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Molo babukeli abathandekayo, namhlanje samkela
umongameli wentshukumo i-MASS-VOLL!, uNicolas Rimoldi.

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MASS-VOLL! – intshukumo yenkululeko,
ubukhosi obuzimeleyo namalungelo asisiseko.

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Namhlanje sithetha ngento ekuthiwa
yi-E-ID kunye noMthetho we-E-ID.

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Wamkelekile, Mnu. Rimoldi!

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Enkosi kakhulu ngesimemo.

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Ungathi amagama ambalwa nceda kwabo bangekazi nto
ngale nto okwangoku – yintoni kanye kanye i-e-ID,

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luhlobo luni lomthetho? Ungayicacisa ngokufutshane nceda?

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NgoDisemba ophelileyo, iBhunga leFederal
kunye nePalamente bagqibe kwelokuba isazisi

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se-elektroniki ngoku masingeniswe kumntu wonke.

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Ube ulumkisa nge-e-ID ukusukela ngo-2017,
kwaye ngomhla wama-28 kuSeptemba kulo nyaka,

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abantu baseSwitzerland baza kuvota ngalo mthetho.

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Ucinga ukuba yintoni etshintshileyo
kule minyaka isibhozo ukusukela ngo-2017?

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Ngelishwa, kakhulu. Inyaniso yokuba iindlela ezintsha zetekhnoloji
zingasetyenziselwa ukwandisa ulawulo lwezwe olujongileyo

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ayisiyonto intsha kwaye ibe sobala iminyaka emininzi.

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Ngale ngongoma, kwiminyaka esibhozo eyadlulayo, xa
ndandineminyaka engama-22 ubudala, ndalumkisa ukuba ukuba

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amakhadi ezazisi angaze afakwe kwidijithali, kungabakho
ukwanda okukhulu kokubekwa iliso nokulawulwa kwabo bonke abemi.

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Kule minyaka isibhozo idlulileyo, le
nkxalabo iye yangqineka ngakumbi njengenyani.

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Kwaziswa izithintelo nemiqathango engakumbi nangakumbi ngakumbi.

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Iinkqubela ezintsha kwilizwe elibeke iliso, iintlola
ze-inshorensi, amagunya angakumbi kwiinkonzo zobuntlola, izixhobo

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ezininzi zokubeka iliso ngokubanzi, zonke
ezi zinto zenzeka ngenxa yetekhnoloji entsha

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kunye nenkqubela phambili kwezobuchwepheshe.

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Kwaye ke ngo-2020/2021, kwalandela izithintelo zentsholongwane
yomkhuhlane ezingalunganga ngokobuntu ezazibandakanya

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izatifikethi, iilockdown, ukugonywa
okunyanzelekileyo, kunye nokucenzwa okukhulu kwimidiya

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yoluntu ngealgorithms ezintsha ezixhaswa yi-AI.

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Kwaye ngoku, emva kweminyaka esibhozo, sikwimeko yokuba siza
kwazisa ukunyanzeliswa kwedijithali, nesazisi sedijithali.

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Kwaye yiloo nto kanye isiseko esingundoqo
kwikamva ekungekho mntu usafuna ukuphila kulo.

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Ikamva elilawulwa ngokupheleleyo kukubekwa iliso
nokulawulwa, ukufundiswa ngokutsha kunye

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nokunyantyezwa okukhulu komntu ozimeleyo – umntu ngamnye.

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Ngoku sivile kumajelo eendaba ukuba i-MASS-VOLL! sele
idini kwaye nibe isiba ireferendamu. Yinyani na loo nto?

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Ndicinga ukuba besiya kwenza into engalunganga
ukuba amajelo eendaba amadala ebeqala ukusidumisa.

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Ngoko ke ngokuqinisekileyo besiya kube sikwindlela engeyiyo.

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Mhlawumbi, ewe.

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Into yokuba amajelo eendaba amadala asigxeka
kwaye asihlazisa ngokuphindaphindiweyo

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iyinxalenye yeshishini lemihla ngemihla. Kulungile oko.

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Kakade ke, ukusukela oko kwasekwa i-MASS-VOLL! ngoFebruwari
2021, siye sadibana kaninzi nenkcaso ngaphakathi kwenkqubo.

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Sifuna ukuyitshintsha le nkqubo size sibe
nenye entsha ebeka abemi phambili ngokwenene.

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Asikokuba amaqela ezopolitiko ukusuka
kwabaphambili ukuya kwabaphakathi ayawaphelisa

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amalungelo asisiseko, kodwa kuba ekugqibeleni kuyeka.

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Kusendalweni yezinto ukuba sibe ngumihlwa kule nkqubo.

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Inyaniso yokuba bathetha kakubi ngathi yinxalenye yesivumelwano.

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Siliqela elilwela amalungelo oluntu kwaye siye sahlala silwa
nengcinezelo. Siphikisa izatifikethi ezinyanzelekileyo,

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iimaski ezinyanzelekileyo, kunye nokugonywa okunyanzelekileyo.

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Kungoko kunengqiqo kwaye kuhambelana ukuba
nathi, njengentshukumo yamalungelo oluntu,

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sikwenze iphulo elichasene nengcinezelo yedijithali.

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I-e-ID iza nezithintelo. Xa kuthelekiswa naloo nto, i-COVID-19
iza kubonakala ngathi ngumthendeleko wokuzalwa wabantwana.

