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Esethulweni esilandelayo, ummeli onolwazi uzohlola futhi
aqinisekise isihloko esiphazamisayo esaxoxwa nguDkt

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Michael Brunner ngokuningiliziwe nangokusebenzayo okwengeziwe.

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Kugxile kakhulu ezinsongweni ezibhekiswe kithi ngenxa yamacebo
omthetho e-WHO nezivumelwano zayo zokulwa

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nezifo ezithathelana umhlaba wonke kanye ne-IHR,
okungukuthi Imithetho Yezempilo Yamazwe Ngamazwe.

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Umbuzo usasele: ngabe sibhekene nesongo
sohlelo lwezempilo olubusa ngokuphelele?

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Ngaphambi kokumema lo omunye osaziwayo e-AZK yesi-21
ngemibono yakhe yobungcweti ezosisiza, ake sibheke i-CV yakhe.

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UDkt. Beate Sibylle Pfeil, owazalwa ngo-1967,
ungummeli waseJalimane nomcwaningi ozimele ogxile ezindabeni

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eziphathelene nezizwana ezincane zikazwelonke eYurophu.

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Lokhu kusebenza ikakhulukazi emthethosisekelo,
emthethweni wamazwe ngamazwe nasemthethweni waseYurophu.

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Usezizuzele igama emkhakheni wakhe ngenxa yezinkulumo eziningi
nezincwadi eziyisisekelo, kuhlanganise

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nokuba ngomunye wababhali behhadi lwezincwadi
elinevolumu eziningi mayelana namaqembu ezizwe.

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Wayengumhleli omkhulu kusukela ngo-2008 kuya ku-2016.

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Kusukela ngo-2019, ungomunye wabahleli
be-European Journal of Minority Issues (EJM).

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Wafunda umthetho eNyuvesi yaseHeidelberg futhi
waphumelela ukuhlolwa kwesibili kombuso eFreiburg.

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Ngo-2002, waphothula iziqu zakhe
zomthetho ngenhlonipho eNyuvesi yase-Innsbruck.

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Wasebenza futhi wenza ucwaningo eSikhungweni
saseNingizimu Tyrol sezizwe ezingamaqembu iminyaka engu-20.

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Iminyaka engu-17 kuyo engumqondisi wesayensi wesibili.

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Ukusukela ngo-2017 kuya ku-2023, wayengilungu laseJalimane
lekhomithi yochwepheshe yeSivumelwano saseYurophu

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Sokuvikela Izilimi Zesifunda Noma Ezingaphansi,
isivumelwano samazwe ngamazwe seKhonsili yaseYurophu.

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Ukusukela ngo-2017 kuya ku-2022, wayenguSekela-Sihlalo
weSikhungo saseYurophu Sezindaba Zamaqembu Amancane eFlensburg.

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Umsebenzi wakhe wamanje ugxile ezinyathelweni ze-coronavirus,
kuhlanganise nezinhlelo ze-WHO ngokombono wezomthetho.

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Ungumuntu oyingxenye yeNethiwekhi Yabahluleli Nabamangaleli
Abahlaziyayo, Ithimba Lodokotela Nososayensi Bezempilo,

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Inkululeko Nokudemokhrasi, Abameli Abazimele, Abameli
Bokukhanyiselwa, Inhlangano Yomanyano

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Yezempilo Yomhlaba Wonke kanye neNhlangano
Yobungcweti Bezokwelapha Yesiqalekiso SikaHippocrates.

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UDkt. Beate Pfeil ukhuluma namuhla nge-WHO, ngesivumelwano
sobhubhane kanye nemithetho yezempilo yamazwe ngamazwe.

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Ingabe sibhekene nosongo lukahulumeni wezempilo ononya?

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Siyakwamukela, Dkt. Beate Pfeil.
Siyabonga ngokwabelana ngobungcweti bakho nathi.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu. Yiba umcibisholo ogobile. Ngiyabonga.

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Ngizoba yingozi kakhulu namuhla,
kodwa hhayi yingozi njengaleyo ye-WHO.

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Ngithanda ukuqala ngokubonga ngenhliziyo yonke kumlingani wami
uMnu Brunner ngesihloko sakhe esimangalisayo,

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ikakhulukazi ngoba kube yilokhu kanye nobuqotho bomuntu
obungenakwephulwa okwangenza ngaqala izifundo zami zomthetho.

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Lesi sisho sokuqala esivela kuMthetho
Oyisisekelo waseJalimane sihlale singumthombo wami

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wokugqugquzela kuyo yonke imfundo yami yezomthetho.

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Futhi uma ngikhuluma nge-WHO namuhla, ngicabanga ukuthi
akudingeki sonke sibe abameli. Uma sibheka le ndaba

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ngeso lokuhlonipha umuntu futhi sihlola i-WHO
ngalendlela, ezinye izimpendulo zingavela ngokuzenzakalelayo.

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Okulandelayo, ngifuna ukugxila kakhulu ezivumelwaneni
ezimbili ezibalulekile ze-WHO, Imithetho Yezempilo

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Yamazwe Ngamazwe kanye Nesisivumelwano Se-Pandemic.

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Kodwa kuqala, ake sichaze ukuthi yini esivele isebenza e-WHO.

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Ngoba lokho esikuhlangenwe nakho kule minyaka ebizwa ngokuthi
yiminyaka yeCorona kusukela ngo-2020, futhi

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lokhu akugcizelelwa ngokwanele, kuhlobene
nohlelo olusebekhona, ngingathi, lobuHoli be-WHO.

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Ngakho-ke iphuzu lokuqala, isibuyekezo se-WHO.

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Kukhona-ke umbuzo wokuthi singabhekana nani uma izichibiyelo
kuMthetho Wezempilo Womhlaba Wonke, ezamukelwe ngaphansi kwezimo

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ezingabazekayo ngomhlaka 1 Juni 2024, zingase
ziqale ukusebenza ngempela, kokubili ngaphansi

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komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe nangaphansi komthetho wasekhaya.

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Khona-ke, ngaphuzu wesithathu, ngithanda
ukukhuluma ngesivumelwano sobhubhane, esethulwe kulo

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nyaka kuphela kodwa asikakawamukelwa ngokuphelele.

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Ngingathanda ukuchaza ngalokho kafushane kamuva.

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Futhi-ke, ephuzwini lesine, ngizokhipha isiphetho sami okwamanje.

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Iphuzu lesihlanu limayelana nokuhlola imibono: yini
engase yenzeke ngokulandelayo nge-WHO nezinhlelo zayo?

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Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, umbuzo engicabanga ukuthi
usihlobene sonke: singenzeni? Thina, izakhamuzi ngabanye.

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Yebo, iphuzu 1. Ngokuphathelene ne-WHO kanye neziphene
zayo ezisistimeni ezikhona, ngizokutshela lokhu okwamanje.

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Lena yiphutha eliphelele lesistimu.

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I-WHO yasungulwa ngo-1948 njengomhlangano wamazwe.

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Futhi kancane kancane kodwa ngokuqinisekile, kusukela maphakathi
neminyaka yama-1980 kuqhubeke, kwavela inkinga

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eyayibangelwa ingxenye ngenxa yokuthi i-USA yamisa
iminikelo yayo yobulungu maphakathi neminyaka yama-1980.

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Kuvamile ukuthi izinhlangano ezinjalo zixhaswe
ngemali evela eminikelo ejwayelekile yamazwe

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angamalungu azo, engabekelwanga izinjongo ezithile.

