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E-Hungary, kunezinkinga eziningi zezempilo phakathi
kwezingane ezisanda kuzalwa, izingane, abasha nabantu abadala.

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Ububanzi bokuthi lezi zilonda zihlobene kangakanani nokugonywa
kwangaphambilini kuxoxwa ngakho engxoxweni elandelayo nodokotela

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nommeli waseHungary, kanye nomama othinteke kule ndaba onezingane
ezintathu ezazizalwe ziphilile kodwa manje ezikhubazekile.

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Ngokocwaningo lwabo, inani lezingane ezitholakale
zine-autismu emva kokugonywa lenyuke kakhulu eHungary.

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Izinhlelo eziningi zaseHungary zinakekela lezi zingane,
zizisekela – noma zilwela nabazali bazo ukuqinisekisa ukuthi

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ukugoma okusemthethweni kwezingane akusabophekile eHungary.

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Ukugonywa okuphoqelekile? Ingabe
ukugonywa ngempela kuphoqelekile eHungary?

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Eqinisweni, ukugoma kokuqala okuphoqelekile
kwethulwa eHungary kusukela ngo-1876, kanti

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okunye kwalandela ngo-1954 naseziminyaka yama-1960.

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Namuhla, zonke izingane ezisanda kuzalwa eHungary zithola umjovo
wokuvikela i-TB ngaphandle kokubuza abazali bazo ngaphambilini.

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Ngo-1997 nango-1998, uMnyango Wezempilo
waseHungary wamisa imithetho yezempilo eyethula

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ukugoma okwengeziwe ngokumelene nezifo eziningana.

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Njengamanje, izingane zaseHungary zithola imijovo eminingi
eyingozi yokuvikela i-diphtheria, i-whooping cough, i-tetanus,

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i-polio kanye ne-Haemophilus influenzae uhlobo
b lapho zineminyaka ezingu-2 izinyanga, 3

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izinyanga, 4 izinyanga kanye nezinyanga eziyi-18.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, imijovo yokugoma
ye-pneumococcal inikezwa ezinyangeni eziyi-2, 4 no-12 zobudala.

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Umjovo wokuhlanganisa i-measles, i-mumps ne-rubella unikezwa
ezinyangeni eziyi-15 zobudala, kanti umjovo we-chickenpox

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unikezwa izingane ezinyangeni eziyi-13 neziyi-16 zobudala.

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Abazali baseHungary abakwazi ngempela ukukhulula izingane
zabo ekugonyweni okudingekayo, noma sekukhona ingane

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emndenini eseke yalimala kakhulu empilweni ngemuva kokugonywa.

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Lapho izingane ziqala ukuya endaweni yokunakekelwa kwezingane
nasemakilasini okufundela izingane, abahlengikazi

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bezingane nabasizi bokubeletha abazikhathalelayo kusukela
ekuzalweni kudingeka bahlolisise isimo sabo sokugonywa.

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Esikoleni, kunokugonywa okuningi kwazo zonke izigaba zezikilasi.

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Uma abazali benqaba ukuba ingane yabo ithole umjovo wokugoma,
udokotela wesikole kumele abike lokhu kugunyaziwe kwezempilo.

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Uma kuba nokungabaza, lokhu kungaholela
ezijezweni ezinzima nasekuxoshweni esikoleni.

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Isinqumo sango-2019 saphinde savumela
ukususwa kwezingane ezingagonyelwanga kubazali bazo.

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Engxoxweni, udokotela waseHungary ugcizelela ukuthi nezinye izici
nazo zingase zibe nendima ekunyukeni kokwenzeka

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kwezifo ezinganeni, njengokuthi inkinga yomhlaba wonke
yokudla okuguqulwe kakhulu, okungeyikho emvelweni.

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Nokho, kucacisiwe futhi ukuthi izifo ze-autoimmune,
ukuvuvukala, ukubambezeleka ekuthuthukeni, i-autism kanye nezifo

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eziningi ezintsha zokutheleleka zivame ukuvela ngemva kokugoma.

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Abashisekeli abathathu abaxoxwe nabo ngaleyo ndlela benza
umkhankaso wokuthi abakhiqizi bemijovo yokugoma babophezeleke

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ngokulimala okubangelwa yimijovo nokuthi
odokotela abagonyayo bagcwalise isibopho sabo

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sokwazisa iziguli ngemiphumela engemihle yokugoma.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, ukunqunywa kwamazinga ama-antibodi kumele
kwenziwe ngokuphuthuma ngaphambi kokugonywa kokwengeza

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okuhleliwe ukuze kuvinjelwe ukuzivikela komzimba ngokweqile
kanye nengozi ephathelene nesifo sokuzivikela komzimba.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, odokotela akufanele basolwe
ngokunikeza izitifiketi zokungavunyelwa ukugonywa,

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isibonelo ngokuvula izinqubo zomthetho ngokumelene nabo.

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Ngokuvamile, ukugoma kufanele kwenziwe kuphela ngokuzithandela –
lokhu futhi kuyacelwa abazali eJalimane

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abafuna ukuvikela izingane zabo emiphumeleni
engemihle yokugoma i-measles okudingekayo lapha.

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Lolu xoxiswano oluvusa imizwa lubonisa ukuthi ngisho naseHungary
– eseyindawo edume kakhulu yabokufika – akusikho konke okuhle.

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Ngenxa yemiphumela ebilokhu ivelaphi ngokusobala yokugonywa –
bheka futhi izimo eziningi zokulimala ezidalwe yizitofu zokugoma

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ze-coronavirus – kanye nokushintshela okuqhubekayo kuzo zonke
izitofu zokugoma kusetshenziswe izitofu ze-mRNA

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eziyingozi, ubunjalo bokuzithandela bokugonywa obucelwe kabanzi
busaqhubeka kuyindaba ebalulekile kwabanye abathintekayo.

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Ingxoxo: UKWETHULA AMAZINGANI BENGXOXO

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Umhleli (Dániel István): Ntambama emnandi,
ngiyanibingelela nonke ngokufudumele, futhi

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izivakashi zethu ngu-András, u-Angelika no-Niki.

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UDkt. András Guseo: NginguDkt. András Guseo, udokotela wezinzwa,
udokotela wezokwelapha kwengqondo, umcwaningi

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wamaseli ezinzwa, umcwaningi we-psycho-neuro-immunology,
umfundisi wokucindezeleka nodokotela wocwaningo.

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Njengelungu le-Hungarian Academy of Sciences,
bengihileleke ocwaningweni iminyaka engu-65.

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Izintshisekelo zami eziyinhloko zocwaningo zifaka
ukuzivikela komzimba okweqile, kanti muva nje futhi i-autismu

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njengendawo yezinkinga zokuzivikela komzimba okweqile.

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UDkt Angelika Mihalik: NginguAngelika Mihalik, ngingummeli.

