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E-Hungary, zininzi iingxaki zempilo phakathi kweentsana,
abantwana, abakwishumi elivisayo, kwanabantu abadala.

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Umgangatho olinganiselweyo wokuqhagamshelana kwezi zenzakalo
nokugonywa kwangaphambili kuxoxwa ngako kudliwano-ndlebe

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olulandelayo nogqirha kunye negqwetha elisuka eHungary,
kunye nomama ochaphazelekileyo ngulo mba onabantwana

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abathathu abazalwa bempilile kodwa ngoku banokukhubazeka.

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Ngokophononongo lwabo, inani labantwana abafunyaniswe
bene-autism emva kokugonywa lonyuke kakhulu eHungary.

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Iinzame ezininzi zaseHungary ziyakhathalela la bantwana,
zibaxhasa – okanye zilwa kunye nabazali babo ukuqinisekisa ukuba

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ukugonya abantwana okunyanzelekileyo akusanyanzelwanga eHungary.

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Ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo? Ngaba
ukugonywa kunyanzelekile ngokwenene eHungary?

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Enyanisweni, ugonyo lokuqala olunyanzelekileyo
lwaziswa eHungary kwangoko ngowe-1876, laza

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amanye alulandela ngowe-1954 nangeeminyaka yoo-1960.

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Namhlanje, zonke iintsana ezisandul' ukuzalwa eHungary zifakhelwa
isifo sephepha ngaphandle kokuba abazali bazo babuzwe kuqala.

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Ngo-1997 nango-1998, iSebe lezeMpilo laseHungary
lasungula imithetho yezempilo eyazisa unyango

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lokugonya olongezelelweyo nxamnye nezifo ezininzi.

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Okwangoku, abantwana baseHungary bagonywa ngokugonywa okuninzi
okunobungozi nxamnye nediphtheria, umkhuhlane

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wokukrakra, itetanasi, ipoliyo kunye neHaemophilus
influenzae type b kwiinyanga zobudala eziyi-2, 3, 4 ne-18.

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Ukongeza, izitofu zokugonya ze-pneumococcal
zinikwa kwiinyanga ezi-2, ezi-4 nezi-12 zobudala.

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Umthamo wokugonya odibanisayo wemichuno, i-mumps kunye ne-rubella
unikezelwa xa umntwana eneenwaka ezili-15 ubudala,

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kwaye umthamo wokugonya i-chickenpox unikezelwa
kwiintsana ezinenyanga ezili-13 nezili-16 ubudala.

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Abazali baseHungary kunzima kakhulu ukuba bakhulule abantwana
babo kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo, nokuba sele kukho

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umntwana kusapho owonakele kakhulu empilweni emva kokugonywa.

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Xa abantwana beqala ukuya kwi-daycare nakwizikolo zabantwana
abancinci, abongikazi bezonyango lwabantwana kunye

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nabalekisi ababakhathalele ukusukela ekuzalweni
banyanzelekile ukuba bajonge imeko yabo yokugonywa.

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Esikolweni, kukho ukugonywa ngobuninzi kweeklasi zizonke.

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Ukuba abazali bayala ukuba umntwana wabo abhiyozwe,
ugqirha wesikolo kufuneka axele oku kubaphathi bezempilo.

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Xa kukho amathandabuzo, oku kunokubangela
izohlwayo ezinkulu nokugxothwa esikolweni.

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Isigwebo sika-2019 sade savumela ukuba
abantwana abangagonywanga bakhutshwe kubazali babo.

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Kudliwano-ndlebe, ugqirha waseHungary ugxininisa ukuba ezinye
izinto nazo zinokuba negalelo ekunyukeni kwezinga

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lokosuleleka kwezifo kubantwana, njengengxaki yehlabathi
jikelele yokutya okuguqulwe kakhulu nokungeyokwemvelo.

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Nangona kunjalo, kucacisiwe ngokucacileyo ukuba izifo
ze-autoimmune, ukudumba, ukulibaziseka kuphuhliso, i-autism kunye

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nosulelo oluninzi olutsha zihlala zenzeka emva kokugonywa.

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Abatshantliziyo abathathu abathethe nathi ke ngoko baphikisana
ukuqinisekisa ukuba abavelisi begonyo bayaphenduliseka ngomonakalo

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ogonyo, kwaye oogqirha abagonyayo bayayifezekisa imisebenzi yabo
yokwazisa izigulana ngeziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya.

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Ukongeza, ukuvavanywa kwezinga lama-antibody kufuneka kwenziwe
ngokukhawuleza phambi kokugonywa okongezelelweyo

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okucwangcisiweyo, ukuze kuthintelwe ukusebenza
ngokugqithisileyo kwenkqubo yokuzikhusela komzimba kunye

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nomngcipheko osisiphumo sesifo sokuhlasela izicubu zomzimba.

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Ukongeza, oogqirha akufanelanga basohlwaywe ngenxa
yokukhupha izatifikethi zokukhululwa kugonyo, umzekelo

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ngokuqalisa amatyala asemthethweni ngokuchasene nabo.

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Ngokubanzi, ukugonya kufuneka kwenziwe kuphela ngokuzithandela –
oku kukwafunwa ngabazali baseJamani abafuna

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ukukhusela abantwana babo kwiziphumo
ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya i-measles okufunekayo apha.

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Le dliwano-ndlebe echukumisayo ibonisa ukuba
naseHungary – ekuye yaba yindawo ethandwayo

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ngabaphambukeli – ayizizo zonke izinto ezihamba kakuhle.

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Ngenxa yeziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya eziya zibonakala
ngakumbi – jonga kwakhona iimeko ezininzi zomonakalo obangelwe

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ziivaksini ze-coronavirus – kunye notshintsho oluqhubekayo
olusingisa kwiivaksini eziyingozi ze-mRNA kuzo zonke iivaksini,

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isimo sokuba ukugonya kunganyanzeliswa kodwa kusenziwe
ngokuzithandela, esifunwa ngabantu abaninzi, sisahleli

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siyindaba ebaluleke kakhulu kwabanye abachaphazelekayo.

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Udliwano-ndlebe: UKWAZISA AMAQABANE ZODLIWANO-NDLEBE

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Umququzeleli (Dániel István): Malunga emva kwemini,
ndamkela nonke ngothando nentlonipho enkulu.

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Iindwendwe zethu namhlanje ngu-András, u-Angelika no-Niki.

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Gqr András Guseo: NdingunguGqr András Guseo, ugqirha
wemithambo-luvo, ugqirha wengqondo, umphandi wamalungu

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emithambo-luvo, ingcali yezifundo zengqondo-mithambo-luvo-nkqubo
yokhuselo lomzimba, umhlohli woxinzelelo kunye nogqirha wophando.

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Njengelungu le-Akademi yeeNzululwazi yaseHungary,
bendithatha inxaxheba kuphando iminyaka engama-65.

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Imiba yam ephambili yophando yizifo zokuzikhusela komzimba, kwaye
kutshanje, i-autism njengomcimbi wezifo zokuzikhusela komzimba.

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ndingo Angelika Mihalik, ndingummeli.