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Maphakathi neminyaka yama-1980, ngenxa
yokugqugquzelwa yi-United States, amazwe

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amalungu nawo abambe iminikelo yawo yokuba yilungu.

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Kwabe sekuqala... Khona-ke, ngasese, ngokuthula
nangokungakhulumi, ingozi yaqala ukuhamba ngendlela yayo.

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Namuhla, cishe amaphesenti angama-85
webhajethi ye-WHO ancike ezinikelo ezizithandela,

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iningi lazo elibekelwe izinjongo ezithile.

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Laba banikeli, abangamanje abanikeli be-WHO,
bahlanganisa nezizwe ezingakhokhi kuphela imali yobulungu

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bazo, kodwa futhi ezenza iminikelo ehlukile ku-WHO.

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Ngeshwa, ngingathi iJalimane
iyisibonelo esihle kakhulu kulesi simo.

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Ngakho-ke imali yethu yentela iya ku-WHO ngobuningi.

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Futhi manje njengoba i-US isikhishiwe,
iJalimane kungenzeka ukuthi ingumnikeli wokuqala.

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Kukhona futhi izinhlangano zikahulumeni
zamazwe ngamazwe phakathi kwabanikeli, bese kufika

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iphuzu elibucayi: abantu abaningi abazimele.

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Manje kunocwaningo olusha olumangalisayo oluvela
e-Italy, cha, oluvela e-Australia, hhayi e-Italy.

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Bahlola iminikelo ebekelwe i-WHO – nakuba phakathi kwazo
kunezinkampani eziyisishiyagalombili kuphela zemithi – kodwa

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zonke ezinye izikhungo nezinhlangano ezingezona izizwe, ezibeka
iminikelo ebekelwe i-WHO, njengoba lolu

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cwaningo lukhombisa ngokucacile, zinezintshisekelo
ezihlobene nemithi cishe amaphesenti ayikhulu.

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Babiza lokhu ngokuthi kuhambisana nemithi.

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Futhi ezimbili eziphezulu yiGates
Foundation kanye neGavi Vaccine Alliance.

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Kuleli phuzu, ngithanda ukwengeza olunye uhlangothi lokuqala:
abasunguli be-WHO babe nombono engqondweni lapho bebhala

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eSigabeni 37 soMthethosisekelo we-WHO ukuthi, ekusebenzeni
kwemisebenzi yabo, uMqondisi-Jikelele nabasebenzi abakufanele

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bafune noma bamukele imiyalelo kunoma yimuphi umbuso noma igunya.

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Futhi lokho okusebenza kuhulumeni noma eziphathimandla
zikahulumeni kusebenza nakakhulu ezimisweni

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ezibophezayo ezivela embonini yezemithi noma
ezinhlanganweni ezihlangene nembonini yezemithi.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi i-WHO iphula
umthethosisekelo wayo ngalezi zinikelo ezibekelwe imigomo

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ethile, futhi kukhona neminye imihlahlandlela.

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Khona-ke sinenkinga eyengeziwe ngemuva
kwalezi zinikelo ze-WHO, engagcizelelwa ngokwanele:

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Uma, isibonelo, iBundestag yaseJalimane ingathi, yebo,
kumele nje sandise futhi iminikelo yamazwe amalungu, khona-ke

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besizoxazulula kalula inkinga yokuncika embonini yezemithi.

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Cha, Sekuyisikhathi eside sesihlanganise ngasese nangokuthula
futhi sasisungule izakhiwo zobudlelwano phakathi kwezizwe nabantu

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ngabanye ngasese ngalokhu engingakubiza ngokuthi ukwakhiwa
kokubambisana phakathi kukahulumeni nezakhiwo ezizimele,

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okungasabuzwa, lapho, isibonelo, eGAVI noma eCEPI,
i-WHO ixhunywe nohulumeni, neGates Foundation

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edumile, futhi, qaphela, nabakhiqizi bemijovo yokugoma.

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I-UNICEF, iBhange Lomhlaba kanye nezinye izinhlangano
ezingekho ngaphansi kukahulumeni nazo zibandakanyeka ku-GAVI.

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IKhomishini YaseYurophu nezinye izikhungo zocwaningo zisekela
i-CEPI, enohlelo lokuthuthukisa imijovo yokugoma ngokumelene

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nazo zonke izinhlobo ezingama-100 ezinsukwini eziyi-100.

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Ngokombono wezomthetho, lokhu akwamukeleki nhlobo ngoba izizwe –
lapha sibuyela emcabangweni oyisisekelo wokuthi izizwe zikhona

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ukukhonza abantu – kanye nabantu ngabanye, okuhlanganisa
isithunzi somuntu nenkululeko yomuntu, kanye nezinkampani

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ezizimele, ezingase ngokusemthethweni zigxile ekuzuzeni inzuzo.

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Kodwa lapho zombili sezixhumene futhi izikhungo
zikahulumeni sezincike ezinikelweni ezizimele

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eziholwa yinzuzo, sesivele sibhekene nengozi enkulu.

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Futhi le ndaba yonke, esivele ixhunyiwe ne-WHO futhi okungekho
nelinye ilungu lePhalamende laseJalimane, isibonelo,

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okukaze licabange ngayo kuze kube manje – kumele
sikubonise lokhu kubo – ukuntula kokusobala okucacile e-WHO.

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Asikho nje kuphela ukubambisana phakathi kukahulumeni
nezinkampani ezizimele, lapho izigaba ezizimele nezikahulumeni

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zixhunywe khona, kodwa futhi, njengoba ozakwethu
abahlakaniphile bekhombisile, kunokujikeleza okuqhubekayo

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kwabasebenzi phakathi kweGAVI, iGates Foundation kanye ne-WHO.

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Ngokungeqondile, iGates Foundation inikela ngokuqondile
nangokungaqondile, ngokusebenzisa ezinye izinhlangano

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ezixhaswayo, cishe amaphesenti angu-20 webhajethi ye-WHO.

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Futhi uMnu Gates, ngakolunye uhlangothi uzethula
njengomnikeli, ngakolunye uhlangothi uthola inzuzo kuzo

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zonke izinzuzo ezivela kulezi zinikelo ezicatshangwayo.

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Manje-ke sinokungqubuzana kwezintshisekelo okuningi kakhulu.
Lapho ochwepheshe abathi i-WHO esebenze embonini yezemithi bese

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ngokuzumayo ebuyela e-WHO noma ebuyela ukusebenza e-GAVI,
sinokungqubuzana kwezintshisekelo okuningi kakhulu.

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Futhi nansi into: lezi zingxabano azivezwanga,
bese ngokuzumayo kuvela umqondo wokuvikelwa kwedatha.

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Okulandelayo: izinkontileka nabaxhasi be-WHO, lapho umuntu angase
akwazi ukubona ukuthi abaxhasi bahlotshanisa iminikelo yabo

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naniziphi izinjongo, kungathi, "Sicela nisebenzise umuthi wethu
weModRNA, muhle kakhulu, ikakhulukazi uma kukhulunywa ngenzuzo;

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ngaphandle kwalokho ngeke sinikela nganoma yini kini,
ngakho sicela niwuncoma," futhi, ngokungahleliwe, lezi

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zinkontileka nazo aziveziwe, azifakwanga esidlangalaleni.

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Futhi okugqamile kunakho konke yinqubo
ebizwa ngokuthi Inqubo Yokubhalisa

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Kokusetshenziswa Okuphuthumayo, eyethulwe yi-WHO ngo-2022.