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Enkosi ngokucacisa.

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Ungacacisa ngakumbi ukuba kutheni uqalise
irhafu yoluntu echasa uMthetho we-E-ID?

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Eyona meko isisiseko kwihlabathi lanamhlanje
ikhokelela kulawulo olukhulayo kunye

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nokuncipha kwamalungelo asisiseko abemi ngabanye.

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Asikubonanga oku kwiminyaka emine okanye
emihlanu edlulileyo kuphela, kodwa nakwishumi

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okanye amashumi amabini eminyaka adlulileyo.

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Kakade ke, oosopolitiki ngoku baza kuza bathi
i-e-ID iza kuhlala ikhethekile kumntu wonke.

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Ngubani osakholelwayo kubo? Mhlawumbi akukho mntu.

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EGermany, isivumelwano somanyano lukarhulumente
kaMerz sithi wonke ummi kufuneka afumane i-e-ID.

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Kwaye sele benayo i-e-ID kumazwe amaninzi namhlanje.

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Kwaye akazange ahlale kwelinye ilizwe
ngokupheleleyo ngokuzithandela kwakhe.

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E-Estonia naseSweden, kufuneka i-e-ID ukuze wenze i-online
banking, ufumane unyango, ufumane amayeza, uhlawule irhafu,

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ubone amagredi abantwana bakho esikolweni, ube nelayisensi
yakho yokuqhuba, unxibelelane namagunya, njalo njalo njalo.

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Kwaye ngoku oosopolitiki bethu beza bathi ngokungathi
yinyani ngokupheleleyo ukuba kuseyinkonzolo eSwitzerland.

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Yinto yobuxoki nje. Loo nto kufuneka ichazwe ngokucacileyo.

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E-Austria, umzekelo, ukuba usebenzisa i-e-ID yakho
kwiinkqubo zolawulo, ufumana isaphulelo se-40% kwimirhumo.

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Le yinkululeko enyanzelisiweyo
esiye sayiqhela ukusukela ngo-2020.

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Okongezelelweyo koku yinyaniso yokuba le
nkani yedijithali iye yagqama kakhulu kulo nyaka.

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E-England, umzekelo, kufuneka
i-e-ID ukuze nje undwendwele iWikipedia.

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E-USA, kufuneka uqinisekise iminyaka yakho kwiYouTube.

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ISpotify sele isibhengeze.

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ESwitzerland, oku kuthetha ukuba ufuna
i-e-ID ukuze ufikelele kwi-online banking,

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kwi-online banking, kwanokufikelela kwi-intanethi.

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IJamani yazise imirhiso yedijithali. Amayeza
kagqirha ngoku afumaneka kuphela ngemirhiso

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yedijithali. Nangona kunjalo, le nkqubo isoloko isilela.

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Abantu abayifumani imithi yabo esindisa ubomi
kuba inkqubo imbi kakhulu ngokungenamsebenzi.

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Kufuneka siyiyeke le nto
yokunyanzeliswa kwidijithali ngoku nangoku.

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UMcebisi weFederal uRösti sele etshilo ukuba ufuna
ukuphelisa ukunikezelwa kwezincwadi yonke imihla

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aze aphinde achaze isibophelelo senkonzo jikelele.

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Kwaye iilali needolophu ezikude azisachaphazelwa yiposi.

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Njengenye indlela, ngoku ibonelela
nge-e-letter. Kwaye nge-e-letter, ufuna i-e-ID.

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Umfama wasentabeni ngoku kufuneka abhalisele
i-e-ID ukuze akwazi ukuhlawula ityala lakhe lombane.

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Zininzi kakhulu iimizekelo zoku, kuquka
eSwitzerland nakwamanye amazwe amaninzi.

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I-e-ID idala inkqubo entsha enkulu yokubeka
iliso nokulawula, apho, ngokungafaniyo

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ne-GDR, akusekho mfuneko yejenti yokukubeka iliso.

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Konke kulawulwa yi-AI.

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Udinga iiseva ezimbalwa, kwaye ubukrelekrele bokwenziwa bunokubeka
iliso kwaye bulawule abantu abangenakubalwa ngaxeshanye.

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Oko kuyingozi kakhulu.

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Kwaye kukho abantu abathi, "Ewe, oko
akundichaphazeli." Kodwa kuyabachaphazela bonke abantu.

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Oku kuza kukhokelela ngokukhawuleza kwi-ID zikagesi
ezinyanzelekileyo kwiibala zeenyawo ngenxa yobundlobongela

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babalandeli, okanye kumakhasi onxibelelwano, okanye kwezinye
izinto ezingenakubalwa egameni lokukhusela abantu abatsha.

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I-Rockstar , umpapashi we-GTA 6 , sele ibhengeze
ukuba i-e-ID izakufuneka ukuze kudlalwe lo mdlalo.

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Oku kuchaphazela yonke imidlalo. Kuchaphazela
ngokwenene onke amacandelo oluntu abathintelweyo apha.

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Kwaye oko akufanelanga kwenzeke.

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Ewe, yile ndlela eneneni oyisebenzisa ngayo ukutsala abantu
ngakumbi kule nkqubo. Emva koko ubanyanzela ukuba bayingenele.

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Umxhasi we-e-ID, uFranz Grüter, uthi ngeli xesha i-e-ID "yi-100%
yurhulumente", oko kukuthi, iqhutywa ngurhulumente kuphela.

