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Re thabetse ho amohela Stefan Schubert puisanong ea rona kajeno.

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Monghadi Schubert ke eo e neng e le lepolesa, moqolotsi wa
ditaba, setsebi se tsebahalang sa tshireletso le mongodi wa

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dibuka tse fapaneng, ho kenyeletsa le tse
rekisitseng haholo tse kang Der geheime Krieg gegen

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Deutschland (Ntwa ya Sephiri Kgahlanong le Jeremane).

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Libuka tsa hae li thehiloe mosebetsing oa hae oa pele
oa ho ba lepolesa, 'me li bua haholo ka litaba tsa

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tšireletso ea kahare, botlokotsebe le phallo ea batho.

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Monghadi Schubert, ena ke puisano ya hao ya pele le Kla.TV.

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Na o ka rata ho its'ebisa ho bashebelli ba
rona le ho ba bolella hanyane ka semelo sa hao?

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E, thapama e monate. Ke leboha haholo ka memo.

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E, o se o boletse boholo ba yona,
haele hantle ke lepolesa la mehleng.

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Kamehla ke ne ke tlameha ho pheta lipale meketeng, likopanong
tsa lelapa, har'a metsoalle, eaba batho ba re, "U lokela

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ho ngola seo," 'me ke kamoo ke ileng ka qala ho ngola kateng.

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Hona joale ho na le libuka tse leshome le
metso e 'meli, ke nahana hore ke tse 'ne kapa tse

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hlano tsa Spiegel tse rekisoang ka ho fetisisa.

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Jwale, pele lenane la dibuka tse rekiswang haholo la Spiegel le
ka qhekelwa ka tsela eo ho seng motho ya ka etsang hore a kene ho

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lona, ha re re, ho tswa mecheng ya phatlalatso e ikemetseng, e
leng taba e nngwe ka ho feletseng, ke boetse ke thehile kanale ya

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YouTube dikgweding tse robedi tse fetileng,
ke nahana, e bitswang Schubert's

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Lagemeldung, moo ke behang dintho letsatsi le letsatsi.

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Nka thaba haholo haeba bohle ba ka feta, ba ingolisa, le ho siea
maikutlo. Qetellong, hape ke fana ka lipuisano khafetsa bakeng sa

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mefuta e meng ea mecha ea litaba, ho latela se
etsahalang. Ka bomalimabe, ho na le lintho tse ngata tse

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etsahalang matsatsing ana, 'me ho lokela ho boleloa.

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Ho boetse ho thwe o na le dikamano tse ntle le ba
boholong ba tshireletso, mapolesa le ditirelo tsa sephiri.

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Seo se ile sa hlahama joang? Ka
tloaelo, mekhatlo e joalo ha e fihlellehe.

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Hantle, karolo e 'ngoe ke hobane le 'na ke tsoa semong seo,
ehlile. Ke ile ka kena lithupelo tsa koetliso 'me ka sebetsa

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mafapheng a fapaneng le mebusong e fapaneng, 'me batho bao ke
qalileng le bona ka nako eo le bona ba ile ba nyoloha maemong 'me

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ba ba le mesebetsi e atlehileng. Hape ke 'nete
hore ka mor'a hore libuka tsa pele li hatisoe,

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ba bangata ba bona ba ile ba ikopanya le 'na.

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Eaba ke iketsetsa batho bao ke ba tsebang ba bacha, mme ke se
ke fumane mangolo a mang ka lebokoseng la mangolo le tse ling.

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Kahoo ho tjena, taba e se e phatlaletse hara ba boholong ba
tšireletso, 'me ka lebaka leo, ke na le tsebo e phethahetseng.

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E, seo se bolela hore o na le marangrang a
pharaletseng, kahoo o ka fumana tlhahisoleseding eo o

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neng o ke ke wa kgona ho e fumana ka tsela e nngwe.

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Ruri, e, empa jwale ho na le kgatello hodima balaodi
le mapolesa ka bomong hore ba senole ditlolo tsa molao.

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Hape ho ntse ho ba thata le ho feta ho kopana.

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Le ka mohala ha ho kgonehe, mme ho
se ho le jwalo ka nako e telele.

