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Ngo-2021, uTara Rodas wayebambe isikhundla esiphezulu esikhungweni
sokwamukela izingane ezingahambisani nabazali e-United States.

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Waphendula ebizweni okuvela kuhulumeni kaBiden ukusiza enkingeni
ehlobene nezimpunzi ezingaphansi kweminyaka

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esemthethweni, ezazidlula ngobuningi umngcele
waseningizimu we-United States ngaleso sikhathi.

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Wayefuna ukusiza ukuhlanganisa izingane nemindeni yazo.

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Nokho, wabona ngokushesha ukuthi
kwakukhona okuthile okungalungile ezinganeni.

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Babe nokuhlaselwa ukwesaba okukhulu, bakhala befuna abazali babo,
futhi bathi babedukiswe baya e-United States ngabashushisi.

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URodas waphanda wathola inethiwekhi enkulu yokuhweba ngabantwana.

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Ngakho-ke waba umuntu obika izimfihlo, manje
eselwela ukudalula lezi zinethiwekhi nokubabophezelisa.

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Engxoxweni ethinta inhliziyo noChris
Farrell, uyakhuluma ngokutholakele kwakhe.

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Kuveza ukuthi lezi zingane zanikezwa izigebengu, ezaziphoqa ukuthi
zisebenze ngokuphoqelelwa noma zenze ubulili bokuthengisa.

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Utshela ngodokotela abakhuluma ngokudabuka ukuthi ngisho
nezingane ezincane kakhulu zibhalekile ngenxa yokuhlukunyezwa

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ngokocansi okukhulu futhi zibhekana nezifo ezidluliselwa ngocansi
kusukela sezisemabangeni aphansi esikoleni samabanga aphansi.

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Uyaqhubeka echaza ukuthi uhulumeni usekela ngemali lo mkhakha
wokuhweba ngabantwana ngamabhiliyoni amaphawundi, ukuthi izingane

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ezingama-325 000 kulezi manje sezibhekwa
njengezilahlekile, nokuthi uMnyango Wezempilo

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uvimba uphenyo oludingeka ngokuphuthumayo.

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Buka izingcaphuno zevidiyo noTara Rodas ngezansi.

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Ingxoxo yenzeka ngo-Okthoba 2024,
ngaphambi kokhetho lokugcina lwase-US.

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Ekugcineni kohlelo, ngakho-ke sizoxoxa ngentuthuko
kulesi simo ngaphansi kokuphathwa kwamanje kwe-US.

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NginguChris Farrell, futhi lokhu kungu-On Watch.

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Siyakwamukela ku-On Watch, ipodcast evela ku-Judicial Watch,
lapho sibheka ngemuva kwezihloko eziphambili ukuze sikulethele

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izindaba abezindaba abakhulu abangafuni ukuthi uzazi.

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Sizama ukwakha kabusha lokho
okukhohlwe futhi sichaze okungaqondakali.

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Namuhla sinazo zonke lezi zingxenye ezintathu kuwe.

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Siyamukela futhi owesifazane onesibindi esikhulu, umuntu obika
izehlakalo owathola futhi wembula inkinga

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emangalisayo yokuhweba ngabantu, ukuthengiswa
kocansi nokuhlukunyezwa kwezingane ezweni lethu.

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Siyamukela uTara Rodas. Siyakwamukela, Tara!

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Chris, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngokungimema ohlelweni lwakho namuhla.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu kini nakuJudicial Watch ngokuqhubeka
nokukhanyisa lokho esikwaziyo ukuthi kuwuhwebo lwezingane

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oxhaswa nguhulumeni futhi oxhaswa ngemali yabakhokhi bentela.

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Ngempela. Futhi ababukeli nabalaleli
abathembekile be-podcast yethu bazokhumbula ngokuqinisekile.

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Futhi ngiyazi ukuthi uyakhumbula, ngoba ingxoxo
yethu yokuqala ngoJulayi 2023, cishe izinyanga

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eziyi-14 ezedlule, yayinababukeli abaningi kakhulu.

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Sasinetha uTara njengomkhulumi wethu ukuze
akhulume ngolwazi lwakhe esikhungweni sokwamukela

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nokucubungula izingane ezingahambisani nabazali.

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Indaba ayikholakali. Ngicabanga
ukuthi sikhulume ngaphezu kwehora.

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Ozakwethu lapha bazohlanganisa isiqephu esidala
nesisha ukuze ukwazi ukubuka womabili uma ungakaboni.

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Kodwa njengesisekelo nje, njengendawo evamile yokubhekisela,
Tara, sitshele ukuthi wawuthola kanjani ulwazi

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ngalokhu kuthengiswa kwezingane okungekho emthethweni,
okunonya, okuxhaswa nguhulumeni, nokuthi wawuqaphela kanjani.

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Ngempela, Chris, ababukeli bakho bangase bakhumbule
ukuthi ekuqaleni kuka-2021, uhulumeni kaBiden-Harris

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wakhuthaza bonke abasebenzi bakahulumeni kazwelonke.

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Bathi uma ungumsebenzi kahulumeni
kazwelonke, kufanele ushiye umbuso wakho wendawo

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ukuze usize enkingeni emngceleni oseningizimu.

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Futhi kwakuyinkinga ikakhulukazi
yalezi zingane ezingahambisani nabazali.

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Izingane ezifike emingceleni
yethu zingenaso umndeni, zingabazali.

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Kwathi-ke inhloso kwakuwukuhlanganisa lezi
zingane nabaxhasi abavela e-United States.

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Futhi ngangicabanga ukuthi
bekuyihlelo lokuhlanganiswa kabusha komndeni.

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Bengicabanga ukuthi ngizodweba futhi ngenze
amaphazili e-jigsaw nezingane ngenkathi zilinde

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ukubuyiselwa kubazali bazo lapha e-United States.

