WEBVTT 00:00.500 --> 00:09.880 Muna maraba da Karl Hummitzsch daga "United for Freedom", wata ƙungiya mai zaman kanta ta 00:09.880 --> 00:15.375 kare hakkin ɗan adam, zuwa cikin studio ɗinmu. 00:15.375 --> 00:22.459 Kuma Mista Hummitzsch, na gode ƙwarai da ɗaukar lokaci don yin wannan hira da amsa tambayoyinmu masu muhimmanci. 00:22.459 --> 00:29.542 A madadin ƙungiyarmu, ina so in nuna godiya ta gaskiya kan damar da aka ba mu don mai da hankali kan batun hakkin ɗan adam. 00:29.542 --> 00:35.000 Saboda na yi imani cewa jama'a har yanzu ba su san abin da za su yi da shi ba sosai. Yanzu lokaci ne mai kyau don hakan. 00:35.000 --> 00:42.542 Kyau! Batutuwan hakkin bil'adama – watakila kana yawan tafiya ƙasashen waje zuwa abin da ake kira "jihar masu laifi". 00:42.542 --> 00:49.861 A'a, ba kwata-kwata. Ba mu yanke hukunci kan abin da ya sa wata ƙasa ta zama mai laifi ba, sai dai muna mai da hankali kan 00:49.861 --> 00:56.340 mutanen da ke fuskantar tsanani, matsalolin kare hakkin ɗan adam, waɗanda ke hannun hukumomi, kotuna da masu 00:56.340 --> 01:00.792 gabatar da ƙara na gwamnati. Kuma muna duba bangarori biyu. 01:00.792 --> 01:05.709 Ah eh, to. Kuma a ina kake yawon tafiya mafi yawa? 01:05.709 --> 01:10.000 Don haka mu ne ke da alhaki kuma muna wakilci a Hungary, Poland da Jamus. 01:10.000 --> 01:15.536 Ni ne ke da alhakin Jamus, kuma daga cikin sauran abubuwa, ina kuma kula da batutuwan hurumin 01:15.536 --> 01:18.667 kotu a cikin shari'o'in da muke da su a Jamus. 01:18.667 --> 01:25.626 To. Take hakkin ɗan adam a Jamus – a matsayin mutum na yau da kullum, ta yaya zan fahimci wannan? 01:25.626 --> 01:29.083 Muna da dimokuradiyya mafi kyau da aka taba samu. 01:29.083 --> 01:34.667 Ta yaya ake samun take hakkin ɗan adam a Jamus? Ko kuna da wani misali? 01:34.667 --> 01:41.518 A'a, ba a samu tarin take hakkin ɗan adam ba, amma mun lura cewa akwai wasu wurare, wasu mutane da ake musamman 01:41.518 --> 01:48.292 niyya a kansu, inda muke ganin ana tsananta musu saboda dalilai na siyasa, ba kawai saboda laifuka ba. 01:48.292 --> 01:52.292 Hakanan akwai gaurayawa, kuma muna da wasu misalai na hakan. Wataƙila za mu iya tattauna shi. 01:52.292 --> 01:56.918 Eh, ci gaba. Wane misali kake ɓoye a hannunka? 01:56.918 --> 02:05.573 To, za mu iya fara da ɗaya daga cikin shahararrun shari'o'i, Mista Füllmich, wanda a gefe guda yana da fice a 02:05.573 --> 02:15.500 siyasa, amma a gefe guda kuma ana tuhumar sa da laifuka, kuma muna fuskantar tambayar yadda za mu magance wannan. 02:15.500 --> 02:19.417 Kuma mun tabbatar cewa watakila an yi take hakkin bil'adama a nan. 02:19.417 --> 02:20.959 Ta wace hanya? 02:20.959 --> 02:29.066 Za mu iya nuni ga Mai Bayar da Rahoto na Musamman na Majalisar Dinkin Duniya, wanda ya bayyana cewa kulle mutum a gidan yari 02:29.066 --> 02:33.834 tare da zaman kadaici na tsawon kwanaki 15 yana zama azabtarwa. 02:33.834 --> 02:43.542 Mun lura kuma mun tabbatar cewa wannan ya zama laifi, domin watanni shida na zaman kadaici sun riga sun fara. 02:43.542 --> 02:44.459 Runtsewa shi kaɗai? 02:44.459 --> 02:46.751 Runtsewa shi kaɗai, an riga an aiwatar. 02:46.751 --> 02:49.250 Watanni shida a zaman kadaici ga Mista Füllmich? 02:49.250 --> 02:49.999 Ba zai yiwu a yi tunani ba. 02:49.999 --> 02:52.723 Kuma a wane lokaci ake ɗauka a matsayin azabtarwa? 02:52.723 --> 02:55.250 Daga kwanaki 15 bayan UN. 02:55.250 --> 02:56.167 To. 02:56.167 --> 02:59.125 Wannan yana nufin lokaci ya yi da mu shiga tsakani. 02:59.125 --> 03:02.000 To, yaya masu kallo ya kamata su yi tunanin wannan? 03:02.000 --> 03:08.751 Don haka Mista Füllmich yanzu ya shafe kwanaki 15 a zaman kadaici, kuma har yanzu ya wuce kwanaki 15. 03:08.751 --> 03:16.250 Zan iya tunanin cewa a farko abin ba dadi ne sosai. Kuma me ya sa ake hukunta shi da tsauri haka? Shin hakan na da wasu sakamako? 03:16.250 --> 03:19.584 Wannan yana da sakamako, tabbas. 03:19.584 --> 03:23.083 Wannan yana rage tsawon rayuwa sosai. 