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Ndibuyele kumsebenzi wezomthetho kwiinyanga
ezili-18 ezidlulileyo – ndandikhe ndawushiya ngaphambili

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kuba ndandingafuni kuba ngusolicitor okanye igqwetha.

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Yiloo nto ndafumana isidanga sokuguqulela kwezobuchwepheshe.
Ndandisazi isiNgesi kwaye ndafunda ukuguqulela

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kwezobuchwepheshe xa ndayeka umsebenzi wam wezomthetho.

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Ukusukela ngo-2019, bendiguqulela amanqaku
ezonyango anxulumene ne-Covid, izitofu zokugonya

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ze-Covid, kunye nezifundo eziphambili zeezonyango.

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Kwaye njengoko ndandiyiphanda, ndafumana amanqaku obuchwepheshe
neengxaki ezinxulumene nokugonya kwesiqhelo, kwaye kulapho ke

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ndabona khona into eyenzekayo ngokwenene ngokugonya kwesiqhelo.

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Kwafika kwinqanaba apho umntu endandimguqulela wabhalela
umyalezo kuMessenger esithi sidinga uKennedy waseHungary , ngoko

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ke ndagqiba kwelokuba ndibuyele ekusebenzeni njengegqwetha.

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Andithethi oku ngenxa yokuzidla, kodwa
kungenxa yokuba yiyo leyo nto kanye ebangele oku.

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Kwaye uNiki naye waba negalelo ekundenza ndaqonda
ukuba bekukho ingxaki kuba bekukho iziphumo ebezingalindelekanga

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ezivela kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo.

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UNiki wandibonisa ubunzulu bale ngxaki
inkulu ngokundimema kwisidlo somndeni

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endlwini yakhe, apho bekukho iindwendwe ezininzi.

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Baza nabantwana abane okanye abahlanu
abane-autism, ndaza ndabona ubunzima bengxaki.

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Ezi zizathu zimbini zandikhokelela
ekubuyeleni kwam kumsebenzi wezomthetho.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke sidinga uKennedy
waseHungary, masithi. Ewe, Niki? Qhubeka.

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Nikoletta Kertész: NdinguNikoletta
Kertész, endaziwa kakhulu njengoNiki Kertész.

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Ndinabantwana abathathu, bonke
abathathu baye bonzakaliswa kukugonywa.

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Lo mfo oneminyaka engama-24 ubudala waba
nakhubazeko olukhulu lwengqondo, une-epilepsi

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kwaye watshayelwa utyando lwengqondo ngenxa yoko.

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Omnye wamawele am asemtshatweni wam wesibini waba ngumntu
ongenakuthetha, onakwengqondo kwaye one-autism emva

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kokufumana isitofu sokugonya i-MMR eneminyaka eyi-15 yeenyanga.

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Umntakwabo wemilingane unezifo ezimandla
zokungahambelani nokutya kunye nokudumba kwemijelo

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yokwetyisa, kodwa yena wasinda engonakaliswanga engqondweni.

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Ndakhangela ndaza ndaphanda izizathu, kuba umntu
angacinga ukuba awunakunyathela kumlambo ophindwe kabini, kodwa

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unokunyathela kumlambo we-autoimmunity kangangoko uthanda.

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Ngoko ke, xa kuziwa emcimbini, ndaqaphela ukuba kukho
into engalunganga ngamawele, ndaza ndaqalisa

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ukuphanda, kwaye ndiza kunixelela apha into endiyifumanisileyo.

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Kwiminyaka elishumi eyadlulayo, ndaseka iqela
likaFacebook elithi "Autism Never Again" kunye nenkqubo yonyango

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endayiphuhlisayo esekelwe kwisondlo kunye nolunye unyango.

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Sincede amawaka abantu eqeleni ukuba banciphise iimpawu
zabo ze-autistic ne-ADHD – kwanaphaya kwemida yeqela.

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Abanye abantwana baye
baxhadathiswa nokuxilongwa kwabo kwe-autism.

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UKUGONWA OKUNYANZELWEYO KWIHlabathi jikelele

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Umlawuli: Ingaba abantwana baseHungary bafumana
izitofu zokugonya ezifana nezo, umzekelo, zaseAfrika?

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Ingaba imikhwa yokugonya iyafana
kwihlabathi lonke, okanye kukho umahluko?

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Gqr. András Guseo: Iindlela zokugonya
ziyahluka ukusuka kwelinye ilizwe ukuya kwelinye.

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Kumazwe ali-18 kwangama-30 aseYurophu, ukugonywa
akunyanzelekanga, okanye ukuba kunyanzelekile, kuba kukugonywa

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okukodwa okanye okubini kuphela –
ngokukodwa nxamnye nezo ntlungelo zithathwa

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njengoyena nobangela mkhulu wengozi kwelo lizwe.

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Zonke ezinye izitofu zokugonya zikhethekile.

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NGXABANO YOMTHETHO: UKUNGENAKHO KOLWAZI NGOKUGONWA KWABAZALI

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Umlawuli: Kulungile, Angelika, ndinombuzo kuwe:

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Xa abazali bezisa umntwana wabo kwidinga lokugonywa
– apha sithetha ngokugonywa okunyanzelekileyo –

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yeyiphi inkcazelo abayifumanayo abazali ngolu gonyo?

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Ngaba lo ngumbuzo obuthathaka?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Okwangoku
sinamatyala enkundla angangathi i-150.

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Abathengi bethu ubukhulu becala ngabantwana
abonzakeleyo; ngabo abangundoqo, kwaye

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sithatha amanyathelo asemthethweni egameni labo.

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Kwaye uninzi lwabo ngokwalo lwenzakele
kakhulu okanye kancinci sisitofu sokugonya.

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Okanye beze kuthi kuba umntu wabo wenzakele
kakhulu ngenxa yokugonywa okanye wasweleka.

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Kwaye ngelishwa, oogqirha abafundiswa
ngokwaneleyo okanye ngokweenkcukacha ezaneleyo eyunivesithi.

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Amakhosi okuqeqesha akafundisi ngemijovo yokugonya okanye indlela
esebenza ngayo, kodwa afundisa kuphela

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iinkcukacha-manani malunga nokuba kutheni imijovo
yokugonya ilungile, yeyiphi ekhoyo, njalo njalo.

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Ngoko ke oogqirha banolwazi oluncinci
kakhulu oluyinyani malunga neentsholongwane.

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Ngelishwa. Kwaye kananjalo malunga
nendlela ezisebenza ngayo izitofu zokugonya.

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Yiyo loo nto ke nabazali ngokucacileyo abazisiwayo.

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ABAZALI BAYAZISWA NJANI? – UMTHETHO WANGO-1997 –
ZINGKANANI IZITOFO EZIKHAYO? – UKUPHELELA KWESITOFO

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Umlawuli: Ngaba abazali bafumana iphepha
lolwazi xa abantwana babo kufuneka bagonywe?

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Ngoko ke, ileta enolwazi malunga
nokuba kuza kwenzeka ntoni ngomntwana?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Uza kufumana iphepha
le-A4 elichaza ukuba le ntlawulo yeyentoni.