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Abaxhasi bakwathi i-e-ID yokuqala yaliwa
ngabemi ngo-2021 kuba bengafuni ibe sezandleni

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zabucala, kodwa ibe sezandleni zikarhulumente.

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Kodwa eneneni, imalunga nenye into. Uthi ntoni ngaloo nto?

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Ndandisele ndingumntu wokuqala ngoko ke
kwaye ndalwa ne-e-ID nangaloo maxesha.

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Kum nakwabanye abaninzi, kwakucacile: asifuni kwaphela i-e-ID.

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Asikhathali nokuba kwenziwa ngabucala okanye ngurhulumente.

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Mna ngokwam, ndixhalabele kakhulu ukugxilwa kwamandla
ezandleni zikarhulumente, kuba abantu abazimeleyo

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abanamonopoli wokusebenzisa amandla – hayi okwangoku, ubuncinci.

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NgePalantir , oku kuza kwenzeka kule minyaka imbalwa
izayo. Kodwa ngeenkampani zabucala, ndinokukhetha.

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Ukuba ibhanki enye ayindifuni, ndingaya kwenye.

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Ukuba andifuni kusebenzisa iGoogle,
ndisebenzisa enye into, ndisebenzisa iGrapheneOS.

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Andinalo eli thuba lokuzikhethela kurhulumente.

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Ukuba urhulumente wazisa i-e-ID, iya kunyanzeliswa
ngokuphatha kwakhe yedwa amandla okusebenzisa ingxilimbela,

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ngesohlwayo, iinkqubo zokukreditha zentlalo, njalo njalo.

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Uphando lwasemva konyulo lukwatyhilile ukuba abantu
babexhalabile kakhulu ngokungabikho kokhuseleko lwedatha.

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Akunandaba kwaphela nokuba ivela
kurhulumente okanye kubantu abazimeleyo.

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Ngamanye amazwi, ingxoxo ephakanyiswe
ngabaxhasi yokuba abantu bafuna nje i-e-ID ekhutshwe

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ngurhulumente, imalunga nokulandela umkhondo nje.

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Amandla amaninzi kurhulumente, amandla
amancinci kubemi, njengoko kuye kachazwa ngaphambili.

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Kwaye loo nto nayo ayinasiseko kwaphela,
kuba le e-ID ayiveliswa ngurhulumente.

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Urhulumente akakwazi ukuhlawulela
inkqubo yokukhupha isazisi esikwi-elektroniki.

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Sonke siyazi ngemizekelo engenakubalwa apho
iiprojekthi ze-IT zikarhulumente, enye emva kwenye,

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ziye zasilela ngokupheleleyo – ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

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Ewe, uyayiva loo nto.

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Ngethamsanqa, urhulumente wethu akakwazi
ncam xa kuziwa kwimicimbi yedijithali.

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Oku kusinceda ukuba siphile apha
kwinkululeko ixesha elide kancinci.

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Apha, i-e-ID ikhutshwa yinkampani yabucala, eyi-ELCA Group.

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Iqela le-ELCA leliya ndoda inye engumnini weSerafe.

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Ngokwenene, ewe?

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Kwaye ke bafaka isoftware yokutshintshisana
ngemifanekiso yobuso, yokukhupha i-e-ID. Ke yona

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le nto yokuba ilawulwa ngurhulumente kuphela.

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Apha, iinkampani zabucala zenza izigidi,
neebhiliyoni ngedatha yethu eyimfihlo kakhulu.

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Kwaye i-e-ID iza kusebenza kuphela
kwizixhobo ze-Apple neze-Google.

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Kwaye loo nto isebenza njani ngokobuchwepheshe?
Ifowuni inekhamera yangaphambili. Kufuneka uzazise ngayo.

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Kwaye ukuze urhulumente akwazi nokufikelela kule
fowuni, udinga i-interface evela kwa-Apple nakuGoogle.

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Kwaye, ewe kona, abayiniki le nto
kurhulumente waseSwitzerland simahla.

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Kwaye andifuni ukuba urhulumente abe kuye wonke
umntu efowunini – ngokusesikweni nangokusemthethweni.

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Kwaye ngubani owaziyo ukuba baza kuyenza ntoni ngayo –
ayilawulwa ngurhulumente kuphela, yintsonkotha yonke.

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Iinkampani zabucala zenza ubutyebi ngayo.

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Kuthekani ngeziqu? Ngaba kukhuselekile,
okanye ingaba kubakho ubusela beziqu?

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Ewe, kulula kakhulu, kulula kakhulu.

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E-Estonia, apho i-e-ID sele isetyenziswa ngaphezu
kweminyaka engamashumi amabini, abantu abangama-750,000

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kutshanje babekwe emngciphekweni wobusela besazisi.

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Wonke umntu uyazi – kufuneka nje uvule
amaphephandaba kanye ngosuku – ukuba ezi nkqubo azikaze

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zikhuseleke ngokwaneleyo ukujongana nento enje.

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Siyibona yonke imihla, kanye njengakurhulumente
nakumkhosi, idatha iphuma ngokungekho

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mthethweni iye kwi-darknet , kwiihackers, naseluntwini.

11:23.166 --> 11:30.406
Kwaye ke, ukucinga ukuba iinkcukacha
zethu zobuqu zikhuselwe kubudenge obukhulu.

