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E-Hungary, kunezinkinga eziningi zezempilo phakathi
kwezingane ezisanda kuzalwa, izingane, abasha nabantu abadala.

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Ububanzi bokuthi lezi zilonda zihlobene kangakanani nokugonywa
kwangaphambilini kuxoxwa ngakho engxoxweni elandelayo nodokotela

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nommeli waseHungary, kanye nomama othinteke kule ndaba onezingane
ezintathu ezazizalwe ziphilile kodwa manje ezikhubazekile.

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Ngokocwaningo lwabo, inani lezingane ezitholakale
zine-autismu emva kokugonywa lenyuke kakhulu eHungary.

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Izinhlelo eziningi zaseHungary zinakekela lezi zingane,
zizisekela – noma zilwela nabazali bazo ukuqinisekisa ukuthi

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ukugoma okusemthethweni kwezingane akusabophekile eHungary.

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Ukugonywa okuphoqelekile? Ingabe
ukugonywa ngempela kuphoqelekile eHungary?

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Eqinisweni, ukugoma kokuqala okuphoqelekile
kwethulwa eHungary kusukela ngo-1876, kanti

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okunye kwalandela ngo-1954 naseziminyaka yama-1960.

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Namuhla, zonke izingane ezisanda kuzalwa eHungary zithola umjovo
wokuvikela i-TB ngaphandle kokubuza abazali bazo ngaphambilini.

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Ngo-1997 nango-1998, uMnyango Wezempilo
waseHungary wamisa imithetho yezempilo eyethula

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ukugoma okwengeziwe ngokumelene nezifo eziningana.

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Njengamanje, izingane zaseHungary zithola imijovo eminingi
eyingozi yokuvikela i-diphtheria, i-whooping cough, i-tetanus,

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i-polio kanye ne-Haemophilus influenzae uhlobo
b lapho zineminyaka ezingu-2 izinyanga, 3

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izinyanga, 4 izinyanga kanye nezinyanga eziyi-18.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, imijovo yokugoma
ye-pneumococcal inikezwa ezinyangeni eziyi-2, 4 no-12 zobudala.

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Umjovo wokuhlanganisa i-measles, i-mumps ne-rubella unikezwa
ezinyangeni eziyi-15 zobudala, kanti umjovo we-chickenpox

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unikezwa izingane ezinyangeni eziyi-13 neziyi-16 zobudala.

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Abazali baseHungary abakwazi ngempela ukukhulula izingane
zabo ekugonyweni okudingekayo, noma sekukhona ingane

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emndenini eseke yalimala kakhulu empilweni ngemuva kokugonywa.

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Lapho izingane ziqala ukuya endaweni yokunakekelwa kwezingane
nasemakilasini okufundela izingane, abahlengikazi

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bezingane nabasizi bokubeletha abazikhathalelayo kusukela
ekuzalweni kudingeka bahlolisise isimo sabo sokugonywa.

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Esikoleni, kunokugonywa okuningi kwazo zonke izigaba zezikilasi.

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Uma abazali benqaba ukuba ingane yabo ithole umjovo wokugoma,
udokotela wesikole kumele abike lokhu kugunyaziwe kwezempilo.

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Uma kuba nokungabaza, lokhu kungaholela
ezijezweni ezinzima nasekuxoshweni esikoleni.

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Isinqumo sango-2019 saphinde savumela
ukususwa kwezingane ezingagonyelwanga kubazali bazo.

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Engxoxweni, udokotela waseHungary ugcizelela ukuthi nezinye izici
nazo zingase zibe nendima ekunyukeni kokwenzeka

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kwezifo ezinganeni, njengokuthi inkinga yomhlaba wonke
yokudla okuguqulwe kakhulu, okungeyikho emvelweni.

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Nokho, kucacisiwe futhi ukuthi izifo ze-autoimmune,
ukuvuvukala, ukubambezeleka ekuthuthukeni, i-autism kanye nezifo

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eziningi ezintsha zokutheleleka zivame ukuvela ngemva kokugoma.

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Abashisekeli abathathu abaxoxwe nabo ngaleyo ndlela benza
umkhankaso wokuthi abakhiqizi bemijovo yokugoma babophezeleke

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ngokulimala okubangelwa yimijovo nokuthi
odokotela abagonyayo bagcwalise isibopho sabo

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sokwazisa iziguli ngemiphumela engemihle yokugoma.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, ukunqunywa kwamazinga ama-antibodi kumele
kwenziwe ngokuphuthuma ngaphambi kokugonywa kokwengeza

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okuhleliwe ukuze kuvinjelwe ukuzivikela komzimba ngokweqile
kanye nengozi ephathelene nesifo sokuzivikela komzimba.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, odokotela akufanele basolwe
ngokunikeza izitifiketi zokungavunyelwa ukugonywa,

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isibonelo ngokuvula izinqubo zomthetho ngokumelene nabo.

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Ngokuvamile, ukugoma kufanele kwenziwe kuphela ngokuzithandela –
lokhu futhi kuyacelwa abazali eJalimane

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abafuna ukuvikela izingane zabo emiphumeleni
engemihle yokugoma i-measles okudingekayo lapha.

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Lolu xoxiswano oluvusa imizwa lubonisa ukuthi ngisho naseHungary
– eseyindawo edume kakhulu yabokufika – akusikho konke okuhle.

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Ngenxa yemiphumela ebilokhu ivelaphi ngokusobala yokugonywa –
bheka futhi izimo eziningi zokulimala ezidalwe yizitofu zokugoma

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ze-coronavirus – kanye nokushintshela okuqhubekayo kuzo zonke
izitofu zokugoma kusetshenziswe izitofu ze-mRNA

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eziyingozi, ubunjalo bokuzithandela bokugonywa obucelwe kabanzi
busaqhubeka kuyindaba ebalulekile kwabanye abathintekayo.

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Ingxoxo: UKWETHULA AMAZINGANI BENGXOXO

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Umhleli (Dániel István): Ntambama emnandi,
ngiyanibingelela nonke ngokufudumele, futhi

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izivakashi zethu ngu-András, u-Angelika no-Niki.

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UDkt. András Guseo: NginguDkt. András Guseo, udokotela wezinzwa,
udokotela wezokwelapha kwengqondo, umcwaningi

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wamaseli ezinzwa, umcwaningi we-psycho-neuro-immunology,
umfundisi wokucindezeleka nodokotela wocwaningo.

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Njengelungu le-Hungarian Academy of Sciences,
bengihileleke ocwaningweni iminyaka engu-65.

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Izintshisekelo zami eziyinhloko zocwaningo zifaka
ukuzivikela komzimba okweqile, kanti muva nje futhi i-autismu

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njengendawo yezinkinga zokuzivikela komzimba okweqile.

