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Ngo-2021, uTara Rodas wayebambe isikhundla esiphezulu
kwiziko lokwamkela abantwana abahamba bodwa eUnited States.

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Uphendule kubizo oluvela kulawulo lukaBiden lokuncedisa ngengxaki
yabaleki abangaphantsi kweminyaka esemthethweni, ababewela

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umda wasemazantsi we-United States ngobuninzi ngelo xesha.

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Wayefuna ukunceda ukudibanisa abantwana neentsapho zabo.

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Noko ke, wakhawuleza waqaphela ukuba
kukho into engalunganga ngabantwana.

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Babenokuhlaselwa luxhalabo olukhulu, bakhwaza becela
abazali babo, baza bathi babexhatshazwe

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ngabangenisi abangekho mthethweni baze baziswa eUnited States.

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URodas uphande waza watyhila
uthungelwano olukhulu lokurhweba ngabantwana.

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Ngoko ke waba ngumchweli-nkcazelo, ngoku elwela
ukutyhila la mabhanti nokuzenza zithwale uxanduva.

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Kudliwano-ndlebe oluchukumisayo noChris
Farrell, uthetha ngezinto azifumanisileyo.

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Ityhila indlela la bantwana ababanikezelwa
ngayo kwizaphuli-mthetho, ezathi ke zabanyanzela

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ukuba basebenze ngenkani okanye benza ubufebe.

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Ubalisa ngoogqirha abachaza ngokukhala ukuba nkqu nabantwana
abancinci kakhulu bayenzakala ngenxa yokuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo

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okukhulu kwaye bafumana izifo ezosulelayo ngokwabelana ngesondo
besebancinci, sele bekwiminyaka yesikolo samabanga aphantsi.

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Uqhubeka echaza indlela urhulumente axhasa ngayo lo rhwebo
lwabantwana ngeebhiliyoni zeeponti, ukuba abantwana

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abangama-325,000 kula ngoku bathathwa njengelahlekileyo, nokuba
iSebe lezeMpilo lithintela uphando olufuneka ngokungxamisekileyo.

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Bukela iinxalenye zevidiyo kunye noTara Rodas apha ngezantsi.

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Udliwano-ndlebe lwenziwe ngo-Okthobha
ka-2024, phambi konyulo lokugqibela lwase-US.

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Ngoko ke, ekupheleni kwenkqubo, siza kuxoxa
ngeenkqubela kulo mcimbi phantsi kolawulo lwangoku lwase-US.

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NdinguChris Farrell, kwaye le yi-On Watch.

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Namkelekile kwi-On Watch, ipodcast evela kwi-Judicial Watch,
apho sijonge ngaphaya kweentloko zeendaba ukuze sizise amabali

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awona amajelo eendaba aphambili angathandi ukuba uziwazi.

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Sizama ukwakha ngokutsha oko
kulityelweyo kwaye sichaze okungaqondakaliyo.

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Namhlanje sinazo zonke ezi zinto zintathu ze nina.

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Siyamkela kwakhona umfazi onesibindi kakhulu, umchazi-nyani
owafumanisa waza watyhila ingxaki

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emangalisayo yokurhweba ngabantu, urhwebo lwezesondo
kunye nokuxhatshazwa kwabantwana elizweni lethu.

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Siyamkela uTara Rodas. Wamkelekile, Tara!

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Chris, enkosi kakhulu ngokundimema kwinkqubo yakho namhlanje.

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Ndinombulelo ongazenzisiyo kuni nakwiJudicial Watch ngokuqhubeka
nokukhanyisa ngoku sinokuqiniseka ukuba

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ngurhwebo lwabantwana oluxhaswa ngurhulumente
kwaye oluxhaswa ngemali yabahlawuli berhafu.

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Kanye. Kwaye ababukeli nabaphulaphuli abathembekileyo
be-podcast yethu ngokuqinisekileyo baya kukhumbula.

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Kwaye ndiyazi ukuba uyakhumbula, kuba udliwano-ndlebe lwethu
lokuqala ngoJulayi 2023, kwiminyaka engaphantsi

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konyaka odlulileyo, malunga neenyanga ezili-14
ezidlulileyo, lwalunabaphulaphuli abaninzi kakhulu.

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Sibe noTara njengondwendwe lwethu ukuze athethe ngamava akhe
kwiziko lokwamkela nokulungiselela abantwana abahamba bodwa.

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Eli bali alikholeleki. Ndicinga ukuba sithethe ngaphezu kweyure.

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Oogxa bam apha baza kudibanisa isiqendu esidala
nesitsha ukuze ukwazi ukubukela zombini ukuba awukaboni.

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Kodwa njengesiqalo nje, njengendawo esivumelana ngayo, Tara,
sixelele ukuba wazi njani ngolu rhwebo

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lwabantwana olugqithisileyo, olukhohlakeleyo,
oluxhaswa ngurhulumente, ukuba waluqonda njani.

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Kanye, Chris, ababukeli bakho banokukhumbula ukuba
ekuqaleni kuka-2021, ulawulo lukaBiden-Harris lwakhupha

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ubizo kubo bonke abasebenzi bakarhulumente womdibaniso.

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Bathe ukuba ungumqeshwa karhulumente
womdibaniso, kufuneka ushiye urhulumente wakho

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wengingqi ukuze uncede kwingxaki ekumda wasemazantsi.

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Kwaye yayiyingxaki ngokukodwa yala bantwana babengahambi namntu.

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Abantwana abafike emideni yethu
bengenabo usapho, bengenabo abazali.

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Kwaye ke injongo yayikukudibanisa la
bantwana nabaxhasi abavela eUnited States.

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Kwaye bendicinga ukuba imalunga nenkqubo yokudibanisa usapho.

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Bendicinga ukuba ndiza kupeyinta kwaye ndenze
iipuzzle nabantwana ngelixa bebelinde

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ukudibana kwakhona nabazali babo apha eUnited States.

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Kodwa ibingeyiyo lonto ingongoma. Iinjongo zakho
ezintle bezingenanto yakwenza noko kwakusenzeka ngokwenene.

