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A cikin Hungary, akwai matsalolin lafiya da dama
tsakanin jarirai, yara, matasa har ma da manya.

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An tattauna yadda waɗannan raunuka suka shafi alluran rigakafi na
baya a cikin hirar da aka yi da wani likita da wani lauya daga

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Hungary, da kuma wata uwa da abin ya shafa, wadda ke da yara
uku da aka haifa cikin koshin lafiya amma yanzu suna da nakasa.

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A cewar bincikensu, adadin yara da aka gano suna da
autism bayan yin rigakafi ya karu matuka a Hungary.

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Yawancin ƙoƙarin 'yan Hungary na kula da waɗannan yara, suna
tallafa musu – ko kuma suna fafutuka tare da

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iyayensu domin tabbatar da cewa tilastawar yin
rigakafi ga yara ba ta da wajibci a Hungary.

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Allurar tilas? Shin allurar
rigakafi a gaskiya tilas ce a Hungary?

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A gaskiya, an fara tilasta yin rigakafi na
farko a Hungary tun a shekarar 1876, sannan wasu

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kuma suka biyo baya a 1954 da shekarun 1960.

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A yau, ana yi wa duk jariran da aka haifa a Hungary
rigakafin TB ba tare da an nemi izinin iyayensu ba.

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A shekarun 1997 da 1998, Ma'aikatar Lafiya
ta Hungary ta kafa dokokin lafiya da suka

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gabatar da ƙarin rigakafi kan wasu cututtuka.

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A halin yanzu, ana yi wa yaran Hungary alluran rigakafi da yawa
masu haɗari don rigakafin diphtheria, mura

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mai ƙararrawa, tetanus, polio da Haemophilus
influenzae nau'in b a watanni 2, 3, 4 da 18.

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Bugu da ƙari, ana ba da alluran rigakafin
pneumokok a watanni 2, 4 da 12 na shekara.

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An ba da rigakafin haɗin measles, mumps da
rubella a lokacin cika watanni 15, kuma ana ba da

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rigakafin chickenpox ga jarirai masu watanni 13 da 16.

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Iyaye 'yan Hungary ba za su iya keɓe 'ya'yansu daga alluran
rigakafin da ake buƙata ba, ko da kuwa akwai yaro a cikin iyali

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wanda ya sha mummunan lahani ga lafiyarsa bayan yin rigakafi.

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Lokacin da yara suka fara zuwa cibiyar kula da yara da
makarantar rassa, jinya-jinyan yara da masu haihuwa da ke kula

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da su tun haihuwa suna da alhakin duba matsayin rigakafinsu.

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A makaranta, ana yin alluran
rigakafi ga dukkan ajujuwan makaranta.

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Idan iyaye suka ƙi yi wa ɗansu rigakafi, likitan
makaranta dole ne ya ba jami'an lafiya rahoto.

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Idan aka yi shakka, hakan na iya haifar da
manyan tarar kudi da kuma korewa daga makaranta.

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Hukuncin shekarar 2019 ya ma ba da damar cire yara
da ba a yi musu rigakafi ba daga hannun iyayensu.

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A cikin hirar, likitan Hungary ya jaddada cewa wasu dalilai ma
na iya taka rawa wajen karuwar cututtukan yara, kamar matsalar

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duniya ta abinci da aka sarrafa sosai kuma ba na halitta ba.

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Duk da haka, an kuma bayyana a fili cewa cututtukan autoimmune,
kumburi, jinkirin ci gaban yara, autism da yawancin sabbin

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kamuwa da cuta sau da yawa suna faruwa bayan yin rigakafi.

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Masu fafutuka uku da aka yi hira da su suna gudanar da kamfen
domin a ɗora wa masu kera alluran rigakafi alhakin lahani da

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alluran ke haifarwa, da kuma domin likitocin da
ke yi wa mutane alluran su cika wajibinsu na

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sanar da marasa lafiya game da illolin rigakafi.

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Bugu da ƙari, dole ne a gudanar da gwaje-gwajen matakin antijini
cikin gaggawa kafin a yi allurar ƙarin kariya da

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aka tsara, domin hana yawan garkuwar jiki da
haɗarin kamuwa da cutar autoimmune da ke biyo baya.

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Bugu da ƙari, bai kamata a ci gaba da hukunta
likitoci saboda bayar da takardun keɓewar allurar rigakafi

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ba, misali ta hanyar ɗaukar matakan shari'a a kansu.

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Gabaɗaya, a yi rigakafi ne kawai bisa ga son rai –
iyaye a Jamus ma suna buƙatar hakan domin su kare

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'ya'yansu daga illolin rigakafin mura da ake buƙata a nan.

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Wannan hira mai motsa rai tana nuna cewa ko a
Hungary – wadda ta zama mashahurin wurin zama ga

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'yan ƙaura – ba komai ke tafiya yadda ya kamata ba.

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Saboda illolin da ke ƙara bayyana daga allurar rigakafi – duba
kuma yawan rahotannin lahani da allurar rigakafin coronavirus ta

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jawo – da kuma ci gaba da mayar da dukkan rigakafi zuwa alluran
mRNA masu haɗari, buƙatar da aka bazu na cewa yin

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allurar rigakafi ya kasance zaɓi na son rai har yanzu
babbar matsala ce ga wasu daga cikin waɗanda abin ya shafa.

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Hira: Gabatar da abokan hirar

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Mai tsara tattaunawa (Dániel István): Sannu da yamma, ina maraba
da kowa da kowa, kuma baƙinmu su ne András, Angelika da Niki.

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Dr András Guseo: Ni ne Dr András Guseo, likitan jijiyoyi, likitan
kwakwalwa, mai bincike kan ƙwayoyin jijiyoyi,

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masanin haɗin hankali-jijiyoyi-garkuwar jiki, mai
koyar da darasin damuwa da likita mai bincike.

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A matsayina na memba na Akademiyar Kimiyya ta
Hungary, na kasance cikin bincike tsawon shekaru 65.

