WEBVTT 00:01.117 --> 00:04.429 Re thabetse ho amohela Stefan Schubert puisanong ea rona kajeno. 00:04.429 --> 00:08.781 Monghadi Schubert ke eo e neng e le lepolesa, moqolotsi wa ditaba, setsebi se tsebahalang sa tshireletso le mongodi wa 00:08.781 --> 00:12.211 dibuka tse fapaneng, ho kenyeletsa le tse rekisitseng haholo tse kang Der geheime Krieg gegen 00:12.211 --> 00:15.129 Deutschland (Ntwa ya Sephiri Kgahlanong le Jeremane). 00:15.129 --> 00:19.936 Libuka tsa hae li thehiloe mosebetsing oa hae oa pele oa ho ba lepolesa, 'me li bua haholo ka litaba tsa 00:19.936 --> 00:23.338 tšireletso ea kahare, botlokotsebe le phallo ea batho. 00:23.338 --> 00:26.492 Monghadi Schubert, ena ke puisano ya hao ya pele le Kla.TV. 00:26.492 --> 00:32.375 Na o ka rata ho its'ebisa ho bashebelli ba rona le ho ba bolella hanyane ka semelo sa hao? 00:32.375 --> 00:34.552 E, thapama e monate. Ke leboha haholo ka memo. 00:34.552 --> 00:39.146 E, o se o boletse boholo ba yona, haele hantle ke lepolesa la mehleng. 00:39.146 --> 00:45.060 Kamehla ke ne ke tlameha ho pheta lipale meketeng, likopanong tsa lelapa, har'a metsoalle, eaba batho ba re, "U lokela 00:45.060 --> 00:48.690 ho ngola seo," 'me ke kamoo ke ileng ka qala ho ngola kateng. 00:48.690 --> 00:51.358 Hona joale ho na le libuka tse leshome le metso e 'meli, ke nahana hore ke tse 'ne kapa tse 00:51.358 --> 00:53.149 hlano tsa Spiegel tse rekisoang ka ho fetisisa. 00:53.149 --> 00:59.038 Jwale, pele lenane la dibuka tse rekiswang haholo la Spiegel le ka qhekelwa ka tsela eo ho seng motho ya ka etsang hore a kene ho 00:59.038 --> 01:04.882 lona, ha re re, ho tswa mecheng ya phatlalatso e ikemetseng, e leng taba e nngwe ka ho feletseng, ke boetse ke thehile kanale ya 01:04.882 --> 01:08.352 YouTube dikgweding tse robedi tse fetileng, ke nahana, e bitswang Schubert's 01:08.352 --> 01:11.400 Lagemeldung, moo ke behang dintho letsatsi le letsatsi. 01:11.400 --> 01:19.055 Nka thaba haholo haeba bohle ba ka feta, ba ingolisa, le ho siea maikutlo. Qetellong, hape ke fana ka lipuisano khafetsa bakeng sa 01:19.055 --> 01:25.120 mefuta e meng ea mecha ea litaba, ho latela se etsahalang. Ka bomalimabe, ho na le lintho tse ngata tse 01:25.120 --> 01:29.383 etsahalang matsatsing ana, 'me ho lokela ho boleloa. 01:29.383 --> 01:35.131 Ho boetse ho thwe o na le dikamano tse ntle le ba boholong ba tshireletso, mapolesa le ditirelo tsa sephiri. 01:35.131 --> 01:41.440 Seo se ile sa hlahama joang? Ka tloaelo, mekhatlo e joalo ha e fihlellehe. 01:41.440 --> 01:46.853 Hantle, karolo e 'ngoe ke hobane le 'na ke tsoa semong seo, ehlile. Ke ile ka kena lithupelo tsa koetliso 'me ka sebetsa 01:46.853 --> 01:52.582 mafapheng a fapaneng le mebusong e fapaneng, 'me batho bao ke qalileng le bona ka nako eo le bona ba ile ba nyoloha maemong 'me 01:52.582 --> 01:56.777 ba ba le mesebetsi e atlehileng. Hape ke 'nete hore ka mor'a hore libuka tsa pele li hatisoe, 01:56.777 --> 01:59.996 ba bangata ba bona ba ile ba ikopanya le 'na. 01:59.996 --> 02:04.345 Eaba ke iketsetsa batho bao ke ba tsebang ba bacha, mme ke se ke fumane mangolo a mang ka lebokoseng la mangolo le tse ling. 02:04.345 --> 02:11.916 Kahoo ho tjena, taba e se e phatlaletse hara ba boholong ba tšireletso, 'me ka lebaka leo, ke na le tsebo e phethahetseng. 02:11.916 --> 02:17.017 E, seo se bolela hore o na le marangrang a pharaletseng, kahoo o ka fumana tlhahisoleseding eo o 02:17.017 --> 02:21.492 neng o ke ke wa kgona ho e fumana ka tsela e nngwe. 02:21.492 --> 02:29.357 Ruri, e, empa jwale ho na le kgatello hodima balaodi le mapolesa ka bomong hore ba senole ditlolo tsa molao. 02:29.357 --> 02:31.561 Hape ho ntse ho ba thata le ho feta ho kopana. 02:31.561 --> 02:34.944 Le ka mohala ha ho kgonehe, mme ho se ho le jwalo ka nako e telele. 