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Kulungile. Kwaye into endingayaziyo mna kunye namagosa amaninzi
karhulumente womdibaniso abebandakanyekile kulo msebenzi...

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Akukho mntu wayesazi ukuba abantwana
babebanjwa ngokungekho mthethweni ngale nkqubo

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kwaye bexhatshazwa iminyaka engaphezu kweshumi.

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Oko kuyothusa ngokupheleleyo.

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Ngoko ke, andizange ndazi nto ngayo xa ndathi, "Heyi,
ndilapha, ndithumele. Ndifuna ukunceda la bantwana."

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Umyeni wam usuka e-El Salvador. Ndithetha isiSpanish.

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Ndaza ndacinga, lo uza kuba ngumsebenzi wam
wokunceda uluntu ebomini bam. Uza kuba mhle kakhulu.

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Kulungile.

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Kuphela ukuze kufunyaniswe ukuba
abantwana babengazi ukuba babesisiwa phi.

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Kwaye oko kwothusa.

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Kwaye xa sithetha ngabantwana, sihlala sicinga: Owu, lo
uneminyaka eli-14 ubudala, kulungile, usengumntwana ngokwenene,

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kodwa umntu oneminyaka eli-16 okanye eli-17
ubudala ngokuqinisekileyo ungumntu omdala

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kakhulu kunalowo uneminyaka eli-10 ubudala.

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Kodwa awuthethi nje ngabantu abatsha
abanjengaba, uthetha ngabantwana abancinci.

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Kulungile.

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Ndithetha ukuthi, ngokwenene iintsana
zithunyelwa ngaphesheya komda kwi-United States.

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Ewe. Iintsana nabantwana abasacathulayo. Ayinakucingelwa.

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Kodwa uCarlos Arellano, umchweli weempazamo
waseMVM (inkampani yezokhuseleko yaseMelika),

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wayethwele umntwana onenyanga ezintathu ubudala.

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Ngoko ke, abantu kufuneka baqonde oko.

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I-MVM yinkampani yezokhuseleko eyayinikwe umsebenzi wokuthutha
aba bantwana – hayi bonke, ewe, kodwa badlala indima koku.

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Babenesivumelwano norhulumente waseMelika sokuthutha abantu.

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Ewe. Kwaye sithetha ngezigidi
nezigidi zeeponti zokuthutha aba bantwana.

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Kuyamangalisa ngokwenene. Kwaye
zineenyanga ezintathu kuphela ubudala.

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Kwaye, Chris, ndingathi abanye abantwana
endibabonileyo ngamehlo am yayingabantu abakwishumi

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elivisayo, kuquka namakhwenkwe akwishumi elivisayo.

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Kodwa bavela kwiindawo zemveli zaseGuatemala, bathetha
iilwimi ezahlukeneyo zesiMayans kwaye abathethi isiSpanish.

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Kulungile.

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Abanakuzikhusela kwaphela.

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Ezinye zezi zana azikaze ziye esikolweni.

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Abakwazi ukufunda. Abakwazi ukubhala.

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Kwaye ke bayeza apha kwaye
kufuneka benze umsebenzi onyanzelekileyo.

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I-New York Times iye yanika ingxelo ngale nto.

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Kuyothusa ukuba, kude kube namhlanje,
akukho mntu wenze nto ukusindisa aba bantwana.

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Ewe, ndithetha ukuthi, leyo yinxalenye yebali
enomdla ngokwenene, ukuba ngokucacileyo

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wawunamava akho buqu kwiziko lokuqwalasela la bana.

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Ibali elikhulu lide lanikelwa ingxelo.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba yayiluthotho lwamanqaku amathathu kwi-New
York Times olwalunika ingxelo ngokusetyenziswa kwabantwana

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emsebenzini kumaziko okucoca inyama nakwezinye iindawo.

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Ewe.

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Kwaye umntu angacinga ukuba kwelinye icala lasekhohlo, kwindawo
kaBiden noHarris, oku kuya kuxatyiswa phantsi

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kwesihloko esithi: "Thixo wam, nkqu nesixhobo sethu
sokuxhasa ingxelo, iNew York Times, ithi sibangele ingxaki."

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Kodwa ngandlel' ithile kuye kwaxelwa.
Ndithetha ukuthi, kufuneka ubancome ngokuyixela.

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Kwakoyikeka. Kodwa kwakungathi akukho
mpembelelo okanye saphendulo, akukho nto.

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Hayi, akubangakho nempembelelo kwaphela. Akukho
manyathelo athathiweyo ukusindisa aba bantwana.

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Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yeyona nto eyoyikisa kakhulu.

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Xa saqala ukunika ingxelo ngamatyala
okurhweba ngabantu ngoJuni 2021, sacinga ukuba

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mhlawumbi abantwana abangama-50 babephenjelelwe.

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Kodwa xa sasisigqibile, sasele siqhube amatyala angaphezu
kwama-8,300 kwisithuba esingaphantsi

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kweenyanga ezintandathu, sisebenzela kwiziko
lokwamkela lasePomona Fairplex apho bendisebenza khona.

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Sacinga, 'Thixo wam, oku kuchaphazela amawaka
abantwana,' kuba sabona iimeko ezivela kumaziko ahluke kakhulu.

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Kodwa ke, ngo-2023, uHannah Dreier watyhila kwiNew York
Times ukuba abantwana abangama-85,000 babesele benyamalele.

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Kwaye okokugqibela xa sasixoxa ngale nto,
lwaluloo nani sicingela ukulinganisa le ngxaki.

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Kodwa eneneni, kubi kakhulu kunoko. Zininzi ngokuphindwe kane.

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Ndithatha eli nani lisetyenziswayo ngoku liyathembeka
kwaye lichaziwe kakuhle, nangona lisengumlinganiselo nje.

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Inani ngoku limi kwiintsana ezingama-325,000 ezinyamaleleyo.

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Bayaphelile. Akukho mntu waziyo ukuba baphi okanye banjani.

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Banyamalala nje. Baphathwa baza banyamalala.

