WEBVTT 00:00.500 --> 00:09.289 Re amohela Karl Hummitzsch ho tswa ho "United for Freedom", mokgatlo o ikemetseng wa 00:09.289 --> 00:15.375 ditokelo tsa botho, setsing sa rona sa thelevishene. 00:15.375 --> 00:22.459 Mme Monghadi Hummitzsch, re a leboha haholo ka ho ipha nako ya ho etsa puisano ena le ho araba dipotso tsa rona tsa bohlokwa. 00:22.459 --> 00:26.703 Lebitsong la mokgatlo wa rona, le nna ke rata ho leboha ka botebo ka monyetla wa ho 00:26.703 --> 00:29.542 tsepamisa maikutlo tabeng ya ditokelo tsa botho. 00:29.542 --> 00:35.000 Hobane ke dumela hore setjhaba se ntse se tseba ho se kae ka seo se ka se etsang ka sona. Jwale ke nako e ntle bakeng sa seo. 00:35.000 --> 00:39.746 Hantle! Litaba tsa litokelo tsa botho – mohlomong u tsamaea haholo mose ho maoatle ho ea 00:39.746 --> 00:42.542 linaheng tse bitsoang "linaha tse khelohileng". 00:42.542 --> 00:50.715 Che, le hanyenyane. Ha re ahlole hore na ke eng se etsang hore naha e be e sa laoleheng, empa re shebile batho ba tobaneng le 00:50.715 --> 00:56.468 mathata a tlhoriso, a litokelo tsa botho, ba tlas'a matsoho a ba boholong, a makhotla le 00:56.468 --> 01:00.792 baqosi ba sechaba. Mme re sheba mahlakore ka bobedi. 01:00.792 --> 01:05.709 E, ho lokile. Mme o hahlaula haholo hokae? 01:05.709 --> 01:10.000 Kahoo re ikarabella ebile re emetsoe naheng ea Hungary, Poland le Jeremane. 01:10.000 --> 01:15.574 Ke ikarabella bakeng sa Jeremane mme, hara tse ding, ke boetse ke sebetsana le ditaba tsa matla a taolo 01:15.574 --> 01:18.667 dinyeweng tsa mona tseo re nang le tsona Jeremane. 01:18.667 --> 01:25.626 Ho lokile. Litlolo tsa litokelo tsa botho Jeremane – joaloka motho feela, ke lokela ho utloisisa sena joang? 01:25.626 --> 01:29.083 Re na le puso ya batho ka batho e molemo ka ho fetisisa ho feta tsohle. 01:29.083 --> 01:34.667 Ho ka etsahalang joang hore ho be le ditlolo tsa ditokelo tsa botho Jeremane? Mohlomong o na le mohlala? 01:34.667 --> 01:40.631 Che, ha ho na tlolo e ngata ea litokelo tsa botho, empa rea hlokomela hore ho na le libaka tse itseng, batho ba itseng ba 01:40.631 --> 01:45.116 shebilweng ka ho khetheha, moo re boelang re fumana maikutlo a hore ba hlorisoa ka mabaka a 01:45.116 --> 01:48.292 lipolotiki eseng feela ka lebaka la litlolo tsa molao. 01:48.292 --> 01:52.292 Ho boetse ho na le motsoako, mme re na le mehlala e seng mekae ea hona. Mohlomong re ka bua ka hona. 01:52.292 --> 01:56.918 E, tswela pele. O na le mohlala ofe oo o re boloketseng ona? 01:56.918 --> 02:05.239 Hantle, re ka qala ka e 'ngoe ea linyeoe tse tsebahalang haholo, Monghali Füllmich, eo ka lehlakoreng le leng a hlahelletseng 02:05.239 --> 02:11.364 lipolotiking, empa ka lehlakoreng le leng o tobane le liqoso tsa botlokotsebe, 'me re tobane 02:11.364 --> 02:15.500 le potso ea hore na re sebetsane le sena joang. 02:15.500 --> 02:19.417 Mme re fihletse qeto ya hore tlolo ya ditokelo tsa botho e kanna yaba e etsahetse mona. 02:19.417 --> 02:20.959 Ka tsela efe? 02:20.959 --> 02:29.297 Re ka sheba ho Mohlahlobi ea Khethehileng oa Machaba a Kopaneng, ea bolelang hore ho koalloa chankaneng, haholo-holo 02:29.297 --> 02:33.834 ho koalloa u le mong ka matsatsi a 15, ke tlhokofatso. 02:33.834 --> 02:39.643 Re hlokometse mme ra fihlela qeto ya hore sena ke tlolo ya molao, hobane dikgwedi tse 02:39.643 --> 02:43.542 tsheletseng tsa ho kwallwa o le mong di se di qalile. 02:43.542 --> 02:44.459 Kgoallo ya boinotshi? 02:44.459 --> 02:46.751 Kgoallo ya boinotshi, e se e phethilwe. 02:46.751 --> 02:49.250 Likhoeli tse tšeletseng teronkong e ikemetseng bakeng sa Monghali Füllmich? 02:49.250 --> 02:49.999 Ho ke ke ha kgoneha ho nahana. 02:49.999 --> 02:52.723 Mme ho tloha neng ho nkuoa e le tlhokofatso? 02:52.723 --> 02:55.250 Ho tloha matsatsing a 15 kamora UN. 02:55.250 --> 02:56.167 Ho lokile. 02:56.167 --> 02:59.125 Seo se bolela hore ke nako ea hore re kenelle. 02:59.125 --> 03:02.000 Ho lokile, bashebelli ba lokela ho nahana sena jwang? 03:02.000 --> 03:08.751 Kahoo Monghadi Füllmich jwale o se a qetile matsatsi a 15 a le qahane, e leng nako e fetang matsatsi a 15. 03:08.751 --> 03:16.250 Nka nahana hore qalong ho hobe haholo. Mme ke hobaneng ha ho tlameha ho ahlolwa ka thata hakaale? Na ho na le ditlamorao? 03:16.250 --> 03:19.584 Seo se na le litlamorao, ehlile. 