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Ngibuyele emkhakheni wezomthetho izinyanga eziyishumi
nesishiyagalombili ezedlule – ngangishiye

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ngaphambilini ngoba bengingafuni ukuba umsolicitor noma ummeli.

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Yingakho ngathola iziqu ekuguquleleni kwezobuchwepheshe.
Bengiyazi isiNgisi futhi ngafunda ukuguqulela kwezobuchwepheshe

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ngesikhathi ngiyeka umsebenzi wami wezomthetho.

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Kusukela ngo-2019, bengihumusha izihloko
zezokwelapha eziphathelene ne-COVID-19, imijovo yokugoma

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i-COVID-19, kanye nocwaningo oluyinhloko lwabodokotela.

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Futhi njengoba ngabheka ngalokhu, ngahlangana nezihloko
ezikhethekile nezinkinga eziphathelene nemijovo yendabuko,

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futhi lapho ngabona ngempela okwenzekayo ngemijovo yendabuko.

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Kwafika lapho umuntu engangimhumusha yena wangithumelela
umlayezo ku-Messenger ethi sidinga uKennedy waseHungary

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, ngakho nganquma ukubuyela emsebenzini wokuba ngummeli.

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Angisho lokhu ngenxa yokuzigqaja,
kodwa ngoba yilokho okwabangela ngqo.

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Futhi uNiki waphinde wadlala indima ekwenza
ngiqaphele ukuthi kwakukhona inkinga ngoba kwakukhona

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imiphumela engemihle evela ekugonyweni okuphoqelekile.

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UNiki wangibonisa ubunzima balolu daba
olukhulu ngokungimema emcimbini womndeni endlini

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yakhe, lapho bekukhona izivakashi eziningi.

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Baphinde baletha izingane ezine noma ezinhlanu ezinobuthakathaka
bokuziphatha, ngakho-ke ngabona ubunzima benkinga.

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Lezi zizathu ezimbili zangenza ngabuyela emkhakheni wezomthetho.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho sidinga uKennedy waseHungary,
uma kungathiwa kanjalo. Yebo, Niki? Qhubeka.

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Nikoletta Kertész: NginguNikoletta
Kertész, ngaziwa kakhulu ngokuthi uNiki Kertész.

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Nginezingane ezintathu, zonke
ezintathu zilimele ngemijovo yokugoma.

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Lo muntu oneminyaka engu-24 ubudala waba
nokukhubazeka okukhulu kwengqondo, une-epilepsi futhi

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wahlangabezana nokuhlinzwa kobuchopho ngenxa yalokho.

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Omunye wamawele ami emshadweni wami wesibili waba ngumuntu
ongekwazi ukukhuluma, onokukhubazeka kwengqondo futhi one-autismu

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ngemva kokuthola umjovo we-MMR eneminyaka engu-15 izinyanga.

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Umfowabo owazalwa naye unokungezwani okukhulu
kokudla nokuvuvukala komgudu wokugaya, kodwa

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waphuma kulokho engaphazamisekile engqondweni.

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Ngazifuna futhi ngacwaninga izizathu, ngoba umuntu angacabanga
ukuthi awukwazi ukungena emfuleni ofanayo kabili, kodwa

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ungangena emfuleni we-autoimmunity kaningi ngangokuthanda kwakho.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokwempela, ngabona ukuthi kukhona
okungahambi kahle kubafana abaphindwe kabili, ngase

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ngiqala ukuhlola, futhi ngizokutshela lapha engikutholile.

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Eminyakeni eyishumi edlule, ngasungula iqembu le-Facebook
elibizwa ngokuthi "Autism Never Again" ngesistimu yokwelapha

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engiyithuthukisile esekelwe ekudleni nasekwelashweni okunye.

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Sisize izinkulungwane zabantu eqenjini ukunciphisa izimpawu zabo
ze-autism ne-ADHD – ngisho nangaphandle kwemingcele yeqembu.

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Ezinye izingane ngisho zasuswa ukuxilongwa kwazo kwe-autism.

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UKUGOMA OKUPHOQELEKILE EMHLABENI WONKE

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Umhleli: Ingabe izingane eHungary zithola
imijovo efanayo naleyo, isibonelo, e-Afrika?

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Ingabe imikhuba yokugoma ifana
emhlabeni wonke, noma kukhona umehluko?

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UDkt. András Guseo: Izindlela
zokugoma ziyahlukahluka ezweni ngalinye.

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Emazweni angu-18 kwezingu-30 aseYurophu, ukugoma akuphoqelekile,
noma uma kuphoqelekile, kungokugoma okukodwa noma

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okubili kuphela – ikakhulukazi ukuvimbela lezo
zifo ezibhekwa njengengozi enkulu kakhulu kulelo zwe.

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Yonke eminye imijovo yokugoma iyenziwa ngokuzithandela.

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UMPIKISWANO WOMTHETHO: UKUNGABI NOLWAZI NGOKUGOMA KWABAZALI

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Umlawuli: Hhayi-ke, Angelika, nginombuzo ngawe:

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Lapho abazali bephethe ingane yabo ukuze bayoyithatha
umhlangano wokugoma – lapha sikhuluma ngokugoma okusemthethweni

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– yiluphi ulwazi abazali abaluthola ngalokhu kugoma?

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Ingabe lo mbuzo uyinembuzo ebucayi?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Njengamanje
sinamacala enkantolo okungenani angu-150.

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Amaklayenti ethu ngokuyinhloko izingane
ezilimele; yibo abaphambili, futhi sithatha

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izinyathelo zomthetho egameni lezingane.

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Futhi iningi labo selizilimele
kakhulu noma kancane ngumuthi wokugoma.

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Noma beza kithi ngoba umfowabo noma udadewabo
walimala kakhulu ngenxa yokugonywa noma washona.

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Futhi ngeshwa, odokotela abafundiswa
ngokwanele noma ngokuningiliziwe eNyuvesi.

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Amakhosi okuqeqesha awafundisi mayelana nemijovo yokugoma noma
indlela esebenza ngayo, kodwa anikeza kuphela

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izibalo zokuthi kungani imijovo yokugoma imihle,
yiziphi imijovo yokugoma ezikhona, nokunye okunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke odokotela banolwazi oluncane
kakhulu lwangempela mayelana nemijovo yokugoma.

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Ngeshwa. Futhi mayelana nomshini wokusebenza kokugoma.

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Yingakho abazali nabo ngokusobala bengaziswa.

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Abazali bayaziswa kanjani? – Umthetho ka-1997 –
Zingaki izitozo ezikhona? – Ukuchithwa kwezitozo

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Umlawuli: Ngabe abazali bathola ishidi lolwazi
lapho izingane zabo sezizofakwa umjovo wokugoma?

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Ngakho-ke, incwadi yolwazi
mayelana nokuthi kuzokwenzekani enganeni?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Uzothola ishidi le-A4
elichaza ukuthi umjovo wokugoma usetshenzelwani.