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Mlawuli: Uyakufumana oko emva kokugonywa?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Hayi, phambi
kokugonywa. Yiloo nto umntwana agoduka nayo.

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Kodwa ndiza kukhankanya umzekelo omnye
obaluleke kakhulu, isitofu sokugonya i-MMR .

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I-MMR inayo irubella, kwaye iyosulela.

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Imiyalelo ithi kuyingozi kubafazi abakhulelweyo.

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Lo ngumzekelo ochanekileyo
kakhulu. Awufakwanga kwiphepha lolwazi.

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Ugqirha wesikolo ubeka abantwana
emgceni, kodwa akathethi nto kubo.

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Konke kulungile ngoku ekubeni eli
phepha lenkcazelo linikwe abazali.

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Abantwana bemi ngomgca, akababuzi namnye kubo:
Ingaba umama wakho ukhulelwe? Ingaba udadewenu ukhulelwe?

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Lo ngumzekelo ochanekileyo kakhulu.

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Kukho imeko ethile yokosulelwa ngumntwana okwasemathunjini
kulandela ukugonywa kwesizalwana somntwana ongazalwanga.

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Ngoko ke yileyo icala elimnyama, njengoko ubeke.

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Abantu abayifumani inkcazelo eyaneleyo.

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Umlawuli: Ingaba umthetho
waseHungary uthi abazali kufuneka baziswe?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.
Umququzeleli: Leliphi elo mthetho, kwaye wapasiswa nini?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Leyo yiMthetho wezeMpilo ka-1997.

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Umlawuli: Ngoku sibhala u-2025? Gqr. Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.

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Umlawuli: Sele kuliminyaka eliqela
eyadlulayo ngoku! Kwaye akukho mntu ukhe wayijonga

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ukusukela ngoko? Gqr. Angelika Mihalik: Hayi.

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Umlawuli: Kwaye zingaphi iinjongo
ezongezelelweyo eziye zanikezelwa ukusukela ngo-1997?

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Nikoletta Kertész: ukusukela ngo-97, ndicinga ukuba kusenokubakho
ezinye ezilishumi. Ngokuqinisekileyo zikho ezinye ezilishumi.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke kukho malunga ne-10
ezinye iintlawulo ezinyanzelekileyo.

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Kodwa umthetho weminyaka yoo-1990 awuzange
uphononongwe. Nikoletta Kertész: Kunjalo.

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AMAPHULOMPHANDA OKUGONWA = UKUGONWA OKUNYANZELWEYO EZIKOLWENI

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Nikoletta Kertész: Ugonyo lwangaphambi kwesikolo lwabantwana
abaneminyaka ephakathi kwe-0 ne-6 lwenziwa ngendlela yokuba

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abazali bathathe nje abantwana babo baya kugqirha
wabantwana izihlandlo ezili-12, oko kukuthi, kugqirha wabo

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wosapho wabantwana, obazisa ngokufutshane aze abagonyele apho.

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Inyathelo elilandelayo kukugonyelwa esikolweni.

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Zibizwa ngokuba ngamaphulo okugonya.

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Umlawuli: Yintoni iphulo lokugonya?

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Nikoletta Kertész: Isizathu sokuba le
ngcamango ibizwe ngaloo ndlela ngumbuzo olungileyo.

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Ngokwesiseko, kuthetha ukuba esikolweni, abantwana bebanga
elithile bakhokelwa njengeegusha baye kugqirha wesikolo,

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kuqalwa ngabo bonke abantwana bebanga lesithandathu, umzekelo.

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Iklasi 6a kwisigaba sokuqala, iklasi 6b kwisigaba
sesibini, iklasi 6c kwisigaba sesithathu. Emva koko 7a, 7b, 7c.

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Kwaye konke oku ngosuku olunye, njengephulo lokuthengisa
okanye iphulo lezopolitiko okanye iphulo leentengiso,

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ukuze bonke abafundi bafumane esi siqholo ngaxeshanye.

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Yiyo loo nto ikwabizwa ngokuba yiphulo lokugonya eHungary.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke loo nto inyanzelekile.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kuyanyanzeleka, ewe. Ngoko ke kukho izitofu
zokugonya ezinikwa ngoogqirha bezingane kunye nezitofu zesikolo

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ezicwangciswa esikolweni ukuze onke abantwana babe kwindawo enye.

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Oko kwenza kube lula ukugonya wonke
umntu ngaloo mini, kwaye ke ube ugqibile.

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Abazali akufuneki bazise abantwana babo kugqirha ngokwabo, kwaye
akukho mfuneko yokuba abasemagunyeni

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bajonge emva koko ukuba ngubani owenziwe isitofu
sokugonya nongubani ongakhange asifumane.

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ICWECHE LOLWAZI NGOKUGONWA

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: Nikoletta Kertész: Yonke imithi
nesitofu sokugonya iza nencwadana yezikhokelo.

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Olu xwebhu lweenkcukacha, olufakwe
kwipakethe, alufani ncam nolo lukhutshwe ngumenzi.

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Ngoko ke, kukho incwadana yeziyobisi ekhutshwe
ngumenzi, kwaye kukho enye efunyanwa ngugqirha.

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Kukho isindululo, oko kukuthi, ulwazi olufutshane olufanele
lwanele abazali, kwaye ke kukho isicatshulwa esifutshane kakhulu

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abazali abacelwa ukuba basityikitye, esichaza nje, umzekelo,
ukuba ugonyo lunokubangela umkhuhlane nokubabomvu kolusu.

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Maxa wambi, ndiye ndabona bebhala ukuba inokubangela
isiyezi okanye ukugabha. Kodwa oko kunqabile kakhulu.

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Ezi ziimpawu ze-anaphylaxis .

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Kodwa ndibone nje le ncinci yolwazi.

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Ngoko ke lolo ulwazi esilufumanayo thina
bazali; abazali abaliqela balungqinile oku kum.

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ZININZI IINTSULU EZINTSHA NGENXA YOKUCHITHA
KWEENTSHULU EMVA KOKUGONYWA, UMZEKELO I-UKRAINE

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke... ukuba baqala eli phulo lokugonya apha,
ukuba bagonya abantwana abaninzi kangaka, ingaba kuza kubakho

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into efana nokusasazeka kwegciwane elivela
kwisitofu – ngamanye amazwi, ingaba kuza kubakho usulelo

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oluninzi olutsha kamsinya nje emva kokugonya oku?

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Gqr. András Guseo: Ngokomgaqo, oko kunokwenzeka.

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Ubomi bunike umzekelo obubalaseleyo woku,
njengoko kwafunyaniswa e-Ukraine ukuba izinga

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lokugonywa ngomthubi-gonyamelo lalingaphantsi kwe-35%.

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I-WHO ne-UNICEF zayibona le nto, yaye, ukuze "bancede" i-Ukraine
ekoyiseni le "meeko yentlekele" yokuba abantu, ingakumbi

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abantwana, bangagonywanga ngokupheleleyo,
bayinike i-Ukraine izitofu zokugonya baza

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baqhuba iphulo lokugonya ngendlela efanayo.