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Kodwa lokho kwakungeyona nhloso. Izinhloso zakho ezinhle
zazinganalo nhlobo uxhumano nalokho okwakwenzeka ngempela.

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Kunjalo. Futhi engingakwazi mina nabanye abaphathi bakahulumeni
kazwelonke abaningi ababebambe iqhaza kulo msebenzi...

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Akekho owawazi ukuthi izingane zazibanjwa ngalolu hlelo
futhi zisetshenziswa kabi iminyaka engaphezu kweyishumi.

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Lokho kuyamangaza ngempela.

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Ngakho angazi lutho ngalokho ngesikhathi ngithi, "Heyi,
nansi mina, ngithumele. Ngifuna ukusiza lezi zingane."

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Umyeni wami uvela e-El Salvador. Ngikhuluma isiSpanish.

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Ngacabanga ukuthi lokhu kuzoba umsebenzi
wobuntu empilweni yami. Kuzoba kuhle kakhulu.

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Kulungile.

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Kuphela ukuthola ukuthi izingane
bezingazi ukuthi zazizothathwa kuphi.

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Futhi lokho kwangimangaza.

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Futhi lapho sikhuluma ngabantwana, sivame ukucabanga: Hawu, lowo
uneminyaka engu-14, kahle, usengumntwana ngempela, kodwa

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lowo oneminyaka engu-16 noma engu-17 ngokuqinisekile
uyisilwane esikhulile kakhulu kunalowo oneminyaka engu-10.

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Kodwa awukhulumi nje ngabantu abasha
abafana nalaba, ukhuluma ngezingane ezincane.

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Kulungile.

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Ngisho ngempela izingane ezisathuthwa
zidlula umngcele ziye e-United States.

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Yebo. Izingane ezisanda kuzalwa nezincane. Akukucabangeki.

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Kodwa uCarlos Arellano, umxwayisi we-MVM (inkampani yezokuphepha
yase-US), wahambisa ingane eneminyaka ezintathu ezinyangeni.

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Ngakho-ke, abantu kumele baqonde lokho.

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I-MVM iyinkampani yezokuphepha eyayiqashwe ukuhambisa lezi
zingane – hhayi zonke, vele, kodwa badlale indima kulokhu.

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Babenesivumelwano nohulumeni
wase-United States sokuthutha abantu.

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Yebo. Futhi sikhuluma ngemali eyizigidi
nezigidi zamaphawundi zokuthutha lezi zingane.

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Lokho kumangalisa ngempela. Futhi baneminyaka ezintathu kuphela.

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Futhi, Chris, ngingaphikisa ukuthi abanye abantwana engibabonile
ngamehlo ami babe yintsha, kuhlanganisa abafana abasha.

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Kodwa bavela emiphakathini yemvela eGuatemala,
bakhuluma izilimi zamaMaya futhi abakhulumi isiSpanish.

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Kulungile.

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Abanavikelwanga nhlobo.

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Abanye balaba bantwana abakaze baye esikoleni.

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Abakwazi ukufunda. Abakwazi ukubhala.

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Bese sebekhona lapha futhi kumele benze umsebenzi ophoqelekile.

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I-New York Times ibike ngalokhu.

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Kuyamangaza ukuthi kuze kube namuhla akekho
owenze lutho ukuze asindise lezi zingane.

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Yebo, ngisho, lena ingxenye yendaba
ethakazelisayo kakhulu, ukuthi ngokusobala wawunamava

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akho siqu esikhungweni sokucubungula lezi zingane.

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Indaba enkulu nayo yabikwa.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi kwakuyochungechunge olunezingxenye
ezintathu ku-New York Times olwalubika ngomsebenzi

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wezingane ezitsheni zokucubungula inyama nakwezinye izindawo.

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Yebo.

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Futhi umuntu angacabanga ukuthi kwenye indawo kwesobunxele, eduze
kukaBiden noHarris, lokhu bekuzobhalwa ngaphansi

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kwesiqubulo esithi: "Nkulunkulu wami, ngisho ithuluzi lethu
lezokupropaganda, iNew York Times, lithi sibangele ingozi."

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Kodwa ngandlela thile kwabikwa.
Ngisho, kufanele ubancome ngokubika lokhu.

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Bekubi kakhulu. Kodwa kwakungathi
akukho mphumela noma impendulo, lutho.

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Cha, akuzange kube nomthelela nhlobo.
Akuthathwanga zinyathelo zokulondoloza lezi zingane.

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Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi lokho
kungomunye walezo zinto ezesabekayo kakhulu.

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Ngesikhathi saqala ukubika ngamacala
okuhweba ngabantu ngoJuni 2021, sacabanga ukuthi

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mhlawumbe izingane ezingama-50 zazithintekile.

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Kodwa lapho sesiqedile, sasivele siqhube amacala angaphezu
kuka-8,300 ezinyangeni ezingaphansi kweziyisithupha

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esikhungweni sokwamukela i-Pomona Fairplex engangisebenza kuso.

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Sacabanga, 'Hhawu Nkulunkulu wami, lokhu
kuthinta izinkulungwane zezingane,' ngoba sabona

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amacala avela ezikhungweni ezahlukene kakhulu.

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Kodwa-ke, ngo-2023, uHannah Dreier wembula eNew York
Times ukuthi izingane ezingama-85 000 zazilahlekile.

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Futhi ngesikhathi sagcina sixoxa ngalokhu, leyo
yayingaba yisibalo esasisisebenzisa ukukala le nkinga.

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Kodwa empeleni, kubi kakhulu
kunalokho. Kunezikhathi ezine eziningi.

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Ngibheka inani elisetshenziswayo njengamanje njengelithembekile
futhi lichazwe kahle emibhalweni, nakuba lisengumlinganiso nje.