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Ka hona, batho ba kantle ha ba na tsebo ho hang ka kgatello e
bokellaneng ka hare ho ba boholong hore ba dule ba kgutsitse ka

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diphoso, le hore ba dumellane le ho pata taba hoo e leng ho
etswang ke ba ba laolang dipolotiking. Ka hona, ho na le dintho

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tse ngata haholo tse fosahetseng ka tsela e tebileng mona.

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Ee, kahoo ha re qaleng ka taba ea ho pata lintho.

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Ka 2016, Anis Amri o ile a hlasela 'marakeng oa
Keresemese oa Berlin, a khanna teraka a e kenya har'a letšoele.

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Tlhaselo ea pele e kholo ea bokhukhuni ba
Maislamo Jeremane nalaneng ea morao tjena.

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U ngotse buka, Anis Amri le Mmuso wa Feterale.

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Mme moo, o bua ka dipatlisiso tsa hao le difaele
tseo o di bokeletseng, o ngola hore ba boholong

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ba tshireletso ba ne ba tseba Anis Amri hantle.

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Tlhaselo e etsahetse tlas'a leihlo
le nchocho la balaoli ba bangata.

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Mme o re ho sa natswe ho ahlolwa ha hae makgetlo a
mangata nakong e fetileng, moetsadibe o ile a fuwa bolokolohi

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bo feletseng mme a ba a dumellwa ho baleha kamora moo.

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Eaba tsohle li koaloa. Ana ke liqoso tse tebileng haholo.

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Hobane seo se bolela hore mmuso wa kopanelo o
amohetse ka boomo mafu a batho ba leshome

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le metso e mmedi le dikotsi tsa ba bang ba 70.

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U na le bopaki bofe bakeng sa liqoso tsena tse tebileng?

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E, ruri, tsena ke liqoso tse tebileng haholo.

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Mme ka fumana ditokomane tse 20,000 ho tswa ho balaodi bohle.

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Mme hape ke ile ka kgona ho bua le mofuputsi wa bokhukhuni ya
neng a ameha ka kotloloho nyeoeng, ya ileng a mpontsha sena.

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O itse re ntse re leka ho tshwara Anis Amri ka
selemo le halofo. Ha re fumane lengolo la ho mo tshwara.

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Re bile le likopano tse 'ne tsa sefahleho le sefahleho le ba
boholong ba ileng ba re, tlohelang monna eo a iketse, ho sa

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tsotellehe litlolo tsa molao tse tebileng, ho sa tsotellehe ho
hlajoa ka thipa mafung a lithethefatsi, le

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ho sa tsotellehe likamano tse tobileng le
IS, e neng e le mafolofolo haholo ka nako eo.

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E ne e le hantle selekane seo Anis Amri a neng a na le sona; Anis
Amri ha se moetsalibe a le mong, empa o ne a na le marangrang a

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maholo a IS Jeremane, a neng a kenyeletsa le Abu Wallah, mohlala.

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Hona jwale o tshehisoeng mahlong mme
o batla ho thibela ho lelekwa ha hae.

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Mme eo e bile lebaka la kgopolo ya ka ya hore ditheo tsa sephiri,
ho tloha Ofising ya Federale ya Tshireletso ya

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Molaotheo ho ya ho CIA, di entse sohle seo di ka se
kgonang ho thibela mapolesa ho etsa mosebetsi wa ona.

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Ho tšoara monna enoa ea kotsi, eo bohle ba neng ba tseba hore o
tla etsa tlhaselo ea bokhukhuni, eseng haeba, empa neng, e le ho

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fihlela batho ba mo laolang, hobane le
fono ea hae e ne e mametsoe, ka taelo ea

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sathelaete likampong tsa IS naheng ea Libya.

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Mme ke sona hantle seo Maamerika a
se entseng, ka sehlōhō se batang.

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Mme ke kamoo tlhaselo ya Breitscheidplatz e qalileng kateng.

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Mme hobaneng ditshebeletso tsa sephiri di ne di na
le thahasello ya ho tlohela Anis Amri a tsamaye?

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Pele ho tsohle, ehlile, khauta e ncha ea
litšebeletso tsa bohlale ke: data le meqoqo ea data.