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Isiphumo: Ngezinga lokugonya langaphambili eliyi-35%, bekubakho
izifo zomkhuhlane wengane eziphakathi kwama-60 nama-70 ngonyaka.

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Kodwa hayi kwiminyaka emininzi ngoku.

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Emva kokuba kuphehlelelwe iphulo lokugonya, kwabakho izifo
zomkhuhlane wamakhwenkwezi ezili-12,000 kwiinyanga

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ezimbini, apho izi-9,000 zazo zafuna ukulaliswa esibhedlele
kwaye i-1,600 yazibangela umkhuhlane wamakhwenkwezi omandundu.

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Ngoko ke oku kubonisa le nto besithetha ngayo
ngaphambili, yokuba abantu abagonyiweyo banokosulela abanye.

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UVIDO LWEEMVAVANYYO ZOMTHAMO WAMACHA
KUNYE NOKWANDISWA OKUGQITHISILEYO KWAMACHA

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Gqr. András Guseo: Ngoko ke, khange kubekho zosulelo lwe-measles
e-Ukraine, kodwa xa baqala ukugonya ngesitofu esiphilayo, abantu

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abagonyiweyo basasaza isifo kwaye kwabakho ubhubhane omandundu.

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Ngoko ke yingxaki enkulu leyo.

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Enye into yeyokuba olu phulo lokugonya aluthatheli ngqalelo
kuphela ukuba kukho umntu okhulelweyo usapho,

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kodwa kananjalo nokuba umntu oza kugonywa sele
eneesisithinteli-mzimba ezichasene nesitofu u-X.

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Ngamanye amazwi, inani le-antibodies
elinokulinganiswa, i-antibody titre.

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Gqirha András Guseo: Kuba ukuba unamanqanaba ezokontra
aphezulu ngokwaneleyo, awuyidingi isitofu sokugonya.

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Yiloo nto ebhaliweyo kumaphepha esiphakethi.
Ewe. Kodwa loo nto ayikaze iphantsi kwephando.

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Kwaye kwiimeko ezininzi ezifune ungeno lwezomthetho,
amanqanaba e-antibody alinganiswa, kwaye ayephakamele kakhulu.

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Ukuba usebenzisa isitofu sokugonya umkhuhlane kwinqanaba
eliphezulu kangaka, udala ukhuseleko olugqithisileyo,

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kwaye ingozi yokhuseleko olugqithisileyo kukuba ludala
imeko efanelekileyo yokukhula kwezifo zokuhlasela umzimba.

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Kwaye xa inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba
ityhalelwe ngokugqithisileyo, oko kukuthi xa ivuswe

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ngokugqithisileyo, ikhokiswa lula kakhulu.

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Zombini, usulelo lwe-measles kunye nesitofu sokugonya, zivuselela
umzimba ukuba uvelise izilwa-mzimba ezichasene

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neprotheyini yesiseko se-myelin engqondweni, kwaye
ukusukela ngoko, umzimba ukwimeko yokuzihlasela.

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Oko akuthethi ukuba uza kugula kwangoko –
kunokwenzeka kwakhona emva konyaka omnye, emibini,

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emihlanu, elishumi okanye elishumi elinesihlanu.

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Kuba ke, xa inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba ifumana enye yezi
zikhulisi, nokuba kungenxa yesitofu sokugonya, olunye usulelo

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lwe-virus, ezinye izinto zangaphandle,
uxinzelelo, njl.njl., inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba iqalisa

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uhlaselo lwe-autoimmune kwinkqubo yemithambo-luvo.

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UXANDUVO LOMVELISI, I-ANTENNA YE-ALUMINIYAM

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Gqirha András Guseo: Ukusukela ekuphasisweni
koMthetho ka-1986, akukho nyanzeliso

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kumvelisi yokuvavanya ngokwaneleyo isitofu sokugonya.

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Uphononongo olungakhethi, olungabonisi macala omabini, nolawulwa
nge-placebo, uphando olwenziwa kwiiziko ezininzi, oluthatha

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iminyaka emibini, njengoko kufuneka ngokwenene kuzo
zonke iyeza kweli shishini, aluzange lwenziwe kwizitofu

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zokugonya. Akukaze kwenziwe nakwisitofu esinye sokugonya.

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Akufuneki ukhangele kude ufumane imizekelo.

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Eyona mzekelo ilungileyo
yobhubhane wamva nje wehlabathi jikelele.

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Isitofu sokugonya esasisetyenzisiwe safumaneka kwiinyanga nje
ezimbalwa emva kokuqhambuka kolu bhubhane lwenkcitho, ngelixa

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kudla ngokuthatha iminyaka emihlanu ukuya
kwemibhozo ukuvavanya isitofu sokugonya ukuze

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kufunyaniswe ukuba sisebenza ngokwenene na okanye hayi.

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Leyo yinto enye. Enye into yeyokuba abazange
benze uphando lwe-placebo, ngoko ke abazange

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bathelekise isiphumo nonyango olungasebenziyo.

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Abakenzanga oko kuso nasiphi na isitofu
sokugonya, ngoko ke asazi ukuba zisebenza kangakanani na.

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Siyazi ukuba zikho iingxaki, ingakumbi xa
kugutyungelwa isitofu esidibanisiweyo .

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Zininzi iimzekelo zoku, apho umntwana
oneenyanga ezimbini, ezintathu okanye ezine

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ubudala afumana izitofu ezithandathu ngaxeshanye.

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Kwaye oko akubandakanyi zonke izitofu zokugonya ezichasene nazo
zonke iintsholongwane ezifakiwe kolu gonyo lwezitofu ezininzi,

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kuba ezi zitofu zintandathu zijolise
kwiintsholongwane ezingaphezulu kwezilishumi

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okanye ezingaphezulu kwamashumi amabini.

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Noko ke, inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba
lomntwana onenyanga ezimbini ayikakhuli.

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Kuxhomekeke kwikhuselo lomzimba
likamama. Kwaye eli khuselo libuthathaka.

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Kwaye ngoku inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba womntwana iqala ukukhula.

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Kwaye siyiphambilisela phambili le nto
ngamandla amakhulu kangaka. Ayikholeleki tu.

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Enye ingxaki enkulu kakhulu yeyokuba
ingqondo yalo mntwana ayikakhuli; isakhula.

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Kwaye engqondweni kukho umqobo
okhuselayo, umqobo wegazi nengqondo.

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Ngoko ke, into engena egazini ayinakungena ngqo engqondweni.

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Nangona kunjalo, esi sikhwama
sokukhusela asikakhuli ngoku ebantwaneni.

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Into enikwa umntwana kwaye ingena emzimbeni ngokuphuma
kwegazi, ngaloo ndlela ingena engakhuselekanga engqondweni.

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Ingxaki yeyokuba izitofu zokugonya zizinto
ezikhuthaza amajoni omzimba ezibuthathaka kakhulu.

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Ukuze bakhuthaze ngokwenene inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba,
kufuneka kongezwe ii-adjuvants , ezibangela ukuba

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inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba iqalise ukusebenza kwasekuqaleni.

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Kwaye esi sincedisi kwi-vaccine yi-aluminiyam.

