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Kusukela mhla ziyi-3 kuya kweziyi-5 ku-Okthoba
2025, iKhongresi Yemithetho Entsha

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Yedemokhrasi yabanjelwa lapha e-Apolda eduze kwe-Weimar.

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Izimemo zakhishwa yizinhlangano i-Germany Stands Up,
i-Wabeo, i-ZAAVV, i-Klagepaten kanye ne-Freedom Begins with No.

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Nabahlanganyeli cishe abangama-90 abavela emiphakathini
yezombusazwe ehlukene, ezinhlelweni nasemikhankasweni,

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kuxoxwe ngezinkinga zomphakathi, zezombusazwe nezakhiwo
ezikhona, futhi ekugcineni kwavunyelwana ngezixazululo ezimbili.

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Lena inqubo yokuvota esekelwe hhayi ekutheni yebo,
kodwa ekutheni cha. I-Kla.TV ishicilele imibono ngawe.

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Umbuzo wami wokuqala, uvela kuphi?

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Ovela e-Augsburg.

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Ngivela esifundeni sase-Hochtaunus.

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Okuvela eduze kweBerlin.

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Ngivela eBrandenburg, enyakatho nje kweBerlin.

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Ngivela eFrankfurt am Main.

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Ngivela eBochum endaweni yaseRuhr.

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Ngivela eFrankfurt am Main.

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Ngivela eBavaria, esifundeni sase-Upper Franconia.

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Yini ekukhuthazile ukuthi uze kulo mhlangano?

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Yebo, ngisekulesi sigaba esiphansi futhi
bengifuna nje ukukhuluma nabantu abaningi

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ngedemokhrasi nokuthi singaqhubeka kanjani ndawonye.

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Hhayi-ke, sesibe ekumelaneni iminyaka eminingi manje, futhi manje
sekuyisikhathi sokudala umphakathi ongcono, yingakho sasikhona

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lapha kule mpelasonto ukubona ukuthi yini engaba nokwenzeka.

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Ngithinteka kakhulu yisihloko sobuDemokhrasi basezansi futhi
nangendlela imibono ekhiqizwa ngayo kulo kongresi, ngoba

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okokuqala kunokuphambuka okuphelele kwifomethi evamile
yepodiumi engaphambili, lapho labo abahleli epodiumini beqoka

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kusengaphambili ukuthi izixuku kumele zibe nemibono emi kanjani.

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Lesi yisikhathi sokuqala sisebenzisa
izakhiwo ukuqoqa imibono yomuntu ngamunye evela

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eKongresini bese sifinyelela esivumelwaneni.

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Ukuvumelana kubhekisela enqubweni lapho iqembu
lifinyelela umbono ofanayo, ovunyelwene ngawo – ukuvumelana.

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Ngokuphambene nokuvota kwendabuko okususelwe emgomeni wobuningi,
ukufuna ukuvumelana okuhlelekile akufuni isixazululo

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esinamavoti amaningi athi yebo, kodwa kunalokho
ifuna esinokumelana okuncane kakhulu phakathi neqembu.

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Lokhu kukhuthaza izinqumo ezibandakanya wonke umuntu
nezisimeme, lapho amazwi athule noma awagxeki nawo ezwa.

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Singabona ukuthi idemokhrasi yethu ayisekho idemokhrasi yethu.

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Futhi sifuna ukuthola indlela entsha
yokubuyisela ubuhlakani bokuzibusa kwabantu.

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Izikhathi zomlando ngezinye izikhathi zingase
zingabonakali njengezikhathi zomlando nhlobo.

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Hhayi-ke, asikho eHollywood, akekho oze izolo ngomkhosi omkhulu.

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Akuzange kube bonke abantu abavele bamile ngaphandle
ehholo bese begijima lapha besho bathi, "Kukhona okwenzekile."

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Iqhawe lakonke – angazi nokuthi ngubani iqhawe – yena wena!

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Wayengekho ekugqamile, futhi wonke umuntu
wamhlonipha wathi manje sekukhona okuthile okushintshile.

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Kodwa okuthile komlando kwenzeke izolo.

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Ithuba kuphela esinalo lokwenza lokho
ukuthi singadukiswa futhi singazibhubhisi.

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Futhi esikwenzile namuhla, noma manje, kulezi zinsuku ezimbili,
wukuthi siqale umzamo wokudlulela ngaphandle kwalokhu .

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Futhi ukusho ukuthi amandla okushintsha
esiwazuzwayo aqondiswe kuphela ezindaweni zamandla.

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Okungukuthi, ngokusho kokuthi lokho esikwenzayo,
okungukuthi isinqumo esisenzile sokwehlisa izimfuneko

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zama-referendamu, kuwukubeka amandla ezandleni zabantu.

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Siyakhipha amandla abo futhi siwaletha kithi.