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Babban abin da nake mai da hankali a bincike shi
ne cututtukan autoimmunity, kuma kwanan nan autism

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a matsayin wani fanni na matsalolin autoimmunity.

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ni Angelika Mihalik ce, ni lauya ce.

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Na dawo ne aikin shari'a ne kawai watanni 18
da suka wuce – na taba barin aikin ne saboda

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ban so in zama lauya mai wakilci ko lauya ba.

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Shi ya sa na samu digiri a fassarar fasaha.
Na san Turanci kuma na yi karatun fassarar

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fasaha lokacin da na daina aikina na lauya.

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Tun daga shekarar 2019, ina fassara makalolin
likitanci da suka shafi COVID-19, alluran

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rigakafin COVID-19, da manyan bincike ga likitoci.

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Kuma yayin da na yi bincike, na ci karo da makaloli na ƙwararru
da matsaloli da suka shafi alluran rigakafi

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na gargajiya, kuma a lokacin ne na ga abin da
ke faruwa da alluran rigakafi na gargajiya.

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Ya kai ga wani da nake masa fassara ya aiko min da saƙo a
Messenger yana cewa muna buƙatar wani Kennedy ɗan Hungary

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, don haka na yanke shawarar komawa aiki a matsayin lauya.

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Ba na faɗin wannan ne saboda girman kai ba,
amma saboda wannan ne ainihin abin da ya jawo shi.

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Kuma Niki ma ta taka rawa wajen sa ni in gane cewa
akwai matsala, saboda alluran tilas sun haifar da illa.

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Niki ta nuna mini tsananin wannan babbar
matsala ta hanyar gayyatar ni zuwa wani biki na

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iyali a gidanta, inda baƙi da dama suka halarta.

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Kuma sun kawo yara masu autism guda hudu ko
biyar tare da su, sannan na ga tsananin matsalar.

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Waɗannan dalilai biyu sun sa ni komawa sana'ar lauya.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka muna buƙatar
wani Kennedy ɗan Hungary, a ce. Eh, Niki? Ci gaba.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Ni Nikoletta Kertész
ce, wadda aka fi sani da Niki Kertész.

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Ina da yara uku, dukansu ukun an
yi musu lahani ta alluran rigakafi.

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Mutumin mai shekaru 24 ya kamu da nakasar hankali sosai, yana da
ciwon epilepsy kuma an yi masa tiyatar kwakwalwa sakamakon haka.

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Daya daga cikin 'yan gemu na a aure na biyu ya daina
magana, ya kamu da nakasar hankali kuma ya zama mai autism bayan

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ya karɓi allurar rigakafin MMR a lokacin yana da watanni 15.

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Dan'uwansa na haihuwa yana da tsananin rashin
jituwa da abinci da kumburin hanji, amma shi

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ya tsira ba tare da samun matsalar hankali ba.

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Na bincika kuma na yi nazari kan dalilan, domin mutum ba zai iya
shiga kogi ɗaya sau biyu ba, kamar yadda wasu ke tunani, amma

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za ka iya shiga kogin autoimmunity sau da yawa yadda kake so.

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Don haka, a aikace, na lura cewa wani abu ba
daidai ba ne da 'yan mata biyu, sai na fara

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bincike, kuma zan gaya muku a nan abin da na gano.

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Shekaru goma da suka wuce, na kafa ƙungiyar Facebook
mai suna "Autism Never Again" tare da tsarin magani

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da na haɓaka bisa abinci da sauran hanyoyin magani.

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Mun taimaka wa dubban mutane a cikin ƙungiyar su rage
alamun autism da ADHD – har ma bayan iyakokin ƙungiyar.

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Wasu yara ma an janye musu ganewar autism.

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Alluran rigakafi na tilas a duk faɗin duniya

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin yara a Hungary suna samun
irin alluran rigakafi da ake yi, misali, a Afirka?

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Shin halayen yin rigakafi suna daidai a duk
faɗin duniya, ko kuwa akwai bambance-bambance?

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Dr András Guseo: Hanyoyin yin
rigakafi suna bambanta daga ƙasa zuwa ƙasa.

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A cikin kasashe 18 daga cikin 30 na Turai, ba a tilasta yin
rigakafi, ko kuma idan ana tilasta, to ana yin

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rigakafi guda ɗaya ko biyu kawai – musamman kan
cututtukan da ake ɗauka su ne mafi haɗari a wancan ƙasar.

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Duk sauran rigakafi na son rai ne.

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RIGIMAR SHARI'A: RASHIN ISAR DA BAYANAN GANGARNI GA IYAYE

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: To,
Angelika, ina da wata tambaya a gare ki:

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Idan iyaye suka kawo ɗansu don ganawar allurar rigakafi
– muna magana ne akan alluran rigakafi na tilas a nan –

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wane bayanai ne iyaye ke samu game da waɗannan alluran?

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Shin tambaya ce mai sarkakiya?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: A halin yanzu
muna da aƙalla shari'u 150 a kotu.

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Abokan cinikinmu galibi su ne yaran da aka cutar; su ne
masu ƙara, kuma mu kan shigar da ƙara a madadin yaran.

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Kuma mafi yawan su kansu sun ji rauni
sosai ko matsakaici daga allurar rigakafi.

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Ko kuma sun zo wurinmu saboda ɗan'uwansu ya ji rauni
mai tsanani ko ya mutu sakamakon allurar rigakafi.

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Kuma abin takaici, ba a koyar da likitoci
isasshen horo ko cikakken bayani a jami'o'i.

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Kwas-kwasan horo ba sa koyar da abubuwa game da alluran rigakafi
ko yadda suke aiki, sai dai suna ba da kididdiga ne

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kawai kan dalilin da ya sa alluran rigakafi suke da
kyau, wane alluran rigakafi ake da su, da sauransu.

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Don haka likitoci ba su da isasshen
sahihin bayani game da alluran rigakafi.

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Abin baƙin ciki. Kuma game da yadda alluran rigakafi ke aiki.

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Shi ya sa a fili ba a sanar da iyaye ba ma.