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UDkt Angelika Mihalik: NginguAngelika Mihalik, ngingummeli.

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Ngibuyele emkhakheni wezomthetho izinyanga eziyishumi
nesishiyagalombili ezedlule – ngangishiye

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ngaphambilini ngoba bengingafuni ukuba umsolicitor noma ummeli.

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Yingakho ngathola iziqu ekuguquleleni kwezobuchwepheshe.
Bengiyazi isiNgisi futhi ngafunda ukuguqulela kwezobuchwepheshe

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ngesikhathi ngiyeka umsebenzi wami wezomthetho.

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Kusukela ngo-2019, bengihumusha izihloko
zezokwelapha eziphathelene ne-COVID-19, imijovo yokugoma

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i-COVID-19, kanye nocwaningo oluyinhloko lwabodokotela.

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Futhi njengoba ngabheka ngalokhu, ngahlangana nezihloko
ezikhethekile nezinkinga eziphathelene nemijovo yendabuko,

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futhi lapho ngabona ngempela okwenzekayo ngemijovo yendabuko.

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Kwafika lapho umuntu engangimhumusha yena wangithumelela
umlayezo ku-Messenger ethi sidinga uKennedy waseHungary

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, ngakho nganquma ukubuyela emsebenzini wokuba ngummeli.

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Angisho lokhu ngenxa yokuzigqaja,
kodwa ngoba yilokho okwabangela ngqo.

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Futhi uNiki waphinde wadlala indima ekwenza
ngiqaphele ukuthi kwakukhona inkinga ngoba kwakukhona

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imiphumela engemihle evela ekugonyweni okuphoqelekile.

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UNiki wangibonisa ubunzima balolu daba
olukhulu ngokungimema emcimbini womndeni endlini

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yakhe, lapho bekukhona izivakashi eziningi.

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Baphinde baletha izingane ezine noma ezinhlanu ezinobuthakathaka
bokuziphatha, ngakho-ke ngabona ubunzima benkinga.

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Lezi zizathu ezimbili zangenza ngabuyela emkhakheni wezomthetho.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho sidinga uKennedy waseHungary,
uma kungathiwa kanjalo. Yebo, Niki? Qhubeka.

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Nikoletta Kertész: NginguNikoletta
Kertész, ngaziwa kakhulu ngokuthi uNiki Kertész.

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Nginezingane ezintathu, zonke
ezintathu zilimele ngemijovo yokugoma.

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Lo muntu oneminyaka engu-24 ubudala waba
nokukhubazeka okukhulu kwengqondo, une-epilepsi futhi

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wahlangabezana nokuhlinzwa kobuchopho ngenxa yalokho.

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Omunye wamawele ami emshadweni wami wesibili waba ngumuntu
ongekwazi ukukhuluma, onokukhubazeka kwengqondo futhi one-autismu

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ngemva kokuthola umjovo we-MMR eneminyaka engu-15 izinyanga.

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Umfowabo owazalwa naye unokungezwani okukhulu
kokudla nokuvuvukala komgudu wokugaya, kodwa

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waphuma kulokho engaphazamisekile engqondweni.

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Ngazifuna futhi ngacwaninga izizathu, ngoba umuntu angacabanga
ukuthi awukwazi ukungena emfuleni ofanayo kabili, kodwa

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ungangena emfuleni we-autoimmunity kaningi ngangokuthanda kwakho.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokwempela, ngabona ukuthi kukhona
okungahambi kahle kubafana abaphindwe kabili, ngase

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ngiqala ukuhlola, futhi ngizokutshela lapha engikutholile.

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Eminyakeni eyishumi edlule, ngasungula iqembu le-Facebook
elibizwa ngokuthi "Autism Never Again" ngesistimu yokwelapha

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engiyithuthukisile esekelwe ekudleni nasekwelashweni okunye.

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Sisize izinkulungwane zabantu eqenjini ukunciphisa izimpawu zabo
ze-autism ne-ADHD – ngisho nangaphandle kwemingcele yeqembu.

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Ezinye izingane ngisho zasuswa ukuxilongwa kwazo kwe-autism.

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UKUGOMA OKUPHOQELEKILE EMHLABENI WONKE

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Umhleli: Ingabe izingane eHungary zithola
imijovo efanayo naleyo, isibonelo, e-Afrika?

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Ingabe imikhuba yokugoma ifana
emhlabeni wonke, noma kukhona umehluko?

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UDkt. András Guseo: Izindlela
zokugoma ziyahlukahluka ezweni ngalinye.

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Emazweni angu-18 kwezingu-30 aseYurophu, ukugoma akuphoqelekile,
noma uma kuphoqelekile, kungokugoma okukodwa noma

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okubili kuphela – ikakhulukazi ukuvimbela lezo
zifo ezibhekwa njengengozi enkulu kakhulu kulelo zwe.

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Yonke eminye imijovo yokugoma iyenziwa ngokuzithandela.

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UMPIKISWANO WOMTHETHO: UKUNGABI NOLWAZI NGOKUGOMA KWABAZALI

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Umlawuli: Hhayi-ke, Angelika, nginombuzo ngawe:

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Lapho abazali bephethe ingane yabo ukuze bayoyithatha
umhlangano wokugoma – lapha sikhuluma ngokugoma okusemthethweni

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– yiluphi ulwazi abazali abaluthola ngalokhu kugoma?

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Ingabe lo mbuzo uyinembuzo ebucayi?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Njengamanje
sinamacala enkantolo okungenani angu-150.

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Amaklayenti ethu ngokuyinhloko izingane
ezilimele; yibo abaphambili, futhi sithatha

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izinyathelo zomthetho egameni lezingane.

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Futhi iningi labo selizilimele
kakhulu noma kancane ngumuthi wokugoma.

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Noma beza kithi ngoba umfowabo noma udadewabo
walimala kakhulu ngenxa yokugonywa noma washona.

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Futhi ngeshwa, odokotela abafundiswa
ngokwanele noma ngokuningiliziwe eNyuvesi.

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Amakhosi okuqeqesha awafundisi mayelana nemijovo yokugoma noma
indlela esebenza ngayo, kodwa anikeza kuphela

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izibalo zokuthi kungani imijovo yokugoma imihle,
yiziphi imijovo yokugoma ezikhona, nokunye okunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke odokotela banolwazi oluncane
kakhulu lwangempela mayelana nemijovo yokugoma.

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Ngeshwa. Futhi mayelana nomshini wokusebenza kokugoma.

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Yingakho abazali nabo ngokusobala bengaziswa.

