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"Jahilci ko rashin sani shi ne rashin iko."

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Mutane ba su da iko saboda ba su fahimci
kamuwa da cuta ba, ko kuma ba su fahimce ta yadda

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ya kamata ba. Kuma ba za su iya gane ƙarya ba.

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"Matsalar ita ce cututtukan kamuwa da cuta na iya zama
masu matuƙar riba, abin da mafi yawan mutane ba sa sani."

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Ina maraba da Prof. Dr. Bhakdi da Dr.
Köhnlein cikin armashi zuwa hirarmu ta Kla.TV.

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Muna farin cikin maraba da ku sake dawowa.

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Dukkansu sun kasance masu jawabi a taron adawa
da takura kan batutuwan lafiya masu muhimmanci.

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Kuma ku biyun ne ma suka fara yin magana a matsayin
kwararru a lokacin rikicin coronavirus, a lokacin da babu

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ɗayanmu da ya iya fahimtar abin da ke faruwa a kewayenmu.

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Suka bayyana daga baya a Kla.TV, a ranar 15
da 30 Maris 2020 – a cikin shirye-shirye da

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aka nuna , sai kuma aka yi musu karin hira.

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Ga masu kallo da ba su san ku ba tukuna: Dr. Köhnlein, kai
ƙwararren likitan cikin gida da likitan wasanni ne, kuma ka yi

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aiki tsawon shekaru a matsayin likitan cikin gida a ofishinka.

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Farfesa Dr. Bhakdi, kun horar da ɗaliban likitanci tsawon
shekaru a matsayin farfesa kuma shugaban Cibiyar Nazarin

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Kwayoyin Cuta da Tsafta a Jami'ar Johannes Gutenberg a Mainz.

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Kai ne edita-in-chief na mujallar likitanci Medical Microbiology
and Immunology, kuma ka karɓi lambobin yabo

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marasa adadi saboda bincikenka, ta haka ka ƙara wa
fahimtar mu ta asali game da tsarin garkuwar jiki.

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Kai da matarka (Far. Bhakdi) kun wallafa sabon
littafi tare da Dr Reiß mai taken: "Fahimtar kamuwa da cuta

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– maimakon tsoronta. tatsuniyoyi, ruɗani da gaskiya"

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Tambayata ta farko: Farfesa Bhakdi, me
ya motsa ka ka rubuta wannan littafi?

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To, na wallafa littafi tare da matata shekaru goma da suka wuce.

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An kira shi "Ruhun cututtuka: tatsuniyoyi, ƙarya da gaskiya."

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Kuma mun rubuta littafin a wancan lokacin
saboda na yi ritaya, kuma matata ta ce mini:

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Ya kamata ka rubuta darussan ka ga jama'a.

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Komai da mutane a wannan ƙasa suke so
kuma suke buƙatar sani game da cututtuka.

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Wato gaskiya, sannan nuna abin da ba gaskiya
ba, wato tatsuniyoyi. Kuma hakan ne na yi.

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Kuma wannan littafi ya kasance a kasuwa na tsawon shekaru goma.

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Ba a sayar da shi sosai ba, amma babu damuwa.

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Amma a ciki, na gabatar da taƙaitaccen bayani game da duk muhimman
cututtukan kamuwa da cuta a wannan ƙasa. Yadda ake hana su.

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Me ya sa wasu kwayoyin cuta da ƙwayoyin virus
ke da haɗari? Me ya sa sauran ba su da haɗari?

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Ta yaya suke sa mu rashin lafiya? Kuma ta yaya za mu hana hakan?

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Kuma hakan lallai ya haɗa da tattauna batun rigakafi.

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Don a magance batun rigakafi gaba ɗaya ga kowa.

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Sai COVID-19 ya zo. Kuma don taƙaita labari:

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Bayan shekaru biyar na COVID-19, na gane cewa abin da
muka rubuta a littafi na farko ya kamata a sake bitar sa.

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Kuma da gaggawa. Saboda a fili ban
isar da wata sahihiyar ilimi ba a can.

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Na yi kuskure. Saboda ban yi karatu yadda ya kamata ba.

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Na koyar da wannan darasi fiye da shekaru ashirin.

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Sai a lokacin na gane cewa akwai abubuwa na
asali da ban gane ba, abubuwa da ba su daidai ba.

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Kuma ka sani, mahaifiyata ita ce malamar farko ta.

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Ita likita ce. Kuma ta gaya mini lokacin da
nake ƙarami – na san cewa ina so in zama likita.

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Ta ce, "Za ka zama likita. Ka tuna,
likita bai kamata ya ji tsoro ba. Komai ba."

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Abu ɗaya kawai, wato yana yin kuskure.

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Faɗin wani abu ba daidai ba dangane da maganin likita.

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Kuma idan ka yi haka, dole ne ka tabbatar ka gyara shi.

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Kuma shi ya sa na gaya wa matata cewa
dole ne mu sake wallafa wannan littafin.

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Kuma muna buƙatar yin wasu gyare-gyare
domin ya samar da matakin ilimi da ya dace.

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A wancan lokacin, mu da shi Klaus (Dr.
Köhnlein) abokai ne, abokai na kusa.

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Kuma na ce, akwai mutum a nan wanda ya nuna shakkar sa game
da wannan batu shekaru da dama da suka wuce, kuma ga shi nan.

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Kuma koyaushe yana daidai. Shin ba za mu
tambaye shi ko yana son shiga tare da mu ba?

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Kuma haka ne abin da ya faru. Sai ya ce, "Eh, tabbas!"

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Don haka shi ne marubucin na uku na
sabon littafin, wanda aka buga jiya da jiya.

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A matsayin likitan ciki, ban yi yawa aikin alluran rigakafi ba.

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Ban fara tunanin alluran rigakafi ba har sai mun sami yara.

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Kuma 'yata ta farko za ta karɓi allurar
rigakafin BCG nan da nan bayan haihuwa.

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Sa'an nan na ce da jin kai: Ba ma son yin hakan yanzu.

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Da gaske ban ga tarin fuka-fuki a matsayin barazana ga 'yata ba.

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A lokacin, ban san cewa an yi wani bincike kan allurar rigakafin
BCG ba inda suka gudanar da gwaji mai sarrafa

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placebo don gwada allurar rigakafin BCG,
abin da ba kasafai ake yi ba a fannin rigakafi.

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Wannan ya faru ne a Indiya, inda suka yi rigakafi ga babbar jama'a
kuma suka bar wata babbar jama'a ba a yi mata rigakafi ba.

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Kuma sakamakon ya kasance cewa mutanen da aka yi musu
rigakafi sun sami ƙarin kamuwa da cutar tarin

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fuka-fuka ta BCG fiye da mutanen da ba a yi musu rigakafi ba.

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An buga shi sosai a mujallar The Lancet a
ƙarƙashin taken "Mummunan Labari daga Indiya".

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Kuma ina ganin ya ɗauki ƙarin shekaru 13
bayan wannan wallafa kafin likitocin yara na

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Jamus su shirya daina ba da wannan rigakafi.

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Kuma 'yata ta farko har yanzu za ta samu ta.

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A lokacin na biyu, na zama mai tsanani, don
haka na tambaya, yaya game da rigakafin BCG?

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Ya dawo da martani cikin bacin rai:
A'a, ba mu yi hakan ba tun da dadewa.

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Da kyau sosai. Mu koma baya.

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Tsawon ƙarni, cututtuka da kamuwa da
cuta sun kasance barazana ga bil'adama.

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An samu annobobi: barazana, kolera da
tarin fuka-fuka su ne manyan sanadin mutuwa.

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Sa'an nan, a farkon ƙarni na ashirin,
waɗannan cututtuka suka ragu kwatsam sosai.

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Kuma a yau, tuka mota ya fi haɗari fiye da, misali,
kamuwa da mura mai ɗumi ko ma tetanus mai ban tsoro.

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Amma tsoron cututtukan da ake yaduwa bai ragu ba,
kamar yadda muka gani a lokacin annobar coronavirus.