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Umlawuli: Uyayithola lokho ngemva kokugonywa?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Cha, ngaphambi
kokugoma. Yilokho ingane ethatha ekhaya nayo.

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Kodwa ngizokhuluma ngesibonelo esisodwa
esibaluleke kakhulu, umuthi wokugoma i-MMR .

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I-MMR iqukethe i-rubella, futhi iyasabalala.

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Imiyalelo yokusebenzisa ithi kuyingozi kwabesifazane abakhulelwe.

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Lesi yisibonelo esithile kakhulu. Asifakiwe kumshicilelo wolwazi.

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Udokotela wesikole ubeka izingane
ngokulandelana, kodwa akasho lutho kuzo.

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Konke sekunakekelwe manje njengoba
leli shidi lolwazi selinikezwe abazali.

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Izingane zimi ngomugqa, akababuza noma ngubani wazo:
Ingabe umama wakho ukhulelwe? Ingabe udadewenu ukhulelwe?

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Lena isibonelo esithile kakhulu.

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Kukhona icala elithile lokuphuka kokukhulelwa okulandela
ukugonywa komfowabo noma udadewabo womntwana ongakazalwa.

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Ngakho-ke yilona uhlangothi olumnyama, njengoba wena usho.

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Abantu abanakunikezwa ulwazi olwanele.

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Umlawuli: Ingabe umthetho
wase-Hungary uthi abazali kumele baziswe?

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UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo. Umhleli:
Iyiphi leyo mthetho, futhi wamukelwa nini?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Lona uMthetho Wezempilo ka-1997.

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Umlawuli: Manje sesibhala u-2025? UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.

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Umlawuli: Sekuyiminyaka eminingi manje! Futhi akekho
owakubheka kusukela lapho? UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Cha.

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Umlawuli: Futhi zingaki izitozo
ezengeziwe ezilethelwe abantu kusukela ngo-1997?

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Nikoletta Kertész: kusukela ku-97, ngicabanga ukuthi
kungenzeka kunezinye eziyishumi. Impela kunezinye eziyishumi.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho-ke kunezokugoma eziyisibhozo
eziyisibonelelo okungukuthi kumele zenziwe.

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Kodwa umthetho weminyaka yama-1990
awuzange ubuyekezwe. Nikoletta Kertész: Kunjalo.

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IMIPHAKHASHE YOKUGOMA = UKUGOMA OKUPHOQELEKILE EZIKOLENI

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Nikoletta Kertész: Ukugoma kwezingane ezingakafundi esikoleni
ezineminyaka engu-0 kuya kwengu-6 kwenziwa ngendlela yokuthi

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abazali bathatha izingane zabo baye kudokotela wezingane
izikhathi eziyi-12, okusho ukuthi baye kudokotela wabo

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womndeni wezingane, owabanazisa kafushane futhi abagome lapho.

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Isinyathelo esilandelayo ukugoma esikoleni.

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Zibizwa ngokuthi imikhankaso yokugoma.

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Umlawuli: Iyini umkhankaso wokugoma?

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kungani lo
mqondo ubizwa kanjalo, umbuzo omuhle.

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Ngokuyisisekelo, kusho ukuthi esikoleni, izingane ekilasini
elithile ziqondiswa njengezimvu ziye kudokotela wesikole,

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kuqala ngazo zonke izingane zekilasi lesithupha, isibonelo.

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Ikilasi 6a esifundweni sokuqala, ikilasi 6b esifundweni sesibili,
ikilasi 6c esifundweni sesithathu. Bese kuba 7a, 7b, 7c.

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Futhi konke lokhu ngosuku olulodwa, njengomkhankaso
wokumaketha noma womkhankaso wezepolitiki noma wokukhangisa,

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ukuze bonke abafundi bathole le mjekelo ngesikhathi esisodwa.

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Yingakho futhi ebizwa ngokuthi umkhankaso wokugoma eHungary.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho-ke lokho kuyimpoqo.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kuyimpoqo, yebo. Ngakho-ke kunezitozo
ezinikezwa odokotela bezingane kanye nezitozo zesikole

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ezihlelwe esikoleni ukuze zonke izingane zibe endaweni eyodwa.

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Lokho kwenza kube lula ukugonyela
wonke umuntu ngalolo suku, bese usuqedile.

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Abazali abadingi ukuthatha izingane zabo kudokotela
ngokwabo, futhi akudingeki ukuthi iziphathimandla zihlolisise

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kamuva ukuthi ubani osogonyiwe nokuthi ubani ongakagonywa.

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ISHIDI LOLWAZI NGOKUGOMA

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: Nikoletta Kertész: Wonke umuthi nomjovo
wokugoma kuza nemininingwane yomkhiqizo.

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Leli incwadi yezihluthulelo, elifakiwe
kuphakethe, alifani nelikhiqizwe ngumkhiqizi.

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Ngakho-ke, kunencwadi yemininingwane yephakheji
ekhiqizwa ngumkhiqizi, bese kukhona enye udokotela ayithola.

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Kukhona isincomo, okusho ulwazi olufushane olufanele kube lwanele
kubazali, bese kuba nesigaba esifushane kakhulu okucelwa

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abazali ukuba basayine, esisho kuphela, isibonelo,
ukuthi umjovo ungabangela umkhuhlane nokubomvu kwesikhumba.

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Ngezinye izikhathi ngibonile ukuthi babhala ukuthi kungabangela
ukuzizwa udidekile noma ukuhlanza. Kodwa lokho kunqabile kakhulu.

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Lezi izimpawu ze-anaphylaxis .

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Kodwa ngabona kuphela lolu lwazi oluncane.

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Ngakho-ke lolu lwazi esiluthola thina abazali;
abazali abaningi bangiqinisekisile ngalokhu.

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AMAKHULU EZINTSHUBULA EZINTSHA NGENXUBO YOKUSHAYWA
KWEMVUBEKELO NGEMVA KOKUGOMA, ISIBONELO I-UKRAINE

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Umlawuli: Ngakho... uma beqala lo mkhankaso wokugoma lapha, uma
begoma izingane eziningi kangaka, ngabe kuzoba khona okuthile

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okufana nokuchitheka komuthi wokugoma –
ngamanye amazwi, ngabe kuzoba nezifo eziningi

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ezintsha ngokushesha ngemuva kwalokhu kugonywa?

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UDkt. András Guseo: Ngokomgomo, lokho kungenzeka.

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Impilo inikeze isibonelo esivelele salokhu,
njengoba kwatholakala e-Ukraine ukuthi izinga

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lokugonywa kwe-measles laliphansi kuka-35%.