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Futhi ithuba kuphela esinalo lokwenza
lokho wukungadukiswa ingqondo nokungazilimazi.

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Konke esikusho kungukukhuluma
okungenamsebenzi uma singenamandla okuqhuba imibono yethu.

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Yilokho esinqume lapha izolo.

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Manje ngihlangene noRalf Ludwig,
omunye wabasunguli balomhlangano.

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Futhi, umbuzo wami: injongo yale ngqungquthela iyini?

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Inhloso yale ngqungquthela ukuhlanganisa amaqembu ahlukahlukene
amaningi, wonke anezindaba ezinkulu nezibalulekile kwezepolitiki,

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ukuze bakwazi ukuthola nokubumba isihloko esivamile,
umqondo ovamile wazo zonke izinhlangano zezepolitiki ndawonye.

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Sesivele senze lokho, okungukuthi kumele sivuse umbuzo wamandla.

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Akunandaba ukuthi sinenkinga muni,
singayisebenzisa kuphela uma abantu belizwe,

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izakhamuzi zalizwe, nabo bengamandla kwezepolitiki.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi empeleni uyakwazi
ukuzinqumela ngezindaba zezepolitiki.

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Futhi wawuphatha kanjani ukubambisana nezinhlangano
ezahlukene, imibono ehlukene nobuntu obuhlukahlukene?

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Hhayi-ke, njengoba ubona, namuhla
usuku lokugcina. Ngikhathele kakhulu.

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Sinezimilo eziqinile lapha, abantu abaqinile abanamazinga
abalulekile okufanele babhekane nawo. Bekuyingxoxo enzima futhi

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kwakungekho njalo kulula, kodwa yilokho okufanele kube njalo.

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Kodwa ekugcineni sathola umphumela omuhle ngoba ngikholelwa
ukuthi wonke umuntu uyaqonda ukuthi le ndaba ibalulekile,

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okungukuthi ukuze umuntu aqhube uhlelo lwakhe, kumele abe
namandla okuthatha izinqumo kwezepolitiki, ukuthi le

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yindaba ebaluleke kakhulu kuwo wonke umuntu, ukuthi le,
njengoba ngishilo, yindaba eyisisekelo kuwo wonke umuntu.

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Futhi lokho kwasebenza ngokumangalisayo. Ngicabanga ukuthi
yilokho okwenza kube kujabulisa kakhulu: wonke umuntu angaqhubeka

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nokwenza okwakhe, abe yena uqobo, enze izinto
ngendlela yakhe, bese nje engeza enye ingqikithi

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kulesi sihlanganyelo, okungukuthi umbuzo wamandla.

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Ngihlangene noStephanie Tsomakaeva,
omunye wabakhuthazi nabahleli balomhlangano.

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Umbuzo wami wokuqala uwukuthi, injongo yale ngqungquthela iyini?

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Yebo, sawubona, ngiyabonga ngokuba lapha.

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Inhloso yethu kulo kongresi akusikho ukwamukela imithetho
emisha yedemokhrasi, kodwa ukufinyelela esivumelwaneni ngayo.

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Sihlangene lapha nabantu abavela ezinhlelweni ezahlukene,
emaqenjini, noma nje abantu abanentshisekelo kulesi sihloko,

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ukuze sithole ukuthi singayidlulisela kanjani amandla okuthatha
izinqumo kusuka kubaphathi bezepolitiki aye kubantu, ukuthi

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singazinqumela kanjani thina siqu, nokuthi
singawashintsha kanjani la migaqo ngezindlela

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ezijwayelekile, ezimisiwe ngumthetho noma ezihambisana nawo.

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Yebo, ngiyabonga. Futhi kwaba kanjani ukufinyelela esivumelwaneni
lapha nabantu abahlukene abanezinyakazo, imicabango nemibono?

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Yebo, empeleni kuyinselelo, noma ngempela
kuwumkhuba wokufunda, ngingasho ngisho.

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Ukuvumelana kuyinto ehlukile
ngokuyisisekelo kunokuvota "yebo" noma "cha".

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Ngokuqinisekile inenzuzo yokuthi anihlukanisi.

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Yize sibe nezingxoxo eziphikisanayo kakhulu lapha,
futhi ngomzwelo omningi, sisengumqembu ozizwa njengomndeni.

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Kodwa-ke, sinenkinga yokuthola amagama afanele nokuqonda imibuzo
ngokunembile, okusho ukuqonda ngempela omunye

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nomunye nokuzimisela ukulalela nokunikeza isikhathi nendawo
yokuthola amagama afanele, okuyinselelo yangempela.

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Futhi-ke kunempela ukuthi awusasho ukuthi
usekela ini, kodwa ukuthi yini ongaphikisi ngayo.

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Futhi wenza lokho ngezandla zakho. Futhi yilona
elinye inselelo, ngoba abantu abajwayele ukwenza lokho.