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Kuyinyani kananjalo ukuba xa uCeba weFederal uJans usandul'
ukubamba inkomfa noonondaba exhasa i-e-ID, walusebenzisa gadalala

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isikhundla sakhe sokuba nguCeba weFederal ngokuphakamisa ifowuni
yakhe ngesinye isandla kunye nekhadi lakhe lesazisi ngesinye.

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Wayefuna ukufaka ukuzithemba kubantu. "Jonga,
akukho mngcipheko, ndiza kukubonisa isazisi sam!"

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Kodwa uyifihle inombolo yecala yakhe ekoneni ephezulu
ngasekunene, kuba iBhunga leFederal liyazi kakuhle ukuba ukuba

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ngoku ndinefoto ye-ID yakhe neevidiyo zakhe ezaneleyo –
ezifumanekayo, njengoko engumntu owaziwayo – ndingasebenzisa

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ngokulula i-artificial intelligence ukwenza
i-deepfake , ndiqhathe isazisi sakhe kwaye

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ndifumane ngobuqhetseba i-e-ID egameni lakhe.

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Oku sele kuchazwe kwaye kwasetyenziswa gwenxa kumazwe amaninzi.

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Konke okudingayo ziividiyo kunye nefoto yekhadi lakho lesazisi.

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IBhunga leFederal liyayazi le nto, libonisa
isazisi salo, kodwa liyayifihla ikhowudi, inombolo.

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Urhulumente akanakuba ngcatshi ngaphezu koku.

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Oko akukhuthazi ukuzithemba kule meko.

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Hayi nyani.

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Ukuba sithatha ngokuba i-e-ID iza kwaziswa nangona kukho
iphulo, yeyiphi eyona meko imbi kakhulu enokusenzekela?

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Kulungile, kufuneka sikhumbule ukuba ivoti ingomhla
wama-28 kuSeptemba. Oko kuthetha ukuba akusekho xesha lininzi.

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Ixabiso lokuchasa ngoku liphantsi kakhulu xa lithelekiswa noko
kuza kufuneka sikuchithe size sikuhlawule

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kwiminyaka emithathu, emine okanye elishumi ezayo
ukuze sigcine nokuba yincinci nje inkululeko.

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Imali ephathekayo iza kupheliswa ngokwaziswa kwe-e-ID.

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Kuza kubakho imida ephezulu yefranse
yaseSwitzerland yedijithali, imida yobunini.

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Urhulumente umisela ukuba oku kungachithwa phi.

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Ngoko ke ukuba awukayijongi nayiphi na isatifikethi
se-coronavirus okanye ungugqirha okhuphe izatifikethi zezimask,

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ungavalela – uza kuba ngumntu ongenamsebenzi kwaye ulambile.

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Iphuzu lokuthenjwa eluntwini liyafika: kuba ngoku ungumtyholi
kwaye ndingakuzisela isonka, amanzi, ubisi ndize ndidanisane

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nawe, ndiphelelwa ngamanqaku kwaye nam ndiba ngumtyholi.

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Ngoko ke, lo ngucalucalulo, ukukhutshwa eluntwini,
olungazange lwabonwa ngaphambili, kwanangexesha

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lobhubhane we-coronavirus kuthi bantu abangagonywanga.

13:50.397 --> 13:54.265
Emva koko, ke, kukho ukuchongwa kobuso kuyo yonke
indawo, iiyure ezingama-24 ngosuku, iintsuku ezisi-7 ngeveki.

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Urhulumente uyazi ukuba wonke umntu
uphi kwaye wenza ntoni ngalo lonke ixesha.

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Kwaye ke uye uohlwaywe. Into oyipapasha
kumakhasi onxibelelwano isenokungayithandi urhulumente.

14:07.127 --> 14:12.659
Into echasene nezopolitiko zesini,
inkolo yemozulu, nokuba yintoni na.

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Ngoko ke mhlawumbi indlela yakho yokuziphatha
ayithobeli: uqhuba imoto ephetra. Utya inyama. Emva koko

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iiprimiyamu zakho ze-inshorensi yezempilo ziyenyuka.

14:20.672 --> 14:25.297
Kwaye ngoku olu luhlu lweziphumo ezibi lunokwandiswa kakhulu.

14:25.297 --> 14:31.538
Sinemithetho emitsha emininzi yentetho yentiyo –
eSwitzerland, nakwilizwekazi laseYurophu lonke.

14:31.538 --> 14:35.288
Kuzakhopha iindlela ezininzi ezintsha zokucupha ezisiza.

14:35.288 --> 14:39.840
Kwaye oko luhlaselo olusisiseko
kuwo onke amalungelo ethu asisiseko.

14:39.840 --> 14:46.856
La ngotshintsho kubomi bemihla ngemihla babo bonke
abantu, olungazange lubonwe ukusukela oko kwaziswa i-intanethi.

14:46.856 --> 14:52.791
Abantu kufuneka bazi ngale nto. Kwaye la
ngamabali oyikekayo okwenene asisongelayo ngoku.

14:52.791 --> 14:59.916
Utshintsho olupheleleyo, olusisiseko kwindalo kanye yokubakho.

14:59.916 --> 15:05.695
Akusekho inkululeko yokucinga, akusekho inkululeko
yokuthetha – leyo sele ikwimeko embi kakhulu namhlanje.