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Za ku iya gaya mana wani abu game da dalilin da ya sa haka yake?

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To, matsalar ita ce cewa cututtukan kamuwa da cuta,
abin da mafi yawan mutane ba sa sani, na iya zama

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masu matuƙar riba kuma su samar da riba mai ban mamaki.

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Game da cututtukan kamuwa da cuta, koyaushe ana yin
aunawa na antibodi, ana yin aunawa a dakin gwaje-gwaje,

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kuma a yau ana amfani da magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta.

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Kuma wannan shi ne batun da ya sa na shigo cikin fage.

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A wancan lokacin, matsalar cutar kanjamau ce ta
fi zama haɗari saboda yawan magani fiye da kima.

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A gaskiya, a lokacin, ya kasance kawai mummunan lamari na ACT.

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Wannan maganin hana ƙwayoyin cuta ne, wanda ya shiga kasuwa
cikin yawa fiye da kima, maimakon maganin matsalar AIDS kanta.

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A gaskiya hakan ya faru ne kawai saboda ƙananan zagaye.

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Amma batun cutar AIDS, kamar yadda na
ce, ya kasance babbar masifa ta ACT.

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Kuma tun da hakan ba haka yake ba yanzu, abubuwa sun yi shiru.

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Amma CDC, hukumomin kula da cututtuka,
sun ƙare da cututtuka a wancan lokacin.

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Kuma AIDS ya kasance kamar igiyar ceto, a ce.

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Bayan cutar shan inna da ƙurajen bera, babu abin da ya rage a yi.

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Sannan sai "pneumoniya ta masu halartar
taro" , wadda aka yi mata ƙaryataccen girman kai

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har ta zama annoba, alhali ba annoba ba ce.

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Kawai tarin tsofaffin sojoji ne, wadanda ba su da lafiya sosai,
suna taruwa, suna yin biki, suna shan giya da shan taba sosai.

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Kuma daga baya, wasu kaɗan daga cikinsu sun kamu da pneumonia.

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Amma daga baya CDC ta zo ta gano wani kwayar cuta da ba a sani ba
a da, ta ba shi suna na hankali "Legionella pneumophila" kuma ta

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sanya shi a matsayin sanadin cutar
Legionnaires, duk da cewa ainihin sanadin shi ne raunin

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tsarin garkuwar jiki na waɗanda abin ya shafa.

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Kuma wannan gabaɗaya shine matsalar cututtukan da
ake kamuwa da su: ba za su iya cutar da mu ba

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muddin tsarin garkuwar jikinmu ke aiki yadda ya kamata.

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Kuma idan ya raunana, abu makamancin haka na iya faruwa.

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Sa'an nan za ka iya kamuwa da cuta.

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Kuma musamman a kan cutar AIDS, idan aka yi
amfani da magunguna ba bisa ka'ida ba, za a

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iya samun abin da ake kira cututtukan damar.

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Waɗannan su ne cututtuka da za ka kamu da su ne
kawai idan tsarin garkuwar jikinka ya sauka ƙasa-ƙasa.

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Eh, ina so in ƙara wani abu a kan hakan.

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Matsalar ita ce cewa manyan annobobi sun faru ne
saboda kwayoyin cuta da suka iya yaduwa cikin sauƙi sosai.

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A ka'ida, akwai hanyoyi biyu kawai
don yin wannan: ko da ruwa ko da iska.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa a yanayin yaduwa ta iska, ana
yada shi daga mutum zuwa mutum ta hanyar atishawa da tari.

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A lokacin da annobar ta kasance, mutanen da ke da ita sun yi tari
a kan wasu, kuma kwayoyin cuta suka bazu zuwa gare su ta iska.

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Yanzu an san hanyoyi da tsarin yawancin
cututtukan kamuwa da cuta masu matuƙar muhimmanci.

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Mun san cewa dole ne a yi wa ruwa magani, kuma shi ya
sa babu ƙarin zazzabin ruwa. Babu ƙarin zazzabin ruwa.

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An san cewa idan wani ya yi atishawa kuma yana
da cutar bubo, to dole ne a ba mutumin da aka

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atishawa a kansa magungunan kashe kwayoyin cuta.

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Babu annoba yanzu, domin mun san yadda ake yada annoba,
wato ta beraye da ƙuƙunta, kuma inda babu beraye, babu annoba.

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Idan akwai annoba da magungunan kashe
ƙwayoyin cuta, ba za a iya yada annobar ba.

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Sai dai, wannan yana nufin cewa saboda an
san hanyoyin, ana san yadda ake hana wani abu.

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Kuma wannan hana ba koyaushe yana haɗa da yin
allurar rigakafi ba, sai dai a wasu lokuta kaɗan ƙwarai.

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Ina so in fayyace abu guda:

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Ba haka bane cewa, saboda tetanus ya zama mai
wuya a samu a nan, misali, ba shi da haɗari.

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Tetanus har yanzu yana da haɗari kamar
yadda yake shekaru ɗari da suka wuce.

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Kamar yadda yake haɗari. Kuma idan
ya faru, mutane suna cikin haɗari.

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Don haka, yanzu na zo kan wani batu mai matuƙar muhimmanci,
wato rigakafi. Me ya sa dole ne mu sake dubawa sosai?

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Domin na gane da kaina cewa ginshiƙai uku da dole ne a
gina shawarar yin allurar rigakafi a kansu – kafin a

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bayar da irin wannan shawara – su ne: Na farko, buƙata.

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Yaushe ainihin ake buƙatar yin rigakafi?
Lokacin da cuta ta kasance ainihin barazana ga rai.

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Idan cuta ba ta zama barazana ga rai ba, babu
buƙatar yin rigakafi. Kuma ya kamata ka bar ta haka.

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Ba za a rasa ginshiƙi ɗaya ba. Ginshiƙi na biyu shi ne tasiri.

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Inganci yana nufin cewa dole ne a rage yawan mutanen da
ke da ciwo mai tsanani da kuma wadanda suka mutu sosai.

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Yanzu ka yi tunanin muna da wani cuta da ba ta jawo mutuwa ba.

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Ko ƙanana sosai har ba za a iya samun wani ragi ba kwata-kwata.

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Alal misali – measles misali ne mai kyau ƙwarai, a gefe guda
– mutanen da suka mutu daga measles a baya sun mutu ne saboda

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dalilai iri ɗaya da mutanen da suka mutu daga mura suka mutu.

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An kamu da su da ƙwayoyin cuta. Wannan ƙarin
kamuwa da ƙwayoyin cuta ne ya kashe mutanen.

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Amma ana iya magance wannan ƙarin
kamuwa da kwayoyin cuta sosai a yau.

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Kuma shi ya sa, a ka'ida, babu mutuwa daga tarin fuka a
cikin mutanen da ke samun kyakkyawar kulawar lafiya da

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kuma mutanen masu lafiya da tsarin garkuwar jiki na al'ada.

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Shi ya sa ba zai yiwu a auna fa'idodi ba.

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Kuma inda babu riba, akwai haɗari kawai.

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Kuma koyaushe akwai haɗari idan ka yi rigakafi. Koyaushe.

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Domin, kamar yadda Klaus ya ce, waɗannan alluran rigakafi ba abu
guda ɗaya ba ne, amma koyaushe su ne haɗin

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sinadarai da dama, kuma wannan haɗin koyaushe
yana ɗauke da sinadarai masu yiwuwar zama haɗari.

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Kuma duk wanda ya ƙi yarda da wannan, a
ka'ida, ya kamata nan take a hana shi inganci .

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Ba a yarda ya ba da shawara ko yin
shawarwari kan allurai na rigakafi ba.

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Domin idan babu wata amfani, kuma ina nufin idan amfanin ya zama
sifili, game da coronavirus, kamar yadda muka sani a yau

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kuma kamar yadda aka tabbatar, haɗarin mutuwa ga mutanen
da ke ƙasa da shekaru 65 kusan sifili ne. Kusan sifili.

