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Ukuba ndingazibandakanya ngokufutshane kubabukeli bethu:

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Umi njengomgqatswa weqela elithi "The Czech Republic
First (ČR1)" kunyulo lwepalamente oluzayo eCzech Republic.

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Ndivuya kakhulu kuba uthathe ixesha loku udliwano-ndlebe.

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Mhlawumbi ungazazisa ngokufutshane nakubabukeli
bethu baseJamani nakwamanye amazwe abangekakwazi.

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Okokuqala, enkosi kakhulu ngesimemo.

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Ndingumntu oqhelekileyo ngokupheleleyo,
ndazalelwa kumazantsi eRiphabliki yaseCzech.

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Bendilitshantliziyo ekulweni ninkohlakalo
ukusukela ngo-2003, ndade ndaphumela esikolweni.

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Ngelinye ixesha phakathi kuka-2003
no-2025, ndazinikela kumlo wokulwa inkohlakalo.

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Ukususela malunga nonyaka ka-2012, ndiye
ndabandakanyeka nakwimfazwe yokulwa ukufuduka.

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Kwaye ukusukela ngo-2022, oko kukuthi
ngexesha lobhubhane we-coronavirus, ndiye

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ndalwela inkululeko namalungelo abemi namashishini.

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Ukusukela ngo-2022, bendihlela iibhikisho
ezikhulu ePrague zokukhululeka kokuthetha noxolo,

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mhlawumbi nani niziqonile kumajelo eendaba enu.

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Ewe, besiyilandela loo nto. Enkosi.
Kwa-Kla.TV, siyibona njengobophelelo lwethu ukunika

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ingxelo ngento amajelo eendaba amakhulu afihlayo.

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Yiloo nto sikumemele kule dliwano-ndlebe.

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Umi unyulo kunyulo lwepalamente
luka-2025. Ube nomdla kwezopolitiko ixesha elide.

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Bacwangcisa imibhikisho emikhulu ePrague
beyimela uxolo nenkululeko yokuthetha.

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Iintatheli zikabani zisabele njani kuwe
ukusukela oko wazisa ngokungenela kwakho unyulo?

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Okokuqala, ndingathanda ukuthi emva kokuba ndiququzelele ezi
ziboniso zikhulu eCzech Republic, ezazisuka

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zibe zezona zinkulu ukusukela kwinguquko,
amajelo eendaba aqalisa ukubhala izinto ezimbi ngam.

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Kakade ke bayandithuka bade bandihlazise, kodwa apha eCzech
Republic, iSebe leMicimbi yezeKhaya lide

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laseka isebe lalo elijongene nokusebenzisana
noluntu ngenjongo yokulawula izimvo zoluntu.

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Kwaye kanye kulo mbutho, owaziwa ngokuba
yi-"KRIT" , apho banefayile yam ekhethekileyo.

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Kwaye kanye kulapho apho iingcali zengqondo
ezisebenzela i-Home Office zagqiba kwelokuba kuyimfuneko ukuba

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zindigxeke zize zindenze ndihlazeke esidlangalaleni.

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Ngoko ke yile nto eyenzelwa ngamajelo eendaba kunyaka wokuqala.

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Emva koko, ndiye ndajongana namashushu amaninzi
asemthethweni avela kurhulumente ngenxa

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yobugebengu bezemali nokucinezela inkululeko yokuthetha.

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Xa ndathetha ndichasa amanyathelo karhulumente
okucinezela inkululeko yokuthetha, ekugqibeleni ndayiphumelela

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ityala lam phambi kweNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko ndaza ndakhululwa.

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Kodwa ndabanjwa, kwaza kwenziwa amalungiselelo okuba ndivalelwe.

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Kwaye ngoku ndijongene nelinye ityala enkundleni,
apho mhlawumbi bazakuzama ukundigweba ngezityholo

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zezoqoqosho eziyintelekelelo nje kuphela neziyilweyo.

