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E-Hungary, zininzi iingxaki zempilo phakathi kweentsana,
abantwana, abakwishumi elivisayo, kwanabantu abadala.

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Umgangatho olinganiselweyo wokuqhagamshelana kwezi zenzakalo
nokugonywa kwangaphambili kuxoxwa ngako kudliwano-ndlebe

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olulandelayo nogqirha kunye negqwetha elisuka eHungary,
kunye nomama ochaphazelekileyo ngulo mba onabantwana

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abathathu abazalwa bempilile kodwa ngoku banokukhubazeka.

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Ngokophononongo lwabo, inani labantwana abafunyaniswe
bene-autism emva kokugonywa lonyuke kakhulu eHungary.

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Iinzame ezininzi zaseHungary ziyakhathalela la bantwana,
zibaxhasa – okanye zilwa kunye nabazali babo ukuqinisekisa ukuba

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ukugonya abantwana okunyanzelekileyo akusanyanzelwanga eHungary.

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Ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo? Ngaba
ukugonywa kunyanzelekile ngokwenene eHungary?

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Enyanisweni, ugonyo lokuqala olunyanzelekileyo
lwaziswa eHungary kwangoko ngowe-1876, laza

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amanye alulandela ngowe-1954 nangeeminyaka yoo-1960.

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Namhlanje, zonke iintsana ezisandul' ukuzalwa eHungary zifakhelwa
isifo sephepha ngaphandle kokuba abazali bazo babuzwe kuqala.

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Ngo-1997 nango-1998, iSebe lezeMpilo laseHungary
lasungula imithetho yezempilo eyazisa unyango

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lokugonya olongezelelweyo nxamnye nezifo ezininzi.

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Okwangoku, abantwana baseHungary bagonywa ngokugonywa okuninzi
okunobungozi nxamnye nediphtheria, umkhuhlane

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wokukrakra, itetanasi, ipoliyo kunye neHaemophilus
influenzae type b kwiinyanga zobudala eziyi-2, 3, 4 ne-18.

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Ukongeza, izitofu zokugonya ze-pneumococcal
zinikwa kwiinyanga ezi-2, ezi-4 nezi-12 zobudala.

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Umthamo wokugonya odibanisayo wemichuno, i-mumps kunye ne-rubella
unikezelwa xa umntwana eneenwaka ezili-15 ubudala,

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kwaye umthamo wokugonya i-chickenpox unikezelwa
kwiintsana ezinenyanga ezili-13 nezili-16 ubudala.

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Abazali baseHungary kunzima kakhulu ukuba bakhulule abantwana
babo kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo, nokuba sele kukho

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umntwana kusapho owonakele kakhulu empilweni emva kokugonywa.

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Xa abantwana beqala ukuya kwi-daycare nakwizikolo zabantwana
abancinci, abongikazi bezonyango lwabantwana kunye

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nabalekisi ababakhathalele ukusukela ekuzalweni
banyanzelekile ukuba bajonge imeko yabo yokugonywa.

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Esikolweni, kukho ukugonywa ngobuninzi kweeklasi zizonke.

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Ukuba abazali bayala ukuba umntwana wabo abhiyozwe,
ugqirha wesikolo kufuneka axele oku kubaphathi bezempilo.

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Xa kukho amathandabuzo, oku kunokubangela
izohlwayo ezinkulu nokugxothwa esikolweni.

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Isigwebo sika-2019 sade savumela ukuba
abantwana abangagonywanga bakhutshwe kubazali babo.

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Kudliwano-ndlebe, ugqirha waseHungary ugxininisa ukuba ezinye
izinto nazo zinokuba negalelo ekunyukeni kwezinga

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lokosuleleka kwezifo kubantwana, njengengxaki yehlabathi
jikelele yokutya okuguqulwe kakhulu nokungeyokwemvelo.

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Nangona kunjalo, kucacisiwe ngokucacileyo ukuba izifo
ze-autoimmune, ukudumba, ukulibaziseka kuphuhliso, i-autism kunye

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nosulelo oluninzi olutsha zihlala zenzeka emva kokugonywa.

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Abatshantliziyo abathathu abathethe nathi ke ngoko baphikisana
ukuqinisekisa ukuba abavelisi begonyo bayaphenduliseka ngomonakalo

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ogonyo, kwaye oogqirha abagonyayo bayayifezekisa imisebenzi yabo
yokwazisa izigulana ngeziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya.

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Ukongeza, ukuvavanywa kwezinga lama-antibody kufuneka kwenziwe
ngokukhawuleza phambi kokugonywa okongezelelweyo

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okucwangcisiweyo, ukuze kuthintelwe ukusebenza
ngokugqithisileyo kwenkqubo yokuzikhusela komzimba kunye

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nomngcipheko osisiphumo sesifo sokuhlasela izicubu zomzimba.

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Ukongeza, oogqirha akufanelanga basohlwaywe ngenxa
yokukhupha izatifikethi zokukhululwa kugonyo, umzekelo

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ngokuqalisa amatyala asemthethweni ngokuchasene nabo.

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Ngokubanzi, ukugonya kufuneka kwenziwe kuphela ngokuzithandela –
oku kukwafunwa ngabazali baseJamani abafuna

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ukukhusela abantwana babo kwiziphumo
ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya i-measles okufunekayo apha.

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Le dliwano-ndlebe echukumisayo ibonisa ukuba
naseHungary – ekuye yaba yindawo ethandwayo

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ngabaphambukeli – ayizizo zonke izinto ezihamba kakuhle.

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Ngenxa yeziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zokugonya eziya zibonakala
ngakumbi – jonga kwakhona iimeko ezininzi zomonakalo obangelwe

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ziivaksini ze-coronavirus – kunye notshintsho oluqhubekayo
olusingisa kwiivaksini eziyingozi ze-mRNA kuzo zonke iivaksini,

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isimo sokuba ukugonya kunganyanzeliswa kodwa kusenziwe
ngokuzithandela, esifunwa ngabantu abaninzi, sisahleli

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siyindaba ebaluleke kakhulu kwabanye abachaphazelekayo.

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Udliwano-ndlebe: UKWAZISA AMAQABANE ZODLIWANO-NDLEBE

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Umququzeleli (Dániel István): Malunga emva kwemini,
ndamkela nonke ngothando nentlonipho enkulu.

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Iindwendwe zethu namhlanje ngu-András, u-Angelika no-Niki.

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Gqr András Guseo: NdingunguGqr András Guseo, ugqirha
wemithambo-luvo, ugqirha wengqondo, umphandi wamalungu

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emithambo-luvo, ingcali yezifundo zengqondo-mithambo-luvo-nkqubo
yokhuselo lomzimba, umhlohli woxinzelelo kunye nogqirha wophando.