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Idan amfanin ya zama sifili, to duk wani haɗari, ko
ɗaya cikin miliyan ko ɗaya cikin tiriliyan, idan aka

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raba shi da sifili, sakamakon zai kasance marar iyaka.

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Ni ɗan Thai ne. Eh, na koyi hakan a makaranta.

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Komai da aka raba da sifili ba shi da iyaka.

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To, rabo tsakanin haɗari da fa'ida ba shi
da iyaka. Kuma hakan ba a yarda da shi ba.

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Don haka. Dole ne a nuna tasirin, kuma kamar yadda Klaus ya ce da
kuma yadda muka bayyana a cikin littafin, za a iya

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nuna tasirin ne kawai idan kana da adadin mutanen da
suka mutu da rigakafi da wadanda ba su yi rigakafi ba.

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Kuma waɗannan ƙididdiga ba sa wanzu ga
kowace allurar rigakafi a duniya – ga kowacce.

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Yanzu mu koma kan batun daidaito.

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Ba a nan da tetanus. Amma zan iya gaya maka cewa a
Duniya ta Uku, a Afirka, a Thailand, akwai tetanus.

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Kuma na kasance a Thailand a wani asibitin rigakafin
tetanus, na ga mutane suna mutuwa cikin azaba saboda tetanus.

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Cututtuka na biyu da rigakafi zai
iya taimaka mata ita ce cizon kare.

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Kuma ina faɗin wannan ne domin ya bayyana cewa shi da ni da
matata ba mu nan a matsayin masu adawa da yin rigakafi ba.

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Ba mu masu adawa da alluran rigakafi ba ne, amma muna cewa
rigakafi yana da ma'ana sosai idan akwai buƙata, domin yawan

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kamuwa da mutuwa yana da matuƙar girma – tetanus sama da kashi 50
cikin ɗari, kowane mutum na biyu da ya kamu da tetanus zai mutu.

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Cututtukan hauka a yau kusan kashi ɗari cikin ɗari ne ke kashewa.
Wannan na nufin cewa duk wanda ya kamu da cutar hauka zai

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mutu idan ba a ɗauki mataki ba, kuma babu magani da ake da shi.

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A zahiri, allurar rigakafi tana nan a nan, ga
dukkansu biyun. Kuma wannan allurar rigakafi tana da tasiri.

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Kuma shi ne abin da muke ba da labari a
kai kuma muke bayyana a cikin littafinmu.

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Don haka dole ne ya kasance a bayyane ga kowa
lokacin da ake ba da shawarar yin rigakafi – eh.

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Kuma ba kawai eh ba, muna ba da shawarar shi da duk zuciyarmu,
domin zai iya ceton rayuka – kuma, a gefe guda, dole ne.

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Idan likita bai san cewa ana iya yin rigakafin
tetanus ba – kuma, fiye da komai, yadda ake yin rigakafi.

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Kuma a nan, kamar yadda aka bayyana a cikin littafin, ba
allurar rigakafi kaɗai ake yi ba kamar yadda ake yi a

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nan, da maganin rigakafi da ke ƙarfafa samuwar antijini.

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Akwai kuma abin da ake kira rigakafin ɓoye.
Wannan ya haɗa da ba da antibodi da aka riga

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aka yi daga mutanen da aka yi musu rigakafi.

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Kuma ana samun waɗannan antibodi don tetanus
da cizon kare. Kuma suna aiki, suna aiki sosai!

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Kuma waɗannan a zahiri ba su da
mummunan illa saboda sun kasance masu tsarki.

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Suna da antijolin da aka tsarkake, babu wani ƙari.

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Don haka, ina so in bayyana a fili cewa ban
adawa da yin rigakafi ba, amma ina cewa dole

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ne rabon haɗari da fa'ida ya kasance daidai.

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Ka keɓe babi bakwai na littafinka ga batun alluran
rigakafi, waɗanda gabaɗaya ake ɗauka a matsayin babbar

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nasara kuma makami mafi ƙarfi wajen yaki da kamuwa da cuta.

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Kun riga kun taɓa wannan. Kuma waɗanda ke
goyon bayan yin rigakafi za su yi jayayya

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cewa duk cututtukan da ake yaduwa suna raguwa.

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Ko wannan ba hujja ce cewa
rigakafin yana aiki yadda ya kamata ba?

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Eh, wannan muhimmin batu ne, wanda ni ma nake son tattauna.

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Bayan na yi nazari kan batun rigakafi, na ci karo da
littafin Mista Buchwald, wanda ke da taken mai sauƙi

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kuma mai sauƙin tunawa: "Rigakafi – Kasuwancin Tsoro".

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Kuma Buchwald ya yi aiki mai sauƙi sosai kuma mai dawwama a nan.

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Ya tsara dukkan bayanan kididdiga da Ofishin Kididdiga
na Tarayya ya samar game da cututtukan da ke yaduwa,

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sannan kullum ya yi alamar ranar allurar rigakafi a saman su.

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Sannan sai ya bayyana sosai ga kowace cuta mai
yaduwa cewa raguwar gaggawa a yaduwar cututtuka

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koyaushe ta faru ne kafin a fara shirin rigakafin jama'a.

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Wannan yana nuna sosai cewa raguwar cututtukan
da ake yaduwa ba ta samo asali ne daga tasirin

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rigakafi ba, sai dai daga wasu matakai daban.

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Kuma wannan kawai shi ne mafi kyawun salon
rayuwa da muke da shi a zamanin bayan yakin.

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Hakanan za ka iya ganin a fili yadda cutar
tarin fuka ta tashi da sauka a shekarun yaki.

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Don haka wannan yana da alaƙa da cewa mutane suna fama
da yunwa, suna jin sanyi sosai kuma suna rayuwa a

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cikin mummunan yanayi, wanda ya ba cututtuka damar yaduwa.

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Yanayin rayuwa ya kasance mai muhimmanci, yanayin rayuwa.

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Eh.

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Kuma masana'antar magunguna tana cewa akasin haka. Tana cewa
muna da wannan yanayi mai kyau ne saboda muna yin rigakafi.

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Amma bayanan ƙididdiga sun yi ƙaryar haka a fili, don haka wannan
hujja, wadda ake yawan amfani da ita daga ɓangaren adawa, cewa

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masu adawa da allurai ko masu sukar allurai su ne
mutanen da ba sa son zamantakewa kuma ke cin gajiyar

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wasu ba tare da biyan diyya ba, a zahiri ba ta da tushe.

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Fiye da komai, yanzu mun ga a kan allurar rigakafin coronavirus
cewa ba ta kare wasu mutane kwata-kwata, don haka wannan

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karin magana da ake ta yadawa ba shi da tushe kwata-kwata.

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Manufar rigakafi ita ce samar da antibodi.

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Wannan ana tsammanin hujja ce cewa allurar rigakafi ta yi aiki.

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Wannan abin da mutane ke faɗa ne.

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Eh, shin wannan ne ma muhimmin batu
idan ana maganar kariyar garkuwar jiki?

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A'a, tabbas rashin sani ne a ce komai ya dogara ne akan antibodi.

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Menene antibodi? Ta yaya suke aiki? Kuma
yaya tsarin garkuwar jiki ke aiki gabaɗaya?

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Babu wanda ya sani, domin ba a
kusan koyar da shi a fannin likitanci.

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Likitoci suna zama likitoci ba tare
da samun ilimin asali na rigakafi ba.

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Tun da na koyar da wannan darasi daga A zuwa Z na fiye da shekaru
ashirin, daliban Mainz sun yi matuƙar sanin abubuwa da yawa,

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in ba haka ba ba za su ci jarrabawar ba. Suna san hakan ma.

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A'a, akwai bangarori da ginshiƙai daban-daban na
tsarin garkuwar jiki, kuma mun bayyana su duka.

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Ba su da yawa, amma kana buƙatar saninsu.

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Sune antijini, sannan kuma su ne ƙwayoyin lymphocytes .