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Umlawuli: Bendicinga ukuba oko
kuqulethwe kuzo zonke izitofu zokugonya?

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Gqirha András Guseo: Izitofu zokugonya zazifudula
zine-mercury, kodwa ngethamsanqa loo nto yavalwa.

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Kodwa kusekho ezinye; isitofu
sokugonya i-hepatitis B sisene-mercury.

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Isitofu sokugonya umkhuhlane sisenokuba sisene-mercury.

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Kwaye le aluminium ingena engqondweni nganye-nganye.

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Kwaye ialuminiyam ivuselelwa kwiiseli
zemithambo-luvo ngumitha we-Wi-Fi okanye weselula.

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Iza kuba ngumamkeli wabo, i-antenna yabo.

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Kwaye oko kudala isiphumo
sombane-magnethi esingaqhelekanga engqondweni.

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Iiseli zemithambo-luvo engqondweni nazo zivelisa
amaza ombane-magnethi, kwaye zonke iiseli emzimbeni

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wam ziyaqonda la mazaza, anika iiseli zam amandla.

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Ukuba ngoku ndibeka lo mzimba kwindawo yamandla ombane-magnethi
kwaye ndiwuchaphazela nge-Wi-Fi – 50 Hz – kunye nezinye

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iintlobo zomitha wefowuni ephathwayo, ke ezi zinto
ziyayiphazamisa imisebenzi yam yangaphakathi yombane-magnethi.

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Kwaye ukuba ndinee-antena engqondweni yam, oko
kuza kuba nefuthe elikhulu kakhulu kwinkqubo yayo

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engundoqo yokulawula, ukusebenza kwayo kweeseli.

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HUNGARY – AKUKHO MNTU UXANDUVELAYO NGOMONAKALO WESITOYIZO

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: EHungary, umthetho ubhalwe ngendlela
yokuba akukho menzi, ugqirha, okanye urhulumente onoxanduva

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lwalo naluphi na umonakalo obangelwe sisitofu sokugonya.

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Isiphumo saloku kukuba ukuba akukho
zohlwayo, akukho mntu uya kuzilandela imithetho.

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Loo nto ngumthetho wendalo!

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Ngenxa yokuba kungekho nguye ugqirha, urhulumente okanye umenzi
wemveliso onoxanduva eHungary, ugqirha akayifezekisi imisebenzi

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yakhe yokwazisa isigulana ngeziphumo zomthamo wokugonya.

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Akasebenzi kwinqanaba elifunekayo
kuba akakafundi ukuba kwenziwa njani.

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Ngoko ke siyalwela abo bachaphazelekileyo abaza
kuthi kuba kufuneka badlule kuvavanyo olunzima.

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Phezu koko, akukho mntu unokubanjwa uxanduva,
ngoko ke sihlala sisilela ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

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Kodwa siyamelana, amatyala ethu ayaqhubeka,
kwaye kufuneka siqale phantsi

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ngokuphindaphindiweyo ukuze sikhulule abantu ekugonyweni.

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ISIGQIBO SOKUZIKHETHELA SOKUGONWA

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ngoko ke
kungakuhle ukuba kwenzeke izinto ezimbini:

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Okokuqala, into elwela yona i-United States of America,
nento elwela yona ulawulo lukaKennedy, oko kukuthi ulawulo

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lukaTrump, kukuphelisa le nto yokungabikho kotyala kwabenzi.

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Oku kufanele kwenziwe naseHungary
ukuze abo baphetheyo bangaphenduli mntu.

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Kwaye ugqirha naye kufuneka aphenduliswe.

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Kuba baya kukhuthazeka kuphela ukuba
bafundise abantu ngeengozi zokugonya ukuba

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banokubanjwa baphendule ngomonakalo abawubangelayo.

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Kwaye enye into yeyokuba, xa lo mthetho ususiwe – apho kungabi
ngugqirha okanye urhulumente onoxanduva lomonakalo obangelwa

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zizitofu zokugonya – ulwazi malunga
neziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zezitofu zokugonya

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nalo luya kudluliselwa kwizigulana nakubazali.

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Ngaphezu koko, ukuba ukugonywa bekukhetho,
besingazukunyanzelwa ukuba sidlule kule meko

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inzima, apho ngokwenene silwela ubomi bantwana bethu.

278
00:25:17,948 --> 00:25:24,302
Umlawuli: Ke, ugqirha kufuneka afunge ukuba
uza kukuphilisa okanye akayi kukwenzakalisa.

279
00:25:26,259 --> 00:25:29,520
Kulungile, masiyihlolisise kancinci loo nto:

280
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,574
Ngoko ke, ukuba ugqirha ufunga isifungo esinje kodwa ke
engaphumeleli nje kuphela ekudluliseleni ulwazi malunga

281
00:25:35,574 --> 00:25:41,519
nokugonya, kodwa akwatyhafa nokwenza iimvavanyo
kwangaphambili ukuze kufunyaniswe ukuba lo mntwana uza kugula

282
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:46,960
kamva na, ngoko ke ufunge isifungo sakhe ngokungenamsebenzi.

283
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,270
Enyanisweni, waphula isifungo sakhe.

284
00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,263
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Asinayo nje
kuphela ityala elinye elinjalo – sinazo ezininzi!

285
00:25:54,263 --> 00:25:58,135
Asibanga ngamangalo nje. Simangalela ngokukodwa oogqirha.

286
00:25:58,135 --> 00:26:03,190
Kuba, nokuba ayenziwa ngolu hlobo, yeyona mthetho eHungary:

287
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:07,845
Ukuba ugqirha ubhala ukuba umntwana
akanakugonywa ngenxa yezizathu zempilo, ngoko

288
00:26:07,845 --> 00:26:11,983
abasemagunyeni kufuneka bamxolele kwimfuneko yokugonywa.

289
00:26:11,983 --> 00:26:19,495
Sinezimeko apho oogqirha ababini noogqirha
abane babhale ukuba umntwana akanakugonywa.

290
00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:25,480
Abazali bayisa le nto kubaphathi, kwaye abaphathi bamisa
umcebisi wamachiza okugonya ekuthiwa nguye – eli liziko

291
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,630
laseHungary – ongazange ambonane nomntwana ngaphambili.

292
00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:37,398
Ngokomzekelo, ngoogqirha ababini abanyanga, okanye ngoogqirha
abane abanyanga elo ntwazana, abanye babo iminyaka

293
00:26:37,398 --> 00:26:47,083
esibhozo, abanye iminyaka emine, baze babhale kumaphepha
aliqela ukuba loo ntwazana ingafa ngenxa yesitofu sokugonya.

294
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:57,326
Umcebisi wokugonya akalijongisi nokulijonga ingane,
ufunda nje iziphumo – ndithetha ngeemeko ezithile –

295
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aze abhale ngemigca emine ukuba ingane ingagonywa.

296
00:27:05,824 --> 00:27:08,480
Umlawuli: Kwaye aba ngoogqirha?

297
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Oogqirha,
oogqirha, oogqirha abaqeqeshwe ngokukhethekileyo.

