We are delighted to welcome Stefan Schubert to our interview today.
Mr. Schubert is a former police officer, journalist and recognized security expert and author of various books, including several
bestsellers such as the book The Secret War Against Germany.
His books are based on his previous work as a police officer and deal heavily with the
topics of internal security, crime and migration.
Mr. Schubert, this is the first interview with you on Kla.TV.
Would you like to introduce yourself to our viewers at the beginning and tell us something about your background?
Yes, good afternoon for now. Thank you very much for the invitation.
Yes, you've already said most of it, you're actually a former policeman.
I always had to tell stories at parties, at family celebrations, with friends and then people said you have to
write it down and that's how I actually got into writing.
There have now been twelve books, I think four or five Spiegel bestsellers.
Now, before the Spiegel bestsellers have been manipulated in such a way that someone from the, let's say, free media no longer
manages to get on the bestseller list, that's another issue and I've also built up a YouTube channel within eight months,
I think, Schubert's Lagemeldung, where I'm there every day.
I'd be delighted if everyone came by, left a subscription and wrote something in the comments and ultimately I also regularly
give interviews for other media formats, depending on what's going on and unfortunately
there's a lot going on these days, it has to be said.
It is still said that you have good contacts with the security authorities, the police and the secret services.
How did that develop? Normally, such circles are inaccessible.
Well, of course I came from there myself, I attended training courses and worked in various departments, various authorities,
and the people I started out with then also rose through the ranks and made a career for themselves, and it's also
the case that many people contacted me after the first books.
I then made new contacts, I have also found documents in the mailbox and so on.
So word has gotten around in the security authorities and I'm actually quite well informed.
Yes, that means you have a wide network, so you can also access information that you wouldn't otherwise be able to get.
Indeed, yes, but there is now so much pressure on the authorities and individual police officers to uncover abuses.
So it's also becoming increasingly difficult to meet up.
This is no longer possible on the phone either, and hasn't been for some time.
And so outsiders are not even aware of the pressure that is being built up in the authorities to keep their mouths shut
about the failures, to go along with the cover-up by their political superiors. So there is a lot, a lot going on.
Yes, so the topic of cover-ups is where we start.
In 2016, there was an attack by Anis Amri at the Berlin Christmas market with a truck that plowed into the crowd.
The first major Islamist terrorist attack in Germany in the recent past.
You have written a book, Anis Amri and the Federal Government.
And there you write with reference to your research and files that the security authorities were well aware of Anis Amri.
The attack took place under the eyes of a large number of authorities.
And you claim that the perpetrator was given a free hand despite many previous
convictions and was even allowed to escape afterwards.
And then everything was covered up. Those are very strong accusations.
After all, this means that the Federal Government deliberately accepted the death of twelve people and the injury of 70 others.
What evidence do you have for these serious allegations?
Yes, these are indeed very serious accusations.
And I received 20,000 documents from all the authorities.
And I was also able to speak to a terrorist investigator who was directly involved, who drew my attention to precisely that.
Who said we've been trying to arrest Anis Amri for a year and a half. We can't get an arrest warrant.
We had four-eyed conversations with superiors who said leave the man alone, despite serious crimes, despite
stabbings in the drug milieu, despite direct contacts with IS, which was very, very active at the time.
The cell with which Anis Amri, Anis Amri is not a lone perpetrator, but had a large IS network in
Germany, to which Abu Wallah, for example, also belongs.
He is currently in court, he wants to prevent his deportation.
And that was the reason, my thesis, that the secret services, from the Federal Office for the Protection of
the Constitution to the CIA, did everything they could to prevent the police from doing their job.
To arrest this dangerous man, where everyone knew it was not a question of if, but only when he would commit a terrorist attack,
in order to get to the people behind it, because his phone had also been bugged, satellite order to the IS camps in Libya.
And that's exactly what the Americans pulled off with ice-cold precision.
And that is how the attack on Breitscheidplatz came about in the first place.
And why were the intelligence services interested in letting Anis Amri go?
So firstly, of course, the new gold of the secret services, data, data records.