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Abazali bayaziswa kanjani? – Umthetho ka-1997 –
Zingaki izitozo ezikhona? – Ukuchithwa kwezitozo

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Umlawuli: Ngabe abazali bathola ishidi lolwazi
lapho izingane zabo sezizofakwa umjovo wokugoma?

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Ngakho-ke, incwadi yolwazi
mayelana nokuthi kuzokwenzekani enganeni?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Uzothola ishidi le-A4
elichaza ukuthi umjovo wokugoma usetshenzelwani.

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Umlawuli: Uyayithola lokho ngemva kokugonywa?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Cha, ngaphambi
kokugoma. Yilokho ingane ethatha ekhaya nayo.

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Kodwa ngizokhuluma ngesibonelo esisodwa
esibaluleke kakhulu, umuthi wokugoma i-MMR .

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I-MMR iqukethe i-rubella, futhi iyasabalala.

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Imiyalelo yokusebenzisa ithi kuyingozi kwabesifazane abakhulelwe.

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Lesi yisibonelo esithile kakhulu. Asifakiwe kumshicilelo wolwazi.

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Udokotela wesikole ubeka izingane
ngokulandelana, kodwa akasho lutho kuzo.

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Konke sekunakekelwe manje njengoba
leli shidi lolwazi selinikezwe abazali.

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Izingane zimi ngomugqa, akababuza noma ngubani wazo:
Ingabe umama wakho ukhulelwe? Ingabe udadewenu ukhulelwe?

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Lena isibonelo esithile kakhulu.

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Kukhona icala elithile lokuphuka kokukhulelwa okulandela
ukugonywa komfowabo noma udadewabo womntwana ongakazalwa.

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Ngakho-ke yilona uhlangothi olumnyama, njengoba wena usho.

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Abantu abanakunikezwa ulwazi olwanele.

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Umlawuli: Ingabe umthetho
wase-Hungary uthi abazali kumele baziswe?

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UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo. Umhleli:
Iyiphi leyo mthetho, futhi wamukelwa nini?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Lona uMthetho Wezempilo ka-1997.

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Umlawuli: Manje sesibhala u-2025? UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Kunjalo.

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Umlawuli: Sekuyiminyaka eminingi manje! Futhi akekho
owakubheka kusukela lapho? UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Cha.

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Umlawuli: Futhi zingaki izitozo
ezengeziwe ezilethelwe abantu kusukela ngo-1997?

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Nikoletta Kertész: kusukela ku-97, ngicabanga ukuthi
kungenzeka kunezinye eziyishumi. Impela kunezinye eziyishumi.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho-ke kunezokugoma eziyisibhozo
eziyisibonelelo okungukuthi kumele zenziwe.

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Kodwa umthetho weminyaka yama-1990
awuzange ubuyekezwe. Nikoletta Kertész: Kunjalo.

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IMIPHAKHASHE YOKUGOMA = UKUGOMA OKUPHOQELEKILE EZIKOLENI

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Nikoletta Kertész: Ukugoma kwezingane ezingakafundi esikoleni
ezineminyaka engu-0 kuya kwengu-6 kwenziwa ngendlela yokuthi

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abazali bathatha izingane zabo baye kudokotela wezingane
izikhathi eziyi-12, okusho ukuthi baye kudokotela wabo

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womndeni wezingane, owabanazisa kafushane futhi abagome lapho.

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Isinyathelo esilandelayo ukugoma esikoleni.

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Zibizwa ngokuthi imikhankaso yokugoma.

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Umlawuli: Iyini umkhankaso wokugoma?

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kungani lo
mqondo ubizwa kanjalo, umbuzo omuhle.

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Ngokuyisisekelo, kusho ukuthi esikoleni, izingane ekilasini
elithile ziqondiswa njengezimvu ziye kudokotela wesikole,

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kuqala ngazo zonke izingane zekilasi lesithupha, isibonelo.

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Ikilasi 6a esifundweni sokuqala, ikilasi 6b esifundweni sesibili,
ikilasi 6c esifundweni sesithathu. Bese kuba 7a, 7b, 7c.

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Futhi konke lokhu ngosuku olulodwa, njengomkhankaso
wokumaketha noma womkhankaso wezepolitiki noma wokukhangisa,

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ukuze bonke abafundi bathole le mjekelo ngesikhathi esisodwa.

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Yingakho futhi ebizwa ngokuthi umkhankaso wokugoma eHungary.

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Umlawuli: Ngakho-ke lokho kuyimpoqo.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kuyimpoqo, yebo. Ngakho-ke kunezitozo
ezinikezwa odokotela bezingane kanye nezitozo zesikole

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ezihlelwe esikoleni ukuze zonke izingane zibe endaweni eyodwa.

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Lokho kwenza kube lula ukugonyela
wonke umuntu ngalolo suku, bese usuqedile.

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Abazali abadingi ukuthatha izingane zabo kudokotela
ngokwabo, futhi akudingeki ukuthi iziphathimandla zihlolisise

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kamuva ukuthi ubani osogonyiwe nokuthi ubani ongakagonywa.

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ISHIDI LOLWAZI NGOKUGOMA

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: Nikoletta Kertész: Wonke umuthi nomjovo
wokugoma kuza nemininingwane yomkhiqizo.

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Leli incwadi yezihluthulelo, elifakiwe
kuphakethe, alifani nelikhiqizwe ngumkhiqizi.

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Ngakho-ke, kunencwadi yemininingwane yephakheji
ekhiqizwa ngumkhiqizi, bese kukhona enye udokotela ayithola.

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Kukhona isincomo, okusho ulwazi olufushane olufanele kube lwanele
kubazali, bese kuba nesigaba esifushane kakhulu okucelwa

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abazali ukuba basayine, esisho kuphela, isibonelo,
ukuthi umjovo ungabangela umkhuhlane nokubomvu kwesikhumba.

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Ngezinye izikhathi ngibonile ukuthi babhala ukuthi kungabangela
ukuzizwa udidekile noma ukuhlanza. Kodwa lokho kunqabile kakhulu.

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Lezi izimpawu ze-anaphylaxis .

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Kodwa ngabona kuphela lolu lwazi oluncane.

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Ngakho-ke lolu lwazi esiluthola thina abazali;
abazali abaningi bangiqinisekisile ngalokhu.

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AMAKHULU EZINTSHUBULA EZINTSHA NGENXUBO YOKUSHAYWA
KWEMVUBEKELO NGEMVA KOKUGOMA, ISIBONELO I-UKRAINE

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Umlawuli: Ngakho... uma beqala lo mkhankaso wokugoma lapha, uma
begoma izingane eziningi kangaka, ngabe kuzoba khona okuthile

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okufana nokuchitheka komuthi wokugoma –
ngamanye amazwi, ngabe kuzoba nezifo eziningi

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ezintsha ngokushesha ngemuva kwalokhu kugonywa?