02:34.944 --> 02:41.312 Ka hona, batho ba kantle ha ba na tsebo ho hang ka kgatello e bokellaneng ka hare ho ba boholong hore ba dule ba kgutsitse ka 02:41.312 --> 02:47.578 diphoso, le hore ba dumellane le ho pata taba hoo e leng ho etswang ke ba ba laolang dipolotiking. Ka hona, ho na le dintho 02:47.578 --> 02:50.969 tse ngata haholo tse fosahetseng ka tsela e tebileng mona. 02:50.969 --> 02:54.461 Ee, kahoo ha re qaleng ka taba ea ho pata lintho. 02:54.461 --> 03:01.601 Ka 2016, Anis Amri o ile a hlasela 'marakeng oa Keresemese oa Berlin, a khanna teraka a e kenya har'a letšoele. 03:01.601 --> 03:05.975 Tlhaselo ea pele e kholo ea bokhukhuni ba Maislamo Jeremane nalaneng ea morao tjena. 03:05.975 --> 03:08.491 U ngotse buka, Anis Amri le Mmuso wa Feterale. 03:08.491 --> 03:14.733 Mme moo, o bua ka dipatlisiso tsa hao le difaele tseo o di bokeletseng, o ngola hore ba boholong 03:14.733 --> 03:18.355 ba tshireletso ba ne ba tseba Anis Amri hantle. 03:18.355 --> 03:22.712 Tlhaselo e etsahetse tlas'a leihlo le nchocho la balaoli ba bangata. 03:22.712 --> 03:27.246 Mme o re ho sa natswe ho ahlolwa ha hae makgetlo a mangata nakong e fetileng, moetsadibe o ile a fuwa bolokolohi 03:27.246 --> 03:29.954 bo feletseng mme a ba a dumellwa ho baleha kamora moo. 03:29.954 --> 03:34.809 Eaba tsohle li koaloa. Ana ke liqoso tse tebileng haholo. 03:34.809 --> 03:39.763 Hobane seo se bolela hore mmuso wa kopanelo o amohetse ka boomo mafu a batho ba leshome 03:39.763 --> 03:43.168 le metso e mmedi le dikotsi tsa ba bang ba 70. 03:43.168 --> 03:47.380 U na le bopaki bofe bakeng sa liqoso tsena tse tebileng? 03:47.380 --> 03:50.085 E, ruri, tsena ke liqoso tse tebileng haholo. 03:50.085 --> 03:54.031 Mme ka fumana ditokomane tse 20,000 ho tswa ho balaodi bohle. 03:54.031 --> 04:00.505 Mme hape ke ile ka kgona ho bua le mofuputsi wa bokhukhuni ya neng a ameha ka kotloloho nyeoeng, ya ileng a mpontsha sena. 04:00.505 --> 04:06.401 O itse re ntse re leka ho tshwara Anis Amri ka selemo le halofo. Ha re fumane lengolo la ho mo tshwara. 04:06.401 --> 04:11.449 Re bile le likopano tse 'ne tsa sefahleho le sefahleho le ba boholong ba ileng ba re, tlohelang monna eo a iketse, ho sa 04:11.449 --> 04:15.865 tsotellehe litlolo tsa molao tse tebileng, ho sa tsotellehe ho hlajoa ka thipa mafung a lithethefatsi, le 04:15.865 --> 04:19.634 ho sa tsotellehe likamano tse tobileng le IS, e neng e le mafolofolo haholo ka nako eo. 04:19.634 --> 04:25.650 E ne e le hantle selekane seo Anis Amri a neng a na le sona; Anis Amri ha se moetsalibe a le mong, empa o ne a na le marangrang a 04:25.650 --> 04:28.790 maholo a IS Jeremane, a neng a kenyeletsa le Abu Wallah, mohlala. 04:28.790 --> 04:32.064 Hona jwale o tshehisoeng mahlong mme o batla ho thibela ho lelekwa ha hae. 04:32.064 --> 04:37.861 Mme eo e bile lebaka la kgopolo ya ka ya hore ditheo tsa sephiri, ho tloha Ofising ya Federale ya Tshireletso ya 04:37.861 --> 04:42.990 Molaotheo ho ya ho CIA, di entse sohle seo di ka se kgonang ho thibela mapolesa ho etsa mosebetsi wa ona. 04:42.990 --> 04:50.024 Ho tšoara monna enoa ea kotsi, eo bohle ba neng ba tseba hore o tla etsa tlhaselo ea bokhukhuni, eseng haeba, empa neng, e le ho 04:50.024 --> 04:54.365 fihlela batho ba mo laolang, hobane le fono ea hae e ne e mametsoe, ka taelo ea 04:54.365 --> 04:57.245 sathelaete likampong tsa IS naheng ea Libya. 04:57.245 --> 04:59.980 Mme ke sona hantle seo Maamerika a se entseng, ka sehlōhō se batang. 04:59.980 --> 05:04.469 Mme ke kamoo tlhaselo ya Breitscheidplatz e qalileng kateng. 05:04.469 --> 05:11.140 Mme hobaneng ditshebeletso tsa sephiri di ne di na le thahasello ya ho tlohela Anis Amri a tsamaye? 