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Njengelungu le-Akademi yeeNzululwazi yaseHungary,
bendithatha inxaxheba kuphando iminyaka engama-65.

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Imiba yam ephambili yophando yizifo zokuzikhusela komzimba, kwaye
kutshanje, i-autism njengomcimbi wezifo zokuzikhusela komzimba.

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ndingo Angelika Mihalik, ndingummeli.

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Ndibuyele kumsebenzi wezomthetho kwiinyanga
ezili-18 ezidlulileyo – ndandikhe ndawushiya ngaphambili

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kuba ndandingafuni kuba ngusolicitor okanye igqwetha.

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Yiloo nto ndafumana isidanga sokuguqulela kwezobuchwepheshe.
Ndandisazi isiNgesi kwaye ndafunda ukuguqulela

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kwezobuchwepheshe xa ndayeka umsebenzi wam wezomthetho.

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Ukusukela ngo-2019, bendiguqulela amanqaku
ezonyango anxulumene ne-Covid, izitofu zokugonya

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ze-Covid, kunye nezifundo eziphambili zeezonyango.

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Kwaye njengoko ndandiyiphanda, ndafumana amanqaku obuchwepheshe
neengxaki ezinxulumene nokugonya kwesiqhelo, kwaye kulapho ke

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ndabona khona into eyenzekayo ngokwenene ngokugonya kwesiqhelo.

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Kwafika kwinqanaba apho umntu endandimguqulela wabhalela
umyalezo kuMessenger esithi sidinga uKennedy waseHungary , ngoko

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ke ndagqiba kwelokuba ndibuyele ekusebenzeni njengegqwetha.

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Andithethi oku ngenxa yokuzidla, kodwa
kungenxa yokuba yiyo leyo nto kanye ebangele oku.

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Kwaye uNiki naye waba negalelo ekundenza ndaqonda
ukuba bekukho ingxaki kuba bekukho iziphumo ebezingalindelekanga

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ezivela kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo.

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UNiki wandibonisa ubunzulu bale ngxaki
inkulu ngokundimema kwisidlo somndeni

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endlwini yakhe, apho bekukho iindwendwe ezininzi.

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Baza nabantwana abane okanye abahlanu
abane-autism, ndaza ndabona ubunzima bengxaki.

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Ezi zizathu zimbini zandikhokelela
ekubuyeleni kwam kumsebenzi wezomthetho.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke sidinga uKennedy
waseHungary, masithi. Ewe, Niki? Qhubeka.

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Nikoletta Kertész: NdinguNikoletta
Kertész, endaziwa kakhulu njengoNiki Kertész.

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Ndinabantwana abathathu, bonke
abathathu baye bonzakaliswa kukugonywa.

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Lo mfo oneminyaka engama-24 ubudala waba
nakhubazeko olukhulu lwengqondo, une-epilepsi

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kwaye watshayelwa utyando lwengqondo ngenxa yoko.

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Omnye wamawele am asemtshatweni wam wesibini waba ngumntu
ongenakuthetha, onakwengqondo kwaye one-autism emva

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kokufumana isitofu sokugonya i-MMR eneminyaka eyi-15 yeenyanga.

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Umntakwabo wemilingane unezifo ezimandla
zokungahambelani nokutya kunye nokudumba kwemijelo

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yokwetyisa, kodwa yena wasinda engonakaliswanga engqondweni.

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Ndakhangela ndaza ndaphanda izizathu, kuba umntu
angacinga ukuba awunakunyathela kumlambo ophindwe kabini, kodwa

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unokunyathela kumlambo we-autoimmunity kangangoko uthanda.

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Ngoko ke, xa kuziwa emcimbini, ndaqaphela ukuba kukho
into engalunganga ngamawele, ndaza ndaqalisa

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ukuphanda, kwaye ndiza kunixelela apha into endiyifumanisileyo.

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Kwiminyaka elishumi eyadlulayo, ndaseka iqela
likaFacebook elithi "Autism Never Again" kunye nenkqubo yonyango

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endayiphuhlisayo esekelwe kwisondlo kunye nolunye unyango.

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Sincede amawaka abantu eqeleni ukuba banciphise iimpawu
zabo ze-autistic ne-ADHD – kwanaphaya kwemida yeqela.

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Abanye abantwana baye
baxhadathiswa nokuxilongwa kwabo kwe-autism.

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UKUGONWA OKUNYANZELWEYO KWIHlabathi jikelele

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Umlawuli: Ingaba abantwana baseHungary bafumana
izitofu zokugonya ezifana nezo, umzekelo, zaseAfrika?

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Ingaba imikhwa yokugonya iyafana
kwihlabathi lonke, okanye kukho umahluko?

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Gqr. András Guseo: Iindlela zokugonya
ziyahluka ukusuka kwelinye ilizwe ukuya kwelinye.

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Kumazwe ali-18 kwangama-30 aseYurophu, ukugonywa
akunyanzelekanga, okanye ukuba kunyanzelekile, kuba kukugonywa

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okukodwa okanye okubini kuphela –
ngokukodwa nxamnye nezo ntlungelo zithathwa

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njengoyena nobangela mkhulu wengozi kwelo lizwe.

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Zonke ezinye izitofu zokugonya zikhethekile.

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NGXABANO YOMTHETHO: UKUNGENAKHO KOLWAZI NGOKUGONWA KWABAZALI

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Umlawuli: Kulungile, Angelika, ndinombuzo kuwe:

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Xa abazali bezisa umntwana wabo kwidinga lokugonywa
– apha sithetha ngokugonywa okunyanzelekileyo –

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yeyiphi inkcazelo abayifumanayo abazali ngolu gonyo?

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Ngaba lo ngumbuzo obuthathaka?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Okwangoku
sinamatyala enkundla angangathi i-150.

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Abathengi bethu ubukhulu becala ngabantwana
abonzakeleyo; ngabo abangundoqo, kwaye

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sithatha amanyathelo asemthethweni egameni labo.

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Kwaye uninzi lwabo ngokwalo lwenzakele
kakhulu okanye kancinci sisitofu sokugonya.

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Okanye beze kuthi kuba umntu wabo wenzakele
kakhulu ngenxa yokugonywa okanye wasweleka.

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Kwaye ngelishwa, oogqirha abafundiswa
ngokwaneleyo okanye ngokweenkcukacha ezaneleyo eyunivesithi.

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Amakhosi okuqeqesha akafundisi ngemijovo yokugonya okanye indlela
esebenza ngayo, kodwa afundisa kuphela

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iinkcukacha-manani malunga nokuba kutheni imijovo
yokugonya ilungile, yeyiphi ekhoyo, njalo njalo.