15:36.465 --> 15:38.670
UDkt. András Guseo: Ngokomgomo, lokho kungenzeka.

15:38.670 --> 15:45.490
Impilo inikeze isibonelo esivelele salokhu,
njengoba kwatholakala e-Ukraine ukuthi izinga

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lokugonywa kwe-measles laliphansi kuka-35%.

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I-WHO ne-UNICEF zibonile lokhu, futhi ukuze "basize" i-Ukraine
ekunqobeni lesi simo esibi kakhulu sokuthi abantu, ikakhulukazi

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izingane, bangakagcwalisi ukugoma kwabo
ngokuphelele, banikeze i-Ukraine imijovo yokugoma

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futhi benza umkhankaso wokugoma ngendlela efanayo.

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Umphumela: Ngesilinganiso sangaphambilini
sokumbozwa kokugoma esingu-35%, kwakukhona izifo

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ze-measles ezingama-60 kuya kwezingama-70 ngonyaka.

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Kodwa hhayi iminyaka eminingi manje.

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Ngemva kokuqala komkhankaso wokugoma, kwaba nokutheleleka
kwe-measles okungu-12,000 ezinyangeni ezimbili,

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okungu-9,000 kwalokhu kwadinga ukulaliswa esibhedlela
kanti okungu-1,600 kwalokhu kwaholela ku-measles enzima.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu kukhombisa lokho esasikhuluma ngakho
ngaphambilini, ukuthi abantu abagonyiwe bangasakaza lesi sifo.

16:47.480 --> 16:51.849
Ukuhlolwa kwamazinga e-antibodi
okulahlekile kanye ne-hyperimmunity

16:51.849 --> 16:57.835
UDkt. András Guseo: Ngakho-ke kwakungekho izifo ze-measles
e-Ukraine, kodwa lapho baqala ukugoma ngomuthi

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ogcwele amagciwane aphilayo, abantu abagonyiwe
basabalalisa lesi sifo kwaba nobhubhane osesabekayo.

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Ngakho-ke yinkinga enkulu kakhulu.

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Enye into wukuthi lemikhankaso yokugoma ayigcini ngokungabheki
ukuthi ngabe kukhona umuntu okhulelwe emndenini,

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kodwa futhi ayibheki ukuthi lowo ozogonywa
usenamabhomphuno okuvikela umzimba ku-mhlatshelo X.

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Ngamanye amazwi, inani elilinganisekayo
lama-antibodi, i-titre yama-antibodi.

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UDkt. András Guseo: Ngoba uma unomthamo
we-antibodi ophezulu ngokwanele, awudingi umuthi wokugoma.

17:30.080 --> 17:34.716
Yilokho okushiwo encwadini yemininingwane
yomkhiqizo. Yebo. Kodwa lokho akukaze kuphenywe.

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Futhi ezimweni eziningana ezazidinga ukungenelela kwezomthetho,
izinga lama-antibodi lalilinganiswa, futhi laliphezulu kakhulu.

17:44.004 --> 17:54.010
Uma usebenzisa umuthi wokugoma i-measles kulesi zinga eliphezulu
kakhulu, udala i-hyperimmunity, futhi okubi kwe-hyperimmunity

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wukuthi ikhuthaza ukukhula kwezifo ze-autoimmune.

17:58.783 --> 18:06.264
Futhi lapho uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba lugcwele umthwalo,
okungukuthi luvuswa ngokweqile, luyadukiswa kalula kakhulu.

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Kokubili utheleleko lwe-measles kanye nomuthi wokugoma kuvuselela
umzimba ukuthi ukhiqize ama-antibodi alwa

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ne-myelin basic protein ebuchosheni, futhi kusukela
lapho umzimba usengesimo sokuzivikela komzimba.

18:20.007 --> 18:27.525
Lokho akusho ukuthi uzogula ngokushesha – kungaba ngemuva konyaka
owodwa, emibili, emihlanu, emishumi noma emishumi nanhlanu.

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Ngoba-ke, lapho uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba luthola omunye
walezi zikhuthazi, noma ngabe ngomjovo wokugoma, olunye

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utheleleko lwe-virus, ezinye izici zangaphandle,
ukucindezeleka, njll., uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba

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luqala ukuhlasela okuzenzakalelayo ohlelweni lwezinzwa.

18:46.775 --> 18:52.181
UMBOPHEZELEKILE WOMKHIQIZI, I-ANTENNA YE-ALUMINIYAMU

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UDkt. András Guseo: Kusukela ekudlulisweni koMthetho ka-1986,
akukho mthwalo womkhiqizi wokuhlola umuthi wokugoma ngokwanele.

19:00.880 --> 19:06.721
Ucwaningo olungakhethi, olungabonakali kabili, olulawulwa
nge-placebo, ucwaningo olwenziwa ezikhungweni eziningi, oluthatha

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iminyaka emibili, njengoba empeleni kudingeka kuwo
wonke amakhambi kulo mkhakha, akukaze kwenziwe emithini

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yokugoma. Akukaze kwenziwe ngisho nakugoma okukodwa.

19:14.870 --> 19:17.909
Awudingi ukubheka kude ukuze uthole izibonelo.

19:17.909 --> 19:21.310
Isibonelo esihle kakhulu yisifo
esisha esisabalele emhlabeni jikelele.

19:21.310 --> 19:27.309
Umuthi wokugoma owawusetshenziswa watholakala ezinyangeni
ezimbalwa nje emva kokuqhuma kokutheleleka kwegciwane, kanti

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ngokujwayelekile kuthatha iminyaka emihlanu
kuya kweyi-eight ukuhlola umuthi wokugoma ukuze

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kubonakale ukuthi usebenza ngempela yini noma cha.

19:35.464 --> 19:40.966
Lena into eyodwa. Okunye ukuthi abazange
benze ucwaningo lwe-placebo, ngakho-ke abazange

19:40.966 --> 19:44.259
baqhathanise umphumela nomuthi ongasebenzi.

19:44.259 --> 19:50.360
Abakakwenzi lokho kunoma iyiphi imijovo yokugoma,
ngakho-ke asazi ukuthi imijovo yokugoma isebenza kangakanani.

19:50.360 --> 19:54.949
Siyazi ukuthi kunezinkinga, ikakhulukazi
lapho kunikezwa umjovo wokugoma ohlanganisiwe .