03:19.584 --> 03:23.083 Sena se fokotsa haholo nako eo motho a lebelletseng ho phela. 03:23.083 --> 03:24.125 Ka ho koalloa u le mong? 03:24.125 --> 03:25.334 Ho na le litlhaloso tse tebileng. 03:25.334 --> 03:29.417 Mohlomong re ka bontša seo lenaneong mona. 03:29.417 --> 03:30.918 Ho lokile. 03:30.918 --> 03:31.918 Mohlomong e le sehokelo. 03:31.918 --> 03:37.397 Kahoo haeba tlhokofatso e ntse e etsahala, mme ho ya ka melawana ya Machaba a Kopaneng, e se e na le matsatsi a 15 e ntse e 03:37.397 --> 03:40.459 tswela pele, ka tlhaho re ikutlwa re tlamehile ho kena dipakeng. 03:40.459 --> 03:44.610 E, hoo ho matla haholo. Ho lokile, ha re e behe kelellong. 03:44.610 --> 03:48.542 Reiner Füllmich, ho koalloa u le mong, tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho. 03:48.542 --> 03:54.909 Ke taba e hlakileng. Ho ya ka melawana ya Machaba a Kopaneng, ntho efe kapa efe e fetang matsatsi a 15 e nkuwa 03:54.909 --> 03:58.250 e le tlhokofatso. Mme o qetile dikgwedi tse tsheletseng. 03:58.250 --> 04:02.501 Hoo ho a hlanya, ho etsahalang moo? Na o na le mehlala e meng e tshwanang ho tswa 04:02.501 --> 04:05.276 tsamaisong ya dikgojane? E meng e tshwanang, akere? 04:05.276 --> 04:10.709 Ho na le tse tšoanang, ehlile. Empa tabeng ena, re fane ka tlhaloso e qaqileng. 04:10.709 --> 04:15.554 Re se re romeletse sena ho babuelli. Ke tla se bontsha ka bokgutshwane mona. 04:15.554 --> 04:22.230 Re romeletse babuelli ba molao sengoloa sa pele sa maqephe a ka bang 20. Ebe ba ka sebetsa ka sona. 04:22.230 --> 04:23.000 Ho tsoa ho Monghadi Füllmich? 04:23.000 --> 04:25.459 Bakeng sa Monghadi Füllmich, re fetisitse sena ho babuelli ba molao. 04:25.459 --> 04:27.792 Mme ba sebetsa ka yona, ba tswela pele ka yona. 04:27.792 --> 04:30.792 Mme ha jwale, maemo a ho tshwarwa le ona a nolofaditswe. 04:30.792 --> 04:32.709 Ho ipapisitse le mosebetsi oa hau? 04:32.709 --> 04:33.375 E, har'a lintho tse ling. 04:33.375 --> 04:36.808 Ehlile, babuelli ba molao ba tla tswela pele ho sebetsa le yona, kahoo ba tla ba le 04:36.808 --> 04:39.125 tlatsetso ya ditokelo tsa botho mabapi le taba ena. 04:39.125 --> 04:39.667 Ho babatseha. 04:39.667 --> 04:44.542 Mme ka mora moo ba ba le menyetla ya ho tswelapele ho sebetsa le mekgatlo e amehang. 04:44.542 --> 04:47.330 Le nka litokomane tsa rona mabapi le taba ena. Sena se boetse se kenyelelitsoe lipuong tsa ho qetela. 04:47.330 --> 04:49.670 Ebe re bona diphetho, ebe re ikgula. 04:49.670 --> 04:53.459 Ha re hloke ho etsa taba e kholo ka hona. E tla etsahala ka bo eona. 04:53.459 --> 04:56.000 Empa ha re na letho le amanang le litaba tsa botlokotsebe. 04:56.000 --> 05:01.783 Ho lokile, empa ha re beye seo ka thoko hajoale ka mantsoe a mang: 05:01.783 --> 05:11.209 Haeba o ne o sa etsa dipatlisiso tsa hao, na Monghadi Füllmich o ne a ntse a le teronkong a le mong, a kgaohane le ba bang? 05:11.209 --> 05:14.181 Kahoo o ne a se a qetile likhoeli tse tšeletseng a tenehile pele re kena lipakeng. 05:14.181 --> 05:17.125 Kahoo re entse seo ka boikemelo. Ha rea bitsoa ho etsa joalo. 05:17.125 --> 05:25.776 Re ingodisa, re kena ka tlung ya kgotla ka tumello, re mamela tshebetso, ebe re bua le ramolao ya ka sehloohong wa ts'ireletso, 05:25.776 --> 05:30.209 re hlakisa boemo, mme ba nka marapo mme ba sebetsana le taba. 05:30.209 --> 05:36.076 Hantle. E, hantle, joale maemo a ho tshwarwa. 05:36.076 --> 05:40.203 Na o na le mohlala o mong moo wena, moshebelli, mme mohlomong le rona... 05:40.203 --> 05:47.709 Hantle, ho hlakile hore ke mohopolo o sa thabiseng ho hang bakeng sa ka ha re tlameha ho ntša motho chankaneng. 05:47.709 --> 05:52.119 Mona re na le taba ea mofumahali ea lilemong tsa hae tsa mashome a mane, eo, ka maikutlo a rona, a 05:52.119 --> 05:54.500 sa khoneng ho ikarabella bakeng sa liketso tsa hae. 05:54.500 --> 05:58.459 Re ile ra fumana mohala o tšohanyetso mantsiboea. 05:58.459 --> 06:07.667 Ka mor'a moo ka ea Vechta teronkong. Mosali eo ha a lokela ho koalloa teronkong ho hang. 06:07.667 --> 06:09.876 Hoo ho ile ha iponahatsa jwang ho mosadi enwa? 06:09.876 --> 06:11.425 Ha a kgone ho tsamaya ho hang. 06:11.425 --> 06:16.250 Ke ole ka letsatsi la pele la phethahatso. 06:16.250 --> 06:24.061 O ne a se a sa kgone ho tsamaya, kahoo ra ya teng ka koloi mme ra ikutlwa re tlamehile ho mo ntsha moo hanghang. 