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Ewe. Kwaye eyona nto eyoyikisayo yeyokuba
akukho mntu wenze nto ukusindisa aba bantwana.

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Kwaye abantu kufuneka baqonde ukuba lo ngumba wezopolitiko.

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Singakwazi ukuqalisa elona phulo likhulu
lokuhlangula abantwana elakha lazanywa kwimbali

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yoluntu, ukuba i-HHS ingakhulula ezo datha.

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Chris, ndicinga ukuba le yinto abantu abaninzi abangayaziyo nje.

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Abantu bacinga, "Thixo wam! Abantwana abasekho! Ndingenza ntoni?"

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Kwaye bakholelwa ukuba abanakwenza
nto okanye akukho nto enokwenziwa.

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Enyanisweni, urhulumente womdibaniso akanayo kuphela idatha
yabantwana, kodwa ukwanayo nedatha yabazali abakhulisayo

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ababebekwe kubo abantwana, kunye neenkcukacha ezipheleleyo ngaba
bazali abakhulisayo, ezifana nedilesi yabo yokugqibela eyaziwayo.

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Kodwa abayi kuthatha nyathelo ngakubo kwaye abayi
kuyityhila le datha; nkqu nange-subpoena, iSebe lezeMpilo aliyi

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kuyidlulisela olu lwazi kumaqumrhu onyanzeliso-mthetho.

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Kwaye ngenxa yokuba le ngobuso ifihla olu lwazi kwaye
ilufihle kwii-arhente zokunyanzelisa umthetho, akukho mntu

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waziyo ukuba baphi abantwana abangaphezu kwama-320,000.

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Kwaye oko akwamkelekanga.

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Ngokoluvo lwam, ngaphandle kokuthethelela
isiphumo okanye isikhundla esithile, olu

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lulwazi olubaluleke kakhulu lokwazisa uluntu.

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Unyulo lwesizwe luyasondela kwiintsuku ezimbalwa
ezizayo, kwaye abantu baza kuba besenza izigqibo baze

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bazalise iphepha lokuvota okanye batsale isiphatho.

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Kufuneka wenze isigqibo esinolwazi.

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Ngoko ke, ngokoluvo lwam, igosa lethu lemida
uKamala Harris ukhokele owona msebenzi mkhulu wokurhweba

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ngabantu nokurhweba ngesondo kwimbali yehlabathi.

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Kwaye ukucacisa ngakumbi, sobabini
sithetha ngorhwebo lwabantwana apha.

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Unolwazi namava akho buqu kule ndawo.

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Uyayibonile.

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Ndiyazi ukuba uthetha apha namhlanje
njengomntu ozimeleyo, kodwa ngethamsanqa uvela

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kwihlabathi lobuchwepheshe lwabahloli jikelele.

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Ngoko ke, ndiza kusebenzisa intetho yesiqhelo okanye islangi.

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Uhlakaniphile kancinci kunomntu oqhelekileyo.

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Uyazi into oyibonayo xa ujongene nezenzo
ezinje zobuqhophololo, zobuxoki, nezokuqhatha.

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Unesiphiwo sokubona loo nto.

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Ngoko ke ubona okwenzekayo kwesi sakhiwo
sisePomona uze uthi, "Heyi, yima kancinci. Wenzani apho?"

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Ndithetha ukuthi, xelela ababukeli bethu nabaphulaphuli bethu
kancinci ngayo; malunga nendlela osabela ngayo ngokukhawuleza:

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Kwenzeka ntoni kanye kanye apha? Wenzani?

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Ewe. Kaloku, bekulula kakhulu ukubona ukuba abantwana
ababenohlaselo lokuphangazeka kwakufuneka babekwe phantsi kweliso

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lokuzibulala, bekulila befun' abazali babo, kwaye besixelela
amabali ngendlela abebexhatshazwe ngayo ukuze baziswe apha.

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Akuzange kuthathe xesha lide siqonde ukuba sinengxaki enkulu.

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Zingabantwana. Ndithetha ukuthi, lixabiso elikhulu.

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Kufuneka siqinisekise ukuba aba
bantwana bafakwa kumakhaya akhuselekileyo.

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Lelo yayilelo xesha ndaqonda ngalo
ukuba le yayiyingxaki ngaba bantwana.

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Ndaqonda ukuba kukho into engalunganga.

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Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile ukuba abantu
baqonde ukuba i-HHS ayingomenyu esemthethweni.

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Inqabileyo inolwazi, izakhono, ubuchule okanye ubungcali
bokuthatha amanyathelo nxamnye namaqela orhwebo ngabantu.

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Kulungile.

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Abakayenzi. Kwaye ngelishwa, ngoku bona
banoxanduva lokukhululwa kuba basilele uk

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.... Nalapha, kwenziwa izigqibo zezopolitiko.

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Ngelishwa, yayiliphutha elikhulu lokugweba
kwabantu abenza izigqibo kwezopolitiko ukunciphisa

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ulawulo nokuhlolwa kokhuseleko kwaba baxhasi kuthiwa.

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Kwaye siyazi ukuba abanye babaxhasi bamalungu
emibutho yolwaphulo-mthetho yamazwe ngamazwe.

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I-HHS ayinazo izixhobo eziyimfuneko zokuthatha amanyathelo nxamnye
nemigewu kunye nezaphuli-mthetho ezikumgangatho ophezulu.

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Ngelishwa, umgaqo-nkqubo osileleyo wemida evulekileyo ukhokelele
ekubeni izaphuli-mthetho ezikumgangatho

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ophezulu, ababulali kunye namalungu emibutho
yolwaphulo-mthetho yamazwe ngamazwe bengena emideni yethu.

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Ngoku bakwangabaxhasi nabakhathaleli babantwana abasesichengeni.

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Kwaye... akunakucingelwa!

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Kodwa i-HHS ayiyondibano yokunyanzelisa umthetho.

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Yiyo loo nto ke bengazi.

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Uveze ingongoma ebalulekileyo apho, kwaye
ndingathanda ukunika iinkcukacha ezingemva koku.