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Inani manje limi ezinganeni ezingama-325 000 ezilahlekile.

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Bayalahlekile. Akekho owaziyo ukuthi baphi noma bakuphi.

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Banyamalala nje. Bathunjwe futhi banyamalala.

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Yebo. Futhi okusabisa wukuthi akekho
owenze lutho ukuze asindise lezi zingane.

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Futhi abantu kumele baqonde ukuthi kuyindaba yezepolitiki.

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Singasungula umkhankaso omkhulu kunawo wonke wokuhlangula izingane
owake wazanywa emlandweni wabantu uma i-HHS ikhipha idatha.

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Chris, ngicabanga ukuthi lokhu
abantu abaningi abangazi ngakho nje.

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Abantu bacabanga, "O Nkulunkulu wami!
Izingane azisekho! Ngingenza ukuthini?"

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Futhi bakholelwa ukuthi abakwazi ukwenza
lutho noma ukuthi akukho okungakwenziwa.

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Eqinisweni, uhulumeni kazwelonke akanayo kuphela idatha
yezingane, kodwa futhi idatha yabazali abakhulisayo lapho

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izingane zabekwa khona, kanye nolwazi olunzulu ngalaba bazali
abakhulisayo, njengokuthi ikheli labo lokugcina elaziwayo.

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Kodwa ngeke bathathe izinyathelo ngokumelene nabo futhi ngeke
baveze idatha; ngisho nangesimemo senkantolo, uMnyango Wezempilo

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ngeke udlulisele lolu lwazi eziphathimandla zokuphepha.

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Futhi ngoba uhulumeni lo ubamba le datha
uyifihla ezikhungweni zokuphepha, akekho owaziyo ukuthi

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izingane ezingaphezu kuka-320,000 zikhona kuphi.

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Futhi lokho akwamukeleki.

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Ngokombono wami, ngaphandle kokusekela
umphumela othile noma isikhundla esithile, lolu

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lwazi lubaluleke kakhulu ekwaziseni umphakathi.

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Kuzoba nokhetho lukazwelonke ezinsukwini ezimbalwa
ezizayo, futhi abantu bazokwenza izinqumo

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bagcwalise iphepha lokuvota noma bakhiphe isibambo sokuvota.

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Kufanele wenze isinqumo esinolwazi.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokombono wami, isikhulu sethu semingcele
uKamala Harris wahola umsebenzi omkhulu kunawo wonke

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wokuhweba ngabantu nokuhweba ngocansi emlandweni womhlaba.

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Futhi ukuze kucace kakhulu, sobabili
sikhuluma ngokuhweba ngabantwana lapha.

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Unolwazi nesipiliyoni mathupha kulesi sikhala.

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Uyibonile.

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Ngiyazi ukuthi namuhla ukhuluma lapha njengomuntu ozimele, kodwa
ngenhlanhla uvela emhlabeni wobungcweti wabahloli jikelele.

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Ngakho-ke, ngizosebenzisa isisho esivamile noma isisho seslangi.

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Uhlakaniphile kancane kunomuntu ojwayelekile.

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Uyazi ukuthi ubona ini lapho ubhekene
nezenzo zobuqili, ezikhohlisayo nezokulawula.

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Unesiphiwo sokubona lokho.

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Ngakho-ke uyabona okwenzekayo kulesi sikhungo ePomona
bese uthi, "Hey, linda umzuzwana. Yini eniyenzayo lapho?"

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Ngisho, tshela ababukeli bethu nabalaleli bethu
kancane ngalokhu; mayelana nokuphendula kwakho ngokushesha:

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Kwenzekani lapha ngempela? Yini oyenzayo?

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Kulungile. Kwakulula kakhulu ukubona ukuthi izingane ezake zaba
nokuhlaselwa ukwesaba okukhulu kwakudingeka zibekwe ngaphansi

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kokuqapha ukuzibulala, zazikhala zifuna abazali bazo, futhi
zisitshela izindaba zokuthi zathakazeliswa zaze zafika lapha.

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Akuthathe isikhathi eside ukuthi
siqaphele ukuthi sinenkinga enzima.

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Bangabantwana. Ngisho, yimpahla ebalulekile.

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Kumele siqinisekise ukuthi lezi
zingane zibekwe emakhaya aphephile.

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Lowo kwakuyisikhathi engabona ngaso
ukuthi lokhu kwakuyinkinga ngalaba bantwana.

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Ngabona ukuthi okuthile bekungeke kube kulungile.

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Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi kubalulekile ukuthi abantu
baqonde ukuthi i-HHS ayiyona i-ejensi yokuphenya ubugebengu.

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Akunalo ulwazi, amakhono, ubuchule noma
uchwepheshe okudingekayo ukuze kuthathwe

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izinyathelo zokulwa namagqubu okuthengisa abantu.

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Kulungile.

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Abakayenzi. Futhi ngeshwa, njengamanje
banomthwalo wokukhulula ngoba bahlulekile ukwenza kanjalo.

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... Lapha futhi, kwenziwa izinqumo zezombusazwe.

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Ngeshwa, kwaba yisinqumo esibi kakhulu sabathathi
bezinqumo kwezepolitiki ukunciphisa izilawuli

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nokuhlolwa kwezokuphepha kwabaqashi abacatshangwayo.

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Futhi siyazi ukuthi abanye balaba baxhasi
bangamalungu ezinhlangano zobugebengu zamazwe ngamazwe.

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I-HHS ayinazo izinsiza ezidingekayo zokuthatha izinyathelo
ngokumelene namagangi nabasolwa bobugebengu abaphezulu.

