We now have the program director of Klagemauer.TV, Lois Sasek. Would you tell us who you are?
Hello, dear Stefan, hello Transition News.
Yes, I have been the production manager of Kla.TV for twelve years.
I was in charge of ten of my father Ivo Sasek's big feature films, both during the shooting and the editing.
About 20 years ago, I did everything on my own - editing, filming, shooting, all the effects - but then I brought in
dozens of volunteers, in editing, in film production in general.
And they then taught others, and I myself became more and more involved in overall management and coordination.
And later I also managed the entire international production.
We have now produced over 20,000 revealing programs on Kla.TV, and we have even broadcast
important documentaries in over 80 languages.
And we currently operate over 100 TV studios around the world.
Try to describe your profession or vocation in a few words.
I want to get the full potential out of every person.
I want to support each individual in their specific gifts as much as I can, so that together, in united strength, we
can expose the evil works of the destroyers of the people.
That we expose them, because in this way we can override them more and more.
Because the more people see what is going on in the background and how we are being cheated and exploited, the more we
understand the connections and the whole nation stops playing along with these games, then we have already won.
Because we are much more than the few percent that rule us!
Who exploit us and already own around 90 percent of all the money in the world.
And we already have several thousand people working for us on a voluntary basis - whether in
research, production, processing or securing sources.
Or some people collect pictures and film material and so on.
And so we work together like a swarm.
Many people also help out, for example, when they are simply cooking or cleaning for people who have important tasks,
so that they are free to write or edit programs and so on.
Because we do all that in our remaining free time.
Everyone who works with us is fully involved in life.
And they pay for it themselves, so that we can offer our entire range of services completely free of charge.
And that's my job, to simply coordinate everything here so that everyone feels completely at ease.
And that there are no overloads or excessive demands.
And that young people, for example, are also fully supported.
That everyone simply has maximum fun with their functions.
And that no one is pressed or in the wrong place where it does not flow out freely.
Because my father always said that if we are in the right place and satisfy the need that the whole thing
needs most, then the talents flow out of us like a stream.
And it's all 100% free-flowing. You really want to do it!
So it's all highly voluntary for us.
For example, I have my closest employees, good employees, who almost explode with inspiration and leadership gifts.
They had no success and no joy before, where they were in the wrong place. Nothing came of it.
And that's just amazing when you see how the individuals can suddenly unfold so fully, like fountains, when they are in their
right place and can unfold their purpose. And that is phenomenal.
And that's how I see my calling, to tease that out of everyone.
And I would love to do that for everyone in the whole world. So, that's my job.
Which people have influenced you?
Clearly my father Ivo Sasek.
He has influenced me the most by far.
My mom too, of course. For me, she is almost the most fantastic woman I know in this world.
But first a quick word about my father.
He has been my biggest role model since I was a little girl.
After all, he brought this whole worldwide organic movement into being in the first place.
Over the decades, he has learned in detail how a living organism works.
So "organism" means when many organs and cells work together harmoniously and form a whole.
Like a living, functioning being, such as our body, for example. And that is simply pure fascination.
And Kla.TV and all the other start-ups founded by my father stand on this foundation.
And he really did give thousands of lessons, always spent nights preparing, and didn't even charge anything for it.
So he always pours out everything he has. It's been like that ever since I've known him.
He is absolutely selfless, serving, devoted - and that's exactly how I want to be.
For me, my father is the bravest, most sincere person I have ever met.
But he has been persecuted for decades - always by the same people, by the way.
And is simply dragged through the mud in the worst possible way in the media.
And yet he simply stands there again and again, for the people, and tells the truth, completely fearlessly.
He is not intimidated. And for me, this man simply has greatness.
And I know what I'm saying here. I know him up close and personal.
He is sincere and authentic through and through!
And I think that is also the reason why it has always grown.
The more headwind there is, the more it has grown, its movement, its foundations.
One more word to mom, because you say who shaped me.
But I have to say, he couldn't do it all without his mom. Mom is the strong hand in the background!
She holds everything together at the base - she holds the family and the whole business
together with incredible love and dedication.
She holds it together through her being, her serving, the atmosphere she creates.