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Ukusukela ndaseka lo mbutho wezopolitiko, amajelo
eendaba ebesithi cwaka ngam nanini na enethuba.

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Ukuba abakwazanga, njengoko kwenzeka xa ndaphumelela ityala lam
phambi kweNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko, ngokwendalo kwafuneka bayixele

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loo nto kuba zonke izikhululo zikamabonakude namapolisa bathethe
ngayo, njengoko yayisisigwebo esikhulu kakhulu, esona

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sikhulu kwiminyaka elishumi kwicandelo lenkululeko yokuthetha.
Ngoko ke amajelo eendaba kwafuneka anike ingxelo ngam.

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Kungenjalo bayazama ukundithulisa.

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Ngethuba lophulo-nkqubo lonyulo, ndavela kumabonakude waseCzech
izolo elinye elidlulileyo, kwaye umbutho

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wethu wezopolitiko wanikwa imizuzu esixhenxe
kuphela yexesha lokuthetha kulo lonke uphulo.

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Kwabo baminithi isixhenxe, umnikezeli-ntetho wathetha ngam
kangangokuba andafumana thuba lokuthetha, waza

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wandibuza imibuzo eyayingenanto yakwenza nenkqubo
yonyulo ukuze andithe cwaka kangangoko kunokwenzeka.

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Ngoko ke, yile ndlela iindaba ezinkulu eziphembelela
ngayo indlela abantu abavota ngayo eCzech Republic, akunjalo?

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Ewe.

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Isihloko sethu namhlanje yile nto kuthiwa yinkcaso elawulwayo.

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Kwiindaba ezifikelela kuluntu lonke, sihlala sisiva ngale nto
kuphela xa inxulumene namazwe afana neTshayina okanye iRashiya.

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Kodwa ithini imeko eNtshona Yurophu, kumazwe
azibophelele kwixabiso loluntu olukhethayo?

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Lithini uluvo lwakho ngalo mbuzo, Mnu. Vrabel?

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Ewe, kakade, into eboniswa esidlangalaleni yenye into.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba inkcaso elawulwayo ibonakala
kumajelo eendaba njengenkcaso yokwenene, kwaye idabi

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phakathi komanyano nenkcaso lidlalwa kumabonakude.

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Enyanisweni, nangona kunjalo, kukho le nkomfa
ekuthiwa yeyobuzwe eCzech Republic, equka amaqela amabini.

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Iqela eline ngasekunene namahlanu ngasekhohlo.

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Kwaye la manyano mabini azibonakalisa njengechasi yokwenene.

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Ingxaki yam yeyokuba xa ndandibandakanyekile kumlo wokulwa
inkohlakalo, xa ndakuxelela ukuba ndandithatha inxaxheba

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ngokukhutheleyo kuloo mlo, ukutyhila ubuqhophololo bezemali,
amakhonkco noncedo-mali lwaseYurophu kunye nokusetyenziswa gwenxa

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kwemali yoluntu, kunye nabaxhasi bamaqela ezopolitiko, aba
bapatroni basebenza kweli lizwe lethu, okanye

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ii-oligarchs ezisebenza kweli lizwe lethu, abaxhasa
amaqela ezopolitiko kunye neenkokheli zezopolitiko.

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Ndiye ndafumanisa ezinye zazo ndaza
ndazimisa ezinye zezi ntsebenziselwano.

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Ngoko ke ukusukela ngo-2005, abachasi bam bokwenene ibe
zi-oligarchs ezimi ngasemva zize ziseke amaqela

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ezopolitiko, zixhasa la maqela ukuze oosopolitiki
abakula maqela baze babaphe iikontraki zikarhulumente.

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Iinkokeli zamaphulo ezopolitiko ezizibonakalisa njengabachasi,
ukuthetha ngokomfuziselo, zisesigabeni esingaphantsi.