05:11.140 --> 05:15.678 Pele ho tsohle, ehlile, khauta e ncha ea litšebeletso tsa bohlale ke: data le meqoqo ea data. 05:15.678 --> 05:21.660 Anis Amri o ne a na le kgokahano e tobileng le baqapi ba bokhukhuni ba IS kampong ya sesole ya Libya. 05:21.660 --> 05:28.897 Mme o jwalo, o hara sehlopha sa Maislamo, o fihlile Jeremane a tswa Lampedusa, a feta Italy, 05:28.897 --> 05:32.814 moo a neng a se a le tjhankaneng e le senokoane. 05:32.814 --> 05:36.632 Batho ba IS ba ne ba mo thusa le ho mo tshehetsa hohle. 05:36.632 --> 05:38.568 E ne e le marang-rang ao batho ba neng ba batla ho a senola. 05:38.568 --> 05:41.120 Mme, ehlile, kgokahano e tobileng le Libya. 05:41.120 --> 05:49.262 Mme nakoana kamora tlhaselo e bolaeang ya bokgukguni mmarakeng wa Keresemese wa Berlin, e bile Maamerika a ileng a thunya dikampo 05:49.262 --> 05:55.006 tsa bokgukguni tsa Anis Amri naheng ya Libya ka sehlopha sa difofane se tswang Lewatleng la 05:55.006 --> 05:59.080 Mediterranean, mme ba bolaya dikgukguni tsa IS tse fetang 70. 05:59.080 --> 06:05.219 Mme mmuelli wa Pentagon le yena o ile a bua jwalo. Mme mmuelli enwa wa Pentagon o ile a boela a bolela ntho e neng e eso ho ke e 06:05.219 --> 06:09.199 buisanwe ka yona mecheng ya phatlalatso ya Jeremane, e leng hore tlhaselo ena ya sesole e ne e 06:09.199 --> 06:11.645 lebisitswe ho ba ka mora tlhaselo, e le ho iphetetsa. 06:11.645 --> 06:13.820 Mme ke ngotse sena sohle bukeng ya ka. 06:13.820 --> 06:18.854 Ke bolokile mehlodi e 600, e 700, ho kenyeletsa le mecha ya phatlalatso ya Amerika. 06:18.854 --> 06:24.024 E le hore ho hlahelle setshwantsho se hlakileng haholo le se sa belaetseng moo. 06:24.024 --> 06:28.000 Mme hape o re CIA e ne e kenetse? 06:28.000 --> 06:36.143 E, ho joalo. Mme ho hlakile haholo, ehlile, hore lenaneo lena la li-drone le lenaneo – le nang le lebitso le 06:36.143 --> 06:45.394 ikhethileng la ts'ebetso ea sesole – la ho felisa IS likampong tsa Libya. Mme hoo e ne e le haholo-holo lenaneo la CIA. 06:45.394 --> 06:47.001 Monghadi Schubert, hore re utlwane hantle. 06:47.001 --> 06:53.896 Seo se bolela hore mmuso wa US o laetse ba boholong ba tshireletso hore ba se ke ba tshwenya Anis 06:53.896 --> 06:58.242 Amri molemong wa bona. Na ke utlwisisa seo hantle? 06:58.242 --> 07:00.820 Ee, ehlile le nna ha ke na bopaki bo hlakileng bo tsoang ho CIA. 07:00.820 --> 07:07.014 Ha e kenyelelitsoe ka har'a litokomane, leha ho na le litokomane tse 20,000, ho kenyeletsa le tsa tšebeletso ea sephiri. 07:07.014 --> 07:13.425 Empa ho hlakile hore Maamerika a ne a mo laotse ka botlalo, a mo beha leihlo ka botlalo, ka taelo ea GPS. 07:13.425 --> 07:21.957 Ho boetse ho na le tlhokomelo ea nako ea sebele ea moqoqo oa hae le moetapele oa IS naheng ea Libya, moetapele oa 07:21.957 --> 07:30.632 likhukhuni, oo ba o entseng ka Searabia. Empa leha ho le joalo, o ile oa fetoleloa ka nako e tšoanang. 07:30.632 --> 07:35.360 Sena se bontsha boemo ba tlhokomelo e ntseng e etswa moo le hore na ke sepheo sa bohlokwa bo bokae. 07:35.360 --> 07:38.820 Mme a ka be a tshwerwe kgale. O entse ditlolo tsa molao tse mmalwa. 07:38.820 --> 07:42.438 O bile a thibeloa ho etsa joalo ha lintho li mo tšosetsa haholo Jeremane. 07:42.438 --> 07:47.420 O ne a batla ho balehela mose. O ile a thibeloa ho tloha naheng. 07:47.420 --> 07:55.573 Anis Amri o ile a botsisiswa mme a re jwale o tla tshwarwa hore a ntshwe naheng. 07:55.573 --> 07:57.600 Mme a re, Ke batla ho tsamaya ka boithaopo hona jwale. 07:57.600 --> 08:05.051 Ha ho hlokahale hore le nkgoreletse. Ke batla ho kgutlela Botjhabela bo Hare. Mme mmuso wa kopanelo o thibetse seo. 08:05.051 --> 08:09.952 Mmuso wa kopanelo o ile wa etsa bonnete ba hore e mong wa bafereferehi ba hae o lelekoa naheng ka 08:09.952 --> 08:12.040 bosiu bo le bong ho ea Morocco kamora tlhaselo. 