WEBVTT 00:00.160 --> 00:07.062 A cikin Hungary, akwai matsalolin lafiya da dama tsakanin jarirai, yara, matasa har ma da manya. 00:07.062 --> 00:14.831 An tattauna yadda waɗannan raunuka suka shafi alluran rigakafi na baya a cikin hirar da aka yi da wani likita da wani lauya daga 00:14.831 --> 00:22.631 Hungary, da kuma wata uwa da abin ya shafa, wadda ke da yara uku da aka haifa cikin koshin lafiya amma yanzu suna da nakasa. 00:22.631 --> 00:30.713 A cewar bincikensu, adadin yara da aka gano suna da autism bayan yin rigakafi ya karu matuka a Hungary. 00:30.713 --> 00:37.091 Yawancin ƙoƙarin 'yan Hungary na kula da waɗannan yara, suna tallafa musu – ko kuma suna fafutuka tare da 00:37.091 --> 00:43.100 iyayensu domin tabbatar da cewa tilastawar yin rigakafi ga yara ba ta da wajibci a Hungary. 00:43.100 --> 00:47.690 Allurar tilas? Shin allurar rigakafi a gaskiya tilas ce a Hungary? 00:47.690 --> 00:56.315 A gaskiya, an fara tilasta yin rigakafi na farko a Hungary tun a shekarar 1876, sannan wasu 00:56.315 --> 01:00.928 kuma suka biyo baya a 1954 da shekarun 1960. 01:00.928 --> 01:08.029 A yau, ana yi wa duk jariran da aka haifa a Hungary rigakafin TB ba tare da an nemi izinin iyayensu ba. 01:08.029 --> 01:16.735 A shekarun 1997 da 1998, Ma'aikatar Lafiya ta Hungary ta kafa dokokin lafiya da suka 01:16.735 --> 01:21.748 gabatar da ƙarin rigakafi kan wasu cututtuka. 01:21.748 --> 01:31.885 A halin yanzu, ana yi wa yaran Hungary alluran rigakafi da yawa masu haɗari don rigakafin diphtheria, mura 01:31.885 --> 01:41.131 mai ƙararrawa, tetanus, polio da Haemophilus influenzae nau'in b a watanni 2, 3, 4 da 18. 01:41.131 --> 01:48.135 Bugu da ƙari, ana ba da alluran rigakafin pneumokok a watanni 2, 4 da 12 na shekara. 01:48.135 --> 01:55.786 An ba da rigakafin haɗin measles, mumps da rubella a lokacin cika watanni 15, kuma ana ba da 01:55.786 --> 02:00.735 rigakafin chickenpox ga jarirai masu watanni 13 da 16. 02:00.735 --> 02:08.739 Iyaye 'yan Hungary ba za su iya keɓe 'ya'yansu daga alluran rigakafin da ake buƙata ba, ko da kuwa akwai yaro a cikin iyali 02:08.739 --> 02:13.240 wanda ya sha mummunan lahani ga lafiyarsa bayan yin rigakafi. 02:13.240 --> 02:20.549 Lokacin da yara suka fara zuwa cibiyar kula da yara da makarantar rassa, jinya-jinyan yara da masu haihuwa da ke kula 02:20.549 --> 02:24.640 da su tun haihuwa suna da alhakin duba matsayin rigakafinsu. 02:24.640 --> 02:28.881 A makaranta, ana yin alluran rigakafi ga dukkan ajujuwan makaranta. 02:28.881 --> 02:35.159 Idan iyaye suka ƙi yi wa ɗansu rigakafi, likitan makaranta dole ne ya ba jami'an lafiya rahoto. 02:35.159 --> 02:40.480 Idan aka yi shakka, hakan na iya haifar da manyan tarar kudi da kuma korewa daga makaranta. 02:40.480 --> 02:47.765 Hukuncin shekarar 2019 ya ma ba da damar cire yara da ba a yi musu rigakafi ba daga hannun iyayensu. 02:47.765 --> 02:57.090 A cikin hirar, likitan Hungary ya jaddada cewa wasu dalilai ma na iya taka rawa wajen karuwar cututtukan yara, kamar matsalar 02:57.090 --> 03:02.187 duniya ta abinci da aka sarrafa sosai kuma ba na halitta ba. 03:02.187 --> 03:11.214 Duk da haka, an kuma bayyana a fili cewa cututtukan autoimmune, kumburi, jinkirin ci gaban yara, autism da yawancin sabbin 03:11.214 --> 03:16.240 kamuwa da cuta sau da yawa suna faruwa bayan yin rigakafi. 03:16.240 --> 03:22.654 Masu fafutuka uku da aka yi hira da su suna gudanar da kamfen domin a ɗora wa masu kera alluran rigakafi alhakin lahani da 03:22.654 --> 03:27.491 alluran ke haifarwa, da kuma domin likitocin da ke yi wa mutane alluran su cika wajibinsu na 03:27.491 --> 03:30.580 sanar da marasa lafiya game da illolin rigakafi. 03:30.580 --> 03:37.437 Bugu da ƙari, dole ne a gudanar da gwaje-gwajen matakin antijini cikin gaggawa kafin a yi allurar ƙarin kariya da 03:37.437 --> 03:43.840 aka tsara, domin hana yawan garkuwar jiki da haɗarin kamuwa da cutar autoimmune da ke biyo baya. 03:43.840 --> 03:50.663 Bugu da ƙari, bai kamata a ci gaba da hukunta likitoci saboda bayar da takardun keɓewar allurar rigakafi 03:50.663 --> 03:54.867 ba, misali ta hanyar ɗaukar matakan shari'a a kansu. 03:54.867 --> 04:02.679 Gabaɗaya, a yi rigakafi ne kawai bisa ga son rai – iyaye a Jamus ma suna buƙatar hakan domin su kare 04:02.679 --> 04:07.850 'ya'yansu daga illolin rigakafin mura da ake buƙata a nan. 04:07.850 --> 04:13.919 Wannan hira mai motsa rai tana nuna cewa ko a Hungary – wadda ta zama mashahurin wurin zama ga 04:13.919 --> 04:17.581 'yan ƙaura – ba komai ke tafiya yadda ya kamata ba. 04:17.581 --> 04:25.488 Saboda illolin da ke ƙara bayyana daga allurar rigakafi – duba kuma yawan rahotannin lahani da allurar rigakafin coronavirus ta 04:25.488 --> 04:32.524 jawo – da kuma ci gaba da mayar da dukkan rigakafi zuwa alluran mRNA masu haɗari, buƙatar da aka bazu na cewa yin 04:32.524 --> 04:40.582 allurar rigakafi ya kasance zaɓi na son rai har yanzu babbar matsala ce ga wasu daga cikin waɗanda abin ya shafa. 04:40.582 --> 04:43.604 Hira: Gabatar da abokan hirar 04:43.604 --> 04:51.801 Mai tsara tattaunawa (Dániel István): Sannu da yamma, ina maraba da kowa da kowa, kuma baƙinmu su ne András, Angelika da Niki. 04:51.801 --> 04:57.736 Dr András Guseo: Ni ne Dr András Guseo, likitan jijiyoyi, likitan kwakwalwa, mai bincike kan ƙwayoyin jijiyoyi, 04:57.736 --> 05:05.027 masanin haɗin hankali-jijiyoyi-garkuwar jiki, mai koyar da darasin damuwa da likita mai bincike. 05:05.027 --> 05:12.900 A matsayina na memba na Akademiyar Kimiyya ta Hungary, na kasance cikin bincike tsawon shekaru 65. 