19:54.949 --> 20:01.018
Kunezibonelo eziningi zokuthi ingane
eneminyaka ezinyangeni ezimbili, ezintathu noma ezine

20:01.018 --> 20:05.620
ithola imijovo eyisithupha ngasikhathi sinye.

20:11.336 --> 20:17.258
Futhi lokho akubandakanyi zonke izitozo zokugoma ezivikela kuzo
zonke izinhlobo zamagciwane ezifakiwe kulesi sigomelo esiningi,

20:17.258 --> 20:21.129
ngoba lezi zitozo eziyisithupha zigxile
ekulweni nezinhlobo zamagciwane ezingaphezu

20:21.129 --> 20:23.875
kweziyishumi noma ezingaphezu kweziyishumi nambili.

20:23.875 --> 20:28.336
Nokho, uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba
lomntwana onenyanga ezimbili alukakakhuli.

20:28.336 --> 20:33.161
Kuncike ekumelaneni komama nezifo.
Futhi lokhu kumelana nezifo kubuthakathaka.

20:33.161 --> 20:36.700
Manje uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba womntwana luqala ukuthuthuka.

20:36.700 --> 20:42.320
Futhi siyiphusha ngesikhuthazo
esikhulu kangaka. Kuyamangalisa nje.

20:47.341 --> 20:54.422
Inkinga enye, enkulu kakhulu, wukuthi
ubuchopho balo mntwana abusakathuthuki; busathuthuka.

20:54.422 --> 20:58.360
Futhi ebuchosheni kunesithiyo
esivikela, okuthiwa isithiyo segazi nobuchopho.

20:58.360 --> 21:03.216
Ngakho-ke, okungena egazini akwazi ukungena ngqo ebuchosheni.

21:03.216 --> 21:07.400
Nokho, lesi sivikelo sokuvikela asikakhiqizwa ezinganeni.

21:07.400 --> 21:14.520
Lokho okunikezwa ingane futhi kungena egazini,
ngaleyo ndlela kungena ebuchosheni kungavikelwanga.

21:21.414 --> 21:25.777
Inkinga ukuthi imijovo yokugoma iyizikhuthazi
zokuzivikela komzimba ezibuthakathaka kakhulu.

21:25.777 --> 21:31.489
Ukuze ngempela bakhuthaze uhlelo lokuzivikela
komzimba, kufanele kwengezwe ama-adjuvants , okubangela

21:31.489 --> 21:34.552
ukuthi uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba luqale ukusebenza.

21:34.552 --> 21:39.840
Futhi lo msizi emajabini yi-aluminium.

21:41.909 --> 21:45.735
Umlawuli: Bengicabanga ukuthi lokho
kuhlanganiswe kuzo zonke izitozo?

21:45.735 --> 21:50.765
UDkt. András Guseo: Imijovo yayivame
ukuba ne-mercury, kodwa ngenhlanhla yavinjwa.

21:50.765 --> 21:57.442
Kodwa kusekhona ezinye; umuthi
wokugoma i-hepatitis B usaqukethe i-mercury.

21:57.442 --> 22:01.185
Umjovo wokugoma umkhuhlane ungase usenayo i-mercury.

22:01.185 --> 22:05.568
Futhi leli aluminium lingena ebuchosheni ngokulingana.

22:05.568 --> 22:13.100
Futhi i-aluminium ivuswa kumaseli omsipha ngenxa
yokukhishwa kukagesi kwe-Wi-Fi noma kwefoni ephathekayo.

22:26.274 --> 22:29.095
Kuyoba ngumamukeli wabo, i-antenna yabo.

22:29.095 --> 22:34.067
Futhi lokho kudala umphumela
wogesi-magnethi omangalisayo ebuchosheni.

22:34.067 --> 22:39.767
Amaseli omsipha ebuchosheni nawo akhiqiza amagagasi
kagesi-magnethi, futhi wonke amaseli omzimba wami

22:39.767 --> 22:43.143
azwa la magagasi, ahlinzeka amaseli ami ngamandla.

22:43.143 --> 22:48.623
Uma manje ngibeka lo mzimba ensimini kagesi-magnetiki futhi
ngiwubeke ekuchayekeni ku-Wi-Fi – 50 Hz –

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nakwezinye izigxivizo zomsakazo weselula, khona-ke lezi
zithinta umsebenzi wami wangaphakathi kagesi-magnetiki.

22:54.434 --> 22:59.495
Futhi uma ngine-antenna ebuchosheni bami, lokho
kuzoba nomthelela omkhulu kakhulu ohlelweni

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lwami oluyinhloko lokulawula, umsebenzi walo weseli.

23:07.026 --> 23:12.434
HUNGARY – AKEKHO ONESIBOPHO NGOMONAKALO WEMJEKELO

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: E-Hungary, umthetho ubhalwe
ngendlela yokuthi akekho umkhiqizi, udokotela noma umbuso

23:18.470 --> 23:24.797
onecala nganoma yiluphi umonakalo obangelwa umuthi wokugoma.

23:24.797 --> 23:32.580
Umphumela walokhu wukuthi uma kungekho
izijeziso, akekho ozolandela imithetho.

23:34.644 --> 23:39.183
Lena yimithetho yemvelo!

23:39.183 --> 23:47.114
Njengoba kungekho udokotela, umbuso noma umkhiqizi
onecala eHungary, udokotela akagcwalisi isibopho

23:47.114 --> 23:52.965
sakhe sokwazisa isiguli ngemiphumela yesitofu sokugoma.

23:52.965 --> 23:58.078
Akasebenzi ezingeni elidingekayo
ngoba akakafundi ukuthi enzeni kanjalo.

23:58.078 --> 24:04.100
Ngakho-ke silwela labo abathintekile abasiza
ngoba kumele badlule ochungechungeni lokuhlupheka.

24:04.100 --> 24:09.276
Ngaphezu kwalokho, akekho ongabekwa
icala, ngakho siqhubeka sihlulwa kaningi.

24:09.276 --> 24:16.851
Kodwa siyamelana, izimangalo zethu ziyaqhubeka, futhi kumele
siqale kabusha kaningi ukuze sikhulule abantu ekugonyweni.

24:16.851 --> 24:20.962
ISINQUMO SOKUZIKHETHA SOKUGOMA

24:20.962 --> 24:24.036
UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Ngakho-ke
kungaba kuhle uma izinto ezimbili zenzeka:

24:24.036 --> 24:29.552
Okokuqala, lokho i-United States of America ekulwela khona,
nalokho okuphathwa kukaKennedy, okungukuthi

24:29.552 --> 24:34.895
ukuphathwa kukaTrump, ekulwela khona, kuwukubeka
umkhawulo kulokhu kungathembeki kwabakhiqizi.