03:23.083 --> 03:24.125 Ta hanyar zaman kadaici? 03:24.125 --> 03:25.334 Akwai ƙarin bayani. 03:25.334 --> 03:29.417 Wataƙila za mu iya nuna hakan a cikin shirin nan. 03:29.417 --> 03:30.918 To. 03:30.918 --> 03:31.918 Wataƙila a matsayin mahaɗi. 03:31.918 --> 03:37.237 Don haka idan ana aiwatar da azabtarwa kuma, bisa ga ƙa'idojin Majalisar Dinkin Duniya, ta riga ta yi 03:37.237 --> 03:40.459 tsawon kwanaki 15, to lallai muna jin dole mu tsoma baki. 03:40.459 --> 03:44.610 Eh, wannan abin birgewa ne. To, mu riƙe shi a tunani. 03:44.610 --> 03:48.542 Reiner Füllmich, zaman kadaici, take hakkin ɗan adam. 03:48.542 --> 03:54.987 Wannan lamari ne mai bayyananne. A cewar ƙa'idojin Majalisar Dinkin Duniya, duk abin da ya wuce kwanaki 15 03:54.987 --> 03:58.250 ana ɗauka azabtarwa ne. Kuma ya shafe watanni shida. 03:58.250 --> 04:02.868 Wannan abin hauka ne, me ke faruwa a can? Shin kuna da wasu misalai makamancin haka daga 04:02.868 --> 04:05.276 tsarin gidan yari? Wani makamancin haka, ko? 04:05.276 --> 04:10.709 Tabbas akwai wasu makamantan su. Amma a wannan yanayin, mun gabatar da cikakken bayani. 04:10.709 --> 04:15.554 Mun mika wannan ga lauyoyi. Zan nuna shi a taƙaice anan. 04:15.554 --> 04:22.230 Mun mika shafuka kusan ashirin na farkon tsarawa ga lauyoyi. Sannan za su iya aiki da shi. 04:22.230 --> 04:23.000 Daga Mr Füllmich? 04:23.000 --> 04:25.459 Ga Mista Füllmich, mun mika wannan ga lauyoyi. 04:25.459 --> 04:27.792 Sannan su yi aiki da shi, su ci gaba da shi. 04:27.792 --> 04:30.792 Kuma a halin yanzu, an kuma sauƙaƙa yanayin tsarewa. 04:30.792 --> 04:32.709 Bisa ga aikinku? 04:32.709 --> 04:33.375 Eh, daga cikin sauran abubuwa. 04:33.375 --> 04:39.125 Tabbas, lauyoyin za su ci gaba da aiki da shi, don haka za su sami ƙarin bayani kan hakkin ɗan adam game da batun. 04:39.125 --> 04:39.667 Mai ban mamaki. 04:39.667 --> 04:44.542 Kuma daga nan suna da damar ci gaba da aiki tare da ƙungiyoyin da suka dace. 04:44.542 --> 04:47.330 Kana ɗaukar takardunmu game da wannan batu. An kuma haɗa wannan cikin hujjojin ƙarshe. 04:47.330 --> 04:49.670 Sannan mu ga sakamako, sannan mu ja da baya. 04:49.670 --> 04:53.459 Ba sai mun yi masa babbar magana ba. Zai faru da kansa. 04:53.459 --> 04:56.000 Amma ba mu da alaƙa da batutuwan laifi. 04:56.000 --> 05:01.783 To shikenan, amma mu ajiye hakan gefe a yanzu kuma da wasu kalmomi: 05:01.783 --> 05:11.209 Da ba ka yi bincike ba, shin Mista Füllmich har yanzu zai kasance a tsare shi shi kaɗai, a ware? 05:11.209 --> 05:14.181 Don haka ya riga ya yi jima na watanni shida kafin mu shiga tsakani. 05:14.181 --> 05:17.125 Don haka mun yi hakan da kanmu. Ba a roƙe mu mu yi hakan ba. 05:17.125 --> 05:23.881 Muna yin rijista, shiga kotu da izini, saurari yadda ake gudanar da shari'ar, sannan mu tattauna da babban 05:23.881 --> 05:30.209 lauya mai kare tuhuma, mu fayyace al'amari, su karɓi ragamar shari'ar su kuma bi ta har karshe. 05:30.209 --> 05:36.076 Kyau. To, yanzu sharuɗɗan tsarewa. 05:36.076 --> 05:40.203 Shin kuna da wani misali daban inda ku, mai kallo, kuma watakila mu... 05:40.203 --> 05:47.709 To, a fili yake cewa wannan tunani ne mai matuƙar rashin daɗi a gare ni lokacin da muke buƙatar fitar da wani daga gidan yari. 05:47.709 --> 05:54.500 Muna da nan shari'ar wata mata mai shekaru arba'in wadda, a ra'ayinmu, ba za a iya ɗaukar ta da alhakin ayyukanta ba. 05:54.500 --> 05:58.459 Mun karɓi wani irin kiran gaggawa da yamma. 05:58.459 --> 06:07.667 Sai na tafi Vechta zuwa gidan yari. Matar ba ta dace a tsare ta a gidan yari ba kwata-kwata. 06:07.667 --> 06:09.876 Ta yaya hakan ya bayyana a kan wannan mace? 06:09.876 --> 06:11.425 Ba za ta iya tafiya kwata-kwata ba. 06:11.425 --> 06:16.250 Ya fadi a ranar farko ta aiwatarwa. 