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Izinkampani zemithi sezivele zingafaka isicelo lapho ukuze imithi
nemijovo abayikhiqizayo ihlolwe, kuqala ngesilingo sangaphambi

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kwesikhathi, ngaphambi kokuba kwaziwe ngokunembile ukuthi yiliphi
igciwane lepandemiki elithi libi manje seliphinde lihamba futhi,

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okungukuthi kuqala ngokujwayelekile kusetshenziswa izibonelo
ezibekelwe izikhala, bese esigabeni sesibili, lapho kuvela khona

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lesi sibhicongo esibizwa ngokuthi i-pandemic,
kusetshenziswa amagciwane athile. Le mithi nemijovo ihlolwa

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kuqala yiKomidi Lokwethula bese kamuva yiKomidi Eliphelele.

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Kodwa manje kuza iskandali esiphakeme kunazo zonke: i-WHO igcina
ilungelo lokuzinqumela yodwa ukuthi izokwenzani noma

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ingakwenzi ngemiphumela yale mibiko yochwepheshe, futhi
igcina ilungelo lokunquma ukuthi izoshicilela yini noma cha.

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I-WHO igcina ukulawula okuphelele
ngemiphumela yemibiko yochwepheshe.

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Lena futhi yihlazo elingakaze libonwe ngaphambili, bese sizibuza
ukuthi kungani abantu abaningi manje sebehlupheka ngenxa

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yomonakalo wejabiso, ijabiso elithi i-coronavirus, futhi
kwezinye izimo basazange bazi ukuthi lokhu kungaba yimbangela.

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Manje-ke sine-WHO esivele ihlaselwe ukuhluleka okukhulu kohlelo
ngenxa yalesi simo, futhi manje kuvela inkinga

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enkulu kakhulu ehlobene nokuthi umuntu oyedwa
unamandla angaphezu kwesidingo ngaphakathi kwe-WHO.

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Futhi yilowo uMqondisi-Jikelele, njengoba sazi.
UMnu. Tedros yena uqobo usasesibukweni sezibonelelo

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zamalungelo abantu ngenxa yezono zempi nokunye okunjalo.

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Lo uTedros, ongenalo nhlobo ubufakazi bokuvunywa
kwedemokhrasi, usengakwazi kakade ukumemezela okubizwa ngokuthi

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izimo eziphuthumayo zezempilo ezikhathaza umhlaba wonke.

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Futhi ngaleli sizinda, angakhulula okubizwa
ngokuthi izincomo, futhi sabona umphumela wezenzo

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zikaMnu. Tedros zokuzipatha ngokuzikhukhumeza ngo-2020.

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Njengoba sonke sazi, lokhu kwabandakanya izimfuneko zokugoma
nokuhlolwa, ukuhlolwa kwezokwelapha, ukwelashwa,

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ukulandelela abaxhumene nabo, ukuhlukaniswa, ukubekwa
eceleni, imikhawulo yokuhamba nokuhweba, nokunye okunjalo.

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Manje, umhloli weqiniso angathi, yebo, kodwa uTedros
kumele acabange ngezimfuneko ezithile zamaqiniso,

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njengoba kuchazwe kuMthetho Wamazwe Ngamazwe Wezempilo.

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Yebo, bese ummeli ekhotha izandla ethi, yebo, sinohlu
olukhulu lwezifo, futhi uma zikhona futhi zisabalala

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ngokushesha emhlabeni wonke, angamemezela isimo esiphuthumayo.

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IsiNgisi, esifinyezwe ngokuhlakanipha saba
yi-PHEIC, Isimo Esiphuthumayo Sezempilo Yomphakathi

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Esikhathaza Umhlaba Wonke – yikuphi ukumangala!

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Futhi lapho enza izincomo, isibonelo, ngezidingo zokugoma
ngokujwayelekile noma ezikhungweni ezithile, kumele ahlole

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ukulingana, kumele ahlole ukuthi ngempela kusiza yini ukuvimbela
izifo ezithathelana emhlabeni wonke, ukuthi imiphumela

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engemihle ingaba yini, nokunye okunjalo; kumele enze konke.

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Yebo, kubhaliwe ephepheni, kodwa – futhi lokhu akukaziwa kabanzi,
kusekungaziwa kabanzi – ubufakazi besayensi

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nokulingana kubaluleke kakhulu lapha, kanti
iphepha abalubhalela kulo alifanele ngisho nalelo.

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Ngoba nakuba uTedros enekomidi yezimo eziphuthumayo
emeluleka, iyameluleka yena kuphela futhi ayizimele nhlobo.

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Amalungu aqokwa nguTedros uqobo futhi angaxoshwa uma kudingeka.

18:30.646 --> 18:37.796
Ngokungafani nalokho okubizwa ngokuthi izwe
elibuswa umthethosisekelo esifuna ukulithola

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njengamanje, akukho igunya elizimele lokwengamela.

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Konke lokhu kusho ukuthini?

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Sinezimpikiswano eziningi zezintshisekelo.

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Sibhekene nengozi enkulu yokuziphatha ngokungahleliwe,
ukuhlukunyezwa nokusetshenziswa kwamandla nguMnu.

18:56.012 --> 19:05.820
Tedros, ongase ezwa ezindebeni abantu abahlukahlukene
bemtshela izinto ezingaphaya kobufakazi nokulingana.

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Yingakho igama elithi "ingozi yokulawulwa
okungaphandle" liphinde likhulunywe lapha, noma ngubani.

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Futhi lokho okusemaphethelweni kwale cheni kungokubi kunakho
konke: ingozi, eseyiyiqiniso isikhathi eside, yokwephulwa

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okukhulu kwamalungelo ayisisekelo, okuhlanganisa ilungelo
lokuphila, ubunye bomzimba, futhi, impela, impilo yomuntu.

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Lokho, futhi akukwazi ukushiwo
kaningi ngokwanele, yilokho i-WHO namuhla.

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Singalindela ini esikhathini esizayo lapho le migomo yamazwe
ngamazwe yezempilo, esisondele kakhulu manje ekwamukelweni –

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njengoba ngishilo ngonyaka odlule, futhi
manje isikhathi sokuphikisa sesiphelile cishe

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kuwo wonke amazwe; kwaba ngomhlaka 19 Julayi.

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Amaqoqo-mbuso anethuba lokuphikisa i-WHO
mayelana nokungena emthethweni kwale migomo

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yamazwe ngamazwe yezempilo kusukela ngo-2024.

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Khona-ke i-WHO endala beyizosebenzisa inguqulo yangaphambilini.

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Ngeshwa, amazwe ambalwa kakhulu asebenzise lo mkhawulo
wesikhathi wango-19 Julayi. Sizokhuluma kabanzi ngalokhu kamuva.

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Abanye manje sebebophekile ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe
ukusebenzisa lo IGV uma bengakayisebenzisi,

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futhi uzongena emthethweni ngaphansi komthetho
wamazwe ngamazwe mhla zingama-19 kuSepthemba.

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Kusho ukuthini?

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Sesivele sahlanganisa i-PHEIC ku-IHR yamanje njengendlela
eqinisiwe, futhi manje sekwengeziwe isimo esiphuthumayo

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se-pandemic. Njengamagqwetha, siyabona ngokushesha ukuthi
kunezici ezengeziwe eziqinisa isimo – kumele

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kube yingozi nakakhulu, futhi umkhuhlane kumele
usabalale ngokushesha kakhulu emazweni amaningi.