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TA YAYA AKE SANAR DA IYAYE? – DOKAR 1997 –
NAWA ALLURORI AKE DA SU? – ZUBAR DA ALLURA

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin iyaye suna karɓar takardar
bayanai lokacin da ake sa ran a yi wa 'ya'yansu rigakafi?

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To, wasiƙar bayani game da abin da zai faru da yaron?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Za ku karɓi
takardar A4 da ke bayanin dalilin yin rigakafi.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin kana samun hakan bayan yin rigakafi?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: A'a, kafin a yi rigakafi.
Wannan ne abin da yaron ke ɗauka gida tare da shi.

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Amma zan ambaci misali ɗaya mai
matuƙar muhimmanci, allurar rigakafin MMR .

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MMR na ɗauke da rubella, kuma rubella na yaduwa.

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Umarnin amfani sun nuna cewa yana
da haɗari ga mata masu juna biyu.

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Wannan misali ne na musamman sosai. Ba ya cikin takardar bayanai.

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Likitan makaranta ya tsara yaran a
layi, amma bai gaya musu komai ba.

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An kula da komai yanzu da aka ba iyaye wannan takardar bayani.

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Yaran suna tsaye a layi, bai tambayi
kowannensu ba: Shin mahaifiyarku tana dauke da

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ciki? Shin 'yar uwarku tana dauke da ciki?

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Wannan misali ne mai matuƙar takamaimai.

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Akwai wani takamaiman lamari na zubar da ciki bayan irin
wannan allurar rigakafi ga ɗan'uwan yaron da ba a haifa ba.

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To, wannan shi ne bangaren duhu, kamar yadda ka ce.

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Ba a ba mutane isasshen bayani.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin dokar Hungary
ta tanadi cewa dole ne a sanar da iyaye?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Haka ne. Mai tsara tattaunawa:
Wace doka ce wannan, kuma yaushe aka amince da ita?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Wannan shi ne Dokar Lafiya ta 1997.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma yanzu muna
rubuta 2025? Dr Angelika Mihalik: Haka ne.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Wannan shekaru da dama suka wuce yanzu! Kuma
babu wanda ya duba tun daga lokacin? Dr Angelika Mihalik: A'a.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma nawa ƙarin
alluran rigakafi aka yi tun daga shekarar 1997?

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Nikoletta Kertész: tun daga 97, ina tsammanin
watakila akwai goma ƙari. Tabbas akwai goma ƙari.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka akwai
kusan wasu alluran rigakafi guda 10 na tilas.

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Amma dokar daga shekarun 1990 ba a sake
duba ta ba. Nikoletta Kertész: Haka ne.

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KAMFE-KAMFE NA ALLURAR RIGA-KAƊA =
ALLURAR RIGA-KAƊA TA DOLAR A MAKARANTA

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Nikoletta Kertész: Aikin rigakafin yara kafin shiga makaranta ga
yara masu shekaru 0 zuwa 6 ana yin sa ne ta yadda iyaye kawai su

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kai 'ya'yansu ga likitan yara sau 12, wato
likitan yara na iyalinsu, wanda ke ba su

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gajeriyar bayanai sannan ya yi musu rigakafi a wurin.

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Mataki na gaba shi ne yin rigakafi a makaranta.

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Ana kiran su kamfen na rigakafi.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Menene kamfen na rigakafi?

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Nikoletta Kertész: Me ya sa ake kiran
wannan ra'ayi haka, tambaya ce mai kyau.

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A takaice, hakan na nufin cewa a makaranta ana
jagorantar yaran aji na musamman kamar tumaki zuwa ga

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likitan makaranta, farawa da duk yaran aji na shida, misali.

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Ajin 6a a darasi na farko, aji 6b a darasi na
biyu, aji 6c a darasi na uku. Sannan 7a, 7b, 7c.

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Kuma duk wannan a rana ɗaya, kamar kamfen na
talla ko na siyasa ko na talla, domin duk ɗalibai

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su sami wannan allurar rigakafi a lokaci guda.

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Shi ya sa a Hungary ake kuma kiran shi kamfen na rigakafi.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka wannan wajibi ne.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Wajibi ne, eh. Don haka akwai alluran rigakafi
da likitocin yara ke yi da kuma alluran rigakafi na makaranta

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da ake shirya a makaranta domin duk yara su kasance a wuri guda.

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Wannan yana sa ya zama mai sauƙi a yi wa kowa
allurar rigakafi a ranar nan, sannan ka gama.

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Ba dole ne iyaye su kai 'ya'yansu likita da kansu
ba, kuma ba dole ne hukumomi su duba daga baya wa

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aka yi masa allurar rigakafi kuma wa ba a yi masa ba.

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Takardar Bayani Kan Rigakafi

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: Nikoletta Kertész: Kowace magani da allurar
rigakafi suna da takardar bayani da ke zuwa tare da kunshin.

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Wannan takardar cikin kunshi, wadda aka haɗa a cikin
kunshin, ba ta daidai da wadda masana'anta ta fitar.

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Don haka, akwai takardar bayanin kunshi da mai kera
ya fitar, sannan kuma akwai wadda likita ke karɓa.

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Akwai shawarwari, wato gajeriyar bayanai da ya kamata su wadatar
ga iyaye, sannan akwai gajeriyar sakin layi da ake roƙon

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iyaye su sanya hannu a kai, wanda kawai ke bayyana, misali,
cewa allurar rigakafi na iya haifar da zazzabi da ja na fata.

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Wani lokaci, na ga suna rubuta cewa zai iya haifar
da jiri ko amai. Amma hakan ba kasafai ke faruwa ba.

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Waɗannan su ne alamun anafilaksis .

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Amma na ga wannan ƙaramin ɓangare na bayanai ne kawai.

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To, wannan shi ne bayanan da mu iyaye muke
samu; wasu iyaye da dama sun tabbatar mini da haka.