And that's exactly how I want to be. So a perfect mix between dad and mom - Lois.
What do you expect from your fellow human beings?
So from those who have woken up and already see what's going on in the world, I hope that they will take responsibility.
Because what good is it if you see exactly what is going wrong and then take yourself out
or only talk about it at the regulars' table?
I say: EVERYONE can ALWAYS do something! Even if you only cook tomato soup for someone who does something.
And if we don't take responsibility, nothing will change.
And even if someone isolates themselves now and only looks after themselves - you can't just be happy on your own.
Because we are all connected as human beings.
We have a common psyche - as Dad always explained.
That was also our message on our family tour.
That was in 2010 with the title "Organism our destiny", when we traveled through Europe as a family of 13, with mom
and dad, and passed this message on to thousands of people.
And each of us then made a song to go with it and passed on a short message.
You can also get the songs and the movie for free from us.
But what I expect from people who are under the impression that everything is running smoothly and
wonderfully here in the world and that we have no problems:
My wish for you is that you don't just swallow everything that the mainstream media says.
Whether it is slander or allegations, hate speech against people or countries.
Please don't just take it for granted, always check for yourself.
Listen to the other side too. And please, please question!
Because, in many cases, this determines life and death!
In this program, six wars are explained in eight minutes, which were only started by media lies.
Millions of people have lost their lives simply because of war lies spread by the media!
And that is why I hope that all my fellow human beings will not simply swallow media slander or media incitement, no
matter against whom, but always listen to alternative news, listen to the other side and form their own opinion.
Do your own research, always remain critical, just don't swallow everything, please!
And you are active in the alternative media scene. Klagemauer.TV has been around since 2012.
And behind this is the OCG, Organic Christ Generation.
What is the OCG? And when and why was it founded?
The OCG was founded in 1999.
This is called "Organic Christ Generation", I already mentioned it in a previous question.
"Organic" means that we are an organism, a body made up of many organs.
Transition News is an important organ, Kla.TV, but also the individual people.
They are all links that interact organically and together form a whole.
The "C" in the middle stands for "Christ", and that is the most important thing about the whole thing.
"Christ" means "spirit-lived", "spirit-worked", "spirit-enabled".
This organism that is emerging here worldwide is being lived by a higher power.
So it's not one person who could somehow hold everything together or who is the driving
force behind it or who could coordinate it.
No one can ever keep track of who is supposed to do what, when and why.
There is a much higher level of intelligence involved than a human could ever achieve. It's a million times more blatant than AI.
And this divine intelligence is heavenly superior.
This spirit drives the body, that is, it lives out the body.
And it's so ingeniously calculated, it takes everything into account.
And that drives every single link. It's just like you.
You have a body, you have a spirit and a soul.
And the body alone would be nothing without the mind.
And this is such a gigantic power and such perfect guidance that I am "flashed" (=
impressed, overwhelmed, amazed) by it every day.
I could tell you stories about stories from this week alone. These are minute tours.
Take Thursday, for example: I had to go to a very important spontaneous appointment in the
afternoon. Nobody knew about this appointment beforehand.
Mischa from East Germany gets in touch with Katharina.
And Katharina is a very close colleague, I have worked very closely with her for years.
And he tells this Katharina like this: He wants to look after her baby for Thursday morning, go shopping for
her, wants to peel her completely free so that she can help me. He's never done that before!
Then Katharina gets in touch with me, and at the very moment she tells me this, I find out about this
mega important appointment on Thursday afternoon!
And I still have a lot to prepare for this appointment, but I don't have the time.
So I can hand everything over to Katharina and everything is ready at the minute and it works out wonderfully with the deadline!
And that's how it goes every day, down to the second.
Or Niki, for example, who gets in touch with me:
"Hey, Lois, I've got another hour, do you need me?"
And right at that moment, I think to myself: I still have an hour to go.
And I can simply hand over everything I can't manage to do to Niki for that one hour. And that's a second's work, every day!
And I don't have enough time to write down everything I've experienced in the evening when I'm lying
in bed "flashed" (= impressed, overwhelmed, amazed).