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Anis Amri o ne a na le kgokahano e tobileng le
baqapi ba bokhukhuni ba IS kampong ya sesole ya Libya.

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Mme o jwalo, o hara sehlopha sa Maislamo, o
fihlile Jeremane a tswa Lampedusa, a feta Italy,

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moo a neng a se a le tjhankaneng e le senokoane.

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Batho ba IS ba ne ba mo thusa le ho mo tshehetsa hohle.

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E ne e le marang-rang ao batho ba neng ba batla ho a senola.

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Mme, ehlile, kgokahano e tobileng le Libya.

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Mme nakoana kamora tlhaselo e bolaeang ya bokgukguni mmarakeng wa
Keresemese wa Berlin, e bile Maamerika a ileng a thunya dikampo

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tsa bokgukguni tsa Anis Amri naheng ya Libya ka
sehlopha sa difofane se tswang Lewatleng la

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Mediterranean, mme ba bolaya dikgukguni tsa IS tse fetang 70.

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Mme mmuelli wa Pentagon le yena o ile a bua jwalo. Mme mmuelli
enwa wa Pentagon o ile a boela a bolela ntho e neng e eso ho ke e

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buisanwe ka yona mecheng ya phatlalatso ya
Jeremane, e leng hore tlhaselo ena ya sesole e ne e

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lebisitswe ho ba ka mora tlhaselo, e le ho iphetetsa.

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Mme ke ngotse sena sohle bukeng ya ka.

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Ke bolokile mehlodi e 600, e 700, ho
kenyeletsa le mecha ya phatlalatso ya Amerika.

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E le hore ho hlahelle setshwantsho se
hlakileng haholo le se sa belaetseng moo.

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Mme hape o re CIA e ne e kenetse?

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E, ho joalo. Mme ho hlakile haholo, ehlile, hore lenaneo lena la
li-drone le lenaneo – le nang le lebitso le

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ikhethileng la ts'ebetso ea sesole – la ho felisa IS likampong
tsa Libya. Mme hoo e ne e le haholo-holo lenaneo la CIA.

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Monghadi Schubert, hore re utlwane hantle.

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Seo se bolela hore mmuso wa US o laetse ba
boholong ba tshireletso hore ba se ke ba tshwenya Anis

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Amri molemong wa bona. Na ke utlwisisa seo hantle?

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Ee, ehlile le nna ha ke na bopaki bo hlakileng bo tsoang ho CIA.

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Ha e kenyelelitsoe ka har'a litokomane, leha ho na le litokomane
tse 20,000, ho kenyeletsa le tsa tšebeletso ea sephiri.

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Empa ho hlakile hore Maamerika a ne a mo laotse ka
botlalo, a mo beha leihlo ka botlalo, ka taelo ea GPS.

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Ho boetse ho na le tlhokomelo ea nako ea sebele ea moqoqo oa hae
le moetapele oa IS naheng ea Libya, moetapele oa

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likhukhuni, oo ba o entseng ka Searabia. Empa leha
ho le joalo, o ile oa fetoleloa ka nako e tšoanang.

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Sena se bontsha boemo ba tlhokomelo e ntseng e
etswa moo le hore na ke sepheo sa bohlokwa bo bokae.

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Mme a ka be a tshwerwe kgale. O
entse ditlolo tsa molao tse mmalwa.

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O bile a thibeloa ho etsa joalo ha
lintho li mo tšosetsa haholo Jeremane.

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O ne a batla ho balehela mose. O ile a thibeloa ho tloha naheng.

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Anis Amri o ile a botsisiswa mme a re
jwale o tla tshwarwa hore a ntshwe naheng.

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Mme a re, Ke batla ho tsamaya ka boithaopo hona jwale.

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Ha ho hlokahale hore le nkgoreletse. Ke batla ho kgutlela
Botjhabela bo Hare. Mme mmuso wa kopanelo o thibetse seo.

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Mmuso wa kopanelo o ile wa etsa bonnete ba hore
e mong wa bafereferehi ba hae o lelekoa naheng ka

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bosiu bo le bong ho ea Morocco kamora tlhaselo.