08:12.040 --> 08:18.415 Ho na le bopaki bo bontšang hore e ne e le mofetoheli bakeng sa litšebeletso tsa sephiri tsa Morocco le hore o ne a sebeletsa IS. 08:18.415 --> 08:23.618 Ha a ka a qosoa. Ka maikutlo a ka, o ne a lokela ho isoa ka pele ho lekhotla, empa ho e-na le hoo o ile a lelekisoa Lefapheng 08:23.618 --> 08:26.677 la Naha la tsa ka Hare ka tsela ea sephiri e tletseng mano. 08:26.677 --> 08:31.345 Mosali ea neng a ikarabella bakeng sa sena o ile a fuoa ke Mofumahali Merkel boemo ba moemeli naheng ea 08:31.345 --> 08:34.558 Amerika. Ke kamoo taba ena kaofela e ileng ea phahama kateng. 08:34.558 --> 08:37.905 Mme ho hlakile haholo ho nna hore Maamerika, ehlile, le Majeremane ba foufetse ka ho 08:37.905 --> 08:40.161 feletseng ha ho tluwa tabeng ya bokgukguni ba Maislamo. 08:40.161 --> 08:45.040 Ba itšetlehile ka sekhobo ho Maamerika, a mamelang ka sephiri ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe le motho e mong le e mong mona. 08:45.040 --> 08:50.458 Mme ha Maamerika a re, "Ha le mo tshware," balaodi ba Majeremane ba kopanya litlhako tsa bona 08:50.458 --> 08:54.000 mme ba etsa hantle kamoo ba laetsweng kateng. 08:54.000 --> 08:58.202 Ee. Ee, ha re kgutleleng boemong ba ha jwale. 08:58.202 --> 09:04.916 Libuka tsa bona li na le lihlooho tse kang Ho Tšikinyoa ha Mmuso oa Jeremane, Tahlehelo ea Tšireletso ea ka Hare 09:04.916 --> 09:11.065 le ea Kantle, le Ntoa ea Lehae e a Tla: Matšoao a Mafetohe le Liphetohe Litoropong tsa Jeremane. 09:11.065 --> 09:17.891 Jwale, mmuso o motjha wa kopanelo o ipehetse morero wa ho tsosolosa tlhophiseho le ho boela o laola meedi. 09:17.891 --> 09:23.008 Na o nahana hore kopano ya mokga o motsho le o mokgubedu e tla tlisa phetoho e molemo mona? 09:23.008 --> 09:26.506 Ha e le hantle, ke ile ka ngola ka ho sitisoa ha botsitso ba Jeremane ka 2016. 09:26.506 --> 09:29.220 Ka nako eo, e ne e ntse e nkuoa e le ho tsosa tšabo le ho hohela matšoele. 09:29.220 --> 09:34.300 Mme jwale re e bona letsatsi le letsatsi ditabeng, leha ho le jwalo ditaba tse ngata di patilwe. 09:34.300 --> 09:37.706 Empa batho ba ka iponela ka bo bona ha ba tsamaya bohareng ba metse ea bona hore na ho 09:37.706 --> 09:40.352 etsahetse eng ka lilemo tse seng kae feela. 09:40.352 --> 09:45.455 Mme ke ka lebaka leo buka ena e bileng, ka bomadimabe, ka bomadimabe, tsohle di ile tsa phethahala. 09:45.455 --> 09:52.874 Mme ke yona e neng e le kgothatso ya ka ya ho tswela pele, ho tsosa batho. 09:52.874 --> 09:56.866 Mme karolo ya bobedi ya potso, bofubedu-bo botala, ha e le hantle bofubedu-bo botala, nka re bofubedu-bo botsho. 09:56.866 --> 10:01.188 E, phoso ea leleme ha e le hantle ke karolo ea lenaneo, hobane ho tšoana le bofubelu-bo-botala. 10:01.188 --> 10:04.360 Red-Black ha e le hantle e tsoela pele moo kopano ea mabone a tseleng e qeteletseng teng. 10:04.360 --> 10:08.928 Taolo ena ea meeli ke papali feela e se nang boleng ba 'nete. 10:08.928 --> 10:13.435 Ha ho na ho lelekoa naheng ka mokhoa o tsitsitseng, esita le bakeng sa linokoane, esita le Bakhatholike. 10:13.435 --> 10:17.340 Mme seo ha se fetohe ho hang. Ha ho na phetoho leano la bojaki. 10:17.340 --> 10:22.106 Ho latela mecha ea phatlalatso e ka sehloohong, phetoho ena ea maemo a phallo ea batho e teng feela ho 10:22.106 --> 10:24.807 kokobetsa sechaba hore se se ke sa khetha mokha o mong. 10:24.807 --> 10:31.183 Mme ka bomadimabe, ha ho letho le tla fetoha hore e be betere tlasa kgetho ya mmuso ona. 10:31.183 --> 10:36.277 Mme seo se bolela hore boradipolotiki ha ba batle ho lokisa boemo bona. Na ho na le batho ba etsang phaello ka sekhukhu? 10:36.277 --> 10:41.432 Lekgotla le sa bonahaleng, le sebetsang kantle ho mekgatlo ena ya dipolotiki? 10:41.432 --> 10:46.955 Ba bangata ba rua molemo ho sena. Phallo e kholo ea batho e fetohile mokhoa o moholo oa khoebo. 