05:12.900 --> 05:18.035 Babban abin da nake mai da hankali a bincike shi ne cututtukan autoimmunity, kuma kwanan nan autism 05:18.035 --> 05:22.128 a matsayin wani fanni na matsalolin autoimmunity. 05:28.457 --> 05:32.138 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ni Angelika Mihalik ce, ni lauya ce. 05:32.138 --> 05:37.941 Na dawo ne aikin shari'a ne kawai watanni 18 da suka wuce – na taba barin aikin ne saboda 05:37.941 --> 05:41.952 ban so in zama lauya mai wakilci ko lauya ba. 05:41.952 --> 05:48.145 Shi ya sa na samu digiri a fassarar fasaha. Na san Turanci kuma na yi karatun fassarar 05:48.145 --> 05:52.290 fasaha lokacin da na daina aikina na lauya. 05:52.290 --> 05:58.008 Tun daga shekarar 2019, ina fassara makalolin likitanci da suka shafi COVID-19, alluran 05:58.008 --> 06:02.942 rigakafin COVID-19, da manyan bincike ga likitoci. 06:02.942 --> 06:10.797 Kuma yayin da na yi bincike, na ci karo da makaloli na ƙwararru da matsaloli da suka shafi alluran rigakafi 06:10.797 --> 06:18.904 na gargajiya, kuma a lokacin ne na ga abin da ke faruwa da alluran rigakafi na gargajiya. 06:21.341 --> 06:28.975 Ya kai ga wani da nake masa fassara ya aiko min da saƙo a Messenger yana cewa muna buƙatar wani Kennedy ɗan Hungary 06:28.975 --> 06:33.516 , don haka na yanke shawarar komawa aiki a matsayin lauya. 06:33.516 --> 06:38.036 Ba na faɗin wannan ne saboda girman kai ba, amma saboda wannan ne ainihin abin da ya jawo shi. 06:38.036 --> 06:45.300 Kuma Niki ma ta taka rawa wajen sa ni in gane cewa akwai matsala, saboda alluran tilas sun haifar da illa. 06:45.300 --> 06:50.821 Niki ta nuna mini tsananin wannan babbar matsala ta hanyar gayyatar ni zuwa wani biki na 06:50.821 --> 06:54.207 iyali a gidanta, inda baƙi da dama suka halarta. 06:54.207 --> 07:00.820 Kuma sun kawo yara masu autism guda hudu ko biyar tare da su, sannan na ga tsananin matsalar. 07:00.820 --> 07:05.900 Waɗannan dalilai biyu sun sa ni komawa sana'ar lauya. 07:05.900 --> 07:10.774 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka muna buƙatar wani Kennedy ɗan Hungary, a ce. Eh, Niki? Ci gaba. 07:10.774 --> 07:14.860 Nikoletta Kertész: Ni Nikoletta Kertész ce, wadda aka fi sani da Niki Kertész. 07:14.860 --> 07:18.820 Ina da yara uku, dukansu ukun an yi musu lahani ta alluran rigakafi. 07:18.820 --> 07:27.227 Mutumin mai shekaru 24 ya kamu da nakasar hankali sosai, yana da ciwon epilepsy kuma an yi masa tiyatar kwakwalwa sakamakon haka. 07:27.227 --> 07:35.080 Daya daga cikin 'yan gemu na a aure na biyu ya daina magana, ya kamu da nakasar hankali kuma ya zama mai autism bayan 07:35.080 --> 07:39.705 ya karɓi allurar rigakafin MMR a lokacin yana da watanni 15. 07:39.705 --> 07:46.048 Dan'uwansa na haihuwa yana da tsananin rashin jituwa da abinci da kumburin hanji, amma shi 07:46.048 --> 07:49.556 ya tsira ba tare da samun matsalar hankali ba. 07:49.556 --> 07:55.743 Na bincika kuma na yi nazari kan dalilan, domin mutum ba zai iya shiga kogi ɗaya sau biyu ba, kamar yadda wasu ke tunani, amma 07:55.743 --> 07:59.219 za ka iya shiga kogin autoimmunity sau da yawa yadda kake so. 07:59.219 --> 08:05.762 Don haka, a aikace, na lura cewa wani abu ba daidai ba ne da 'yan mata biyu, sai na fara 08:05.762 --> 08:10.760 bincike, kuma zan gaya muku a nan abin da na gano. 08:10.760 --> 08:18.474 Shekaru goma da suka wuce, na kafa ƙungiyar Facebook mai suna "Autism Never Again" tare da tsarin magani 08:18.474 --> 08:22.706 da na haɓaka bisa abinci da sauran hanyoyin magani. 08:22.706 --> 08:34.978 Mun taimaka wa dubban mutane a cikin ƙungiyar su rage alamun autism da ADHD – har ma bayan iyakokin ƙungiyar. 08:34.978 --> 08:42.415 Wasu yara ma an janye musu ganewar autism. 08:42.415 --> 08:46.461 Alluran rigakafi na tilas a duk faɗin duniya 08:46.461 --> 08:51.455 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin yara a Hungary suna samun irin alluran rigakafi da ake yi, misali, a Afirka? 08:51.455 --> 08:57.594 Shin halayen yin rigakafi suna daidai a duk faɗin duniya, ko kuwa akwai bambance-bambance? 08:57.594 --> 09:01.178 Dr András Guseo: Hanyoyin yin rigakafi suna bambanta daga ƙasa zuwa ƙasa. 09:01.178 --> 09:08.333 A cikin kasashe 18 daga cikin 30 na Turai, ba a tilasta yin rigakafi, ko kuma idan ana tilasta, to ana yin 09:08.333 --> 09:16.126 rigakafi guda ɗaya ko biyu kawai – musamman kan cututtukan da ake ɗauka su ne mafi haɗari a wancan ƙasar. 09:16.126 --> 09:18.875 Duk sauran rigakafi na son rai ne. 09:18.875 --> 09:23.148 RIGIMAR SHARI'A: RASHIN ISAR DA BAYANAN GANGARNI GA IYAYE 09:23.148 --> 09:27.006 Mai tsara tattaunawa: To, Angelika, ina da wata tambaya a gare ki: 09:27.006 --> 09:34.965 Idan iyaye suka kawo ɗansu don ganawar allurar rigakafi – muna magana ne akan alluran rigakafi na tilas a nan – 09:34.965 --> 09:39.298 wane bayanai ne iyaye ke samu game da waɗannan alluran? 09:39.298 --> 09:42.259 Shin tambaya ce mai sarkakiya? 09:48.914 --> 09:53.403 Dr Angelika Mihalik: A halin yanzu muna da aƙalla shari'u 150 a kotu. 09:53.403 --> 10:02.008 Abokan cinikinmu galibi su ne yaran da aka cutar; su ne masu ƙara, kuma mu kan shigar da ƙara a madadin yaran. 10:02.008 --> 10:08.632 Kuma mafi yawan su kansu sun ji rauni sosai ko matsakaici daga allurar rigakafi. 10:08.632 --> 10:15.608 Ko kuma sun zo wurinmu saboda ɗan'uwansu ya ji rauni mai tsanani ko ya mutu sakamakon allurar rigakafi. 10:18.203 --> 10:23.997 Kuma abin takaici, ba a koyar da likitoci isasshen horo ko cikakken bayani a jami'o'i. 10:23.997 --> 10:29.391 Kwas-kwasan horo ba sa koyar da abubuwa game da alluran rigakafi ko yadda suke aiki, sai dai suna ba da kididdiga ne 10:29.391 --> 10:36.383 kawai kan dalilin da ya sa alluran rigakafi suke da kyau, wane alluran rigakafi ake da su, da sauransu. 