Because this ingenious spirit lives out every single one. And it always works out perfectly.
And for us, this power is not something impersonal.
Others call this force Mother Earth, for example, or the higher intelligence, there are many
names for it, and they all mean the same force.
But we as OCG simply have a living relationship with God, we call it God.
For us, it's a person. And then it's a matter of the heart.
And that's exactly what drives us so much from the inside.
And then we consciously give up the ego, our own leadership, because we want to be guided by this higher power,
by the Creator himself, because he simply has a better overview of everything than we can do ourselves.
We are simply limited in our own perception.
If we make decisions based on our ego, it won't turn out well anyway, and it won't make us happy.
But when we are guided by this spirit, every decision is a rejoicing, a joy. You are flashed! It's fun!
Yes, and it is simply this irrepressible force that drives us and coordinates everything perfectly. And that is OCG!
And you also asked why it was founded.
So this is not a typical human work.
Because this divine power also broke into Dad's life without him ever seeking it.
It's the same for all of us. You told me yesterday how you woke up, nobody looks for it or does it themselves.
There really are supernatural powers at play.
And there really are evil forces at work in this world, we feel.
And these can really only be overcome by divine power and divine intelligence.
But within us, because this divine power needs us humans to do it.
And that is why this divine power drives all these many organs around the world.
For example, all the justice movements and alternative media that have been springing up everywhere like mushrooms for years.
This is a global organism that is already in full swing here.
And we as OCG do not see ourselves as exclusive or unique.
We are also just one organ of a large body.
And we all need each other, every organ is different. And that's why we need each other all the more.
Yes, that's roughly (the answer) to the question you asked about the OCG.
And what are the most important beliefs of the OCG group?
So I would like to name the two most important ones here.
I told you that it is a divine force that drives and lives the whole thing.
But you also have to learn to go along with this divine power.
Like Mischa, for example, who feels that now I can look after Katharina's baby on Thursday
mornings and do the shopping for her and so on.
So, there is a clear navigation system that is very easy to learn.
And this is what we call GDGDL, the law of the spirit of life.
This is from the Bible, my father is a Bible teacher.
And for the sake of time, I'm not going into the depths.
But it's all about this spirit that lives and coordinates everything perfectly.
And this spirit manifests itself in divine life.
It's a feeling of life that transcends everything, you can feel it very clearly in a special effect of
peace, strength, lightness, freedom, joy and energy.
You can't really put it into words.
But this is how this quality of life manifests itself.
And then you want nothing more than to look after this baby, or whatever it is.
And we practise this in everyday life, with every decision, every word and every deed.
Either it goes "up", i.e. it is life, or it goes "down", in which case it is not life.
And this is how the whole organism is lived and guided.
And the special thing about the whole thing is that everyone always feels the same.
It's not like one person feels, hey, I'm getting so high, and the other feels, no, I'm getting so low.
Because it is a shared leadership, a shared testimony we call it.
And that is the law, or lawful, because it is always the case. And it always works.
That is why it is the law of the spirit of life. And we practise it in everything we do.
It's like programming language, 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1, and everything is based on this code.
And it's just that simple, and a lot of fun.
And the second thing, apropos content of faith, because you asked, or tenet of faith - don't know how you said
it, is something that distinguishes us from all Christians.
All Christians are waiting for Jesus, the Messiah, who will visibly return here on clouds and sort everything out for us.
The earth is burning up. We no longer have to take care of this earth.
And this belief of the vast majority of Christians makes them totally passive and they
take no responsibility at all for this world.
Because the dear Savior is doing all this and the earth is burning... We just have to wait until he comes. Right?
But my father is an excellent Bible expert and has examined all these passages in the original text of the
Bible, and he has discovered that this is not what it says in the original text - quite the opposite.
Dad really is the expert when it comes to this. And he works with over ten encyclopedias.
And this clearly shows that Jesus does not celebrate the individual show and does everything for us, but
that he wants to return in us - through his Spirit.
And that's why Dad is retranslating the whole Bible.
But there is one passage I would like to read very briefly about this return of Christ.
In Jude 14 and 15 it says: "Here, here, the Lord has returned in his dedicated myriads."