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Umlo wam ukuchasene nabantu ababaxhasayo ngokwenene.

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Ngoko ke, xa ndandiququzelela ezo ziboniso zikhulu kwiWenceslas
Square ndaza ndamema onke amaqela aphikisayo ukuba azokuthi,

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Bendilindele ukuba bamanyane baze baqinisekise ubuzwe
beRiphabliki yaseCzech, kodwa andizange ndazi ukuba

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ngasemva kwabo kwakumi kanye ezo zigqila zityebileyo
bendisilwa nazo, ezazixhasa iqela elilawulayo ngemali.

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Kodwa ngequbuliso kwavela kum ukuba iqela elilawulayo, elimelwe
yi-ODS namhlanje, eneneni lavela kuyo, kunye nabezopolitiko

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be-ODS, ukuze baseke amaqela amatsha othando lwesizwe.

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Kungoko luhlobo lwe-ODS-B, olusekhuthwe
ngoku ngamalungu eqela elilawulayo ngoku.

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Kwaye, kambe ke, abaxhasi abaxhase i-ODS nabayinikwa iikontraki
zoluntu yi-ODS, nto leyo ekhokelele ekubeni imali yovimba

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lukarhulumente inyamalale, njengoko ndatyhila, ngabaxhasi
ababekhe bengabo ngoku abaxhasa inkcaso enothando lwesizwe.

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Kwaye ke aba baxhasi bandibona njengoyolo
kuba ndibatshabalalisele izivumelwano eziliqela.

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Ngelishwa, uluntu alwazi nto ngale
nto, kuba ayifiki kumajelo eendaba.

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Ewe kona. Ukushwankathela: abo
banamandla ngokwenene bahlala nje belawula.

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Ucinga ukuba oku kusebenza njani eCzech Republic?

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Kanye le nto ndisandul' ukuyichaza.

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Sineemanyano ezimbini eCzech Republic nazo eziye zenza
ubuqhophololo, kuba xa zaqala iphulo lazo lonyulo kwiinyanga

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ezilithoba ezidlulileyo, zathi kuza kubakho amaqela
ezopolitiko amane ewonke, kodwa zaza zizibonakalisa

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njengeqela elinye, ngaloo ndlela zehlisa umda wonyulo.

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Ngoku iNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko iyayijongana nale nto, kwaye kukho
isoyikiso eCzech Republic sokuba uninzi lweevoti ezifakwe

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ngabavoti abathanda ilizwe labo ziya kuchazwa
njengezingasebenziyo, nokuba la magunya aza

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kuphelelwa lixesha ngenxa yokuba omabini
amanyano asekhohlo nawekunene enze ubuqhophololo.

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Njengoko benditshilo, oku ngoku
kucaciswa ziinkundla. Kwaye yile kanye imeko.

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Kwaye ngelishwa, abemi namhlanje bajongene nobuqhophololo
obufanayo okanye obufana nobo baka-1989, xa ngokwenene

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bebelindele utshintsho olungazukufika, kuba abantu abangobuso
obumelweyo bolu lwaphikiso kuthiwa lutsha, olu

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tshintsho, eneneni bangoosopolitiki abadala abavela
kwizakhiwo zamaandla ezifanayo nezo zeqela elilawulayo.

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Ewe, siyayazi loo nto. EJamani, abantu abaninzi
balahlekelwe lithemba lonke kwezopolitiko

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ngenxa yezithembiso zonyulo ezingazange zifezekiswe.

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Kwezinye iimeko, okwahlukileyo koko
kwathembisiwe phambi konyulo kuye kwenzeka emva konyulo.

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Siyayazi loo nto. Omnye umzekelo woku nguMphathiswa
wezeMali waseJamani okwangoku uMerz, othethe phambi

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konyulo ukuba akayi kuchukumisa ibhuleki yamatyala.

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Kodwa, kamsinya emva konyulo, wahlanganisa
iphakheji yamatyala yembali exabisa izigidi ngezigidi.