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Ngoko ke oogqirha banolwazi oluncinci
kakhulu oluyinyani malunga neentsholongwane.

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Ngelishwa. Kwaye kananjalo malunga
nendlela ezisebenza ngayo izitofu zokugonya.

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Yiyo loo nto ke nabazali ngokucacileyo abazisiwayo.

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ABAZALI BAYAZISWA NJANI? – UMTHETHO WANGO-1997 –
ZINGKANANI IZITOFO EZIKHAYO? – UKUPHELELA KWESITOFO

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Umlawuli: Ngaba abazali bafumana iphepha
lolwazi xa abantwana babo kufuneka bagonywe?

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Ngoko ke, ileta enolwazi malunga
nokuba kuza kwenzeka ntoni ngomntwana?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Uza kufumana iphepha
le-A4 elichaza ukuba le ntlawulo yeyentoni.

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Mlawuli: Uyakufumana oko emva kokugonywa?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Hayi, phambi
kokugonywa. Yiloo nto umntwana agoduka nayo.

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Kodwa ndiza kukhankanya umzekelo omnye
obaluleke kakhulu, isitofu sokugonya i-MMR .

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I-MMR inayo irubella, kwaye iyosulela.

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Imiyalelo ithi kuyingozi kubafazi abakhulelweyo.

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Lo ngumzekelo ochanekileyo
kakhulu. Awufakwanga kwiphepha lolwazi.

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Ugqirha wesikolo ubeka abantwana
emgceni, kodwa akathethi nto kubo.

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Konke kulungile ngoku ekubeni eli
phepha lenkcazelo linikwe abazali.

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Abantwana bemi ngomgca, akababuzi namnye kubo:
Ingaba umama wakho ukhulelwe? Ingaba udadewenu ukhulelwe?

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Lo ngumzekelo ochanekileyo kakhulu.

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Kukho imeko ethile yokosulelwa ngumntwana okwasemathunjini
kulandela ukugonywa kwesizalwana somntwana ongazalwanga.

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Ngoko ke yileyo icala elimnyama, njengoko ubeke.

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Abantu abayifumani inkcazelo eyaneleyo.

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Umlawuli: Ingaba umthetho
waseHungary uthi abazali kufuneka baziswe?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.
Umququzeleli: Leliphi elo mthetho, kwaye wapasiswa nini?

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Leyo yiMthetho wezeMpilo ka-1997.

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Umlawuli: Ngoku sibhala u-2025? Gqr. Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.

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Umlawuli: Sele kuliminyaka eliqela
eyadlulayo ngoku! Kwaye akukho mntu ukhe wayijonga

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ukusukela ngoko? Gqr. Angelika Mihalik: Hayi.

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Umlawuli: Kwaye zingaphi iinjongo
ezongezelelweyo eziye zanikezelwa ukusukela ngo-1997?

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Nikoletta Kertész: ukusukela ngo-97, ndicinga ukuba kusenokubakho
ezinye ezilishumi. Ngokuqinisekileyo zikho ezinye ezilishumi.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke kukho malunga ne-10
ezinye iintlawulo ezinyanzelekileyo.

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Kodwa umthetho weminyaka yoo-1990 awuzange
uphononongwe. Nikoletta Kertész: Kunjalo.

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AMAPHULOMPHANDA OKUGONWA = UKUGONWA OKUNYANZELWEYO EZIKOLWENI

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Nikoletta Kertész: Ugonyo lwangaphambi kwesikolo lwabantwana
abaneminyaka ephakathi kwe-0 ne-6 lwenziwa ngendlela yokuba

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abazali bathathe nje abantwana babo baya kugqirha
wabantwana izihlandlo ezili-12, oko kukuthi, kugqirha wabo

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wosapho wabantwana, obazisa ngokufutshane aze abagonyele apho.

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Inyathelo elilandelayo kukugonyelwa esikolweni.

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Zibizwa ngokuba ngamaphulo okugonya.

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Umlawuli: Yintoni iphulo lokugonya?

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Nikoletta Kertész: Isizathu sokuba le
ngcamango ibizwe ngaloo ndlela ngumbuzo olungileyo.

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Ngokwesiseko, kuthetha ukuba esikolweni, abantwana bebanga
elithile bakhokelwa njengeegusha baye kugqirha wesikolo,

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kuqalwa ngabo bonke abantwana bebanga lesithandathu, umzekelo.

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Iklasi 6a kwisigaba sokuqala, iklasi 6b kwisigaba
sesibini, iklasi 6c kwisigaba sesithathu. Emva koko 7a, 7b, 7c.

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Kwaye konke oku ngosuku olunye, njengephulo lokuthengisa
okanye iphulo lezopolitiko okanye iphulo leentengiso,

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ukuze bonke abafundi bafumane esi siqholo ngaxeshanye.

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Yiyo loo nto ikwabizwa ngokuba yiphulo lokugonya eHungary.

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke loo nto inyanzelekile.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kuyanyanzeleka, ewe. Ngoko ke kukho izitofu
zokugonya ezinikwa ngoogqirha bezingane kunye nezitofu zesikolo

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ezicwangciswa esikolweni ukuze onke abantwana babe kwindawo enye.

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Oko kwenza kube lula ukugonya wonke
umntu ngaloo mini, kwaye ke ube ugqibile.

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Abazali akufuneki bazise abantwana babo kugqirha ngokwabo, kwaye
akukho mfuneko yokuba abasemagunyeni

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bajonge emva koko ukuba ngubani owenziwe isitofu
sokugonya nongubani ongakhange asifumane.

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ICWECHE LOLWAZI NGOKUGONWA

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: Nikoletta Kertész: Yonke imithi
nesitofu sokugonya iza nencwadana yezikhokelo.

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Olu xwebhu lweenkcukacha, olufakwe
kwipakethe, alufani ncam nolo lukhutshwe ngumenzi.

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Ngoko ke, kukho incwadana yeziyobisi ekhutshwe
ngumenzi, kwaye kukho enye efunyanwa ngugqirha.

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Kukho isindululo, oko kukuthi, ulwazi olufutshane olufanele
lwanele abazali, kwaye ke kukho isicatshulwa esifutshane kakhulu

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abazali abacelwa ukuba basityikitye, esichaza nje, umzekelo,
ukuba ugonyo lunokubangela umkhuhlane nokubabomvu kolusu.

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Maxa wambi, ndiye ndabona bebhala ukuba inokubangela
isiyezi okanye ukugabha. Kodwa oko kunqabile kakhulu.

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Ezi ziimpawu ze-anaphylaxis .

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Kodwa ndibone nje le ncinci yolwazi.

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Ngoko ke lolo ulwazi esilufumanayo thina
bazali; abazali abaliqela balungqinile oku kum.