10:46.955 --> 10:55.614 Sheba feela lirenta tsena tse tshabehang, tseo mekgatlo ya boiketlo ba setjhaba e kang Red Cross, Caritas, AWO le SPD 10:55.614 --> 10:59.457 e di bokellang haufi le Mokgatlo wa Boiketlo ba Basebetsi. 10:59.457 --> 11:04.336 Borakgwebo ba thekiso ya matlo, dibanka tse kgolo tsa Amerika, Western Union, ba etsang tjhelete e ka etsang dibilione ho tswa 11:04.336 --> 11:08.828 ho tjhelete e fetiswang ho tswa Jeremane le Bophirimela ba Yuropa, e leng karolo e tswang matloleng a tshireletso ya 11:08.828 --> 11:12.778 setjhaba, mme karolo e nngwe e tswa botlokotsebeng, ho ya dinaheng tsa habo bona, moo phaello e ntan'o 11:12.778 --> 11:17.290 eketseha le ho feta ka ditefello tse phahameng le sekgahla se fokolang sa phapanyetsano ya tjhelete. 11:17.290 --> 11:22.218 Ho feta moo, ehlile, meaho ena kaofela ea mekhatlo e sa laoleng 'muso, eo joale e 11:22.218 --> 11:25.764 tšehelitsoeng ka lichelete ka kotloloho ke 'muso. 11:25.764 --> 11:31.594 Kahoo, oo ke moralo o moholo oa khoebo. Hape ke lona lebaka le leng le etsang hore batho ba bangata 11:31.594 --> 11:35.840 haholo ba thahaselle hore ho se letho le fetoheng. 11:35.840 --> 11:42.182 E. Kahoo seo se bolela hore boradipolotiki ha ba na thahasello ea 'nete ea ho fetola lintho. 11:42.182 --> 11:45.251 Ho na le ketsahalo ea pontšo, ba re. 11:45.251 --> 11:57.482 Ho na le bankakarolo ba bangata ba etsang phaello ka sephiring, jwalo ka dibanka le mekgatlo yohle eo o e boletseng, le di-NGO. 11:57.482 --> 12:01.603 Ka lehlakoreng le leng, o ka bona hore bajaki ka bo bona ka tsela e itseng ke mahlatsipa kapa 12:01.603 --> 12:03.503 lithōle tsa ba iphumanelang molemo ka sekhukhu. 12:03.503 --> 12:09.202 Linaha tsa bona, tse kang Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq le Libya, li thunngoe ka libomo ka lebitso la demokerasi. 12:09.202 --> 12:13.554 Ebe ba tla mona ka boqhekanyetsi, mohlomong ba batla ho ikopanya le sechaba. 12:13.554 --> 12:16.600 Ba bang ba tšositsoe ka tlhaho ke lintoa. 12:16.600 --> 12:20.694 Sena se jala lehloeo mme se etsa hore batho ba be bonolo ho susumetsoa maikutlong a feteletseng. 12:20.694 --> 12:26.518 Mme ka lehlakoreng le leng, ho na le dibaka tse ntseng di eketseha Jeremane tseo le mapolesa a sa iteteng ho kena ho tsona. 12:26.518 --> 12:34.708 Ebe ba re, e, re tla thibela dithipa kapa ra eketsa tlhokomelo ho baahi e le tharollo. Empa seo ha se rarolle bothata ho hang. 12:34.708 --> 12:39.852 Na o na le maikutlo a hore ho na le morero o phethuoang mona? 12:39.852 --> 12:43.391 Ho na le lepetjo lena la Freemasonry ea maemo a holimo: Tlhophiseho ho tsoa moferefereng. 12:43.391 --> 12:50.997 Sena se bolela hore sechaba se bolokoa boemong ba matšoenyeho ho fihlela se batla boetapele bo matla le ho amohela 12:50.997 --> 12:54.883 litharollo tseo pele li neng li sa nahanoe. Na ho joalo? 12:54.883 --> 12:57.406 Ee, bothata ke hore ha e le hantle re na le moferefere. 12:57.406 --> 13:00.569 Re na le dipuisano tse ngata tsa ho kgelosa ho lebisa mehopolo hole le ditaba tsa 13:00.569 --> 13:02.586 bohlokwa, jwaloka sebaka sena sa thibelo ya thipa. 13:02.586 --> 13:08.953 Bothata ha se thipa, empa ke batho ba hlaselang ka thipa. Ke ka lebaka leo ena e leng ngangisano e khelisang. 13:08.953 --> 13:11.951 Haufinyane tjena, motho e mong o lemalitse e mong ka tšepe e sehang ka moea. 13:11.951 --> 13:15.756 Joale re tla tloha re tlameha ho theha le libaka tseo ho sa sebelisoeng li-chainsaw ho tsona. 13:15.756 --> 13:22.531 Mme kannete, ho boetse ho jwalo hore maemo ana, ao boradipolotiki ka bo bona ba a bakileng, jwale a sebediswa ho 13:22.531 --> 13:26.183 kenya tshebetsong melao ya tshireletso e thata le ho feta. 13:26.183 --> 13:30.570 Poloko ea data, tlhokomelo ea mehala ea thekeng, thibelo e eketsehileng marang-rang a 13:30.570 --> 13:33.470 sechaba, taolo e eketsehileng ea maikutlo. 