06:16.250 --> 06:24.061 Ba za ta iya tafiya ba, don haka muka tuka mota muka je can, muka ji dole mu fitar da ita daga wurin nan take. 06:24.061 --> 06:31.850 Sai na karɓi su. Dole ne in faɗa, a gefe guda, ta yaya za a ma tura irin wannan mutum gidan yari? 06:31.850 --> 06:36.492 A gefe guda kuma, dole ne mu gode wa ma'aikatan kulawa, waɗanda na yi imani sun yi 06:36.492 --> 06:39.584 matuƙar farin ciki da an kwato su daga gare su. 06:39.584 --> 06:42.259 Ba su san abin da za su yi da ita ba. Ta fadi, ta ji rauni. 06:42.259 --> 06:45.751 Asibitin yana nan a gefen gida, amma babu wanda ya damu. 06:45.751 --> 06:48.375 Sai na fitar da su sannan na rubuta hakan. 06:48.375 --> 06:51.625 Mace ba za ta iya tafiya kwata-kwata ba – sai da ciwo. 06:51.625 --> 06:53.918 Na kai ta asibiti, wanda yake a gaba ɗaya. 06:53.918 --> 06:58.375 Sun kuma bayyana ra'ayoyi marasa kyau kuma ba su so su bincika shi yadda ya kamata. 06:58.375 --> 07:02.375 Sa'an nan muka yi amfani da matsin lamba sosai, muka sanya ƙungiyarmu a bayansa. 07:02.375 --> 07:04.292 Abu na dabi'a ne mu ji haushi sosai, amma muka matsa muka ci gaba. 07:04.292 --> 07:09.751 Na kasance a asibiti duka dare. Mace ta firgita kwarai, tabbas. 07:09.751 --> 07:13.667 Kuma na tsaya a kusa har sai ta kammala gwaje-gwajenta. 07:13.667 --> 07:18.083 Sa'an nan suka ƙi bayar da takardar shaida cewa ba a dace a tsare shi ba. 07:18.083 --> 07:21.300 Har nan ne kawai muka iya isa. Sai na sauke ta a gidan kawarta. 07:21.300 --> 07:26.042 Kuma abin da zai faru daga nan ba shi cikin ikonmu. 07:26.042 --> 07:28.667 To, amma bari in taƙaita. 07:28.667 --> 07:35.341 Idan wani ba shi da alhakin laifi amma duk da haka aka daure shi, wannan ya zama take hakkin ɗan adam. 07:35.341 --> 07:35.959 Karl Hummitzsch: Tabbas. 07:35.959 --> 07:37.870 Kuma a nan ne kake shiga? 07:37.870 --> 07:38.375 Karl Hummitzsch: Eh. 07:38.375 --> 07:43.403 Abin al'ajabi, abin al'ajabi! Kuma kun samu damar fitar da matar daga gidan yari ku 07:43.403 --> 07:48.209 mika ta ga tsarin kiwon lafiya. Abin al'ajabi. 07:48.209 --> 07:52.417 Shin kuna da wani lamari na take hakkin ɗan adam? 07:52.417 --> 07:57.891 Abin shi ne, ba za mu iya gaske tunanin irin take hakkin ɗan adam da ake yi a can ba. 07:57.891 --> 08:04.000 Daga ƙwarewar aiki – wane wasu muhimman lamura ne ke zo maka a rai? 08:04.000 --> 08:06.088 Tabbas, muna da ƙananan lamura da yawa. 08:06.088 --> 08:09.250 Amma akwai waɗanda aka sani sosai, idan zan iya ƙara bayani. 08:09.250 --> 08:10.375 Eh, don Allah. 08:10.375 --> 08:13.753 Ka ɗauki misalin Walter Weber, misali, likita. 08:13.753 --> 08:20.999 Ana cewa akwai kimanin likitoci 1,000 da ake zargin sun bayar da takardun shaidar maski. 08:20.999 --> 08:27.584 Dole ne a kuma yi la'akari cewa akwai dubban likitoci da ba su bayar da izini ba, amma muna magana ne game da mutanen da 08:27.584 --> 08:31.334 tabbas suna buƙatar a yi musu rangwame bisa dalilan lafiya. 08:31.334 --> 08:36.261 Misali, Walter Weber likitan sankara ne, don haka yana da marasa lafiya masu sankara 08:36.261 --> 08:39.542 waɗanda ke buƙatar samun sauƙi cikin gaggawa. 08:39.542 --> 08:42.125 An gurfanar da shi a gaban kotu duk da haka. 08:42.125 --> 08:45.918 Na halarci kusan duk ranakun shari'ar. 08:45.918 --> 08:49.998 Yana da matuƙar mamaki idan ka yi la'akari da abin da ya faru a baya. 08:49.998 --> 08:56.167 Ba wai kawai a cikin shari'ar ba, har ma a cikin tsarin shari'ar kanta. Muna kiran wannan wani irin hukuncin laifi na baya. 08:56.167 --> 09:00.250 Wannan yana nufin an tsara zaman sauraron kotu na kwanaki 27. 09:00.250 --> 09:01.959 Don Dr Walter Weber? 09:01.959 --> 09:02.828 A gaba. 09:02.828 --> 09:07.792 A matsayin abin hana, haka muke ganinsa. Dole ne ka yi la'akari da euro 3,000. 09:07.792 --> 09:11.709 Ƙaramin kuɗaɗen ƙari, masu bincike da sauransu, kuma da sauri za ka ga kanka kana kallon fam ɗari dubu! 09:11.709 --> 09:15.075 Yuro 100,000 kafin ma a same shi da laifi. 09:15.075 --> 09:18.876 Mutumin ba shi da laifi. Kuma zai karɓi euro 100,000. 09:18.876 --> 09:22.792 Don haka, an yi masa ƙazantar suna a cikin sufuri na jama'a ta hanyar allunan talla. 