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ZININZI IINTSULU EZINTSHA NGENXA YOKUCHITHA
KWEENTSHULU EMVA KOKUGONYWA, UMZEKELO I-UKRAINE

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Umlawuli: Ngoko ke... ukuba baqala eli phulo lokugonya apha,
ukuba bagonya abantwana abaninzi kangaka, ingaba kuza kubakho

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into efana nokusasazeka kwegciwane elivela
kwisitofu – ngamanye amazwi, ingaba kuza kubakho usulelo

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oluninzi olutsha kamsinya nje emva kokugonya oku?

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Gqr. András Guseo: Ngokomgaqo, oko kunokwenzeka.

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Ubomi bunike umzekelo obubalaseleyo woku,
njengoko kwafunyaniswa e-Ukraine ukuba izinga

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lokugonywa ngomthubi-gonyamelo lalingaphantsi kwe-35%.

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I-WHO ne-UNICEF zayibona le nto, yaye, ukuze "bancede" i-Ukraine
ekoyiseni le "meeko yentlekele" yokuba abantu, ingakumbi

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abantwana, bangagonywanga ngokupheleleyo,
bayinike i-Ukraine izitofu zokugonya baza

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baqhuba iphulo lokugonya ngendlela efanayo.

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Isiphumo: Ngezinga lokugonya langaphambili eliyi-35%, bekubakho
izifo zomkhuhlane wengane eziphakathi kwama-60 nama-70 ngonyaka.

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Kodwa hayi kwiminyaka emininzi ngoku.

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Emva kokuba kuphehlelelwe iphulo lokugonya, kwabakho izifo
zomkhuhlane wamakhwenkwezi ezili-12,000 kwiinyanga

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ezimbini, apho izi-9,000 zazo zafuna ukulaliswa esibhedlele
kwaye i-1,600 yazibangela umkhuhlane wamakhwenkwezi omandundu.

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Ngoko ke oku kubonisa le nto besithetha ngayo
ngaphambili, yokuba abantu abagonyiweyo banokosulela abanye.

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UVIDO LWEEMVAVANYYO ZOMTHAMO WAMACHA
KUNYE NOKWANDISWA OKUGQITHISILEYO KWAMACHA

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Gqr. András Guseo: Ngoko ke, khange kubekho zosulelo lwe-measles
e-Ukraine, kodwa xa baqala ukugonya ngesitofu esiphilayo, abantu

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abagonyiweyo basasaza isifo kwaye kwabakho ubhubhane omandundu.

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Ngoko ke yingxaki enkulu leyo.

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Enye into yeyokuba olu phulo lokugonya aluthatheli ngqalelo
kuphela ukuba kukho umntu okhulelweyo usapho,

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kodwa kananjalo nokuba umntu oza kugonywa sele
eneesisithinteli-mzimba ezichasene nesitofu u-X.

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Ngamanye amazwi, inani le-antibodies
elinokulinganiswa, i-antibody titre.

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Gqirha András Guseo: Kuba ukuba unamanqanaba ezokontra
aphezulu ngokwaneleyo, awuyidingi isitofu sokugonya.

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Yiloo nto ebhaliweyo kumaphepha esiphakethi.
Ewe. Kodwa loo nto ayikaze iphantsi kwephando.

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Kwaye kwiimeko ezininzi ezifune ungeno lwezomthetho,
amanqanaba e-antibody alinganiswa, kwaye ayephakamele kakhulu.

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Ukuba usebenzisa isitofu sokugonya umkhuhlane kwinqanaba
eliphezulu kangaka, udala ukhuseleko olugqithisileyo,

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kwaye ingozi yokhuseleko olugqithisileyo kukuba ludala
imeko efanelekileyo yokukhula kwezifo zokuhlasela umzimba.

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Kwaye xa inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba
ityhalelwe ngokugqithisileyo, oko kukuthi xa ivuswe

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ngokugqithisileyo, ikhokiswa lula kakhulu.

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Zombini, usulelo lwe-measles kunye nesitofu sokugonya, zivuselela
umzimba ukuba uvelise izilwa-mzimba ezichasene

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neprotheyini yesiseko se-myelin engqondweni, kwaye
ukusukela ngoko, umzimba ukwimeko yokuzihlasela.

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Oko akuthethi ukuba uza kugula kwangoko –
kunokwenzeka kwakhona emva konyaka omnye, emibini,

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emihlanu, elishumi okanye elishumi elinesihlanu.

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Kuba ke, xa inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba ifumana enye yezi
zikhulisi, nokuba kungenxa yesitofu sokugonya, olunye usulelo

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lwe-virus, ezinye izinto zangaphandle,
uxinzelelo, njl.njl., inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba iqalisa

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uhlaselo lwe-autoimmune kwinkqubo yemithambo-luvo.

18:46.775 --> 18:52.181
UXANDUVO LOMVELISI, I-ANTENNA YE-ALUMINIYAM

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Gqirha András Guseo: Ukusukela ekuphasisweni
koMthetho ka-1986, akukho nyanzeliso

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kumvelisi yokuvavanya ngokwaneleyo isitofu sokugonya.

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Uphononongo olungakhethi, olungabonisi macala omabini, nolawulwa
nge-placebo, uphando olwenziwa kwiiziko ezininzi, oluthatha

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iminyaka emibini, njengoko kufuneka ngokwenene kuzo
zonke iyeza kweli shishini, aluzange lwenziwe kwizitofu

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zokugonya. Akukaze kwenziwe nakwisitofu esinye sokugonya.

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Akufuneki ukhangele kude ufumane imizekelo.

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Eyona mzekelo ilungileyo
yobhubhane wamva nje wehlabathi jikelele.

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Isitofu sokugonya esasisetyenzisiwe safumaneka kwiinyanga nje
ezimbalwa emva kokuqhambuka kolu bhubhane lwenkcitho, ngelixa

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kudla ngokuthatha iminyaka emihlanu ukuya
kwemibhozo ukuvavanya isitofu sokugonya ukuze

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kufunyaniswe ukuba sisebenza ngokwenene na okanye hayi.

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Leyo yinto enye. Enye into yeyokuba abazange
benze uphando lwe-placebo, ngoko ke abazange

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bathelekise isiphumo nonyango olungasebenziyo.

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Abakenzanga oko kuso nasiphi na isitofu
sokugonya, ngoko ke asazi ukuba zisebenza kangakanani na.

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Siyazi ukuba zikho iingxaki, ingakumbi xa
kugutyungelwa isitofu esidibanisiweyo .

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Zininzi iimzekelo zoku, apho umntwana
oneenyanga ezimbini, ezintathu okanye ezine

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ubudala afumana izitofu ezithandathu ngaxeshanye.