06:24.061 --> 06:31.850 Eaba kea li amohela. Ke tlameha ho bolela hore, ka lehlakoreng le leng, u ka beha motho ea joalo teronkong joang? 06:31.850 --> 06:36.625 Mme ka lehlakoreng le leng, re tlameha hape ho leboha basebetsi ba okametseng, bao ke 06:36.625 --> 06:39.584 dumelang ba ne ba thabile haholo ho di lahla. 06:39.584 --> 06:42.259 Ba ne ba sa tsebe hore na ba mo etse joang. O ne a ole, a lemetse. 06:42.259 --> 06:45.751 Sepetlele se ne se le pela-pela, empa ho ne ho se na ya tsotellang. 06:45.751 --> 06:48.375 Eaba ke a ntša 'me ka e ngola fatše. 06:48.375 --> 06:51.625 Mosali o ne a sa kgone ho tsamaya ho hang – a tsamaya feela ka bohloko. 06:51.625 --> 06:53.918 Ke mo isitse sepetlele, se neng se le pela rona. 06:53.918 --> 06:58.375 Ba boetse ba hlahisitse maikutlo a fosahetseng mme ba ne ba sa batle ho e fuputsa ka nepo. 06:58.375 --> 07:02.375 Eaba re kenya kgatello e kgolo, re tshehetsa ka mokgatlo wa rona. 07:02.375 --> 07:04.292 Ka tlhaho re ne re halefile haholo, empa ra itshwarella. 07:04.292 --> 07:09.751 Ke ne ke le sepetlele bosiu bohle. Mosali o ne a tshohile haholo, ehlile. 07:09.751 --> 07:13.667 Mme ka sala haufi ho fihlela a qetile diteko tsa hae. 07:13.667 --> 07:18.083 Eaba ba hana ho fana ka setifikeiti sa ho se tshwanelehe bakeng sa ho tshwarwa. 07:18.083 --> 07:21.300 Ke moo feela moo re neng re ka fihla. Eaba ke mo siela ha motswalle wa hae. 07:21.300 --> 07:26.042 Mme se etsahalang ka mora moo se ka ntle ho taolo ya rona. 07:26.042 --> 07:28.667 Ho lokile, empa e re ke akareletse. 07:28.667 --> 07:35.341 Haeba motho a sa ikarabelle bakeng sa tlolo ea molao empa leha ho le joalo a koaletsoe, sena ke tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho. 07:35.341 --> 07:35.959 Karl Hummitzsch: Ka sebele. 07:35.959 --> 07:37.870 Mme ke moo le kenang teng? 07:37.870 --> 07:38.375 Karl Hummitzsch: E. 07:38.375 --> 07:43.625 Ho babatseha, ho babatseha! Mme le kgonne ho ntsha mosadi teronkong le ho mo nehelana ho 07:43.625 --> 07:48.209 tsamaiso ya bophelo bo botle. Ho babatseha. 07:48.209 --> 07:52.417 Na o na le nyeoe e 'ngoe ea tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho? 07:52.417 --> 07:57.891 Taba ke hore, re sitoa ho nahana hantle hore na ke mefuta efe ea litlolo tsa litokelo tsa botho e teng moo. 07:57.891 --> 08:04.000 Ho tswa phihlelong e sebetsang – ke diketsahalo dife tse ding tsa bohlokwa haholo tse o di hopolang? 08:04.000 --> 08:06.088 Ehlile, re na le linyeoe tse ngata tse nyane. 08:06.088 --> 08:09.250 Empa ho na le tse tsebahalang, ha nka hlalosa. 08:09.250 --> 08:10.375 E, ka kopo. 08:10.375 --> 08:13.753 Nka mohlala oa Walter Weber, ngaka. 08:13.753 --> 08:20.999 Ho thwe ho na le dingaka tse ka bang 1,000 tse qositsweng ka ho fana ka ditifikeiti tsa dimaske. 08:20.999 --> 08:26.184 Ho tlameha hape ho nahanoe hore ho na le dingaka tse dikete tse ngata tse sa kang tsa fana ka letho, empa 08:26.184 --> 08:31.334 rona re sebetsana le batho ba neng ba hlile ba hloka ho lokollwa ka mabaka a bophelo bo botle. 08:31.334 --> 08:39.542 Mohlala, Walter Weber ke ngaka ea mofetše, kahoo le eena o na le bakuli ba mofetše ba hlokang thuso ka potlako. 08:39.542 --> 08:42.125 Leha ho le jwalo, o ile a iswa nyeoeng. 08:42.125 --> 08:45.918 Ke bile teng hoo e ka bang matsatsi ohle a nyeoe. 08:45.918 --> 08:49.998 Ho a makatsa haholo ha o nahana ka se etsahetseng pele ho moo. 08:49.998 --> 08:56.167 E seng feela nyeoeng, empa le tsamaisong ea nyeoe ka boeona. Re bitsa sena mofuta o itseng oa kahlolo e fetileng. 08:56.167 --> 09:00.250 Sena se bolela hore matsatsi a 27 a ditsheko tsa lekgotla a hlophisitswe. 09:00.250 --> 09:01.959 Bakeng sa Dr Walter Weber? 09:01.959 --> 09:02.828 Esale pele. 09:02.828 --> 09:07.792 E le tebello, ke kamoo re e bonang kateng. U tlameha ho itokisetsa li-euro tse 3,000. 09:07.792 --> 09:11.709 Ka ditshenyehelo tse nyane tsa tlatsetso, ditekolo le tse ding, mme kapele-pele o se o shebile £100,000! 09:11.709 --> 09:15.075 Li-euro tse 100,000 pele a ka ahlolwa le ka ntho e le nngwe. 09:15.075 --> 09:18.876 Monna eo ha a na molato. Mme o tla fumana li-euro tse 100,000. 09:18.876 --> 09:22.792 Ka lebaka lena, o ile a nyatswa ka diphoustara diterene le dibese. 