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Abanye bababukeli bethu nabaphulaphuli
basenokungacingi ngokhuseleko lwemida ngoku.

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Ucinga nge-ICE .

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Ucinga ngeeziko zokunyanzelisa umthetho ezijongene
nokungena kwabantu elizweni ngokungekho mthethweni.

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Nangona kunjalo, ingongoma ebalulekileyo
kulo mxoxo uphela kukuba abantwana abahamba

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bodwa asiyomcimbi wamapolisa omda okanye i-ICE.

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Oku kungaphantsi kwe 'Sebe lezeMpilo neeNkonzo
zeNtlalo'; i-Ofisi yokuHlaliswa kwabaPhambukeli (ORR).

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Kwaye seso isebe likarhulumente elinoxanduva
lokunyamekela, ukubonelela kunye nokuhlalisa abantwana.

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Ngoko ke aba ngabalawuli bezempilo abalawula le nkqubo.

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Njengoko sele ukhankanyile, abangamagosa ezomthetho.

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Abazi ukuba abantu bahlolwa njani okanye iitsheki zenziwa njani.

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Ngokwenene, baphatha nje abantu.

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Kwaye bajongene nombutho
wolwaphulo-mthetho oqeqeshekileyo kakhulu.

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Ewe.

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Kwaye bafuna impahla, kwaye loo mpahla ngaba bana abancinci.

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Kwaye bayakwazi ukuxhaphaza la bantwana, babalawule, babaguqule
babe ngemali, baze babahlanganise ngenjongo engaziwayo nguThixo.

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Kanye. Kwaye yile nto ndicinga ukuba umbukeli oqhelekileyo kunye
nabantu abaninzi abayiqondiyo: ukuba kukho abantu abangendawo

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ehlabathini ababona abantwana njengeempahla zorhwebo.

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Kulungile.

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Kwaye bazisebenzisela urhwebo ngabantu ngeenjongo zokuxhatshazwa
emsebenzini okanye urhwebo ngesondo kwanento embi nangakumbi.

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Kuba iziyobisi zithengiswa kanye kuphela;
njengento etyiwa kanye ngumntu ozithengisayo.

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Ewe, bayafumana imali ngayo, kodwa bayithengisa kanye kuphela.

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Ukuba unomntwana, ungayisebenzisa yonke imihla.

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Kwamatyeli amaninzi. Kwiintsuku ezininzi ngosuku,
kwaye loo nto ingumthombo wengeniso ongapheliyo!

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Yaye yile nto abantu ekufuneka bayiqonde.

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Ukuba kukho abantu abacinga ngolu hlobo, nokuba kufuneka sithathe
amanyathelo kwinqanaba lezopolitiko ukukhusela abantwana!

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Kuyaxhokonxwa imfazwe ngoku ngokuchasene nabantwana.

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Kwaye abantu kufuneka bavuke baqonde ukuba
singayisombulula le ngxaki, kodwa hayi ngale meko ikhoyo ngoku.

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Le nkqubo kufuneka iyilwe ngokutsha ngokupheleleyo.

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Kwaye ukuphathiswa komthetho kufuneka kubuyiselwe kulo mba.

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Oku kufuna isebe elilawulayo elomeleleyo.

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Kodwa angakwazi ukuqala ukusindisa abantwana namhlanje.

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Kungaqala namhlanje ngokutshutshisa la
maqela olwaphulo-mthetho, abahwebi ngabantu.

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Kungaqala namhlanje ukuphelisa iziseko zorhwebo ngabantu.

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Loo nto ingasenzeka nanamhlanje ukuba
bekukho abantu abafanelekileyo ezikhundleni.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo!

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Kwaye kwezinye iimeko, kwakucacile ukuba abo bantu
bambi babethimba la bantwana babesebenzisa idilesi enye

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kubaxhasi abaninzi nakubantwana abaninzi ababebathatha.

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Nditsho, abazange bazikhathaze nokwenza iidilesi zobuxoki.

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Abanye babantu aba babengacwangcisekanga kwaye benelasa,
kangangokuba ubunokuba nendlu okanye iflethi apho

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"abaxhasi" abaliqela kunye nabantwana abangangesiqingatha
sedizeni okanye idizeni yonke babebhaliswe kwidilesi enye.

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Ngoko ke, akufuneki inkqubo yohlalutyo olunzulu ukuze
uqonde ukuba le nkqubo ibixhatshazwa ngaba bantu bambi.

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Ewe. Nabani na onolwazi oluncinci lokuhlalutya idatha angabona
ukuba akunangqiqo ukuba umxhasi anike iidilesi

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ezimbini ezahlukeneyo okanye ukuba abaxhasi abathathu
bahlale kwiflethi enye baze baxhase abantwana abaliqela.

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Akuyonto inzima le.

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Kulungile.

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Kwaye into yokuba le nkqubo ibikho ngolu hlobo lwayo ixesha elide
kangaka bubungqina obongezelelweyo bokuba abo

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banoxanduva ngokucacileyo abakwazi ukuhlonza uthungelwano
lokurhweba ngabantu nokukhusela abantwana kubarhwebi.

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Kufuneka ke ke kubekho utshintsho
olukhulu ukuze kusindiswe aba bantwana!

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Ingaba kwakuyinto eqhelekileyo ukuba aba bantwana
bafotwe kwaye kuthatyathwe iimpawu zabo zeminwe?

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Iminwe? Hayi. Sithathe iifoto zabantwana.

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Lelo elinye inqaku elibalulekileyo
ekufuneka ulazi. I-HHS inefoto yomntwana.

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I-HHS inolwazi. Abafuni nje ukwabelana ngalo.

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Ewe. Ngoko ke ezi ziimpawu ezithembekileyo.

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La ngamacebiso anokusetyenziswa.

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Ewe.

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Ndithetha ukuthi, ukuba oko kwakusenzeke kwiminyaka
emithathu edlulileyo, uThixo uyazi ukuba bangabe bekuphi.

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Kodwa kukho umsebenzi wophando osisiseko onokwenziwa;
amapolisa anokufumana iidilesi nabantu aze akhangele abantwana.