24:34.895 --> 24:42.664
Lokhu kufanele futhi kufezeke eHungary ukuze labo abaphethe
umthwalo wemfanelo bangasakwazi ukugwema ukubhekana nemiphumela.

24:42.664 --> 24:45.594
Futhi udokotela naye kufanele abhekelwe icala.

24:45.594 --> 24:54.469
Ngoba bazokhuthazeka kuphela ukufundisa abantu ngezingozi
zokugoma uma bengabekwa icala ngokulimala abakubangelayo.

24:54.469 --> 25:01.854
Futhi okunye ukuthi ngokushesha nje lapho lo mthetho ususwa –
lapho kungekho udokotela noma umbuso onomthwalo wemfanelo

25:01.854 --> 25:09.547
ngokulimala okubangelwa ukugonywa – ulwazi mayelana nemiphumela
engemihle yokugonywa luzodluliselwa nabaguli nabazali.

25:09.547 --> 25:14.447
Ngaphezu kwalokho, uma ukugonywa bekungokuzithandela,
bekungeke sidinge ukudlula kuleli zinga lobunzima, lapho

25:14.447 --> 25:17.948
empeleni silwa ukuze sivikele izimpilo zezingane zethu.

25:17.948 --> 25:24.302
Umlawuli: Kulungile, udokotela kumele afunge
ukuthi uzokwelapha noma akakwenzi umonakalo.

25:26.259 --> 25:29.520
Hhayi-ke, ake sihlolisise lokhu kancane:

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Ngakho-ke uma udokotela efunga isifungo ngalokhu, kodwa-ke hhayi
kuphela ehluleka ukudlulisa ulwazi mayelana nokugoma, kodwa futhi

25:36.298 --> 25:41.980
ehluleka ukwenza izivivinyo ngaphambi kwalokho ukuze
athole ukuthi ingabe lo mntwana uzogula kamuva noma cha,

25:41.980 --> 25:46.960
khona-ke usefungile isifungo sakhe ngokungenamsebenzi.

25:46.960 --> 25:51.270
Empeleni, waphula isifungo sakhe.

25:51.270 --> 25:54.263
UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Asinayo nje
eyodwa yalezi zimo – sinazo eziningana!

25:54.263 --> 25:58.135
Akuyona nje isimangalo. Siyamangalela odokotela ngokukhethekile.

25:58.135 --> 26:03.190
Ngoba, noma kungasebenzi ngale ndlela, kuwumthetho eHungary:

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Uma udokotela ebhala ukuthi ingane ayikwazi
ukugonywa ngenxa yezizathu zezempilo,

26:07.845 --> 26:11.983
iziphathimandla kufanele ziyisuse ekufunweni kokugonywa.

26:11.983 --> 26:19.495
Sinezimo lapho odokotela ababili nodokotela
abane babhale ukuthi ingane ayikwazi ukugonywa.

26:19.495 --> 26:25.174
Abazali bathatha lokhu baya eziphathimandla,
iziphathimandla zibeka umeluleki wokugoma okubizwa kanjalo –

26:25.174 --> 26:29.630
okuyisikhungo eHungary – ongakaze ambone ingane ngaphambili.

26:29.630 --> 26:37.026
Odokotela ababili abelapha, noma-ke odokotela abane abelapha
ngempela lo mntwana, abanye babo iminyaka

26:37.026 --> 26:47.083
eyisishiyagalombili, abanye iminyaka emine, futhi babhala
kumakhasi ambalwa ukuthi lo mntwana angafa ngenxa yokugoma.

26:48.958 --> 26:57.107
Umeluleki wokugoma akabheki ngisho nengane, ufunda
nje okutholakele – ngikhuluma ngezimo ezithile –

26:57.107 --> 27:02.969
bese ebhala ngemigqa emine ukuthi ingane ingagonywa.

27:05.824 --> 27:08.480
Umlawuli: Futhi laba bangodokotela?

27:08.480 --> 27:13.800
UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Odokotela,
odokotela, odokotela abaqeqeshiwe ngokukhethekile.

27:13.800 --> 27:21.362
Mayelana nombuzo omunye: Yebo, siphinde simangalela
odokotela abangakayikhiphi izixolelo zokungagonywa

27:21.362 --> 27:27.204
kwabantwana abafanele ngempela ukukhululwa kulomgonyo.

27:27.204 --> 27:32.348
Futhi udokotela wabhala phansi.
Sinezikhalazo eziningana ezinjalo.

27:32.348 --> 27:38.446
Futhi odokotela abaningi abahlukene babhala ukuthi uma
kukhulunywa ngemijovo eyimpoqo, abacabangi ngenhlalakahle

27:38.446 --> 27:43.401
yengane, kodwa kunalokho bacabangela
intshisekelo yomphakathi, futhi le ngane kumele ithole

27:43.401 --> 27:48.236
imijovo ukuze kufezeke ukumelana komphakathi.

27:48.236 --> 27:51.069
Umlawuli: Futhi-ke akubalulekile ukuthi ingane inani.

27:51.069 --> 27:55.822
UDkt Angelika Mihalik: Lokhu nakho kwenziwa lapho kuneingozi
enkulu kakhulu yokuthi ingane ife ngenxa yokugonywa lokhu.

27:55.822 --> 27:59.824
Futhi sizofaka lokhu esitatimendeni
sokumangalela. Sinezimangalo eziningana ezinjalo.

27:59.824 --> 28:05.391
UKUNYUKA KWENANI LEZINGANE EZINE-AUTISIMU

28:05.391 --> 28:10.148
UDkt. András Guseo: I-CDC ishicilele idatha
emangazayo ekhombisa ukuthi izingane

28:10.148 --> 28:14.740
ezisanda kuzalwa ezingaki e-USA ezizoba ne-autismu.

28:18.211 --> 28:23.781
Ngo-2020, inani lalingu-158.

28:23.781 --> 28:29.784
Uma sibuyela emuva eminyakeni eyishumi
nanhlanu, inani lalingelilodwa kwabangu-10 000.

28:29.784 --> 28:33.280
Umlawuli: Ingabe kungu-158 kwezingu-10,000?

28:33.280 --> 28:38.662
UDkt. András Guseo: Cha, ingane eyodwa
kwabangu-158 abazalwa izoba ne-autism.

28:38.662 --> 28:43.224
Futhi eminyakeni edlule, inani elalibhalwe njengereferensi laya
lihlala lincane kancane, kanti ngonyaka

28:43.224 --> 28:48.755
odlule kwaba nengane eyodwa ene-autismu
phakathi kokuzalwa kwabantu abayisishiyagalolunye.