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Kuma a taƙaice, antibodi na iya aiki ne kawai wajen
yakar guba saboda guba ƙanana ne kuma antibodi ma ƙanana

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ne, kuma antibodi na iya tsoma baki guba idan suna nan.

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Wato, gubobi da ke cikin jini,
saboda antibodi suna cikin jini sosai.

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Don haka, yana aiki ne kawai idan guba ta shiga ta hanyar jini.

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Misali, gubar da kwayar tetanus ke samarwa.

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Kuma a nan ne antijini za su iya kama su kuma
dakatar da su, ma'ana za su tsaya ba za su ci gaba ba.

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In ba haka ba, antibodi na iya dakatar da
ƙwayoyin cuta ne kawai idan suna cikin jini.

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Duk da haka, yawancin ƙwayoyin cuta suna
shiga jiki ta hanci, hanyoyin numfashi ko hanji.

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Kuma shi ya sa babu wata hanya ta gaske don kare
tabarmar huhu, bututun huhu, huhu kansu, ko ma

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bututun ciki da hanji ta hanyar allurar rigakafi.

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Shi ya sa, kamar yadda na fada shekaru biyar da suka wuce,
mutane, babu wani amfani kwata-kwata a ƙoƙarin yin rigakafin

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cuta mai tsoka ta numfashi idan antibodi suna samarwa ne a
cikin jini saboda suna a ɓangaren da ba daidai ba na bango.

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Ba za ka iya dakatar da shi ba, kuma yanzu mun san haka ne.

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Cewa wannan rigakafi ba zai taba hana kamuwa da cuta ba.

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Eh. Ana sake tattauna allurar rigakafin
measles da Jens Spahn ya gabatar a halin yanzu.

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A can ma, alama ce cewa antibodi ba sa
bayar da gudunmawa sosai wajen kariya.

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Eh, mun ambaci hakan ma a cikin
littafin. An sani tsawon shekaru 50.

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Akwai mutane da ba za su iya samar da
antibodi kwata-kwata ba. Wannan nakasa ce ta gado.

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Kuma an sani cewa waɗannan mutane suna kamuwa da mura
ta yau da kullum kuma koyaushe suna warkewa kamar kowa.

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Ba sa mutuwa. Haka kuma ba sa yin
rashin lafiya mai tsanani. Ko da kadan.

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Kuma wannan shi ne hujja, bayyanannen alama ce cewa
ƙwayoyin lymphocytes, wato ƙwayoyin fararen jini, ne ke

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da alhakin kawar da kamuwa da ƙwayoyin cuta na virus.

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Eh, kuma ba a auna waɗannan ƙwayoyin fararen
jini ba. Ka fahimta? Saboda allurar rigakafi.

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Saboda yana da matuƙar wahala, kuma banda haka,
ba zai yi wani amfani ba, domin suna nan

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koyaushe. Wannan shi ne wani abin da muke gaya musu.

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Game da ƙwayoyin cuta, waɗannan ƙwayoyin fararen jini ba
su da alhakin kowace ƙwayar cuta guda ɗaya, sai dai suna

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gane nau'in ƙwayar cuta da dukan danginta a lokaci guda.

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Kuma shi ya sa ake kare mu. Yayin da muka fi
yawan fuskantar kwayoyin cuta daban-daban a

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lokacin yarinta, kariyar mu tana ƙara faɗi.

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Shi ya sa duk wannan banza game da hana
cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta a cikin yara dole ne ya tsaya.

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Kuma me ya sa kake tunanin an gabatar da wannan
tilastaccen allurar rigakafi ne musamman don cutar dundumba?

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Ban sani ba. Ina zargin gwaji ne don ganin yadda jama'a
za su mayar da martani ga tilastawar allurar rigakafi.

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Saboda an kuma tattauna tilastaccen
allurar rigakafin coronavirus daga baya.

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An riga an shirya hakan.

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Wataƙila an riga an shirya shi. Wata irin
gwaji ce ta buƙatar allurar rigakafin cizon

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sauro – wanda ba shi da wani amfani kwata-kwata.

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Don haka, kamar yadda na ce, kamar yadda Sucharit ya riga
ya ce, a wancan lokacin babu mutuwar saboda cizon ƙurjewa.

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Adadin kamuwa da cuta ma ya kasance ƙasa ba tare da dalili ba.

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Don haka ba a san dalilin da ya sa cutar daji, daga cikin duk
abubuwa, aka kwatsam a tilasta ba. Ko kuwa ba shi da ma'ana.

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Eh, a wannan fanni, wannan doka a zahiri ta zama ci gida, domin
a ƙarshe ƙwararru marasa ƙwarewa suna yin abubuwa iri-iri...

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Yi hakuri, menene kwararru marasa kwarewa?

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Waɗanda ke kiran kansu ƙwararru.

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A'a, a'a, a'a. Ba sa ba kansu lakabi, ana kiran
su kuma ana nad'a su a matsayin kwararru, eh.

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Akwai wani shiri a bayan duk wannan.
Kuma an tsara wannan shirin sosai.

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Masu tsara ba su cikin wannan
ƙasa; suna wani wuri mai nisa a yamma.

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Amma an dade ana wannan shiri, shekaru goma, shekaru
ashirin da biyar, shirin barkewar wannan cutar coronavirus.

25:46.677 --> 25:53.723
Littafin Paul Schreyer ya kamata a tilasta
a karanta shi. Ga duk 'yan jarida. Ga kowa.

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Kuma ga 'yan siyasa masu sha'awa. An shirya komai.

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Kuma ya bayyana sosai cewa a shekarar 2019, an riga
an tsara kusan gaba ɗaya wannan rikicin coronavirus.

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An yi wasan kwaikwayo a watan Oktoba
2019. Kuma tabbas ƙwayar cutar tana nan.

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Saboda ƙwayar cutar ta fito ne daga dakin
gwaje-gwaje, kamar yadda muka sani yanzu .

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Duk wanda bai san wannan ba, ya kamata a kulle shi
a cikin ɗakin karatu kuma a tilasta masa karatu.

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Saboda an shirya komai. Moderna tuni tana da
dozi 100,000 na allurar rigakafi a shekarar 2019.

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Kuma suka ce, mutane, za mu sami dozi biliyan
guda a shekara mai zuwa. Za mu iya yin hakan.

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Saƙon shi ne cewa an saki wata ƙwayar cuta wadda
ba mutane ke da tsarin garkuwar jiki a kanta ba.

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Eh. Amma wannan ba gaskiya ba ne, ko? Ba
kamar muna cikakken hannun wani kwayar cuta ba.

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Eh, shi ya sa muke sanya maski kuma muke kiyaye tazara.

27:21.968 --> 27:27.857
Wadannan ne kawai abubuwan da za su iya
kare mu – magana ce banza kwata-kwata.

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Mun ga cewa akwai kyakkyawan kariya ta asali.

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Ba su san cewa kariya daga ƙwayoyin coronavirus koyaushe
tana da faɗi ba. Saboda ƙwayoyin coronavirus suna ko'ina.

27:44.301 --> 27:52.099
Kuma lokacin da yaron ya fara makarantar rassa, yana
rashin lafiya duk bayan watanni kaɗan a cikin shekara ta farko.

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Waɗannan galibi su ne ƙwayoyin coronavirus.
Kuma tsarin garkuwar jiki ana horar da shi sau da

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yawa tare da kowace cuta, kuma yana ƙara ƙarfi.

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Na fuskanci annobar coronavirus a aikina.

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Ni ma na so in shawo kan hakan, kuma ya zo tare da gwajin.

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Da zarar an samu jarabawar, firgici ya bazu.

28:17.654 --> 28:22.841
Mutane sun shiga dakin likita suna ta hura
numfashi – amma babu wata matsala da ke damun su.

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An gano suna ɗauke da coronavirus kuma
sun ji kamar ba za su iya numfashi ba.

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Dole ne kawai in yi magana da su na ɗan lokaci in kuma
bayyana musu cewa suna da isasshen sararin numfashi.