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Uphuhlise ingqikelelo ngalo mxholo.

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Ungasichazela ngokufutshane ngayo nceda?

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Ewe kona, ndanika ingxelo ngomqobo wetyala eJamani kwiRiphabliki
yaseCzech kwaye ndaphinda ndenza udliwano-ndlebe noPetr Bystron,

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ilungu lepalamente, ngalo mbandela kanye kwakungekaxa ukhetho.

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Le yingxaki, ewe, nakwiiRiphabliki yaseCzech.

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Ngebhadi, la maqela athanda ilizwe, njengoko ezibiza ngokuba
ngabathandi belizwe, awayethembise kwiminyaka emibini eyadlulayo

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ukuba aza kunyanzelisa ukuphuma kweRiphabliki yaseCzech
kwi-EU nakwi-NATO aze aqinisekise ukuzimela kwayo, ngokucothayo

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aqalise ukubanga ireferendamu yokuphuma kwiManyano yaseYurophu.

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Kwaye xa baqonda ukuba oku akunakwenzeka ngokomthetho, barhoxa
ngokupheleleyo ekunyanzeliseni ukuphuma kweRiphabliki

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yaseCzech kwi-EU, nto leyo ethetha ukuba ngokwenene
bazilahla iinkqubo zabo zokuthanda ilizwe nangaphambi koonyulo.

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NguFriedrich Merz, kwakwahlukile kancinci.
Wangenelisa abantu baseJamani kamsinya nje emva

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konyulo, kwanaphambi kokuba kusekwe ipalamente entsha.

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Kwaye ndinomxholo woku. Silungiselele isicwangciso
esibizwa ngokuba "IRiphabliki yaseCzech Kuqala," esiquka

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uhlaziyo oluyimfuneko lokutshintsha inkqubo yezopolitiko.

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Kwaye enye yezi nguqu zifunekayo kukukwazi
ukubuyiswa emva kwesithuba kwabezopolitiko.

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Kufuneka sipasise umthetho ochaza inani lezayino ezifunekayo
kumntu wezopolitiko ngamnye, kuxhomekeke ekubeni ngumntu

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wezopolitiko walapha ekuhlaleni, wengingqi okanye wesizwe,
okanye ukuba ulilungu lepalamente okanye ungumphathiswa.

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Kwaye kufuneka kubekho umthetho othi ukuba isopolitiki
isaphula le nto izama ukuyiphumelelisa, ukuba isaphula

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inkqubo eyayonyulelwe yona, kufuneka ikwazi ukugxothwa.

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Ndiza kuyibeka lula. Xa usopolitiki
eqhuba unyulo, uba nesibhengezo sonyulo.

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Kwaye abavoti banika oosopolitiki iivoti zabo, nto
leyo efana nokutyikitya isivumelwano somsebenzi.

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Le samathwaka yengqesho, le manifesto
yonyulo, ichaza into ezakwenziwa yilepolitiki.

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Kwaye ukuba le ndunankulu yenza enye into emva
konyulo, kuyangathi wophula isivumelwano sakhe

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somsebenzi kwaye kufuneka agxothwe emsebenzini.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ukuba abantu bafumanisa ukuba uFriedrich Merz
wathembisa ukuthobela umqobo wetyala, kodwa kamsinya nje emva

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kokunyulwa kwakhe wabiza ipalamente, eyayingasebenzi
ngokusemthethweni, waza waphula umqobo wetyala, ngoko ke

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ngokwalo mthetho, abemi baseJamani baya kutyeshela isicelo.

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Kwaye xa bebesifumene iisayini ezaneleyo,
babeya enkundleni baze babonise ubungqina apho.