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I-WHO ne-UNICEF zibonile lokhu, futhi ukuze "basize" i-Ukraine
ekunqobeni lesi simo esibi kakhulu sokuthi abantu, ikakhulukazi

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izingane, bangakagcwalisi ukugoma kwabo
ngokuphelele, banikeze i-Ukraine imijovo yokugoma

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futhi benza umkhankaso wokugoma ngendlela efanayo.

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Umphumela: Ngesilinganiso sangaphambilini
sokumbozwa kokugoma esingu-35%, kwakukhona izifo

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ze-measles ezingama-60 kuya kwezingama-70 ngonyaka.

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Kodwa hhayi iminyaka eminingi manje.

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Ngemva kokuqala komkhankaso wokugoma, kwaba nokutheleleka
kwe-measles okungu-12,000 ezinyangeni ezimbili,

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okungu-9,000 kwalokhu kwadinga ukulaliswa esibhedlela
kanti okungu-1,600 kwalokhu kwaholela ku-measles enzima.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu kukhombisa lokho esasikhuluma ngakho
ngaphambilini, ukuthi abantu abagonyiwe bangasakaza lesi sifo.

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Ukuhlolwa kwamazinga e-antibodi
okulahlekile kanye ne-hyperimmunity

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UDkt. András Guseo: Ngakho-ke kwakungekho izifo ze-measles
e-Ukraine, kodwa lapho baqala ukugoma ngomuthi

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ogcwele amagciwane aphilayo, abantu abagonyiwe
basabalalisa lesi sifo kwaba nobhubhane osesabekayo.

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Ngakho-ke yinkinga enkulu kakhulu.

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Enye into wukuthi lemikhankaso yokugoma ayigcini ngokungabheki
ukuthi ngabe kukhona umuntu okhulelwe emndenini,

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kodwa futhi ayibheki ukuthi lowo ozogonywa
usenamabhomphuno okuvikela umzimba ku-mhlatshelo X.

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Ngamanye amazwi, inani elilinganisekayo
lama-antibodi, i-titre yama-antibodi.

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UDkt. András Guseo: Ngoba uma unomthamo
we-antibodi ophezulu ngokwanele, awudingi umuthi wokugoma.

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Yilokho okushiwo encwadini yemininingwane
yomkhiqizo. Yebo. Kodwa lokho akukaze kuphenywe.

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Futhi ezimweni eziningana ezazidinga ukungenelela kwezomthetho,
izinga lama-antibodi lalilinganiswa, futhi laliphezulu kakhulu.

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Uma usebenzisa umuthi wokugoma i-measles kulesi zinga eliphezulu
kakhulu, udala i-hyperimmunity, futhi okubi kwe-hyperimmunity

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wukuthi ikhuthaza ukukhula kwezifo ze-autoimmune.

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Futhi lapho uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba lugcwele umthwalo,
okungukuthi luvuswa ngokweqile, luyadukiswa kalula kakhulu.

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Kokubili utheleleko lwe-measles kanye nomuthi wokugoma kuvuselela
umzimba ukuthi ukhiqize ama-antibodi alwa

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ne-myelin basic protein ebuchosheni, futhi kusukela
lapho umzimba usengesimo sokuzivikela komzimba.

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Lokho akusho ukuthi uzogula ngokushesha – kungaba ngemuva konyaka
owodwa, emibili, emihlanu, emishumi noma emishumi nanhlanu.

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Ngoba-ke, lapho uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba luthola omunye
walezi zikhuthazi, noma ngabe ngomjovo wokugoma, olunye

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utheleleko lwe-virus, ezinye izici zangaphandle,
ukucindezeleka, njll., uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba

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luqala ukuhlasela okuzenzakalelayo ohlelweni lwezinzwa.

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UMBOPHEZELEKILE WOMKHIQIZI, I-ANTENNA YE-ALUMINIYAMU

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UDkt. András Guseo: Kusukela ekudlulisweni koMthetho ka-1986,
akukho mthwalo womkhiqizi wokuhlola umuthi wokugoma ngokwanele.

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Ucwaningo olungakhethi, olungabonakali kabili, olulawulwa
nge-placebo, ucwaningo olwenziwa ezikhungweni eziningi, oluthatha

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iminyaka emibili, njengoba empeleni kudingeka kuwo
wonke amakhambi kulo mkhakha, akukaze kwenziwe emithini

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yokugoma. Akukaze kwenziwe ngisho nakugoma okukodwa.

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Awudingi ukubheka kude ukuze uthole izibonelo.

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Isibonelo esihle kakhulu yisifo
esisha esisabalele emhlabeni jikelele.

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Umuthi wokugoma owawusetshenziswa watholakala ezinyangeni
ezimbalwa nje emva kokuqhuma kokutheleleka kwegciwane, kanti

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ngokujwayelekile kuthatha iminyaka emihlanu
kuya kweyi-eight ukuhlola umuthi wokugoma ukuze

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kubonakale ukuthi usebenza ngempela yini noma cha.

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Lena into eyodwa. Okunye ukuthi abazange
benze ucwaningo lwe-placebo, ngakho-ke abazange

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baqhathanise umphumela nomuthi ongasebenzi.

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Abakakwenzi lokho kunoma iyiphi imijovo yokugoma,
ngakho-ke asazi ukuthi imijovo yokugoma isebenza kangakanani.

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Siyazi ukuthi kunezinkinga, ikakhulukazi
lapho kunikezwa umjovo wokugoma ohlanganisiwe .

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Kunezibonelo eziningi zokuthi ingane
eneminyaka ezinyangeni ezimbili, ezintathu noma ezine

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ithola imijovo eyisithupha ngasikhathi sinye.

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Futhi lokho akubandakanyi zonke izitozo zokugoma ezivikela kuzo
zonke izinhlobo zamagciwane ezifakiwe kulesi sigomelo esiningi,

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ngoba lezi zitozo eziyisithupha zigxile
ekulweni nezinhlobo zamagciwane ezingaphezu

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kweziyishumi noma ezingaphezu kweziyishumi nambili.

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Nokho, uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba
lomntwana onenyanga ezimbili alukakakhuli.

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Kuncike ekumelaneni komama nezifo.
Futhi lokhu kumelana nezifo kubuthakathaka.

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Manje uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba womntwana luqala ukuthuthuka.

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Futhi siyiphusha ngesikhuthazo
esikhulu kangaka. Kuyamangalisa nje.

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Inkinga enye, enkulu kakhulu, wukuthi
ubuchopho balo mntwana abusakathuthuki; busathuthuka.

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Futhi ebuchosheni kunesithiyo
esivikela, okuthiwa isithiyo segazi nobuchopho.

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Ngakho-ke, okungena egazini akwazi ukungena ngqo ebuchosheni.

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Nokho, lesi sivikelo sokuvikela asikakhiqizwa ezinganeni.

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Lokho okunikezwa ingane futhi kungena egazini,
ngaleyo ndlela kungena ebuchosheni kungavikelwanga.