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SABBIN CUTUTTUKA DA YAWA SABO DA YADEWAR
KWAYOYIN GARKUWA BAYAN ALLURA, MISALI UKRAINA

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: To... idan suka fara wannan kamfen na
rigakafi anan, idan suka yi rigakafi ga yara da yawa, shin za

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a sami wani abu kamar yaduwar rigakafi – wato, shin za a samu
sabbin kamuwa da cuta da yawa nan da nan bayan wannan rigakafi?

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Dr András Guseo: A ka'ida, hakan zai yiwu.

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Rayuwa ta ba da misali mai matuƙar ban sha'awa na
wannan, domin an gano a Ukraine cewa ƙimar

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allurar rigakafin measles ta kasance ƙasa da kashi 35%.

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WHO da UNICEF sun lura da wannan, kuma domin "taimakawa" Ukraine
shawo kan wannan "mummunan yanayi" na rashin cikakken rigakafin

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mutane, musamman yara, sun samar wa Ukraine alluran rigakafi
kuma sun gudanar da kamfen na rigakafi ta irin wannan hanya.

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Sakamako: Da kaso 35% na rufe rigakafi a baya, ana
samun kamuwa da mura 60 zuwa 70 a kowace shekara.

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Amma ba tun shekaru da yawa ba yanzu.

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Bayan an fara yakin yaki na rigakafi, an samu kamuwa da tarin
fuka-fuka 12,000 cikin watanni biyu, daga ciki

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9,000 sun buƙaci a kwantar da su a asibiti, kuma
1,600 sun haifar da tarin fuka-fuka mai tsanani.

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Don haka wannan yana nuna abin da muka tattauna a baya, cewa
mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi na iya yada kamuwa da cuta.

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GWAJIN MATAKIN ANTIBODI DA AKA RASA DA HYPERIMMUNITY

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Dr. András Guseo: Don haka babu kamuwa da cutar dundumba a
Ukraine, amma da suka fara yin rigakafi da

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allurar kai tsaye, mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi sun
yada cutar kuma aka samu mummunan barkewar cutar.

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Don haka wannan babbar matsala ce.

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Abu na gaba kuma shi ne cewa waɗannan kamfen ɗin rigakafi ba
kawai ba sa la'akari da ko akwai mutum mai juna biyu a

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cikin iyali ba, har ma ba sa la'akari da ko mutumin da za
a yi masa rigakafi tuni yana da antibodi na rigakafi X.

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Wato, adadin antijini da za a iya auna, matakin antijini.

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Dr András Guseo: Saboda idan kana da isasshen
matakin antibodi, ba ka buƙatar allurar rigakafi.

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Haka ake rubuta a cikin takardar bayani na
kunshin. Eh. Amma ba a taba bincika hakan ba.

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Kuma a wasu lokuta da suka buƙaci tsoma bakin doka, an
auna matakan antibodi, kuma sun kasance matuƙar yawa.

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Idan ka yi amfani da allurar rigakafin tarin fuka a wannan
matakin da ya yi matuƙar girma, za ka haifar da ƙarfi fiye da

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kima na garkuwar jiki, kuma rashin amfanin wannan
ƙarfi fiye da kima shi ne yana samar da yanayi mai ba da

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dama ga cututtukan garkuwar jiki da ke kai hari ga jiki.

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Kuma idan tsarin garkuwar jiki ya yi nauyi fiye da kima, wato an
yi masa ƙarfafawa fiye da kima, ana iya yaudare shi cikin sauƙi.

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Duk kamuwa da cutar tarin fuka-fuka da allurar rigakafi suna sa
jiki ya samar da antibodi kan furotin na

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asali na myelin a cikin kwakwalwa, kuma daga
wannan lokaci jiki yana cikin yanayin autoimmune.

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Wannan ba yana nufin zai kamu da rashin lafiya
nan da nan ba – zai iya kasancewa shekara ɗaya,

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biyu, biyar, goma ko goma sha biyar daga baya.

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Domin a lokacin da tsarin garkuwar jiki ya sami wani ƙarin
ƙarfafawa irin wannan, ko ta hanyar allurar rigakafi, wani kamuwa

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da ƙwayar cuta, wasu abubuwan waje, damuwa
da sauransu, tsarin garkuwar jiki zai

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kaddamar da hari na autoimmune kan tsarin jijiyoyi.

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ALHAKIN MASU KERA, ANTENNA NA ALUMINIUM

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Dr András Guseo: Tun bayan wucewar Dokar 1986, babu wajibi
ga mai kera maganin rigakafi ya yi gwaji yadda ya kamata.

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Adalci, ba a san wanda ke gwaji ba a bangarori biyu, an yi amfani
da maganin kwaikwayo, bincike ne na cibiyoyi da dama, na tsawon

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shekaru biyu, kamar yadda ake buƙata ga duk
magunguna a wannan masana'antu, amma ba a taɓa

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gudanar da shi ga alluran rigakafi ba. Ko ga ɗaya ba.

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Ba sai ka duba nesa ba don samun misalai.

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Mafi kyawun misali shi ne annobar duniya ta baya-bayan nan.

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Allurar rigakafin da aka yi amfani da ita ta samu ne bayan
watanni kaɗan kacal tun bayan barkewar kamuwa da ƙwayar cutar,

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alhali a al'ada ana ɗaukar shekaru biyar
zuwa takwas kafin a gwada allurar rigakafi don

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tantance ko tana aiki yadda ya kamata ko a'a.

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Wannan abu ɗaya ne. Abu na gaba shi ne cewa ba su
gudanar da binciken placebo ba, don haka ba su

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kwatanta tasirin da maganin da ba shi da tasiri ba.

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Ba su yi hakan da kowanne daga cikin alluran rigakafi ba,
don haka ba mu san yadda alluran rigakafi suke tasiri ba.

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Mun san cewa akwai matsaloli, musamman wajen
yi wa mutum allurar rigakafi ta haɗe-haɗe .

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Akwai misalai da dama na haka, inda jariri mai watanni
biyu, uku ko huɗu ke karɓar allurai guda shida a lokaci guda.

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Kuma hakan bai haɗa dukkan alluran rigakafi da ke karewa daga
dukkan kwayoyin cuta da ke cikin wannan rigakafin haɗe-haɗe

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ba, domin waɗannan alluran rigakafi guda shida suna nufin
fiye da goma ko fiye da ashirin daga cikin kwayoyin cuta.