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Ho na le bopaki bo bontšang hore e ne e le mofetoheli bakeng sa
litšebeletso tsa sephiri tsa Morocco le hore o ne a sebeletsa IS.

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Ha a ka a qosoa. Ka maikutlo a ka, o ne a lokela ho isoa ka pele
ho lekhotla, empa ho e-na le hoo o ile a lelekisoa Lefapheng

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la Naha la tsa ka Hare ka tsela ea sephiri e tletseng mano.

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Mosali ea neng a ikarabella bakeng sa sena o ile a fuoa
ke Mofumahali Merkel boemo ba moemeli naheng ea

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Amerika. Ke kamoo taba ena kaofela e ileng ea phahama kateng.

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Mme ho hlakile haholo ho nna hore Maamerika,
ehlile, le Majeremane ba foufetse ka ho

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feletseng ha ho tluwa tabeng ya bokgukguni ba Maislamo.

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Ba itšetlehile ka sekhobo ho Maamerika, a mamelang ka
sephiri ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe le motho e mong le e mong mona.

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Mme ha Maamerika a re, "Ha le mo tshware,"
balaodi ba Majeremane ba kopanya litlhako tsa bona

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mme ba etsa hantle kamoo ba laetsweng kateng.

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Ee. Ee, ha re kgutleleng boemong ba ha jwale.

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Libuka tsa bona li na le lihlooho tse kang Ho Tšikinyoa ha Mmuso
oa Jeremane, Tahlehelo ea Tšireletso ea ka Hare

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le ea Kantle, le Ntoa ea Lehae e a Tla: Matšoao
a Mafetohe le Liphetohe Litoropong tsa Jeremane.

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Jwale, mmuso o motjha wa kopanelo o ipehetse morero
wa ho tsosolosa tlhophiseho le ho boela o laola meedi.

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Na o nahana hore kopano ya mokga o motsho le o
mokgubedu e tla tlisa phetoho e molemo mona?

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Ha e le hantle, ke ile ka ngola ka ho
sitisoa ha botsitso ba Jeremane ka 2016.

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Ka nako eo, e ne e ntse e nkuoa e le
ho tsosa tšabo le ho hohela matšoele.

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Mme jwale re e bona letsatsi le letsatsi
ditabeng, leha ho le jwalo ditaba tse ngata di patilwe.

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Empa batho ba ka iponela ka bo bona ha ba
tsamaya bohareng ba metse ea bona hore na ho

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etsahetse eng ka lilemo tse seng kae feela.

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Mme ke ka lebaka leo buka ena e bileng, ka
bomadimabe, ka bomadimabe, tsohle di ile tsa phethahala.

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Mme ke yona e neng e le kgothatso ya
ka ya ho tswela pele, ho tsosa batho.

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Mme karolo ya bobedi ya potso, bofubedu-bo botala, ha e
le hantle bofubedu-bo botala, nka re bofubedu-bo botsho.

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E, phoso ea leleme ha e le hantle ke karolo ea
lenaneo, hobane ho tšoana le bofubelu-bo-botala.

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Red-Black ha e le hantle e tsoela pele moo
kopano ea mabone a tseleng e qeteletseng teng.

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Taolo ena ea meeli ke papali feela e se nang boleng ba 'nete.

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Ha ho na ho lelekoa naheng ka mokhoa o tsitsitseng,
esita le bakeng sa linokoane, esita le Bakhatholike.

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Mme seo ha se fetohe ho hang. Ha ho na phetoho leano la bojaki.

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Ho latela mecha ea phatlalatso e ka sehloohong,
phetoho ena ea maemo a phallo ea batho e teng feela ho

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kokobetsa sechaba hore se se ke sa khetha mokha o mong.

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Mme ka bomadimabe, ha ho letho le tla fetoha
hore e be betere tlasa kgetho ya mmuso ona.

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Mme seo se bolela hore boradipolotiki ha ba batle ho lokisa
boemo bona. Na ho na le batho ba etsang phaello ka sekhukhu?

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Lekgotla le sa bonahaleng, le sebetsang
kantle ho mekgatlo ena ya dipolotiki?