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Ngeshwa, inqubomgomo ehlulekile yokuvula imingcele isibangele
ukuthi izigebengu ezisezingeni eliphezulu,

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ababulali kanye namalungu ezinhlangano
zobugebengu zamazwe ngamazwe badlule emingceleni yethu.

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Manje futhi bangabaxhasi nabakunakekeli izingane ezisengozini.

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Futhi... akucabangeki!

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Kodwa i-HHS ayiyona i-ejensi yokuphenya ubugebengu.

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Futhi yingakho nje bengazi.

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Uphakamise iphuzu elibalulekile, futhi
ngithanda ukunikeza ulwazi oluthile ngemuva kwalokhu.

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Abanye bababukeli bethu nabalaleli bethu bangase
bangacabangi ngokuvikelwa komngcele okwamanje.

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Ucabanga nge-ICE .

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Ucabanga ngezikhungo zokuphepha ezibhekene
nokungena kwabantu ngokungekho emthethweni.

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Nokho, iphuzu elibalulekile kulo mhlangano
wonke wukuthi izingane ezingahambisani nabazali

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aziyona indaba yamaphoyisa omngcele noma ye-ICE.

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Lokhu kungaphansi kweMnyango Wezempilo Nezinsizakalo
Zomphakathi; Ihhovisi Lokubuyiselwa Kwababaleki (ORR).

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Futhi yilona ihhovisi likahulumeni elibhekele
ngempela ukunakekela, ukuhlinzeka nokuhlaliswa kwezingane.

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Ngakho-ke laba ngabaphathi bezempilo abaphethe le nqubo.

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Njengoba usuvele waphawula, abayona iziphathimandla zokuphepha.

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Abazi ukuthi bangabahlola kanjani abantu noma benze ukuhlolwa.

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Empeleni, baphatha nje izidumbu.

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Futhi babhekene nenhlangano yobugebengu ehlakaniphile kakhulu.

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Yebo.

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Futhi bafuna impahla, futhi leyo mpahla yilezi zingane ezincane.

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Futhi bayakwazi ukusebenzisa lezi zingane
ngokungafanele, ukuzilawula, ukuziguqula zibe imali

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nokuzihlanganisa ndawonye ngezinjongo ezingaziwa nguNkulunkulu.

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Ngempela. Futhi yilokho engikucabanga ukuthi umbukeli
ojwayelekile nabantu abaningi abakuqondi nje: ukuthi

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kunabantu ababi emhlabeni ababheka izingane njengempahla.

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Kulungile.

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Futhi bayabasebenzisa ekuthengisweni kwabantu
ngenhloso yokuxhashazwa emsebenzini noma

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ekuthengisweni ngokocansi, kanti kube kubi kakhulu.

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Ngoba izidakamizwa zithengiswa kanye kuphela;
njengokudla okukodwa kumuntu othengisa izidakamizwa.

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Yebo, bathola imali ngakho, kodwa bayayidayisa kanye kuphela.

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Uma unengane, ungayisebenzisa nsuku zonke.

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Izikhathi eziningi. Izikhathi eziningana ngosuku,
futhi lokho kuyimthombo engenamkhawulo yemali engenayo!

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Futhi yilokho abantu abakudingayo ukuqonda.

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Kukhona abantu abacabanga kanjalo, futhi kumele
sithathe izinyathelo kwezombusazwe ukuvikela izingane!

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Kwamanje kunempi eqhutshwa ngokumelene nezingane.

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Futhi abantu kumele bavuke baqaphele ukuthi singaxazulula
le nkinga, kodwa hhayi ngesimo samanje njengoba sikhona.

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Lolu hlelo ludinga ukwakhiwa kabusha ngokuyisisekelo.

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Futhi ukuphenya nokulawula
umthetho kumele kubuyiselwe ekubalweni.

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Lokhu kudinga igatsha eliqinile lokuphatha.

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Kodwa angase aqale ukusindisa izingane namuhla.

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Kungase kuqale namuhla ngokubhekisa icala
kulaba abenzi bobugebengu, abahwebi ngabantu.

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Kungase kuqale namuhla ukususa ingqalasizinda yokuhweba ngabantu.

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Lokho kungenzeka nanamuhla uma
abantu abafanele bekusezikhundleni.

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Impela!

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Futhi kwezinye izimo, kwakucacile ukuthi abantu ababi
ababehlutha lezi zingane babesebenzisa ikheli elifanayo

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kubaxhasi abaningi nasezinganeni abaningi ababezithatha.

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Ngisho, abazange bazikhathaze ngisho nokwenza amakheli angamanga.

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Abanye balaba bantu babengahlelekile futhi bengazimiseli, ngakho
kwakukhona indlu noma ifulethi lapho kwakubhaliswe

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khona abaxhasi abaningi kanye nezingane cishe
eziyisithupha noma eziyishumi nambili ekhelini elilodwa.

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Ngakho-ke awudingi inqubo yokuhlaziya ejulile ukuze
ubone ukuthi lolu hlelo lwawuxhashazwa yilezi zingela.

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Yebo. Noma ubani onolwazi oluncane lokuhlaziya idatha angabona
ukuthi akunangqondo ukuthi umxhasi anikeze amakheli

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amabili ahlukene noma ukuthi abaxhasi abathathu bahlale
efulethini elilodwa bese besekela izingane eziningana.

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Akuyona isayensi yama-rokhethi.

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Kulungile.

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Futhi iqiniso lokuthi lolu hlelo selusebenza ngendlela yalo
yamanje isikhathi eside kangaka luyisibonakaliso esengeziwe

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sokuthi labo abaphethe lo msebenzi ngokusobala
abakwazi ukuhlonza amanethiwekhi okuhweba

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ngabantu nokuvikela izingane kubathengisi babantu.

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Ngakho-ke kumele kwenzeke ushintsho
olukhulu ukuze kusindiswe lezi zingane!