So myriads, that's such an uncountably large number of justice fighters.
Thus: "The Lord has come again in his holy and consecrated myriads to bring about a separation in all and everything down to
the bottom, and to refute every soul with evidence from investigations, all their ruthlessly hurtful
deeds with which they have wickedly transgressed against God." Even those we are looking at.
So, that's an example, that would just be the explanation of what Kla.TV is, right?
So in hundreds of places in the Bible, it is always precisely about God wanting to dwell
in us, that He does nothing simply on His own.
And that's why it needs you, for example from Transition TV - and God doesn't do that himself, does he?
I'll briefly fade in a program at this point, if you want to learn more about the topic, apropos "Second Coming
of Christ", we have translated that into many languages.
These are two important beliefs of ours.
The two important vessels AZK (Antizensurkoalition) and Klagemauer.TV also emerged from the OCG.
Can you give us names, dates and other important key data?
Yes, Dad has been persecuted and slandered by the same people for as long as I can remember. There were even attacks on him.
And at some point he realized that these people were not only persecuting him, but also others, whether from the world of
science, politics, the environment or the economy, people or communities from all sectors were called sects -
whether political sects, economic sects or scientific sects.
He simply realized that others are also being attacked by the same media and that they
simply don't get a voice in the public media.
In other words, they can't defend themselves, just like he can't either.
And so he founded AZK in 2008 and also the Handexpress newspaper S&G, which stands for Stimme und Gegenstimme.
This gives you the opportunity to hear both sides, not just one side of the public service media.
And then people without censorship - anti-censorship - can speak to a large audience.
Because Dad has never been able to present his side in the public media.
SRF, for example, has always slandered him, always!
And the other media too, but not a single rebuttal from him has ever been broadcast or printed.
We really do have whole folders of counterstatements over there.
And since then, we have already held a total of 20 anti-censorship coalition conferences, at which 90 speakers have spoken.
And the first AZK had around 40,000 views online.
And the 20th AZK has already had 4.7 million views.
So you see, there is a strong growth curve.
And it was precisely from this that Kla.TV was born.
Because every single presentation gave us a better understanding of what is actually
going on here and what is happening in the world.
And so, since July 2012, we have been broadcasting every day what the media have been concealing.
You wanted to hear a few more names with dates who were at the AZK.
We have David Icke from the year 2024, Heiko Schöning, Prof. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi 2023, Ernst Wolff 2019, Andreas Popp, Eva Herman
2019, Gerhard Wisnewski 2018, Heiko Schrang 2018 - all greats, Jürgen Elsässer 2014, 2015,
Dr. Daniele Ganser 2014, Jo Conrad 2009, ...
- Yes, there's more that could be said, but this is just a small glimpse.
How do OCG members get involved with AZK and Klagemauer.TV?
Yes, simply as volunteers in all areas.
Around 1,800 people who do not belong to OCG are involved in AZK and Kla.TV.
But I can openly admit that there are OCGers everywhere in the most important places because they are binding.
This distinguishes OCGers from other contributors, because OCGers give us a handshake that we can count on them.
So they enter into a commitment, that's what we call it.
And that's exactly why there is a new program every day at 7:45 pm on Kla.TV.
And this is only possible because OCG liaisons support and coordinate this at the key points.
But it's organized in such a way that it's not always the same people who are fully occupied.
There are regional "scoop wheels", as we call them, where a different group publishes the programs on
Kla.TV and in social media every day, for example.
That's the principle of how we work. And so, for example, a cut-out is used once every one or two weeks.
But without the commitment of these dear people, who you can count on, there would be no
Kla.TV, no AZK and none of the many other start-ups.
And yet everyone chooses voluntarily where they want to contribute and how much they want to
contribute. But then you count on each other.
And I have to say this at this point, for me the OCGers are the most precious people under this heaven.
I am a fan of them, I love and adore every single OCG member who has simply remained loyal and
committed even in these storms and persecutions.
We live this New World completely without money, in absolute harmony.
And everyone says "thank you" to each other at the end and at every opportunity. I think that's simply the best!
What are the main topics and important projects of Klagemauer.TV?