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Kuyindaba yokweqa umthamo wohlelo lwezempilo.

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Inhloso ithi le ntsholongwane, njengoba ichazwa ngendlela
embi kangaka, ingabangela ukuphazamiseka komphakathi

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nokwezomnotho, bese kuthiwa ingozi ephezulu iyelokhu yanele.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu nakho kuyisigameko esingakaze sibe khona;
inkantolo yomthethosisekelo esebenzayo,

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njengaseNkantolo Yomthethosisekelo YaseFederal yaseJalimane,
bekufanele ihlakaze icala elinjalo kusukela ekuqaleni.

21:47.300 --> 21:53.953
Khona-ke iphuzu lesi-2: i-IGV entsha ithi ngokusobala ini?

21:53.953 --> 22:02.358
Lokho umkhankaso wemithi mhlawumbe ebekufuna futhi ethemba ngakho
isikhathi eside kakhulu: ukugxila okusha, i-newspeak enhle,

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imikhiqizo yezempilo efanele, kuhlanganise, impela, nemithi,
okubizwa ngokuthi izitofu zokugoma, kanye

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neminye, engiyithola iyethusa kakhulu,
izindlela zokwelapha ezisekelwe kumaseli namagene.

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Ngokwalokho esisizwile manje kumlingani wethu uBrody.

22:20.120 --> 22:28.622
Futhi zonke lezi zinyathelo manje zingaba yiziphakamiso
eziphuthumayo. Kodwa ngisho nangaphandle kwezimo eziphuthumayo,

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uTETROS, uMqondisi-Jikelele, angakhupha iziphakamiso.

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Lezi yiziphakamiso ezibizwa ngokuthi ezihlala njalo.

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Manje, ucwaningo nokuthuthukiswa kwale mikhiqizo kumele
kuqhutshwe ngokugcwele, futhi izitatimende ze-WHO

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zicacisa ngokuphelele: manje yonke imikhiqizo izoba ngokusekelwe
ku-mRNA, ikakhulukazi uma kukhulunywa ngemijovo yokugoma.

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Ucwaningo nentuthuko kufanele kukhuthazwe kakhulu, futhi
izikhungo ezintsha zokukhiqiza kufanele zakhiwe emhlabeni wonke

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ngoba, njengoba manje sesizwile eGeneva, inkinga ye-coronavirus
kwakuwukuthi amazwe asathuthuka ngokusobala awazange athole

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ukufinyelela okwanele kulezi zibusiso zonke. Lapha-ke
kuza umgomo wokulingana, noma ukusatshalaliswa ngokulinganayo.

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Futhi ubumbano, ngaphansi kwesibhengezo sobumbano, kusho
ukuthi amazwe acebile kumele achithe imali eziphongolweni

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zawo ukuze amazwe ahlwempu akhiqize ngisho nangaphezulu.

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Futhi njengoba ngishilo ngaphambilini, sekukhona ukubhaliswa
kokusetshenziswa okuphuthumayo, okusho ukuthi i-WHO isezama

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ukuthonya kakhulu eziphathimandla zokulawula emhlabeni wonke.

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Futhi ngachazelwa lokhu ngochwepheshe: ukukhiqizwa
kwalomuthi wokugoma obizwa ngokuthi i-ModRNA

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ngokungagwemeki kuhilela uhlobo locwaningo lokuzuza umsebenzi.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi amagciwane abangela ubhadane, manje esesifunwa
ngenkuthalo emhlabeni wonke ngoba nawo anenzuzo enkulu, aguqulwa

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ngokwenziwa elebhu, okusho ukuthi ukuguqulwa
kwabo kwenziwa ngokwenziwa ukuze kutholakale

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umuthi wokugoma oqondene nalokho kuguqulwa.

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Ochwepheshe abavumelani ngokuthi lokhu kuyingozi kangakanani.

24:25.690 --> 24:28.970
Ngizwa uDkt. Wodarg, bese ngizwa uProfesa Wiesendanger.

24:28.970 --> 24:32.210
Angiyena uchwepheshe kulo mkhakha, ngakho angikwazi ukwahlulela.

24:32.210 --> 24:37.050
Ngiyabona kuphela ukuthi ingcindezi ekhona
lapha ikhombisa ngokusobala ukuthi

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kunezintshisekelo ezicacile ezibekwe engcupheni.

24:40.970 --> 24:44.510
Kukhona amaqembu afuna ukubona ubhubhane omusha.

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Lokho ngiyakuqonda konke lokhu.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi sibona ukuqiniswa okwengeziwe
kombono ongenamahlangothi, ogxile ngokuphelele emithi.

24:56.630 --> 25:00.070
Sibona ukwanda kwezingozi zokuphepha.

25:00.070 --> 25:10.520
Profesa Kemmerer uthi ngempela ukuthi le
jekiseni ye-mod-RNA inikeza izimo ezingcono kakhulu

25:10.520 --> 25:15.100
ukuze izifo ezibhubhane zibambe umzimba womuntu.

25:15.100 --> 25:22.946
Ngokucindezela uhlelo lokuzivikela komzimba, lezi
zifutho ziqhubekela phambili ngokushesha izifo ezibhubhanayo.

25:22.946 --> 25:27.630
Lokho kungashiwo ngokuqinisekile ngokususelwa kulwazi lwamanje.

25:27.630 --> 25:32.190
Ukuphila nempilo kusengozini enkulu kakhulu.

25:32.190 --> 25:35.090
Manje kuza iphuzu lesithathu eliyingozi kakhulu.

25:35.090 --> 25:43.666
Le IGV manje iqukethe lokho esikuzwile isikhathi
eside evela e-EU, kanye nalokho esikuzwa emazweni ethu.

25:43.666 --> 25:47.810
Sikhona lapha engqungqutheleni yokulwa nokuvinjelwa kolwazi.

25:47.810 --> 25:56.383
Futhi esinye sezinsiza zezimfundiso eziyingozi kakhulu yile mbono
embi efihlakeleyo yokuthi kukhona igunya

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endaweni ethile elithi linelungelo lokulwa
nokudluliswa kolwazi olungelona iqiniso nolokukhohlisa.

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Futhi le monopolishi eqinile yokuthi yini iqiniso, engihlale
ngimangala ukuthi akekho ijaji lomthethosisekelo futhi cishe

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akekho uchwepheshe womthetho wemithethosisekelo okhombisa
lokhu, ngokuyisisekelo kuyaphikisana namalungelo ayisisekelo.

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Ilungelo eliyisisekelo lenkululeko yokuzwakalisa
nemfundo enkululekile lisekelwe emcabangweni wokushintshana

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ngokukhululekile kwemibono engxoxweni enkululekile.

26:32.970 --> 26:40.113
Futhi uma lokho sekuncishisiwe, lezi
zenkululeko sezivele zicindezelwe.

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Manje lokhu kushiwo ngaphandle
kokukhala okuvela emithonjeni esemthethweni.

26:44.490 --> 26:49.888
Umzabalazo wokulwa nokudideka kolwazi
nokusabalalisa ulwazi olungelona iqiniso kule IGV entsha.

26:49.888 --> 26:52.030
Okwengeziwe kulokhu ukuxhumana ngengozi.

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Ngakho-ke kukhona omunye umuntu ohleli lapho owazi ukuthi
kusebenza kanjani nokuthi lo mngcipheko ubukeka kanjani.