09:22.792 --> 09:29.876 Eaba batho ba 15, mapolesa a 12 kapa a 15, ba mo etela lapeng. 09:29.876 --> 09:33.083 A hlometse haholo ka helmete le lisebelisoa tsohle tse e tsamaeang le eona. 09:33.083 --> 09:38.667 Tšoso e e-s'o ka e e-ba teng ho monna ea lilemo li 80 le mosali oa hae lapeng. 09:38.667 --> 09:43.834 Eaba, kamora ho lokisa sebaka, ha re ka rialo, ra nka linepe. 09:43.834 --> 09:46.459 Ehlile, motho a ka nahana hore na seo se ne se shebahala jwang. 09:46.459 --> 09:47.876 Joaloka lebala la ntoa! 09:47.876 --> 09:49.250 Ka sebele! 09:49.250 --> 09:54.710 Mme ba phatlaladitse dinepe – ha re utlwisise hore na lekgotla le ka etsa ntho e jwalo jwang. 09:54.710 --> 10:00.310 Ho na le bamameli. Sebaka sa bamameli se ne se dula se tletse. 10:00.310 --> 10:04.292 Mme yaba ba bontsha bohle hore na lehae la hae le shebahala jwang. 10:04.292 --> 10:08.542 Lefoko le lebe, ke hlotsoe ke mantsoe. 10:08.542 --> 10:15.216 Kahoo, feela e le tlatsetso, ho etsahala'ng ho uena ha u iphumana u le ka pel'a tsamaiso ena ea toka. 10:15.216 --> 10:19.407 E. Dintlha tsa boahlodi ke taba e nngwe. 10:19.407 --> 10:26.068 Tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho ka lebaka la tšoso, ka lebaka la tšabo, le ka lebaka la timetso ea thepa ka har'a ho 10:26.068 --> 10:30.209 kena-kenana ho joalo, le ka lipatlisiso tsa matlo tse joalo. 10:30.209 --> 10:33.761 Tsena ke ditlolo tsa ditokelo tsa botho. Mme ke moo ba nkang kgato teng. Ho lokile haholo. 10:33.761 --> 10:41.334 Mme hang ha o se o iphumane o le bothateng bo joalo, ke mokgwa ofe o motle ka ho fetisisa wa ho itshireletsa ho bona? 10:41.334 --> 10:46.000 Na ho na le letho leo o ka le tšehetsang, o ka le tšehetsang kapa o lakatsang ho le tšehetsa? 10:46.000 --> 10:52.876 Ke tšobotsi ea rona, ehlile, ho tšehetsa batho ba hlorisoang litabeng tse amanang le litokelo tsa botho. 10:52.876 --> 10:56.635 Ha re sebetsane le ditaba tse amanang le molao wa botlokotsebe. 10:56.635 --> 10:59.292 Ke seo babuelli ba molao ba se etsang. Re tšehetsa babuelli ba molao. 10:59.292 --> 11:06.584 Ka mohlala, hajoale re na le nyeoe Heidelberg e mabapi le tshenyo ya ente, tshenyo e matla ya ente. 11:06.584 --> 11:14.081 Re sebetsa ka kotloloho le babuelli ba molao, re emetsoa lits'ebetsong tsa lekhotla, 'me nka rata ho bontša hore na re 11:14.081 --> 11:17.417 etsa mosebetsi o joang moo e le hore batho ba ka o nahana. 11:17.417 --> 11:22.959 Batho ba dula ba nahana hore ba ya teng ho pheta dipale kapa ho qabana. Ha ho jwalo. 11:22.959 --> 11:33.834 Ruri re sebetsa. Ka mohlala, mona re na le tokomane ea nyeoe ena ea lekhotla Heidelberg. Ke batla feela ho u bontša seo. 11:33.834 --> 11:36.250 Ke maqephe a mangata haholo. Ho ka ba maqephe a makae? 11:36.250 --> 11:39.042 Ke maqephe a ka bang 70. 11:39.042 --> 11:41.751 Hoo ke feela sephetho sa tlhaloso ea rona e qaqileng. 11:41.751 --> 11:47.192 Re hlahlobile ka hloko maqephe a likonteraka a likete, tšenyo ea liente, kahoo 11:47.192 --> 11:51.125 likonteraka le BioNTech le tse ling li ile tsa raloa. 11:51.125 --> 11:58.167 Ho nkile mosebetsi oa khoeli. Mme joalokaha ke boletse, ena ke tokomane e e-so be teng. 11:58.167 --> 12:05.690 Mme re etsetsa bona ba sebetsanang le dinyewe tsa tshenyo e bakwang ke ente sena se fumanehang. Empa feela haeba ho ka pakoa. 12:05.690 --> 12:09.792 Re hloka dinomoro tsa ditshupiso, re hloka 'muelli wa molao, mme ka mora moo re tla etsa hore sena se fumanehe mahala. 12:09.792 --> 12:14.876 Kahoo ntlheng ena, tshenyo ya ente e le tlolo ya ditokelo tsa botho. 12:14.876 --> 12:19.626 E, hantle-ntle. Ke tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho, kamoo re bonang kateng. 12:19.626 --> 12:25.542 Boradipolotiki ba tshepisitse kgafetsa ho sebetsana le taba ena. Empa ha ho letho le etsahetseng. 12:25.542 --> 12:30.709 Sena se bolela hore re tlameha ho leka ho fumana tlhaloso ka mekhoa ea molao. 12:30.709 --> 12:37.511 Borasaense ba qetile nako e telele ba leka ho ngola sena fatshe, empa le bona ba khetholloa phatlalatsa, ho ka rialo, 12:37.511 --> 12:44.083 e le hore batho ba se ke ba lumela seo borasaense ba se buang haeba se sa lumellane le leano la mmuso. 12:44.083 --> 12:50.542 Kahoo re na le monyetla oa ho ka hlola nyeoe ea rona ka lekhotleng haeba re nepile. 