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Futhi lokho kwakuyisivivinyo sangempela izolo ebusuku.

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Ngizokwenza kanjani manje? Ngizokwenza ngale
ndlela, noma ngizokwenza ngale ndlela nangaleyo ndlela?

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Yebo, Ngicabanga ukuthi lolu hlelo lokufunda luyamangalisa, luye
lwabonisa ukuthi ungafinyelela esixazululweni nabantu abahlukene

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kakhulu ngaphandle kokuphikisana, ngaphandle kokubhujisana,
ngaphandle kokulwa ekugcineni, njengoba kuvame ukwenzeka

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kwezombusazwe. Uma sikhipha lokhu emhlabeni futhi siqala ukwakha
ukuvumelana ezingeni elikhulu lezombusazwe,

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nakanjani kuzoholela emhlabeni onokuthula okukhulu
kithi sonke. Futhi yilokho okwaba ukuqala lapha.

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Yebo, ngiyabonga kakhulu. Futhi yini
isiphetho sakho siqu esivela kulo kongresi?

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Yebo, ngakuthola kujabulisa
kakhulu. Ngikhathele kakhulu ngokwami.

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Ngakho-ke, ekuqaleni kwakukhathaza
kakhulu kimi, kodwa umzamo uyafaneleka.

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Futhi ngikholelwa ukuthi besinethuba elibalulekile emlandweni
namuhla, izolo, lapho sathatha leso sinqumo, ngoba

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sikwazile ukuhlanganisa abantu abaningi abahlukene,
izinhlangano namaqembu. Futhi isiphetho sami simuhle kakhulu.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi manje sesiya phambili futhi sizokwakha umfutho
ozohola amandla okushintsha akhona phakathi

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kwabantu, okuholela ekutheni abantu bathathe amandla
okuthatha izinqumo kwezepolitiki ezandleni zabo.

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Futhi zazibalulekile kanjani
emlandweni? Yini eyayikhethekile ngalolosuku?

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Ngokomlando, lolu hlobo lwezinto alukaze lwenzeke ngaphambili,
lapho wonke umuntu ezama ukuthola amaphuzu

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ezombusazwe ngezindaba zakhe siqu futhi ekholelwa ukuthi
izindaba zakhe siqu zanele ukubangela ushintsho.

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Kodwa siyabona lokho. Singaphuma emigwaqweni nezinkulungwane
eziningi, ngisho nezinkulungwane ezingamakhulu zabantu,

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sizovukela impi, kodwa abezepolitiki baqhubeka
sengathi laba bantu bebengakaze babe khona. Lokhu

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kwakunjalo nasesikhathini sobhubhane we-coronavirus.

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Sahamba emigwaqweni nabantu abangamakhulu ezinkulungwane,
futhi izinyathelo zafezeka. Kwazigcina kuqhubeka njengakuqala.

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Futhi okwamanje okubalulekile emlandweni wukuthi lezi zinhlangano
sezibonile futhi zakuqonda lokhu, ngaphezu kwemigqa yezimfundiso,

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yebo, ngokuphelele ngaphezu kwemigqa yezombusazwe nezimfundiso.

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Akubalulekile ukuthi abantu bemi kuphi, sebebonile.

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Manje kumele sihlangane njengabantu bonke
futhi sithathe amandla ezandleni zethu.

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Futhi lapho sesinamandla ezandleni zethu, singaphinde sixoxe
ngezindaba ngazinye, ngoba ngeke sibe sesihleli nje

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etafuleni labajwayelekile, kodwa sizobe
sesiphakathi nendawo yezinto futhi sikwazi ukwenza izinqumo.

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Futhi lokho nje kuyindaba yomlando, ukuthi abantu baqonda.

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Asisafuni amandla abe phezulu.
Sifuna amandla abe ezandleni zethu.

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Ngifuna futhi ukuphawula nge-WABEO futhi.

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WABEO izoba enye yezinhlangano
ezibaluleke kakhulu zama-referendamu ngoba

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iWABEO ilandela ukhetho kuzo zonke izigaba.

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Futhi 'ngokubanzi' kusho nokubheka ukubalwa kwamavoti
emireferendamu, ngoba enye yezingozi

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esibhekene nazo wukuthi, uma singanaki indlela
amavoti abalwa ngayo, singahle sihlulwe ngokuncane.

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Yini oyithandile ngalezi zinsuku?

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Yebo, ukuvumelana okuhlelekile, njengomgomo, futhi
kwesinye isikhathi lapho iqembu elikhulu kakhulu

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livumelana ngento ethile, ngendlela ethile yokuziphatha.

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Uma lokhu ngempela kuthola amandla bese kuqala
ukuhamba, kuzoba kufanelekile ngempela umzamo.