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Futhi manje unquma ukuthi yini ekwaziswa
emphakathini, nokuthi yini okufanele ibhekwe njengengozi.

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Futhi konke okunye kufihlwe.

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Ngemuva kwalokhu kunomqondo onobuqili kakhulu.
Kubizwa ngokuthi ukulwa nezinhlupho zolwazi.

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Nansi futhi ulimi lwepropaganda:
i-infodemic, cishe iyingozi njengobhadane.

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Futhi ngokomqondo, kungenzeka futhi ukuthi
ngisho nolwazi oluningi kakhulu lungakhanselwa.

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Ubani onquma ukuthi yini eningi kakhulu?

27:31.390 --> 27:38.530
Ngakho-ke thina bantu asisakwazi ukuhlukanisa
phakathi kolwazi esilusebenzisayo nolwazi esingalusebenzisi.

27:38.530 --> 27:45.586
Kukhona okuthile okwenzeka isikhathi eside
ekulawulweni kokuziphatha e-WHO, kodwa hhayi lapho kuphela.

27:45.586 --> 27:54.738
Abantu abasavunyelwa ukuba bavumelane nezimfuneko ezithile
ngamandla okuqinisa nokusebenza kahle kwezikhungo

27:54.738 --> 28:03.930
zikahulumeni – okungaba kuhle kakhulu – kodwa kunalokho
ngokudlala ngengqondo nokulawula ukuziphatha kwabo.

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Khona-ke asisadingi ubufakazi besayensi, okusiza
labo abafuna ukusebenzisa amandla noma ukwenza inzuzo.

28:11.380 --> 28:20.590
Lokhu kuqiniswa ngumqondo wokuthi i-WHO isayine izivumelwano
nemboni yonke yezobuchwepheshe bedijithali ezinkulu.

28:20.590 --> 28:25.079
Futhi ubani, uma kuba nokungabaza,
ongababiza ukuthi yini okufanele ibhekwe njengempela

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nokuthi yini okufanele ibhekwe njengamanga.

28:27.390 --> 28:30.413
Ukumangala, kumangala, nabo abaveli obala.

28:30.413 --> 28:38.534
Ngakho-ke lapha sinokucindezelwa kwenkululeko,
kwemibono, kolwazi, kanye nabezindaba, abezindaba

28:38.534 --> 28:44.640
abazimele nemidiya ezimele, ezimelela imibono ephikisanayo.

28:44.640 --> 28:49.426
Futhi, vele, lokhu kuyingozi kakhulu, inkululeko yezemfundo.

28:49.426 --> 28:55.650
Khona-ke iphuzu elilodwa lokugcina
elibalulekile: yini enye ekhona ku-IGV?

28:55.650 --> 29:07.978
Manje bayalela amazwe ukuthi asungule igunya likazwelonke le-IHR,
elizoba ngokuphelele lihlekelele ukusebenzisa izibopho ze-IHR,

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futhi ezingeni lokuphatha eliphakathi, isibonelo eJalimane
ezingeni lombuso kazwelonke noma ezingeni lomasipala,

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iziphathimandla zezempilo kuyo yonke indawo kumele zihloswe
noma, ngingathi, zikhuthazwe ukuhambisana nezibopho ze-WHO.

29:30.592 --> 29:36.963
Ezikhathini zokungabaza, sekungasahlolwa ukuthi lezi
zizathu zivumelana nengqondo futhi, ngaphezu kwakho konke,

29:36.963 --> 29:40.410
ukuthi ziyahambisana noMthethosisekelo namalungelo abantu.

29:40.410 --> 29:46.093
Ngakho-ke lokhu kuzokhuphula ingcindezi
emazweni asayina ukuze aqalise isivumelwano.

29:46.093 --> 29:54.286
Lokho kungaba i-IGV 2024, okuyikho esingakulindela.

29:54.286 --> 30:04.906
Isivumelwano sobhubhane lisekude kakhulu,
futhi ngenhlanhla enkulu, kungenzeka singasebenzi.

30:04.906 --> 30:11.290
Lokhu futhi kuhambisana nalezi zimo eziphuthumayo zobhubhane.

30:11.290 --> 30:17.330
Nokho, isivumelwano sobhubhane ngokwaso
asinayo imvume yokumemezela izimo eziphuthumayo.

30:17.330 --> 30:20.426
Ngeshwa, sesivele sinayo i-IGV yalokho.

30:20.426 --> 30:25.910
Kodwa kithi, isibonelo, ukuthi inkontileka isebenza
ngesikhathi sezinhlungu zomhlaba wonke nasemaphakathi kwazo.

30:25.910 --> 30:30.146
Ngakho-ke kuyakhuthazwa lapha indaba yobhubhane.

30:30.146 --> 30:32.150
Siphila esikhathini sezifo ezibhubhanayo.

30:32.150 --> 30:38.075
Incazelo eyodwa kuphela yi-zoonosis, ekugcineni
nayo ihilela imisebenzi yabantu ngemuva kwayo.

30:38.075 --> 30:41.350
Igama elibalulekile: ucwaningo lokuzuza umsebenzi.

30:41.350 --> 30:44.704
Lokho kuzofihlwa ngokushesha kakhulu.

30:44.704 --> 30:51.990
Manje sinokwenza kube sobala okwengeziwe nokuqinisa
ukukhushulwa kwale mikhiqizo yezempilo ebalulekile.

30:51.990 --> 30:55.570
Konke engikushilo lapha maqondana ne-IGV.

30:55.570 --> 31:01.376
Ngaphezu kwalokho, ukudluliselwa kobuchwepheshe
kufanele kwenzeke phakathi kwabacebile nabampofu.

31:01.376 --> 31:05.930
Kukhona futhi uhlelo oludumile
lokufinyelela amagciwane nokwabelana ngezibusiso zalo.

31:05.930 --> 31:12.510
Inkinga ukuthi amazwe emhlabeni wonke
ngokwemvelo alwa ngokufinyelela ezintweni zofuzo.

31:12.510 --> 31:17.470
Kodwa ngaleli sizinda, kungenziwa ukuthuthukiswa
kwemithi nemijovo yokugoma, okuyimodeli ezuza kakhulu.

31:17.470 --> 31:22.130
Futhi abampofu, vele, bafuna ukwabelana ngenzuzo yabacebile.

31:22.130 --> 31:27.530
Lokho kungaba inhlanhla kithi, ngoba
kunokungaboni ngaso linye ngaphakathi mayelana nezimali.

31:27.530 --> 31:33.130
Futhi yilokho futhi isizathu sokuthi lesi
sivumelwano sobhubhane lingakagunyazwa okwamanje.

31:33.130 --> 31:43.597
Futhi yingakho, lapho yamukelwa kulo nyaka, cishe kwaphuthelwa
ukuthi Isigaba 12(2) sithi isivumelwano singavulwa

31:43.597 --> 31:54.630
kuphela ukusayinwa uma izinhlangothi sezivumelene
ngesihlomelo saleyo 'sisistimu yomRoma Katolika' ebizwa kanjalo.

31:54.630 --> 32:03.412
Lokhu kusho ukuthi sinethemba elincane lokuthi impikiswano
yangaphakathi – lapho abantu ababili bephikisana, owesithathu

32:03.412 --> 32:14.410
ujabula – mhlawumbe impikiswano ngemali, idlala indima ebaluleke
kakhulu lapha futhi izosisindisa kulesi sivumelwano sobhubhane.