10:36.383 --> 10:41.145 Don haka likitoci ba su da isasshen sahihin bayani game da alluran rigakafi. 10:41.145 --> 10:45.135 Abin baƙin ciki. Kuma game da yadda alluran rigakafi ke aiki. 10:45.135 --> 10:48.640 Shi ya sa a fili ba a sanar da iyaye ba ma. 10:48.640 --> 10:53.881 TA YAYA AKE SANAR DA IYAYE? – DOKAR 1997 – NAWA ALLURORI AKE DA SU? – ZUBAR DA ALLURA 10:53.881 --> 10:57.060 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin iyaye suna karɓar takardar bayanai lokacin da ake sa ran a yi wa 'ya'yansu rigakafi? 10:57.060 --> 11:00.913 To, wasiƙar bayani game da abin da zai faru da yaron? 11:00.913 --> 11:04.469 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Za ku karɓi takardar A4 da ke bayanin dalilin yin rigakafi. 11:04.469 --> 11:06.040 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin kana samun hakan bayan yin rigakafi? 11:06.040 --> 11:10.157 Dr Angelika Mihalik: A'a, kafin a yi rigakafi. Wannan ne abin da yaron ke ɗauka gida tare da shi. 11:10.157 --> 11:13.810 Amma zan ambaci misali ɗaya mai matuƙar muhimmanci, allurar rigakafin MMR . 11:13.810 --> 11:16.677 MMR na ɗauke da rubella, kuma rubella na yaduwa. 11:16.677 --> 11:20.032 Umarnin amfani sun nuna cewa yana da haɗari ga mata masu juna biyu. 11:20.032 --> 11:24.618 Wannan misali ne na musamman sosai. Ba ya cikin takardar bayanai. 11:24.618 --> 11:29.278 Likitan makaranta ya tsara yaran a layi, amma bai gaya musu komai ba. 11:29.278 --> 11:33.872 An kula da komai yanzu da aka ba iyaye wannan takardar bayani. 11:33.872 --> 11:37.408 Yaran suna tsaye a layi, bai tambayi kowannensu ba: Shin mahaifiyarku tana dauke da 11:37.408 --> 11:39.961 ciki? Shin 'yar uwarku tana dauke da ciki? 11:39.961 --> 11:42.196 Wannan misali ne mai matuƙar takamaimai. 11:42.196 --> 11:48.379 Akwai wani takamaiman lamari na zubar da ciki bayan irin wannan allurar rigakafi ga ɗan'uwan yaron da ba a haifa ba. 11:48.379 --> 11:51.147 To, wannan shi ne bangaren duhu, kamar yadda ka ce. 11:51.147 --> 11:53.296 Ba a ba mutane isasshen bayani. 11:53.296 --> 11:59.653 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin dokar Hungary ta tanadi cewa dole ne a sanar da iyaye? 11:59.653 --> 12:03.449 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Haka ne. Mai tsara tattaunawa: Wace doka ce wannan, kuma yaushe aka amince da ita? 12:03.449 --> 12:06.290 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Wannan shi ne Dokar Lafiya ta 1997. 12:06.290 --> 12:09.336 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma yanzu muna rubuta 2025? Dr Angelika Mihalik: Haka ne. 12:09.336 --> 12:15.203 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Wannan shekaru da dama suka wuce yanzu! Kuma babu wanda ya duba tun daga lokacin? Dr Angelika Mihalik: A'a. 12:15.203 --> 12:19.297 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma nawa ƙarin alluran rigakafi aka yi tun daga shekarar 1997? 12:19.297 --> 12:26.294 Nikoletta Kertész: tun daga 97, ina tsammanin watakila akwai goma ƙari. Tabbas akwai goma ƙari. 12:26.294 --> 12:29.270 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka akwai kusan wasu alluran rigakafi guda 10 na tilas. 12:29.270 --> 12:35.413 Amma dokar daga shekarun 1990 ba a sake duba ta ba. Nikoletta Kertész: Haka ne. 12:35.413 --> 12:39.844 KAMFE-KAMFE NA ALLURAR RIGA-KAƊA = ALLURAR RIGA-KAƊA TA DOLAR A MAKARANTA 12:39.844 --> 12:49.302 Nikoletta Kertész: Aikin rigakafin yara kafin shiga makaranta ga yara masu shekaru 0 zuwa 6 ana yin sa ne ta yadda iyaye kawai su 12:49.302 --> 12:55.387 kai 'ya'yansu ga likitan yara sau 12, wato likitan yara na iyalinsu, wanda ke ba su 12:55.387 --> 13:00.208 gajeriyar bayanai sannan ya yi musu rigakafi a wurin. 13:00.208 --> 13:03.872 Mataki na gaba shi ne yin rigakafi a makaranta. 13:03.872 --> 13:08.040 Ana kiran su kamfen na rigakafi. 13:08.040 --> 13:10.886 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Menene kamfen na rigakafi? 13:10.886 --> 13:15.025 Nikoletta Kertész: Me ya sa ake kiran wannan ra'ayi haka, tambaya ce mai kyau. 13:15.025 --> 13:22.171 A takaice, hakan na nufin cewa a makaranta ana jagorantar yaran aji na musamman kamar tumaki zuwa ga 13:22.171 --> 13:26.706 likitan makaranta, farawa da duk yaran aji na shida, misali. 13:26.706 --> 13:36.587 Ajin 6a a darasi na farko, aji 6b a darasi na biyu, aji 6c a darasi na uku. Sannan 7a, 7b, 7c. 13:36.587 --> 13:44.179 Kuma duk wannan a rana ɗaya, kamar kamfen na talla ko na siyasa ko na talla, domin duk ɗalibai 13:44.179 --> 13:48.764 su sami wannan allurar rigakafi a lokaci guda. 13:48.764 --> 13:52.323 Shi ya sa a Hungary ake kuma kiran shi kamfen na rigakafi. 13:52.323 --> 13:55.712 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Don haka wannan wajibi ne. 13:55.712 --> 14:02.751 Nikoletta Kertész: Wajibi ne, eh. Don haka akwai alluran rigakafi da likitocin yara ke yi da kuma alluran rigakafi na makaranta 14:02.751 --> 14:06.595 da ake shirya a makaranta domin duk yara su kasance a wuri guda. 14:06.595 --> 14:11.068 Wannan yana sa ya zama mai sauƙi a yi wa kowa allurar rigakafi a ranar nan, sannan ka gama. 14:11.068 --> 14:15.720 Ba dole ne iyaye su kai 'ya'yansu likita da kansu ba, kuma ba dole ne hukumomi su duba daga baya wa 14:15.720 --> 14:20.338 aka yi masa allurar rigakafi kuma wa ba a yi masa ba. 14:20.338 --> 14:24.839 Takardar Bayani Kan Rigakafi 14:24.839 --> 14:30.358 : Nikoletta Kertész: Kowace magani da allurar rigakafi suna da takardar bayani da ke zuwa tare da kunshin. 14:30.358 --> 14:38.152 Wannan takardar cikin kunshi, wadda aka haɗa a cikin kunshin, ba ta daidai da wadda masana'anta ta fitar. 