So at Kla.TV we have divided all the topics into twelve main categories.
So education, upbringing, health, medicine, ideology, culture, media, politics, justice, laws, terror,
environment, technology, knowledge, economy, science.
And we have the same focus in all of these areas, namely to reveal the top masterminds behind the crimes - by name.
Because I say the conclusion from the 20 AZK's and all Kla.TV programs is that it is one and the same octopus
with different tentacles - here you can see that represented, which is strangling this world.
In every issue where great injustice is committed, the same people are always behind it,
i.e. if you go right up to the top echelons.
Or the same groups are involved. And we call it "The Head of the Octopus", at least internally, right?
And that is the focus of Kla.TV. We want to get to the bottom of things.
And we don't digress into the details, but show the common threads where the same
groups of people are always pulling the strings.
Proportionally, there are very few of them, but they have really infiltrated all areas, and
we prove this with our well-researched programs.
And we also have really good research teams for every subject area, who name the horse and rider, show the entanglements
and, above all, the flow of money that connects everything.
And so it is our turn to create such complete overviews.
You are still asking about important Kla.TV projects.
So we want to secure our Kla.TV archive with over 20,000 programs all over the world.
I made a rough estimate of how much these programs are worth.
If you then convert all the investments made by all the contributors to Kla.TV since its creation
into cash, this is likely to far exceed one billion.
And it's really important to us that we file all this important research everywhere, all over the world.
And so you can switch off the Internet, but everyone has Kla.TV offline on their hard disk at home.
And if you want to take part here, you can log on to www.kla.tv/offline. Everything is described there.
The principle is that everyone passes the archive on to two people and they pass it on to two people again.
And so it spreads mega fast all over the world!
And on April 5, by the way, you can also get this treasure at kla.tv/mitwirken.
And if you want to register for this campaign, you can also contact us at
www.kla.tv./workshop and we will get in touch with you.
Yes, so much for a very, very important project that we are currently working on.
To what extent does the faith community influence the program content of Klagemauer.TV, and are there any taboo topics?
So the faith community only influences Kla.TV to the extent that I've just told you.
So Kla.TV is largely supported by these people who live and believe the way I said before. But that's all.
The program will be designed according to the focal points, as I have just explained, in order to highlight these major
red threads of world events and to reveal these masterminds.
There are no taboo subjects at Kla.TV, not at all.
We even let a dissenting voice have its say on the nature of the earth.
Someone has actually presented 200 arguments, some of them real studies, as to why he thinks we are being lied to.
And we think we should listen to him too. We have so many narratives in our heads that we never
question, even though we have never checked them ourselves.
And it's okay to hear a dissenting voice from time to time.
Especially when you remember that the most important evidence videos have all been deleted from YouTube and the internet.
Well, I can say there are many free media and educational outlets that have taboo topics, but Kla.TV definitely does not.
Because we are truly independent. We don't give a damn if people laugh at us.
We don't have to worry about donations. We don't even have to worry about a reputation or anything else.
We simply bring what the mainstream conceals and censors, and we want people to think for themselves.
Stefan Theiler: Name me three Kla.TV documentaries that every committed truth seeker should have seen,
because other alternative media report too little about them.
In my view, the alternative media still report far too little about the dangers of mobile phone radiation.
There are thousands of studies that have proven the harmfulness of mobile communications even in the days of 2G and 3G.
And now with 5G, it has become even worse.
For example, the documentary "5G Apocalypse - The Extinction Event" by Sacha Stone is a highly
recommended documentary that everyone should have seen.
Because the founders of this technology warn that it is a weapon of war.
And here it is important that we report truly independently.
Without fear of losing donors or sympathizers just because everyone is so in love with cell phones right now.
Because nothing changes in terms of the dangers. You have to hear that.
I also have the hashtag for this topic here: "5G mobile communications".
I say, the Romans also liked to drink from their lead cups.
They shone so beautifully and were relatively cheap to make.
And there were already ancient scholars who recognized the harmfulness of lead and warned
against it. But they just didn't listen, did they?
Today, the use of lead has long been banned in everyday objects.