09:22.792 --> 09:29.876 Sa'an nan mutane 15, 'yan sanda 12 ko 15, suka ziyarce shi a gida. 09:29.876 --> 09:33.083 An cika shi da makamai sosai, tare da hular kariya da duk kayan haɗi. 09:33.083 --> 09:38.667 Tursasawa marar misali ga wani mutum mai shekaru 80 tare da matarsa a gida. 09:38.667 --> 09:43.834 Sa'an nan, bayan mun tsara wurin, kamar yadda ake cewa, mun ɗauki wasu hotuna. 09:43.834 --> 09:46.459 Tabbas, mutum zai iya tunanin yadda hakan ya kasance. 09:46.459 --> 09:47.876 Kamar filin yaƙi! 09:47.876 --> 09:49.250 Tabbas! 09:49.250 --> 09:54.710 Kuma sun wallafa hotunan – ba za mu iya fahimtar yadda kotu za ta iya yin irin wannan ba. 09:54.710 --> 10:00.310 Akwai masu sauraro. Wurin masu sauraro koyaushe cike yake. 10:00.310 --> 10:04.292 Sannan suka nuna wa kowa yadda gidansa yake. 10:04.292 --> 10:08.542 Kalmar zagi, na rasa abin faɗa. 10:08.542 --> 10:15.216 To, kawai dai, me ke faruwa da kai a cikin wannan tsari idan ka tsaya gaban wannan tsarin shari'a? 10:15.216 --> 10:19.407 Eh. Tambayoyin da kotu ta ɗaga suna da wata magana daban. 10:19.407 --> 10:25.883 Keta hakkin bil Adama saboda tsoratarwa, saboda tsoro, saboda lalata dukiya ta hanyar irin 10:25.883 --> 10:30.209 waɗannan tsoma baki, ta irin waɗannan binciken gida. 10:30.209 --> 10:33.761 Waɗannan takurawar hakkin ɗan adam ne. Kuma a nan ne suke ɗaukar mataki. Mai kyau ƙwarai. 10:33.761 --> 10:41.334 Yanzu da ka jefa kanka cikin wannan matsala, wane ne mafi kyawun hanya don kare kanka daga gare ta? 10:41.334 --> 10:46.000 Akwai wani abu da za ka iya, za ka so, ko za ka so ka tallafa? 10:46.000 --> 10:52.876 Tabbas, wajibcinmu ne mu tallafa wa mutanen da ake tsananta musu saboda batutuwan hakkin ɗan adam. 10:52.876 --> 10:56.635 Ba mu shiga al'amuran da suka shafi dokar laifi ba. 10:56.635 --> 10:59.292 Wannan shi ne abin da lauyoyi ke yi. Muna goyon bayan lauyoyi. 10:59.292 --> 11:06.584 Alal misali, a halin yanzu muna da wani shari'a a Heidelberg da ya shafi lahani sakamakon allurar rigakafi, lahani mai tsanani. 11:06.584 --> 11:13.734 Muna aiki kai tsaye tare da lauyoyi, ana wakiltar mu a shari'o'in kotu, kuma ina so in nuna irin 11:13.734 --> 11:17.417 aikin da muke yi a can domin mutane su iya tunanin sa. 11:17.417 --> 11:22.959 Mutane kullum suna tunanin suna zuwa can ne don su ba da labari ko su fusata. Ba haka bane. 11:22.959 --> 11:33.834 Muna aiki sosai. Misali, a nan muna da wata takarda game da wannan shari'ar kotu a Heidelberg. Ina so kawai in nuna maka hakan. 11:33.834 --> 11:36.250 Wannan shafuka da yawa ne sosai. Kimanin nawa ne shafukan? 11:36.250 --> 11:39.042 Wannan kusan shafuka 70 ne. 11:39.042 --> 11:41.751 Wannan kawai sakamakon bayaninmu ne. 11:41.751 --> 11:47.845 Mun yi nazari sosai kan dubban shafuka na kwangiloli, lahani na alluran rigakafi, don haka 11:47.845 --> 11:51.125 an shirya kwangiloli da BioNTech da sauransu. 11:51.125 --> 11:58.167 An shafe wata guda ana aiki a kai. Kuma kamar yadda na ce, wannan takarda ce da ba ta wanzu tukuna. 11:58.167 --> 12:02.687 Kuma muna sanya wannan a shirye ga lauyoyi da ke magance shari'o'in lahani na alluran 12:02.687 --> 12:05.690 rigakafi. Amma sai dai idan za a iya tabbatar da hakan. 12:05.690 --> 12:09.792 Muna buƙatar lambobin nuni, muna buƙatar lauya, sannan za mu samar da wannan kyauta. 12:09.792 --> 12:14.876 Don haka a wannan yanayin, lahani na allurar rigakafi a matsayin take hakkin ɗan adam. 12:14.876 --> 12:19.626 Eh, daidai ne. Wannan take ne ga hakkin bil'adama, a ganinmu. 12:19.626 --> 12:25.542 'Yan siyasa sun yi alkawari sau da yawa cewa za su magance matsalar. Amma babu abin da ya faru. 12:25.542 --> 12:30.709 Wannan yana nufin cewa dole ne mu yi ƙoƙarin samun ƙarin bayani ta hanyar shari'a. 12:30.709 --> 12:37.680 Masana kimiyya sun dade suna ƙoƙarin rubuta hakan, amma ana nuna musu wariya a bainar jama'a, don haka mutane 12:37.680 --> 12:44.083 ba sa yarda da abin da masana kimiyya ke faɗa idan bai yi daidai da manufofin gwamnati ba. 12:44.083 --> 12:50.542 Don haka muna da damar, da fatan za mu yi nasara a kotu idan muna da gaskiya. 