28:31.577 --> 28:35.130
Sun yi numfashi da sauri kawai. Sai kuma ya sake lafa.

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Haka kuma akwai marasa lafiya da suka yi gwaji suka
nuna suna ɗauke da coronavirus. Amma gwajin ya ɓoye hakan.

28:40.638 --> 28:46.150
Sai na yi amfani da 'yancina na duba ƙari don ganin abin da ya
ke ainihin damun su. Don haka, lallai suna da wahalar numfashi.

28:46.150 --> 28:50.147
Ɗaya yana da pneumoniya ta klamidiya , ɗayan
kuma yana da toshewar jijiyar jini a huhu.

28:50.147 --> 28:59.985
Na uku yana da wannan cutar tsuntsun
gargaɗi wadda ke buƙatar kortisone.

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Akwai dalilai daban-daban sosai. Amma duk an
daidaita su a ƙarƙashin gwajin coronavirus, a ce.

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An yi kuskuren ganewar cuta.

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Eh, an yi kuskuren ganewar. Wanda ke da pneumoniya ta
kwayar chlamydia tabbas ba zai yi farin ciki da cortisone ba.

29:20.174 --> 29:24.736
A cikin exogenous allergic alveolitis
, cortisone shine magani da ya dace.

29:24.736 --> 29:28.306
Amma ba a yi la'akari da
bambance-bambancen ganewar ba kwata-kwata.

29:28.306 --> 29:34.143
Eh, abin ya yi matuƙar daɗi a gani a wata hira da
wani likitan huhu wanda ya bayyana yadda cutar

29:34.143 --> 29:38.010
ke ci gaba, sannan daga baya ya kamu da ita kansa.

29:38.010 --> 29:43.060
Kuma Ms Maischberger ta ce mana: "Kun yi sadaukarwa sosai,
sannan ku da kanku kuka samu shi. Ku gaya mana game da shi."

29:43.060 --> 29:49.057
Sa'an nan ya bayyana yadda cutar pneumonia ta pneumokok
(pneumonia = kumburin huhu) ke ci gaba a al'ada,

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ya kuma kammala cewa abin da ya fuskanta lamari
ne na musamman sosai na pneumonia ta coronavirus.

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Sun yi matuƙar makance a lokacin, sun mai da hankali kawai
kan gwajin coronavirus kuma suka ce shi ne zai yanke komai.

30:02.934 --> 30:06.129
Cizon zazzaɓi ya ɓace a cikin wannan lokaci.

30:06.129 --> 30:11.559
A zahiri an kusan kawar da shi domin
babu wanda ke yin gwajin mura a yanzu.

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Sai na kira likitan dakin gwaje-gwaje na, na tambaye
shi, "Fada mini, shin har yanzu ana gwada cutar mura?"

30:17.065 --> 30:23.020
Ya ce, "A'a, kai ne kawai wani lokaci." Don haka
wannan wata son rai ne a gwaji mai bayyananne .

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Ba tare da wannan gwaji ba, ba ma za mu lura da rashin
lafiya ba. Na kuma tambayi wasu abokan aiki da dama:

30:27.965 --> 30:32.860
Fada mini, kana tunanin da ba mu yi
gwajin ba, za mu lura da wani abu?

30:32.860 --> 30:38.769
Farfesa Allersberger daga Ostiriya ya ce kuma ya
yarda da ni: "A'a, tabbas ba mu lura da komai ba."

30:38.769 --> 30:42.649
Amma abokan aikina suka ce, "Eh, ka ga duk mutanen da suka mutu."

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Sai na ji rashin kwanciyar hankali gaba ɗaya.
"Shin kun taɓa samun mutuwa da yawa a aikinku?"

30:47.289 --> 30:51.605
A'a, ba a aikina ba, amma ka ga hotunan daga Bergamo?

30:51.605 --> 30:54.824
Duk abin ya ta'allaka ne ga hotunan daga Bergamo.

30:54.824 --> 31:02.092
Wannan ya bazu tsoro kuma ya sa mutane su yi biyayya.

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Amma yanzu, misali, Tom Lausen ya je can ya
ƙirga matattu, domin matattu suna nan a zahiri.

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Me kake tunanin ne ke haifar da
hakan? Me ya sa mutanen suka mutu?

31:10.879 --> 31:16.662
Eh, na yi – na farka saboda batutuwan AIDS da yawan
magani, na dabi'a nan da nan na yi duba mai zurfi –

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yaya suka yi wa marasa lafiya da coronavirus magani?

31:20.035 --> 31:24.108
Kuma nan da nan na sami abin da nake nema. A
kasar Sin, sun yi wa marasa lafiya magani da

31:24.108 --> 31:26.780
cortisone, steroids da magungunan kashe ƙwayoyin cuta.

31:26.780 --> 31:29.707
Ba ta tabbatar da kanta, in ji abin da ke rubuce a saman ta.

31:29.707 --> 31:36.404
Idan na ji cewa wani abu bai tabbatar da kansa ba, sai na
saurara sosai. Wannan yawanci yana nufin cewa ya yi lahani.

31:36.404 --> 31:44.168
Kuma na ɗauki wannan a matsayin dama don rubuta wasiƙa ga
editan mujallar kiwon lafiya ta Jamus a matsayin martani ga

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wani labari mai taken: "Har yanzu babu magani ga coronavirus."

31:49.300 --> 31:54.592
Sa'an nan na rubuta: Idan aka yi la'akari da wannan
bayanin, ina mamakin irin magungunan da a bayyane ake amfani

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da su wajen magani ba tare da wata gwaji ba kwata-kwata.

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Kuma duk waɗannan shirye-shirye ne da suka fi ko
ƙasa ko sama ƙarfi wajen rage aikin garkuwar jiki .

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Kuma idan alamun cuta suka yi kama da mura, ko kuma wani
ɓangare na su ya kasance mura, da alama ba zan so ɗayan waɗannan

32:13.194 --> 32:17.796
sinadarai ba, domin tabbas ba sa taimakawa wajen warkewa.

32:17.796 --> 32:24.020
Kuma hakika sun wallafa wasiƙar.
Amma duk da haka rubutun ya ci gaba.

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Sai kuma suka zo waɗannan nazarin WHO a ranar 1 ga Afrilu, waɗanda
suka nuna a zahiri cewa akwai karuwar mutuwar mutane sosai.

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Kuma hakan ya faru ne saboda wani sinadari da yake ɗauke da shi,
hydroxychloroquine, wanda lallai yana da matuƙar amfani idan aka

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sha shi a ƙananan ƙima, kuma zai iya zama mai
tasiri wajen maganin kamuwa da ƙwayoyin

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cuta saboda yana rage zafin gwiwoyi da ɗan jiki.

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Amma yana da iyaka mai matuƙar ƙanƙanta wajen magani, kuma an ba
da shawarar a yi amfani da shi a cikin ƙwayoyi

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masu matuƙar haɗari – suna haifar da rashin
daidaiton bugun zuciya, har ma da girgizar tsokar zuciya.

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An lura da wannan cikin sauri, tabbas, sai aka dakatar da shi
nan take, don haka sai aka samu kololuwa guda ɗaya kawai –

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wato, layin ya tashi tsaye kwana 14 bayan fara waɗannan nazarin.

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Don haka za ku iya tura masu gabatar da kara can ku nemi bayanan
lafiyar marasa lafiya da aka yi wa magani a ranar 1 ga Afrilu.

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Tabbas za su sami abin da suke nema
duk inda wannan karuwar mutuwar ta faru.

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Waɗannan su ne London, Paris, manyan birane, manyan
cibiyoyin ƙasa inda manyan asibitocin jami'a suke, da Madrid.

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Kuma eh, New York ma, amma hakan bai dace da Turai ba.

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Amma tabbas an riga an yi hakan a can a cikin
nazarin WHO, kuma hakika a New Zealand da Ostiraliya ma.

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Amma wannan karuwar mutuwar mutane ta bazu tsoro.

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Babu wanda ke tunanin cewa marasa lafiya suna
mutuwa ne sakamakon magani; a zahiri, suna

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tunanin suna mutuwa ne saboda wannan mummunar cuta.

