WEBVTT 00:00.192 --> 00:06.114 Patrik Baab – setsebi sa dipolotiki le moqolotsi wa ditaba – o sebeditse bakeng sa dikhamphani tsa phatlalatso tsa setjhaba 00:06.114 --> 00:12.980 ka dilemo tse ngata mme o ne a le haufi haholo le nnete ya ntwa botjhabela ba Ukraine, Afghanistan le dibakeng tse ding. 00:12.980 --> 00:16.972 Ka lehwetla la 2023, hara dibuka tse ding tse ngata, ho ile ha hatiswa "Auf beiden Seiten der Front – 00:16.972 --> 00:22.122 Meine Reisen in die Ukraine" (Ka mahlakoreng a mabedi a ntoa – Maeto a ka ho ya Ukraine). 00:22.122 --> 00:24.560 Tsoela pele he – ea ntoeng! 00:24.560 --> 00:29.033 Ka mantsoe ana a qholotsang, Patrik Baab o ikemiselitse ho etsa hore mocha ea lilemo li 16 a 00:29.033 --> 00:31.872 nahane thothokisoeng ea hae e amang maikutlo. 00:31.872 --> 00:34.643 Baab ke motho ea tsebang seo a se ngolang. 00:34.643 --> 00:41.933 Theo, kamoo moshanyana enoa ea lilemo li 16 a bitsoang kateng, ke mocha ea tloaelehileng ea nkile qeto ea ho kena sesoleng. 00:41.933 --> 00:47.200 Ka hona, o emetse ba bang ba dilemo tsa hae ba ka ratang ho nka kgato ena. 00:47.200 --> 00:52.406 Phoso e bolaeang: hoo e ka bang kaofela ha tsona li na le litebello tsa bohata. 00:52.406 --> 00:56.316 Ba ile ba thetswa habobebe ke maqheka a Bundeswehr a ho hira. 00:56.316 --> 01:02.046 Ba sebedisa ka bohlale lenyora la batjha la maiphihlelo a matjha le tjantjello ya bona ya thekenoloji 01:02.046 --> 01:05.467 ho ba kgothalletsa ho phehella mosebetsi sesoleng. 01:05.467 --> 01:10.819 Ho tlatselletsa ho sena ke phatlalatso e hlanyang ea ntoa, e sa emeng le likolong. 01:10.819 --> 01:12.479 Sena sohle se beha litholoana. 01:12.479 --> 01:16.737 Theo o batla ho etsa ho hong bakeng sa khotso le ho sireletsa naha ea habo, joalokaha a 01:16.737 --> 01:19.629 hlaloselitse moqolotsi oa thelevishene Anne Will. 01:19.629 --> 01:24.128 "Kea tseba ka dikotsi," a tiisa lenaneong la hae. 01:24.128 --> 01:26.012 Empa na ho hlile ho jwalo? 01:26.012 --> 01:28.050 Patrik Baab o belaela seo. 01:28.050 --> 01:32.448 Ka sebopeho sa thothokiso, o mo memela hore a etele Donetsk. 01:32.448 --> 01:37.162 Moo, o mo bontša ka sehlōhō le ka ho hlaka litšabeho tsa ntoa. 01:37.162 --> 01:38.827 Molaetsa oa hae o hlakile: 01:38.827 --> 01:46.348 Ntweng efe kapa efe ya sesole, taba ya ha jwale ha se ka ho sireletsa naha ya motho! 01:46.348 --> 01:52.187 Ho e-na le hoo, masole a sebelisoa hampe ke batho ba laolang ba labalabelang matla le phaello. 01:52.187 --> 01:56.962 Bakeng sa ho fihlella lipakane tsa bona, bathusi ba bona ba kenya lehlabathe mahlong a batho. 01:56.962 --> 02:03.266 Ba qholotsa, ba susumetsa batho hore ba loantšane, 'me ka sekhukhu ba itlosa bolutu. 02:03.266 --> 02:09.997 Se salelang batho qetellong ke lefu, timetso, mahlomola le meokho e sa feleng ea masoabi. 02:09.997 --> 02:11.792 Tsamaya he – eya ntweng! 02:11.792 --> 02:17.057 Thothokiso e khothatsang, e rorisa khotso... 02:17.057 --> 02:20.360 O batla ho etsa se hlileng se le bohlokoa? 02:20.360 --> 02:22.016 Joale e etse! 02:22.016 --> 02:24.484 Kena Sesoleng sa Borithane! 02:24.484 --> 02:31.040 O batla ho sireletsa mekgwa ya Bophirimela, tokoloho ya rona, jwalokaha o entse Afghanistan? 02:31.040 --> 02:32.704 Ebe u tsamaya! 02:32.704 --> 02:35.585 Ke moholo. Nke ke ka o sitisa. 02:35.585 --> 02:38.829 O batla ho tseba hore na ntoa e bolela'ng? Tloo! 02:38.829 --> 02:41.664 Eya ntweng! 