32:14.410 --> 32:17.750
Futhi lokho bekuzoba kuhle kakhulu.

32:34.070 --> 32:38.170
(Kuyiqiniso) kusekuyindaba yokuqinisa
izinhlelo zokugunyaza eziphuthumayo.

32:38.170 --> 32:45.445
Lokho okwakungaphambilini kuqukethwe kuleli khasi
elengeziwe – masibize ngokuthi Uhlu Lokusetshenziswa

32:45.445 --> 32:49.250
Ngokuphuthumayo – manje sekuchazwa ngokuningiliziwe.

32:49.250 --> 32:57.470
Ekugcineni, konke kumayelana nokusungula inkimbinkimbi
yezokwelapha nezimboni yomhlaba wonke, akukho okunye.

32:57.470 --> 33:04.770
Akukhona mayelana nempilo. Kuyindaba
okuphambene nempilo. Abantu bazohlala lapha.

33:04.770 --> 33:17.106
Impilo yabantu nokuphelela komzimba
kubekwa engcupheni ngenxa yenzuzo namandla.

33:17.106 --> 33:25.950
Futhi-ke sinephuzu lesithathu: umqondo
we-infodemic esivumelwaneni sobhadane uyakhathaza kakhulu.

33:25.950 --> 33:29.130
I-IGV ifaka phakathi ukulwa nokusabalalisa
kolwazi olungelona iqiniso kanye nokukhohlisa.

33:29.130 --> 33:32.070
Manje nansi enye i-bombshell.

33:32.070 --> 33:38.870
Kuyindaba yokuqinisa ulwazi lwesayensi, lwezempilo
kanye nolwazi ngesifo esibhebhethekile emphakathini.

33:38.870 --> 33:48.628
Lapha sibona ngokusobala iqiniso elibanjwe yi-WHO njengempahla
yayo yodwa: umphakathi kumele uhlanjwe ingqondo

33:48.628 --> 33:59.700
ngezindawo zezifo ezibhubhane, impilo yomphakathi nesayensi
– ngokwemvelo kuphela njengoba i-WHO iqonda la magama.

33:59.700 --> 34:03.713
Yebo, ngoba, njengoba ngishilo, asinalo igunya lokwengamela.

34:03.713 --> 34:12.635
Ummeli ophakeme weZizwe Ezihlangene useke wathi ngokusobala,
ngaphandle kokuphikiswa okukhulu okuvela eZizweni Ezihlangene,

34:12.635 --> 34:21.570
ukuthi i-WHO, njengoba sazi, iyinkampani engaphansi kweZizwe
Ezihlangene, nokuthi iZizwe Ezihlangene zinomnikelo wesayensi.

34:21.570 --> 34:26.766
Isayensi ihlobene kanjani nezakhiwo, ngiyacela?

34:26.766 --> 34:31.370
Incazelo eyodwa kuphela ihlale ingamandla nenzuzo.

34:31.370 --> 34:39.125
Futhi-ke abantu kufanele baziswe ngokusebenza
kahle nokuphepha kwemikhiqizo yezokwelapha.

34:39.125 --> 34:45.888
Ngakho-ke lokhu kuthathwa njengento eqinisekile
futhi ukuqondiswa kokuziphatha kuzoqhubeka kukhuthazwa.

34:45.888 --> 34:58.276
Bese siba nezinguquko ezengeziwe, uhlelo lokwengamela oluqinisiwe
kanye nokwethulwa komgomo we-One Health okhona, oxhumanisa impilo

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yezilwane nempilo yemvelo nempilo yabantu,
okunikeza i-WHO amandla angeziwe angenakulinganiswa futhi,

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ngokuqinisekile, kusekela le thiyori ye-zoonosis.

35:13.090 --> 35:19.502
Okungukuthi, izifo ezibhubhane azikwazi nhlobo ukubangelwa
abantu, kodwa kuphela lapho izilwane zigula

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ngokungazelelwe ngendlela eyingozi, noma ngabe
kungani, bese konke lokhu kusabalala kubantu.

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Ukusabalala kwezifo ezithathelana phakathi
kwezilwane nabantu, kunjalo, sekufakiwe.

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Yebo, futhi uma manje sibheka konke futhi,
umqondo wokuthi isithunzi somuntu

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asiphulwa, umqondo wamalungelo abantu, wenkululeko.

35:42.926 --> 35:49.247
Futhi-ke, uma sibheka lezi zivumelwano,
okokuqala futhi okubaluleke kakhulu, sithola ukuthi

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isongo esiyiqiniso sokuzimela kombuso siyakhula.

35:52.710 --> 36:03.993
Ngigcizelela "ngempela" ngoba ngisho nangonyaka ka-2020, akekho
umbuso owawuphoqelekile ukuthi usebenzise nje izincomo ze-WHO.

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Kodwa bayenzile.

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Benze lokho, kwangimangaza kakhulu.

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Futhi uMnu Brunner uchaze ngobuciko obukhulu
lapho kunezimbungulu ohlelweni lwethu lwezomthetho.

36:18.192 --> 36:31.057
Ngokombono wami, okushodayo yimoya ongaphandle kwayo ngisho
nohlelo lwezomthetho oluhle kakhulu lungeke luphile, umoya

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ongakwazi futhi ukubuyisela uhlelo lwezomthetho olunamaphutha.

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Besinamanye amathuba, isibonelo eJalimane, futhi ngempela
nakwezinye izindawo, lapho iNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo yeFederal

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yasebenza ngempumelelo, ithatha inkululeko nobuqotho
bomuntu njengesisekelo sayo sokuqala nenjongo yayo

36:51.302 --> 36:55.513
yokugcina, futhi ibeke lokhu kuqala nangaphezulu kwakho konke.

36:55.513 --> 36:57.906
Futhi konke lokho sekulahlekile.

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Ngiyakhumbula ukuthi ngangimangele kangakanani lapho
ngifunda okokuqala encwadini yesifundo somthethosisekelo ukuthi

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wonke umthethosisekelo uncike ezimeni engakwazi ukuzenza yona.

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Bengingihlala ngicabanga ukuthi yebo,
uma kubhalwe ephepheni, kuzolandelwa.

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Ngalendlela ongqondongqondo ngayo njengomfundi wezomthetho.

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Ngisanda kufundiswa isifundo,
kodwa esisezingeni eliphezulu kakhulu.

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Ngale mpi yokucabanga, ngale nqubomgomo ye-infodemic, ngalo
Mthetho Wezinsizakalo Zedijithali we-EU, ngalesi sifo

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esingahlanya sabahloli beqiniso, siphetha ngokuthi abantu
bayafundiswa kabusha ngokuphelele, besuka ekubeni izakhamuzi

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ezizimele ezicabanga ngokwazo baya ekubeni izinceku ezilalela.

37:48.430 --> 37:55.879
Lokhu kusebenza kuzo zonke izindawo, kuhlanganise nobuholi
bezwe, inkantolo, umkhandlu womthetho, nokunye okunjalo.

37:55.879 --> 38:06.990
Futhi ngaphandle kwalesi simo sokuhlonipha isithunzi somuntu
nenkululeko, ngisho nohlelo lwezomthetho alusakwazi ukusebenza.

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UMnu Brunner wakusho kahle kakhulu, futhi mhlawumbe kuleli phuzu
kufanelekile ukukhuluma ukuthi umbhalo wokuqala

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woMthetho Osisisekelo waseJalimane waqukatha umusho othi:
umbuso ukhona ngenxa yabantu, hhayi abantu ngenxa yombuso.