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Kuma shi ya sa kwatsam coronavirus ya sami
suna na kasancewa sau goma fi muni fiye da mura.

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Eh. Eh, muna da shiri mai matuƙar ban sha'awa a Kla.TV game da
wannan inda za ku ga waɗannan mutane waɗanda, misali, an yi musu

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magani a Italiya, an ba su magani gaba ɗaya ba daidai ba, suka
mutu da yawa, kuma kusan babu wanda ya fito daga asibiti da rai .

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Eh, sannan kuma akwai matsalar shawarwarin tsaftar wanzar da
annoba da ke cewa ya fi dacewa a yi wa marasa lafiya intubation .

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Kuma remdesivir.

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Kuma remdesivir, magani ne mai guba sosai kuma maganin
kashe ƙwayoyin cuta ne, wanda a bayyane ake kera shi

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da lasisi a Bergamo – kamar yadda Tom Lausen ya gano.

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Don haka akwai tazara gajeru daga
masana'anta zuwa gidan kula da tsofaffi.

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Don haka, ana tsammanin duk majiyyatan a
wurin sun samu remdesivir yadda ya kamata.

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Ba don cewa an kashe ba...

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A kowane hali, bai taimaka wajen samun waraka ba.

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Baya ga SARS-CoV-2, wanda aka riga aka tattauna shi sosai
kuma da yawa daga cikin masu kallo sun riga sun san shi.

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Sai dai, akwai wasu cututtuka inda
ba a iya tantance su da tabbas sosai.

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Ka rubuta... A cikin littafinka, kana da kyakkyawan sashe
game da hepatitis C. Za ka iya gaya mana kaɗan ƙari game da shi?

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Eh, hepatitis C ta hau kan HIV, kamar yadda ake cewa.

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Dole ne in yi gajeren bayani game
da gwajin da aka yi a kan dabbobi.

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Akwai hepatitis ba A ba B, wato hepatitis
bayan juyar da jini, wanda a zahiri ba ya

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yaduwa, amma yana faruwa ne bayan juyar da jini.

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Don haka wannan ma na iya zama tasirin garkuwar jiki,
shi ya sa majiyyatan suka koma rawaya na ɗan lokaci.

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Amma masana cututtukan ƙwayoyin cuta suna
aiki kuma sun yi tunanin cewa hakan na iya

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zama wata ƙwayar cuta da ba a gano ba tukuna.

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Suka yi ƙoƙarin gano shi ta hanyar allurar jinin
marasa lafiya masu hepatitis ba A ko B ba cikin birai,

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sannan suka ajiye dabba ta kulawa a wani ɗaki daban.

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Wannan shi ne tsarin gwaji. Don haka, a gaskiya, ya kamata
su yi allurar jini ga karnukan daji daidai adadi daga

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mutum mai lafiya domin kawar da waɗannan tasirin garkuwar jiki.

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To, waɗannan birai da aka yi musu
jini ba su kamu da rashin lafiya ba.

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Sun sami ɗan ɗan tashin enzymes na
hanta na ɗan lokaci, sannan aka kashe su.

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Koda haka hanta ta kasance lafiya, ba su sami komai ba.

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Amma sai waɗannan hanyoyin PCR masu ƙuduri mai girma suka shiga
kasuwa, kuma da su suka gano wasu yankuna da ba su yi kama da na

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lambar kwayoyin halitta na dabbobin gwaji ba, suka kuma yanke
hukunci cewa wannan na iya zama ƙwayar cutar da dabbobin ke ɓoye.

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Sannan aka haɓaka wani antijini a kansa, antijinin HCV.

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Sai ya zama abin kasuwa. Da ya faru sarki na kasar Sin yana
da cutar hanta, sai aka tallata shi kuma aka sayar da shi.

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Sun ƙirƙiri antigen. Don haka suka ɗauki waɗannan yankuna na gado
a matsayin samfurin furotin, a matsayin tsarin ginin antigen.

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Kuma sun yi amfani da antigen don
haifar da antijini a wasu dabbobi.

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Sannan suka haɓaka gwaji don gano waɗannan antibodi
a cikin mutane. Wannan shi ne gwajin gano antibodi.

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Sai dai gano antijini yana nufin
ginshiƙin gini da aka gina bisa wata zaton tsari.

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Sannan suka zagaya da wannan gwaji suna duba
mutane don ganin waɗanda ke da antibodi a kansa.

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Kuma duk wanda yake da shi, yana da
hepatitis C. Wannan ita ce ma'anar, ko ba haka ba?

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Ko da ba sa nuna alamun asibiti, kamar rawaya?

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Eh, mun riga mun sami wannan lokacin jiran kamuwa da
cutar AIDS, inda ma mun sami marasa lafiya masu koshin

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lafiya waɗanda gwaji ya nuna sun yi positif ga antibodi.

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An gaya musu cewa za ka mutu bayan shekara guda – sai lokacin
bazuwar cutar ya ɗan tsawaita, sai ya zama shekaru goma – da

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hepatitis C ba su mutu kwata-kwata ba, sai ya zama shekaru talatin
– sai ka kamu da ciwon daji na hanta ko cirrhosis na hanta.

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Kuma don tabbatar da cewa ba za ka kamu da shi ba, ya kamata ka
fara shan maganin hana ƙwayoyin cuta namu

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yanzu, wanda a halin yanzu yake kashe fam
ɗari na Birtaniya (£10,000) a kowace fakitin.

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Kuma haka yake aiki. Ba sa rashin lafiya, kuma ba za
su sake yin rashin lafiya saboda maganin ba, domin

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ba a ba da shi da ƙarfi kamar yadda ake yi a da ba.

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Ana magance cutar hanta ta C da
interferon da manyan kwayoyin ribavirin.

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Mutane sun gaji kwata-kwata kuma sun yi rashin lafiya na tsawon
shekara guda, sun kamu da matsanancin rashin jini, sannan sai

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suka yi kokarin murmurewa daga gare shi, don haka ya bayyana cewa
dole ne a canza wani abu, aƙalla don rage guba a cikin maganin.

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Amma a gaskiya, koyaushe akwai kyakkyawan dalili na
rashin magance matsalolin hanta da magunguna, domin

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hakan koyaushe yana zama guba ga hanta ta wata hanya.

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Kuma a yau, mutane suna mamakin – na kasance a wani taron bita na
ciwon hanta kwanan nan – me ya sa adadin cututtukan

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carcinoma na ƙwayoyin hanta ba ya raguwa duk da ingantacciyar
rage nauyin ƙwayoyin cuta. A gaskiya, alama akwai ɗan ƙaruwa.

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Amsa mai sauƙi ita ce domin ɗaya ba shi da alaƙa da ɗayan.

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Dukkan masu shan miyagun ƙwayoyi sun yi
gwaji na hepatitis C, amma suna da dalili daban.

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Magungunansu suna haifar da matsalar guba
a hanta. Kamar yadda masu shan giya ke yi.

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Idan ka faɗi haka a taron da ke magana game da
hanta, hakan na nufin cewa barasa muhimmin abin haɗi

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ne. Don haka ba zai yi aiki ba tare da barasa ba ma.

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Don haka a zahiri, marasa lafiya masu HCV da
ke da matsaloli, a matsayin ƙa'ida, ana

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samun su ne a bazata a matsayin masu shan giya.

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Eh. Don haka wannan kuma yana dangawa magani da wata
fa'ida da ba za a iya tabbatar da ita ba kwata-kwata.

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Kuma baya ganin lahani.

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Kuma ba ya ganin lahani, eh. Littafinka ya yi
nazari sosai kan haɗarin da ake zato da na gaske.

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Don haka sau da yawa kuna yin kwatance a
can; kun ambaci waɗannan ginshiƙai uku.

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Gabaɗaya, zaɓuɓɓukan salon rayuwa. Ka ambaci masu shan giya, amma
wasu abubuwa da suka fi yaduwa sosai, kamar

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kiba da shan taba, a kididdiga sun fi muhimmanci
fiye da kowace cuta mai yaduwa a halin yanzu.