Because it has been recognized that it can have serious health consequences. So much for mobile communications.
Another very recommendable program for me is: "Geoengineering uncovered", the whistleblower Kristen Megan unpacks here.
In my opinion, everyone should have seen these four minutes.
It's all about weather manipulation and chemtrails. And this is a whistleblower talking.
We have already translated this program into 30 languages.
And it has already been viewed over 6 million times. A must for everyone!
The third thing I would recommend is my own documentary series on the "blood cult".
This is about satanic-ritual child abuse.
This is really the most terrible topic under this sky ever!
And then I made this three-part series on the blood cult.
And in it I gave 384 victims and 212 witnesses a voice that is not heard in the public media.
Not any more, I have to say. ARD, ZDF, NDR, they all used to report on it.
But in recent years, this topic has simply disappeared more and more from public broadcasters.
And that is what prompted me to tackle this terrible topic.
In Switzerland, for example, SRF stopped broadcasting its own documentary on the subject of
satanic-ritual abuse just one and a half years ago.
At the highest level of SRF. And at the last minute, they suddenly turned things around.
But that was a long-standing SRF director, that was Ursula Brunner, who made this movie.
And here's the thing: the film was financed by the Swiss, by us, with 75,000 francs of Serafe money, and SRF received a
total of 125,000 francs from the public purse for it, right?
The same thing happens at the "20 Minuten" newspaper and at many other media outlets.
It also happened, as many victims in Germany, Switzerland and all over the world tell us.
So the journalists at the lower level, they do brilliant work, do great research - and then at the very
top, at the highest authority, it's stopped afterwards!
And it really is a tough subject, but you simply have to look and listen to the victims!
Because they all say the same thing independently of each other, all over the world!
And that is that very cruel things happen in well-organized structures that are networked worldwide.
All the victim witnesses agree on this, and that they are covering for each other, from the judiciary
and the police and from all the important authorities.
Yes, and then at some point I realized that the very same people who were criminalizing my father and slandering him as a brutal
cult boss were the same people who were constantly covering up these terrible atrocities, on TV and in the
media, and even denying them and mocking the victims.
And this is simply a topic that is fortunately becoming more and more prevalent in the alternative scene.
That wasn't the case before. But I have produced a total of ten programs on the subject, and I
have actually already reached 13.6 million views.
This is definitely a major breakthrough for this difficult topic, where you would prefer to
look away. So much for the third topic, yes.
Do you notice a certain reluctance within the civil rights movement to work together with
Kla.TV or at least to tackle projects together?
So that's actually getting better and better, I have to say.
I just mentioned that there is hardly a name that has been dragged through the mud more than that of my father Ivo Sasek.
But the more people wake up and see where the real sect is based, the better they will understand why
Papa of all people is being pelted with so much mud.
And because he's not the only one getting the dirt thrown at him.
And then it just snaps into place in more and more movements. And I'm glad about that too.
This also improves cooperation more and more, because more and more people see through
this dirty game that is being played here.
But also what we do for this humanity and what great prices we pay for it.
And I'm really glad, I have to say, that more and more people are understanding these connections
and that this cooperation is improving as a result.
And there is simply only one, for us and for all of us:
We have to keep at it until the destroyers of the people are completely unmasked.
And let them sling mud all they want with their bought media and these billion-dollar PR agencies.
We simply take them on - without money. Like David against Goliath. All together!
And you are also making a huge contribution!
I would also like to thank you from us, with kind regards.
Your boss, what was his name again? Christoph Pfluger.
He is an outstanding example, a gigantic role model.
What has he not already achieved?
There we have once, he is the editor of "Zeitpunkt" magazine, founder of "Friends of the Constitution".
He is also the founder of "Corona Transition TV" and the "Movement for Neutrality".
Maybe I've forgotten something else. It's like my father.
I don't think I could list everything he founded in five minutes. It's similar with you.
In any case, we will all win together, because justice always prevails!
On which issues would you like to see the individual civil rights movements work better together?
Yes, I wish we could pass on explosive research to each other.
For example, if someone has exposed another one of these masterminds, i.e. the head
of the octopus, we'll let each other know.