38:21.290 --> 38:30.380
Futhi konke lokho manje, njengoba ekushilo
ngobuhle ngenye indlela, sekususiwe okwamanje.

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Ngakho-ke ubukhosi buqhubeka busongelwa kakhulu yi-WHO,
futhi sinokwehluleka ngokuphelele kokulawulwa

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ngumthethosisekelo, kuhlanganise nezinkantolo zomthethosisekelo.

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Ngiyibona ngokwesaba okukhulu, ikakhulukazi
eJalimane, kanye nokuhlukunyezwa kwezombusazwe

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okwenzeka ezweni lethu – bengingasoze ngakucabanga.

38:57.840 --> 39:04.887
Futhi-ke, kunjalo, kuneingozi eyandayo yokubekwa kwemikhawulo
emikhulu kwenkululeko, izimemezelo

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ezingahleliwe zesimo esiphuthumayo, kanye neminye
imincomelo engapheli ekhawulela inkululeko.

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Futhi ngenxa yokuntuleka kwezinhlangano zokuqapha ezingeni
le-WHO, amazwe awazihloniphi izinhlangano zawo zokuqapha.

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Khona-ke sinenqophamlando ebalulekile enye, abasebenza nabo
uSilvia Behrendt noAmrei Müller abayiphawule kaningi: sibona

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ukufakwa kancane kancane kwezombusazwe zempi kwinqubomgomo
yezempilo, okuhambisana nesithombe jikelele somhlaba wonke.

39:35.420 --> 39:43.612
Nakuba lokhu kungakashiwo ezivumelwaneni, kunemfundiso yokuphepha
kwezempilo emhlabeni wonke: amagciwane abhekwa njengositha

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lomkhosi, ingozi yokuphepha, bese kufanele kuqaliswe impendulo
ezenzakalelayo, okusho ukuthi kusungulwa

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uhlelo oluzenzakalelayo, futhi, ngokwemvelo,
kusetshenziswa imijovo yokugoma ukuwulwa nawo.

39:56.610 --> 40:00.073
Akekho osebuza manje ukuthi izitofu
zokugoma ziyilimaza yini impilo yabantu.

40:00.073 --> 40:07.381
Futhi siphinde sibe, nakuba kuyindawo eyodwa kuphela,
ngokuqinisekile, ukuqiniswa kokuqapha kwedijithali kwabantu

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bonke, ngenxa yokuthi manje sekungeniswe izitifiketi zokugoma
zedijithali, nakuba kungeyona into eyodwa

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kuphela, kodwa kuyindaba ebaluleke kakhulu uma
kukhulunywa ngokulawulwa kombuso wobuphethe yonke.

40:19.870 --> 40:26.738
Kulokho-ke, kunjalo, kunezinqubo zezempilo eziqiniswe
kakhulu ezisetshenziswa yilesi sikhungo sezokwelapha

40:26.738 --> 40:31.270
nezemithi, nombono we-infodemic, engisewuchaze ngokuningiliziwe.

40:31.270 --> 40:36.586
Futhi-ke, ngempela, kunokulungiswa kabusha
kwezinkolelo okuqhubekayo kulezi zivumelwano.

40:36.586 --> 40:43.064
Kuyindaba yokuhambisa abantu kancane kancane kodwa
ngokuqinisekile kude nombono wokuthi mina ngingumuntu

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oyedwa, nokuthi inkululeko yami iyisiqalo nesiphetho.

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Cha, awuyena lutho, umphakathi uyikho konke.

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Ingabe lokhu kuyazwakala kukujwayelekile kuwe?

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Isithunzi somuntu, asisekho udaba.

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Sibona ukuthambekela ekulaleleni ngokuhlanganyela.

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Lokhu kuhlanganisa, isibonelo, indlela
ebizwa ngokuthi yokubandakanya umphakathi wonke.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi lapho kuvela ubhubhane
oluyingozi, wonke umuntu emphakathini kumele

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ahlale eduze futhi abheke ngasikhombisa esisodwa.

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Lokho kusho ukuthini ngokwengqondo?

41:15.008 --> 41:20.230
Ngokwengqondo, kusho ukuthi noma ubani ongadluleli
ogwini uphuma; sonke sesikade sikhona lapho ngaphambilini.

41:20.230 --> 41:24.020
Kufanele ufunde amalungelo akho ayisisekelo, kungenjalo uyaphuma.

41:24.020 --> 41:30.408
Noma yini ehlukile embonweni ojwayelekile
ihlaselwa kakhulu ngendlela ethile, bese kuba

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namalungelo angamanga ayisisekelo obulungiswa nobumbano.

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Futhi lezi zibekwa ngokulingana namalungelo abantu angempela.

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Yebo, lokho empeleni kuphendula umbuzo.

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Uma ngibuza, ingabe sisongelwa yihulumeni wezempilo ononya?

41:50.533 --> 41:57.046
Asinaso kuphela uhlelo lwezempilo olubusa konke okwamanje
oluxoxwa ngalo, kodwa futhi kunomkhuba womhlaba wonke wokuya

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ekubuseni ngamandla nasekubuseni konke ezindaweni lapho lokhu
kungakenzeki khona noma kungakaze kube njalo kuze kube manje.

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Lapho okufanele kwenzeke khona.

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Sibona ingcindezi enkulu emthethweni, emalungelweni ayisisekelo,
kanye nelungelo lokuvuma ngokuzithandela

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ekuhlolweni kwezokwelapha, elibekwe kuSigaba 7
seSivumelwano Sezamalungelo Abantu se-UN, njengoba sekushiwo.

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Sibeka ingcindezi kubukhosi bamazwe amalungu,
futhi ekugcineni lokhu kubeka ingozi enkulu kakhulu.

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Ngakho empeleni konke noma akukho.

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Yingakho sinengxenye yesihlanu.
Ngamafuphi, kwenzekani ngokulandelayo?

42:37.150 --> 42:43.028
Ngenhlanhla, umuntu angaba noma yiluphi ulwazi
angaluthanda ngalezi zifundazwe, kodwa

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ukuzihlukanisa kwe-USA kwakuyisignali ebaluleke kakhulu.

42:47.210 --> 42:49.350
I-Argentina yalandela isibonelo.

42:49.350 --> 42:56.160
Lezi zifundazwe ngeke zisaxhasi i-IGV kunoma iyiphi inguqulo.

42:56.160 --> 43:06.272
Lezi IGV 2024 nazo ngeke zisekelwe
ngu-Israel nase-Italy, okuyinto ejabulisa kakhulu.

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I-Austria nayo yafaka ukuphikisa, kodwa kuphela ngoba, futhi
ngisho lokhu ngaphakathi kwezimpawu zokucashunwa, baqaphele

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kade kakhulu ukuthi iPhalamende alikakayiniki imvume yalo.

43:17.830 --> 43:22.000
Nokho, ngokwomthethosisekelo, lokhu
bekumele kuvunywe; ngisho ne-IGV yokuqala kakhulu.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi basazofuna ukuthola
ukuvunywa kwePhalamende – kodwa okungenani kuyisiqalo.

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Mayelana nesivumelwano sobhubhane, njengoba
sengichazile, kunethemba ukuthi ngeke sifezeke.