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Duk da haka, tsarin garkuwar jiki na
jariri mai watanni biyu bai haɓaka ba tukuna.

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Ya danganta da kariyar jiki ta uwa.
Kuma wannan kariyar jiki tana da rauni.

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Kuma yanzu tsarin garkuwar jikin yaron ya fara bunƙasa.

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Kuma muna turawa da babbar ƙara. Gaskiya abin mamaki ne.

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Wani matsala mafi girma kuma ita ce cewa kwakwalwar wannan
yaro ba ta girma ba tukuna; har yanzu tana ci gaba da girma.

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Kuma a cikin kwakwalwa akwai shingen
kariya, wato shingen jini-kwakwalwa.

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Saboda haka, abin da ya shiga cikin jini
ba zai iya shiga kwakwalwa kai tsaye ba.

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Duk da haka, wannan katanga mai kariya
ba ta haɓaka ba tukuna a cikin yara.

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Abin da aka ba yaro kuma ya shiga cikin jini,
haka yake shiga kwakwalwa ba tare da kariya ba.

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Matsalar ita ce cewa alluran rigakafi su ne
masu ƙarfafa garkuwar jiki masu rauni sosai.

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Domin su sa tsarin garkuwar jiki ya yi aiki da
gaske, dole ne a ƙara adjuvants , waɗanda ke

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sa tsarin garkuwar jiki ya fara aiki tun farko.

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Kuma wannan abin tallafi a cikin
alluran rigakafi shine aluminium.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Na yi tunanin
an haɗa shi a dukkan alluran rigakafi?

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Dr András Guseo: Alluran rigakafi sun saba
ƙunsar mercury, amma da sa'a an haramta hakan.

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Amma har yanzu akwai wasu; allurar rigakafin
hepatitis B har yanzu tana ɗauke da mercury.

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Allurar rigakafin mura na iya har yanzu ƙunsar mercury.

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Kuma wannan aluminium yana shiga cikin kwakwalwa ɗaya bayan ɗaya.

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Kuma aluminium ana motsa shi a cikin ƙwayoyin
jijiyoyi ta hanyar radiyon Wi-Fi ko na wayar salula.

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Zai kasance mai karɓarsu, antenarsu.

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Kuma hakan yana haifar da wani tasirin
lantarki mai ban mamaki a cikin kwakwalwa.

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Kwayoyin jijiyoyi a cikin kwakwalwa ma suna samar da
raƙuman lantarki, kuma dukkan kwayoyin a jikina suna

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jin waɗannan raƙuman, waɗanda ke ba kwayoyina kuzari.

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Idan na sanya wannan jiki a cikin filin lantarki da maganadisu
kuma na fallasa shi ga Wi-Fi – 50 Hz – da sauran radiyon wayar

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salula, to waɗannan suna shafar aikin lantarki na cikin jikina.

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Kuma idan ina da antena a cikin kwakwalwata, hakan zai yi babban
tasiri ga babban tsarin sarrafa ta, wato aikin kwayoyin halitta.

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HUNGARY – BA WANI KE DA ALHAKI GA LALACIN ALLURAR KARIYA

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: A Hungary, doka an tsara ta ne ta
yadda babu mashiƙi, babu likita, babu gwamnati da za su

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ɗauki alhakin kowace lahani da allurar rigakafi ta jawo.

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Sakamakon haka shi ne cewa idan babu
hukunci, babu wanda zai bi ƙa'idoji.

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Wannan doka ce ta dabi'a!

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Tun da babu likita, babu jiha, babu mai kera magani da
ke da alhaki a Hungary, likitan ba ya cika wajibinsa

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na sanar da majiyyaci game da tasirin allurar rigakafi.

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Ba ya yin aiki a matakin da ake buƙata
saboda bai koyi yadda ake yin hakan ba.

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Don haka muna fafutuka domin waɗanda abin ya shafa kuma suka zo
wurinmu, domin dole ne su wuce ta cikin wata jerin gwaje-gwaje.

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Bugu da ƙari, babu wanda za a iya ɗaukar
alhaki, don haka muna ci gaba da gaza sau da yawa.

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Amma muna yaƙi, ƙarar mu na ci gaba, kuma dole ne mu fara sabuwar
farawa sau da yawa don 'yantar da mutane daga allurar rigakafi.

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SHEKARA-SHEKARA NA ZABIN KANKA NA ALLURAR KARIYA

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Don haka zai
yi kyau idan abubuwa biyu suka faru:

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Da farko, abin da Jamhuriyar Amurka ke yaƙi a kai, da abin da
gwamnatin Kennedy, wato gwamnatin Trump, ke yaƙi a kai, shi

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ne kawo ƙarshen wannan rashin alhaki daga hannun masana'antun.

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Ya kamata a cimma wannan ma a Hungary, domin
waɗanda ke da alhaki su daina amsa wa kowa.

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Kuma likitan ya kamata a ɗauki alhaki.

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Domin za su yi ƙoƙarin wayar da kan mutane
game da haɗarin allurar rigakafi ne kawai idan za

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a iya ɗaukar su alhaki kan lahani da suka yi.

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Kuma abu na gaba shi ne cewa da zarar an soke wannan ƙa'ida –
wadda ke cewa ba likita ba gwamnati ke da alhakin lahani

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da alluran rigakafi suka haifar – za a kuma mika bayani
game da illolin alluran rigakafi ga majiyyata da iyaye.

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Bugu da ƙari, da alluran rigakafi sun kasance
na zaɓi, ba za mu shiga wannan gwagwarmaya ba,

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inda a zahiri muke yaƙi don rayuwar 'ya'yanmu.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: To, likita dole ne ya yi
rantsuwa cewa zai warkar da kai ko ba zai yi maka lahani ba.