Anis Amri had direct contact with IS terror planners in a Libyan military camp.
And he has, he is within the Islamist scene, he came to Germany via Lampedusa, via Italy, where he
was already in prison as a criminal, as a criminal.
IS people helped and supported him everywhere.
It was a network that they wanted to uncover.
And, of course, direct contact with Libya.
And a short time after the disastrous terrorist attack on the Berlin Christmas market, the Americans bombed Anis
Amri's terror camps in Libya with an aircraft carrier convoy from the Mediterranean and killed over 70 IS terrorists.
And a Pentagon spokesman. And this Pentagon spokesman then also said, something that was never widely reported in
the German media, that this military strike was aimed at those behind an attack, a retaliatory strike.
And I have documented all of this in my book.
I have 600, 700 sources on file, American media too.
In other words, a very well-rounded and clear picture has emerged.
And you also say that the CIA was involved?
It is, yes. And it's clear, of course, that this drone program and the program, there's an extra program name for
it, a military operation name, to take out IS in the Libyan camps. And that was largely a CIA program.
Mr. Schubert, just so we're clear about that again.
This means that the US administration has instructed the security authorities not to bother Anis Amri
out of self-interest. Do I understand that correctly?
Yes, of course I don't have the CIA's smoking piston either.
It is not in the documents, although there are 20,000 documents, including secret service documents.
But it's clear that the Americans have wired him up completely, have him under complete surveillance, GPS order.
There is also real-time monitoring of his chat with the IS leader in Libya, with the terror leader, which they
conducted in Arabic. And yet it was translated simultaneously.
You can see what level of monitoring has been applied there, what a high-quality target it is.
And he could have been arrested long ago. After all, he has committed several criminal offenses.
He was even prevented from doing so when it became too hot for him in Germany.
He wanted to flee abroad. He was prevented from leaving the country.
And Anis Amri was then questioned and said that he would now be arrested in order to carry out a deportation.
And he said I want to leave voluntarily now.
You don't need to deport me. I want to go back to the Middle East. And the German government has prevented that.
The German government made sure that one of his accomplices was deported to Morocco overnight after the attack.
There are indications that he was a double agent of the Moroccan secret services and worked for IS.
He was not charged. In my opinion, he should have been brought to court, but was expelled from the Federal
Ministry of the Interior in a cloak-and-dagger operation.
The woman responsible for this was rewarded by Mrs. Merkel with the ambassadorship to
America. That's how high this whole case went.
And for me it is quite clear that the Americans, of course, the Germans are absolutely blind when it comes to Islamist terrorism.
They are 100 percent dependent on the Americans, who eavesdrop on everything and everyone here.
And if the Americans say you won't arrest him, then the German authorities get their
act together and do exactly what is demanded.
Yes, let's come back to the current situation.
Her books bear titles such as Destabilization of Germany, the Loss of Internal and External Security or Civil War is Coming,
the Harbingers of Uprisings and Revolutions in Germany's Cities.
The new federal government has now taken up the cause of restoring order and regaining control of the borders.
Do you think there will be a change for the better under a black-red coalition?
Incidentally, I wrote about the destabilization of Germany in 2016.
At the time, it was said to be alarmist and populist.
And now we see it every day in the news, even though the news conceals a lot.
But people can see for themselves when they walk through their inner cities what has happened in just a few years.
And that's why this book was unfortunately, unfortunately everything happened.
And that was also my motivation to keep going, to wake people up.
And the second part of the question, red-green, actually red-green I say, red-black.
Yes, the slip of the tongue is actually part of the program, because it's like red-green.
The red-black coalition is actually picking up where the traffic light government left off.
These border controls are a show event with no real value.
There is no consistent deportation, not even for offenders, not even for Islamists.
And that is not changing at all. There is no migration turnaround.
The migration turnaround only exists, according to the mainstream media, to keep the population calm
so that they don't vote for an alternative party.
And unfortunately, nothing will change for the better under this government election.
And that means that politicians don't really want to remedy the situation. Are there profiteers in the background?
A lobby that is invisible, that operates outside of this party spectrum?