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Imanifesto yonyulo kunye nokuziphatha kokwenene komntu
wezopolitiko, kunye nenkundla kunye nejuriyo yabemi –

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ndingaphawula ukuba uhlaziyo lwezobulungisa nalo luyadingeka
ukuze sikwazi ukuba neejuriyo zabemi – le

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juriyo yabemi ke ivavanya into ethembisiweyo
ngumntu wezopolitiko kunye nento ayenzayo ngokwenene.

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Kwaye ukuba ifumanisa ukuba usopolitiki uthembise into enye kodwa
wenza enye, inkundla igqiba kwelokuba uphelelwa ligunya lakhe.

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Enkosi kakhulu. Yindlela entle yokucinga leyo. Njengoko
sisandul' ukuva, izithembiso zonyulo ezingazalisekanga

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ziyinxalenye yobomi bemihla ngemihla kubantu baseYurophu.

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Ingaba kunokwenzeka ukuba izithembiso zonyulo
ezingazalisekanga ziyisu elenziwe ngabom lokudimaza

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nokutyhafisa abantu, ukuze ke kuphuliwe ukumelana kwabo?

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Andicingi njalo. Ndicinga ukuba izithembiso
ezaphukileyo zisetyenziselwa ukukhohlisa

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abavoti ukuba bavelise aba bantu bobuqhophololo.

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Ngelishwa, abemi nabavoti bakhawuleza ukulibala, yiyo loo nto,
umzekelo, owayesakuba yiNkulumbuso uAndrej Babiš, owalawula

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ngexesha lobhubhane we-coronavirus, wabetha abantu ezitratweni,
wabanyanzela ukuba bafakwe izitofu ze-mRNA

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ngobundlobongela, kwaye ngoku uphinda unyulwe kuba ethembisa
kubo, ngoku engoyena uthandwayo kunyulo kwilizwe lethu.

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Ngokoluvo lwam, lo ngumboniso apho abemi,
ngelishwa, bebelokhu bekholelwa kumntu oboniswa

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ngamajelo eendaba njengono nethuba lokuphumelela unyulo.

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Kwaye ngokwenene amajelo eendaba ngawona
agqiba ukuba ngubani odlala lo mdlalo.

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Akukho mba wokuba bonke abagqatswa babe neemeko ezifanayo apha.

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Hayi, amajelo eendaba akhetha ukuba ngubani odlalayo,
abeke abadlali bechasanisana, uze ke ukwazi

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ukukhetha kuphela phakathi kwenye into embi nenye into embi.

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Kwaye abemi bayalibala ukuba akuyomfuneko ukukhetha
okubi kancinci, kodwa kufuneka inkqubo eza kunceda ilizwe.

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Ewe. Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba inkqubo yombutho
wenu ijolise kutshintsho olucacileyo lwendlela.

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Yintoni umahluko? Abantu bangayibona njani
into yokuba awungoyena mchasi ulawulwayo?

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Kwaye zeziphi amanyathelo eniwathathileyo
ukuthintela ukungenelela kwiparty yenu?

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Ewe kona, kunzima oku ngenxa yamanyathelo okulwa
nokungenelela, njengoko iijoni eziyimfihlo

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namapolisa bephuma beza rhoqo; loo nto ayinakuphetshwa.

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Ngoko ke sinombono wokuba ngubani ophethwe ngamapolisa nangubani
ophethwe yi-secret service, kwaye sizama ukungabatyhili ngalo

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naluphi na ulwazi oluyimfihlo, kodwa oko akusoloko kunokwenzeka.

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Ngokuphathelele le nkqubo, ngokuqinisekileyo siyahluke
ngokupheleleyo, kuba apha kukho into, urhulumente, kanye

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urhulumente wama-globalist, le phiramidi yamandla eqhuba ukusuka
kwi-FED e-United States, idlule kwi-EU, kumahlakani angenzi

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ngeniso nakwityala le-globalist, kwaye kwelinye icala kukho
inkululeko yeRiphabliki yaseCzech, oko kukuthi, ukuzimela.