12:50.542 --> 13:00.606 Kyakkyawa. Don haka, a wannan yanayin, an take hakkin bil'adama, musamman ma hakkin asali na cikakken lafiyar jiki, wanda aka rushe 13:00.606 --> 13:05.918 gaba ɗaya ta wannan allurar rigakafi da lahani da ta haifar. 13:05.918 --> 13:09.711 Wannan ya shafi lahani na allurar rigakafi da matsalolin maski. 13:09.711 --> 13:15.328 Kamar yadda muka gani a shari'ar Hamburg da ta shafi Walter Weber, ƙwararren kotu Dr Ondruschka, Farfesa Dr 13:15.328 --> 13:21.000 Benjamin Ondruschka, ya gano cewa akwai ƙarancin hujjoji da ke nuna cewa maski na taimakawa. 13:21.000 --> 13:25.918 Kuma kan ƙwayar cutar da ta fi kowacce haɗari a ko wane lokaci, hujjoji kaɗan ne. 13:25.918 --> 13:30.709 Kuma duk da haka, an yanke wa Walter Weber hukuncin shekara ɗaya da watanni goma a gidan yari. 13:30.709 --> 13:32.792 Eh, kuma tsoratarwa a saman haka. 13:32.792 --> 13:33.250 Duk wannan. 13:33.250 --> 13:35.788 Kuma ƙazantar suna a bainar jama'a. Lokacin da ya ce: 13:35.788 --> 13:41.246 Darajar ɗan adam ba za a iya take ta ba. Amma an take darajarsa sosai. 13:41.246 --> 13:45.085 Kuma ba shi kaɗai ba ne. Akwai likitoci da yawa da suka ji haka. 13:45.085 --> 13:47.292 An hana su hanyoyin samun abin rayuwa. 13:47.292 --> 13:53.042 Ba a sake ba ka izinin yin aiki ba. An soke lasisinka na yin likita. 13:53.042 --> 14:00.292 Kudaden shiga sune sifili. Hakanan muna da wani lamari inda matar talaka ce kuma yanzu tana dogaro da taimakon makwabta. 14:00.292 --> 14:12.015 Wato, akwai mutane da ba sa bayyana ra'ayoyin da suka dace da tsarin siyasa, waɗanda ke kiyaye rantsuwar Hippocratic kuma ba sa 14:12.015 --> 14:17.125 goyon bayan ra'ayoyi da buƙatun 'yan siyasa da ba su da hujja. 14:17.125 --> 14:20.542 Mun san cewa 'yan siyasa sun yanke shawarar siyasa. 14:20.542 --> 14:24.542 A wannan fanni, hukuncin kotu ba za su iya zama bisa hujjoji ba. 14:24.542 --> 14:34.108 Don haka, kuna nufin yanzu, saboda waɗannan ƙa'idodin RKI, wato ƙa'idodin Cibiyar Robert Koch, waɗanda ke tabbatar 14:34.108 --> 14:42.792 da cewa ba a buƙatar matakan coronavirus, misali, ba a buƙatar yin rigakafi, cewa babu ainihin kariya. 14:42.792 --> 14:48.392 Sun san hakan, kuma babu wata buƙata, amma duk da haka an aiwatar da shi. Don haka wannan hanyar 14:48.392 --> 14:51.500 da ta dogara da hujjoji ba ta wanzu kwata-kwata. 14:51.500 --> 14:55.500 Eh, a wannan fanni ma ba za mu iya tsammanin yanke hukunci na kotu bisa hujjoji ba. 14:55.500 --> 14:59.209 Wannan siyasa ce. Kuma sannan hukuncin ma ta atomatik siyasa ce. 14:59.209 --> 15:02.306 Eh, na fahimta sosai. Na fahimta sosai. 15:02.306 --> 15:06.083 Yanzu mun yi nazari kan wasu misalai kaɗan. 15:06.083 --> 15:11.500 Shin kuna da wasu misalai a cikin, mu ce, jerin kayayyakin ku? 15:11.500 --> 15:14.792 Eh, tabbas muna da misalai daga Hungary da Poland. 15:14.792 --> 15:16.584 A matsayinmu na masu kare hakkin bil'adama, mu ma muna fuskantar tasiri. 15:16.584 --> 15:17.918 Shin kai kanka ka shafa? 15:17.918 --> 15:26.709 Eh, tabbas. Ba mu zama marasa aminci ba idan muka fallasa abubuwan da hukumomi, 'yan siyasa da alkalai suka aikata. 15:26.709 --> 15:35.459 Aikinmu ne mu rubuta wannan kuma mu wallafa shi idan babu wata hanya daban da za a bi wajen magance shi. 15:35.459 --> 15:44.360 Don haka hakan na nufin cewa mutanenku, waɗanda ke fafutukar kare hakkin ɗan adam, na kiyaye hakkin ɗan adam, waɗanda ke tsayawa wa 15:44.360 --> 15:49.375 mutane, ana kuma kai musu hari ne daga hukumomi, daga gwamnati? 15:49.375 --> 15:52.542 Eh, a fili haka yake. Wataƙila zan iya nuna hakan. 15:52.542 --> 15:54.751 Eh, da farin ciki, da farin ciki. Mai ban sha'awa sosai. 15:54.751 --> 16:00.918 Alal misali, muna da wanda ya kafa ƙungiyar, Udo Leibmann, ɗan Jamus ne wanda yake zaune a Poland. 16:00.918 --> 16:08.542 An kai masa mummunan hari, kusan an kashe shi, an azabtar da shi sau biyu, da sauransu. 16:08.542 --> 16:09.542 An azabtar da shi ta hannun wa? 16:09.542 --> 16:13.217 A Poland, misali, ta hannun 'yan sanda. 