There are a lot of people who benefit from this. Mass migration has become a huge business model.
Just look at these horrendous rents, which are also collected by social organizations, the Red Cross, Caritas,
AWO with the SPD close to the Workers' Welfare Association.
Real estate entrepreneurs, large American banks, Western Union, who earn billions from the money that is transferred from Germany
and Western Europe, partly from the payment coffers, partly from crime, to the home countries, where it is then
reinforced with high fees and poor exchange rates, the profits.
Plus, of course, all these NGO complexes that are now paid directly by the government, i.e. non-governmental organizations.
So this is a huge business model. And that is also one reason why many, many people have an interest in nothing changing.
Yes, which means that politicians are not really interested in changing things.
There is a show event, they say.
There are many players who make money in the background, such as the banks and all those conglomerates you mentioned, the NGOs.
On the other hand, you can see that the migrants themselves are somehow victims or
playthings of the profiteers in the background.
Their countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have been bombed in the name of democracy.
Then they come here under false promises, perhaps wanting to integrate.
Others are naturally traumatized by the wars.
That sows hatred, that provides the ground for people to become radicalized.
And then on the other hand, there are more and more no-go areas in Germany where not even the police dare to go.
And then people say, yes, we're going to ban knives or increase surveillance of citizens as a
solution. But that doesn't solve the problem at all.
Do you have the impression that there is an agenda here?
There is this motto of High Grade Freemasonry, order out of chaos.
This means involving the population in hardship until they cry out for a strong hand and accept solutions that
would previously have been unthinkable. Is that the case?
Yes, the problem is that we really do have chaos.
We have a lot of diversionary debates to distract from the real issues, just like this knife ban zone.
It's not the knives that are the problem, it's the knifemen who are the problem. That's why this is a diversionary debate.
Someone recently injured someone with a chainsaw.
Then we should soon have no-chainsaw zones.
And it is indeed the case that these conditions, which the politicians themselves have caused, are now
being used to push through ever stricter security laws.
Data retention, cell phone surveillance, even more censorship in social networks, even more control of opinions.
And they are not directed against the criminals or the dangerous individuals, but against the citizens and the media, such
as Compaq, for example, who have denounced these conditions.
And you can see from this that it doesn't happen by chance, but that it's a plan, that
it's an agenda that is being worked through.
And to the detriment of their own country, to the detriment of the population in their own country.
And that is the devastating thing about the situation that we have actually had since 2015
and which is getting worse and worse every year.
Yes, if you say that this is being done on purpose, you will end up with a destabilized Germany.
Does politics have anything to gain from this? I mean, it's becoming increasingly ungovernable.
You hear about it now, they're building big fences around the Bundestag and so on, shielding themselves more and more.
At some point it becomes dangerous for these men and women.
Well, they are well protected. They have armored service limousines, they have armed BKA protection.
They no longer go about their normal lives naturally, they no longer go shopping themselves.
That means they don't even notice. It's a closed-off bubble.
And the AHA moat is now being built over the Reichstag. That's what it's called.
In other words, a kind of armored barrier so that you can't drive there by car.
In fact, they are continuing to bunker down and now the government district is being expanded even further,
even though there are no billions, billions in debt.
Now the Chancellery is being enlarged again for almost a billion euros, although it is already one
of the largest seats of government in the world.
So it really is a policy against your own country and against your own people.
Your last book has a similar title, the secret war against Germany.
And the subtitle is? The country in the cross of global elites.
Who is waging war here? And which elites are meant here?
And by what means is this war being waged?
Yes, this is not just a war, as we had previously imagined.
Party A is fighting party B, but we have a multi-front war.
We have an economic war against Germany, if you look at the Americans.
Another Joe Biden, who, I agree with investigative legend Simon Herschel in America, said that the Joe Biden
administration blew up Nord Stream 2 because they wanted to divide us from Russia because of the cheap Russian gas.
Now we are buying dirty, overpriced LNG gas from America.
This is also a war against Germany, against the energy supply, against the business location.
We have a financial industry like BlackRock, which also spread this climate ideology before they took
a step back from it. It was a business model too.