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Kwaye oko akubandakanyi zonke izitofu zokugonya ezichasene nazo
zonke iintsholongwane ezifakiwe kolu gonyo lwezitofu ezininzi,

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kuba ezi zitofu zintandathu zijolise
kwiintsholongwane ezingaphezulu kwezilishumi

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okanye ezingaphezulu kwamashumi amabini.

20:23.875 --> 20:28.336
Noko ke, inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba
lomntwana onenyanga ezimbini ayikakhuli.

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Kuxhomekeke kwikhuselo lomzimba
likamama. Kwaye eli khuselo libuthathaka.

20:33.161 --> 20:36.700
Kwaye ngoku inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba womntwana iqala ukukhula.

20:36.700 --> 20:42.320
Kwaye siyiphambilisela phambili le nto
ngamandla amakhulu kangaka. Ayikholeleki tu.

20:47.341 --> 20:54.422
Enye ingxaki enkulu kakhulu yeyokuba
ingqondo yalo mntwana ayikakhuli; isakhula.

20:54.422 --> 20:58.360
Kwaye engqondweni kukho umqobo
okhuselayo, umqobo wegazi nengqondo.

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Ngoko ke, into engena egazini ayinakungena ngqo engqondweni.

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Nangona kunjalo, esi sikhwama
sokukhusela asikakhuli ngoku ebantwaneni.

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Into enikwa umntwana kwaye ingena emzimbeni ngokuphuma
kwegazi, ngaloo ndlela ingena engakhuselekanga engqondweni.

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Ingxaki yeyokuba izitofu zokugonya zizinto
ezikhuthaza amajoni omzimba ezibuthathaka kakhulu.

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Ukuze bakhuthaze ngokwenene inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba,
kufuneka kongezwe ii-adjuvants , ezibangela ukuba

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inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba iqalise ukusebenza kwasekuqaleni.

21:34.552 --> 21:39.840
Kwaye esi sincedisi kwi-vaccine yi-aluminiyam.

21:41.909 --> 21:45.735
Umlawuli: Bendicinga ukuba oko
kuqulethwe kuzo zonke izitofu zokugonya?

21:45.735 --> 21:50.765
Gqirha András Guseo: Izitofu zokugonya zazifudula
zine-mercury, kodwa ngethamsanqa loo nto yavalwa.

21:50.765 --> 21:57.442
Kodwa kusekho ezinye; isitofu
sokugonya i-hepatitis B sisene-mercury.

21:57.442 --> 22:01.185
Isitofu sokugonya umkhuhlane sisenokuba sisene-mercury.

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Kwaye le aluminium ingena engqondweni nganye-nganye.

22:05.568 --> 22:13.100
Kwaye ialuminiyam ivuselelwa kwiiseli
zemithambo-luvo ngumitha we-Wi-Fi okanye weselula.

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Iza kuba ngumamkeli wabo, i-antenna yabo.

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Kwaye oko kudala isiphumo
sombane-magnethi esingaqhelekanga engqondweni.

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Iiseli zemithambo-luvo engqondweni nazo zivelisa
amaza ombane-magnethi, kwaye zonke iiseli emzimbeni

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wam ziyaqonda la mazaza, anika iiseli zam amandla.

22:43.143 --> 22:49.046
Ukuba ngoku ndibeka lo mzimba kwindawo yamandla ombane-magnethi
kwaye ndiwuchaphazela nge-Wi-Fi – 50 Hz – kunye nezinye

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iintlobo zomitha wefowuni ephathwayo, ke ezi zinto
ziyayiphazamisa imisebenzi yam yangaphakathi yombane-magnethi.

22:54.434 --> 22:59.737
Kwaye ukuba ndinee-antena engqondweni yam, oko
kuza kuba nefuthe elikhulu kakhulu kwinkqubo yayo

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engundoqo yokulawula, ukusebenza kwayo kweeseli.

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HUNGARY – AKUKHO MNTU UXANDUVELAYO NGOMONAKALO WESITOYIZO

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: EHungary, umthetho ubhalwe ngendlela
yokuba akukho menzi, ugqirha, okanye urhulumente onoxanduva

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lwalo naluphi na umonakalo obangelwe sisitofu sokugonya.

23:24.797 --> 23:32.580
Isiphumo saloku kukuba ukuba akukho
zohlwayo, akukho mntu uya kuzilandela imithetho.

23:34.644 --> 23:39.183
Loo nto ngumthetho wendalo!

23:39.183 --> 23:47.753
Ngenxa yokuba kungekho nguye ugqirha, urhulumente okanye umenzi
wemveliso onoxanduva eHungary, ugqirha akayifezekisi imisebenzi

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yakhe yokwazisa isigulana ngeziphumo zomthamo wokugonya.

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Akasebenzi kwinqanaba elifunekayo
kuba akakafundi ukuba kwenziwa njani.

23:58.078 --> 24:04.100
Ngoko ke siyalwela abo bachaphazelekileyo abaza
kuthi kuba kufuneka badlule kuvavanyo olunzima.

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Phezu koko, akukho mntu unokubanjwa uxanduva,
ngoko ke sihlala sisilela ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

24:09.276 --> 24:13.204
Kodwa siyamelana, amatyala ethu ayaqhubeka,
kwaye kufuneka siqale phantsi

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ngokuphindaphindiweyo ukuze sikhulule abantu ekugonyweni.

24:16.851 --> 24:20.962
ISIGQIBO SOKUZIKHETHELA SOKUGONWA

24:20.962 --> 24:24.036
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ngoko ke
kungakuhle ukuba kwenzeke izinto ezimbini:

24:24.036 --> 24:30.861
Okokuqala, into elwela yona i-United States of America,
nento elwela yona ulawulo lukaKennedy, oko kukuthi ulawulo

24:30.861 --> 24:34.895
lukaTrump, kukuphelisa le nto yokungabikho kotyala kwabenzi.

24:34.895 --> 24:42.664
Oku kufanele kwenziwe naseHungary
ukuze abo baphetheyo bangaphenduli mntu.

24:42.664 --> 24:45.594
Kwaye ugqirha naye kufuneka aphenduliswe.

24:45.594 --> 24:50.541
Kuba baya kukhuthazeka kuphela ukuba
bafundise abantu ngeengozi zokugonya ukuba

24:50.541 --> 24:54.469
banokubanjwa baphendule ngomonakalo abawubangelayo.

24:54.469 --> 25:01.566
Kwaye enye into yeyokuba, xa lo mthetho ususiwe – apho kungabi
ngugqirha okanye urhulumente onoxanduva lomonakalo obangelwa

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zizitofu zokugonya – ulwazi malunga
neziphumo ebezingalindelekanga zezitofu zokugonya

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nalo luya kudluliselwa kwizigulana nakubazali.