298
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:21,416
Ngomnye umbuzo: Kaloku, thina sikwamangalela noogqirha
abangakhange banike imivumeleko yokungagonywa kuloo

299
00:27:21,416 --> 00:27:27,204
bantwana banelungelo lokwenene lokukhululwa kolu gonyo.

300
00:27:27,204 --> 00:27:32,348
Kwaye ugqirha wabhala phantsi. Sinezikhalazo ezininzi ezinjalo.

301
00:27:32,348 --> 00:27:38,818
Kwaye oogqirha abaliqela abohlukeneyo babhala besithi xa kuziwa
kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo, abayithatheli ngqalelo

302
00:27:38,818 --> 00:27:43,527
impilontle yomntwana, kodwa endaweni yoko
bathatha umdla woluntu, kwaye lo mntwana kufuneka

303
00:27:43,527 --> 00:27:48,236
agonywe ukuze kufezekiswe ukhuseleko lweqela.

304
00:27:48,236 --> 00:27:51,069
Umlawuli: Kwaye ke akukhathaliseki ukuba umntwana unantoni.

305
00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:54,131
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Oku kwenziwa
kwakhona xa kukho umngcipheko ophezulu kakhulu

306
00:27:54,131 --> 00:27:55,822
wokuba umntwana angafa ngenxa yesi siqhushumbisi.

307
00:27:55,822 --> 00:27:59,824
Kwaye siza kuyifaka loo nto kwingxelo
yesimangalo. Sineemeko ezininzi ezinje.

308
00:27:59,824 --> 00:28:05,391
UKUNYUKA KWINOMBOLO YABANTWANA ABANE-AUTISM

309
00:28:05,391 --> 00:28:10,386
Gqr. András Guseo: I-CDC ipapashe idatha
eyothusayo ebonisa ukuba bangaphi abantwana

310
00:28:10,386 --> 00:28:14,740
abasandul' ukuzalwa e-USA abaza kuba ne-autism.

311
00:28:18,211 --> 00:28:23,781
Ngo-2020, elo nani lalingama-158.

312
00:28:23,781 --> 00:28:29,784
Ukuba sibuyela emva iminyaka eli-15, elo
nani lalingomnye kwishumi elinamawaka.

313
00:28:29,784 --> 00:28:33,280
Umlawuli: Ingaba yi-158 kwi-10,000?

314
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,662
Gqirha András Guseo: Hayi, umntwana omnye
kwabazalwa abali-158 uya kuba ne-autism.

315
00:28:38,662 --> 00:28:44,491
Kwaye kule minyaka idlulileyo, isibalo esisetyenziswayo
esapapashwayo siye sahlala sisihla, kwaye kunyaka ophelileyo

316
00:28:44,491 --> 00:28:48,755
bekukho umntwana omnye one-autism kubazali abasithoba.

317
00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:54,444
Ithrendi iyehla kakhulu – nto leyo ethetha ukuba
kuncipha ngokuya kusiba bambalwa abantwana abangengawo

318
00:28:54,444 --> 00:28:57,701
i-autistic phakathi kwezintsana ezisandul' ukuzalwa.

319
00:28:57,701 --> 00:29:02,598
Kwaye ukuba andiphazami, isiseko
siza kufikelelwa kwiminyaka emibini.

320
00:29:02,598 --> 00:29:09,527
Oku kuthetha ukuba wonke umntwana
ozalelwe eMelika angaba ne-autism.

321
00:29:09,527 --> 00:29:14,656
Gqirha András Guseo: Kubi kakhulu oko.
Ndiyibukele ndisekhaya, kwilizwe lethu.

322
00:29:14,656 --> 00:29:20,373
Kwaye ndingathanda ukukubonisa idatha yamva nje kule chati.

323
00:29:20,373 --> 00:29:27,226
Ibonisa inani labantwana abane-autism abaneminyaka
ephakathi kwe-2 ne-18, abaxeliweyo zizikolo kwilizwe lonke

324
00:29:27,226 --> 00:29:32,372
ekupheleni kukaSeptemba ukusukela ngo-2018 ukuya ku-2024.

325
00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:42,435
Kwaye kubonisa ukuba ukwanda kubaluleke kakhulu,
kufikelela kwi-121% kwisithuba seminyaka esi-7.

326
00:29:44,286 --> 00:29:52,474
Oku kuthetha ukuba inani labantwana
abane-autism ezikolweni liyanda ngomyinge we-17% ngonyaka.

327
00:29:54,465 --> 00:30:00,395
Nikoletta Kertész: Emva koko kwaziswa isitofu sokugonya
i-chickenpox, kunye nesitofu sokugonya i-pneumococcal, apho

328
00:30:00,395 --> 00:30:05,242
kwakusoloko kugonyelwa iintlobo ezili-13
ezahlukeneyo zeentsholongwane ze-pneumococcal – ngoku

329
00:30:05,242 --> 00:30:08,394
sele zizi-20. Kwaye elo nani liyaqhubeka linyuka.

330
00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:14,302
Kwaye ngoku sizibuza ngokungathandabuzekiyo ukuba
kunokwenzeka njani ukuba kubekho abantwana abangakwaziyo

331
00:30:14,302 --> 00:30:17,765
ukuthetha nanamhlanje beseneminyaka emithathu ubudala.

332
00:30:17,765 --> 00:30:23,611
Ngoko ke, kunokwenzeka njani ukuba intsalela yabantwana
ingene kwizikolo zabantwana abancinci ineminyaka emithathu

333
00:30:23,611 --> 00:30:27,155
ubudala, ingakwazi ukuthetha okanye ukusebenzisa ipotala?

334
00:30:27,155 --> 00:30:31,601
Kwaye la bantwana beza kuthi
ngobuninzi kwilizwe lonke – asikho sodwa.

335
00:30:31,601 --> 00:30:35,925
Baza kufakwa kwiinkqubo zokuxhasa ezikhoyo.

336
00:30:35,925 --> 00:30:42,941
Kaloku, akukho lizwe ehlabathini eline iziko
lenkxaso yabucala, iindawo zonyango ezizimeleyo, kunye

337
00:30:42,941 --> 00:30:47,033
nootitshala bezidingo ezizodwa ezininzi kuneHungary.

338
00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:52,753
Oku kubonisa imfuno ephezulu, kwaye asisakwazi
ukwenza iidipozithi – akukho nanye kwezi ziko

339
00:30:52,753 --> 00:30:56,644
enokusenza ezinye iidipozithi. Zininzi nje iicelo kakhulu.

340
00:30:56,644 --> 00:31:03,159
Sisiqhwithi, kungekuphela ngokwenani labantwana abane-autism,
kodwa kananjalo kuba ukuziphatha kwaba bantwana kwahluke

341
00:31:03,159 --> 00:31:08,158
kakhulu ekuziphatheni okusempilweni. Oku akunakusaphikiswa.

342
00:31:08,158 --> 00:31:12,889
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Yiyo loo nto
besisoloko besazisa ukuba iinkundla zivulelekile

343
00:31:12,889 --> 00:31:15,780
eluntwini, ukuze abantu bakwazi ukuya kuzo.