16:13.217 --> 16:20.356 An kai masa hari mai tsanani har kusan bai tsira ba. Tabbas, yana ci gaba da aiki kuma baya barin a tsorata shi. 16:20.356 --> 16:24.803 Kuma, tabbas, ɗaya daga cikin mafi kyawun mutane da muke da su a harkokin kare hakkin 16:24.803 --> 16:27.751 ɗan adam, aƙalla a Jamus, idan ba a Turai ba. 16:27.751 --> 16:30.834 Tabbas, ana kai masa mummunan hari ne domin kawar da shi. 16:30.834 --> 16:37.292 Bayan shari'ar kotu da ba ta yi nasara ba, za a tura shi asibitin kwakwalwa. 16:37.292 --> 16:48.280 Ya kamata in ambata cewa lauyanmu, wanda ya cancanci yin aiki a kotunan duniya, Attila Monostory a Hungary, 16:48.280 --> 16:57.125 da ni mun yi tafiya tare zuwa ganawar likitan kwakwalwa a Poland don tallafawa Udo Leibmann. 16:57.125 --> 17:02.195 Mun yi nasara. Ba su samu damar kai shi asibitin kwakwalwa ba. 17:02.195 --> 17:05.999 Yana ci gaba da aiki. Haka za a iya cewa game da Attila Monostory. 17:05.999 --> 17:08.500 Shin zan iya katse ku na ɗan gajeren lokaci sake? 17:08.500 --> 17:14.334 Me Mista Leibmann ya yi a Poland har ya ƙare a kotu a can, ko me ya yi? 17:14.334 --> 17:18.083 Ya yi tsokaci mara kyau game da yakin a Ukraine. 17:18.083 --> 17:19.125 Kuma hakan laifi ne? 17:19.125 --> 17:25.459 Wannan laifi ne a Poland. Za ka iya fassara shi yadda kake so, kuma suka gurfanar da shi a gaban kotu. 17:25.459 --> 17:33.930 Ba mu ga ana gabatar da muhimman batutuwa na gaske ba, sai dai ana haɗa su gaba ɗaya, a juya su zuwa 17:33.930 --> 17:38.250 hari kan mutum, sannan a gabatar da su gaban kotu. 17:38.250 --> 17:44.971 Kuma idan ba ku da tsarin shari'a kamar yadda muka sani a baya, amma maimakon haka ofishin lauyan jama'a ko kotuna ke 17:44.971 --> 17:52.959 ƙarƙashin tasirin siyasa – muna da hakan a nan Jamus ma tare da ofisoshin lauyan jama'a, waɗanda ke ƙarƙashin tasirin siyasa. 17:52.959 --> 17:54.755 Ba lallai ne mai gabatar da kara na gwamnati ya kare kansa ba. 17:54.755 --> 17:57.626 Zai iya, amma a lokacin aikinsa zai ƙare. 17:57.626 --> 18:03.792 Don haka waɗannan dogaro-dabaro ma suna wanzuwa a Poland, sannan wani abu makamancin haka ya faru. 18:03.792 --> 18:09.792 Kuma idan ba ka samu ci gaba da shari'ar kotu ba, kamar yadda ya faru, sai ka koma ga likitan kwakwalwa. 18:09.792 --> 18:17.334 Kai. Wannan yana cewa, to, wannan mutumin yana da, mu ce, wata halayya ta ban mamaki, dole mu kulle shi. 18:17.334 --> 18:24.500 Daidai. An yi alƙawari da likitan kwakwalwa, sai muka shiga ginin da ake gudanar da waɗannan gwaje-gwajen. 18:24.500 --> 18:31.500 Kamar yadda na ce, ni da Attila mun bayyana tare da wani wakili daga manema labarai, sannan muka soke shi. 18:31.500 --> 18:39.209 Wannan yana kama da ranakun duhu na Tarayyar Soviet, lokacin da ake tsare masu adawa, ko? 18:39.209 --> 18:43.667 Haka kuma an kulle su a sassan asibitin kwakwalwa. 18:43.667 --> 18:47.167 A ɓangarorin asibitin kwakwalwa, wannan shi ne abin da ke ɓoye a cikinsa. 18:47.167 --> 18:49.999 Ba ka rataye kowa ba. A ina za a ajiye gawar? 18:49.999 --> 18:52.959 Akwai hanyoyi daban-daban na kawar da mutane. 18:52.959 --> 18:55.083 Tabbas, ba ya kamata a kashe kowa ba. 18:55.083 --> 18:59.171 Amma tabbas yana da sauƙi a kawar da mutum ta hanyar tura shi asibitin kwakwalwa, sai ya tafi kuma 18:59.171 --> 19:01.042 a manta da shi. Idan ya mutu, babu wanda ya lura. 19:01.042 --> 19:01.459 Mai ban sha'awa. 19:01.459 --> 19:03.792 Sun yi ƙoƙarin hakan da Attila a Hungary ma. 19:03.792 --> 19:06.375 Menene hakan? Me ke faruwa? 19:06.375 --> 19:13.315 Ya kai masu yaudaran kuɗi gaban kotu kuma ya kare mutane da yawa da suka kasance waɗanda abin ya shafa a 19:13.315 --> 19:17.334 harkokin kuɗi, abin da gwamnati ba ta so kwata-kwata. 19:17.334 --> 19:23.906 Ya gano cin hanci da makamantansu, sai suka tilasta masa ya tafi, suka zargi shi da matsalolin 19:23.906 --> 19:28.549 hankali kuma suka yi ƙoƙarin kai shi sashen kwakwalwa. 19:28.549 --> 19:34.459 Muna da mutuwar masu kare hakkin bil Adama. 