13:33.470 --> 13:42.057 Mme mehato ena ha e lebisitswe ho dinokwane kapa batho ba kotsi, empa e lebisitswe ho baahi le mecheng ya phatlalatso, 13:42.057 --> 13:46.333 jwalo ka Compaq, mohlala, e kgahlanong le dipehelo tsena. 13:46.333 --> 13:53.785 Mme sena se bontsha hore sena ha se etsahale ka kotsi, empa ke morero, ke lenaneo le ntseng le phethahatswa. 13:53.785 --> 13:57.364 Le ka tshenyo ya naha ya motho ka boyena, le ka tshenyo ya baahi ba naha ya hae. 13:57.364 --> 14:02.162 Mme ke sona se senyang ka boemo boo re hlileng re bileng ho bona ho tloha ka 2015, bo ntseng bo mpefala 14:02.162 --> 14:05.100 le ho fihla sehlohlolong selemo se seng le se seng. 14:05.100 --> 14:12.027 Ee, ha o re sena se etswa ka boomo, sephetho sa ho qetela e tla ba Jeremane e sa tsitsang. 14:12.027 --> 14:17.082 Na dipolotiki di rua molemo ho sena? Ke bolela hore, ho ntse ho ba thata le ho feta ho buswa. 14:17.082 --> 14:22.560 Joale le utlwa hore ba haha terata e kgolo ho potoloha Bundestag le tse ding, ba ntse ba itshireletsa le ho feta. 14:22.560 --> 14:26.775 Ka nako e 'ngoe, ho tla ba kotsi bakeng sa bahlomphehi bana. 14:26.775 --> 14:30.820 Hantle, ba sirelelitsoe hantle. Ba na le lilimosine tsa semmuso tse sirelelitsoeng ka thepa e 14:30.820 --> 14:33.486 thata, ba na le tšireletso ea BKA e hlometseng. 14:33.486 --> 14:38.305 Ha ba sa phela bophelo bo tloaelehileng, ha ba sa ea mabenkeleng ba le bang. 14:38.305 --> 14:42.656 Seo se bolela hore ha ba hlokomele le ho se hlokomele. Ke sephiring se koetsoeng. 14:42.656 --> 14:47.562 Mme jwale moepo wa AHA o ntse o hahuwa hodima Reichstag. Ke sona seo o se bitswang. 14:47.562 --> 14:53.245 Kahoo, ke mofuta oa tšitiso ea tanka e o thibelang ho khanna moo ka koloi. 14:53.245 --> 15:00.557 Ha e le hantle, ba ntse ba itekanya ka matla ka hare, mme jwale setereke sa mmuso se ntse se atoloswa le ho feta, leha ho se 15:00.557 --> 15:04.415 na dibilione tse teng, mme re le ka tlasa sekoloto sa dibilione. 15:04.415 --> 15:08.463 Hona joale ntlokgolo ya mmuso e ntse e atoloswa hape ka ditshenyehelo tsa hoo e ka bang euro tse 15:08.463 --> 15:12.507 bilione, leha e se e le nngwe ya ditlokgolo tsa mmuso tse kgolo ka ho fetisisa lefatsheng. 15:12.507 --> 15:19.232 Kahoo ehlile ke leano le khahlanong le naha ea heno le khahlanong le sechaba sa heno. 15:19.232 --> 15:23.602 Buka ea hau ea ho qetela e na le sehlooho se tšoanang, Ntoa ea Sephiri Khahlanong le Jeremane. 15:23.602 --> 15:30.640 Mme sehlooho se senyenyane ke sefe? Naha e shebisisitsoeng ke maemo a holimo a lefats'e. 15:30.640 --> 15:33.338 Ke mang ea qholotsang ntoa mona? Mme ho buuoa ka bo-raliphephe hofe? 15:33.338 --> 15:36.800 Mme ntoa ena e lwanwa ka mekgwa efe? 15:36.800 --> 15:39.760 E, ena ha se ntwa feela jwalo ka ha re ne re nnile ra e nahana pele. 15:39.760 --> 15:43.516 Mokha A o loantša Mokha B, empa re na le ntoa ka mahlakoreng a mangata. 15:43.516 --> 15:48.475 Re ntweng ya moruo kgahlanong le Jeremane, ha o sheba Maamerika. 15:48.475 --> 15:55.583 Ebe ho na le Joe Biden, eo ke dumellanang ka botlalo le mohale wa dipatlisiso Simon Herschel wa Amerika, ya reng mmuso wa Joe 15:55.583 --> 16:02.545 Biden o qhomisitse Nord Stream 2 hobane ba ne ba batla ho re arola ho Russia le kgase ya yona ya Russia ya theko e tlase. 16:02.545 --> 16:05.856 Hona joale re reka khase ea LNG e litšila, e turang ho feta tekano, ho tsoa Amerika. 16:05.856 --> 16:11.910 Hape ona ke ntoa khahlanong le Jeremane, khahlanong le phepelo ea eona ea matla, khahlanong le moruo oa eona. 16:11.910 --> 16:18.149 Re na le indasteri ea lichelete e kang BlackRock, e bileng e phatlalalitse maikutlo ana a tlelaemete pele e 16:18.149 --> 16:21.618 ikarola ho ona. E ne e boetse e le mokhoa oa khoebo. 