14:38.152 --> 14:47.153 Don haka, akwai takardar bayanin kunshi da mai kera ya fitar, sannan kuma akwai wadda likita ke karɓa. 14:47.153 --> 14:54.525 Akwai shawarwari, wato gajeriyar bayanai da ya kamata su wadatar ga iyaye, sannan akwai gajeriyar sakin layi da ake roƙon 14:54.525 --> 15:02.356 iyaye su sanya hannu a kai, wanda kawai ke bayyana, misali, cewa allurar rigakafi na iya haifar da zazzabi da ja na fata. 15:02.356 --> 15:08.238 Wani lokaci, na ga suna rubuta cewa zai iya haifar da jiri ko amai. Amma hakan ba kasafai ke faruwa ba. 15:08.238 --> 15:11.791 Waɗannan su ne alamun anafilaksis . 15:11.791 --> 15:15.165 Amma na ga wannan ƙaramin ɓangare na bayanai ne kawai. 15:15.165 --> 15:20.313 To, wannan shi ne bayanan da mu iyaye muke samu; wasu iyaye da dama sun tabbatar mini da haka. 15:20.313 --> 15:25.373 SABBIN CUTUTTUKA DA YAWA SABO DA YADEWAR KWAYOYIN GARKUWA BAYAN ALLURA, MISALI UKRAINA 15:25.373 --> 15:30.297 Mai tsara tattaunawa: To... idan suka fara wannan kamfen na rigakafi anan, idan suka yi rigakafi ga yara da yawa, shin za 15:30.297 --> 15:36.465 a sami wani abu kamar yaduwar rigakafi – wato, shin za a samu sabbin kamuwa da cuta da yawa nan da nan bayan wannan rigakafi? 15:36.465 --> 15:38.670 Dr András Guseo: A ka'ida, hakan zai yiwu. 15:38.670 --> 15:45.005 Rayuwa ta ba da misali mai matuƙar ban sha'awa na wannan, domin an gano a Ukraine cewa ƙimar 15:45.005 --> 15:49.876 allurar rigakafin measles ta kasance ƙasa da kashi 35%. 15:49.876 --> 15:59.930 WHO da UNICEF sun lura da wannan, kuma domin "taimakawa" Ukraine shawo kan wannan "mummunan yanayi" na rashin cikakken rigakafin 15:59.930 --> 16:11.012 mutane, musamman yara, sun samar wa Ukraine alluran rigakafi kuma sun gudanar da kamfen na rigakafi ta irin wannan hanya. 16:12.801 --> 16:22.019 Sakamako: Da kaso 35% na rufe rigakafi a baya, ana samun kamuwa da mura 60 zuwa 70 a kowace shekara. 16:22.019 --> 16:24.518 Amma ba tun shekaru da yawa ba yanzu. 16:24.518 --> 16:32.060 Bayan an fara yakin yaki na rigakafi, an samu kamuwa da tarin fuka-fuka 12,000 cikin watanni biyu, daga ciki 16:32.060 --> 16:39.513 9,000 sun buƙaci a kwantar da su a asibiti, kuma 1,600 sun haifar da tarin fuka-fuka mai tsanani. 16:39.513 --> 16:47.480 Don haka wannan yana nuna abin da muka tattauna a baya, cewa mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi na iya yada kamuwa da cuta. 16:47.480 --> 16:51.849 GWAJIN MATAKIN ANTIBODI DA AKA RASA DA HYPERIMMUNITY 16:51.849 --> 16:57.579 Dr. András Guseo: Don haka babu kamuwa da cutar dundumba a Ukraine, amma da suka fara yin rigakafi da 16:57.579 --> 17:03.825 allurar kai tsaye, mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi sun yada cutar kuma aka samu mummunan barkewar cutar. 17:03.825 --> 17:06.616 Don haka wannan babbar matsala ce. 17:06.616 --> 17:12.517 Abu na gaba kuma shi ne cewa waɗannan kamfen ɗin rigakafi ba kawai ba sa la'akari da ko akwai mutum mai juna biyu a 17:12.517 --> 17:18.867 cikin iyali ba, har ma ba sa la'akari da ko mutumin da za a yi masa rigakafi tuni yana da antibodi na rigakafi X. 17:18.867 --> 17:25.713 Wato, adadin antijini da za a iya auna, matakin antijini. 17:25.713 --> 17:30.080 Dr András Guseo: Saboda idan kana da isasshen matakin antibodi, ba ka buƙatar allurar rigakafi. 17:30.080 --> 17:34.716 Haka ake rubuta a cikin takardar bayani na kunshin. Eh. Amma ba a taba bincika hakan ba. 17:34.716 --> 17:44.004 Kuma a wasu lokuta da suka buƙaci tsoma bakin doka, an auna matakan antibodi, kuma sun kasance matuƙar yawa. 17:44.004 --> 17:50.072 Idan ka yi amfani da allurar rigakafin tarin fuka a wannan matakin da ya yi matuƙar girma, za ka haifar da ƙarfi fiye da 17:50.072 --> 17:55.082 kima na garkuwar jiki, kuma rashin amfanin wannan ƙarfi fiye da kima shi ne yana samar da yanayi mai ba da 17:55.082 --> 17:58.783 dama ga cututtukan garkuwar jiki da ke kai hari ga jiki. 17:58.783 --> 18:06.264 Kuma idan tsarin garkuwar jiki ya yi nauyi fiye da kima, wato an yi masa ƙarfafawa fiye da kima, ana iya yaudare shi cikin sauƙi. 18:06.264 --> 18:13.287 Duk kamuwa da cutar tarin fuka-fuka da allurar rigakafi suna sa jiki ya samar da antibodi kan furotin na 18:13.287 --> 18:20.007 asali na myelin a cikin kwakwalwa, kuma daga wannan lokaci jiki yana cikin yanayin autoimmune. 18:20.007 --> 18:24.877 Wannan ba yana nufin zai kamu da rashin lafiya nan da nan ba – zai iya kasancewa shekara ɗaya, 18:24.877 --> 18:27.525 biyu, biyar, goma ko goma sha biyar daga baya. 18:27.525 --> 18:36.215 Domin a lokacin da tsarin garkuwar jiki ya sami wani ƙarin ƙarfafawa irin wannan, ko ta hanyar allurar rigakafi, wani kamuwa 18:36.215 --> 18:41.821 da ƙwayar cuta, wasu abubuwan waje, damuwa da sauransu, tsarin garkuwar jiki zai 18:41.821 --> 18:46.775 kaddamar da hari na autoimmune kan tsarin jijiyoyi. 18:46.775 --> 18:52.181 ALHAKIN MASU KERA, ANTENNA NA ALUMINIUM 18:52.181 --> 19:00.880 Dr András Guseo: Tun bayan wucewar Dokar 1986, babu wajibi ga mai kera maganin rigakafi ya yi gwaji yadda ya kamata. 19:00.880 --> 19:07.208 Adalci, ba a san wanda ke gwaji ba a bangarori biyu, an yi amfani da maganin kwaikwayo, bincike ne na cibiyoyi da dama, na tsawon 19:07.208 --> 19:11.622 shekaru biyu, kamar yadda ake buƙata ga duk magunguna a wannan masana'antu, amma ba a taɓa 19:11.622 --> 19:14.870 gudanar da shi ga alluran rigakafi ba. Ko ga ɗaya ba. 19:14.870 --> 19:17.909 Ba sai ka duba nesa ba don samun misalai. 