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Unesifanekiso. Kwaye ngoku akasengomntwana oyintombazana
oneminyaka eli-12 ubudala, mhlawumbi uneminyaka eli-14

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ngoku, kodwa usenesifanekiso sakhe, inkcazelo jikelele,
kwaye mhlawumbi nokuba yintoni na enokubonisa ukuba ngubani.

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Ngoko ke, kukho uphando oluninzi lwamapolisa
olunokwenziwa kwisigaba sokuqala ukuze

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kufunyanwe ukuba ngobani onokuhlangulwa kwangoko.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo!

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Kwaye nokuba ngobani na la
baphuli-mthetho ekufuneka batyholwe, akunjalo?

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Kanye .

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Tara Rodas: Kuba ukuba abantwana abakhuluweyo bayezelwa kwidilesi
enye ngokucacileyo, ke ngokwemvelo kubakho

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ingqokelela yolwazi ekufuneka ithunyelwe ngqo
kwabasemagunyeni bomthetho ukuze benze uphando.

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Kodwa abayikhuphi idatha, Chris.

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Akukholeleki.

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USenator Grassley ufake isikhalazo solwaphulo-mthetho.

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USenator Grassley sele eneminyaka
ethethelela aba bantwana bangahambi nabantu abadala.

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Ubanze iindibano zokuva ubungqina kwiNdlu yeeNgwevu ngoJulayi.

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Enyanisweni ufake izikhalazo
zolwaphulo-mthetho kwi-FBI nakwi-DHS , kodwa i-HHS yala

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ukukhulula idatha, nokuba bekukho nee-subpoenas.

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Abazange baphendule kuko.

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Kwiimeko ezininzi, oku kuphelele nje
ekubeni uphando lweSebe lukwazi ukufumana abantu

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abangaphantsi kwe-4% kwabo bejolise kubo.

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Ngoko ke, ngaphantsi kwe-4% yabantwana
ababebefuna, kwaye ngaphantsi kwe-4% yabathengisi babantu,

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kuba i-HHS ayibambisani kwaye ayiniki datha kubo.

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Oko akunakucingelwa.

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I-HHS ithi ntoni? Bayixhasa njani le nto?

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Ingaba basebenzisa imigaqo yokukhuselwa kwedatha okanye
yintoni? Yeyiphi le nto yokungasebenzisani ehlekisayo?

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Yintoni...? Ewe. Ndithetha ukuthi... Ngokuqhelekileyo
banika isizathu esingento, nokuba siyahlekisa kangakanani na.

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Kodwa ke, benza ngathi bayawuthobela umthetho
okanye bakhusela abantu abatsha kunye nobumfihlo.

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Ngaba seso isizathu sakho?

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Ewe, bathi bubumfihlo bomxhasi, kwaye oko
kubaluleke ngaphezu kwayo yonke enye into kubo.

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Kwaye ke, loo nto yingcinga engalunganga ngokupheleleyo.

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Ewe. Ewe.

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Abaxhasi abaze kudingeke ukuba banike ingxelo kwi-ORR.

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Ngoko ke sinikezela umntwana kumntu ongazukufuneka
kwakhona aphendule umnxeba ovela kurhulumente womdibaniso.

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Akwenzeki kwanto oko.

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Kuvela umntwana emdeni, enenombolo
yefowuni negama lomntu apha eUnited States.

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Yifumene njani idatha?

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Kulungile, abantwana basixelela
ukuba bayifumene endleleni eza apha.

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Ewe. Baze ke bayidlulisele le nto kumapolisa ethu omda
abagqwesileyo, asebenza njengendawo yoqhagamshelwano yase-US.

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Kulungile.

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Le ndawo yoqhagamshelwano yase-US kufuneka ke
ilahlekelwe ngumntwana kwi-HHS kwisithuba seeyure ezingama-72.

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Injongo yethu ibikukunikezela umntwana kwindawo yoqhagamshelwano
yase-US phakathi kweentsuku ezili-10 ukuya kwezili-14.

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Abo yayingabo ababizwa ngokuba "ngabaxhasi" bethu.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba abantu abazi ukuba kwisithuba seeveki ezimbini,
abantwana banikezelwa kubantu apha eUnited States abazukuba

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kufuneka baphinde baphendule umnxeba ovela kurhulumente.

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Sinikezela ngolondolozo. Yiloo nto.

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Sala! Sikunqwenelela ithamsanqa ngaloo nto. Akukholeleki!

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Asisoze siphathe abantwana baseMelika ngolo hlobo.

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Kwaye andazi ukuba kutheni siphatha
abantwana abangabaphambukeli ngolu hlobo.

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: Ewe. Ndiza kuthetha into enokuvakala ngathi ayibalulekanga,
kodwa andithethi njalo; ndifuna ukuvakalisa into ethile kanye.

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Kukho iindawo kweli lizwe apho ungenakwamkela
inja ngaphandle kokuba udlule kuvavanyo

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olucokisekileyo lwemvelaphi kunye nokulandelelwa.

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Kwaye ndithetha loo nto kanye; ndiyazi oku ngokwam.

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Uya kumsitho wokwamkela izinja, kufuneka uzalise iifomu,
ubonise isazisi sakho, baze bakuhlolisise bakubuze imibuzo.

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Ufumana inja kwaye emva koko kubakho utyelelo lwasekhaya.

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Isebenza kanye ngolo hlobo.

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Sinolwazi olungakumbi neenkxalabo, kunye
nendlela yokuqinisekisa impilo nentlalontle yenja.

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Kwaye ndingumthandi wezinja.

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Ngoko ke ndiyakuqonda oko kwaye andikhalazi ngako.

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Kum ngokwam, le ntetho ingalinganiyo iyadanisa
kakhulu... ayinankathalo kwaye iyageza kwicala le-HHS.

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Nditsho, akukho sizathu, akukho nchazelo yako.

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: Ewe, akukho ncazelo yayo, ngaphandle kokuba
lishishini elinenzuzo yonyaka yezigidi ezininzi zeedola.