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Umbono wokuthi sonke sasivunyelwe ukuzibandakanya
mathupha nokuthi kwakungekho izikhulumi ezazilawula konke.

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Bekuhle ukwazi ukuthi ukuvumelana kusebenza kanjani, kwenziwa
kanjani, nokuthi abantu abaningi ngempela babambe iqhaza

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ngemibono neziphakamiso, ngenhloso yokuhlanganisa imibono, ukuze
kutholakale umphumela owodwa, emibili noma emithathu efanayo.

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Singenza ngempela ini? Yini engcono kakhulu
esingayenza ukuze ilizwe lethu libuyele endleleni efanele?

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Kukhona izingqondo eziningi eziphaphile
lapha ezinomdlandla wangempela wokusebenzisana,

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ukuthuthukisa izixazululo nokuzisebenzisa.

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Nakuba ngingilungu elivela phansi, umqondo wokwakha
ukuvumelana wawungacaci kimi esikhathini esedlule.

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Ngakho-ke umbono wami wokuthi
ukuvumelana kusebenza kahle kangakanani usujulile.

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Futhi ngigqugquzelwe kakhulu ukuqhubeka nokusebenza
futhi ngiphinde ngibe nethemba lokuthi sizothuthuka.

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Uzothatha ini wena mathupha kulezi zinsuku?

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Kukhona abantu abaningi abazinikele abafuna ukusebenza
ngendlela enomthelela omuhle ekuthuthukiseni idemokhrasi.

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Kuyenzeka ukuvumelana ngezihloko ezithile lapho
kunokuvumelana khona, futhi isiko lengxoxo lingaba lihle

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kakhulu phakathi kwabo bonke laba bantu abahlukene kakhulu.

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Ngiyazi kakade ukuthi okufanele
ngikwenze, futhi ngizoqhubeka ngikwenza.

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Futhi mina mathupha, kuhlale kuyinto enhle
ukuhlangana nabantu abanjengalapha, abakhuthele kakhulu.

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Ukwakha ubudlelwano kubalulekile njalo,
ukuhlangana futhi, ukushintshisana ngemibono.

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Abantu abaningi abasha engixhumene nabo,
abantu abahle engihlangane nabo lapha.

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Njengoba ngisanda kusho, akulula
ukusebenzela umphakathi omusha. Sesivele sinendlela

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zedemokhrasi, kodwa izithiyo ziphezulu kakhulu.

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Futhi sidinga ukusebenza ekunciphiseni lezi.

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Ngiyakuqonda ukuthi kumele siqaphe ukuze singadukiswa yizindaba
ezingasemaceleni futhi singazilimazi omunye nomunye, kodwa sigxile

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ekufezeni inhloso yokubuyisela ubuholi ngokwezifiso zabantu.

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Ngakho-ke, sesifike ekupheleni. Yini
umphumela walamazinsuku ezintathu?

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Yebo, umphumela walama masuku amathathu wukuthi sesisungule
amaqembu okusebenza futhi manje sifuna

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ukusebenzisa lawa maqembu okusebenza ukuze sifake
izichibiyelo somthethosisekelo emazweni ahlangene.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi sesisungule
amaqembu okusebenza ayisikhombisa jikelele.

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Manje sekuyisikhathi sokuqala: ukwakha ingqalasizinda
yezobuchwepheshe, ukwakha ingqalasizinda yabasebenzi,

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ukumaketha, ezokuxhumana nomphakathi, ukuhlaziywa
kwezingozi – zonke lezi zindaba manje ezidinga ukubhekwa.

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Impela, uxhaso lwezimali kanye nokuvikeleka kwalolu xhaso
kubalulekile, njengokucubungula ngokomthetho zonke izindaba,

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ngoba kunezidingo ezithile okufanele zihlangatshezwane nazo.

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Manje-ke siyaqhubeka nokusebenziseka kwalo, singasho kanjalo.

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Futhi kuzoqhubeka nini?

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Yebo, amaqembu okusebenza azokwethula imihlangano ngokushesha.

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Manje sesivumelene ukuqhubeka njalo ezinyangeni ezimbili
ngomhlangano omkhulu, okusho ukuthi

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ngokuyisisekelo siyaqhubeka nekongresi eku-inthanethi
njengomhlangano omkhulu njalo ezinyangeni ezimbili.

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Kusazobonakala ukuthi izikhathi zokubonana
zizohlala zenzeka njalo ezinyangeni ezimbili noma

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ukuthi izikhawu zizoba zimfushane noma zibe zinde.

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Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi ngonyaka ozayo,
cishe ezinyangeni eziyisithupha, sizobamba

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ingqungquthela elandelayo ye-analogue futhi.

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Yebo, ngiyabonga ngokulungiselela
lokhu, nangokwethu sonke esabambe iqhaza.

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Yebo, ngiyabonga ngokuba khona nokubika ngakho. Ngiyabonga!

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