15:05.695 --> 15:09.280
Awusakwazi ukufikelela kwiNetflix okanye ukufumana iposi.

15:09.280 --> 15:11.242
Awusakwazi ukufikelela kwi-intanethi kwaphela.

15:11.242 --> 15:16.794
Uyicwangcisa njani inkcaso, wazise abantu, uqhube
imibhikisho, okanye udale – njenge-MASS-VOLL! – inkcaso

15:16.794 --> 15:19.897
yezopolitiko, ukuba oko kunokwenziwa kuphela nge-e-ID?

15:19.897 --> 15:24.641
Emva koko, ewe, isatifikethi sokugonya naso siza
kongezwa kwi-e-ID – yonke into – tutti –

15:24.641 --> 15:28.183
iiphepha-mvume zokufunda ukuqhuba – yonke into enokwenzeka.

15:28.183 --> 15:30.860
Yile nto isisongelayo ukuba asiyinqandi ngoku.

15:30.860 --> 15:38.517
Ewe, eneneni inika urhulumente amandla angakumbi
okuthatha impindezelo kubemi, abemi abangathandwayo.

15:38.517 --> 15:44.660
Imeko ngoku yeyokuba amanye amazwe sele
eno-e-ID. Amanye amazwe sele eyazisile.

15:44.660 --> 15:48.476
Unazo na iimizekelo ezimbalwa zethu? Imeko yazo ithini?

15:48.476 --> 15:54.766
Ewe, ngokuchulumancisayo, i-e-ID iza kuthi ngoku yaziswe
kulo lonke elase-EU ngo-2026, 2027, ngaxeshanye,

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ngokungathi kukucofa nje iqhosha. Iprojekthi enkulu edibeneyo.

15:59.825 --> 16:06.333
Le yinto ekhathaza kakhulu, kuba kuzo zonke iindawo apho
i-e-ID isazisiwe khona ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, ayizange

16:06.333 --> 16:10.081
ihlale iyinto yokuzikhethela. Kuya kuba njalo nakulapha.

16:10.081 --> 16:17.042
Kutshanje nje e-Austria, apho utitshala
akhutshiweyo ngenxa yokuba engafunanga i-E-ID yase-Austria.

16:17.042 --> 16:22.125
Kwathi ke ngequbuliso, "Kulungile, isivumelwano somsebenzi,
kufuneka wenze iinkqubo zokubhala umculo" – nokuba yintoni.

16:22.125 --> 16:31.846
Kulapho ke kuba yingozi ngokwenene. NamaMelika nawo ayangenisa,
kunye namaBritane namaJamani. Ngoku sele ifika kuyo yonke indawo.

16:31.846 --> 16:38.533
Ukhuthele kakhulu kweli phulo. Usenomsebenzi
omninzi ekufuneka uwenzile. Unabaxhasi abaninzi.

16:38.533 --> 16:42.400
Uyixhasa ngemali njani iphulo elinamandla kangaka?

16:42.400 --> 16:48.944
Ngomntu ngamnye. Ngokungafaniyo namaqela ezopolitiko
okanye ii-NGO, asinabo abaxhasi abakhulu bezemali

16:48.944 --> 16:52.801
abasemva, iinkampani okanye inkxaso-mali karhulumente.

16:52.801 --> 16:59.714
Yonke into esiyenzayo apha ixhaswa yiminikelo
emincinci evela kubantu, ngendlela eqala ezantsi.

16:59.714 --> 17:03.320
Ngomzamo wokuzithandela wabantu abangenakubalwa

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Yiyo nje amandla esitalato, esijoliswe
kwinjongo efanayo: ukuthintela le e-ID.

17:10.172 --> 17:14.683
Kuba ngokungafaniyo nehlabathi lonke,
singakwazi ngenene ukuyinqanda apha ngereferendamu.

17:14.683 --> 17:19.620
Akukho mntu wumbi onesi sipho. Masisebenzise kangangoko sinako.

17:19.620 --> 17:21.344
Kulungile kakhulu, ewe.

17:21.344 --> 17:27.951
Ngoku, nkqu ne-e-ID ikhona, kukho
amaqela ahlukeneyo athethelela ukuchasa yona.

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Ngelishwa, kwanakulo, la maqela, nangona
enenjongo enye, ayohlukene aza aqalisa ukulwa.

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Ingxaki yeyokuba sonke – zonke iintshukumo zokukhanyiselwa,
zonke iintshukumo zokusesitha, zonke iintshukumo zoxolo

17:47.340 --> 17:52.539
– sinenjongo enye. Oku kusibandakanya nathi apha eKla.TV.

17:52.539 --> 17:58.080
Sinyusa ulwazi; sonke sinomchasi
ofanayo, ndingatsho, utshaba olufanayo.

17:58.080 --> 18:05.004
La magunya akhohlakeleyo, afuna ukuzisa ihlabathi lonke
phantsi kolawulo lwawo olupheleleyo, asebenza ngasemva kwaye

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sele efikelele kwizikhundla zamandla phantse kuyo yonke indawo.

18:09.419 --> 18:15.093
Kwaye sifuna ukuthintela la mandla
akhohlakeleyo ekufezekiseni iinjongo zawo, sifuna

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ukuphumelela kunye ndaweni ithile phaya ngaphandle.