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Kwakuyinto ejwayelekile yini ukuthi lezi zingane
zithathwe izithombe futhi kuthathwe iminwe yazo?

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Izimpawu zeminwe? Cha. Sathatha izithombe zezingane.

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Lena enye ingxenye ebalulekile yolwazi
okufanele uyazi. I-HHS inesithombe somntwana.

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I-HHS inolwazi. Abazukwabelana ngalo nje.

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Yebo. Ngakho-ke lezi izinkomba ezithembekile.

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Lezi izinkomba ezingasetshenziswa.

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Yebo.

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Ngisho, uma lokho bekwenzeke eminyakeni emithathu
edlule, uNkulunkulu uyazi ukuthi babeyoba kuphi.

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Kodwa kunomsebenzi oyisisekelo wocwaningo ongakwenzeka; amaphoyisa
angathola amakheli nabantu ngabanye futhi afune izingane.

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Unesithombe. Manje akaseseyintombazane eneminyaka engu-12,
mhlawumbe manje eneminyaka engu-14, kodwa

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usenalo isithombe sakhe, incazelo
ejwayelekile, futhi mhlawumbe nophawu lokuthi ungubani.

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Ngakho-ke kunezicelomcele eziningana zamaphoyisa
ezingase zenziwe esigabeni sokuqala ukuze

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kutholakale ukuthi ngubani ongahlangulwa ngokushesha.

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Impela!

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Futhi futhi ukuthi ngubani laba
zigebengu okufanele bamangalelwe, akunjalo?

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Ngempela .

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Tara Rodas: Ngoba uma izingane eziyikhulu zithunyelwa ngokusobala
ekhelini elilodwa, khona-ke ngokwemvelo

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kunomthombo wolwazi okumele uthunyelwe ngqo
eziphathimandla zokuphepha ukuze zikwazi ukuphenya.

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Kodwa abazukukhulula idatha, Chris.

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Akukholakali.

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USenetha Grassley ufake isimangalo sobugebengu.

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USenator Grassley usemkhankasweni wokulwela lezi
zingane ezingahambisani nabazali iminyaka eminingi.

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Wabamba izimemezelo eSenethi ngoJulayi.

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Wafaka ngempela izikhalazo zobugebengu ku-FBI nase-DHS , kodwa
i-HHS yenqaba ukukhulula idatha, ngisho nangemibizo enkantolo.

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Abazange baphendule kuyo.

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Ezimweni eziningi, lokhu kwaholela kuphela
ekutheni uphenyo loMnyango lukwazi

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ukuthola ngaphansi kuka-4% walezo ababezihlosile.

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Ngakho-ke ngaphansi kuka-4% wezingane ababezifuna,
futhi ngaphansi kuka-4% wabathengisi bezingane,

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ngoba i-HHS ayisebenzisani futhi ayiniki idatha kubo.

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Lokho akunakucabangeka.

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I-HHS ithi ukuthini? Bazisekela kanjani lokhu?

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Ingabe basebenzisa imithetho yokuvikela idatha noma
yini? Yini lokhu ukungasebenzisani okungamahlazo?

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Yini...? Yebo. Ngisho... Ngokuvamile banikeza
isizathu esingelutho, noma ngabe siyihlazo kangakanani.

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Kodwa okungenani bayazenza sengathi
bayawuhlonipha umthetho noma bavikela intsha nobumfihlo.

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Ingabe yilokho isizathu sakho?

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Yebo, bathi kuwumfihlo womxhasi,
futhi kubaluleke kubo kunanoma yini enye.

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Futhi lokho, ngokulandelana, kuwumqondo ongamuhla ngokuphelele.

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Yebo. Yebo.

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Abaxhasi abakaze kudingeke babike ku-ORR.

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Ngakho-ke sinikela ingane kumuntu ongaphinde
adingeke ukuthatha ucingo oluvela kuhulumeni kazwelonke.

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Lokho akwenzeki nhlobo.

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Umntwana uvela emngceleni, futhi unenombolo
yocingo negama lomuntu lapha e-United States.

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Yithole kanjani idatha?

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Hhayi-ke, izingane zithi bazitholile endleleni eza lapha.

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Yebo. Bese bekudlulisela lokhu kumaphoyisa ethu omngcele
abahle kakhulu, abasebenza njengendawo yokuxhumana yase-US.

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Kulungile.

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Leli phuzu lokuxhumana lase-US kumele linikeze
ingane ku-HHS kungakapheli amahora angama-72.

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Inhloso yethu kwakuwukudlulisela ingane endaweni yokuxhumana
yase-US kungakapheli izinsuku eziyishumi kuya kweziyishumi nane.

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Labo babebizwa ngokuthi "abaxhasi" bethu.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi abantu abazi ukuthi phakathi kwamaviki
amabili, izingane zinikezwa kubantu lapha e-United

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States abangasoze baphendule olunye ucingo oluvela kuhulumeni.

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Siyadlulisela ukunakekelwa. Yilokho nje.

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Hala! Ngikufisela inhlanhla ngalokho. Akukholakali!

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Asisoze siphathe izingane zaseMelika ngaleyo ndlela.

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Angazi ukuthi kungani siphatha izingane zabokufika kanje.

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: Yebo. Ngizokhuluma into engase izwakale ingahloniphi, kodwa
angisho ngaleyo ndlela; ngifuna ukuveza into ethile ngokucacile.

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Kukhona izindawo kuleli lapho ungenakwamukela inja
ngaphandle kokuhlolwa okujulile komlando nokulandelwa.

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Futhi ngisho lokhu ngokoqobo; ngiyazi lokhu mathupha.

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Uya emcimbini wokwamukela izinja, kufanele
ugcwalise amafomu, ubonise ubufakazi

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bokuzazisa, futhi bakuhlola futhi bakubuza imibuzo.