28:50.410 --> 28:54.453
Uhlelo lwezibalo lwehla kakhulu – okusho
ukuthi izingane ezingezona ezine-autism sezincane

28:54.453 --> 28:57.701
kakhulu phakathi kwezingane ezisanda kuzalwa.

28:57.701 --> 29:02.598
Futhi uma ngiqinisile, isisekelo
sizofinyelelwa eminyakeni emibili.

29:02.598 --> 29:09.527
Lokhu kusho ukuthi wonke umntwana
ozalelwe eMelika angaba ne-autismu.

29:09.527 --> 29:14.656
UDkt. András Guseo: Lokho kubi
nje. Ngakubuka ekhaya, ezweni lethu.

29:14.656 --> 29:20.373
Futhi ngithanda ukukubonisa idatha yakamuva kulesi shadi.

29:20.373 --> 29:27.084
Ibonisa inani lezingane ezine-autism ezineminyaka
engu-2 kuya kwengu-18 ezibikiwe yizikole kuzwelonke

29:27.084 --> 29:32.372
ekupheleni kukaSepthemba kusukela ngo-2018 kuya ku-2024.

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Futhi kubonisa ukuthi ukunyuka kubaluleke
kakhulu, kufinyelela ku-121% eminyakeni eyisikhombisa.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi inani lezingane
ezine-autism ezikoleni liyanda cishe ngo-17% ngonyaka.

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Nikoletta Kertész: Kwathi-ke kwethulwa umjovo wokugoma
i-chickenpox, nomjovo wokugoma i-pneumococcal, eyayivikela

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ezinhlotsheni eziyi-13 ezahlukene zama-pneumococcal – manje
sekukhona izinhlobo eziyi-20. Futhi le nqubo iyaqhubeka ikhula.

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Manje sicela ngempela ukuthi kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi
kube nezingane ezingakakwazi ukukhuluma ngeminyaka emithathu.

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Ngakho-ke kungaba kanjani ukuthi izingane eziningi zingene
esikoleni sabantwana abancane zineminyaka emithathu ngaphandle

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kokukwazi ukukhuluma noma ukusebenzisa indlu yangasese?

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Futhi lezi zingane zisifika kithi
ngobuningi kulo lonke izwe – hhayi kithi kuphela.

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Bazobekwa ezindleleni zokweseka ezikhona.

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Hhayi-ke, akukho lizwe emhlabeni lapho kunezikhungo
zokweseka ezizimele, izikhungo zokwelapha ezizimele kanye

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nothisha bezidingo ezikhethekile abaningi kunaseHungary.

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Lokhu kukhombisa isidingo esikhulu, futhi asisakwazi ukwenza
izikhathi zokubhuka – akukho kulezi zikhungo okusakwazi

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ukwenza ezinye izikhathi zokubhuka. Kunezicelo eziningi kakhulu.

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Kuyisifo esisabalele, hhayi kuphela ngenani lezingane
ezine-autismu, kodwa futhi ngoba

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ukuziphatha kwalezi zingane kuhlukile kakhulu
ekuziphatheni okunempilo. Lokhu sekungasenqatshwa.

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Yingakho sihlale simemezela
ukuthi izimemezelo zenkantolo zivulekile

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emphakathini, ukuze abantu bakwazi ukuya ezimemezelo zenkantolo.

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Besihlale simema abantu uma iklayenti livuma.

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Uthisha wesikole samabanga aphezulu wake wabamba iqhaza kuleli
cala lenkantolo ngoba wabona ukuthi kwabantwana abangu-47

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ababebambe ukuhlolwa kokungena esikoleni
samabanga aphezulu, abangu-20 babo babe nezidingo

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ezikhethekile zemfundo – iningi labo laline-autism.

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Akuzange kube thina, kodwa kwaba yinhlangano ehlukile eyabuza
Amazwe Angamalungu e-European Union – amazwe lapho ukugoma

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kungaphoqelekile – ukuthi kungani ukugoma kungaphoqelekile.

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Futhi baphendula mayelana nezinsizakalo esasivele
sizazi, okungukuthi azihambisani nomthethosisekelo.

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Isizathu sokuthi ukugonywa okuphoqelekile kungavumelani
nomthethosisekelo – futhi kungavumelani nomthethosisekelo

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yonke indawo emhlabeni – ukuthi ungafa ngenxa yokugonywa.

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Lokho kuyiqiniso. Akunakuphikwa.

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Ungafa ngenxa yethebhulethi ye-aspirini; ungahlaselwa
i-anaphylaxis nganoma yini. Ngakho-ke ungafa ngenxa yayo.

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Akumelwe ngokomthethosisekelo ukubhalela umuthi ongakubulala.

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Kwephula ilungelo lokuphila.

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, abantu abazi lutho ngakho
ngoba kuthengiswa njengomsebenzi ophoqelekile futhi

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imijovo ingaba yinhle kuphela futhi awukwazi ukufa ngayo.

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Ngaphezu kokushintsha komthetho, kumele futhi
kube nomkhankaso wokwazisa ukuze kwaziswe abantu.

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Ukugonywa okuphoqelekile kumele kususwe futhi
abantu kumele baziswe ngezinzuzo, izingozi, ubungozi,

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njll. bokugonywa – odokotela, imidiya nohulumeni.

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UDkt. András Guseo: Futhi-ke, uma ubheka namuhla, i-CDC,
esiyishilo kaningi, i-US Centre for Disease Control, okungukuthi

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igunya laseMelika kwezokutheleleka, nayo iyisabalalisi yamajovo.

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Ngakho-ke inobudlelwano obuqondile nabakhiqizi bemijovo
yokugoma, futhi kusezinsizakalweni zabo ukuletha emakethe

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imijovo yokugoma eminingi ngangokunokwenzeka. Lokho kucacile.

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Inkinga enkulu wukuthi ngesikhathi ngiqala umsebenzi wami
eminyakeni engu-60 edlule futhi ngenza ukuhlolwa kwami

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kobungcweti kwe-neurology ne-psychiatry, umqondo
wokuzivikela komzimba wawukhona, kodwa wawungahlangene nezifo.

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Angikaze ngizwe nge-autism, futhi asizange sifunde lutho ngayo.

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Namuhla, izinhlobo zombili zezifo ziyanda.

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Hhayi-ke, lapha ungabona ukwanda, futhi
sesingakhuluma ngempandemikhi namuhla, ngoba akukho mndeni

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ongenayo isifo sokuzivikela komzimba phakathi kwabo.

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Akukho umndeni ongenalo ingane ene-autism noma
ingane enezinkinga zokuziphatha ehlala eduze kwabo.