19:17.909 --> 19:21.310 Mafi kyawun misali shi ne annobar duniya ta baya-bayan nan. 19:21.310 --> 19:27.607 Allurar rigakafin da aka yi amfani da ita ta samu ne bayan watanni kaɗan kacal tun bayan barkewar kamuwa da ƙwayar cutar, 19:27.607 --> 19:32.134 alhali a al'ada ana ɗaukar shekaru biyar zuwa takwas kafin a gwada allurar rigakafi don 19:32.134 --> 19:35.464 tantance ko tana aiki yadda ya kamata ko a'a. 19:35.464 --> 19:40.817 Wannan abu ɗaya ne. Abu na gaba shi ne cewa ba su gudanar da binciken placebo ba, don haka ba su 19:40.817 --> 19:44.259 kwatanta tasirin da maganin da ba shi da tasiri ba. 19:44.259 --> 19:50.360 Ba su yi hakan da kowanne daga cikin alluran rigakafi ba, don haka ba mu san yadda alluran rigakafi suke tasiri ba. 19:50.360 --> 19:54.949 Mun san cewa akwai matsaloli, musamman wajen yi wa mutum allurar rigakafi ta haɗe-haɗe . 19:54.949 --> 20:05.620 Akwai misalai da dama na haka, inda jariri mai watanni biyu, uku ko huɗu ke karɓar allurai guda shida a lokaci guda. 20:11.336 --> 20:17.597 Kuma hakan bai haɗa dukkan alluran rigakafi da ke karewa daga dukkan kwayoyin cuta da ke cikin wannan rigakafin haɗe-haɗe 20:17.597 --> 20:23.875 ba, domin waɗannan alluran rigakafi guda shida suna nufin fiye da goma ko fiye da ashirin daga cikin kwayoyin cuta. 20:23.875 --> 20:28.336 Duk da haka, tsarin garkuwar jiki na jariri mai watanni biyu bai haɓaka ba tukuna. 20:28.336 --> 20:33.161 Ya danganta da kariyar jiki ta uwa. Kuma wannan kariyar jiki tana da rauni. 20:33.161 --> 20:36.700 Kuma yanzu tsarin garkuwar jikin yaron ya fara bunƙasa. 20:36.700 --> 20:42.320 Kuma muna turawa da babbar ƙara. Gaskiya abin mamaki ne. 20:47.341 --> 20:54.422 Wani matsala mafi girma kuma ita ce cewa kwakwalwar wannan yaro ba ta girma ba tukuna; har yanzu tana ci gaba da girma. 20:54.422 --> 20:58.360 Kuma a cikin kwakwalwa akwai shingen kariya, wato shingen jini-kwakwalwa. 20:58.360 --> 21:03.216 Saboda haka, abin da ya shiga cikin jini ba zai iya shiga kwakwalwa kai tsaye ba. 21:03.216 --> 21:07.400 Duk da haka, wannan katanga mai kariya ba ta haɓaka ba tukuna a cikin yara. 21:07.400 --> 21:14.520 Abin da aka ba yaro kuma ya shiga cikin jini, haka yake shiga kwakwalwa ba tare da kariya ba. 21:21.414 --> 21:25.777 Matsalar ita ce cewa alluran rigakafi su ne masu ƙarfafa garkuwar jiki masu rauni sosai. 21:25.777 --> 21:31.553 Domin su sa tsarin garkuwar jiki ya yi aiki da gaske, dole ne a ƙara adjuvants , waɗanda ke 21:31.553 --> 21:34.552 sa tsarin garkuwar jiki ya fara aiki tun farko. 21:34.552 --> 21:39.840 Kuma wannan abin tallafi a cikin alluran rigakafi shine aluminium. 21:41.909 --> 21:45.735 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Na yi tunanin an haɗa shi a dukkan alluran rigakafi? 21:45.735 --> 21:50.765 Dr András Guseo: Alluran rigakafi sun saba ƙunsar mercury, amma da sa'a an haramta hakan. 21:50.765 --> 21:57.442 Amma har yanzu akwai wasu; allurar rigakafin hepatitis B har yanzu tana ɗauke da mercury. 21:57.442 --> 22:01.185 Allurar rigakafin mura na iya har yanzu ƙunsar mercury. 22:01.185 --> 22:05.568 Kuma wannan aluminium yana shiga cikin kwakwalwa ɗaya bayan ɗaya. 22:05.568 --> 22:13.100 Kuma aluminium ana motsa shi a cikin ƙwayoyin jijiyoyi ta hanyar radiyon Wi-Fi ko na wayar salula. 22:26.274 --> 22:29.095 Zai kasance mai karɓarsu, antenarsu. 22:29.095 --> 22:34.067 Kuma hakan yana haifar da wani tasirin lantarki mai ban mamaki a cikin kwakwalwa. 22:34.067 --> 22:39.735 Kwayoyin jijiyoyi a cikin kwakwalwa ma suna samar da raƙuman lantarki, kuma dukkan kwayoyin a jikina suna 22:39.735 --> 22:43.143 jin waɗannan raƙuman, waɗanda ke ba kwayoyina kuzari. 22:43.143 --> 22:50.787 Idan na sanya wannan jiki a cikin filin lantarki da maganadisu kuma na fallasa shi ga Wi-Fi – 50 Hz – da sauran radiyon wayar 22:50.787 --> 22:54.434 salula, to waɗannan suna shafar aikin lantarki na cikin jikina. 22:54.434 --> 23:03.943 Kuma idan ina da antena a cikin kwakwalwata, hakan zai yi babban tasiri ga babban tsarin sarrafa ta, wato aikin kwayoyin halitta. 23:07.026 --> 23:12.434 HUNGARY – BA WANI KE DA ALHAKI GA LALACIN ALLURAR KARIYA 23:12.434 --> 23:18.635 Dr Angelika Mihalik: A Hungary, doka an tsara ta ne ta yadda babu mashiƙi, babu likita, babu gwamnati da za su 23:18.635 --> 23:24.797 ɗauki alhakin kowace lahani da allurar rigakafi ta jawo. 23:24.797 --> 23:32.580 Sakamakon haka shi ne cewa idan babu hukunci, babu wanda zai bi ƙa'idoji. 23:34.644 --> 23:39.183 Wannan doka ce ta dabi'a! 23:39.183 --> 23:47.334 Tun da babu likita, babu jiha, babu mai kera magani da ke da alhaki a Hungary, likitan ba ya cika wajibinsa 23:47.334 --> 23:52.965 na sanar da majiyyaci game da tasirin allurar rigakafi. 23:52.965 --> 23:58.078 Ba ya yin aiki a matakin da ake buƙata saboda bai koyi yadda ake yin hakan ba. 23:58.078 --> 24:04.100 Don haka muna fafutuka domin waɗanda abin ya shafa kuma suka zo wurinmu, domin dole ne su wuce ta cikin wata jerin gwaje-gwaje. 24:04.100 --> 24:09.276 Bugu da ƙari, babu wanda za a iya ɗaukar alhaki, don haka muna ci gaba da gaza sau da yawa. 24:09.276 --> 24:16.851 Amma muna yaƙi, ƙarar mu na ci gaba, kuma dole ne mu fara sabuwar farawa sau da yawa don 'yantar da mutane daga allurar rigakafi. 24:16.851 --> 24:20.962 SHEKARA-SHEKARA NA ZABIN KANKA NA ALLURAR KARIYA 24:20.962 --> 24:24.036 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Don haka zai yi kyau idan abubuwa biyu suka faru: 24:24.036 --> 24:30.923 Da farko, abin da Jamhuriyar Amurka ke yaƙi a kai, da abin da gwamnatin Kennedy, wato gwamnatin Trump, ke yaƙi a kai, shi 24:30.923 --> 24:34.895 ne kawo ƙarshen wannan rashin alhaki daga hannun masana'antun. 24:34.895 --> 24:42.664 Ya kamata a cimma wannan ma a Hungary, domin waɗanda ke da alhaki su daina amsa wa kowa. 24:42.664 --> 24:45.594 Kuma likitan ya kamata a ɗauki alhaki. 