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Uthola inja bese kuba nokuvakashelwa ekhaya.

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Ngempela, yilokho okwenzekayo.

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Sinesaziso esikhulu nokukhathazeka, kanye
nenqubo yokuhlola kabili impilo nenhlalakahle yenja.

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Futhi ngiyithandi lenja.

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Ngakho ngiyakuqonda lokho futhi angikhalazi ngalokho.

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Kimina mathupha, lokhu ukuphathwa okungalingani kuyinto
engacabangi futhi eyihlanya ngokuphelele okuvela ku-HHS.

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Ngisho, akukho sizathu, akukho incazelo ngalokho.

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: Yebo, akukho incazelo ngalokhu, ngaphandle kokuthi kuyibhizinisi
elinezentengiso zonyaka ezifika ezigidigidi zamadola.

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Masibambelele kulokho.

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Ngifuna sikhulume ngemali.

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Lena ibhizinisi lemali.

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Uyabona, noma kunjalo, ngokuyishilo
kalula nje, bayathengisa izingane, akunjalo?

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Kuyimpahla, imali iyashintshwa izandla, futhi
kukhona ... yibo impahla, impahla ephuzwayo ethuthwa.

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Ubani ozuzayo ngalokhu? Ubani?

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Abakhi abaningi nezinhlangano ezingekho ngaphansi
kukahulumeni zithola izigidi nezigidi zamadola minyaka yonke.

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: Ngakho-ke, ngisho... ake sihlole izindlela zokusebenza kancane
lapha, ukuze abantu babe nombono wokuthi zisebenza kanjani:

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Uma bewela umngcele, bazobanjwa.

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Kodwa ngubani obathatha?

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Ngezinye izikhathi kungamaphoyisa omngcele, kodwa
ngezinye izikhathi amaphoyisa omngcele baqoqa nje

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abantu ndawonye bese bethumela ibhasi noma iminibus.

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Futhi cabanga nje! Leli bhasi noma i-minivan
liyingaphansi kwenkampani yamabhasi noma yokuthutha.

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Abakwenzi lokhu ngenxa yobubele obumsulwa.

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Bagunyazwe nguhulumeni ukuthi basebenzise amabhasi
phakathi kwephuzu A nepuzu B noma phakathi

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kwesikhungo sokwamukela i-A nesikhungo sokucubungula i-C.

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Kodwa yinsizakalo yebhasi.

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Futhi bayagijima... Angazi,
amabhasi ayi-10 kuya kwayi-20 ngosuku.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho.

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Yebo, ngisho nje ukuthi, kusuka kwezi-10 kuya
kwezi-20 engxenyeni ethile yomzila, akunjalo?

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Lezi yizimali ezinkulu zokuthutha: amabhasi, ama-minibasi,
njll., futhi kukhona nezindleko zezindiza ngaphezu kwalokho.

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Futhi-ke kukhona lezi zinhlangano ezingahulumeni, igama nje
elijwayelekile lezinhlangano ezingekho ngaphansi kukahulumeni,

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kodwa ngempela, futhi ngiyaxolisa ukumela lokhu, kaningi
kakhulu lezi yizinhlangano zamabandla ezithole indlela...

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Ngisho, mhlawumbe babe nezinhloso ezinhle ekuqaleni,
babefuna ukusiza abantu, uNkulunkulu ababusise, lokho kuhle.

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Kodwa-ke kwaba ibhizinisi elizuzisayo kubo.

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Futhi kunezinhlangano ezingekho ngaphansi
kukahulumeni ezingokomhlaba kanye nezisekelwe esontweni.

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Abanye babo baqala njengabanikeli ababefuna ukusiza abantu,
kanti abanye babo empeleni banentshisekelo kuphela emalini.

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Kodwa lapha futhi bayakhokhelwa, cishe
ngomuntu ngamunye, ngezimali zokucubungula nokuphatha

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laba bantu – futhi yilokho ngqo okwenza imali.

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Lokhu kuhilela ukuchitha imali eningi kakhulu,
sikhuluma ngamakhulu ezigidi zamadola lapha.

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Yebo! Amakhulu ezigidi, njalo ngenyanga.

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Okuthile abanye abantu abangakwazi ukuqonda, ngokombono wami,
ukuthi inkontileka enganginayo yewebhusayithi engangisebenza

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kuyo yayifaneleka ngaphezu kwezigidi eziyikhulu ngenyanga.

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Akekho ocabanga, "Hawu! Ngizokwembula nje ukuthi
i-ejensi yami noma umhlinzeki wami uthola yonke le

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mali futhi uhlanganyela ekuhwebeni ngabantwana."

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Kulungile...

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Ngiyaxolisa!

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Akukho okubalulekile!

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Ngakho-ke lokhu kuyibhizinisi elikhulu kakhulu.

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Kukhona-ke... ngisho, lezo izindleko
zokuthenga zikahulumeni evulekile nezindleko.

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Futhi abasekhohlo bazokhala bathi:
"Ufuna ukwenzani, nje uvumele bafe ehlane?"

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Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kuyihlobo lwesizathu
esingelona iqiniso — akekho ongase asekele lokho.

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Kodwa kukhona futhi elinye uhlangothi kwalokhu,
okuwukuthi ukudluliselwa kwemali okungekho

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emthethweni kwabaphuli-mthetho okwenzeka ngasese.

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Futhi yilapho ngempela uhulumeni elahlekelwa ukulawula.

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Akunjalo? Ngokushesha nje lapho esenikela lezi zingane kulowo
ongaziwa, sekuba ngokuhweba ngocansi, ukusebenza kwezingane,

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kanye nezinhlobonhlobo zezenzo ezingahlakaniphile,
ezingajwayelekile, zobugebengu neziphambene ezingasetshenziswa

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ukuhlukumeza, ukudlala ngengqondo nokusebenzisa abantu abasha.