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Masigcine kuloo nto.

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Ndifuna sixoxe ngemali.

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Lo ngamashishini emali.

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Uyabona, nokuba kutheni, ukuyibeka
lula, bathengisa abantwana, andithi?

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Yinto ehanjiswayo, imali iyatshintshwa, kwaye kukho ...
zizo eziyinto ehanjiswayo, impahla engavumelekanga ehutyiweyo.

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Ngubani oxhamlayo koku? Ngubani?

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Iinkampani ezininzi zokwakha kunye nee-NGO
zenza izigidi nezigidi zeedola ngonyaka.

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: Ke, ndithetha ukuthi... masihlole kancinci apha iindlela
zokusebenza, ukuze sinike abantu umbono wokuba isebenza njani:

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Ukuba bayawela umda, baya kubanjwa.

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Kodwa ngubani oza kuzivusa?

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Maxa wambi ngamapolisa omda, kodwa maxa wambi amapolisa
omda ahlanganisa abantu baze bathumele ibhasi okanye iminibus.

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Kwaye qashela ntoni! Le bhasi
okanye iminivan yeyenkampani yezothutho.

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Abayenzi le nto ngenxa yobubele obumsulwa.

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Bathunywa ngurhulumente ukuba baqhube iibhasi
phakathi kwendawo A ne B okanye phakathi

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kwendawo yokwamkela i-A neendawo yokulungisa i-C.

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Kodwa yinkonzo yebhasi.

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Kwaye zihamba... Andazi, iibhasi
ezili-10 ukuya kwezili-20 ngosuku.

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Ngaphezu koko.

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Ewe, ndithetha nje ukuba, zili-10 ukuya
kwezili-20 kwicandelo elithile lendlela, akunjalo?

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La ngamanxalenye ezothutho ezikhulu: iibhasi, iiminibhasi, njalo
njalo, kwaye ke kukho neendleko zeenqwelomoya ngaphezulu koko.

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Kwaye ke kukho ezi NGO, elil gama nje eliqhelekileyo elithetha
imibutho engengowurhulumente, kodwa

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ukunyaniseka, kwaye ndiyaxolisa ukuyivuma, amaxesha
amaninzi le yimibutho yeecawa efumene indlela...

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Nditsho, mhlawumbi babeneenjongo ezintle ekuqaleni, bafuna
ukunceda abantu, uThixo mabababusise, oko kulungile kakhulu.

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Kodwa ke yaba lishishini elinengeniso enkulu kubo.

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Kwaye kukho imibutho engekho
phantsi korhulumente engokweli neyecawa.

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Abanye babo baqala njengabantu abanobubele ababefuna ukunceda
abantu, kwaye abanye babo enyanisweni banomdla kwimali kuphela.

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Kodwa nalapha, bayahlawulwa, phantse ngomntu
ngamnye, ngeentlawulo zokuqhuba nokuphatha

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aba bantu – kwaye yile nto kanye eyenza imali.

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Oku kubandakanya inkcitho enkulu kakhulu,
sithetha ngezigidi zezigidi zeedola apha.

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Ewe! Amakhulu ezigidi, inyanga nenyanga.

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Into abanye abantu ababonakala bengayiqondi, ngokoluvo lwam,
yeyokuba ikhontrakthi endandinalo yewebhusayithi endandisebenzela

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yona yayixabisa ngaphezulu kwezigidi ezilikhulu ngenyanga.

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Akukho mntu ocingayo, "Hawu! Ndiza kuthi nje
ndiveze ukuba i-arhente yam okanye usonkontileka wam

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ufumana yonke le mali kwaye uthengisa abantwana."

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Kulungile...

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Uxolo!

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Yeka ke!

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Ngoko ke, loshishino olukhulu.

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Ke kukho... ndithetha ukuthi, ezo ziinkcitho
neendleko zeekhontrakthi zikarhulumente ezivulelekileyo.

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Kwaye abaxhasi belizwe bangekhala besithi:
"Ufuna ukwenza ntoni, ungabashiya nje bafe entlango?"

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Ndicinga ukuba luhlobo lwesingxengxezo
esingento — akukho mntu unokuxhasa loo nto.

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Kodwa kukwakho nenye icala lale nto, elizeyo ziintengiselwano
zemali ezingekho mthethweni zenobugebenga ezenziwa ngasese.

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00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:17,599
Kwaye yilapho kanye urhulumente elahlekelwa khona lulawulo.

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00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:24,531
Akunjalo? Nje ukuba athabatha la bantwana abazinikele
kuwe-sazi-bani, kuba sele kuse ngorhwebo ngesondo, ukusetyenziswa

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00:27:24,531 --> 00:27:30,007
kwabantwana emsebenzini, kunye nezinto ezininzi eziphambeneyo,
ezingaqhelekanga, ezingelonwaba

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nezikhohlakeleyo ezinokusetyenziselwa ukuxhaphaza,
ukukhohlisa nokusebenzisa abantu abatsha...

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Kwaye ke kukho icala elimnyama lalo lonke eli shishini,
umsebenzi wobugebenga obuyimfihlo. UThixo uyazi ukuba

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malunga nani imali ebandakanyekileyo. Akukho mntu uyaziyo.

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Ewe, ewe. Kwaye Chris, siyahlula abantwana
kwiintsapho zabo nakwilizwe labo lokuzalwa.

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Kulungile.

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Yiloo nto abantu abangayiqondiyo.

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00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,119
Ekuqaleni, inkqubo – ndithetha,
injongo yomphathi – yile nto sithetha ngayo.

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Yeyiphi eyona njongo iphambili yale nkqubo?

335
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Bendicinga ukuba kukudityaniswa kweentsapho, kwaye abantu abaqala
ukucinga ngale nkqubo bathi, "Ewe, kukudityaniswa kweentsapho."

336
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Nangona kunjalo, okwangoku akunjalo.

337
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:24,820
UHannah Dreier weNew York Times utyhilile, ngokusekelwe kwidatha
yakhe – emva kokuyihlola – ukuba kwezinye iindawo zeekhowudi

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zeposi, ngaphantsi kwe-10% yabantwana batyelela abazali babo.