25:09.547 --> 25:14.109
Ngaphezu koko, ukuba ukugonywa bekukhetho,
besingazukunyanzelwa ukuba sidlule kule meko

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inzima, apho ngokwenene silwela ubomi bantwana bethu.

25:17.948 --> 25:24.302
Umlawuli: Ke, ugqirha kufuneka afunge ukuba
uza kukuphilisa okanye akayi kukwenzakalisa.

25:26.259 --> 25:29.520
Kulungile, masiyihlolisise kancinci loo nto:

25:29.520 --> 25:35.574
Ngoko ke, ukuba ugqirha ufunga isifungo esinje kodwa ke
engaphumeleli nje kuphela ekudluliseleni ulwazi malunga

25:35.574 --> 25:41.519
nokugonya, kodwa akwatyhafa nokwenza iimvavanyo
kwangaphambili ukuze kufunyaniswe ukuba lo mntwana uza kugula

25:41.519 --> 25:46.960
kamva na, ngoko ke ufunge isifungo sakhe ngokungenamsebenzi.

25:46.960 --> 25:51.270
Enyanisweni, waphula isifungo sakhe.

25:51.270 --> 25:54.263
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Asinayo nje
kuphela ityala elinye elinjalo – sinazo ezininzi!

25:54.263 --> 25:58.135
Asibanga ngamangalo nje. Simangalela ngokukodwa oogqirha.

25:58.135 --> 26:03.190
Kuba, nokuba ayenziwa ngolu hlobo, yeyona mthetho eHungary:

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Ukuba ugqirha ubhala ukuba umntwana
akanakugonywa ngenxa yezizathu zempilo, ngoko

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abasemagunyeni kufuneka bamxolele kwimfuneko yokugonywa.

26:11.983 --> 26:19.495
Sinezimeko apho oogqirha ababini noogqirha
abane babhale ukuba umntwana akanakugonywa.

26:19.495 --> 26:25.480
Abazali bayisa le nto kubaphathi, kwaye abaphathi bamisa
umcebisi wamachiza okugonya ekuthiwa nguye – eli liziko

26:25.480 --> 26:29.630
laseHungary – ongazange ambonane nomntwana ngaphambili.

26:29.630 --> 26:37.398
Ngokomzekelo, ngoogqirha ababini abanyanga, okanye ngoogqirha
abane abanyanga elo ntwazana, abanye babo iminyaka

26:37.398 --> 26:47.083
esibhozo, abanye iminyaka emine, baze babhale kumaphepha
aliqela ukuba loo ntwazana ingafa ngenxa yesitofu sokugonya.

26:48.958 --> 26:57.326
Umcebisi wokugonya akalijongisi nokulijonga ingane,
ufunda nje iziphumo – ndithetha ngeemeko ezithile –

26:57.326 --> 27:02.969
aze abhale ngemigca emine ukuba ingane ingagonywa.

27:05.824 --> 27:08.480
Umlawuli: Kwaye aba ngoogqirha?

27:08.480 --> 27:13.800
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Oogqirha,
oogqirha, oogqirha abaqeqeshwe ngokukhethekileyo.

27:13.800 --> 27:21.416
Ngomnye umbuzo: Kaloku, thina sikwamangalela noogqirha
abangakhange banike imivumeleko yokungagonywa kuloo

27:21.416 --> 27:27.204
bantwana banelungelo lokwenene lokukhululwa kolu gonyo.

27:27.204 --> 27:32.348
Kwaye ugqirha wabhala phantsi. Sinezikhalazo ezininzi ezinjalo.

27:32.348 --> 27:38.818
Kwaye oogqirha abaliqela abohlukeneyo babhala besithi xa kuziwa
kwizitofu zokugonya ezinyanzelekileyo, abayithatheli ngqalelo

27:38.818 --> 27:43.527
impilontle yomntwana, kodwa endaweni yoko
bathatha umdla woluntu, kwaye lo mntwana kufuneka

27:43.527 --> 27:48.236
agonywe ukuze kufezekiswe ukhuseleko lweqela.

27:48.236 --> 27:51.069
Umlawuli: Kwaye ke akukhathaliseki ukuba umntwana unantoni.

27:51.069 --> 27:54.131
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Oku kwenziwa
kwakhona xa kukho umngcipheko ophezulu kakhulu

27:54.131 --> 27:55.822
wokuba umntwana angafa ngenxa yesi siqhushumbisi.

27:55.822 --> 27:59.824
Kwaye siza kuyifaka loo nto kwingxelo
yesimangalo. Sineemeko ezininzi ezinje.

27:59.824 --> 28:05.391
UKUNYUKA KWINOMBOLO YABANTWANA ABANE-AUTISM

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Gqr. András Guseo: I-CDC ipapashe idatha
eyothusayo ebonisa ukuba bangaphi abantwana

28:10.386 --> 28:14.740
abasandul' ukuzalwa e-USA abaza kuba ne-autism.

28:18.211 --> 28:23.781
Ngo-2020, elo nani lalingama-158.

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Ukuba sibuyela emva iminyaka eli-15, elo
nani lalingomnye kwishumi elinamawaka.

28:29.784 --> 28:33.280
Umlawuli: Ingaba yi-158 kwi-10,000?

28:33.280 --> 28:38.662
Gqirha András Guseo: Hayi, umntwana omnye
kwabazalwa abali-158 uya kuba ne-autism.

28:38.662 --> 28:44.491
Kwaye kule minyaka idlulileyo, isibalo esisetyenziswayo
esapapashwayo siye sahlala sisihla, kwaye kunyaka ophelileyo

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bekukho umntwana omnye one-autism kubazali abasithoba.

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Ithrendi iyehla kakhulu – nto leyo ethetha ukuba
kuncipha ngokuya kusiba bambalwa abantwana abangengawo

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i-autistic phakathi kwezintsana ezisandul' ukuzalwa.

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Kwaye ukuba andiphazami, isiseko
siza kufikelelwa kwiminyaka emibini.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba wonke umntwana
ozalelwe eMelika angaba ne-autism.

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Gqirha András Guseo: Kubi kakhulu oko.
Ndiyibukele ndisekhaya, kwilizwe lethu.

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Kwaye ndingathanda ukukubonisa idatha yamva nje kule chati.

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Ibonisa inani labantwana abane-autism abaneminyaka
ephakathi kwe-2 ne-18, abaxeliweyo zizikolo kwilizwe lonke

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ekupheleni kukaSeptemba ukusukela ngo-2018 ukuya ku-2024.