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Suna rubuta jerin can, kuma cututtukan kamuwa da cuta sun
zo ne a matsayi na biyar kawai daga cikin sanadin mutuwa.

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To me ya sa cibiyoyi kamar Robert Koch Institute
ba sa bayyana cewa mutane suna amfana sosai

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idan suka kiyaye lafiyarsu kuma suka inganta hakan?

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Maimakon haka, suna matsa kan gwaje-gwaje da
alluran rigakafi da ke ƙasan nazarin haɗari da fa'ida.

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Shin yanzu zan iya gabatar da jigon
nazari na kan ajin mulki da bauta?

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Duk al'ummarmu an gina ta ne a kan tsarin
kasuwanci na mallakar kaya... Eh, al'umma ce da aka

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gina a kan tsarin kasuwanci na mallakar kaya.

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Kuma na karanta wani abu na Rainer
Mausfeld wanda ya taɓa ni matuƙa.

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Rainer Mausfeld, babban masanin tarihinmu (a
zahiri: masanin halayyar ɗan adam) daga Kiel, ya rubuta:

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Kapitalis da dimokuradiyya ba sa dacewa da juna.

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Saboda tsarin kasuwanci na mallakar dukiya
yana sa mutane su kwace abubuwa daga hannun wasu.

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A ƙa'ida, suna son gamsar da son zuciyarsu.

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Kuma son arziki, halin ɗan adam da yake da wahalar
hana shi, yana sa masu arziki su so su ƙara arziki.

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Kuma don yin hakan, dole ne su ci gaba
da kwace ƙari da ƙari daga matalauta.

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Kuma mun kai ga wani mataki inda yanzu dole su kwace komai daga
duk duniya domin kiyaye matsayinsu a matsayin masu mulkin duniya.

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Kuma abin da suke yi shi ne su kwace ɗan adamcinmu, iyawarmu a
matsayin 'yan adam, su kuma tilasta mu biya kudin albarkatunmu.

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A wannan yanayin, alluran rigakafi da magunguna ne ke
tantance ƙarshen rayuwarmu. Wannan tunani ne matuƙar hauka.

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Dole ne in fitar da wannan daga zuciyata yanzu, domin
na gani kuma na fahimci hakan ta hanyar nazarin

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littattafai daban-daban kan tarihi, siyasa da tattalin arziki.

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Kuma duk mutanen da na yi magana da su a wannan fanni tsawon
shekaru, ya bayyana cewa akwai matuƙar yiwuwar cewa masu mulki –

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kuma ba su a Jamus ba, suna wani wuri a Yammacin Duniya – sun
gano fannina, fannina na cututtukan kamuwa da

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cuta, a matsayin wata sabuwar, mai ƙarfi,
kuma mafi ƙarfi a duniya, don ƙarfafa mulkinsu.

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Domin tare da waɗannan, suna da masana su,
ƙwararru, kuma yanzu suna da WHO. Duk abin yana wuri guda.

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Kuma yanzu mutanen Jamus da Turai sun ba WHO iko, iko na
yin duk abin da suke so. Kuma shi ne abin da suke yi yanzu.

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Za su iya ayyana annoba duk lokacin da suka ga
dama, kuma da haka za su iya – duk lokacin da suka

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ga dama – bayar da umarnin matakan da dole ne a bi.

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Ana hukunta shi da doka idan ba ka yi haka
ba, hukunci, mafi muni daga cikin hukunci.

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Kuma wannan kayan aiki yana cin gajiyar jahilcin mutane, domin
ilimi iko ne, yayin da jahilci ko rashin ilimi rashin iko ne.

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Mutane ba su da ƙarfi saboda ba su fahimci
kamuwa da cuta ba, ko ba su fahimce ta yadda

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ya kamata ba. Kuma ba za su iya gane ƙarya ba.

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Kuma ba su gane cewa a cikin waɗannan ƙarya an
saka mafi munin ƙarya ta dukkan lokuta, wato

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ƙaryar game da alluran rigakafi na kwayoyin halitta.

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Eh, ba zan faɗi ƙari ba, amma zan ce ɗaya daga cikin manyan
manufofin wannan hira shi ne ja hankalin dukkan ƙaunatattun 'yan

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adam na cewa a gaskiya muna tattauna wannan batu a cikin littafin
ta yadda duk batutuwa ke samun magancewa

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cikin sauƙi ga duk wanda ke da hankali na yau
da kullum. An rubuta komai cikin sauƙi sosai.

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Sun yi aiki mai ban mamaki.

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Kuma mun ce wa kanmu, idan babi ɗaya a cikin wannan littafin ya
zama dole ga duk 'yan jarida, ga duk likitoci, ga duk lauyoyi su

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karanta – zan bar 'yan siyasa a gefe a yanzu, wataƙila ba shi da
amfani – to wannan babi ne, mai shafuka takwas

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kawai, game da alluran rigakafi na kwayoyin halitta
– mafi girman haɗari ga ɗan adam a kowane lokaci.

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Sai na yi magana da Mista Kopp, kuma nan da nan ya ce "eh", za a
iya bayar da wannan babi kan "alluran rigakafi na

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gado" daban a shafin yanar gizo don saukewa
kyauta ga duk wanda zai iya karanta Jamusanci a duniya.

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Kuma haka ne abin da ya faru. Don haka, tsawon kwanaki biyu
yanzu, kun sami damar karanta wannan babi

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kyauta. Ba ku biya kobo ɗaya ba; abin da kawai
kuke buƙatar zuba jari shi ne awa ɗaya na karatu.

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Kuma ba za ka buƙaci fiye da awa ɗaya
ba don shafuka takwas. Haka sauƙi ne.

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Wannan yana ba ka wata dama wacce watakila ta
keɓaɓɓe, don ka tashi tsaye ka kare kanka da masoyanka.

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Domin abin da kawai kuke bukatar yi shi ne ku ce "a'a"
da murya ɗaya ku hana 'yan siyasa ba wa WHO wannan iko!

47:04.042 --> 47:10.304
Kuma idan suka yi haka, to ka ce
"a'a" duk da haka, ka ce ba za mu yi ba.

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Ka ga yadda kake azabtar da miliyoyinmu.
Saboda su ma ba za su iya yin hakan ba.

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Don haka na kuma fahimci ma'anar wannan littafi gaba ɗaya, wato
juya mutanen da aka mayar da su ba su da ikon yanke shawara da

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kansu zuwa 'yan ƙasa masu ɗaukar nauyi, domin su fahimci, aƙalla
a taƙaice, menene cututtuka masu yaduwa, menene

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matakan kariya, yadda ya kamata a yi la'akari da su,
da yadda za a dawo da dangantaka mai kyau tun farko.

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Na yi tunanin cewa an yi hakan da kyau sosai a cikin littafinta.

47:39.972 --> 47:44.520
Don kuma faɗi a can cewa kimiyya taimako ce wajen yanke shawara.

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Ba sabon Allah ba ne. Ba addini madadin ba
ne, wanda aka kafa shi a wani ɓangare don haka.

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Wanda ake kira ƙwararre zai iya sanar da abin da
mutane ya kamata su yi da abin da bai kamata su yi ba

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domin kada su mutu. Kuma za ka ga cewa ba gaskiya bane.

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Amma dole ne in maimaita abin da ka ambata.

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Hakika muna mutuwa daga cututtukan
zuciya da jijiyoyin jini da kuma ciwon daji.

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Kuma cututtukan da ke yaduwa ba sa taka
muhimmiyar rawa a cikin kididdigar mutuwar mutane.

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Ana yaduwa da akasin haka koyaushe, kamar dai
cututtuka masu yaduwa su ne barazana mafi girma a gare mu.

48:20.015 --> 48:23.388
Yanzu an fi haskaka shi saboda coronavirus.

