisekelo zabo, kumele liphinde

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limemezwe njengomunye wobugebengu bale
khathaleli, ebulala njengomdlavuza phakathi kwabantu.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, uhlelo "I-Agenda Yokuvuselelwa Okukhulu –
Ukuwohloka Komnotho NeMpi" , kuchazwe ukuthi cishe iminyaka

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eyishumi manje, iJalimane ne-EU ziye zabhujiswa ngenhloso
kwezomnotho ngenxa yezinqubomgomo ezilawulwa ama-Freemason

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aphezulu futhi kungenzeka ukuthi ziholwa ngqo empini neRussia.

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Inhloso yalaba zibhedli akusikho nje ukweba, kodwa futhi
i-"Great Reset" eyamenyezelwa nguKlaus Schwab, i-Freemason

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esezingeni eliphezulu nomseki we-World Economic Forum (WEF).

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Lokhu, ngokulandelana, kuhloswe ngakho ukusungula
uhlelo olusha lwezwe lonke olunohulumeni owodwa, lapho

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amazwe anamandla kwezomnotho futhi azimele engenalendawo.

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Ngokubuka ngalendlela, iphakethe lemalimboleko,
nemiphumela yalo ebhubhisayo eJalimane nasekuzinzeni kwezezimali

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kwe-eurozone yonke, lithatha ubukhulu obusha ngokuphelele.

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Kuyabonakala ukuthi uFriedrich Merz, ebambisene ne-SPD, akagcini
nje ngokuqhubeka ngokushelelayo nomsebenzi wokubhubhisa

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kahulumeni wangaphambilini, kodwa futhi uyawusheshisa kuze kufike
ekubhujisweni komnotho nasekubolekeleni ngokweqile kweJalimane.

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Njengoba kwabhalwa ngumxusa wezimfihlo uJohn Perkins , intuthuko
enjalo ivula umnyango ekuhlaselweni okwengeziwe, ibangela

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umjikelezo wangempela wokubhujiswa kwezimali futhi
ekugcineni ifaka izizwe ngaphansi kolawulo oluphelele kwaleli

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qembu lobugebengu noma izilungiselela i-"Great Reset" yalo.

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Kodwa kanjani futhi ngaluphi uhlobo lwamathuluzi la macebo
abhubhisayo angavinjelwa – nguDonald Trump,

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omunye umsindisi noma amaqembu ezombusazwe
amasha? Ukuze siphethe, lalela u-Ernst Wolff:

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Krissy Rieger: Futhi-ke abantu bathi, kahle,
sinabo uMilei noTrump. Futhi noma ngubani

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omunye ofuna ukumfaka kulolu hlu njengabamsindisi.

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Manje sesikhuluma ngokuthi lokho akunjalo
nhlobo, nokuthi abakwenzayo akusizi iningi.

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Ungasho ukuthi yini umthombo wethemba kubantu abaningi?

30:18.993 --> 30:22.226
Ernst Wolff: Yebo, umphathi wethemba
yizixuku ngokwazo. Yibo abantu ngokwabo.

30:22.226 --> 30:25.800
Ngakho-ke wonke umuntu kumele azi ukuthi
akekho ozosisindisa ngaphandle kwethu siqu.

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Futhi ukuze sizisindise, kumele kuqala
siqonde okwenzekayo ezungezile kithi.

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Futhi yingakho kubalulekile kangaka
ukubhekana nalezi zinkinga, hhayi ukuzifihla.

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Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke,
ungamlandeli omunye umuntu nje ngamehlo avaliwe.

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Ngakho-ke abantu abasezikhundleni
okwamanje, ngisho, awudingi ukubheka kabili.

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Laba ngabantu abazijabulisa ekuchumeni.

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Ngakho-ke uDonald Trump ungomunye wabantu abacebile
abayikhulu emhlabeni. UMilei naye uphila impilo yokunethezeka.

30:50.926 --> 30:54.513
Ngakho-ke abantu bahlala beqhuba ukwenza
abangane babo nabalingani babo bacebe.

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Futhi ukulindela abantu abanjalo ukuthi ngezikhathi
ezithile bawise ingcezu encane yokudla epuleti lakho,

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kunjalo, kuwumqondo ophelele wokuphila ongalungile.

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Ngakho-ke kumele kushiwo ukuthi umhlaba empeleni
usesimo esiphuthumayo, esiyingozi kakhulu kakhulu.

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Ngoba siyazi ukuthi kunokulwa yonke indawo.
Siyazi futhi ukuthi ukungalingani emphakathini

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okwamanje sekudubula kwezinga elingacabangeki.

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Siyazi ukuthi igagasi elikhulu lokungasebenzi liyafika kithi.

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Futhi kumele sizilungiselele lezi zikhathi.

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Futhi akekho ongaphandle ongasisiza lapho;
kuzofanele sizincike ngokuphelele thina.

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Krissy Rieger: Ngempela. Ikakhulukazi uma ucabanga ukuthi lolu
hlelo lusebenza ngendlela eluqeqesha ukuthi singabuzi imibuzo,

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noma, masithi, sibuze kuphela imibuzo efanele,
singacabangi kakhulu ngaphandle kwebhokisi, futhi,

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ngaphezu kwakho konke, sihlale singathathi zinyathelo.

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Futhi konke lokhu ngokwencazelo ethi,
hey, uzokwenza, ngizolinda nje ngibone.

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Futhi lokhu kulinda kusenza sizizwe
sengathi siphila ebuweni bobuphekula.

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Bese uvuka ucabanga ngaphakathi, lokhu
kwenzeke kanjani? Angazi, ngabe ngangikhona?

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Ernst Wolff: Yebo, inkinga ukuthi
ukungathathi zinyathelo kubhekwa abanye njengokuvuma.

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Ngakho-ke uma abantu bengasebenzi,
labo abasemandleni baqhubeka nje.

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UJean-Claude Juncker we-EU, owayenguMongameli
weKhomishini ngaleso sikhathi, wakusho kahle kakhulu.

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Wathi sizohamba kuphela lapho abantu besivumela khona.

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Futhi lapho abantu bemile, sithatha
isinyathelo emuva bese siyaqhubeka futhi.

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Futhi inqobo nje abantu bengakwenzi lutho,
sibona lokho njengokwamukela lokho esikwenzayo.

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Krissy Rieger: Yebo, uyifingqiwe kahle kakhulu. Ngiyabonga.
Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, ngiyabonga ngolwazi lonke.

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Ungaqala kancane kancane ukuhlanganisa isithombe sesimo sonke.

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Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, ngithola njalo
sengathi kuwukushaywa emhlane uma othile ethi,

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kulungile, lapha siphela. Sengikwanele. Cha. Ngiyabonga.

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Ernst Wolff: Ngiyabonga.

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Uma lolu hlelo lukunike ukudla
kwengqondo, ungagcini ngakho wedwa.

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Siza ukusabalalisa lezi ziqiniso futhi ukhuthaze abanye
ukuthi bacabange ngemiphumela yephakethe lesikweletu.