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Kwaye kubonisa ukuba ukwanda kubaluleke kakhulu,
kufikelela kwi-121% kwisithuba seminyaka esi-7.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba inani labantwana
abane-autism ezikolweni liyanda ngomyinge we-17% ngonyaka.

29:54.465 --> 30:00.395
Nikoletta Kertész: Emva koko kwaziswa isitofu sokugonya
i-chickenpox, kunye nesitofu sokugonya i-pneumococcal, apho

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kwakusoloko kugonyelwa iintlobo ezili-13
ezahlukeneyo zeentsholongwane ze-pneumococcal – ngoku

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sele zizi-20. Kwaye elo nani liyaqhubeka linyuka.

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Kwaye ngoku sizibuza ngokungathandabuzekiyo ukuba
kunokwenzeka njani ukuba kubekho abantwana abangakwaziyo

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ukuthetha nanamhlanje beseneminyaka emithathu ubudala.

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Ngoko ke, kunokwenzeka njani ukuba intsalela yabantwana
ingene kwizikolo zabantwana abancinci ineminyaka emithathu

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ubudala, ingakwazi ukuthetha okanye ukusebenzisa ipotala?

30:27.155 --> 30:31.601
Kwaye la bantwana beza kuthi
ngobuninzi kwilizwe lonke – asikho sodwa.

30:31.601 --> 30:35.925
Baza kufakwa kwiinkqubo zokuxhasa ezikhoyo.

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Kaloku, akukho lizwe ehlabathini eline iziko
lenkxaso yabucala, iindawo zonyango ezizimeleyo, kunye

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nootitshala bezidingo ezizodwa ezininzi kuneHungary.

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Oku kubonisa imfuno ephezulu, kwaye asisakwazi
ukwenza iidipozithi – akukho nanye kwezi ziko

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enokusenza ezinye iidipozithi. Zininzi nje iicelo kakhulu.

30:56.644 --> 31:03.159
Sisiqhwithi, kungekuphela ngokwenani labantwana abane-autism,
kodwa kananjalo kuba ukuziphatha kwaba bantwana kwahluke

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kakhulu ekuziphatheni okusempilweni. Oku akunakusaphikiswa.

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Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Yiyo loo nto
besisoloko besazisa ukuba iinkundla zivulelekile

31:12.889 --> 31:15.780
eluntwini, ukuze abantu bakwazi ukuya kuzo.

31:15.780 --> 31:19.936
Besisoloko simema abantu xa umxhasi evuma.

31:19.936 --> 31:27.326
Utitshala wesikolo samabanga aphakamileyo wakha wathatha
inxaxheba kwityala elinje enkundleni kuba wayeqaphele ukuba

31:27.326 --> 31:34.717
kubantwana abangama-47 ababewenzile uviwo lokungena
kwisikolo samabanga aphakamileyo, abangama-20 babo babenamadinga

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okufunda akhethekileyo – uninzi lwabo lwalune-autism.

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Asingabo thina, kodwa ngomnye umbutho owabuza amazwe angamalungu
oManyano lwaseYurophu – amazwe apho ukugonya kunganyanzeliswanga

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– ukuba kutheni ukugonya kunganyanzeliswanga.

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Kwaye baphendula malunga neenkonzo, esesele
sizazi, kungenxa yokuba azihambelani nomgaqo-siseko.

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Isizathu sokuba ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kungavumelani
nomgaqo-siseko – kwaye kungavumelani nomgaqo-siseko

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kwihlabathi lonke – kukuba ungafa ngenxa yokugonywa.

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Yinyani leyo. Akunakukhanyelwa.

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Ungafa ngenxa yepilisi ye-aspirin; unokufumana i-anaphylaxis
ngayo nayiphi na into. Ngoko ke unokufa ngenxa yayo.

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Akumiselwanga ngumgaqo-siseko ukumisela into enokubulala.

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Iwaphula ilungelo lobomi.

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Kwelinye icala, abantu abazi nto ngayo kuba
ithengiswa njengoxanduva kwaye izitofu zokugonya

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zisenokuba zilungile kuphela kwaye awunako ukufa ngazo.

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Ukongeza kutshintsho emthethweni, kufuneka kubekho
naphakathi iphulo lokwazisa ukuze kutyhutyhwe abantu.

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Ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kufuneka kupheliswe kwaye
abantu kufuneka baziswe ngeenzuzo, iingxaki, iingozi, njl.njl.

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zokugonywa – ngoogqirha, amajelo eendaba kunye norhulumente.

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Gqr. András Guseo: Emva koko, ukuba ujonga imihla yethu
yanamhlanje, i-CDC, esele siyikhankanyile izihlandlo eziliqela,

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iZiko lase-US lokuLawula iziZifo, oko
kukuthi, igunya laseMelika lezifundo zokunwenwa

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kwezifo, ikwangumthengisi wezitofu zokugonya.

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Ngoko ke inobudlelwane obuthe ngqo nabavelisi begonyo,
kwaye kuluncedo kubo ukuzisa iintlobo ezininzi

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zegalelo kangangoko kunokwenzeka kwimarike. Loo nto icacile.

33:45.196 --> 33:52.110
Ingxaki enkulu yeyokuba xa ndandiqala umsebenzi wam kwiminyaka
engama-60 eyadlulayo ndaza ndenza uviwo lwam

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lobuchwepheshe kwi-neurology nakwi-psychiatry, ingqikelelo
ye-autoimmunity yayikho, kodwa yayingadityaniswanga nezifo.

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Bendingazange ndive nge-autism, kwaye sasingafundanga nto ngayo.

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Namhlanje, zombini ezi ntlobo zezifo ziyanda.

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Kulungile, apha ungabona ukwanda, kwaye
singathetha ngobhubhane kule namhlanje, kuba akukho

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ndlu ingenaso isifo se-autoimmune ekufutshane nayo.

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Akukho ndlu inomntwana one-autism okanye
onengxaki yokuziphatha, ongahlala kufutshane nayo.

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I-mainstream ayivumeli naziphi na iziphikisana

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Gqr. András Guseo: Nto le nto ndingathanda
ukuyithetha yeyokuba akukho phando lusemthethweni malunga

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nokugonywa olujongene neziphumo zokugonywa zexesha elide.

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Kwenzeka ntoni kubantu abagonyiweyo
emva kweminyaka eli-10, eli-20, neli-30?

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E-United States, kukho uphando olubizwa
ngokuba yi-VAERS , oluphonononge abantu

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abangama-35,000 abagonyiweyo nabangagonywanga.

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Kwavela ukuba abo babehlatywe isitofu babegula kakhulu,
baneentlobo ezininzi zezifo ezingqinisisiweyo,

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baya kugqirha rhoqo kunabo babengahlatywanga,
kwaye abo babengahlatywanga babesempilweni ngakumbi.