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Inkinga ukuthi imijovo yokugoma iyizikhuthazi
zokuzivikela komzimba ezibuthakathaka kakhulu.

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Ukuze ngempela bakhuthaze uhlelo lokuzivikela
komzimba, kufanele kwengezwe ama-adjuvants , okubangela

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ukuthi uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba luqale ukusebenza.

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Futhi lo msizi emajabini yi-aluminium.

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Umlawuli: Bengicabanga ukuthi lokho
kuhlanganiswe kuzo zonke izitozo?

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UDkt. András Guseo: Imijovo yayivame
ukuba ne-mercury, kodwa ngenhlanhla yavinjwa.

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Kodwa kusekhona ezinye; umuthi
wokugoma i-hepatitis B usaqukethe i-mercury.

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Umjovo wokugoma umkhuhlane ungase usenayo i-mercury.

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Futhi leli aluminium lingena ebuchosheni ngokulingana.

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Futhi i-aluminium ivuswa kumaseli omsipha ngenxa
yokukhishwa kukagesi kwe-Wi-Fi noma kwefoni ephathekayo.

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Kuyoba ngumamukeli wabo, i-antenna yabo.

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Futhi lokho kudala umphumela
wogesi-magnethi omangalisayo ebuchosheni.

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Amaseli omsipha ebuchosheni nawo akhiqiza amagagasi
kagesi-magnethi, futhi wonke amaseli omzimba wami

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azwa la magagasi, ahlinzeka amaseli ami ngamandla.

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Uma manje ngibeka lo mzimba ensimini kagesi-magnetiki futhi
ngiwubeke ekuchayekeni ku-Wi-Fi – 50 Hz –

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nakwezinye izigxivizo zomsakazo weselula, khona-ke lezi
zithinta umsebenzi wami wangaphakathi kagesi-magnetiki.

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Futhi uma ngine-antenna ebuchosheni bami, lokho
kuzoba nomthelela omkhulu kakhulu ohlelweni

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lwami oluyinhloko lokulawula, umsebenzi walo weseli.

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HUNGARY – AKEKHO ONESIBOPHO NGOMONAKALO WEMJEKELO

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: E-Hungary, umthetho ubhalwe
ngendlela yokuthi akekho umkhiqizi, udokotela noma umbuso

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onecala nganoma yiluphi umonakalo obangelwa umuthi wokugoma.

251
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Umphumela walokhu wukuthi uma kungekho
izijeziso, akekho ozolandela imithetho.

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Lena yimithetho yemvelo!

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Njengoba kungekho udokotela, umbuso noma umkhiqizi
onecala eHungary, udokotela akagcwalisi isibopho

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sakhe sokwazisa isiguli ngemiphumela yesitofu sokugoma.

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Akasebenzi ezingeni elidingekayo
ngoba akakafundi ukuthi enzeni kanjalo.

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Ngakho-ke silwela labo abathintekile abasiza
ngoba kumele badlule ochungechungeni lokuhlupheka.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, akekho ongabekwa
icala, ngakho siqhubeka sihlulwa kaningi.

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Kodwa siyamelana, izimangalo zethu ziyaqhubeka, futhi kumele
siqale kabusha kaningi ukuze sikhulule abantu ekugonyweni.

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ISINQUMO SOKUZIKHETHA SOKUGOMA

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Ngakho-ke
kungaba kuhle uma izinto ezimbili zenzeka:

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Okokuqala, lokho i-United States of America ekulwela khona,
nalokho okuphathwa kukaKennedy, okungukuthi

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ukuphathwa kukaTrump, ekulwela khona, kuwukubeka
umkhawulo kulokhu kungathembeki kwabakhiqizi.

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Lokhu kufanele futhi kufezeke eHungary ukuze labo abaphethe
umthwalo wemfanelo bangasakwazi ukugwema ukubhekana nemiphumela.

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Futhi udokotela naye kufanele abhekelwe icala.

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Ngoba bazokhuthazeka kuphela ukufundisa abantu ngezingozi
zokugoma uma bengabekwa icala ngokulimala abakubangelayo.

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Futhi okunye ukuthi ngokushesha nje lapho lo mthetho ususwa –
lapho kungekho udokotela noma umbuso onomthwalo wemfanelo

267
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ngokulimala okubangelwa ukugonywa – ulwazi mayelana nemiphumela
engemihle yokugonywa luzodluliselwa nabaguli nabazali.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, uma ukugonywa bekungokuzithandela,
bekungeke sidinge ukudlula kuleli zinga lobunzima, lapho

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empeleni silwa ukuze sivikele izimpilo zezingane zethu.

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Umlawuli: Kulungile, udokotela kumele afunge
ukuthi uzokwelapha noma akakwenzi umonakalo.

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Hhayi-ke, ake sihlolisise lokhu kancane:

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Ngakho-ke uma udokotela efunga isifungo ngalokhu, kodwa-ke hhayi
kuphela ehluleka ukudlulisa ulwazi mayelana nokugoma, kodwa futhi

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ehluleka ukwenza izivivinyo ngaphambi kwalokho ukuze
athole ukuthi ingabe lo mntwana uzogula kamuva noma cha,

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khona-ke usefungile isifungo sakhe ngokungenamsebenzi.

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Empeleni, waphula isifungo sakhe.

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Asinayo nje
eyodwa yalezi zimo – sinazo eziningana!

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Akuyona nje isimangalo. Siyamangalela odokotela ngokukhethekile.

278
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Ngoba, noma kungasebenzi ngale ndlela, kuwumthetho eHungary:

279
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:07,845
Uma udokotela ebhala ukuthi ingane ayikwazi
ukugonywa ngenxa yezizathu zezempilo,

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iziphathimandla kufanele ziyisuse ekufunweni kokugonywa.

281
00:26:11,983 --> 00:26:19,495
Sinezimo lapho odokotela ababili nodokotela
abane babhale ukuthi ingane ayikwazi ukugonywa.

282
00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:25,174
Abazali bathatha lokhu baya eziphathimandla,
iziphathimandla zibeka umeluleki wokugoma okubizwa kanjalo –

283
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okuyisikhungo eHungary – ongakaze ambone ingane ngaphambili.

284
00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:37,026
Odokotela ababili abelapha, noma-ke odokotela abane abelapha
ngempela lo mntwana, abanye babo iminyaka

285
00:26:37,026 --> 00:26:47,083
eyisishiyagalombili, abanye iminyaka emine, futhi babhala
kumakhasi ambalwa ukuthi lo mntwana angafa ngenxa yokugoma.

286
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:57,107
Umeluleki wokugoma akabheki ngisho nengane, ufunda
nje okutholakele – ngikhuluma ngezimo ezithile –

287
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bese ebhala ngemigqa emine ukuthi ingane ingagonywa.

288
00:27:05,824 --> 00:27:08,480
Umlawuli: Futhi laba bangodokotela?