16:21.618 --> 16:30.287 Li-hedge fund tsena tse tona, ka karolo e 'ngoe, li tšehelitse ka lichelete mekhatlo e ikemetseng ea tlelaemete e le hore e ka beha 16:30.287 --> 16:35.580 khatello ho boralipolotiki hore ba fetole lifeme tsa bona ka mechini e mecha, eo 16:35.580 --> 16:39.051 indasteri ea lichelete e seng e tsetetse ho eona. 16:39.051 --> 16:45.753 Kahoo ena ke mochini o moholo haholo oa ho aba chelete bocha, hantle feela joalo ka ha ho bile le COVID-19, moo chelete e 16:45.753 --> 16:52.065 ngata haholo e neng e le teng, moo chelete e neng e nkuoa ho baahi ba maemong a tlase ebe e abeloa indasteri ea meriana. 16:52.065 --> 16:56.931 Mme re bona sena kannete sebakeng se seng le se seng, ke ka lebaka leo sehlooho sa buka se bileng teng. 16:56.931 --> 17:02.081 E, e boetse e bitsoa ntoa e tsoakiloeng, ke hore, ntoa e sa loanoeng ka libetsa tse tloaelehileng. 17:02.081 --> 17:07.347 U belaela hore merero ke efe ka morao ho sena, ntle le hore libapali ka bomong li itlotse? 17:07.347 --> 17:13.534 E, ke sepheo se matla haholo. Liphihlelo, libilione tsa liphihlelo, matla le tšusumetso, ehlile, 17:13.534 --> 17:18.740 hammoho le boits'ireletso, hore motho a lule a sirelelitsoe khahlanong le qoso. 17:18.740 --> 17:21.204 Sena se bonahala haholo le Jeremane. 17:21.204 --> 17:25.485 Linaheng tse ling tsa Europe, le Amerika, ho boetse ho na le bo-ralipolotiki ba sebeletsang likahlolo tsa 17:25.485 --> 17:29.180 chankana, tse ling tsa tsona li nka lilemo tse 'maloa, ka lebaka la bobolu le bomenemene. 17:29.180 --> 17:36.083 Naheng ea Jeremane, ha ho motho oa lipolotiki ea maemong a phahameng ea tšoeroeng teronkong a emetse nyeoe. 17:36.083 --> 17:42.734 Le Habeck, moo ofisi ea mochochisi oa sechaba e kileng ea iteta sefuba ho nka khato, 'me ehlile re na le ofisi ea mochochisi oa 17:42.734 --> 17:48.639 sechaba e laoloang ke litaelo tsa lipolotiki, empa e ile ea iteta sefuba ho mo fuputsa ka ho tlola karolo ea molao e khahlanong 17:48.639 --> 17:54.508 le ho nyenyefatsa borena, e leng ntho eo eena ka boeena a seng a e qalile khahlanong le baahi makhetlo a makholo. 17:54.508 --> 18:03.024 Mme mekgatlo ya kgale ya Bundestag ya e hana, e leng ntho e se nang kelello hape, e sireletsa boradipolotiki ba yona ho qoswa ka 18:03.024 --> 18:08.546 ho se lekane, ha ka nako e tshwanang e potlakela ho phahamisa matsoho kgahlanong le 18:08.546 --> 18:13.941 boradipolotiki ba bohanyetsi ebe e qala diphuputso tsa matlo. 18:13.941 --> 18:25.343 E, empa leha ho le jwalo o re qetellong ke papadi ya dipolotiki e bapallwang ka pela rona, e leng karolo ya ho re kgelosa. 18:25.343 --> 18:30.922 Ke nahana feela hore ho bohlokoa hore re se ke ra lahleheloa ke tsepamiso ea maikutlo ho seo, ke ka lebaka leo ke ileng ka botsa 18:30.922 --> 18:35.324 ka maemo a phahameng ka morao, hobane ho sa tsotellehe hore na u shebile taba efe, ho bonahala eka ke 18:35.324 --> 18:39.060 batho ba bangata-tsoo ba laolang lintho ka sekhukhu. 18:39.060 --> 18:42.855 Ee, qetellong o dula o sebedisa maqhama a tshwanang. 18:42.855 --> 18:49.379 Kahoo ho na le kopano ea lipolotiki le sesole, joalo ka Ukraine, 'me joale hape ka tlhaselo ea Amerika ho Iran, eo 18:49.379 --> 18:56.071 ba e qobelletseng leha Donald Trump a ne a tšepisitse ntho e fapaneng ka ho feletseng pele ho likhetho. 18:56.071 --> 19:01.540 Le ka bona seo, ehlile, le ka se bona hona joale ka ho hlomella hape ka matla a maholo ha NATO, EU le Jeremane. 19:01.540 --> 19:06.418 O ka bona sena lekaleng la meriana ka coronavirus, moo re tšepang hore Bobby Kennedy o 19:06.418 --> 19:08.995 tla phahamisetsa matsoho le ho feta Amerika. 19:08.995 --> 19:13.759 Ha ke nahane hore e hlile e se e qalile. Batho ba bangata ba ne ba tšepile ho feta. 19:13.759 --> 19:22.112 E, ke ntwa e sa feleng pakeng tsa botle le bobe, haeba o batla ho e bitsa jwalo. 