12:50.542 --> 12:58.467 Ho lokile haholo. Kahoo, tabeng ena, ho bile le tlolo ea litokelo tsa botho, haholo-holo tokelo ea motheo ea 12:58.467 --> 13:05.918 botšepehi ba 'mele, e ileng ea felisoa ka katleho ke ente ena le tšenyo e bakiloeng ke eona. 13:05.918 --> 13:09.711 Sena se mabapi le tshenyo ya ente le ditaba tsa maske. 13:09.711 --> 13:15.060 Jwalokaha re boetse re bone nyeoeng ya Hamburg e amang Walter Weber, setsebi sa lekgotla, Ngaka Ondruschka, 13:15.060 --> 13:21.000 Moprofesa Ngaka Benjamin Ondruschka, o fumane hore bopaki bo bobebe feela ba hore dimaskhu di a thusa. 13:21.000 --> 13:25.918 Mme kgahlanong le vaerase e kotsi ka ho fetisisa ho feta tsohle, bopaki bo haella. 13:25.918 --> 13:30.709 Leha ho le jwalo, Walter Weber o ahlolelwa selemo se le seng le dikgwedi tse leshome tjhankaneng. 13:30.709 --> 13:32.792 E, le tšoso hodima moo. 13:32.792 --> 13:33.250 Tsohle tseo. 13:33.250 --> 13:35.788 Le ho senya lebitso phatlalatsa. Ha e re: 13:35.788 --> 13:41.246 Seriti sa motho ha se na ho tlolwa. Empa seriti sa hae se ile sa tlolwa haholo. 13:41.246 --> 13:45.085 Mme e ne e se eena feela. Ho ne ho e-na le lingaka tse ngata tse neng li nahana ka tsela e tšoanang. 13:45.085 --> 13:47.292 Ba amohilwe mekgwa ya ho iphedisa. 13:47.292 --> 13:53.042 Ha o sa dumellwa ho sebetsa. Laesense ya hao ya ho sebetsa bongakeng e hlakotswe. 13:53.042 --> 13:57.639 Letseno ke lefela. Re boetse re na le mohlala moo mosali a futsanehileng mme jwale a 13:57.639 --> 14:00.292 tlamehang ho itshetleha ka thuso ya baahisani. 14:00.292 --> 14:09.294 Ka mantsoe a mang, boteng ba batho ba sa hlahiseng maikutlo a lumellanang le lipolotiki, ba tshehetsang kano ya bona 14:09.294 --> 14:17.125 ya Hippocratic mme ba sa eme le maikutlo le ditlhoko tsa boradipolotiki, tseo e seng tse thehilweng bopaking. 14:17.125 --> 14:20.542 Rea tseba hore boradipolotiki ba entse qeto ea sepolotiki. 14:20.542 --> 14:24.542 Mabapi le ntlha ena, le diqeto tsa makgotla a ditsheko ha di thehilwe bopaking. 14:24.542 --> 14:32.825 Kahoo, o bolela hore hona joale, ka lebaka la melaoana ena ea RKI, ke hore, melaoana e tsoang Setsing sa Robert Koch, e pakang 14:32.825 --> 14:39.333 hore ho ne ho se na tlhokahalo ea mehato ea coronavirus, mohlala, hore ho ne ho se na tlhokahalo ea 14:39.333 --> 14:42.792 ho entoa, hore ho ne ho se na tšireletso ea 'nete. 14:42.792 --> 14:48.274 Ba ne ba tseba seo, le hore ho ne ho se na tlhokahalo, empa leha ho le jwalo e ile ya phethahatswa. Kahoo 14:48.274 --> 14:51.500 mokgwa ona o thehilweng bopaking o ne o le siyo ho hang. 14:51.500 --> 14:55.500 E, ntlheng ena le rona ha re ka lebella diqeto tsa lekgotla la ditsheko tse thehilweng bopaking. 14:55.500 --> 14:59.209 Seo ke tsa lipolotiki. Mme kahlolo le eona e fetoha ea lipolotiki ka bo eona. 14:59.209 --> 15:02.306 E, ke utlwisisa hantle haholo. Ke utlwisisa hantle haholo. 15:02.306 --> 15:06.083 Jwale re se re hlahlobile diketsahalo tse mmalwa. 15:06.083 --> 15:11.500 Na o na le mehlala e meng hape lethathamong la lihlahisoa tsa hao? 15:11.500 --> 15:14.792 E, ehlile re boetse re na le mehlala e tsoang Hungary le Poland. 15:14.792 --> 15:16.584 Le rona re ameha re le basireletsi ba ditokelo tsa botho. 15:16.584 --> 15:17.918 Na le uena u ameha? 15:17.918 --> 15:26.709 E, ruri. Ha re be le bofetoheli ha re pepesa lintho tse etsoang ke ba boholong, boradipolotiki le ba boahloli. 15:26.709 --> 15:35.459 Ke mosebetsi oa rona ho ngola sena fatše le ho se phatlalatsa haeba ho se na tsela e 'ngoe ea ho sebetsana le taba ena. 15:35.459 --> 15:43.811 Joale, batho ba heno, ba buellang ditokelo tsa botho, ba buellang tshekatsheko ya ditokelo tsa botho, ba 15:43.811 --> 15:49.375 emelang batho, le bona ba hlaselwa ke ba boholong, ke mmuso? 15:49.375 --> 15:52.542 E, ho hlakile haholo. Mohlomong nka supa seo. 15:52.542 --> 15:54.751 E, ka thabo, ka thabo. Ho thahasellisa haholo. 15:54.751 --> 16:00.918 Mohlala, re na le mothehi oa mokhatlo, Udo Leibmann, Mojeremane ea lulang Poland. 16:00.918 --> 16:08.542 O ile a hlaselwa hampe haholo, a batla a bolawa, a hlokofatswa habedi, jwalo-jwalo. 16:08.542 --> 16:09.542 A hlokofatsoa ke mang? 16:09.542 --> 16:13.217 Naheng ea Poland, mohlala, ke mapolesa. 16:13.217 --> 16:20.356 O ile a hlaselwa hampe haholo hoo a ileng a batla a hlokahetsa. Ehlile, o ntse a tswela pele ho sebetsa mme o hana ho tshoswa. 