18:18.746 --> 18:23.824
Uwasebenzela, nathi siyawasebenzela,
kwaye nabanye abaninzi bayawasebenzela.

18:23.824 --> 18:30.069
Kodwa ukuba ezi zinyuko, ezi zinyuko zokufuna ubulungisa, ngoku
ziqala ukusebenzisana ngokuchaseneyo, nokuba, umzekelo, into

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ayihambanga kakuhle kuloo ntsebenziswano,
mhlawumbi omnye wabo okanye omnye uphathwe

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ngokungekho sikweni okanye ngokungekho mthethweni.

18:37.568 --> 18:45.470
Kodwa xa nje siqala ukugxininisa amandla ethu kungekhona kulo
sitha siqhelekileyo, kodwa ekusebenzeleni omnye nomnye, ngelo

18:45.470 --> 18:51.317
xesha siwususa amandla ethu kulo mzabalazo
uqhelekileyo wokusilwa nesi sitha siqhelekileyo,

18:51.317 --> 18:55.477
size ke, masithi, silahlekelwe ngamandla okulwa.

18:55.477 --> 19:01.559
Kwaye yiyo kanye leyo ingxaki, yokuba olu qwalu
luhlala lukhokelela ekubeni amandla esiwafunayo kweli

19:01.559 --> 19:05.728
dabi angasajoliswanga kwisitha sethu esiqhelekileyo.

19:05.728 --> 19:12.720
Kwaye ngelishwa, nathi siye
safumana oku, ngoku nakwimiba ye-e-ID.

19:12.720 --> 19:19.069
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba ngokuqinisekileyo kufuneka sikuthintele oko
ukuba kwenzeke kwaye sikwazise kuluntu

19:19.069 --> 19:24.942
malunga neentshukumo zemfundo zokuba akufuneki
siyilahle imisebenzi yethu esabelana ngayo.

19:24.942 --> 19:27.072
Ngokuqinisekileyo, kungenjalo asinathuba.

19:27.072 --> 19:34.057
Ewe. Ndingathanda nokucaphula u-Ivo Sasek kwi-AZK yama-21.

19:34.057 --> 19:40.570
Oku kuvela kwintetho ethi "Amandla oMoya asebenzisanayo".
Kuyo, uIvo Sasek utsho kanye eyona nto ibalulekileyo.

19:40.570 --> 19:46.617
Uthi: "Sonke sinye. Sonke sidlala
kumaqela afanayo. Singelinye iqela."

19:46.617 --> 19:49.508
Oko kuthetha ukuba asikho konke
konke ukhuphiswano phakathi kwethu.

19:49.508 --> 19:53.443
Akukho phikiswano phakathi kwethu,
thina abakhanyiseli abakhululekileyo.

19:53.443 --> 19:59.982
Asingabo abantu abafuna ukuzibonakalisa
bebalulekile, apho wonke umntu efuna ukuba ngoyena mkhulu.

19:59.982 --> 20:04.215
Ndithi, ukuba ndingakwenza
mkhulu, nam ndiya kuba mkhulu ngakumbi.

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Uqhubeka athi: "Singoyisa kuphela lo mchasi womhlaba
wonke wendalo ngokudibanisa imikhosi size

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sisebenzisane njengesidalwa esinye esimanyeneyo nesisebenzayo."

20:18.660 --> 20:21.156
Kuphela ngale ndlela esinokufumana ngayo ungunozala ohlala njalo.

20:21.156 --> 20:25.445
Kwaye ukuba asiphumeleli ngokubambisana, sonke siye sowela kunye.

20:25.445 --> 20:32.805
Yiloo nto ingxaki yethu. Kodwa xa siphumelela,
kungenxa yokuba sikwenze sikunye, hayi ngenxa yomnye kuphela.

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Ndicinga ukuba eso sisicatshulwa esihle kakhulu.
Sibonisa apho sikhoyo ngokwenene, ukuba siyaxhasana.

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Yiyo loo nto sixhasa iphulo lakho ngoku.

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Uyiva njani kanye le nto? Wakha waba namava anje ngaphambili?

20:44.703 --> 20:48.512
Okanye umbutho wakho wakha wahlaselwa?

20:48.512 --> 20:55.057
Ngelishwa rhoqo kakhulu, ewe, kuba kubalulekile
ukuba wonke umntu aqonde ukuba unokuphumelela

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kuphela xa usebenzisa yonke ipeni ngomzuzwana ngamnye.

20:59.021 --> 21:07.728
Ukuba unamaqhinga asebenzayo kwaye usebenzisane ngobulumko,
ngobuchule nangokungathathi cala, kuba "loo mntu"

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unamandla kakhulu, ukrelekrele kwaye yingcali koko
akwenzayo kangangokuba kufuneka nathi sibe njalo.

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Abantu kufuneka baqonde nokuba
iimvakalelo ezibucayi kufuneka zibekwe ecaleni.

21:23.063 --> 21:27.626
Kuba ungasoloko ulwa kwiibharrikade xa utshaba sele loyisiwe.

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Kodwa kuqala, kufuneka silwe ngamandla onke nxamnye nabaxhasi
bomanyano lwehlabathi kwaye simise i-e-ID ngaso sonke isinyama.

21:34.225 --> 21:39.487
Asinayo kwaphela ixesha leengxabano ezingabalulekanga
nezinye izinto ezinjalo, ngoko ke siyaziphepha.