02:41.664 --> 02:45.210 O batla ho sireletsa naha ea heno? E-ea! 02:45.210 --> 02:54.784 A ba re ho wena hore Marussia a a tla, hore Putin o tla ba monyako wa rona hosane, haeba re sa mo thibele ho kena Donbass kajeno! 02:54.784 --> 03:01.285 Dumela seo ba o bolellang sona, hobane ba sa tsebeng letho ba tlameha ho dumela haholo, mme ba sa dumeleng 03:01.285 --> 03:05.294 phatlalatso ya rona ba etsa mosebetsi wa dira tsa rona! 03:05.294 --> 03:07.507 Iketle ho hloea Marussia! 03:07.507 --> 03:10.334 Tsamaya! Koala mahlo a hao mme o iteke! 03:10.334 --> 03:17.146 Eya moo mobu o motsho o seng o kolobile ka madi a makgolo a dikete a Maukraine le Marussia. 03:17.146 --> 03:18.552 Eya! 03:18.552 --> 03:23.845 Le mose ho setopo sa hao ho tla mela joang. 03:23.845 --> 03:29.183 Tloha le 'na Donetsk, moo le bana ba ithutang hore na ntoa e bolela'ng, 03:29.183 --> 03:37.675 moo ntoa ena e sa qalang ka 2022, empa e se e qalile ka 2014, Maidaneng, 03:37.675 --> 03:46.720 moo ntoa ena e qalileng ka lipolao tse entsoeng ke Right Sector, seo u sa se utloeng sekolong, eseng univesithing. 03:46.720 --> 03:53.656 Tloha le 'na toropong, moo bohle ba tsebang hore na ho phela sebakeng sa lefu ho bolela'ng. 03:53.656 --> 04:00.964 Moo bana ba sekolo ba ipatang ka tlas'a lideseke tsa bona ha tšepe ea khefu e lla, hobane ba tšaba temoso e latelang ea bomo, 04:00.964 --> 04:09.280 mme moo, bosiu, litorong tsa bona, ba bona lefu le etsa mosebetsi wa lona bophelo bohle. 04:09.280 --> 04:13.463 Tloo le 'na Mariupol, moo ho ngotsoeng ka pente e tšoeu leboteng la kamore e ka tlas'a 04:13.463 --> 04:16.780 ntlo: Sdez Detje! Bana ba ntse ba phela mona! 04:16.780 --> 04:18.820 Empa kamore ea polokelo e tjhele. 04:18.820 --> 04:21.603 Ha ho sa na motho ea lulang mona. 04:21.603 --> 04:26.426 Haeba o batla ho tseba hore na ntwa e bolelang, tloo! 04:26.426 --> 04:30.920 Ha o batla ho tla le nna moleng wa kgokahano, tloo! 04:30.920 --> 04:35.890 Tloo, , haeba o batla ho sheba lefeelleng ka mekoti ea lifensetere tse tukileng, 04:35.890 --> 04:41.056 ha o sa kgone ho rota moseleng hobane ho na le meepo ya dirurubele moo, 04:41.056 --> 04:44.032 ha o sa hlatsoe matsatsi a mangata, 04:44.032 --> 04:50.825 ha karolo ea ho qetela ea likokoane e se e jeiloe 'me ho se letho le seletseng ho jeoa , 04:50.825 --> 04:55.739 ha o latswa seretse se mafura sa tsamaiso ya ho futhumatsa ka dikamoreng tse mongobo le 04:55.739 --> 04:58.733 batho ba bang ba ditshila le ba ferekaneng , 04:58.733 --> 05:01.577 haeba o na le metsi a ditshila feela a ho nwa, 05:01.577 --> 05:07.232 haeba o tshwarwa ke sewa ka lebaka la metsi ana a ditshila, a tshilafetseng, 05:07.232 --> 05:14.586 ha o hloka ho hlatsa hodima leru la lerata le ha o sa fumane joang ba ho itlhatswa ka lona, 05:14.586 --> 05:21.700 haeba o ntse o apara marukgwe a ka hare a tshwanang ka letsatsi la pele, la bobedi, la boraro, la bone, le la 05:21.700 --> 05:26.355 bohlano mme mantle a kgale a omileng a bokellana ho ona, 05:26.355 --> 05:32.711 ha o paqame mobung bosiu o apere baki ea hau ea sesole e kolobileng, le ha o hatseloa ke serame mariha o le holim'a bethe 05:32.711 --> 05:36.320 e nyenyane sebakeng sa tšireletso se batang jwaloka leqhoa, 05:36.320 --> 05:40.246 ha lintsi le litoeba li tlala junifomo ea hau e nkhang hampe, 05:40.246 --> 05:46.940 ha likokoanyana tse ngata-ngata li ja letlalo la hao, ha o tshwarwa ke makhopho, 05:46.940 --> 05:52.784 Ha seretse se