48:23.388 --> 48:28.941
Amma duk shekara ana sake jaddada cewa mutanen
da za su mutu sakamakon mura suna gab da

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mutuwa – ana ta jimami mutuwa 30,000 sakamakon mura.

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Idan ka kalli da kyau, babu ɗayansu da gaskiya kwata-kwata.

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Maimakon haka, waɗannan 30,000 ko 40,000 kawai su ne bambancin
tsakanin mutuwar lokacin rani da mutuwar lokacin sanyi.

48:44.399 --> 48:48.683
Duk da wane dalili, mutane da yawa suna mutuwa a lokacin sanyi.

48:48.683 --> 48:59.512
Kuma duk abin da ya rage bayan wannan cirewa ana ɗauka kawai a
matsayin mutuwar mura domin sake inganta allurar rigakafin mura.

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Kuma idan ka duba Cibiyar Robert Koch don ganin adadin mutanen da
suka mutu daga mura – kuma mura cuta ce da dole a sanar da

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ita, don haka lambobin suna da tabbaci – za ka ga adadi mai
lambobi uku. Don haka kusan babu wanda ke mutuwa daga mura.

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Don haka, an yi sanarwar, kuma ana maimaita ta
a kowane lokaci: ku yi allurar rigakafin mura,

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domin in ba haka ba mutane 30,000 za su mutu.

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Muna cewa mutuwa ta al'ada da mutuwa tsarkakke
ne kawai za a iya danganta su da mura, waɗanda

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suke kimanin 300, 400, wani abu makamancin haka?

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100 zuwa 200 – a kowane kakar. Eh.

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Amma dole ne a gane cewa wannan allurar
rigakafin mura, wanda tasirinsa ake tantancewa ta

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auna antibodi, ba shi da ma'ana ko da yaushe.

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Wannan ƙaramin sigogi kaɗai ba a rage shi sosai ba.

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Eh, ina nufin, ana cewa tasirinsa kusan kashi 50
cikin ɗari ne, yana canzawa tsakanin kashi 40 da 60

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cikin ɗari. Ku manta da shi, mutane. Ba komai bane.

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Ba za ka iya yi wa miliyoyin mutane allurar
rigakafi mai yiwuwar haɗari ba domin rage martanin

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antibodi da kashi 50 cikin ɗari. Shin kana hauka?

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Sau da yawa ina ganin marasa lafiya da ke
kamuwa da mura bayan sun yi allurar rigakafin mura.

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Tabbas.

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Amma haka ake fahimta idan na gaya masa, "Kana da mura."

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A'a, likita, hakan ba zai yiwu ba. An yi
min rigakafi. Dole ne wani abu ne daban.

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Eh. Don haka, za mu iya taƙaita kawai.

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A cikin littafinka, ka rubuta cewa kamuwa da cuta na
iya zama haɗari. Amma a yau ba su zama abin gama-gari ba?

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Ba kullum ba.

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Ba kullum ba. Akwai kawai wannan gangan na tsoratar da
jama'a da 'yan siyasa da kafofin watsa labarai ke yi.

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Suna cewa hakan saboda dalilan
kapitalis ne, amma watakila akwai wasu.

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Kimiyya a zahiri jagora ce.

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Kana mayar da wannan a gaba, cewa ya
kamata mu gano asalin abubuwa sosai.

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Wannan yana faɗin abin da yake da
muhimmanci da abin da ba shi da muhimmanci.

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Ba za a yi wa wasu bayanai ƙima
fiye da kima ba, a manta da sauran.

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Kar ka yi babban dutsen daga ƙaramin ƙura,
kuma kar ka yi ƙaramin ƙura daga babban dutsen.

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Kuma mutane ya kamata su sake samun damar
yanke shawara da kansu bisa ga cikakken sani.

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A ƙarshen kowanne babi game da rigakafi, koyaushe
suna ƙarfafa kowa ya nemi bayani sannan ya yanke

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shawara da kansa, kuma kada a taɓa amfani da tilastawa.

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Domin, kamar yadda ka ce, kayan aikin masu iko ne.

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Shin akwai wani abu da kake son faɗa wa masu kallo kafin mu ƙare?

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Sai dai, tabbas, shawarar sayen littafinka.

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An rubuta shi da kyau sosai, yana da matuƙar sauƙin fahimta.

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Na iya fahimtar shi sosai cikin 'yan kwanaki
kaɗan. Ya kasance abin jin daɗi a karanta.

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Amma dole ne in faɗi da gaskiya, bana so
wannan ya zama shirin sayar da littattafai, eh.

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Ba mu rubuta littafin ba ne domin mutane da yawa su saya.

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Mun rubuta shi ne domin mutane da
yawa gwargwadon iko su karanta littafin.

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Yadda za ka samu littafin ya
dogara da kai. Ba lallai ne ka siya ba.

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Amma dole ne ka tambaya, a ɗakunan
karatu misali, idan kana son aro littafin.

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Kuma abin da muke matuƙar fatan shi ne cewa littafin zai kuma ja
hankalin wasu sana'o'i, kamar malamai – malamai

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suna da matuƙar muhimmanci a wannan ƙasa,
suna buƙatar ƙarin sani game da cututtuka, lallai.

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Domin abin da suke yi yanzu a makarantu, ko abin da suka yi a
baya, rashin alhaki ne ga 'ya'yanmu. Wannan ba abin karɓa ba ne.

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Kuma kawai yin imani da duk abin da ya fito daga wani
ma'aikatar gwamnati ko wani hukuma ba hanya ce zuwa

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makoma mai cike da bege ba. Wannan makoma ce marar bege.

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Mun so mu ba da bege. Kuma da wannan littafin,
mun so mu ba ku ilimi, mu sa iko a hannunku.

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Yadda ake samun iko – sai ka
karanta littafin kawai, shi ne kawai.

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Kuma don Allah aƙalla ka karanta
babin da ba ya buƙatar biyan kuɗi.

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A gefe guda, watakila kalma ɗaya ta
ƙarshe. Muna cikin wata ƙungiya mai suna MWGFD.

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Kuma wannan ƙungiya taro ne, ƙungiya ce ta ƙwararrun ma'aikatan
lafiya da masana kimiyya, dukansu masu magana da Jamusanci ne.

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Kuma mun sadaukar da kanmu – komai na son rai
ne, babu ɗayanmu da ke karɓar kobo ɗaya a kansa.

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Kuma su likitoci ne da masana kimiyya matuƙar ƙwararru.

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Shi (Dr. Köhnlein) ma ya kasance
cikin wannan lamari tsawon shekaru.

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Mun kafa kuma mun kammala kafa Cibiyar Nazarin
Cutar Arne Burckhardt. Shi ma memba ne na ƙungiyarmu.

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Kuma ka san cewa ya yi aikin farko.

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Aiki da yanzu kwatsam ake ganinsa a duniya
baki ɗaya. Dukkansa ya fito ne daga Jamus.

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Da Arne Burckhardt ya mutu, muna cikin rikici.

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Ba mu sami damar yin ƙarin gwaje-gwajen patholoji ba.

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Amma mun kafa wani dakin gwaje-gwaje don wannan
manufa, mai suna Cibiyar Gano Cutar ta Molekyula.

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Kuma ana gudanar da shi ne ta hannun mambobin ƙungiyarmu.

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Don haka, a farko ƙungiyarmu ta kasance ƙungiya
marar riba, amma shekara guda bayan haka, a

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shekarar 2021, an soke matsayinmu na marar riba.

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Wannan yana nufin ba za mu iya bayar da rasit na
gudummawa ba. Wannan ƙungiya tana dogara ne akan gudummawa.

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Za mu yi matuƙar farin ciki idan za ku yi la'akari da
bayar da gudummawa ga ƙungiyar da Cibiyar Inmodia .

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Wannan shi ne abin da zai sa ni farin ciki sosai.

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Na gode ƙwarai da gaske da aikinku a kan wannan babban littafi!

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Eh, na gode ƙwarai da gaske sake don wannan hira.

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Ina fatan za a yada shi sosai!

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Goodbye.

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