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Toh, mu duba hakan kaɗan:

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Don haka idan likita ya yi rantsuwa a kan wannan, amma bai watsa
bayanai game da rigakafi ba, har ma bai yi

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gwaje-gwaje kafin ba don gano ko wannan yaro zai kamu da
rashin lafiya daga baya, to ya yi rantsuwa a banza.

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A gaskiya, ya karya rantsuwar sa.

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ba mu da irin wannan
lamari guda ɗaya kawai – muna da da yawa!

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Ba kawai ƙara ba. Muna ƙara likitoci ne musamman.

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Domin, ko da ba a aiwatar da shi ta
wannan hanya ba, shi ne doka a Hungary:

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Idan likita ya rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaro
allurar rigakafi ba saboda dalilai na lafiya,

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to hukumomi su sassauta masa buƙatar yin rigakafi.

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Muna da lokuta inda likitoci biyu da likitoci huɗu
suka rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi ba.

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Iyaye sun kai wannan ga hukumomi, kuma hukumomi sun
nada wani mai ba da shawara kan rigakafi – wata

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hukuma ce a Hungary – wanda bai taɓa ganin yaron ba a da.

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Likitan magani guda biyu, ko ma likitoci huɗu da ke maganin
yaron, wasu daga cikinsu na tsawon shekaru takwas,

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wasu kuma na tsawon shekaru huɗu, kuma sun rubuta a
shafuka da dama cewa yaron zai mutu saboda allurar rigakafi.

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Mashawarcin rigakafi bai ma kalle yaron ba, kawai yana karanta
sakamakon – ina magana ne game da wasu takamaiman lokuta – sannan

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ya rubuta a layuka huɗu cewa za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma waɗannan likitoci ne?

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Likitoci,
likitoci, likitoci da aka horar na musamman.

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Game da wata tambayar: Muna kuma ɗaukar matakin shari'a kan
likitocin da ba su bayar da izinin tsallake allurar rigakafi

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ga yara da suka cancanci a tsallake musu wannan allurar ba.

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Kuma likita ya rubuta shi. Muna da
irin waɗannan korafe-korafe da dama.

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Kuma likitoci da dama daban-daban sun rubuta cewa idan ana
maganar alluran rigakafi na tilas, ba sa la'akari da

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jin daɗin yaron, sai dai da muradin jama'a, kuma dole ne
a yi wa wannan yaron rigakafi domin cimma kariyar gari.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma daga nan ba shi
da muhimmanci abin da yaron yake da shi.

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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ana kuma yin haka idan akwai matuƙar
haɗari cewa yaron zai mutu daga wannan allurar rigakafi.

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Kuma za mu saka hakan a cikin bayanin
ƙara. Muna da irin waɗannan shari'o'i da dama.

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Yawan yara masu autism na ƙaruwa

292
00:28:05,391 --> 00:28:10,386
Dr András Guseo: Cibiyar Kula da Cututtuka ta Amurka
(CDC) ta wallafa bayanan ban mamaki da ke nuna yawan

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jariran da aka haifa a Amurka da za su kasance masu autism.

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00:28:18,211 --> 00:28:23,781
A shekarar 2020, adadin ya kasance 158.

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Idan muka koma shekaru 15 da suka wuce,
adadin ya kasance ɗaya cikin dubu goma.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin 158 ne daga cikin 10,000?

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Dr András Guseo: A'a, ɗaya daga cikin
sabbin haihuwa 158 zai kasance mai autism.

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Kuma a tsawon shekaru, adadin da aka
bayyana ya kasance yana raguwa, kuma a bara an

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samu yaro ɗaya mai autism cikin haihuwa tara.

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Yanayin yana raguwa sosai – ma'ana yawan yara
marasa autism a cikin sababbin haihuwa yana ƙara raguwa.

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Kuma idan ban yi kuskure ba, za a
kai matakin asali cikin shekaru biyu.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa kowanne yaro da aka
haifa a Amurka na iya kasancewa mai autism.

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Dr. András Guseo: Wannan abin ban
tsoro ne. Na kalli shi a gida, a ƙasarmu.

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Kuma ina so in nuna muku sabbin bayanai a wannan jadawalin.

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Yana nuna adadin yara masu autism masu shekaru
2 zuwa 18 da makarantu a fadin ƙasar suka

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ruwaito a ƙarshen watan Satumba daga 2018 zuwa 2024.

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00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:42,435
Kuma yana nuna cewa ƙaruwa ta yi matuƙar
muhimmanci, ta kai kashi 121 cikin ɗari cikin shekaru bakwai.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa adadin yara masu autism a
makarantu yana ƙaruwa da matsakaicin kashi 17% a kowace shekara.

309
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Nikoletta Kertész: Sai kuma aka gabatar da allurar rigakafin
chickenpox, da allurar rigakafin pneumococcal, wanda a da ake yi

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masa allurar rigakafi daga nau'ikan
pneumococcal guda 13 daban-daban – yanzu kuwa akwai

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nau'ikan cuta 20. Kuma adadin na ƙaruwa ne.

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Yanzu muna tambayar kanmu da gaske yadda zai yiwu
akwai yara da har yanzu ba sa iya magana a shekaru uku.

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To yaya zai yiwu cewa tarin yara ke shiga makarantar rassa a
shekaru uku ba tare da iya magana ko amfani da bayan gida ba?

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Kuma waɗannan yara suna zuwa gare mu da yawa a
duk faɗin ƙasar – ba kawai gare mu kaɗai ba.

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Za a saka su cikin ayyukan tallafi da ake da su.

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To, babu wata ƙasa a duniya da ke da cibiyoyin
tallafi masu zaman kansu, cibiyoyin jiyya masu zaman

317
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kansu da malamai na buƙatun musamman fiye da na Hungary.

318
00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:53,073
Wannan yana nuna babban buƙata, kuma ba za mu iya
yin alƙawura ba – babu ɗayan waɗannan cibiyoyin da

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zai iya yin ƙarin alƙawura. Buƙatun sun yi yawa sosai.

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Wannan annoba ce, ba wai kawai dangane da yawan yaran da ke
da autism ba, har ma saboda halayen waɗannan yara sun

321
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bambanta ƙwarai da halayen lafiya. Ba za a iya musanta hakan ba.