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Futhi into eyodwa ebalulekile ithi – futhi ngiyibonile kulokhu
esibonelweni sase-Austria – ohulumeni

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abangakhethwanga ngqo ngokudemokhrasi bavunyelwe ukuxoxisana
nokusayina izivumelwano ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

43:50.586 --> 43:53.790
Njengomthetho, nokho, amaphalamende kumele anikeze imvume yawo.

43:53.790 --> 44:02.880
Sakwazi ukuqala lokhu ngomzuzu wokugcina e-Austria
futhi, ngoba ngandlela thile kwakungakabonwa, ngokumangazayo.

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Ngakho-ke, kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuthi okukodwa
kuwukuthi kumelwa ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe, kanti

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okunye kuwukuba nemvume yedemokhrasi kwezinqumo zikahulumeni.

44:11.970 --> 44:14.630
Ngokuvamile, amapharamente ayabandakanyeka.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi abameli emhlabeni wonke nabo
bacelwa ukuthi baphinde bahlolisise ukuthi ngabe

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bavumele iphalamende ukuba linikeze umbono nhlobo.

44:25.790 --> 44:29.590
Uma kungenjalo, sicela ubheke lokhu bese ukucela.

44:29.590 --> 44:35.110
Ngaphandle kwalokho, lezi IGVs nazo
azinakugunyazwa kalula kulezi zizwe.

44:35.110 --> 44:44.520
EJalimane, benza ngokucophelela kancane futhi manje
sebephasise umthetho wokuvuma nguhulumeni kazwelonke.

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Nokho, iJalimane yayivele ivumele isikhathi
sokuphikisa siphele, okusho ukuthi sekulingana nokuvunywa.

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Manje cabanga ukuthi i-Bundestag
ne-Bundesrat azidlulisi lo mthetho wemvume.

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Khona-ke uhulumeni uzobe esesimweni esinzima.

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, inesibopho ngaphansi komthetho
wamazwe ngamazwe, kodwa ngakolunye uhlangothi, akufanele

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idlule intando yePhalamende evezwe ngendlela yedemokhrasi.

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Kuyesabeka ukuthi bazovuma.

45:11.810 --> 45:16.170
Noma kunjalo, ngithola ukuthi
okwenzekayo lapho kuyajabulisa kakhulu.

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Futhi kunjalo nje, njengoba sivela emkhakheni
wamalungelo abantu, sinazo zonke amathuba okuthatha noma yiliphi

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ithuba elivela e-Austria ukuze sikhangise lezi zindaba.

45:28.366 --> 45:36.255
Kuyathakazelisa futhi ukuqaphela ukuthi lo mthetho eJalimane
usuyavuma ukuthi imvume ye-IGV ivimbela ilungelo eliyisisekelo

45:36.255 --> 45:41.642
lokuphelela komzimba, inkululeko yomuntu siqu,
ubumfihlo bokuxhumana, imfihlo yeposi

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nezokuxhumana, kanye nelungelo lenkululeko yokuhamba.

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Ngakho-ke bacabanga ukuthi lokhu kuzokwenzeka
ngokuzenzakalelayo, nakuba iziphathimandla zaseJalimane

45:53.281 --> 45:58.490
empeleni zidingeka ukuthi zisebenzise izenzo zomthetho ze-WHO.

45:58.490 --> 46:04.000
Yebo. Mina noMnu Brunner asizange sixoxe ngalokhu ngaphambi.

46:04.000 --> 46:12.030
Kodwa kimi, uma kukhulunywa ngalokho esingakwenza,
kuhlale kubalulekile ukubuyela emcabangweni wesithunzi somuntu.

46:12.030 --> 46:19.923
Kuchazwe ngobuhle ukuthi umqondo wokuzihlonipha komuntu,
njengesisekelo somthetho oyisisekelo, uvela

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emcabangweni wokuthi umuntu wenziwe ngesithombe
sikaNkulunkulu, ngakho-ke ugqugquzelwe ngobuKristu.

46:27.720 --> 46:31.450
Lokhu kudala inani labantu ngokwabo.

46:31.450 --> 46:41.376
Futhi kusukela emcabangweni wokukhanyiselwa, okusho ukuthi
kuwukuphuma komuntu ekungakhuleni akazibekele yena uqobo.

46:41.376 --> 46:46.496
Ngaphandle kwalo mqondo, akukho
okusebenzayo ohlelweni lwethu lwezomthetho, futhi

46:46.496 --> 46:49.650
mhlawumbe cishe akukho lutho ezimpilweni zethu.

46:49.650 --> 46:54.410
Ngakho-ke, empeleni kuwukwenza konke okusemandleni.

46:54.410 --> 47:06.441
UMnu Sasek wathi kahle kakhulu: hlale ucela usizo, ufundise abanye
emphakathini, abantu abasizungezile ngomsebenzi wezepolitiki,

47:06.441 --> 47:11.980
imibhikisho, amaphosta, izinkulumo, noma yini edingekayo.

47:11.980 --> 47:17.890
Ngabezindaba ezizimele, ngokusondela kubezindaba bezinkampani.

47:17.890 --> 47:22.830
Uma uqhubeka uzama, kungase kube khona
oyedwa noma ababili abazimisele ukwamukela.

47:22.830 --> 47:33.430
Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke ngokufundisa abezepolitiki,
njengoba bengabantu abasafanele abangase babe bangenalwazi.

47:33.430 --> 47:37.593
Ngicabanga ukuthi baningi abangahlanzekile.

47:37.593 --> 47:41.830
Kodwa mhlawumbe ababekiwe abangacabangi abanolwazi.

47:41.830 --> 47:47.930
Ngiyacela, ngiyacela, chaza kubo futhi ubakhuthaze
ukuthi benze isinqumo ngokusekelwe enhliziyweni yabo.

47:47.930 --> 47:55.419
Ekugcineni, qhubeka uzame njalo lapho
kungenzeka ukuya enkantolo nokukhombisa ukuthi

47:55.419 --> 48:00.190
amalungelo abalulekile abantu ayephulwa lapha.

48:00.190 --> 48:07.915
Futhi zonke izenzo ngazinye, ngiyaqiniseka
ngisho ukuthi yonke imicabango ngamunye ibalulekile

48:07.915 --> 48:12.490
lapha kusuka ku-CHA, futhi asifuni umhlaba onjalo.

48:12.490 --> 48:17.590
Siya embonweni womhlaba ongcono onezingqondo zobuntu nenkululeko.

48:17.590 --> 48:21.790
Ngokucabangela lokhu, ngiyabonga kakhulu.

48:32.512 --> 48:40.789
Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Beate Pfeil. Umsila wami usucijwe
futhi. Akukapheli okwamanje. Lokhu kuphefumula

48:40.789 --> 48:46.944
ngemva kokuphela kwe-Corona. Akulona iqiniso. Uyikuzwile.

48:46.944 --> 48:54.790
Ngingaphinda nje konke okushilo. Hamba ngesivinini esiphelele
emfundweni. Ngokwezinto esingakwenza, ngenkathi sisakwazi.

48:54.790 --> 48:58.857
Khona-ke sizobona ukuthi kwenzekani
ngokulandelayo. Siyabonga ngokuba nathi. Sisonke.

48:58.857 --> 49:01.410
Qhubekani nisixhumanisa. Qhubekani nizixhumanisa.

49:01.410 --> 49:06.850
Mabangane abameli abaningi nabahluleli kanye
nabantu bohlobo lonke bafike baqinise lo mngcele.

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Ngiyabonga ngobungcweti bakho. Siyakudinga. Ngiyabonga.