289
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,800
UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Odokotela,
odokotela, odokotela abaqeqeshiwe ngokukhethekile.

290
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:21,362
Mayelana nombuzo omunye: Yebo, siphinde simangalela
odokotela abangakayikhiphi izixolelo zokungagonywa

291
00:27:21,362 --> 00:27:27,204
kwabantwana abafanele ngempela ukukhululwa kulomgonyo.

292
00:27:27,204 --> 00:27:32,348
Futhi udokotela wabhala phansi.
Sinezikhalazo eziningana ezinjalo.

293
00:27:32,348 --> 00:27:38,446
Futhi odokotela abaningi abahlukene babhala ukuthi uma
kukhulunywa ngemijovo eyimpoqo, abacabangi ngenhlalakahle

294
00:27:38,446 --> 00:27:43,401
yengane, kodwa kunalokho bacabangela
intshisekelo yomphakathi, futhi le ngane kumele ithole

295
00:27:43,401 --> 00:27:48,236
imijovo ukuze kufezeke ukumelana komphakathi.

296
00:27:48,236 --> 00:27:51,069
Umlawuli: Futhi-ke akubalulekile ukuthi ingane inani.

297
00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:55,822
UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Lokhu nakho kwenziwa lapho kuneingozi
enkulu kakhulu yokuthi ingane ife ngenxa yokugonywa lokhu.

298
00:27:55,822 --> 00:27:59,824
Futhi sizofaka lokhu esitatimendeni
sokumangalela. Sinezimangalo eziningana ezinjalo.

299
00:27:59,824 --> 00:28:05,391
UKUNYUKA KWENANI LEZINGANE EZINE-AUTISIMU

300
00:28:05,391 --> 00:28:10,148
UDkt. András Guseo: I-CDC ishicilele idatha
emangazayo ekhombisa ukuthi izingane

301
00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:14,740
ezisanda kuzalwa ezingaki e-USA ezizoba ne-autismu.

302
00:28:18,211 --> 00:28:23,781
Ngo-2020, inani lalingu-158.

303
00:28:23,781 --> 00:28:29,784
Uma sibuyela emuva eminyakeni eyishumi
nanhlanu, inani lalingelilodwa kwabangu-10 000.

304
00:28:29,784 --> 00:28:33,280
Umlawuli: Ingabe kungu-158 kwezingu-10,000?

305
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,662
UDkt. András Guseo: Cha, ingane eyodwa
kwabangu-158 abazalwa izoba ne-autism.

306
00:28:38,662 --> 00:28:43,224
Futhi eminyakeni edlule, inani elalibhalwe njengereferensi laya
lihlala lincane kancane, kanti ngonyaka

307
00:28:43,224 --> 00:28:48,755
odlule kwaba nengane eyodwa ene-autismu
phakathi kokuzalwa kwabantu abayisishiyagalolunye.

308
00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:54,453
Uhlelo lwezibalo lwehla kakhulu – okusho
ukuthi izingane ezingezona ezine-autism sezincane

309
00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:57,701
kakhulu phakathi kwezingane ezisanda kuzalwa.

310
00:28:57,701 --> 00:29:02,598
Futhi uma ngiqinisile, isisekelo
sizofinyelelwa eminyakeni emibili.

311
00:29:02,598 --> 00:29:09,527
Lokhu kusho ukuthi wonke umntwana
ozalelwe eMelika angaba ne-autismu.

312
00:29:09,527 --> 00:29:14,656
UDkt. András Guseo: Lokho kubi
nje. Ngakubuka ekhaya, ezweni lethu.

313
00:29:14,656 --> 00:29:20,373
Futhi ngithanda ukukubonisa idatha yakamuva kulesi shadi.

314
00:29:20,373 --> 00:29:27,084
Ibonisa inani lezingane ezine-autism ezineminyaka
engu-2 kuya kwengu-18 ezibikiwe yizikole kuzwelonke

315
00:29:27,084 --> 00:29:32,372
ekupheleni kukaSepthemba kusukela ngo-2018 kuya ku-2024.

316
00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:42,435
Futhi kubonisa ukuthi ukunyuka kubaluleke
kakhulu, kufinyelela ku-121% eminyakeni eyisikhombisa.

317
00:29:44,286 --> 00:29:52,474
Lokhu kusho ukuthi inani lezingane
ezine-autism ezikoleni liyanda cishe ngo-17% ngonyaka.

318
00:29:54,465 --> 00:30:00,857
Nikoletta Kertész: Kwathi-ke kwethulwa umjovo wokugoma
i-chickenpox, nomjovo wokugoma i-pneumococcal, eyayivikela

319
00:30:00,857 --> 00:30:08,394
ezinhlotsheni eziyi-13 ezahlukene zama-pneumococcal – manje
sekukhona izinhlobo eziyi-20. Futhi le nqubo iyaqhubeka ikhula.

320
00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:17,765
Manje sicela ngempela ukuthi kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi
kube nezingane ezingakakwazi ukukhuluma ngeminyaka emithathu.

321
00:30:17,765 --> 00:30:23,794
Ngakho-ke kungaba kanjani ukuthi izingane eziningi zingene
esikoleni sabantwana abancane zineminyaka emithathu ngaphandle

322
00:30:23,794 --> 00:30:27,155
kokukwazi ukukhuluma noma ukusebenzisa indlu yangasese?

323
00:30:27,155 --> 00:30:31,601
Futhi lezi zingane zisifika kithi
ngobuningi kulo lonke izwe – hhayi kithi kuphela.

324
00:30:31,601 --> 00:30:35,925
Bazobekwa ezindleleni zokweseka ezikhona.

325
00:30:35,925 --> 00:30:42,998
Hhayi-ke, akukho lizwe emhlabeni lapho kunezikhungo
zokweseka ezizimele, izikhungo zokwelapha ezizimele kanye

326
00:30:42,998 --> 00:30:47,033
nothisha bezidingo ezikhethekile abaningi kunaseHungary.

327
00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:53,035
Lokhu kukhombisa isidingo esikhulu, futhi asisakwazi ukwenza
izikhathi zokubhuka – akukho kulezi zikhungo okusakwazi

328
00:30:53,035 --> 00:30:56,644
ukwenza ezinye izikhathi zokubhuka. Kunezicelo eziningi kakhulu.

329
00:30:56,644 --> 00:31:01,263
Kuyisifo esisabalele, hhayi kuphela ngenani lezingane
ezine-autismu, kodwa futhi ngoba

330
00:31:01,263 --> 00:31:08,158
ukuziphatha kwalezi zingane kuhlukile kakhulu
ekuziphatheni okunempilo. Lokhu sekungasenqatshwa.

331
00:31:08,158 --> 00:31:12,349
UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Yingakho sihlale simemezela
ukuthi izimemezelo zenkantolo zivulekile

332
00:31:12,349 --> 00:31:15,780
emphakathini, ukuze abantu bakwazi ukuya ezimemezelo zenkantolo.