344
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:19,936
Besisoloko simema abantu xa umxhasi evuma.

345
00:31:19,936 --> 00:31:27,326
Utitshala wesikolo samabanga aphakamileyo wakha wathatha
inxaxheba kwityala elinje enkundleni kuba wayeqaphele ukuba

346
00:31:27,326 --> 00:31:34,717
kubantwana abangama-47 ababewenzile uviwo lokungena
kwisikolo samabanga aphakamileyo, abangama-20 babo babenamadinga

347
00:31:34,717 --> 00:31:38,972
okufunda akhethekileyo – uninzi lwabo lwalune-autism.

348
00:31:38,972 --> 00:31:47,356
Asingabo thina, kodwa ngomnye umbutho owabuza amazwe angamalungu
oManyano lwaseYurophu – amazwe apho ukugonya kunganyanzeliswanga

349
00:31:47,356 --> 00:31:53,288
– ukuba kutheni ukugonya kunganyanzeliswanga.

350
00:31:53,288 --> 00:32:02,658
Kwaye baphendula malunga neenkonzo, esesele
sizazi, kungenxa yokuba azihambelani nomgaqo-siseko.

351
00:32:06,413 --> 00:32:12,738
Isizathu sokuba ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kungavumelani
nomgaqo-siseko – kwaye kungavumelani nomgaqo-siseko

352
00:32:12,738 --> 00:32:17,018
kwihlabathi lonke – kukuba ungafa ngenxa yokugonywa.

353
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:20,964
Yinyani leyo. Akunakukhanyelwa.

354
00:32:20,964 --> 00:32:30,203
Ungafa ngenxa yepilisi ye-aspirin; unokufumana i-anaphylaxis
ngayo nayiphi na into. Ngoko ke unokufa ngenxa yayo.

355
00:32:30,203 --> 00:32:37,324
Akumiselwanga ngumgaqo-siseko ukumisela into enokubulala.

356
00:32:37,324 --> 00:32:40,946
Iwaphula ilungelo lobomi.

357
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,116
Kwelinye icala, abantu abazi nto ngayo kuba
ithengiswa njengoxanduva kwaye izitofu zokugonya

358
00:32:48,116 --> 00:32:54,050
zisenokuba zilungile kuphela kwaye awunako ukufa ngazo.

359
00:32:54,050 --> 00:33:02,695
Ukongeza kutshintsho emthethweni, kufuneka kubekho
naphakathi iphulo lokwazisa ukuze kutyhutyhwe abantu.

360
00:33:04,764 --> 00:33:13,879
Ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kufuneka kupheliswe kwaye
abantu kufuneka baziswe ngeenzuzo, iingxaki, iingozi, njl.njl.

361
00:33:13,879 --> 00:33:20,476
zokugonywa – ngoogqirha, amajelo eendaba kunye norhulumente.

362
00:33:20,476 --> 00:33:27,162
Gqr. András Guseo: Emva koko, ukuba ujonga imihla yethu
yanamhlanje, i-CDC, esele siyikhankanyile izihlandlo eziliqela,

363
00:33:27,162 --> 00:33:31,937
iZiko lase-US lokuLawula iziZifo, oko
kukuthi, igunya laseMelika lezifundo zokunwenwa

364
00:33:31,937 --> 00:33:35,278
kwezifo, ikwangumthengisi wezitofu zokugonya.

365
00:33:35,278 --> 00:33:41,095
Ngoko ke inobudlelwane obuthe ngqo nabavelisi begonyo,
kwaye kuluncedo kubo ukuzisa iintlobo ezininzi

366
00:33:41,095 --> 00:33:45,196
zegalelo kangangoko kunokwenzeka kwimarike. Loo nto icacile.

367
00:33:45,196 --> 00:33:52,110
Ingxaki enkulu yeyokuba xa ndandiqala umsebenzi wam kwiminyaka
engama-60 eyadlulayo ndaza ndenza uviwo lwam

368
00:33:52,110 --> 00:34:00,144
lobuchwepheshe kwi-neurology nakwi-psychiatry, ingqikelelo
ye-autoimmunity yayikho, kodwa yayingadityaniswanga nezifo.

369
00:34:00,144 --> 00:34:04,321
Bendingazange ndive nge-autism, kwaye sasingafundanga nto ngayo.

370
00:34:04,321 --> 00:34:07,455
Namhlanje, zombini ezi ntlobo zezifo ziyanda.

371
00:34:07,455 --> 00:34:13,673
Kulungile, apha ungabona ukwanda, kwaye
singathetha ngobhubhane kule namhlanje, kuba akukho

372
00:34:13,673 --> 00:34:17,582
ndlu ingenaso isifo se-autoimmune ekufutshane nayo.

373
00:34:17,582 --> 00:34:25,789
Akukho ndlu inomntwana one-autism okanye
onengxaki yokuziphatha, ongahlala kufutshane nayo.

374
00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:32,978
I-mainstream ayivumeli naziphi na iziphikisana

375
00:34:32,978 --> 00:34:38,474
Gqr. András Guseo: Nto le nto ndingathanda
ukuyithetha yeyokuba akukho phando lusemthethweni malunga

376
00:34:38,474 --> 00:34:43,161
nokugonywa olujongene neziphumo zokugonywa zexesha elide.

377
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,708
Kwenzeka ntoni kubantu abagonyiweyo
emva kweminyaka eli-10, eli-20, neli-30?

378
00:34:53,241 --> 00:34:57,869
E-United States, kukho uphando olubizwa
ngokuba yi-VAERS , oluphonononge abantu

379
00:34:57,869 --> 00:35:02,394
abangama-35,000 abagonyiweyo nabangagonywanga.

380
00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:07,838
Kwavela ukuba abo babehlatywe isitofu babegula kakhulu,
baneentlobo ezininzi zezifo ezingqinisisiweyo,

381
00:35:07,838 --> 00:35:14,622
baya kugqirha rhoqo kunabo babengahlatywanga,
kwaye abo babengahlatywanga babesempilweni ngakumbi.

382
00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:29,596
Kodwa abantu abafuni ukuthetha ngayo, yiyo loo nto
eneneni kungekho datha ngayo, kwaye yeyona ngxaki inkulu:

383
00:35:29,596 --> 00:35:36,468
INzululwazi namhlanje inelawulo elikhulu phezu kweempapasho
zenzululwazi kangangokuba, ukuba umntu ufuna ukubhala

384
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:41,739
into engahambelaniyo nengcinga eqhelekileyo, ayizukupapashwa.

385
00:35:47,382 --> 00:35:53,910
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Kwaye enye into ebaluleke kakhulu
ethethwe ngu-András, kuba kukho oogqirha, nangona bebambalwa

386
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:59,260
kakhulu, abanobuganga bokubhala ukuba umntwana akanakugonywa.

387
00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:07,664
Kwaye inkonzo yezempilo yoluntu iqalisa amanyathelo
ngokuchasene nooGqirha aba ngenxa yokuba babhale lonto.

388
00:36:07,664 --> 00:36:10,384
Kakade ke, ayibekwa ngolo hlobo.