24:45.594 --> 24:51.063 Domin za su yi ƙoƙarin wayar da kan mutane game da haɗarin allurar rigakafi ne kawai idan za 24:51.063 --> 24:54.469 a iya ɗaukar su alhaki kan lahani da suka yi. 24:54.469 --> 25:02.047 Kuma abu na gaba shi ne cewa da zarar an soke wannan ƙa'ida – wadda ke cewa ba likita ba gwamnati ke da alhakin lahani 25:02.047 --> 25:09.547 da alluran rigakafi suka haifar – za a kuma mika bayani game da illolin alluran rigakafi ga majiyyata da iyaye. 25:09.547 --> 25:14.441 Bugu da ƙari, da alluran rigakafi sun kasance na zaɓi, ba za mu shiga wannan gwagwarmaya ba, 25:14.441 --> 25:17.948 inda a zahiri muke yaƙi don rayuwar 'ya'yanmu. 25:17.948 --> 25:24.302 Mai tsara tattaunawa: To, likita dole ne ya yi rantsuwa cewa zai warkar da kai ko ba zai yi maka lahani ba. 25:26.259 --> 25:29.520 Toh, mu duba hakan kaɗan: 25:29.520 --> 25:37.139 Don haka idan likita ya yi rantsuwa a kan wannan, amma bai watsa bayanai game da rigakafi ba, har ma bai yi 25:37.139 --> 25:46.960 gwaje-gwaje kafin ba don gano ko wannan yaro zai kamu da rashin lafiya daga baya, to ya yi rantsuwa a banza. 25:46.960 --> 25:51.270 A gaskiya, ya karya rantsuwar sa. 25:51.270 --> 25:54.263 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ba mu da irin wannan lamari guda ɗaya kawai – muna da da yawa! 25:54.263 --> 25:58.135 Ba kawai ƙara ba. Muna ƙara likitoci ne musamman. 25:58.135 --> 26:03.190 Domin, ko da ba a aiwatar da shi ta wannan hanya ba, shi ne doka a Hungary: 26:03.190 --> 26:08.350 Idan likita ya rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaro allurar rigakafi ba saboda dalilai na lafiya, 26:08.350 --> 26:11.983 to hukumomi su sassauta masa buƙatar yin rigakafi. 26:11.983 --> 26:19.495 Muna da lokuta inda likitoci biyu da likitoci huɗu suka rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi ba. 26:19.495 --> 26:25.156 Iyaye sun kai wannan ga hukumomi, kuma hukumomi sun nada wani mai ba da shawara kan rigakafi – wata 26:25.156 --> 26:29.630 hukuma ce a Hungary – wanda bai taɓa ganin yaron ba a da. 26:29.630 --> 26:37.499 Likitan magani guda biyu, ko ma likitoci huɗu da ke maganin yaron, wasu daga cikinsu na tsawon shekaru takwas, 26:37.499 --> 26:47.083 wasu kuma na tsawon shekaru huɗu, kuma sun rubuta a shafuka da dama cewa yaron zai mutu saboda allurar rigakafi. 26:48.958 --> 26:57.476 Mashawarcin rigakafi bai ma kalle yaron ba, kawai yana karanta sakamakon – ina magana ne game da wasu takamaiman lokuta – sannan 26:57.476 --> 27:02.969 ya rubuta a layuka huɗu cewa za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi. 27:05.824 --> 27:08.480 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma waɗannan likitoci ne? 27:08.480 --> 27:13.800 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Likitoci, likitoci, likitoci da aka horar na musamman. 27:13.800 --> 27:21.560 Game da wata tambayar: Muna kuma ɗaukar matakin shari'a kan likitocin da ba su bayar da izinin tsallake allurar rigakafi 27:21.560 --> 27:27.204 ga yara da suka cancanci a tsallake musu wannan allurar ba. 27:27.204 --> 27:32.348 Kuma likita ya rubuta shi. Muna da irin waɗannan korafe-korafe da dama. 27:32.348 --> 27:39.093 Kuma likitoci da dama daban-daban sun rubuta cewa idan ana maganar alluran rigakafi na tilas, ba sa la'akari da 27:39.093 --> 27:48.236 jin daɗin yaron, sai dai da muradin jama'a, kuma dole ne a yi wa wannan yaron rigakafi domin cimma kariyar gari. 27:48.236 --> 27:51.069 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Kuma daga nan ba shi da muhimmanci abin da yaron yake da shi. 27:51.069 --> 27:55.822 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Ana kuma yin haka idan akwai matuƙar haɗari cewa yaron zai mutu daga wannan allurar rigakafi. 27:55.822 --> 27:59.824 Kuma za mu saka hakan a cikin bayanin ƙara. Muna da irin waɗannan shari'o'i da dama. 27:59.824 --> 28:05.391 Yawan yara masu autism na ƙaruwa 28:05.391 --> 28:10.386 Dr András Guseo: Cibiyar Kula da Cututtuka ta Amurka (CDC) ta wallafa bayanan ban mamaki da ke nuna yawan 28:10.386 --> 28:14.740 jariran da aka haifa a Amurka da za su kasance masu autism. 28:18.211 --> 28:23.781 A shekarar 2020, adadin ya kasance 158. 28:23.781 --> 28:29.784 Idan muka koma shekaru 15 da suka wuce, adadin ya kasance ɗaya cikin dubu goma. 28:29.784 --> 28:33.280 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin 158 ne daga cikin 10,000? 28:33.280 --> 28:38.662 Dr András Guseo: A'a, ɗaya daga cikin sabbin haihuwa 158 zai kasance mai autism. 28:38.662 --> 28:44.191 Kuma a tsawon shekaru, adadin da aka bayyana ya kasance yana raguwa, kuma a bara an 28:44.191 --> 28:48.755 samu yaro ɗaya mai autism cikin haihuwa tara. 28:50.410 --> 28:57.701 Yanayin yana raguwa sosai – ma'ana yawan yara marasa autism a cikin sababbin haihuwa yana ƙara raguwa. 28:57.701 --> 29:02.598 Kuma idan ban yi kuskure ba, za a kai matakin asali cikin shekaru biyu. 29:02.598 --> 29:09.527 Wannan yana nufin cewa kowanne yaro da aka haifa a Amurka na iya kasancewa mai autism. 29:09.527 --> 29:14.656 Dr. András Guseo: Wannan abin ban tsoro ne. Na kalli shi a gida, a ƙasarmu. 29:14.656 --> 29:20.373 Kuma ina so in nuna muku sabbin bayanai a wannan jadawalin. 29:20.373 --> 29:26.926 Yana nuna adadin yara masu autism masu shekaru 2 zuwa 18 da makarantu a fadin ƙasar suka 29:26.926 --> 29:32.372 ruwaito a ƙarshen watan Satumba daga 2018 zuwa 2024. 29:34.006 --> 29:42.435 Kuma yana nuna cewa ƙaruwa ta yi matuƙar muhimmanci, ta kai kashi 121 cikin ɗari cikin shekaru bakwai. 