339
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960
Oku asikokudityaniswa kosapho.

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Lo ngumsebenzi wobugebenga owenziwa ngokubanzi!

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Abantwana bayanyanzeliswa ukuba basebenze kwiifektri ezibaxayo.

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Abantwana bayathengiswa ukuze babe
kukhoboka lwesondo. Batshilo bona ngokwabo.

343
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Abantwana kwiminyaka emithathu kamva, kuba u-Anthony Rubin
waseMuckraker wabafumana ngokwenene abantwana abathi

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kwiminyaka emithathu kamva: "Jonga, ndisengobukhoboka betyala."

345
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Ndisamfunela imali umntu ondihlawulele
ukungeniswa kwam apha ngokungekho mthethweni.

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Kwiminyaka emithathu kamva, la bantwana basabolekile imali.

347
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,140
Akukholeleki into eyenzekayo apha!

348
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Ewe. Kwaye Chris, ndicinga ukuba yile nto abantu
abangayiqondiyo okanye mhlawumbi abangasoze

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bayicinge, into eyenzelwa umntwana ngumntu ogulayo.

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Kulungile.

351
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,519
Kwaye ke, ndicinga ukuba, yenye yezona
zinto zoyikeka kakhulu endakha ndazibona.

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00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:25,000
Kwakufuneka ndijonge kule mnyama ndaza
ndacinga: Thixo wam, kukho abantu abenza izinto ezinje.

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Kodwa kukwakho noogqirha nabanesi endithethe nabo buqu.

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Nditsho, babes... uyazi, bekrwempa iinyembezi batsho
bathi, "Tara, bekukho intombazana encinci eneminyaka

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esixhenxe ubudala ebinazo zonke ezi zifo zosulelo lwesondo."

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Kulungile.

357
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:45,440
Ndithetha ukuthi, abantu abayiqondi
into embi abantu abayenzayo ebantwaneni.

358
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Saza sabanikezela koosozityholo.

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Kulungile.

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Ndingakhuthaza abantu ukuba bajonge amaxwebhu
awakhuphileyo uSenator Grassley ngomhla we-11 kaJulayi .

361
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:07,279
Ungajonga ingxelo yakhe yakwa-press uze ufumanise ukuba le
ngobuso ibeke abantwana kunyango lwabantu be-MS-13 . Kulungile?

362
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,440
Bangamageza anobungozi. Kutheni sifanele sibazalele abantwana?

363
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,519
Bangamalungu aziwayo emibutho
yolwaphulo-mthetho yamazwe ngamazwe.

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Oko kungaphaya kwengqondo.

365
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:26,788
Kwaye enyanisweni, Chris, ukuba bendingayibonanga
ngamehlo am, bendingenakukholelwa ukuba urhulumente womdibaniso

366
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usuke waba yinkonzo yokuhambisa izinto enobunono obukhulu.

367
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:35,079
Nditsho, ngokwenene ungumlamli wombutho wokuqhushumba abantwana.

368
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Ewe, bayayenza.

369
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:42,319
Nditsho, ayikokuba bayabandakanyeka
kuyo ngandlel' ithile. Ngabo abayenzayo.

370
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:47,559
Baphumeza isicwangciso sokuthimba
nokuxhaphaza la bantwana. Ngumdlalo wabo.

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Ewe.

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Yeyakho le nto.

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Ewe. Kwaye ukwahlula abantu kwiintsapho zabo
ekhaya ngokubatsalela kude kuku-thuthwa kwabantu.

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00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,759
Yinkohliso enogonyamelo okanye uqhushumbiso.

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Kulungile.

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Kulungile, abantwana nabazali
babo, kuba abantwana basixelele lonto.

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Kulungile.

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Uyazi, wonke umntu unokuba nezizathu zakhe.

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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Sajonga, ndaza ndabona amehlo abantwana aboyikileyo.

380
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,799
Ndiyazi oku kuba abantwana bandixelele namanye abantu.

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00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:23,480
Kwaye kukho iingxelo ezineentetho
zabantwana. Loo nto ayinakuphikiswa.

382
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Abantwana bathi, "Uyazi, ekhaya
eGuatemala, bendifumana kuphela i-£2.50 ngosuku."

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00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,140
Kodwa umrhwebi wabantu apha eTexas
wandixelela ukuba ukuba ndingashiya ekhaya, ndingaza

384
00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:38,480
apha eUnited States ndize ndenze i-£6 ngeyure.

385
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Umntwana nabazali bakholelwa ukuba
umntwana uza kuba sisityebi njengo-Elon Musk.

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00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,039
Kulungile.

387
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,960
Ukusuka kwi-£2.50 ngosuku ukuya kwi-£6 ngeyure.

388
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,079
Kwaye akunakucingelwa kwaphela ukuba
singatsala amaqela abantu abasesichengeni.

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00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:57,599
Kwaye ivela eGuatemala abantwana
bemveli abangathethi nokuthetha isiSpanish.

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Kanye.

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00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,359
Ngoko ke kufuneka ngenene sicinge ngento eyenzekayo apha.

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00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:03,799
Kufuneka kwaziswe izikhokelo ezitsha.

393
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:08,920
Abantu abanamava kwezokuphelisa
ulwaphulo-mthetho kufuneka bakwazi ukukhusela abantwana.

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Kwaye iSebe lezeMpilo kufuneka likhuphe idatha ukuze
abantwana bafunyanwe kwaye izaphuli-mthetho batyholwe.

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Asinakukuqhubeka sivumela oku kwenzeke apha eUnited
States kubantwana abasesichengeni, abantwana abancinci.

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00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,960
Oko akunakucingelwa.

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Ewe! Kufuneka simangalele
izilwanyana ezilawula amanethiwekhi enza oku.

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00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,559
Ngokoluvo lwam, kufuneka silumangalele amagosa
karhulumente enze ezi zigqibo aza abangela ukuba oku kwenzeke.