21:39.487 --> 21:46.465
Ngelishwa, oku kusenzeka rhoqo kuthi, kodwa aba
badla ngokuba ngabantu abangakhuthali kakhulu

21:46.465 --> 21:50.541
nabonelisekayo kukushiya izimvo zobuyatha kuFacebook.

21:50.541 --> 21:57.819
Kwaye ke siyabamema ukuba bathathe inxaxheba: "Kulungile,
nithathe inxaxheba, nithethe nathi, nibenobambiswano!"

21:57.819 --> 22:01.380
size ke sihlale sikhokelela izinto kwicala elakhayo.

22:01.380 --> 22:06.802
Kuba ndikholelwa ukuba akukho mntu
ulahlekileyo. Wonke umntu ungasindiswa.

22:06.802 --> 22:11.933
Uceba ukufikelela kubantu njani uze
ubacenga ukuba bathathe inxaxheba kweli phulo?

22:11.933 --> 22:23.009
Sidibanise iphulo elikhulu, elinamandla, kwaye ngokoluvo
lwam, elihle kunawo onke esakha salenza thina apha e-MASS-VOLL!

22:23.009 --> 22:29.118
Abantu bethu okwangoku baxakekile befaka
iipowusta ezingenakubalwa kulo lonke elaseSwitzerland.

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Senze izilayitha apha ukuze sizabalalise ebantwini.

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Siye sasungula iphulo ngeelwimi ezintathu.

22:38.160 --> 22:45.615
Sinezitikha apha ngesiJamani, isiFrentshi nesiTaliyane.

22:45.615 --> 22:49.104
Sifake yonke into esinokuyenza kuyo.

22:49.104 --> 22:58.191
Ewe kona, sikwanazo neeflegi zebhalkhoni ezinoku-odolwa
nguye nabani na. Ezi nazo ziyafumaneka ngeelwimi ezintathu.

22:58.191 --> 23:01.098
Eli phulo alizukuphumelela ngokwalo.

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Eli phulo lingaphunyelelwa – ngamanye amazwi, i-e-ID
nazo zonke izinto ezoyikekayo endizidwelisileyo ngaphambili

23:07.502 --> 23:10.244
zinokunqandwa – ukuba wonke umntu uyathatha inxaxheba.

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Nabani na angakwazi ukuxhoma iflegi enjalo
ebhalkonini okanye efestileni yakhe aze

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ancamathisele izincamathelisi ezimbalwa kuyo.

23:16.408 --> 23:21.409
Ewe kona, kuphela kwipropathi yakho yabucala,
hayi kwiimoto zamapolisa okanye ezifana nazo.

23:21.409 --> 23:23.500
Nabani na angayenza. Inokwenziwa naphi na.

23:23.500 --> 23:28.349
Okanye nika umntu otshayayo
ilayitha uze umtsalele umdla kuloo vothi.

23:28.349 --> 23:39.901
Kakade ke, saphinda senze nee-T-shirt, ezinxitywa ngabantu
abaninzi ngoku kwaye ziye zaba ziibhodi zentengiso ezihambayo.

23:39.901 --> 23:47.852
Yiloo ndlela ongena ngayo ehlabathini! Kuba
awunakuphumelela kuvoto kumakhasi onxibelelwano.

23:47.852 --> 23:53.901
Kukho i-SRF, exhaswa ngenkani ngemali, eyomelele
kakhulu, kwaye ifikelela kude kakhulu kunathi.

23:53.901 --> 23:58.335
Kufuneka sifumane iindlela
zobuchule zokufikelela ebantwini ngokwethu.

23:58.335 --> 24:02.069
Kwaye ngokwenene lo ngumthwalo womntu ngamnye kuthi.

24:02.069 --> 24:08.619
Siphinde senze iflayara ngeelwimi
ezintathu. Amaphepha amathandathu, A4.

24:08.619 --> 24:14.106
Kwaye ngokwenene sinayo yonke into apho
ngaphakathi. Ngoko ke izingxoxo zikho apho ngaphakathi.

24:14.106 --> 24:22.940
Kwaye okunye okubaluleke kakhulu apha nguKarin Keller-Sutter,
osele ethembisile ngo-2021: I-e-ID ayizukuhlala ikhetho.

24:22.940 --> 24:26.409
Lo ngumongameli wethu okhoyo ngoku.

24:26.409 --> 24:33.040
Kwaye xa esithi akahlali ngokuzithandela, singakukholelwa oko.

24:33.040 --> 24:38.987
Kwaye into esiyithatha njengento
ebaluleke kakhulu yikhadi lokuvota ngo-2021.

24:38.987 --> 24:44.241
Nge-64.4%, amaSwisi athe hayi.

24:44.241 --> 24:47.557
Zonke iikantoni, zonke izizwe zathi hayi.

24:47.557 --> 24:51.123
Kwaye ungayiodola le phakheji kuthi uze uyisasaze.

24:51.123 --> 24:55.479
Ngoko ke, eyona nto ibalulekileyo apha
kukuzinikela kwabo bonke. Emva koko siza kuphumelela.

24:55.479 --> 24:59.049
Ewe, asikhulu kangako, asinamandla
kangako, kwaye asinayo imali eninzi.

24:59.049 --> 25:06.144
Abaxhasi bolu nyanzeliso, abafuna
ukuxandipha abantu baze bazuze kulo, banezigidi.