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Ba bangata ba rua molemo ho sena. Phallo e kholo
ea batho e fetohile mokhoa o moholo oa khoebo.

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Sheba feela lirenta tsena tse tshabehang, tseo mekgatlo ya
boiketlo ba setjhaba e kang Red Cross, Caritas, AWO le SPD

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e di bokellang haufi le Mokgatlo wa Boiketlo ba Basebetsi.

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Borakgwebo ba thekiso ya matlo, dibanka tse kgolo tsa Amerika,
Western Union, ba etsang tjhelete e ka etsang dibilione ho tswa

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ho tjhelete e fetiswang ho tswa Jeremane le Bophirimela ba
Yuropa, e leng karolo e tswang matloleng a tshireletso ya

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setjhaba, mme karolo e nngwe e tswa botlokotsebeng, ho ya
dinaheng tsa habo bona, moo phaello e ntan'o

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eketseha le ho feta ka ditefello tse phahameng le
sekgahla se fokolang sa phapanyetsano ya tjhelete.

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Ho feta moo, ehlile, meaho ena kaofela ea
mekhatlo e sa laoleng 'muso, eo joale e

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tšehelitsoeng ka lichelete ka kotloloho ke 'muso.

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Kahoo, oo ke moralo o moholo oa khoebo. Hape ke
lona lebaka le leng le etsang hore batho ba bangata

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haholo ba thahaselle hore ho se letho le fetoheng.

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E. Kahoo seo se bolela hore boradipolotiki ha
ba na thahasello ea 'nete ea ho fetola lintho.

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Ho na le ketsahalo ea pontšo, ba re.

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Ho na le bankakarolo ba bangata ba etsang phaello ka sephiring,
jwalo ka dibanka le mekgatlo yohle eo o e boletseng, le di-NGO.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, o ka bona hore bajaki
ka bo bona ka tsela e itseng ke mahlatsipa kapa

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lithōle tsa ba iphumanelang molemo ka sekhukhu.

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Linaha tsa bona, tse kang Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq le
Libya, li thunngoe ka libomo ka lebitso la demokerasi.

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Ebe ba tla mona ka boqhekanyetsi,
mohlomong ba batla ho ikopanya le sechaba.

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Ba bang ba tšositsoe ka tlhaho ke lintoa.

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Sena se jala lehloeo mme se etsa hore batho ba
be bonolo ho susumetsoa maikutlong a feteletseng.

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Mme ka lehlakoreng le leng, ho na le dibaka tse ntseng di eketseha
Jeremane tseo le mapolesa a sa iteteng ho kena ho tsona.

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Ebe ba re, e, re tla thibela dithipa kapa ra eketsa tlhokomelo
ho baahi e le tharollo. Empa seo ha se rarolle bothata ho hang.

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Na o na le maikutlo a hore ho na le morero o phethuoang mona?

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Ho na le lepetjo lena la Freemasonry ea maemo
a holimo: Tlhophiseho ho tsoa moferefereng.

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Sena se bolela hore sechaba se bolokoa boemong ba
matšoenyeho ho fihlela se batla boetapele bo matla le ho amohela

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litharollo tseo pele li neng li sa nahanoe. Na ho joalo?

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Ee, bothata ke hore ha e le hantle re na le moferefere.

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Re na le dipuisano tse ngata tsa ho kgelosa
ho lebisa mehopolo hole le ditaba tsa

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bohlokwa, jwaloka sebaka sena sa thibelo ya thipa.

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Bothata ha se thipa, empa ke batho ba hlaselang ka
thipa. Ke ka lebaka leo ena e leng ngangisano e khelisang.

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Haufinyane tjena, motho e mong o
lemalitse e mong ka tšepe e sehang ka moea.

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Joale re tla tloha re tlameha ho theha le
libaka tseo ho sa sebelisoeng li-chainsaw ho tsona.

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Mme kannete, ho boetse ho jwalo hore maemo ana, ao
boradipolotiki ka bo bona ba a bakileng, jwale a sebediswa ho

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kenya tshebetsong melao ya tshireletso e thata le ho feta.

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Poloko ea data, tlhokomelo ea mehala ea
thekeng, thibelo e eketsehileng marang-rang a

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sechaba, taolo e eketsehileng ea maikutlo.