29:44.286 --> 29:52.474 Wannan yana nufin cewa adadin yara masu autism a makarantu yana ƙaruwa da matsakaicin kashi 17% a kowace shekara. 29:54.465 --> 30:00.986 Nikoletta Kertész: Sai kuma aka gabatar da allurar rigakafin chickenpox, da allurar rigakafin pneumococcal, wanda a da ake yi 30:00.986 --> 30:05.524 masa allurar rigakafi daga nau'ikan pneumococcal guda 13 daban-daban – yanzu kuwa akwai 30:05.524 --> 30:08.394 nau'ikan cuta 20. Kuma adadin na ƙaruwa ne. 30:08.394 --> 30:17.765 Yanzu muna tambayar kanmu da gaske yadda zai yiwu akwai yara da har yanzu ba sa iya magana a shekaru uku. 30:17.765 --> 30:27.155 To yaya zai yiwu cewa tarin yara ke shiga makarantar rassa a shekaru uku ba tare da iya magana ko amfani da bayan gida ba? 30:27.155 --> 30:31.601 Kuma waɗannan yara suna zuwa gare mu da yawa a duk faɗin ƙasar – ba kawai gare mu kaɗai ba. 30:31.601 --> 30:35.925 Za a saka su cikin ayyukan tallafi da ake da su. 30:35.925 --> 30:42.761 To, babu wata ƙasa a duniya da ke da cibiyoyin tallafi masu zaman kansu, cibiyoyin jiyya masu zaman 30:42.761 --> 30:47.033 kansu da malamai na buƙatun musamman fiye da na Hungary. 30:47.033 --> 30:53.073 Wannan yana nuna babban buƙata, kuma ba za mu iya yin alƙawura ba – babu ɗayan waɗannan cibiyoyin da 30:53.073 --> 30:56.644 zai iya yin ƙarin alƙawura. Buƙatun sun yi yawa sosai. 30:56.644 --> 31:02.883 Wannan annoba ce, ba wai kawai dangane da yawan yaran da ke da autism ba, har ma saboda halayen waɗannan yara sun 31:02.883 --> 31:08.158 bambanta ƙwarai da halayen lafiya. Ba za a iya musanta hakan ba. 31:08.158 --> 31:12.897 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Shi ya sa muka dade muna sanar da cewa zaman sauraron shari'a a kotu na bude wa jama'a, 31:12.897 --> 31:15.780 domin mutane su halarci zaman sauraron shari'a a kotu. 31:15.780 --> 31:19.936 Muna koyaushe gayyatar mutane idan abokin ciniki ya yarda. 31:19.936 --> 31:29.003 Wani malamin makarantar sakandare ya taɓa shiga irin wannan shari'ar kotu saboda ya lura cewa daga cikin yara 47 da suka 31:29.003 --> 31:38.972 yi jarabawar shiga makarantar sakandare, 20 daga cikinsu suna da buƙatun ilimi na musamman – mafi yawansu masu autism ne. 31:38.972 --> 31:46.387 Ba mu ba ne, wani ƙungiya ce ta tambayi ƙasashen membobin Tarayyar Turai – ƙasashen da ba a tilasta yin 31:46.387 --> 31:53.288 rigakafi – dalilin da ya sa ba a tilasta yin rigakafi. 31:53.288 --> 32:02.658 Kuma sun amsa game da ma'aikatun da muka riga mun sani, wato saboda ba su da bisa ga kundin tsarin mulki. 32:06.413 --> 32:12.748 Dalilin da ya sa tilastawa allurar rigakafi ya saba wa kundin tsarin mulki – kuma a ko'ina cikin duniya hakan ba bisa ka'ida 32:12.748 --> 32:17.018 ba ne – shi ne cewa za ka iya mutuwa daga allurar rigakafi. 32:17.018 --> 32:20.964 Wannan gaskiya ce. Babu yadda za a musanta shi. 32:20.964 --> 32:30.203 Za ka iya mutuwa daga ƙwayar aspirin; za ka iya fuskantar anaphylaxis daga komai. Don haka za ka iya mutuwa daga gare ta. 32:30.203 --> 32:37.324 Ba bisa ga kundin tsarin mulki ba ne a tilasta wani abu da zai iya kashe ka. 32:37.324 --> 32:40.946 Yana take hakkin rayuwa. 32:43.160 --> 32:48.419 A gefe guda, mutane ba su san komai game da shi ba saboda ana sayar da shi a matsayin wajibci kuma alluran rigakafi kawai za 32:48.419 --> 32:54.050 su iya zama masu kyau kuma ba za ka iya mutuwa daga gare su ba. 32:54.050 --> 33:02.695 Baya ga canjin doka, dole ne a gudanar da kamfen na wayar da kan mutane. 33:04.764 --> 33:13.785 Dole ne a soke tilastawar yin rigakafi kuma a sanar da mutane game da fa'idodi, rashin fa'idodi, haɗarori da sauransu na 33:13.785 --> 33:20.476 rigakafi – ta bakin likitoci, kafofin watsa labarai da gwamnati. 33:20.476 --> 33:27.628 Dr András Guseo: Kuma, idan ka kalli yau, CDC, wadda muka ambata sau da dama, Cibiyar Kula da Cututtuka ta 33:27.628 --> 33:35.278 Amurka, wato hukumar Amurka ta binciken yaduwar cututtuka, ita ma ita ce mai rarraba alluran rigakafi. 33:35.278 --> 33:41.103 Don haka yana da alaƙa kai tsaye da masu kera alluran rigakafi, kuma yana cikin muradinsu su kawo yawan 33:41.103 --> 33:45.196 alluran rigakafi da zai yiwu kasuwa. Wannan abu ne a bayyane. 33:45.196 --> 33:52.827 Babban matsalar ita ce cewa lokacin da na fara aikina shekaru 60 da suka wuce kuma na yi jarrabawar ƙwarewa a fannin 33:52.827 --> 34:00.144 jijiyoyin jiki da kwakwalwa, an riga an san ra'ayin autoimmunity, amma ba a danganta shi da cututtuka ba. 34:00.144 --> 34:04.321 Ban taɓa jin labarin autism ba, kuma ba mu taɓa koyo komai game da shi ba. 34:04.321 --> 34:07.455 A yau, duka nau'ikan cututtuka biyu suna ƙaruwa. 34:07.455 --> 34:13.589 To, a nan za ka ga ƙaruwa, kuma a yau za mu iya magana game da annoba, domin babu wata 34:13.589 --> 34:17.582 iyali da ba ta da cutar autoimmune a cikin idonta. 34:17.582 --> 34:25.789 Babu wata iyali da ba ta da yaro mai autism ko yaro mai matsalolin hali da ke zaune a idonta. 34:27.356 --> 34:32.978 Babban tsarin ba ya yarda da kowace sabani 34:32.978 --> 34:38.348 Dr András Guseo: Wani muhimmin batu da nake son jaddada shi ne babu wani bincike na hukuma kan 34:38.348 --> 34:43.161 alluran rigakafi da ke nazarin tasirinsu na dogon lokaci. 34:45.800 --> 34:51.708 Me ke faruwa ga mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi bayan shekaru 10, 20, 30? 34:53.241 --> 34:57.990 A Amurka, akwai wani bincike mai suna VAERS , wanda ya yi nazari kan mutane 35,000 da aka yi 34:57.990 --> 35:02.394 musu rigakafi da wadanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba. 35:02.394 --> 35:07.900 An gano cewa waɗanda aka yi musu rigakafi sun fi rashin lafiya sosai, sun sami ƙarin tabbacin cututtuka, sun fi zuwa 35:07.900 --> 35:14.622 ga likita fiye da waɗanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba, yayin da waɗanda ba a yi musu rigakafi ba suka fi lafiya. 