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Futhi kukhona uhlangothi olumnyama lonke lwebhizinisi,
imisebenzi eyimfihlo yobugebengu. UNkulunkulu uyazi

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ukuthi imali engakanani ehilelekile. Akekho owaziyo.

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Yebo, yebo. Futhi Chris, siyahlukanisa
izingane nemindeni yazo nakwelezweni labo lasekhaya.

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Kulungile.

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Yilokho abantu abangakuqondi nje.

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Ekuqaleni, uhlelo – ngisho, inhloso
yomqondisi – yilokho esikhuluma ngakho.

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Yini inhloso eyinhloko yohlelo lolu?

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Bengicabanga ukuthi kuwukuhlanganiswa
kwemindeni, futhi abantu abaqala ukucabanga lolu

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hlelo bathi, "Yebo, kuwukuhlanganiswa kwemindeni."

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Nokho, okwamanje akunjalo.

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uHannah Dreier weNew York Times uveze, ngokusekelwe kudatha yakhe
– ngemva kokuhlaziya idatha – ukuthi kwezinye izindawo zamakhodi

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eposi, ingaphansi kuka-10% zezingane ziyavakashela abazali bazo.

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Lokhu akuyona "ukuhlanganiswa komndeni".

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Lena imisebenzi yobugebengu esezingeni elikhulu!

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Izingane zisetshenziswa emafektri okucwasa.

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Izingane ziyathengiswa ukuze zibe
izigqila zocansi. Zisho zona uqobo.

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Izingane eminyakeni emithathu kamuva, ngoba u-Anthony Rubin
waseMuckraker empeleni wathola izingane ezathi eminyakeni

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emithathu kamuva: "Bheka, ngisaboshwa ngenxa yezikweletu."

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Ngisamele imali kumuntu ongikhokhele
ukungena kwami lapha ngokungekho emthethweni.

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Eminyakeni emithathu kamuva, lezi zingane zisasamele imali.

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Akukholakali okwenzekayo lapha!

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Yebo. Chris, ngicabanga ukuthi yilokho abantu
abangakuqondi noma mhlawumbe abangasoze

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bakucabange, ukuthi umuntu ogulayo enza kanjani enganeni.

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Kulungile.

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Futhi lokho, ngicabanga, kungesinye
sezinto ezesabekayo engake ngazibona.

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Kwadingeka ngibheke kule mnyama ngacabanga: O
Nkulunkulu wami, kunabantu abenza izinto ezinjalo.

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Kodwa kukhona futhi odokotela
nabahlengikazi engikhulume nabo mathupha.

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Ngisho, bona... uyazi, babekhalela, bathi,
"Tara, kwakukhona intombazane eneminyaka

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eyisikhombisa eyayinazo zonke lezi zifo ezidlalwa ngocansi."

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Kulungile.

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Ngisho, abantu abaqondi ukuthi
abantu ababi benza kanjani ezinganeni.

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Futhi sabadlulisela ezandleni zabaphuli-mthetho.

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Kulungile.

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Ngingakhuthaza abantu ukuthi babheke imibhalo
eyakhululwa nguSenatara Grassley ngomhlaka 11 Julayi .

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Ungabheka isitatimende sakhe sezindaba bese
ufunda ukuthi le hulumeni ibeke izingane

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ekunakekelweni kwabantu be-MS-13 . Kulungile?

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Bangizigebengu eziyingozi. Kungani
kufanele sinikeze izingane kubo?

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Bayamalungu aziwayo ezinhlanganweni zobugebengu zamazwe ngamazwe.

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Lokho kudlula umcabango.

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Futhi ngempela, Chris, uma bengingakuboni ngamehlo
ami, bengingeke ngikholwe ukuthi uhulumeni

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kazwelonke usephenduke insiza yokulethwa ngamakhava amhlophe.

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Ngisho ukuthi, empeleni
uyisixhumanisi senhlangano ethengisa izingane.

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Yebo, bayayenza.

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Ngisho, akusikho nokuthi ngandlela
thile babambe iqhaza kukho. Bayayenza.

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Baphumeza uhlelo lokubamba
nokuhlukumeza lezi zingane. Umdlalo wabo.

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Yebo.

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Kuyisebenza yakho.

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Yebo. Futhi ukubahlukanisa nemindeni yabo
ekhaya ngokubadonsela kude kuwukuhweba ngabantu.

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Kuyinkohliso enodlame noma ukuphoqelelwa.

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Kulungile.

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Yebo, izingane nabazali bazo,
ngoba izingane zatshela thina lokho.

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Kulungile.

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Uyazi, wonke umuntu angaba nezizathu zakhe.

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Sibheke, mina ngabona amehlo ezingane ezesabayo.

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Ngiyazi lokhu ngoba izingane zangitshela mina nabanye.

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Futhi kunemibiko enezitatimende zezingane. Lokho akunqikazeki.

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Izingane zathi, "Uyazi, ekhaya
eGuatemala, ngangithola kuphela ama-£2.50 ngosuku."

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Kodwa umthengisi wabantu lapha eTexas wangitshela
ukuthi uma ngishiya ikhaya, ngingafika lapha e-United

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States futhi ngithole ama-pound ayisithupha ngehora.

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Ingane nabazali bakholelwa ukuthi
ingane izoba ngcebile njengaye u-Elon Musk.

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Kulungile.

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Kusuka ku-£2.50 ngosuku kuya ku-£6 ngehora.

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Futhi akunakucabangeka ukuthi
singadonsa amaqembu abantu abasengozini.

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Futhi eGuatemala kuza izingane
zomdabu ezingakhulumi ngisho isiSpanish.

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Ngempela.