16:20.356 --> 16:24.897 Mme, ehlile, e mong wa batho ba hloahloa ka ho fetisisa bao re nang le bona ditabeng tsa ditokelo tsa botho, 16:24.897 --> 16:27.751 bonyane naheng ya Jeremane, haeba e se Europe kaofela. 16:27.751 --> 16:30.834 Ehlile, o hlaselwa ka matla a maholo e le hore a feliswe. 16:30.834 --> 16:37.292 Kamorao ho ts'ebetso e sa atlehang ea lekhotla, o ne a lokela ho kenngoa sepetlele sa mafu a kelello. 16:37.292 --> 16:46.914 Ke tlameha ho bolela hore 'muelli oa rona oa molao, ea ikarabellang bakeng sa makhotla a machaba, o na le laesense moo, 16:46.914 --> 16:53.545 kahoo Attila Monostory oa Hungary le 'na re ile ra tsamaea 'moho ho ea kopanong ea 16:53.545 --> 16:57.125 bongaka ba kelello Poland ho tšehetsa Udo Leibmann. 16:57.125 --> 17:02.195 Re atlehile. Ha ba a ka ba atleha ho mo kenya sepetleleng sa ba kulang kelellong. 17:02.195 --> 17:05.999 O ntse a tsoela pele ho sebetsa. Ho ka buuoa se tšoanang ka Attila Monostory. 17:05.999 --> 17:08.500 Nka kopa ho kena lipakeng hape ka bokhutšoanyane? 17:08.500 --> 17:14.334 Monghadi Leibmann o entse eng naheng ya Poland hoo a ileng a qetella a le ka lekgotleng la dinyewe teng, kapa o entse eng? 17:14.334 --> 17:18.083 O ne a entse maikutlo a sa rateheng ka ntoa ea Ukraine. 17:18.083 --> 17:19.125 Mme hoo ke tlolo ya molao? 17:19.125 --> 17:25.459 Hoo ke tlolo ea molao naheng ea Poland. U ka e toloka ka tsela efe kapa efe eo u e batlang, 'me o ile a isoa nyeoeng. 17:25.459 --> 17:33.619 Ha re bone eka ho hlahisoa litaba tsa bohlokoa tsa sebele, empa ho e-na le hoo li kopanngoa hammoho, li fetoloa 17:33.619 --> 17:38.250 tlhaselo khahlanong le motho, ebe li tlisoa ka pel'a lekhotla. 17:38.250 --> 17:43.612 Mme haeba ha o na mekgwa ya dinyewe tsa lekgotla jwalo ka ha re e tseba ho tswa nakong e fetileng, empa ho ena le hoo ofisi ya 17:43.612 --> 17:47.996 mochochisi wa setjhaba kapa makgotla a dinyewe a le tlasa tshusumetso ya dipolotiki – seo re na le sona 17:47.996 --> 17:52.959 mona Jeremane le hona ka diofisi tsa bochochisi ba setjhaba, tse tlasa tshusumetso ya dipolotiki. 17:52.959 --> 17:54.755 Mochochisi oa sechaba ha a hlile a ke ke a itšireletsa. 17:54.755 --> 17:57.626 A ka kgona, empa ka nako eo mosebetsi wa hae o ne o tla be o fedile. 17:57.626 --> 18:03.792 Kahoo, ho itšetleha hona ho boetse ho teng Poland, ebe ho etsahala ntho e kang ena. 18:03.792 --> 18:07.345 Mme haeba o sa etse kgatelopele nyeoeng ya lekgotla la ditshebeletso, e leng kamoo ho neng ho le 18:07.345 --> 18:09.792 kateng, jwale o ipheteletsa ho ngaka ya mafu a kelello. 18:09.792 --> 18:17.334 Ao. Ena e re, ho lokile, monna enoa o na le, ha re re, mokhoa o sa tloaelehang, re tlameha ho mo koalla. 18:17.334 --> 18:22.040 Ho lokile. Re ne re entse peheletso ea kopano le ngaka ea mafu a kelello, eaba re kena ka 18:22.040 --> 18:24.500 moahong moo liteko tsena li etsahalang teng. 18:24.500 --> 18:31.500 Jwalokaha ke boletse, nna le Attila re ile ra hlaha mmoho, mmoho le moemedi wa boralitaba, mme ka mora moo ra e phethola. 18:31.500 --> 18:39.533 Hoo ho utlwahala jwaloka matsatsi a lefifi a Soviet Union, ha bahanyetsi ba ne ba tjhantjhwa, akere? Ba ne 18:39.533 --> 18:43.667 ba boetse ba kwalellwa mafapheng a bakuli ba kelello. 18:43.667 --> 18:47.167 Mafapheng a bakuli ba kelello, ke sona se mano ka hona. 18:47.167 --> 18:49.999 Ha o fanye motho leha e le ofe. Setopo re se beha kae? 18:49.999 --> 18:52.959 Ho na le mekgwa e fapaneng ya ho lahla batho. 18:52.959 --> 18:55.083 Ehlile, motho ha a lokela ho bolaea mang kapa mang. 18:55.083 --> 18:59.050 Empa ehlile ho bonolo ho tlosa motho ka ho mo isa sepetleleng sa ba kulang kelellong, ebe o ile a 18:59.050 --> 19:01.042 nyamela a lebaloe. Ha a shoa, ha ho na ea hlokomelang. 19:01.042 --> 19:01.459 Hoa thahasellisa. 19:01.459 --> 19:03.792 Ba lekile seo le ho Attila naheng ea Hungary hape. 19:03.792 --> 19:06.375 Hoo e ne e le eng? Ho ne ho etsahalang? 19:06.375 --> 19:13.090 O ile a isa batšoasi ba lichelete lekhotleng mme a sireletsa batho ba bangata ba neng e le mahlatsipa a tsa 19:13.090 --> 19:17.334 lichelete, e leng ntho eo mmuso o sa kang oa e rata ho hang. 19:17.334 --> 19:24.068 O pepentse bobodu le dintho tse jwalo, mme ka hoo ba ile ba tlameha ho mo tlosa, kahoo ba ile ba mo qosa ka mathata a 19:24.068 --> 19:28.549 kelello mme ba leka ho mo kenya lefapheng la bakuli ba kelello. 