25:06.144 --> 25:12.578
Ewe kona, asinayo ingako. Kodwa ndicinga ukuba uDavid
angamoyisa uGoliath apha ukuba sinomdlandla owaneleyo,

25:12.578 --> 25:16.579
sinentando eyomeleleyo, sibalule ngobuchule kwaye silwe simnye.

25:16.579 --> 25:21.068
Kulungile kakhulu, ewe. Sele uthethe lukhulu
malunga noko umntu ngamnye anokukwenza. Ngaba ikhona

25:21.068 --> 25:23.520
enye into ofuna ukuyongeza, okanye oko kwanele?

25:23.520 --> 25:29.980
Ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile kananjalo
ukuthumela eli phetshana kuyo yonke indlu eSwitzerland.

25:29.980 --> 25:36.658
Sinethuluzi kwiwebhusayithi apho unokuxhasa
uluntu oluncinci okanye olukhulu, kwaye wonke

25:36.658 --> 25:40.809
umntu uya kufumana eli phetshana ngolwimi lwakhe.

25:40.809 --> 25:44.570
Kwaye yile ndlela onokufikelela ngayo kubantu
obungenakuze ubafikelele ngenye indlela. Kwaye ngubani owaziyo

25:44.570 --> 25:46.739
ukuba uza kufikelela bani, nokuba oko kuza kubangela ntoni.

25:46.739 --> 25:51.760
Sisenokufumana enye iminikelo enkulu. Oku kuza
kusenza sikwazi ukuxhoma iipowusta ezintsha.

25:51.760 --> 25:56.377
Kwaye yiyo loo nto kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba wonke
umntu athathe inxaxheba ngayo nayiphi na indlela anako.

25:56.377 --> 26:03.117
Ngamanye amazwi, kuboniswa ipowusta kwaye sithunyelelwa iiponti
elikhulu ukuze sikwazi ukuvelisa izinto ezintsha kwakhona.

26:03.117 --> 26:09.070
Ngoko ke ndiqinisekile ukuba singakwazi
ngokwenene ukuchasa le nkqubo icinezayo.

26:09.070 --> 26:11.707
Nokuba siya kuphumelela okanye hayi, siza kubona.

26:11.707 --> 26:16.052
Kodwa eyona nto ibalulekileyo kukuba ulwe ngamandla akho onke.

26:16.052 --> 26:21.580
Kwaye ndingathanda ukubongoza wonke umntu ukuba
enjenjalo, kuba eli lelinye lamathuba okugqibela esinawo.

26:21.580 --> 26:25.792
Kulungile kakhulu, nam ndingathanda ukuxhasa oko
kwakhona. Babukeli abathandekayo, ncedani nxhasani le phulo.

26:25.792 --> 26:29.635
Kwaye ukuba wonke umntu wenza konke
okusemandleni akhe, ndicinga ukuba singayinqanda le nto.

26:29.635 --> 26:33.081
Zihamba njani izinto kuwe buqu nakwi-MASS-VOLL!

26:33.081 --> 26:39.201
Iyasebenza. Sonwabe kakhulu yindlela sikhula ngayo
ngamandla ngokubhekiselele kubulungu, kwimpembelelo,

26:39.201 --> 26:42.728
kulwazi, ekuthandweni, nendlela sandisa ngayo izakhiwo zethu.

26:42.728 --> 26:45.490
Abantu abaninzi abaneetalente, abatsha,
nabakhuthazekileyo bayazimanya neqela lethu.

26:45.490 --> 26:47.335
Ungakubona oko nakwiitshaneli zethu zemidiya yoluntu.

26:47.335 --> 26:52.436
Sipapasha inyaniso entsha nge-e-ID apha yonke imihla.

26:52.436 --> 26:57.730
Kwaye kwiveki yesibini, iividiyo ezintathu apho
abantu abaninzi ngakumbi bethu babonisa ubuso babo,

26:57.730 --> 27:01.106
bemkela uxinezelelo kodwa bemisa nangona kunjalo.

27:01.106 --> 27:05.286
Ihamba kakuhle kakhulu.
Siyazilungiselela kwakhona imfazwe yeminyaka ezayo.

27:05.286 --> 27:10.829
UMthetho omtsha weSifo esiNtsholongwane,
ojolise ekwandiseni ngonaphakade izithintelo

27:10.829 --> 27:14.237
ze-coronavirus, ezazingenabuntu ngokwenene.

27:14.237 --> 27:19.263
Emva koko, ke, isivumelwano sobukhoboka
se-EU sisongela ukusibophelela eBrussels.

27:19.263 --> 27:24.030
Ukuba besiya kuba yikoloni nje ye-EU kwaye
singabi nako urhulumente wabantu ngabantu,

27:24.030 --> 27:26.240
nokuba iSwitzerland ingatshabalalisa isazisi sayo.

27:26.240 --> 27:28.300
Oku kufuneka kuthintelwe nangayiphi na indlela.

27:28.300 --> 27:32.098
Kuhle kakhulu. Ewe, la ngamanqaku anesibindi.
Sikunqwenelela impumelelo yonke, Mnu Rimoldi.

27:32.098 --> 27:32.540
Enkosi kakhulu.

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Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo siza kuqhagamshelana. Enkosi kakhulu
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Enkosi kakhulu. Enkosi.