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Kodwa abantu abafuni ukuthetha ngayo, yiyo loo nto
eneneni kungekho datha ngayo, kwaye yeyona ngxaki inkulu:

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INzululwazi namhlanje inelawulo elikhulu phezu kweempapasho
zenzululwazi kangangokuba, ukuba umntu ufuna ukubhala

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into engahambelaniyo nengcinga eqhelekileyo, ayizukupapashwa.

35:47.382 --> 35:53.910
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Kwaye enye into ebaluleke kakhulu
ethethwe ngu-András, kuba kukho oogqirha, nangona bebambalwa

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kakhulu, abanobuganga bokubhala ukuba umntwana akanakugonywa.

35:59.260 --> 36:07.664
Kwaye inkonzo yezempilo yoluntu iqalisa amanyathelo
ngokuchasene nooGqirha aba ngenxa yokuba babhale lonto.

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Kakade ke, ayibekwa ngolo hlobo.

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Ezinye iingcali zonyango ezibandakanyekileyo zifumana nje
umnxeba ozibxelela ukuba mazingaphindi zikwenze kwakhona.

36:16.678 --> 36:24.504
Ngokuchasene nabanye, iinkqubo
ezisemthethweni ziqaliswa ngezizathu ezahlukeneyo.

36:24.504 --> 36:32.416
Kwaye ukuze abantu bazi imithetho: ukuba abasemagunyeni
kwezempilo bafumana ukwaphulwa komthetho – kwaye oku kusebenza

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nakubantu abazimeleyo nkqu nakubazali abangabavaxi abantwana babo
– banokuhlawuliswa phakathi kwe-30,000 ne-5

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lezigidi zeforinti , kwaye oku kunokuphindwa-phindwa
kwizihlandlo ezininzi kwakho kwaphulwa ngakunye.

36:49.833 --> 36:58.952
Uninzi lweegqirha ngoko ke lunokulindela ukuphindiselwa, nokuba
bayavuma okanye bayixela impembelelo engathandekiyo ngomlomo.

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Mlawuli: Ingaba oko kuza kutshintsha?
Ingaba le nto besiyixoxa iza kutshintsha? Sele

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uneminyaka eliqela ubandakanyekile, akunjalo?

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Gqr. András Guseo: Siyathemba
ukuba kuza kubakho utshintsho. Sizame.

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Kwathuba elimalunga neenyanga ezintandathu ezidlulileyo,
samema abameli abaphambili beli candelo kwintlanganiso ukuze

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sixoxe ngalo mba, sive izimvo zabo size sinikezele ngezemathu.

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Kodwa yayifana nesigqubuthelo sentsimbi:

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Akubangakho mntu weza, kwaye emva koko, kwinkomfa
noonondaba ebesimenyele kuyo abameli abangama-40

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babezindaba, kwalandela isigqubuthelo esifanayo sentsimbi.

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Ngoko ke akukho ncoko.

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Ngoko ke, utshintsho lungenzeka njani?

37:45.099 --> 37:50.398
Gqirha Angelika Mihalik: Ke,
uAndrás uthe akukho mntu wamkela izimemo.

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Banyanzelisa ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kwaye...
IHungary ngokwenene kuphela ilizwe ehlabathini apho

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kukho olu hlobo lwekhoboka lokugonywa. Ndikujongile oku.

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Kuphela umntwana omnye kwisithili esincinci oyifumeneyo inxaso.

38:11.642 --> 38:18.643
Siyalwa, kwaye sifikelele kwinqanaba lokuba, enkundleni,
kwityala, emva kokuphulukana netyala, sivakalelwa

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kukuba siphulukana nazo zonke iityala zethu.
Ngaphandle kobungqina esinabo bokuxhasa ityala lethu.

38:25.627 --> 38:33.543
Kwaye umgwebi, esele ezisola, uthi akukho ngxaki,
singaphinda singenise isicelo sokukhululwa kugonyo.

38:33.543 --> 38:35.683
Kwaye yonke into iqala kwakhona.

38:35.683 --> 38:38.316
Eli asilolona uluvo lwejaji enye
kuphela, kodwa lolwejaji ezininzi.

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Ngoko ke siqala iinkqubo
ngokuphindaphindiweyo, siphinde siphinde.

38:41.826 --> 38:46.740
Abanye abantwana bagcinwa bephila ngale ndlela.

38:46.740 --> 38:51.862
Lonke uhlelo lwezomthetho luyilwe ngendlela yokuba
kuye kwanyanzeleka ukuba sizenzele isikhewu somthetho –

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luhlobo lomatshini oqhubeka usebenza ngokungapheliyo.

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Ukuba asikwazi ukwenza umntwana akhululwe kwisitofu
sokugonya, sifuna ubuncinci ukuba inkqubo

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yokukhululwa iqhubeke ixesha elide kangangoko kunokwenzeka.

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Kuba logama oku kusenzeka, abanakusibeka
isohlwayo okanye bathathe umntwana baye kumgonyela.

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Yiloo nto esisoloko siyiphinda.

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Kwaye kukho enye into ebalulekileyo ekufuneka
ithethwe ngamanyathelo athathwe ngokuchasene nathi.

39:22.666 --> 39:26.064
Singamagqwetha amathathu asebenza kwezi zityholo.

39:26.064 --> 39:33.248
Kwaye sonke thathu sibizwa ngokuba ngabachasi
bokugonya kwaye kuthiwa singingozi eluntwini.

39:33.248 --> 39:39.155
Baqalisa iinkqubo zentswela-bulumko ngakuthi – kwaye ukuba
ngenxa yoko siphulukana nobulungu bethu kwi-Bar Association,

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asisayi kuphinda sivunyelwe ukuba sisebenze njengamagqwetha.

39:42.968 --> 39:45.761
Omnye wogxa bam ukhululwe kule nto.

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Kukho inkqubo yentshilelo em ndijongileyo ngenxa yokuba ndingumntu
ochasene neentlobo ezibambiweyo, onobungozi eluntwini.

39:52.448 --> 39:58.471
Kwaye iinkqubo zentsimeko nazo
ziyaqhubeka ngakwelinye iqabane. Ngoko ke...

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Umlawuli: Xa ndithetha ngezihloko ezinjalo kwiividiyo
zam, ndisoloko ndisithi akunyanzelekanga ukuba undikholelwe.

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Ndithi: khangela uze wenze eyakho ingqikelelo.

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Lo ngumbuzo wolwazi.

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Kwaye ngolwazi oluninzi kangaka, njengoku kule
dliwano-ndlebe, abantu bangaqalisa kwi-intanethi.

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Umlawuli: Enkosi kakhulu!