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Ngakho-ke sidinga ngempela ukucabanga ngalokho okwenzekayo lapha.

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Kufanele kwethulwe iziqondiso ezintsha.

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Abantu abanamava ekuphenyweni
komthetho kumele bakwazi ukuvikela izingane.

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Futhi uMnyango Wezempilo kumele ukhiphe idatha ukuze
izingane zitholakale futhi izigebengu zibhekane namacala.

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Asikwazi ukuqhubeka sivumela lokhu kwenzeke lapha
e-United States ezinganeni ezisengozini, ezincane.

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Lokho kuyinto engacabangeki ngempela.

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Yebo! Kumele simangalele izilwane
eziphethe amanethiwekhi enza lokhu.

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Ngokombono wami, kufanele sibamangalele izikhulu zikahulumeni
ezenze lezi zinqumo futhi ezabangela lokhu kwenzeke.

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Bahlukaniswe bodwa. Kodwa nabo kumele babophezeleke.

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Impela, abaqambi bobugebengu
abangqondongqondo abangemuva kwalokhu kumele babekwe icala.

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Futhi-ke kumele sisindise lezi zingane ezihluphekayo.

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Ingxoxo noTara Rodas yabanjelwa ngo-Okthoba
2024, ngaphambi kokuba uDonald Trump aphinde

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akhethwe njengoMongameli wase-United States.

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Ngemva kokhetho, uNgqongqoshe wezempilo omusha kaTrump, uRobert
F. Kennedy Jr., wathi obala emhlanganweni wekhabhinethi

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ukuthi uMnyango Wezempilo ngaphansi kukaBiden wazenza "umlingani
ekuthengisweni kwezingane ngenhloso yokocansi nobugqila."

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Ngakho-ke, uTrump ulethe inguquko engcono?

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Intatheli yezophenyo uRyan Matta unokungabaza ngalokhu.

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Usezama iminyaka eminingi ukuthola ukuthi
izingane ezilahlekile zikhona kuphi, futhi useke

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wenza amadokhumentari amaningana ngalolu daba.

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Engxoxweni ngoMeyi 2025, waveza ukudumazeka ngokuthi
uhulumeni kaTrump wayengakabuyiseli izingane

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ezingu-300 000 ngemuva kwezinsuku eziyi-100 ekusebenzeni.

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Uveza ukuthi uhulumeni unamanombolo weselula namakheli
abaxhasi abafakwe kubo izingane, futhi bangalandelwa kalula.

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Waphinde wagxeka indlela uhulumeni
abaphatha ngayo izinhlelo ze-Southwest Key.

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I-Southwest Key Programmes iyinhlangano enkulu
esekwe e-United States esebenza ezifundazweni eziningana.

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Inikeza uhla olubanzi lwezinsizakalo, kuhlanganise nokuhlaliswa
kwababaleki abangu-immigranti abancane abangahambisani nabanye.

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URyan Matta ukholelwa ukuthi izikhungo
ezingama-30 kuya kwezingama-40 kulo hlelo

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zimelela amaqembu amakhulu okuthengisa izingane.

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Babebudlova kakhulu kangangokuba uMmeli-Jikelele
kaBiden, uMerrick Garland, wafaka icala ngokumelene nalezi

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zinhlangano, njengoba kuthiwa izingane zadlwengulwa lapho.

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Nokho, uMmeli-Jikelele kaTrump, uPam Bondi, wanquma ngokushesha
ngemva kokuthatha isikhundla ukuthi icala kumele lichithwe.

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Lokhu kumangaza kakhulu, uma kubhekwa ukuthi
isimemezelo sokuqala sasikhipha amanzi echibini.

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Uma kubhekwa isitatimende sikaNgqongqoshe Wezempilo uKennedy
sokuthi uMnyango wakhe wawuhileleka ekuthengisweni

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kocansi lwezingane ngaphansi kukahulumeni odlule,
umuntu uyazibuza ukuthi uphenyo lwezomthetho luse kuphi.

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Uma uTara Rodas ethi uKamala Harris wayephethe umsebenzi omkhulu
kunawo wonke wokuhweba ngabantu nokuhweba ngocansi,

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khona-ke kufanele kuqalwe uphenyo ngaye kanye nalabo
abaphethe eMnyangweni Wezempilo ngokushesha okukhulu.

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Nokho, lokhu akukabonakali okwamanje.

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Ngesikhathi imikhankaso yakhe yokuba umongameli okokuqala, uTrump
wayesebememezele ukuthi uhlose ukubeka uHillary Clinton ejele.

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Nokho, ngisho nokuphenywa akuzange kuqalwe ngemva kokhetho.

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Naseskandali ka-Epstein, uhulumeni kaTrump
kuze kube manje wehlulekile ukuletha

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isithembiso sawo sokuphenya nokudalula amaqiniso.

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Akumangazi uma umuntu ecabangela ukuthi izisulu nezifakazi
eziningi zithi u-Epstein wayengekho yedwa,

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kodwa izingxenye ezinkulu zomphakathi wezepolitiki
nowesimanje zazibandakanyekile kulesi sikhuni.

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Lokhu kuvusa umbuzo wokuthi, esimweni sokuhweba ngabantwana
emngceleni wase-US, ngabe abasolwa abancane kuphela abagxilwe

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ukunakwa kwabezindaba, kanti izinhlanzi ezinkulu, amanethiwekhi,
izinhlangano ezingekho ngaphansi kukahulumeni,

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kanye nalabo abahileleka kuhulumeni
naseminyangweni kahulumeni bayashiywa bengathintwanga futhi.

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Uma nje lezi zingavalwanga, kumele
kucatshangwe ukuthi impumelelo evezwayo iyindlela nje

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yokudala ithuli ukuze kudukiswe umphakathi.