333
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:19,936
Besihlale simema abantu uma iklayenti livuma.

334
00:31:19,936 --> 00:31:28,279
Uthisha wesikole samabanga aphezulu wake wabamba iqhaza kuleli
cala lenkantolo ngoba wabona ukuthi kwabantwana abangu-47

335
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:34,536
ababebambe ukuhlolwa kokungena esikoleni
samabanga aphezulu, abangu-20 babo babe nezidingo

336
00:31:34,536 --> 00:31:38,972
ezikhethekile zemfundo – iningi labo laline-autism.

337
00:31:38,972 --> 00:31:46,555
Akuzange kube thina, kodwa kwaba yinhlangano ehlukile eyabuza
Amazwe Angamalungu e-European Union – amazwe lapho ukugoma

338
00:31:46,555 --> 00:31:53,288
kungaphoqelekile – ukuthi kungani ukugoma kungaphoqelekile.

339
00:31:53,288 --> 00:32:02,658
Futhi baphendula mayelana nezinsizakalo esasivele
sizazi, okungukuthi azihambisani nomthethosisekelo.

340
00:32:06,413 --> 00:32:12,625
Isizathu sokuthi ukugonywa okuphoqelekile kungavumelani
nomthethosisekelo – futhi kungavumelani nomthethosisekelo

341
00:32:12,625 --> 00:32:17,018
yonke indawo emhlabeni – ukuthi ungafa ngenxa yokugonywa.

342
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:20,964
Lokho kuyiqiniso. Akunakuphikwa.

343
00:32:20,964 --> 00:32:30,203
Ungafa ngenxa yethebhulethi ye-aspirini; ungahlaselwa
i-anaphylaxis nganoma yini. Ngakho-ke ungafa ngenxa yayo.

344
00:32:30,203 --> 00:32:37,324
Akumelwe ngokomthethosisekelo ukubhalela umuthi ongakubulala.

345
00:32:37,324 --> 00:32:40,946
Kwephula ilungelo lokuphila.

346
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,206
Ngakolunye uhlangothi, abantu abazi lutho ngakho
ngoba kuthengiswa njengomsebenzi ophoqelekile futhi

347
00:32:48,206 --> 00:32:54,050
imijovo ingaba yinhle kuphela futhi awukwazi ukufa ngayo.

348
00:32:54,050 --> 00:33:02,695
Ngaphezu kokushintsha komthetho, kumele futhi
kube nomkhankaso wokwazisa ukuze kwaziswe abantu.

349
00:33:04,764 --> 00:33:14,005
Ukugonywa okuphoqelekile kumele kususwe futhi
abantu kumele baziswe ngezinzuzo, izingozi, ubungozi,

350
00:33:14,005 --> 00:33:20,476
njll. bokugonywa – odokotela, imidiya nohulumeni.

351
00:33:20,476 --> 00:33:29,650
UDkt. András Guseo: Futhi-ke, uma ubheka namuhla, i-CDC,
esiyishilo kaningi, i-US Centre for Disease Control, okungukuthi

352
00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:35,278
igunya laseMelika kwezokutheleleka, nayo iyisabalalisi yamajovo.

353
00:33:35,278 --> 00:33:41,303
Ngakho-ke inobudlelwano obuqondile nabakhiqizi bemijovo
yokugoma, futhi kusezinsizakalweni zabo ukuletha emakethe

354
00:33:41,303 --> 00:33:45,196
imijovo yokugoma eminingi ngangokunokwenzeka. Lokho kucacile.

355
00:33:45,196 --> 00:33:52,498
Inkinga enkulu wukuthi ngesikhathi ngiqala umsebenzi wami
eminyakeni engu-60 edlule futhi ngenza ukuhlolwa kwami

356
00:33:52,498 --> 00:34:00,144
kobungcweti kwe-neurology ne-psychiatry, umqondo
wokuzivikela komzimba wawukhona, kodwa wawungahlangene nezifo.

357
00:34:00,144 --> 00:34:04,321
Angikaze ngizwe nge-autism, futhi asizange sifunde lutho ngayo.

358
00:34:04,321 --> 00:34:07,455
Namuhla, izinhlobo zombili zezifo ziyanda.

359
00:34:07,455 --> 00:34:13,796
Hhayi-ke, lapha ungabona ukwanda, futhi
sesingakhuluma ngempandemikhi namuhla, ngoba akukho mndeni

360
00:34:13,796 --> 00:34:17,582
ongenayo isifo sokuzivikela komzimba phakathi kwabo.

361
00:34:17,582 --> 00:34:25,789
Akukho umndeni ongenalo ingane ene-autism noma
ingane enezinkinga zokuziphatha ehlala eduze kwabo.

362
00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:32,978
Uhlelo oluyinhloko aluvumeli noma yikuphi ukuphikisana

363
00:34:32,978 --> 00:34:38,846
UDkt. András Guseo: Iphuzu elilodwa elibaluleke kakhulu engifuna
ukulenza wukuthi akukho ucwaningo olusemthethweni mayelana

364
00:34:38,846 --> 00:34:43,161
nokugoma olubhekana nemiphumela yesikhathi eside yokugoma.

365
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,708
Kwenzekani kubantu abagonyiwe emva kweminyaka
eyishumi, engamashumi amabili noma engamashumi amathathu?

366
00:34:53,241 --> 00:35:02,394
E-United States, kunocwaningo olubizwa nge-VAERS ,
oluhlolisise abantu abangama-35 000 abagonyiwe nabangagonywanga.

367
00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:08,040
Kwavela ukuthi labo abebegonyelwe babegula kakhulu, banezinye
izifo eziqinisekisiwe, baya kudokotela

368
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,622
kaningi kunalabo abangagonyelwanga, kanti labo
abangagonyelwanga babe sempilweni engcono.

369
00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:29,596
Kodwa abantu abafuni ukukhuluma ngakho, yingakho empeleni
kungekho datha ngakho, futhi yilona inkinga enkulu kunazo zonke:

370
00:35:29,596 --> 00:35:36,231
Isayensi namuhla inamandla okulawula izincwadi
zesayensi kangangokuthi uma umuntu efuna ukubhala

371
00:35:36,231 --> 00:35:41,739
okungahambisani nombono ojwayelekile, ngeke kushicilelwe.

372
00:35:47,382 --> 00:35:54,001
UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Futhi okunye okubaluleke kakhulu
okwashiwo ngu-András, ngoba kukhona odokotela, nakuba bebanqabile

373
00:35:54,001 --> 00:35:59,260
kakhulu, abanesibindi sokubhala ukuthi ingane ayinakugonywa.

374
00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:07,664
Futhi inkonzo yezempilo yomphakathi ithatha
izinyathelo zomthetho ngalaba madokotela ngoba babhale lokho.