These same big hedge funds have partly financed climate NGOs to put pressure on the street, on politicians, so that
they have to retool their factories with new machines that the financial industry has already bought into.
So this is a huge, huge redistribution machine, just like Corona, where a lot of money was involved, where money
was taken from the bottom up by the citizens and then distributed to the pharmaceutical industry.
And we actually see this in every area, which is why the title of the book came about.
Yes, it's also called a hybrid war, i.e. a war not waged with conventional weapons.
What goals do you suspect are behind this, apart from the fact that individual players are enriching themselves?
Yes, that is a very strong motive. Profits, namely profits in the billions, power and influence, of course, as well as
your own immunity, that you remain protected from prosecution.
This is also very noticeable in Germany.
In other European countries, in America, there are also politicians, some of whom are serving
multi-year prison sentences for corruption and fraud.
In Germany, not one high-ranking politician is on remand before going to prison.
Even a Habeck, where a public prosecutor's office once dared to investigate him, and we have a public prosecutor's office that is
bound by political instructions and which nevertheless dared to investigate this lèse-majesté offense, which he himself
has already initiated hundreds of times against citizens.
And then the old party front in the Bundestag shot it down, also an absurdity that you protect your own politicians from far too
few prosecutions, while at the same time you always immediately raise your hand for opposition
politicians and then the house searches start.
Yes, and yet you say that it is ultimately political theater that is being played out
to us, that is also part of the distraction.
I think it's important not to lose focus on the, that's why I asked about the elites in the background,
because no matter which topic you look at, it always seems to be the same people pulling the strings.
Yes, you keep coming back to the same strings.
So then there is the political-military complex, as in Ukraine, as now with the American attack on Iran, which
has prevailed, even though Donald Trump promised something completely different before the election.
Of course, you can see that now in the immense armament of NATO, the EU and Germany.
You can see this in the pharma sector with Corona, where we hope that Bobby Kennedy will roll up even more in America.
He hasn't really started yet, in my opinion. Many people were hoping for more.
And yes, it is a perpetual battle of good versus evil, if you want to call it that.
You have said that Trump promised something different than what he then implements.
You can also see it with Friedrich Merz in particular.
After all, even the most important election preliminaries have all been broken within less than half a year.
How long do you think the population will go along with this and keep being led around by the nose,
both on our side and on the other side of the ocean?
For me, Friedrich Merz is the biggest electoral fraudster since the end of the Second World War.
And I think we are now on day 54, 55 with the debt brake, where he lied.
And now that it has come out that he ordered an expert opinion from Udo Di Fabio for, I think, 9,500 euros before the election,
which is supposed to put him in charge of this debt brake with the old Bundestag, where the Greens still had more votes than
the AfD, in order to get it through, everything is prepared.
And then the population in Germany was told that it had happened with the scandal with Selensky in the White House.
But all of this was already agreed before the election, in other words a major electoral fraud.
And if we had a functioning media landscape in Germany, there would have to be a focal
point every day until Friedrich Merz resigns.
And this shows that we also have a natural political problem, but the biggest problem is of course the media
problem, this media power of ARD, ZDF, mainstream media, Spiegel, Axel Springer Verlag.
They decide not to turn this scandal into a scandal.
Instead, they make the umpteenth anti-AfD hanger or the alternative media somehow pick out a headline that they then
scandalize and distract from. And that's the big problem.
And I think that's why the population hasn't yet taken to the streets, because this media power is simply still too strong.
Yes, you said it, these scandals keep coming.
It is a tactic that is used again and again.
This is the typical divide-and-conquer approach that pits groups such as the vaccinated
against the unvaccinated, locals against migrants.
But we don't have to fall into this trap.
Mr. Schubert, I am very grateful that you have given us a share in these confusing developments today, that we can see the threads
and have shed light on the string-pullers in the background.
Let us, dear viewers, spread the word about these important connections so that we can get to the root of the problem
and an enlightened population can hold the powers behind the scenes to account. Mr. Schubert, thank you very much.
Thank you very much for the invitation.