batang, se mong se o emeng ho sona ho fihla maqaqailaneng letsatsi le letsatsi se fetola 05:52.784 --> 05:58.818 letlalo la maoto a hao ho ba le mmala o moputsoa-mohloa 'me butle-butle se etsa hore maoto a hao a bola, 05:58.818 --> 06:04.733 ha maoto a maphata a tletseng madi a kgaotsweng a le qubung mobung, 06:04.733 --> 06:07.488 ha likhoto li hlohlona litopo 06:07.488 --> 06:12.900 mme makgwaba a ja mahlo le mala a bafu , 06:12.900 --> 06:15.380 ha o utlwa ho leletsa ha mapolesa, 06:15.380 --> 06:22.240 ha ba o lelekisa ka sethunya se butsoeng, monoana o le holim'a konopo ea ho thunya, holimo ka litepisi le kantle ho mosele o 06:22.240 --> 06:26.720 kena mollo oa sethunya sa mochini, o kena masimong a liqhomane, 06:26.720 --> 06:30.960 ha li-drone li fofa li tla ho wena ka bongata, 06:30.960 --> 06:36.550 Ha o sa khone ho robala bosiu hobane ba lemetseng ba tshwarehile ka terateng e nang le 06:36.550 --> 06:40.440 dithaba mme ba bobola ba bile ba lla bo-m'a bona, 06:40.440 --> 06:49.175 Ha o ntse o itlhophora holim'a lesela le ditshila sepetlele mme leoto la hao le a hlohlona mme o batla ho le hohla, 06:49.175 --> 06:53.260 empa ha ho sa na leoto hobane leoto la hao le kgaotswe, 06:53.260 --> 06:59.260 ha bohloko ba sethotsela feela bo o hopotsa hore o kile wa ba le leoto , moo jwale ho setseng feela 06:59.260 --> 07:03.404 sekoti se phuthetsweng ka seile se kolobileng madi, 07:03.404 --> 07:10.353 ha dimisaele di hokela fonong ya hao mme di fihla sepheong sa tsona ka geometry e batang, 07:10.353 --> 07:15.318 ha sohle se setseng ka seaparo sa hao sa tšireletso e le tšepe e qhibilihisitsoeng, ha u cha 07:15.318 --> 07:18.679 ka bolo ea mollo mochesong oa likhato tse 1,400, 07:18.679 --> 07:21.216 joale o tseba hore na ntoa e bolela'ng. 07:21.216 --> 07:22.920 Kahoo tsamaya! 07:22.920 --> 07:26.829 Fumana tatso eo ea tokoloho le boithabiso! 07:26.829 --> 07:29.000 Eya o be mohale! 07:29.000 --> 07:33.780 Eya, ha matla le mecha ea litaba li khomarelana joaloka sekhomaretsi. 07:33.780 --> 07:40.480 Nehela bophelo ba hao bakeng sa ba o romelang moo, empa u se ke ua ea moo ka bouena! 07:40.480 --> 07:43.887 Se ikutloe o qabolohile! Tsamaya! 07:43.887 --> 07:49.413 E-ea lefung la hau bakeng sa ba fanang ka lipuo tse hohelang matšoele mananeong a lipuisano thelevisheneng, ba lulang ka morao 07:49.413 --> 07:54.457 ho mela ea ntoa kapa likhohlong tsa bona 'me ba beha bana ba bona sefofaneng sa ho qetela sa ho ea mose ho maoatle, 07:54.457 --> 07:58.345 kaha ke batšehetsi ba tieo ba ho tšela Leoatle la Atlantic. 07:58.345 --> 08:04.956 Tsamaya! Ha o wela, mmaraka wa diabo o tla nyoloha! Kahoo tsamaya! 08:04.956 --> 08:11.016 Empa pele ba shebe, ba dutse ka mora ditafole tsa bona tsa mosebetsi ofising tsa bona tsa 08:11.016 --> 08:14.976 bohlophisi, ba hlohla dikopi tsa bona tsa kofi. 08:14.976 --> 08:20.636 ba molomo ba neng ba sa romele bana ba bona ntoeng, ba shebisise hantle, 08:20.636 --> 08:25.540 Bahahlauli le baferefetsi ba papali ea likhetla mmusong ba batlang ho isa Taurus, empa ba 08:25.540 --> 08:29.297 itšela metsi ha sethunya se thunya lekhetlo la pele. 08:29.297 --> 08:33.583 Ba shebe, lihlooho tsa lihlomo li phatloha lik'hoko tsa champagne ha ba bang ba ntse ba 08:33.583 --> 08:36.236 tsoa mali ho isa lefung lithanjeng tsa bona. 08:36.236 --> 08:39.179 Shebisisa tsona hantle. 08:39.179 --> 08:42.135 O hloka feela ho sheba sefahleho sa monna enoa.