Because that's how a complete overview of this gang is created, I say.
My father had already produced some really great research with hundreds of contributors.
For example with this program , where the horse and rider are really named, with lodge
affiliation, with all the evidence of their evil crimes.
Exactly the same in this documentation here.
This is our current focus, where we also ask for help or cooperation.
Because anyone who finds such connections here is welcome to contact us.
And I also want to say something about that. Our IT people are working on a really great idea, or rather on tools
like this, so that we independent media can work together better and share our research with each other.
That would be my wish and we are already working on it.
What can other civil rights movements learn from you, OCG, Kla.TV?
So I think that unpaid service, I would say, if no one were to charge others for their work, as the OCG
does, then the whole movement would grow much faster.
Then not everything is always about money, then there is much less potential for division, much
less bureaucracy, and it's simply about the cause.
What you could also learn from the OCG is, of course, this great treasure of commitment.
So when you can really rely on each other and not just "I'm here", "I'm not here", sometimes like this, sometimes like that.
Dad has always said that every movement should call for its own commitment.
Yes, I think you could learn that from us, perhaps.
Perhaps an interim question, when I go to events, be it "Graswurzel", "Aletheia" or "Zeitpunkt",
"Verfassungsfreunde", the average age is always around 60.
Is it similar for you, or are you a bit younger?
Hahaha. We have everything. We have socials clicks, for example.
They make socials channels where they feed all social media with our shorts and programs.
There are people in there from 13, 14, 15 years old up to 60 years old and they are a clique together.
So and everything in between, of course. 40, 50, there's everything. That's very special for us at the OCG.
The range is really from youth to old age - and all one heart and one soul!
When you are so full of success, you share it with each other.
Now the young ones have just had their breakthroughs, then the older ones again and that's all one.
What conditions do you think should be met for communities to grow?
I would say that the most important thing is unity within the team. That you don't allow yourself to be divided.
Because they are really trying to destroy all these movements by deliberately sowing division - media attacks, slander and so on.
And from my point of view, it is important to always look ahead and not be tempted to listen to these slanders, allow
yourself to be divided or somehow chase the devil's rabbits.
So in the sense that you then don't start getting into a scuffle with these detractors.
Simply ignore them, continue unperturbed, don't pay any attention to the attacks, don't attach any weight to them.
And even if there are defeats or you lose people, just keep doing good!
Look to the future. Do not allow yourself to be separated.
And in the end, the fruit will show who does what and who has what it takes.
And even if someone is running their mouth about the movement, you don't have to concentrate on it or be distracted by it.
Because that's sometimes particularly difficult, but it's super important.
And in a team, it's also particularly important that you never talk about someone behind their back or about each other,
but always approach each other directly, because that way the unity remains and the atmosphere is always full of energy.
Because this way you can achieve more success and the movement will grow inexorably.
I am fully convinced of that. And that would be my advice.
So don't let unity be destroyed for anything in the world!
And I really have to say that the OCG has been mega tested, again and again by media hype.
And some were dismissed by their employer because we were so slandered.
And I can only praise the OCGers, who simply refuse to be divided, stand by us faithfully and stick together.
There is always only love for each other. There is only ever one home.
And that is the most important thing for me!
Because then you feel good, and then people feel good too, and then they want to be a part of it. So you grow.
You have had the opportunity in the past to meet members of the OCG at rallies or symposia.
Are there any other occasions where people can get to know you from Klagemauer.TV/OCG?
Yes, so as I just mentioned, you can register for April 5th, for example, where we're giving away the Kla.TV archive.
So where everyone passes it on to two, and they then pass it on to two again.
That would be a good way to get to know us. You can register at www.kla.tv/workshop.
But another occasion would be May 3, for example.
There is our annual Friends Meeting, where you can also take a look behind the scenes, where you can get to know us as the OCG,
get to know local groups, because we meet locally everywhere.
And you can register at www.kla.tv/vernetzung and add the note "Freundestreffen".
Yes, thank you! Then hopefully there will be new bridges between different groups, including yours.
I was very pleased that you took the time. Thank you very much, Lois Sasek!
Thank you and good luck for the future! Together we will break through!
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