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Uhlelo oluyinhloko aluvumeli noma yikuphi ukuphikisana

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UDkt. András Guseo: Iphuzu elilodwa elibaluleke kakhulu engifuna
ukulenza wukuthi akukho ucwaningo olusemthethweni mayelana

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nokugoma olubhekana nemiphumela yesikhathi eside yokugoma.

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Kwenzekani kubantu abagonyiwe emva kweminyaka
eyishumi, engamashumi amabili noma engamashumi amathathu?

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E-United States, kunocwaningo olubizwa nge-VAERS ,
oluhlolisise abantu abangama-35 000 abagonyiwe nabangagonywanga.

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Kwavela ukuthi labo abebegonyelwe babegula kakhulu, banezinye
izifo eziqinisekisiwe, baya kudokotela

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kaningi kunalabo abangagonyelwanga, kanti labo
abangagonyelwanga babe sempilweni engcono.

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Kodwa abantu abafuni ukukhuluma ngakho, yingakho empeleni
kungekho datha ngakho, futhi yilona inkinga enkulu kunazo zonke:

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Isayensi namuhla inamandla okulawula izincwadi
zesayensi kangangokuthi uma umuntu efuna ukubhala

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okungahambisani nombono ojwayelekile, ngeke kushicilelwe.

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Futhi okunye okubaluleke kakhulu
okwashiwo ngu-András, ngoba kukhona odokotela, nakuba bebanqabile

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kakhulu, abanesibindi sokubhala ukuthi ingane ayinakugonywa.

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Futhi inkonzo yezempilo yomphakathi ithatha
izinyathelo zomthetho ngalaba madokotela ngoba babhale lokho.

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Impela, akubekwa kanjalo.

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Abanye odokotela abathintekayo bathola nje
ucingo olubatshela ukuthi bangaphindi benze lokhu.

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Ngokumelene nabanye, izinqubo
ezisemthethweni ziqalwa ngezizathu ezahlukene.

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Futhi ukuze abantu bazi imithetho: uma iziphathimandla zezempilo
zithola ukwephulwa – futhi lokhu kusebenza nakubantu ngabanye

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ngisho nakubazali abangavumeli izingane zabo zithole imijovo
yokugoma – bangahlawuliswa phakathi kuka-30

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000 no-5 000 000 ama-forinti , futhi lokhu
kungaphindwa kaningi ngokwephulwa ngakunye.

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Ngakho-ke odokotela abaningi bangalindela iziphindiselo
ngisho noma bevuma noma bebika umphumela ongathandeki ngomlomo.

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Umlawuli: Ingabe lokho kuzoshintsha? Ingabe
lokho esikuxoxa ngakho kuzoshintsha? Usebenze

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kulo msebenzi iminyaka eminingi manje, akunjalo?

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UDkt. András Guseo: Sithemba ukuthi
okuthile kuzoshintsha. Sesizamile.

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Cishe izinyanga eziyisithupha ezedlule, samema abamele
abahamba phambili kulo mkhakha emhlanganweni ukuze sixoxe

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ngalolu daba, sizwe imibono yabo futhi sikhombise eyethu.

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Kodwa kwakufana nesivalo sensimbi:

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Akekho owafika, kwathi kamuva emhlanganweni
wabezindaba esasiwumemele amalungu ezabezindaba

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angama-40, kwalandela inkantolo yensimbi efanayo.

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Ngakho-ke akukho ingxoxo.

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Ngakho-ke, kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi kube nokushintsha?

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UDkt. Angelika Mihalik: Hhayi-ke,
u-András uthe akekho owamukelayo izimemo.

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Baphoqa ukugoma okubalulekile futhi... I-Hungary
ngempela iyona kuphela izwe emhlabeni lapho kukhona

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lesi saba sokwesabisa sokugoma. Ngikuhlolile lokhu.

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Kodwa ingane eyodwa kuphela esifundeni esincane ithole usizo.

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Siyalwa, futhi sesifike esigabeni lapho enkantolo, ekuhlolweni
kwecala, ngemva kokulahlekelwa yicala, sizizwa

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sengathi siyalahlekelwa yizo zonke izicelo zethu.
Naphezu kobufakazi esinabo bokweseka icala lethu.

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Futhi ijaji, esesizwa ukuzisola, ithi akukho nkinga,
singaphinda sifake isicelo sokukhululwa ekugonyweni.

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Futhi konke kuqala kabusha.

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Lokhu akuyona nje imvo yomahluleli oyedwa, kodwa yeziningana.

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Ngakho-ke siqala izinqubo kaningi kaningi, kaningi kaningi.

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Ezinye izingane zigcinwa ziphila ngale ndlela.

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Uhlelo lonke lwezomthetho lwakhiwe
ngendlela yokuthi empeleni kwadingeka sakhe

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isikhala somthetho – luhlobo lomshini oqhubekayo.

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Uma singakwazi ukukhulula ingane
ekugonyweni, sifuna okungenani ukuqhubeka nenqubo

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yokukhulula isikhathi eside ngangokunokwenzeka.

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Ngoba inqobo nje uma lokhu kuqhubeka, abakwazi
ukusinika isijeziso noma ukuthatha ingane bayoyigonyela.

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Yingakho siqhubeka siphinda.

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Futhi kukhona okunye okubalulekile okufanele kusho
mayelana nezinyathelo ezithathwe ngokumelene nathi.

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Singabameli abathathu abasebenza kulezi zindaba.

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Futhi thina sonke esithathu sibizwa ngokuthi abaphikisi
bemijovo yokugoma futhi kuthiwa siyingozi emphakathini.

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Basisungula izinqubo zokuziphatha ngokumelene nathi – futhi
uma ngenxa yalokho silahlekelwa ubulungu bethu eNhlanganweni

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Yabameli, ngeke sibe sesivunyelwe ukusebenza njengabameli.

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Omunye wozakwethu wakhululwa kulesi simangalo.

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Kusamele izinqubo zokuziphatha ngokumelene nami ngoba
ngingumuntu ophikisa ukugoma futhi onobungozi emphakathini.

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Futhi izinqubo zokuziphatha nazo seziyaqhubeka
ngokumelene nomunye osebenza naye. Ngakho-ke...

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Umlawuli: Lapho ngikhuluma ngezihloko ezinjalo
kumavidiyo ami, ngihlala ngithi awudingi ukungikholwa.

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Ngithi: bheka bese wenza iziphetho zakho.

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Lena umbuzo wolwazi.

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Futhi ngolwazi oluningi kangaka, njengamanje
kulesi sixoxo, abantu bangaqala ku-inthanethi.

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Umlawuli: Ngiyabonga kakhulu!