322
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Dr Angelika Mihalik: Shi ya sa muka dade muna sanar da
cewa zaman sauraron shari'a a kotu na bude wa jama'a,

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domin mutane su halarci zaman sauraron shari'a a kotu.

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Muna koyaushe gayyatar mutane idan abokin ciniki ya yarda.

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Wani malamin makarantar sakandare ya taɓa shiga irin wannan
shari'ar kotu saboda ya lura cewa daga cikin yara 47 da suka

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yi jarabawar shiga makarantar sakandare, 20 daga cikinsu
suna da buƙatun ilimi na musamman – mafi yawansu masu autism ne.

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00:31:38,972 --> 00:31:46,387
Ba mu ba ne, wani ƙungiya ce ta tambayi ƙasashen
membobin Tarayyar Turai – ƙasashen da ba a tilasta yin

328
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rigakafi – dalilin da ya sa ba a tilasta yin rigakafi.

329
00:31:53,288 --> 00:32:02,658
Kuma sun amsa game da ma'aikatun da muka riga mun
sani, wato saboda ba su da bisa ga kundin tsarin mulki.

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Dalilin da ya sa tilastawa allurar rigakafi ya saba wa kundin
tsarin mulki – kuma a ko'ina cikin duniya hakan ba bisa ka'ida

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ba ne – shi ne cewa za ka iya mutuwa daga allurar rigakafi.

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Wannan gaskiya ce. Babu yadda za a musanta shi.

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00:32:20,964 --> 00:32:30,203
Za ka iya mutuwa daga ƙwayar aspirin; za ka iya fuskantar
anaphylaxis daga komai. Don haka za ka iya mutuwa daga gare ta.

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Ba bisa ga kundin tsarin mulki ba ne a
tilasta wani abu da zai iya kashe ka.

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Yana take hakkin rayuwa.

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A gefe guda, mutane ba su san komai game da shi ba saboda ana
sayar da shi a matsayin wajibci kuma alluran rigakafi kawai za

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su iya zama masu kyau kuma ba za ka iya mutuwa daga gare su ba.

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Baya ga canjin doka, dole ne a
gudanar da kamfen na wayar da kan mutane.

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Dole ne a soke tilastawar yin rigakafi kuma a sanar da mutane
game da fa'idodi, rashin fa'idodi, haɗarori da sauransu na

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rigakafi – ta bakin likitoci, kafofin watsa labarai da gwamnati.

341
00:33:20,476 --> 00:33:27,628
Dr András Guseo: Kuma, idan ka kalli yau, CDC, wadda muka ambata
sau da dama, Cibiyar Kula da Cututtuka ta

342
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Amurka, wato hukumar Amurka ta binciken yaduwar
cututtuka, ita ma ita ce mai rarraba alluran rigakafi.

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Don haka yana da alaƙa kai tsaye da masu kera alluran
rigakafi, kuma yana cikin muradinsu su kawo yawan

344
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alluran rigakafi da zai yiwu kasuwa. Wannan abu ne a bayyane.

345
00:33:45,196 --> 00:33:52,827
Babban matsalar ita ce cewa lokacin da na fara aikina shekaru 60
da suka wuce kuma na yi jarrabawar ƙwarewa a fannin

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jijiyoyin jiki da kwakwalwa, an riga an san ra'ayin
autoimmunity, amma ba a danganta shi da cututtuka ba.

347
00:34:00,144 --> 00:34:04,321
Ban taɓa jin labarin autism ba, kuma
ba mu taɓa koyo komai game da shi ba.

348
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A yau, duka nau'ikan cututtuka biyu suna ƙaruwa.

349
00:34:07,455 --> 00:34:13,589
To, a nan za ka ga ƙaruwa, kuma a yau za mu
iya magana game da annoba, domin babu wata

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iyali da ba ta da cutar autoimmune a cikin idonta.

351
00:34:17,582 --> 00:34:25,789
Babu wata iyali da ba ta da yaro mai autism ko
yaro mai matsalolin hali da ke zaune a idonta.

352
00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:32,978
Babban tsarin ba ya yarda da kowace sabani

353
00:34:32,978 --> 00:34:38,348
Dr András Guseo: Wani muhimmin batu da nake son
jaddada shi ne babu wani bincike na hukuma kan

354
00:34:38,348 --> 00:34:43,161
alluran rigakafi da ke nazarin tasirinsu na dogon lokaci.

355
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,708
Me ke faruwa ga mutanen da aka yi
musu rigakafi bayan shekaru 10, 20, 30?

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A Amurka, akwai wani bincike mai suna VAERS ,
wanda ya yi nazari kan mutane 35,000 da aka yi

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musu rigakafi da wadanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba.

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An gano cewa waɗanda aka yi musu rigakafi sun fi rashin lafiya
sosai, sun sami ƙarin tabbacin cututtuka, sun fi zuwa

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ga likita fiye da waɗanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba,
yayin da waɗanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba suka fi lafiya.

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Amma mutane ba sa son yin magana a kai, shi ya sa a zahiri
babu wata bayanai a kai, kuma wannan shi ne babbar matsala:

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Kimiyya a yau tana da cikakken iko kan wallafe-wallafen
kimiyya, har idan wani ya so ya rubuta wani abu da bai

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yi daidai da ra'ayin gama gari ba, ba za a buga shi ba.

363
00:35:47,382 --> 00:35:52,705
Dr Angelika Mihalik: Kuma wani abu mai matuƙar muhimmanci da
András ya faɗa, domin akwai likitoci, ko da

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kaɗan ne, waɗanda suka yi ƙarfin hali su
rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi ba.

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Kuma hukumar kiwon lafiya ta jama'a tana ɗaukar matakin
shari'a kan waɗannan likitoci saboda sun rubuta hakan.

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00:36:07,664 --> 00:36:10,384
Tabbas, ba a faɗa shi haka ba.

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Wasu daga cikin likitocin da abin ya shafa kawai suna
karɓar kiran waya da ke gaya musu kada su sake yin hakan.