19:28.549 --> 19:34.459 Re na le mafu har'a bafani ba tokoloho ea botho. 19:34.459 --> 19:38.876 Sena se tiisitsoe ke tshebeletso ya mahlale. 19:38.876 --> 19:45.603 Ka 2023, lipalo tsa 2021 li ne li se li fumaneha. Ke lumela hore batho ba 358, e leng baitseki ba 19:45.603 --> 19:50.292 litokelo tsa botho, ba ile ba bolaoa ka 2021 feela. 19:50.292 --> 19:56.416 Mme ka mekgatlo e mmalwa e teng, motho a ka nahana hore palo e hodimo haholo, ntle le tlhokofatso le dintho tse 19:56.416 --> 20:02.709 ding, ho kenngwa tjhankaneng, ho amohuwa mehlodi ya boiphediso, tsohle di tsamaya ka mokgwa o tshwanang. 20:02.709 --> 20:07.500 Mme sena le sona se tlalehilwe ke Paramente ya Yuropa. 20:07.500 --> 20:11.250 Ho lokile. Mme na o kgonne ho ntsha mosebetsimmoho le wena ya Hungary hape? 20:11.250 --> 20:12.959 E, le rona re kgonne ho mo ntša matla. 20:12.959 --> 20:18.125 O lokolohile kajeno mme a ka tsamaya hape, a ka kgutlela mosebetsing. 20:18.125 --> 20:25.417 Hantle. Empa Jeremane ho fapane le Hungary le Poland. Ba ntse ba lokolohile, ba ntse ba phaphametse. 20:25.417 --> 20:27.459 Re hlokomedisitsoe, ehlile. 20:27.459 --> 20:32.876 Sa pele, ke tlameha ho bolela hore ka tlhaho le rona re hloka temoho har'a sechaba! 20:32.876 --> 20:42.334 Ha re le bang, mme jwalo ka tabeng ena, re thusana ka katleho, ha re ka ke ra tshepa seo. 20:42.334 --> 20:48.584 Le nna ke hlasetsoe. Ba lekile ho... joalokaha u bona, ke lebetse hlooho ka ho feletseng. 20:48.584 --> 20:50.542 Tšoarelo, e. 20:50.542 --> 20:53.083 Ke ka lebaka leo ke leng mona. 20:53.083 --> 20:55.834 Le bona ba lekile ho etsa hore ke phatlalatswe semolaong e le motho ya sa kgoneng ho laola ditaba tsa hae. 20:55.834 --> 20:56.500 Ruri? 20:56.500 --> 20:57.209 E. Mme ebe o nka tsohle ho nna. 20:57.209 --> 20:58.999 Ha ho kgolwehe. 20:58.999 --> 21:01.241 Ebe o hlorisoa. Ke bitselitsoe ho hlaha ka lekhotleng. 21:01.241 --> 21:03.792 Ba ile ba tla le haeso mme ba leka ho kena. 21:03.792 --> 21:06.568 Batho ha ba eso mpone. Ha ba eso mpone bophelong bohle ba bona. 21:06.568 --> 21:12.690 Empa ba batla ho nka bokhoni ba ka ba molao hobane feela ke tsofetse kapa ntho e joalo. 21:12.690 --> 21:17.083 Ha ke a ka ka ya kopanong, empa ke ile ka fumana keletso e babatsehang hanghang. 21:17.083 --> 21:23.000 Re tseba ka maqiti a litšila, ke tlameha ho bua 'nete ka seo, ha ke nahane letho le leng leo nka le buang. 21:23.000 --> 21:28.999 Mme ka potlako ra bitsa babuelli ba rona ba molao ba Jeremane bakeng sa keletso e potlakileng. 21:28.999 --> 21:34.586 Beate Bahner o nkemetse mme a atleha ho lokisa dintho hore ke se ke ka qetella ke le lefapheng la bakuli ba 21:34.586 --> 21:37.999 kelello. Ho seng jwalo, nkabe ke se ke le mona le lona kajeno. 21:37.999 --> 21:42.641 Hoo ho babatseha. Empa o ho hlalosa joang? 21:42.641 --> 21:56.167 Ho ka etsahala joang hore demokerasing e babatsehang ya Jeremane, makgotla a dinyewe a sebetse kgahlanong le batho? 21:56.167 --> 22:03.719 Kapa ha re e behe tjena: ho sebetsa kgahlanong le ba pepesang diphiri ba batlang ho pepesa ho se tsitsane e 22:03.719 --> 22:10.626 le ho lokisa tshebediso e mpe ya matla? Hoo ho etsahala jwang? Hoo ho ka etsahala jwang? 22:10.626 --> 22:16.459 Ehlile, ha e na ho phatlalatsoa ka sebopeho sena ke ba boholong ba ikarabellang bakeng sa sena. 22:16.459 --> 22:22.375 Ka nako e 'ngoe, mona le mane re khona ho fumana tlhahisoleseding eo ha e le hantle e sa reretsoang rona. 22:22.375 --> 22:23.042 Ho lokile, seo e ka ba eng? 22:23.042 --> 22:25.999 Ke tlile le mohlala oa sena. 22:25.999 --> 22:26.876 A, ho a khahla. 22:26.876 --> 22:30.083 Mohlomong re ka bala sena mona. 22:30.083 --> 22:30.959 Nka sheba? 22:30.959 --> 22:33.834 Seo se tswa Rhineland-Palatinate le Saarland. 22:33.834 --> 22:41.645 Oho. E reng? "Rhineland-Palatinate le Saarland, lenaneo le kopanetsoeng la koetliso la 22:41.645 --> 22:47.178 makhotla a Rhineland-Palatinate le Saarland." 22:47.178 --> 22:54.212 Baahi ba Reich, bahlolohi ba coronavirus, mehopolo ea merero ea sephiri le balateli ba bona e le phephetso 22:54.212 --> 22:57.959 le kotsi tsamaisong ea toka. Hoo ho feteletse haholo. 