35:20.036 --> 35:29.596 Amma mutane ba sa son yin magana a kai, shi ya sa a zahiri babu wata bayanai a kai, kuma wannan shi ne babbar matsala: 35:29.596 --> 35:36.649 Kimiyya a yau tana da cikakken iko kan wallafe-wallafen kimiyya, har idan wani ya so ya rubuta wani abu da bai 35:36.649 --> 35:41.739 yi daidai da ra'ayin gama gari ba, ba za a buga shi ba. 35:47.382 --> 35:52.705 Dr Angelika Mihalik: Kuma wani abu mai matuƙar muhimmanci da András ya faɗa, domin akwai likitoci, ko da 35:52.705 --> 35:59.260 kaɗan ne, waɗanda suka yi ƙarfin hali su rubuta cewa ba za a iya yi wa yaron rigakafi ba. 35:59.260 --> 36:07.664 Kuma hukumar kiwon lafiya ta jama'a tana ɗaukar matakin shari'a kan waɗannan likitoci saboda sun rubuta hakan. 36:07.664 --> 36:10.384 Tabbas, ba a faɗa shi haka ba. 36:10.384 --> 36:16.678 Wasu daga cikin likitocin da abin ya shafa kawai suna karɓar kiran waya da ke gaya musu kada su sake yin hakan. 36:16.678 --> 36:24.504 A kan wasu, ana kaddamar da shari'ar hukuma bisa dalilai daban-daban. 36:24.504 --> 36:34.246 Kuma domin mutane su sani dokokin: idan hukumomin lafiya sun gano keta doka – kuma wannan ya shafi mutane masu zaman kansu har ma 36:34.246 --> 36:42.327 iyaye da ba su yi wa 'ya'yansu rigakafi ba – ana iya tarar su tsakanin 30,000 da miliyan 5 na forint , kuma 36:42.327 --> 36:48.132 ana iya maimaita hakan sau da yawa ga kowace keta doka. 36:49.833 --> 36:58.952 Saboda haka, mafi yawan likitoci za su iya tsammanin ramuwar gayya ko da sun amince ko sun ba da rahoton wani illa ta baki. 37:00.838 --> 37:05.132 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Shin hakan zai canza? Shin abin da muke tattaunawa a kai zai canza? Ka shiga cikin 37:05.132 --> 37:08.889 wannan lamari na tsawon shekaru da dama, ko ba haka ba? 37:08.889 --> 37:12.701 Dr. András Guseo: Muna fatan wani abu zai canza. Mun yi ƙoƙari. 37:12.701 --> 37:20.126 Kusan watanni shida da suka wuce, mun gayyaci manyan wakilan wannan sana'a zuwa wani taro don tattauna 37:20.126 --> 37:25.065 wannan batu, don jin ra'ayoyinsu da gabatar da matsayarmu. 37:25.065 --> 37:27.180 Amma ya kasance kamar labulen ƙarfe: 37:27.180 --> 37:33.654 Babu wanda ya zo, kuma daga baya, a taron manema labarai da muka gayyaci 'yan jarida 37:33.654 --> 37:37.457 arba'in, labulen ƙarfe iri ɗaya ya biyo baya. 37:37.457 --> 37:40.943 Don haka babu wata tattaunawa. 37:40.943 --> 37:45.099 To, ta yaya za a samu canji? 37:45.099 --> 37:50.398 Dr Angelika Mihalik: To, András ya ce babu wanda ya karɓi gayyatar. 37:52.816 --> 37:59.912 Suna tilasta yin rigakafi kuma... Hungary ita ce kadai ƙasar a duniya inda irin wannan 37:59.912 --> 38:06.353 tsoratarwar rigakafi take. Na duba wannan. 38:06.353 --> 38:11.642 An ba da tallafi ga yaro ɗaya kawai a ƙaramar gunduma. 38:11.642 --> 38:18.743 Muna fafutuka, kuma mun kai ga wani mataki inda a kotu, a shari'a, bayan mun sha kashi a wata shari'a, muna 38:18.743 --> 38:25.627 jin kamar muna rasa dukkan shari'unmu. Duk da haka, akwai hujjojin da muke da su don goyon baya. 38:25.627 --> 38:33.543 Alƙali, wanda tuni yake jin nadama, ya ce babu matsala, za mu iya sake gabatar da buƙatar keɓewa daga allurar rigakafi. 38:33.543 --> 38:35.683 Kuma komai ya fara sake farawa. 38:35.683 --> 38:38.316 Wannan ba ra'ayin alkalin guda ɗaya kawai ba ne, har ma na alkalai da dama. 38:38.316 --> 38:41.826 Don haka muna sake farawa da tsare-tsaren sau da yawa, sau da yawa. 38:41.826 --> 38:46.740 Ana kiyaye wasu yara suna rayuwa ta wannan hanya. 38:46.740 --> 38:55.284 An tsara dukkan tsarin shari'a ne ta yadda a aikace sai muka ƙirƙiri gibi a doka – wani irin na'urar motsi madawwami ce. 38:55.284 --> 39:00.801 Idan ba za mu iya samun a ɗauke wa yaron tilas na allurar rigakafi ba, muna so aƙalla mu ci gaba da aiwatar da 39:00.801 --> 39:03.824 tsarin neman ɗauke tilas har tsawon lokacin da zai yiwu. 39:03.824 --> 39:10.608 Domin muddin wannan yana ci gaba, ba za su iya sanya mana tara ko ɗaukar yaron mu yi masa allurar rigakafi ba. 39:10.608 --> 39:13.839 Shi ya sa muke ci gaba da maimaitawa. 39:16.919 --> 39:22.666 Kuma akwai wani abu mai muhimmanci da za a faɗa game da matakan da aka ɗauka a kanmu. 39:22.666 --> 39:26.064 Mu lauyoyi ne uku da muke magance waɗannan shari'o'in. 39:26.064 --> 39:33.248 Kuma ana lakabtar da mu duka uku a matsayin masu adawa da alluran rigakafi, kuma ana ikirarin cewa mu barazana ne ga al'umma. 39:33.248 --> 39:38.677 Suna kaddamar da matakan ladabtarwa a kanmu – kuma idan muka rasa mambobinmu na Kungiyar Lauyoyi 39:38.677 --> 39:42.968 sakamakon haka, ba za a sake ba mu izinin yin aikin lauya ba. 39:42.968 --> 39:45.761 An wanke ɗaya daga cikin abokan aikina daga wannan tuhuma. 39:45.761 --> 39:52.448 Ana shirin ɗaukar matakin ladabtarwa a kaina saboda ni mai adawa da alluran rigakafi ne kuma ina da haɗari ga al'umma. 39:52.448 --> 39:58.471 Kuma ana gudanar da shari'ar ladabtarwa kan wani abokin aiki ma. Don haka... 39:58.471 --> 40:01.538 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Idan na yi magana game da irin waɗannan batutuwa a bidiyoyina, 40:01.538 --> 40:03.742 kullum nakan ce ba lallai ne ku yarda da ni ba. 40:03.742 --> 40:07.546 Ina cewa: ka duba ka kuma yanke naka hukunci. 40:07.546 --> 40:09.652 Wannan tambaya ce ta bayanai. 40:09.652 --> 40:16.550 Kuma da irin wannan yawan bayanai, kamar yanzu a wannan hira, mutane za su iya fara amfani da intanet. 40:18.524 --> 40:19.668 Mai tsara tattaunawa: Na gode ƙwarai!