19:34.459 --> 19:38.876 An kafa wannan ne ta hidimar kimiyya. 19:38.876 --> 19:45.299 A shekarar 2023, an samu kididdiga na shekarar 2021. Ina tsammanin an kashe mutane 358, masu 19:45.299 --> 19:50.292 fafutukar kare hakkin bil'adama, a shekarar 2021 kadai. 19:50.292 --> 19:56.770 Kuma da ƙananan ƙungiyoyin da ke akwai, za a iya tunanin cewa adadin yana da matuƙar yawa; banda azabtarwa 19:56.770 --> 20:02.709 da sauran abubuwa, tsarewa a kurkuku, hana samun hanyoyin rayuwa, duk suna bin iri ɗaya. 20:02.709 --> 20:07.500 Kuma Majalisar Turai ma ta rubuta hakan. 20:07.500 --> 20:11.250 To. Kuma kun samu damar fitar da abokin aikinku a Hungary ma? 20:11.250 --> 20:12.959 Eh, mun yi nasarar fitar da shi daga wasan ma. 20:12.959 --> 20:18.125 Yau yana da 'yanci kuma zai iya motsawa sake, ya ci gaba da aikinsa. 20:18.125 --> 20:25.417 Kyau. Amma a Jamus daban yake fiye da a Hungary da Poland. Har yanzu suna da 'yanci, suna nan a fili. 20:25.417 --> 20:27.459 Tabbas an yi mana gargaɗi. 20:27.459 --> 20:32.876 Da farko, dole ne in ce cewa mu ma a halitta muna buƙatar wayar da kan al'umma! 20:32.876 --> 20:42.334 Idan muna kanmu, kuma kamar a wannan yanayin mun taimaki juna cikin nasara, ba za mu iya dogaro da hakan ba. 20:42.334 --> 20:48.584 Ni ma an kai min hari. Sun yi ƙoƙarin... kamar yadda kake gani, na manta komai. 20:48.584 --> 20:50.542 Yi hakuri, eh. 20:50.542 --> 20:53.083 Shi ya sa nake nan. 20:53.083 --> 20:55.834 Sun yi ƙoƙarin a ayyana ni a doka a matsayin marar ikon yanke shawara. 20:55.834 --> 20:56.500 Gaskiya? 20:56.500 --> 20:57.209 Eh. Kuma sai ku kwace komai daga gare ni. 20:57.209 --> 20:58.999 Ba za a iya gaskata ba. 20:58.999 --> 21:01.241 Sai a yi maka tsanani. An kira ni in bayyana a kotu. 21:01.241 --> 21:03.792 Sun kuma zo gidana suka yi ƙoƙarin shiga. 21:03.792 --> 21:06.568 Mutane ba su taɓa ganina ba. Ba su taɓa ganina a duk rayuwarsu ba. 21:06.568 --> 21:12.690 Amma suna son kawar da ikon shari'ata saboda na yi mantuwa ko wani abu. 21:12.690 --> 21:17.083 Ban taɓa halartar ganawar ba, amma nan da nan na sami shawarwari masu kyau sosai. 21:17.083 --> 21:23.000 Mun san game da dabaru marasa kyau, dole ne in yi gaskiya game da hakan, ban iya tunanin wani abu da zan ce ba. 21:23.000 --> 21:28.999 Kuma nan da nan muka kira lauyoyinmu a Jamus don samun shawara nan take. 21:28.999 --> 21:34.879 Beate Bahner ta wakilce ni kuma ta yi nasarar warware al'amura har ban ƙare a sashen kwakwalwa ba. In ba 21:34.879 --> 21:37.999 haka ba, da ba zan kasance anan tare da ku a yau ba. 21:37.999 --> 21:42.641 Wannan abin al'ajabi ne. Amma yaya za ka yi bayani a kansa? 21:42.641 --> 21:56.167 Ta yaya zai yiwu a cikin dimokuradiyyar misali ta Jamus, alƙalai ke aiki a kan mutane? 21:56.167 --> 22:04.782 Ko mu ce haka: aiki ne a kan masu fallasa gaskiya waɗanda ke son bayyana rashin daidaito domin gyara cin 22:04.782 --> 22:10.626 zarafi? Ta yaya hakan ke faruwa? Ta yaya hakan zai iya faruwa? 22:10.626 --> 22:16.459 Tabbas, ba za a wallafa shi a wannan siffa ba ta hannun hukumomin da ke da alhakin hakan. 22:16.459 --> 22:22.375 A nan da can, wani lokaci muna iya samun bayanai da ba a nufa gare mu ba. 22:22.375 --> 22:23.042 To, menene hakan zai kasance? 22:23.042 --> 22:25.999 Na kawo misali na wannan. 22:25.999 --> 22:26.876 Ah, abin sha'awa ne. 22:26.876 --> 22:30.083 Wataƙila za mu iya karanta wannan a nan. 22:30.083 --> 22:30.959 Zan iya duba? 22:30.959 --> 22:33.834 Wannan ya fito ne daga Rhineland-Palatinate da Saarland. 22:33.834 --> 22:47.178 Oh. Me yake cewa? "Rhineland-Palatinate da Saarland, shirin horo na haɗin gwiwa na shari'a na Rhineland-Palatinate da Saarland." 22:47.178 --> 22:53.976 'Yan ƙasar Reich, masu ƙin amincewa da coronavirus, ra'ayoyin makirci da mabiyansu a matsayin ƙalubale da 22:53.976 --> 22:57.959 haɗari ga tsarin shari'a. Wannan kuwa ya yi tsanani sosai. 22:57.959 --> 22:58.918 Eh. 22:58.918 --> 22:59.918 Don haka, an leƙa musu wannan. 