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Mme mehato ena ha e lebisitswe ho dinokwane kapa batho ba
kotsi, empa e lebisitswe ho baahi le mecheng ya phatlalatso,

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jwalo ka Compaq, mohlala, e kgahlanong le dipehelo tsena.

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Mme sena se bontsha hore sena ha se etsahale ka kotsi,
empa ke morero, ke lenaneo le ntseng le phethahatswa.

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Le ka tshenyo ya naha ya motho ka
boyena, le ka tshenyo ya baahi ba naha ya hae.

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Mme ke sona se senyang ka boemo boo re hlileng re
bileng ho bona ho tloha ka 2015, bo ntseng bo mpefala

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le ho fihla sehlohlolong selemo se seng le se seng.

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Ee, ha o re sena se etswa ka boomo, sephetho
sa ho qetela e tla ba Jeremane e sa tsitsang.

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Na dipolotiki di rua molemo ho sena? Ke bolela
hore, ho ntse ho ba thata le ho feta ho buswa.

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Joale le utlwa hore ba haha terata e kgolo ho potoloha
Bundestag le tse ding, ba ntse ba itshireletsa le ho feta.

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Ka nako e 'ngoe, ho tla ba kotsi bakeng sa bahlomphehi bana.

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Hantle, ba sirelelitsoe hantle. Ba na le
lilimosine tsa semmuso tse sirelelitsoeng ka thepa e

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thata, ba na le tšireletso ea BKA e hlometseng.

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Ha ba sa phela bophelo bo
tloaelehileng, ha ba sa ea mabenkeleng ba le bang.

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Seo se bolela hore ha ba hlokomele le ho
se hlokomele. Ke sephiring se koetsoeng.

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Mme jwale moepo wa AHA o ntse o hahuwa
hodima Reichstag. Ke sona seo o se bitswang.

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Kahoo, ke mofuta oa tšitiso ea tanka
e o thibelang ho khanna moo ka koloi.

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Ha e le hantle, ba ntse ba itekanya ka matla ka hare, mme jwale
setereke sa mmuso se ntse se atoloswa le ho feta, leha ho se

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na dibilione tse teng, mme re le ka tlasa sekoloto sa dibilione.

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Hona joale ntlokgolo ya mmuso e ntse e atoloswa hape ka
ditshenyehelo tsa hoo e ka bang euro tse

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bilione, leha e se e le nngwe ya ditlokgolo
tsa mmuso tse kgolo ka ho fetisisa lefatsheng.

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Kahoo ehlile ke leano le khahlanong le naha
ea heno le khahlanong le sechaba sa heno.

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Buka ea hau ea ho qetela e na le sehlooho se
tšoanang, Ntoa ea Sephiri Khahlanong le Jeremane.

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Mme sehlooho se senyenyane ke sefe? Naha e
shebisisitsoeng ke maemo a holimo a lefats'e.

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Ke mang ea qholotsang ntoa mona?
Mme ho buuoa ka bo-raliphephe hofe?

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Mme ntoa ena e lwanwa ka mekgwa efe?

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E, ena ha se ntwa feela jwalo ka
ha re ne re nnile ra e nahana pele.

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Mokha A o loantša Mokha B, empa re
na le ntoa ka mahlakoreng a mangata.

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Re ntweng ya moruo kgahlanong le Jeremane, ha o sheba Maamerika.

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Ebe ho na le Joe Biden, eo ke dumellanang ka botlalo le mohale wa
dipatlisiso Simon Herschel wa Amerika, ya reng mmuso wa Joe

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Biden o qhomisitse Nord Stream 2 hobane ba ne ba batla ho re
arola ho Russia le kgase ya yona ya Russia ya theko e tlase.

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Hona joale re reka khase ea LNG e litšila,
e turang ho feta tekano, ho tsoa Amerika.

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Hape ona ke ntoa khahlanong le Jeremane, khahlanong le
phepelo ea eona ea matla, khahlanong le moruo oa eona.

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Re na le indasteri ea lichelete e kang BlackRock, e
bileng e phatlalalitse maikutlo ana a tlelaemete pele e

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ikarola ho ona. E ne e boetse e le mokhoa oa khoebo.