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00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:41,759
Bahleli kudidi lwabo bodwa. Kodwa nabo kufuneka bathethelwe.

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00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:46,000
Kakade ke, iingqondi zobuqhetseba
ezingemva koku kufuneka zityholwe.

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00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,492
Kwaye ke kufuneka sisindise aba bantwana bahluphekileyo.

402
00:32:49,492 --> 00:32:54,912
Udliwano-ndlebe noTara Rodas lwenziwe
ngo-Okthobha 2024, phambi kokuba uDonald Trump

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aphelezelwe kwakhona njengoMongameli wase-US.

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00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:05,430
Emva konyulo, uMphathiswa oMtsha wezeMpilo kaTrump, uRobert F.
Kennedy Jr., wathetha esidlangalaleni kwintlanganiso

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yekhabhinethi ukuba iSebe lezeMpilo phantsi
kukaBiden lenze iSebe laso "libe ngumxhasi wokurhweba

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ngabantwana ngenjongo yokwabelana ngesondo nobukhoboka."

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00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,839
Ngoko ke, uTrump uzise utshintsho olungcono?

408
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:22,559
Intatheli yophando uRyan Matta unokuthandabuza ngale nto.

409
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,713
Ubezelithuba iminyaka ezama ukufumanisa
ukuba baphi abantwana abalahlekileyo kwaye sele

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enze iidocumentary ezininzi ngalo mbandela.

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00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:38,509
Kudliwano-ndlebe ngoMeyi 2025, ubonakalise ukudana
ngokuba ulawulo lukaTrump belungazange lubuyise abantwana

412
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abangama-300,000 emva kweentsuku ezili-100 ekulawuleni.

413
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:49,255
Uqhagamshela ukuba urhulumente uneenombolo
zefowuni eziphathwayo kunye needilesi zabaxhasi

414
00:33:49,255 --> 00:33:53,440
ababekwe kubo abantwana kwaye banokufunyanwa lula.

415
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:59,359
Uye wagxeka indlela urhulumente
aphethe ngayo iinkqubo zeSouthwest Key.

416
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:07,559
I-Southwest Key Programmes ngumbutho omkhulu
osekelwe e-United States osebenza kumaphondo aliqela.

417
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:12,238
Inikezela ngeenkonzo ezininzi ezahlukeneyo,
kuquka indawo yokuhlala yabaphambukeli

418
00:34:12,238 --> 00:34:16,639
abangabantwana abancinci abangahambi nabantu abadala.

419
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:25,800
URyan Matta uqinisekile ukuba amaziko angama-30 ukuya kuma-40
akule nkqubo amele amaqela amakhulu okurhweba ngabantwana.

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00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:33,435
Babexhaphaza kakhulu kangangokuba noMtshutshisi Jikelele
kaBiden, uMerrick Garland, wafaka isimangalo esichasene

421
00:34:33,435 --> 00:34:37,960
nezi ziko, njengoko kuthiwa abantwana badlwengulwa apho.

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00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,934
Noko ke, uMtshutshisi Jikelele kaTrump uPam
Bondi wagqiba kwangokukhawuleza emva kokuba

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00:34:42,934 --> 00:34:46,639
ethabathe isikhundla sokuba ityala mayiyekiswe.

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00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,842
Oku kuyamangalisa kakhulu, xa ucinga ukuba
isibhengezo sokuqala yayikukukhupha amanzi kumgxobhozo.

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00:34:52,842 --> 00:34:59,374
Ngokwengxelo kaMphathiswa wezeMpilo uKennedy yokuba isebe lakhe
lalinxulumene nolu rhwebo lwezesondo

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lwabantwana phantsi kukarhulumente wangaphambili,
umntu uyazibuza ukuba uphi uphando lwezomthetho.

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00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:14,400
Ukuba uTara Rodas uthi uKamala Harris wayephethe owona msebenzi
mkhulu wokurhweba ngabantu nobulili, ngoko ke

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00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:21,965
uphando ngaye nakwabo banoxanduva kwiSebe
lezeMpilo kufuneka luqaliswe ngokukhawuleza okukhulu.

429
00:35:21,965 --> 00:35:24,431
Noko ke, oku akukabonakali okwangoku.

430
00:35:24,431 --> 00:35:28,958
Ngethuba lephulo lakhe lokuba ngumongameli
okokuqala, uTrump wayesele evakalise injongo

431
00:35:28,958 --> 00:35:31,710
yakhe yokufaka uHillary Clinton entolongweni.

432
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:35,723
Noko ke, akuzange kuqalwe nokuba luphi uphando emva konyulo.

433
00:35:35,723 --> 00:35:40,178
Nakwisihlofo sika-Epstein, ulawulo lukaTrump
kude kube ngoku luyasilela ukuphumeza

434
00:35:40,178 --> 00:35:43,690
isithembiso salo sokuphanda nokuvezela iinyaniso.

435
00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:50,686
Oku akumangalisi xa umntu ecinga ukuba amaxhoba amaninzi kunye
namangqina axela ukuba u-Epstein

436
00:35:50,686 --> 00:35:59,112
wayengasebenzi yedwa, kodwa amacandelo amakhulu ezopolitiko
nawasezentlalo ayebandakanyekile kule skrokro.

437
00:35:59,112 --> 00:36:06,892
Oku kuvusa umbuzo wokuba, kwimeko yokurhweba ngabantwana kumda
wase-US, ngaba kuphela izaphuli-mthetho ezincinci ezijoliswe

438
00:36:06,892 --> 00:36:13,218
ingqalelo yamajelo eendaba, ngelixa iintlanzi ezinkulu,
iinethiwekhi, ii-NGO, kunye nabo banxulumene

439
00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:18,018
norhulumente nee-ministries baphinda bashiywa benganxulunywanga.

440
00:36:18,018 --> 00:36:25,623
Logama nje ezi zinto zingavalelwanga, kufuneka
kuthathelwe ngqalelo ukuba impumelelo eboniswayo yindlela

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00:36:25,623 --> 00:36:29,416
nje yokulahla umsi ukuze kuguqulwe ingqondo yoluntu.