22:59.918 --> 23:02.959 Eh. Wani lokaci muna samun abubuwan da suka dace. 23:02.959 --> 23:06.000 Wani lokaci ma za mu iya shiga wasu shirye-shirye na horo. 23:06.000 --> 23:08.918 Muna matukar farin ciki idan muka samu irin wannan gayyata ba da gangan ba. 23:08.918 --> 23:14.240 Mu ma muna da isasshen bayani, amma har yanzu ba mu sami tallatawa ba, shi ya sa muke matuƙar godiya ga 23:14.240 --> 23:19.751 Kla.TV cewa yau muna iya ba da rahoto kan yadda muke aiki da kuma cewa muna yin aiki mai muhimmanci. 23:19.751 --> 23:28.480 Wannan yana nufin, a zahiri, cewa abin da muka lissafa a baya, mutanen da, a ganina, yanzu suke fama da lahani sakamakon allurar 23:28.480 --> 23:35.776 rigakafi a tsarin kiwon lafiya, kuma yanzu har ma da gwajin maski – ana ɗaukar su kawai a matsayin masu ƙin 23:35.776 --> 23:42.584 Corona kuma saboda haka suke zama ƙalubale, haɗari ga tsarin shari'a. Kuma wannan ne batun horo? 23:42.584 --> 23:43.083 Eh. 23:43.083 --> 23:48.999 Ba abin mamaki ba ne cewa ana ɗaukar mutane irin ku a matsayin abokan gaba, ko? 23:48.999 --> 23:50.655 Eh. Kuma sai mu yi yaƙi don tsira. 23:50.655 --> 23:54.125 Don taimaka wa mutane da ba ma san su ba. 23:54.125 --> 24:01.250 Kuma hakan na nufin muna sa ran al'umma za ta kula da hakkin bil'adama na kanta da farko. 24:01.250 --> 24:03.876 Ba mu sake cikin zamanin Adenauer da Helmut Schmidt ba. 24:03.876 --> 24:12.334 Mun gane muhimmancinsa kuma muna ƙarfafa mutane su ɗauki alhakin hakkin ɗan adam nasu, kada su dogara ga wasu. 24:12.334 --> 24:17.709 Muna taimaka wa waɗanda ke buƙatar taimako, waɗanda ba za su iya taimakon kansu ba. 24:17.709 --> 24:23.999 Sa'an nan mun isa can, kuma muna sanya rayuwarmu da abin dogaro na rayuwarmu cikin haɗari don taimaka wa mutane. 24:23.999 --> 24:32.792 Eh, kyau sosai. Mai kyau ƙwarai. Don haka, daga wannan gajeriyar tattaunawar da muka yi, na ga cewa kana da aiki sosai, ko? 24:32.792 --> 24:35.834 Za ka iya cewa haka. Tabbas, ba shi da sauƙi haka. 24:35.834 --> 24:41.584 Ba za mu iya kawai tambayar kowa ba: Shin kuna son ku zo tare da mu? Mun san cewa da yawa suna son... 24:41.584 --> 24:43.667 Amma kuna son samun ma'aikata da yawa? 24:43.667 --> 24:47.876 Eh, za ka iya cewa haka. Amma ba a kowane farashi ba. 24:47.876 --> 24:54.880 Muna so mu karfafa wasu shirye-shirye a wurare daban-daban, watakila inda wani ke sha'awar ci gaba da karatu, 24:54.880 --> 24:59.459 ya ɗauki wani abu da ya shafi hakkin ɗan adam da kariya. 24:59.459 --> 25:00.334 Za mu iya tuntuɓar ku a can? 25:00.334 --> 25:03.292 Duk wanda yake son kafa wannan zai iya tuntuɓar mu. 25:03.292 --> 25:06.542 Za mu iya samar da horo da shawarwari. 25:06.542 --> 25:14.999 Kuma idan muka gano cewa wani yana da gaske sha'awar shiga, to za mu iya kuma roƙon mutanen wannan zagaye su shiga. 25:14.999 --> 25:18.751 Mu a Kwamitin Ƙa'idojin Ƙamun-dāni za mu kasance masu alhakin amincewa da wannan. 25:18.751 --> 25:21.000 Kuma daga baya za su iya kuma yin aiki tare da United for Freedom. 25:21.000 --> 25:22.999 Wannan abin al'ajabi ne. 25:22.999 --> 25:30.834 Wannan ya kawo mu ƙarshen tattaunawar mu ta yau. 25:30.834 --> 25:36.918 Abin da ka gaya mana daga kwarewarka ta aiki ya kasance mai ilimantarwa sosai. 25:36.918 --> 25:45.709 Kuma za mu nuna inda duk wanda yake sha'awa kuma yake son shiga da tallafa mana zai iya tuntuɓar mu. 25:45.709 --> 25:48.751 Na gode ƙwarai da gaske da wannan tattaunawa mai ban sha'awa, Mista Hummitzsch. 25:48.751 --> 25:57.626 Muna yi muku fatan ƙarfi mai yawa da kuma juriya ga dukkan tawagarku wajen aiwatar da ayyukanku. 25:57.626 --> 25:58.667 Na gode ƙwarai. 25:58.667 --> 26:01.584 Ina ganin hakan ya kawo mu mataki ɗaya kusa da jama'a. 26:01.584 --> 26:06.527 Za ku ga cewa ba mu 'yan laifi ba ne, amma muna son taimaka wa mutane da gaske. Wannan 26:06.527 --> 26:09.459 shine aikimmu, babu wani abu fiye da haka. 26:09.459 --> 26:11.375 Mai ban mamaki. 26:11.375 --> 26:12.083 Na gode. 26:12.083 --> 26:12.626 Ba komai.