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Li-hedge fund tsena tse tona, ka karolo e 'ngoe, li tšehelitse ka
lichelete mekhatlo e ikemetseng ea tlelaemete e le hore e ka beha

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khatello ho boralipolotiki hore ba fetole
lifeme tsa bona ka mechini e mecha, eo

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indasteri ea lichelete e seng e tsetetse ho eona.

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Kahoo ena ke mochini o moholo haholo oa ho aba chelete bocha,
hantle feela joalo ka ha ho bile le COVID-19, moo chelete e

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ngata haholo e neng e le teng, moo chelete e neng e nkuoa ho
baahi ba maemong a tlase ebe e abeloa indasteri ea meriana.

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Mme re bona sena kannete sebakeng se seng le se
seng, ke ka lebaka leo sehlooho sa buka se bileng teng.

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E, e boetse e bitsoa ntoa e tsoakiloeng, ke hore,
ntoa e sa loanoeng ka libetsa tse tloaelehileng.

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U belaela hore merero ke efe ka morao ho
sena, ntle le hore libapali ka bomong li itlotse?

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E, ke sepheo se matla haholo. Liphihlelo, libilione tsa
liphihlelo, matla le tšusumetso, ehlile,

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hammoho le boits'ireletso, hore motho a
lule a sirelelitsoe khahlanong le qoso.

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Sena se bonahala haholo le Jeremane.

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Linaheng tse ling tsa Europe, le Amerika, ho boetse ho na le
bo-ralipolotiki ba sebeletsang likahlolo tsa

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chankana, tse ling tsa tsona li nka lilemo
tse 'maloa, ka lebaka la bobolu le bomenemene.

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Naheng ea Jeremane, ha ho motho oa lipolotiki ea
maemong a phahameng ea tšoeroeng teronkong a emetse nyeoe.

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Le Habeck, moo ofisi ea mochochisi oa sechaba e kileng ea iteta
sefuba ho nka khato, 'me ehlile re na le ofisi ea mochochisi oa

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sechaba e laoloang ke litaelo tsa lipolotiki, empa e ile ea iteta
sefuba ho mo fuputsa ka ho tlola karolo ea molao e khahlanong

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le ho nyenyefatsa borena, e leng ntho eo eena ka boeena
a seng a e qalile khahlanong le baahi makhetlo a makholo.

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Mme mekgatlo ya kgale ya Bundestag ya e hana, e leng ntho e se
nang kelello hape, e sireletsa boradipolotiki ba yona ho qoswa ka

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ho se lekane, ha ka nako e tshwanang e potlakela
ho phahamisa matsoho kgahlanong le

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boradipolotiki ba bohanyetsi ebe e qala diphuputso tsa matlo.

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E, empa leha ho le jwalo o re qetellong ke papadi ya dipolotiki
e bapallwang ka pela rona, e leng karolo ya ho re kgelosa.

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Ke nahana feela hore ho bohlokoa hore re se ke ra lahleheloa ke
tsepamiso ea maikutlo ho seo, ke ka lebaka leo ke ileng ka botsa

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ka maemo a phahameng ka morao, hobane ho sa
tsotellehe hore na u shebile taba efe, ho bonahala eka ke

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batho ba bangata-tsoo ba laolang lintho ka sekhukhu.

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Ee, qetellong o dula o sebedisa maqhama a tshwanang.

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Kahoo ho na le kopano ea lipolotiki le sesole, joalo ka Ukraine,
'me joale hape ka tlhaselo ea Amerika ho Iran, eo

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ba e qobelletseng leha Donald Trump a ne a
tšepisitse ntho e fapaneng ka ho feletseng pele ho likhetho.

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Le ka bona seo, ehlile, le ka se bona hona joale ka ho
hlomella hape ka matla a maholo ha NATO, EU le Jeremane.

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O ka bona sena lekaleng la meriana ka
coronavirus, moo re tšepang hore Bobby Kennedy o

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tla phahamisetsa matsoho le ho feta Amerika.

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Ha ke nahane hore e hlile e se e qalile.
Batho ba bangata ba ne ba tšepile ho feta.