19:22.112 --> 19:26.592 U itse hore Trump o tshepisitse ntho e fapaneng le seo a se phethahatsang haele hantle. 19:26.592 --> 19:30.021 O ka se bona ka ho hlaka haholo ho Friedrich Merz. 19:30.021 --> 19:38.460 Le litšepiso tsa likhetho tsa bohlokoahali ka ho fetisisa kaofela li tlotsoe ka nako e ka tlase ho likhoeli tse tšeletseng. 19:38.460 --> 19:43.396 U nahana hore sechaba se tla mamella sena nako e kae, mme se itumelle ho tsamaiswa ka 19:43.396 --> 19:47.480 nko, ka bobedi ba rona le ba ka mose ho mawatle? 19:47.480 --> 19:49.937 Kahoo, ho 'na, Friedrich Merz ke moqhekelli e moholo ka ho fetisisa oa likhetho ho 19:49.937 --> 19:51.340 tloha qetellong ea Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše. 19:51.340 --> 19:58.833 Mme ke dumela hore jwale re letsatsing la bo 54 kapa la bo 55 ka morethetho wa sekoloto, moo a buileng leshano. 19:58.833 --> 20:05.138 Mme jwale ho senotsoe hore le pele ho dikgetho, o ile a laela hore ho etswe tlaleho, eo ke dumelang e bitsitse €9,500, ho tswa 20:05.138 --> 20:11.294 ho Udo Di Fabio, ya neng a lokela ho mo lokisetsa motheo, e leng molao ona wa ho laola sekoloto, ho Bundestag ya kgale, moo 20:11.294 --> 20:17.735 Mokga wa Greens o neng o ntse o na le dikgetho tse ngata ho feta wa AfD, e le hore o tle o o fetise, a se a lokisitse tsohle. 20:17.735 --> 20:23.940 Mme yaba setjhaba sa Jeremane se bolelwa hore ho bile le sekgobo se amang Zelensky White House. 20:23.940 --> 20:28.494 Tsena tsohle li ne li se li entsoe qeto pele ho likhetho, kahoo e ne e le bomenemene bo boholo ba likhetho. 20:28.494 --> 20:33.873 Mme haeba ho ne ho na le mecha ya phatlalatso e sebetsang hantle Jeremane, ho ka be ho bile le tsebiso ya ditaba tsa letsatsi 20:33.873 --> 20:37.088 le letsatsi ho fihlela Friedrich Merz a itokolla mosebetsing. 20:37.088 --> 20:42.969 Mme sena se bontsha hore leha re na le bothata ba tlhaho ba dipolotiki, bothata bo boholo ka ho fetisisa, e le kannete, ke 20:42.969 --> 20:46.514 bothata ba mecha ya phatlalatso, matla a mecha ya phatlalatso ya ARD, ZDF, mecha e ka 20:46.514 --> 20:49.444 sehloohong ya phatlalatso, Spiegel, Axel Springer Verlag. 20:49.444 --> 20:52.749 Ba etsa qeto ya hore ha re na ho fetola sekgobo sena sekgobo. 20:52.749 --> 20:59.082 Ho e-na le hoo, ba qapa sehlooho se seng hape se khahlanong le AfD, kapa mecha e meng ea litaba ka tsela e itseng e 20:59.082 --> 21:05.550 fumana sehlooho se seng seo ba ka hlahisang sekhobo ka sona le ho khelosa tlhokomelo. Mme ke eona bothata bo boholo. 21:05.550 --> 21:09.590 Mme ke dumela hore ke ka lebaka lena setjhaba se eso tswele diterateng, hobane matla ana a 21:09.590 --> 21:12.898 mecha ya phatlalatso a ntse a le maholo haholo. 21:12.898 --> 21:15.914 Ee, o buile nnete, dihlong tsena di latellana. 21:15.914 --> 21:18.914 Ke leqheka le sebediswang kgafetsa-kgafetsa. 21:18.914 --> 21:24.638 Ena ke leqheka le tloaelehileng la ho arola le ho busa, moo dihlopha tse kang batho ba entilweng di qholotswang kgahlanong 21:24.638 --> 21:28.099 le batho ba sa entwang, le baahi ba lehae kgahlanong le bajaki. 21:28.099 --> 21:29.941 Empa ha re tlamehe ho wela lerabeng lena. 21:29.941 --> 21:35.242 Monghadi Schubert, ke leboha haholo ho bo-na le rona ka ho arolelana ditiragalo tsena tse ferekanyang kajeno, ka ho re 21:35.242 --> 21:39.328 bontsha marapo le ho bonesetsa ka ba laolang ka sephiring. 21:39.328 --> 21:44.736 A re, bashebelli ba ratehang, re phatlalatseng lintlha tsena tsa bohlokoa e le hore re ka sebetsana le bothata botebong ba 21:44.736 --> 21:51.020 bona, mme setjhaba se nang le tsebo se ka phethisa ba busang boikarabello. Monghadi Schubert, ke a leboha haholo. 21:51.020 --> 21:52.726 Nka thaba haholo, mme ke leboha haholo ka memo.