389
00:36:10,384 --> 00:36:16,678
Ezinye iingcali zonyango ezibandakanyekileyo zifumana nje
umnxeba ozibxelela ukuba mazingaphindi zikwenze kwakhona.

390
00:36:16,678 --> 00:36:24,504
Ngokuchasene nabanye, iinkqubo
ezisemthethweni ziqaliswa ngezizathu ezahlukeneyo.

391
00:36:24,504 --> 00:36:32,416
Kwaye ukuze abantu bazi imithetho: ukuba abasemagunyeni
kwezempilo bafumana ukwaphulwa komthetho – kwaye oku kusebenza

392
00:36:32,416 --> 00:36:39,725
nakubantu abazimeleyo nkqu nakubazali abangabavaxi abantwana babo
– banokuhlawuliswa phakathi kwe-30,000 ne-5

393
00:36:39,725 --> 00:36:48,132
lezigidi zeforinti , kwaye oku kunokuphindwa-phindwa
kwizihlandlo ezininzi kwakho kwaphulwa ngakunye.

394
00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:58,952
Uninzi lweegqirha ngoko ke lunokulindela ukuphindiselwa, nokuba
bayavuma okanye bayixela impembelelo engathandekiyo ngomlomo.

395
00:37:00,838 --> 00:37:05,106
Mlawuli: Ingaba oko kuza kutshintsha?
Ingaba le nto besiyixoxa iza kutshintsha? Sele

396
00:37:05,106 --> 00:37:08,889
uneminyaka eliqela ubandakanyekile, akunjalo?

397
00:37:08,889 --> 00:37:12,701
Gqr. András Guseo: Siyathemba
ukuba kuza kubakho utshintsho. Sizame.

398
00:37:12,701 --> 00:37:20,319
Kwathuba elimalunga neenyanga ezintandathu ezidlulileyo,
samema abameli abaphambili beli candelo kwintlanganiso ukuze

399
00:37:20,319 --> 00:37:25,065
sixoxe ngalo mba, sive izimvo zabo size sinikezele ngezemathu.

400
00:37:25,065 --> 00:37:27,180
Kodwa yayifana nesigqubuthelo sentsimbi:

401
00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:33,435
Akubangakho mntu weza, kwaye emva koko, kwinkomfa
noonondaba ebesimenyele kuyo abameli abangama-40

402
00:37:33,435 --> 00:37:37,457
babezindaba, kwalandela isigqubuthelo esifanayo sentsimbi.

403
00:37:37,457 --> 00:37:40,943
Ngoko ke akukho ncoko.

404
00:37:40,943 --> 00:37:45,099
Ngoko ke, utshintsho lungenzeka njani?

405
00:37:45,099 --> 00:37:50,398
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ke,
uAndrás uthe akukho mntu wamkela izimemo.

406
00:37:52,816 --> 00:37:59,620
Banyanzelisa ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kwaye...
IHungary ngokwenene kuphela ilizwe ehlabathini apho

407
00:37:59,620 --> 00:38:06,353
kukho olu hlobo lwekhoboka lokugonywa. Ndikujongile oku.

408
00:38:06,353 --> 00:38:11,642
Kuphela umntwana omnye kwisithili esincinci oyifumeneyo inxaso.

409
00:38:11,642 --> 00:38:18,643
Siyalwa, kwaye sifikelele kwinqanaba lokuba, enkundleni,
kwityala, emva kokuphulukana netyala, sivakalelwa

410
00:38:18,643 --> 00:38:25,627
kukuba siphulukana nazo zonke iityala zethu.
Ngaphandle kobungqina esinabo bokuxhasa ityala lethu.

411
00:38:25,627 --> 00:38:33,543
Kwaye umgwebi, esele ezisola, uthi akukho ngxaki,
singaphinda singenise isicelo sokukhululwa kugonyo.

412
00:38:33,543 --> 00:38:35,683
Kwaye yonke into iqala kwakhona.

413
00:38:35,683 --> 00:38:38,316
Eli asilolona uluvo lwejaji enye
kuphela, kodwa lolwejaji ezininzi.

414
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:41,826
Ngoko ke siqala iinkqubo
ngokuphindaphindiweyo, siphinde siphinde.

415
00:38:41,826 --> 00:38:46,740
Abanye abantwana bagcinwa bephila ngale ndlela.

416
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:51,862
Lonke uhlelo lwezomthetho luyilwe ngendlela yokuba
kuye kwanyanzeleka ukuba sizenzele isikhewu somthetho –

417
00:38:51,862 --> 00:38:55,284
luhlobo lomatshini oqhubeka usebenza ngokungapheliyo.

418
00:38:55,284 --> 00:39:00,375
Ukuba asikwazi ukwenza umntwana akhululwe kwisitofu
sokugonya, sifuna ubuncinci ukuba inkqubo

419
00:39:00,375 --> 00:39:03,824
yokukhululwa iqhubeke ixesha elide kangangoko kunokwenzeka.

420
00:39:03,824 --> 00:39:10,608
Kuba logama oku kusenzeka, abanakusibeka
isohlwayo okanye bathathe umntwana baye kumgonyela.

421
00:39:10,608 --> 00:39:13,839
Yiloo nto esisoloko siyiphinda.

422
00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:22,666
Kwaye kukho enye into ebalulekileyo ekufuneka
ithethwe ngamanyathelo athathwe ngokuchasene nathi.

423
00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:26,064
Singamagqwetha amathathu asebenza kwezi zityholo.

424
00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:33,248
Kwaye sonke thathu sibizwa ngokuba ngabachasi
bokugonya kwaye kuthiwa singingozi eluntwini.

425
00:39:33,248 --> 00:39:39,155
Baqalisa iinkqubo zentswela-bulumko ngakuthi – kwaye ukuba
ngenxa yoko siphulukana nobulungu bethu kwi-Bar Association,

426
00:39:39,155 --> 00:39:42,968
asisayi kuphinda sivunyelwe ukuba sisebenze njengamagqwetha.

427
00:39:42,968 --> 00:39:45,761
Omnye wogxa bam ukhululwe kule nto.

428
00:39:45,761 --> 00:39:52,448
Kukho inkqubo yentshilelo em ndijongileyo ngenxa yokuba ndingumntu
ochasene neentlobo ezibambiweyo, onobungozi eluntwini.

429
00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:58,471
Kwaye iinkqubo zentsimeko nazo
ziyaqhubeka ngakwelinye iqabane. Ngoko ke...

430
00:39:58,471 --> 00:40:03,742
Umlawuli: Xa ndithetha ngezihloko ezinjalo kwiividiyo
zam, ndisoloko ndisithi akunyanzelekanga ukuba undikholelwe.

431
00:40:03,742 --> 00:40:07,546
Ndithi: khangela uze wenze eyakho ingqikelelo.

432
00:40:07,546 --> 00:40:09,652
Lo ngumbuzo wolwazi.

433
00:40:09,652 --> 00:40:16,550
Kwaye ngolwazi oluninzi kangaka, njengoku kule
dliwano-ndlebe, abantu bangaqalisa kwi-intanethi.

434
00:40:18,524 --> 00:40:19,668
Umlawuli: Enkosi kakhulu!