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E, ke ntwa e sa feleng pakeng tsa botle
le bobe, haeba o batla ho e bitsa jwalo.

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U itse hore Trump o tshepisitse ntho e
fapaneng le seo a se phethahatsang haele hantle.

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O ka se bona ka ho hlaka haholo ho Friedrich Merz.

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Le litšepiso tsa likhetho tsa bohlokoahali ka ho fetisisa kaofela
li tlotsoe ka nako e ka tlase ho likhoeli tse tšeletseng.

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U nahana hore sechaba se tla mamella sena
nako e kae, mme se itumelle ho tsamaiswa ka

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nko, ka bobedi ba rona le ba ka mose ho mawatle?

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Kahoo, ho 'na, Friedrich Merz ke moqhekelli
e moholo ka ho fetisisa oa likhetho ho

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tloha qetellong ea Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše.

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Mme ke dumela hore jwale re letsatsing la bo 54 kapa la
bo 55 ka morethetho wa sekoloto, moo a buileng leshano.

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Mme jwale ho senotsoe hore le pele ho dikgetho, o ile a laela
hore ho etswe tlaleho, eo ke dumelang e bitsitse €9,500, ho tswa

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ho Udo Di Fabio, ya neng a lokela ho mo lokisetsa motheo, e leng
molao ona wa ho laola sekoloto, ho Bundestag ya kgale, moo

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Mokga wa Greens o neng o ntse o na le dikgetho tse ngata ho feta
wa AfD, e le hore o tle o o fetise, a se a lokisitse tsohle.

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Mme yaba setjhaba sa Jeremane se bolelwa hore ho
bile le sekgobo se amang Zelensky White House.

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Tsena tsohle li ne li se li entsoe qeto pele ho
likhetho, kahoo e ne e le bomenemene bo boholo ba likhetho.

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Mme haeba ho ne ho na le mecha ya phatlalatso e sebetsang hantle
Jeremane, ho ka be ho bile le tsebiso ya ditaba tsa letsatsi

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le letsatsi ho fihlela Friedrich Merz a itokolla mosebetsing.

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Mme sena se bontsha hore leha re na le bothata ba tlhaho ba
dipolotiki, bothata bo boholo ka ho fetisisa, e le kannete, ke

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bothata ba mecha ya phatlalatso, matla a mecha
ya phatlalatso ya ARD, ZDF, mecha e ka

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sehloohong ya phatlalatso, Spiegel, Axel Springer Verlag.

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Ba etsa qeto ya hore ha re na ho fetola sekgobo sena sekgobo.

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Ho e-na le hoo, ba qapa sehlooho se seng hape se khahlanong le
AfD, kapa mecha e meng ea litaba ka tsela e itseng e

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fumana sehlooho se seng seo ba ka hlahisang sekhobo ka sona
le ho khelosa tlhokomelo. Mme ke eona bothata bo boholo.

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Mme ke dumela hore ke ka lebaka lena setjhaba
se eso tswele diterateng, hobane matla ana a

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mecha ya phatlalatso a ntse a le maholo haholo.

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Ee, o buile nnete, dihlong tsena di latellana.

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Ke leqheka le sebediswang kgafetsa-kgafetsa.

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Ena ke leqheka le tloaelehileng la ho arola le ho busa, moo
dihlopha tse kang batho ba entilweng di qholotswang kgahlanong

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le batho ba sa entwang, le baahi ba lehae kgahlanong le bajaki.

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Empa ha re tlamehe ho wela lerabeng lena.

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Monghadi Schubert, ke leboha haholo ho bo-na le rona ka ho
arolelana ditiragalo tsena tse ferekanyang kajeno, ka ho re

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bontsha marapo le ho bonesetsa ka ba laolang ka sephiring.

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A re, bashebelli ba ratehang, re phatlalatseng lintlha tsena tsa
bohlokoa e le hore re ka sebetsana le bothata botebong ba

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bona, mme setjhaba se nang le tsebo se ka phethisa ba
busang boikarabello. Monghadi Schubert, ke a leboha haholo.

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Nka thaba haholo, mme ke leboha haholo ka memo.