375
00:36:07,664 --> 00:36:10,384
Impela, akubekwa kanjalo.

376
00:36:10,384 --> 00:36:16,678
Abanye odokotela abathintekayo bathola nje
ucingo olubatshela ukuthi bangaphindi benze lokhu.

377
00:36:16,678 --> 00:36:24,504
Ngokumelene nabanye, izinqubo
ezisemthethweni ziqalwa ngezizathu ezahlukene.

378
00:36:24,504 --> 00:36:33,272
Futhi ukuze abantu bazi imithetho: uma iziphathimandla zezempilo
zithola ukwephulwa – futhi lokhu kusebenza nakubantu ngabanye

379
00:36:33,272 --> 00:36:40,509
ngisho nakubazali abangavumeli izingane zabo zithole imijovo
yokugoma – bangahlawuliswa phakathi kuka-30

380
00:36:40,509 --> 00:36:48,132
000 no-5 000 000 ama-forinti , futhi lokhu
kungaphindwa kaningi ngokwephulwa ngakunye.

381
00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:58,952
Ngakho-ke odokotela abaningi bangalindela iziphindiselo
ngisho noma bevuma noma bebika umphumela ongathandeki ngomlomo.

382
00:37:00,838 --> 00:37:05,098
Umlawuli: Ingabe lokho kuzoshintsha? Ingabe
lokho esikuxoxa ngakho kuzoshintsha? Usebenze

383
00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:08,889
kulo msebenzi iminyaka eminingi manje, akunjalo?

384
00:37:08,889 --> 00:37:12,701
UDkt. András Guseo: Sithemba ukuthi
okuthile kuzoshintsha. Sesizamile.

385
00:37:12,701 --> 00:37:20,422
Cishe izinyanga eziyisithupha ezedlule, samema abamele
abahamba phambili kulo mkhakha emhlanganweni ukuze sixoxe

386
00:37:20,422 --> 00:37:25,065
ngalolu daba, sizwe imibono yabo futhi sikhombise eyethu.

387
00:37:25,065 --> 00:37:27,180
Kodwa kwakufana nesivalo sensimbi:

388
00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:33,647
Akekho owafika, kwathi kamuva emhlanganweni
wabezindaba esasiwumemele amalungu ezabezindaba

389
00:37:33,647 --> 00:37:37,457
angama-40, kwalandela inkantolo yensimbi efanayo.

390
00:37:37,457 --> 00:37:40,943
Ngakho-ke akukho ingxoxo.

391
00:37:40,943 --> 00:37:45,099
Ngakho-ke, kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi kube nokushintsha?

392
00:37:45,099 --> 00:37:50,398
UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Hhayi-ke,
u-András uthe akekho owamukelayo izimemo.

393
00:37:52,816 --> 00:37:59,819
Baphoqa ukugoma okubalulekile futhi... I-Hungary
ngempela iyona kuphela izwe emhlabeni lapho kukhona

394
00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:06,353
lesi saba sokwesabisa sokugoma. Ngikuhlolile lokhu.

395
00:38:06,353 --> 00:38:11,642
Kodwa ingane eyodwa kuphela esifundeni esincane ithole usizo.

396
00:38:11,642 --> 00:38:18,703
Siyalwa, futhi sesifike esigabeni lapho enkantolo, ekuhlolweni
kwecala, ngemva kokulahlekelwa yicala, sizizwa

397
00:38:18,703 --> 00:38:25,627
sengathi siyalahlekelwa yizo zonke izicelo zethu.
Naphezu kobufakazi esinabo bokweseka icala lethu.

398
00:38:25,627 --> 00:38:33,543
Futhi ijaji, esesizwa ukuzisola, ithi akukho nkinga,
singaphinda sifake isicelo sokukhululwa ekugonyweni.

399
00:38:33,543 --> 00:38:35,683
Futhi konke kuqala kabusha.

400
00:38:35,683 --> 00:38:38,316
Lokhu akuyona nje imvo yomahluleli oyedwa, kodwa yeziningana.

401
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:41,826
Ngakho-ke siqala izinqubo kaningi kaningi, kaningi kaningi.

402
00:38:41,826 --> 00:38:46,740
Ezinye izingane zigcinwa ziphila ngale ndlela.

403
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:51,452
Uhlelo lonke lwezomthetho lwakhiwe
ngendlela yokuthi empeleni kwadingeka sakhe

404
00:38:51,452 --> 00:38:55,284
isikhala somthetho – luhlobo lomshini oqhubekayo.

405
00:38:55,284 --> 00:39:00,567
Uma singakwazi ukukhulula ingane
ekugonyweni, sifuna okungenani ukuqhubeka nenqubo

406
00:39:00,567 --> 00:39:03,824
yokukhulula isikhathi eside ngangokunokwenzeka.

407
00:39:03,824 --> 00:39:10,608
Ngoba inqobo nje uma lokhu kuqhubeka, abakwazi
ukusinika isijeziso noma ukuthatha ingane bayoyigonyela.

408
00:39:10,608 --> 00:39:13,839
Yingakho siqhubeka siphinda.

409
00:39:16,919 --> 00:39:22,666
Futhi kukhona okunye okubalulekile okufanele kusho
mayelana nezinyathelo ezithathwe ngokumelene nathi.

410
00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:26,064
Singabameli abathathu abasebenza kulezi zindaba.

411
00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:33,248
Futhi thina sonke esithathu sibizwa ngokuthi abaphikisi
bemijovo yokugoma futhi kuthiwa siyingozi emphakathini.

412
00:39:33,248 --> 00:39:39,238
Basisungula izinqubo zokuziphatha ngokumelene nathi – futhi
uma ngenxa yalokho silahlekelwa ubulungu bethu eNhlanganweni

413
00:39:39,238 --> 00:39:42,968
Yabameli, ngeke sibe sesivunyelwe ukusebenza njengabameli.

414
00:39:42,968 --> 00:39:45,761
Omunye wozakwethu wakhululwa kulesi simangalo.

415
00:39:45,761 --> 00:39:52,448
Kusamele izinqubo zokuziphatha ngokumelene nami ngoba
ngingumuntu ophikisa ukugoma futhi onobungozi emphakathini.

416
00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:58,471
Futhi izinqubo zokuziphatha nazo seziyaqhubeka
ngokumelene nomunye osebenza naye. Ngakho-ke...

417
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Umlawuli: Lapho ngikhuluma ngezihloko ezinjalo
kumavidiyo ami, ngihlala ngithi awudingi ukungikholwa.

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Ngithi: bheka bese wenza iziphetho zakho.

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Lena umbuzo wolwazi.

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Futhi ngolwazi oluningi kangaka, njengamanje
kulesi sixoxo, abantu bangaqala ku-inthanethi.

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Umlawuli: Ngiyabonga kakhulu!