22:57.959 --> 22:58.918 E. 22:58.918 --> 22:59.918 Kahoo, sena se lutliselitsoe ho bona. 22:59.918 --> 23:02.959 E. Ka nako e 'ngoe re fumana lintho tse nepahetseng. 23:02.959 --> 23:06.000 Ka nako e 'ngoe re ka nka karolo hape mananeong a itseng a koetliso. 23:06.000 --> 23:08.918 Re thabile haholo ha re fumana memo e jwalo ka phoso. 23:08.918 --> 23:14.062 Le rona re na le tsebo e batlang e lekane, empa ha re so fumane phatlalatso ho fihlela jwale, ke ka lebaka leo re lebohang 23:14.062 --> 23:19.751 Kla.TV haholo hore e re nolofalletsa ho tlaleha kajeno ka moo re sebetsang kateng le hore le rona re etsa mosebetsi o tebileng. 23:19.751 --> 23:27.689 Seo se bolela hore, ha e le hantle, seo re sa tsoa se qolla, batho bao, ka lehlakoreng la ka, hona joale ba sebetsanang le 23:27.689 --> 23:35.432 tšenyo ea ente tsamaisong ea bophelo bo botle, 'me joale esita le ka liteko tsa limaske – ba oela feela tlas'a sehlopha 23:35.432 --> 23:42.584 sa bahlōlisani ba Corona 'me ka hona ke phephetso, kotsi tsamaisong ea toka. Mme ke yona taba ya kwetliso? 23:42.584 --> 23:43.083 E. 23:43.083 --> 23:48.999 Ha ho makatse hore batho ba kang wena ba tshwarwa jwalo ka dira, na ha ho jwalo? 23:48.999 --> 23:50.655 E. Mme ebe re lwana hore re pholohe. 23:50.655 --> 23:54.125 Ho thusa batho bao re sa ba tsebeng le hanyenyane. 23:54.125 --> 24:01.250 Mme seo se bolela hore re lebelletse hore setjhaba se itlhokomele ditokelo tsa sona tsa botho pele. 24:01.250 --> 24:03.876 Ha re sa pheleng mehleng ea Adenauer le Helmut Schmidt. 24:03.876 --> 24:08.927 Rea hlokomela bohlokoa ba taba ena mme re kgothaletsa batho ho nka boikarabelo ba ditokelo tsa 24:08.927 --> 24:12.334 bona tsa botho, ba se ke ba itshetleha ho ba bang. 24:12.334 --> 24:17.709 Re thusa ba hlokang thuso, ba sa kgoneng ho ithusa. 24:17.709 --> 24:23.999 Ebe re fihla moo, mme hape re beha kotsing mehlodi ya rona ya boiphediso, maphelo a rona, ho thusa batho. 24:23.999 --> 24:29.224 E, ho lokile haholo. Ho lokile haholo. Kahoo, feela ka moqoqo ona o mokhutšoanyane oo re bileng le 24:29.224 --> 24:32.792 oona, ke bona hore o phathahane haholo, na ha ho joalo? 24:32.792 --> 24:35.834 U ka bua jwalo. Ehlile, ha ho bonolo jwalo. 24:35.834 --> 24:41.584 Re ke ke ra botsa motho e mong le e mong feela: Na u ka rata ho ikopanya le rona? Rea tseba hore ba bangata ba ka rata... 24:41.584 --> 24:43.667 Empa le ka rata ho ba le basebetsi ba bangata? 24:43.667 --> 24:47.876 E, o ka bua jwalo. Empa eseng ka theko efe kapa efe. 24:47.876 --> 24:54.968 Re ka mpa ra khothaletsa mehato e itseng libakeng tse fapaneng, mohlomong moo motho a nang le thahasello thutong e phahameng, 24:54.968 --> 24:59.459 hore a nke ntho e amanang le litokelo tsa botho le tšireletso. 24:59.459 --> 25:00.334 Na re ka ikopanya le uena moo? 25:00.334 --> 25:03.292 Mang kapa mang ea ka ratang ho hloma sena a ka ikopanya le rona. 25:03.292 --> 25:06.542 Re ka fana ka koetliso le keletso. 25:06.542 --> 25:12.201 Mme haeba re fumana hore motho o na le thahasello ya nnete ya ho nka karolo, re ka boela ra 25:12.201 --> 25:14.999 kopa batho ba selekane sena hore ba kenelle. 25:14.999 --> 25:18.751 Rona ba Komiti ya Melao ya Boitshwaro re tla ba le boikarabelo ba ho tiisa sena. 25:18.751 --> 25:21.000 Mme ba ka sebetsa le United for Freedom. 25:21.000 --> 25:22.999 Hoo ho babatseha. 25:22.999 --> 25:30.834 Seo se re tlisa qetellong ea moqoqo oa rona oa kajeno. 25:30.834 --> 25:36.918 Seo u re boleletseng sona ho tswa phihlelong ya hao e sebetsang se ne se ruta haholo. 25:36.918 --> 25:42.564 Mme re tla bontsha moo mang kapa mang ya nang le thahasello mme a ka rata ho nka karolo 25:42.564 --> 25:45.709 le ho re tshehetsa a ka ikopanyang le rona. 25:45.709 --> 25:48.751 Ke leboha haholo ka moqoqo o monate, Monghadi Hummitzsch. 25:48.751 --> 25:57.626 Re le lakaletsa matla a maholo le tiisetso ho sehlopha sa lona kaofela, ha le ntse le phetha mesebetsi ea lona. 25:57.626 --> 25:58.667 Kea leboha haholo. 25:58.667 --> 26:01.584 Ke nahana hore seo se re atametsa haufi le sechaba. 26:01.584 --> 26:09.459 Le ka bona hore ha re disenyi, empa re batla ho thusa batho ka nnete. Ke mosebetsi wa rona, mme ha se letho le fetang moo. 26:09.459 --> 26:11.375 Ho babatseha. 26:11.375 --> 26:12.083 Kea leboha. 26:12.083 --> 26:12.626 Ke kamoo ho leng kateng.