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Isiseko sale nto kukurhoxa kwi-EU,
kukurhoxa kwi-NATO, kukurhoxa kwi-WHO.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba nabani na onengqiqo encinci
uyakuqonda ukuba inkcaso elawulwayo iyazenza ngathi

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ikwicala labantu baseCzech, kwicala lelizwe laseCzech.

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Kodwa ekugqibeleni, usoloko esithi kufuneka kufunyanwe
isisombululo saseYurophu, ukuba kufuneka sihlale kwiManyano

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yaseYurophu, ukuba iManyano yaseYurophu
kufuneka ilungiswe, ukuba asinakuyishiya i-EU

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kuba ke asisayi kuba nampembelelo kwiziganeko.

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Ukuba asinakukwazi ukuphuma kwi-EU kuba iinkampani zethu
zingatshonela kwaye ezinye izinto ezinjalo zobubhanxa.

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I-oposisini elawulwayo isoloko itsala umdla
wabavoti ngoluhobo oluthile lwesithembiso ize

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ke kancinci kancinci isijike eso sithembiso.

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Omnye umzekelo woku yayikukuba ndaqhuba amademostreni eWenceslas
Square ndaza endakho ndathathelwa indawo

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ngomnye umntu endisebenza naye owayesaza kuba
nomthunzi omkhulu kwikhondo lam lezopolitiko.

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Wathatha ulawulo lwezibhiyozo eWenceslas Square, kwaye into
yokuqala ayenzayo xa wayebulisa abantu yayikukukhwaza esithi

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akukho mntu apha ophikisana neRussia okanye uPutin, waza ke
waqalisa ukujikisa yonke loo mvakalelo

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yobuzwe ichasene neMpuma, ichasene neRussia,
ukuze athathe inxaxheba koko kwenziwa lulawulo.

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Ude wabika nabaqhankqalazi ngenxa yokuba babenestikha enonobumba
"Z" kuyo, kwaye abo bantu ngoku bagwetyiwe, ngoko ke...

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kwaye ngelishwa, abantu abakwazi ukubona inyaniso ngale
nto kuba banoburheletya kwaye abayiqondi le micimbi nzulu.

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Kodwa ungasoloko ulibona elinqabileyo
ngokuba lithi nto enye lize lenze enye.

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Ekuqaleni, bathetha into eyahlukileyo kunale bayenzayo kamva.

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Kwaye ngoku, umzekelo, ndibaleka ecaleni koGqr. Miroslav Sládek,
owayesakuba ngusihlalo wamaRiphablikhi,

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owathetha oko ndikuthethayo kwiminyaka engama-35
eyadlulayo kwaye usakusithetha nanamhlanje.

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Ubusoloko esitsho, ukubhale kuzo zonke iincwadi zakhe.

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Ngoko ke, ukuba umntu ungumchasi wokwenene,
ukwenza oko entliziyweni yakhe kwaye ukwenza oko kuba

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ekholelwa kwilizwe lakhe, kuba ekholelwa kwikamva.

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Ukuba umntu uyinxalenye yokuchasa okulawulwayo, uya
kusoloko ezibandakanya nemali yezityebi zehlabathi.

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Enkosi kakhulu ngeenkcazelo zakho ezinomdla kwaye
ndikunqwenelela ithamsanqa kunyulo. Sala kakuhle.

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Enkosi kakhulu. Enkosi ngeli thuba. Niyanibulisa ndiseJamani
kwaye, ewe, nakuzo zonke iindawo apho olu dliwano-ndlebe luza

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kutolikwa khona, kwaye ndinqwenelela konke okuhle ngentliziyo yam
yonke, ukuze sikwazi ukuzikhulula kule

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fashizim yeenkampani zehlabathi yanamhlanje size
sifumane inkululeko kumazwe ethu. Enkosi kakhulu.

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Ewe, enkosi nawe. Sala kakuhle.

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Sala kakuhle.