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00:36:16,678 --> 00:36:24,504
A kan wasu, ana kaddamar da
shari'ar hukuma bisa dalilai daban-daban.

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Kuma domin mutane su sani dokokin: idan hukumomin lafiya sun gano
keta doka – kuma wannan ya shafi mutane masu zaman kansu har ma

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iyaye da ba su yi wa 'ya'yansu rigakafi ba – ana iya
tarar su tsakanin 30,000 da miliyan 5 na forint , kuma

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ana iya maimaita hakan sau da yawa ga kowace keta doka.

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00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:58,952
Saboda haka, mafi yawan likitoci za su iya tsammanin ramuwar
gayya ko da sun amince ko sun ba da rahoton wani illa ta baki.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin hakan zai canza? Shin abin
da muke tattaunawa a kai zai canza? Ka shiga cikin

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wannan lamari na tsawon shekaru da dama, ko ba haka ba?

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00:37:08,889 --> 00:37:12,701
Dr. András Guseo: Muna fatan wani abu zai canza. Mun yi ƙoƙari.

376
00:37:12,701 --> 00:37:20,126
Kusan watanni shida da suka wuce, mun gayyaci manyan
wakilan wannan sana'a zuwa wani taro don tattauna

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00:37:20,126 --> 00:37:25,065
wannan batu, don jin ra'ayoyinsu da gabatar da matsayarmu.

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00:37:25,065 --> 00:37:27,180
Amma ya kasance kamar labulen ƙarfe:

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00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:33,654
Babu wanda ya zo, kuma daga baya, a taron
manema labarai da muka gayyaci 'yan jarida

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arba'in, labulen ƙarfe iri ɗaya ya biyo baya.

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00:37:37,457 --> 00:37:40,943
Don haka babu wata tattaunawa.

382
00:37:40,943 --> 00:37:45,099
To, ta yaya za a samu canji?

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00:37:45,099 --> 00:37:50,398
Dr Angelika Mihalik: To, András ya
ce babu wanda ya karɓi gayyatar.

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Suna tilasta yin rigakafi kuma... Hungary
ita ce kadai ƙasar a duniya inda irin wannan

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00:37:59,912 --> 00:38:06,353
tsoratarwar rigakafi take. Na duba wannan.

386
00:38:06,353 --> 00:38:11,642
An ba da tallafi ga yaro ɗaya kawai a ƙaramar gunduma.

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00:38:11,642 --> 00:38:18,743
Muna fafutuka, kuma mun kai ga wani mataki inda a kotu, a
shari'a, bayan mun sha kashi a wata shari'a, muna

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jin kamar muna rasa dukkan shari'unmu. Duk da
haka, akwai hujjojin da muke da su don goyon baya.

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Alƙali, wanda tuni yake jin nadama, ya ce babu matsala, za
mu iya sake gabatar da buƙatar keɓewa daga allurar rigakafi.

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00:38:33,543 --> 00:38:35,683
Kuma komai ya fara sake farawa.

391
00:38:35,683 --> 00:38:38,316
Wannan ba ra'ayin alkalin guda ɗaya
kawai ba ne, har ma na alkalai da dama.

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00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:41,826
Don haka muna sake farawa da
tsare-tsaren sau da yawa, sau da yawa.

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00:38:41,826 --> 00:38:46,740
Ana kiyaye wasu yara suna rayuwa ta wannan hanya.

394
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:55,284
An tsara dukkan tsarin shari'a ne ta yadda a aikace sai muka
ƙirƙiri gibi a doka – wani irin na'urar motsi madawwami ce.

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Idan ba za mu iya samun a ɗauke wa yaron tilas na
allurar rigakafi ba, muna so aƙalla mu ci gaba da aiwatar da

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tsarin neman ɗauke tilas har tsawon lokacin da zai yiwu.

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00:39:03,824 --> 00:39:10,608
Domin muddin wannan yana ci gaba, ba za su iya sanya
mana tara ko ɗaukar yaron mu yi masa allurar rigakafi ba.

398
00:39:10,608 --> 00:39:13,839
Shi ya sa muke ci gaba da maimaitawa.

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00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:22,666
Kuma akwai wani abu mai muhimmanci da za a
faɗa game da matakan da aka ɗauka a kanmu.

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00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:26,064
Mu lauyoyi ne uku da muke magance waɗannan shari'o'in.

401
00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:33,248
Kuma ana lakabtar da mu duka uku a matsayin masu adawa da alluran
rigakafi, kuma ana ikirarin cewa mu barazana ne ga al'umma.

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00:39:33,248 --> 00:39:38,677
Suna kaddamar da matakan ladabtarwa a kanmu – kuma
idan muka rasa mambobinmu na Kungiyar Lauyoyi

403
00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:42,968
sakamakon haka, ba za a sake ba mu izinin yin aikin lauya ba.

404
00:39:42,968 --> 00:39:45,761
An wanke ɗaya daga cikin abokan aikina daga wannan tuhuma.

405
00:39:45,761 --> 00:39:52,448
Ana shirin ɗaukar matakin ladabtarwa a kaina saboda ni mai
adawa da alluran rigakafi ne kuma ina da haɗari ga al'umma.

406
00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:58,471
Kuma ana gudanar da shari'ar
ladabtarwa kan wani abokin aiki ma. Don haka...

407
00:39:58,471 --> 00:40:01,538
Mai tsara tattaunawa: Idan na yi magana game
da irin waɗannan batutuwa a bidiyoyina,

408
00:40:01,538 --> 00:40:03,742
kullum nakan ce ba lallai ne ku yarda da ni ba.

409
00:40:03,742 --> 00:40:07,546
Ina cewa: ka duba ka kuma yanke naka hukunci.

410
00:40:07,546 --> 00:40:09,652
Wannan tambaya ce ta bayanai.

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00:40:09,652 --> 00:40:16,550
Kuma da irin wannan yawan bayanai, kamar yanzu a
wannan hira, mutane za su iya fara amfani da intanet.

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Mai tsara tattaunawa: Na gode ƙwarai!