1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,234 2 00:00:00,234 --> 00:00:04,648 In our studio today I welcome lawyer Ralf Ludwig. 3 00:00:04,648 --> 00:00:11,757 Thank you very much for taking the time to answer our exciting, burning questions! 4 00:00:11,757 --> 00:00:15,804 You are co-founder of the so-called ZAAVV. 5 00:00:15,804 --> 00:00:24,488 The ZAAVV - I'll read it out: ZAAVV stands for Center for the Reappraisal, Clarification, Legal 6 00:00:24,488 --> 00:00:30,062 Prosecution and Prevention of Crimes against Humanity. 7 00:00:30,062 --> 00:00:38,844 The ZAAVV was created during the - I would say - recent past, which I personally experienced as extremely oppressive, 8 00:00:38,844 --> 00:00:43,324 threatening, restrictive, in other words really cruel. 9 00:00:43,324 --> 00:00:51,906 And that's how this ZAAVV came about, with the goal: This must not happen again, we must reappraise this: 10 00:00:51,906 --> 00:00:55,367 What happened there must never happen again! 11 00:00:55,367 --> 00:01:05,937 Now the thing is, during that very time - that Covid time, pandemic time - many coercive measures were prescribed, where it 12 00:01:05,937 --> 00:01:13,585 has now emerged in retrospect through the released protocols of the Robert Koch Institute 13 00:01:13,585 --> 00:01:18,007 that there was no medical need for them at all. 14 00:01:18,007 --> 00:01:28,117 In other words, measures were imposed on us simply for political reasons, not based on medical grounds at all. 15 00:01:28,117 --> 00:01:33,998 And that brings me to the point of why I, why we at Kla.TV, want to talk to you 16 00:01:33,998 --> 00:01:38,265 specifically. And we want to talk about practical matters. 17 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:44,617 The Standing Vaccination Commission strongly recommends polio vaccination. 18 00:01:44,617 --> 00:01:52,111 There are also repeated discussions and voices saying that polio vaccination should be made compulsory. 19 00:01:52,111 --> 00:01:57,407 It was discontinued back then, but it would be time to reintroduce it. 20 00:01:57,407 --> 00:02:03,373 And of course, as a citizen, I question this at first. Do I want this, do I have to do 21 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:06,837 this, should I do this? And I inform myself. 22 00:02:06,837 --> 00:02:13,281 And the other day, I read an interesting report by Torsten Engelbrecht and Hans Tolzin. 23 00:02:13,281 --> 00:02:24,343 They, in turn, write in their report that these polio symptoms, that is, these signs of paralysis and so on, can 24 00:02:24,343 --> 00:02:34,837 also be caused by poisoning - DDT, arsenic, lead and so on - which can produce exactly the same symptoms. 25 00:02:34,837 --> 00:02:39,621 So then you also have someone who supposedly has polio. 26 00:02:39,621 --> 00:02:47,582 And it's not entirely clear to Professor Dr. Bhakdi either. 27 00:02:47,582 --> 00:02:52,254 Virus: What supports the virus? What else is there? And so on. 28 00:02:52,254 --> 00:02:56,589 It is in itself something that is fraught with many question marks. 29 00:02:56,589 --> 00:02:59,237 Hence my question to you as a lawyer: 30 00:02:59,237 --> 00:03:05,382 If I, as a citizen, were to have a polio vaccination... - if something like this were to become compulsory again, 31 00:03:05,382 --> 00:03:13,841 for example - and the matter is unclear, is it even permissible to expect a citizen to have such a vaccination? 32 00:03:13,841 --> 00:03:19,629 Well, the standard legal answer is that it depends. 33 00:03:19,629 --> 00:03:27,152 Unfortunately, we have seen in the Corona period that the courts did not protect people and that the courts... 34 00:03:27,152 --> 00:03:33,908 First of all, I would always say that it is an individual decision and medical measures should 35 00:03:33,908 --> 00:03:38,347 never be carried out on people against their will. 36 00:03:38,347 --> 00:03:43,609 That is actually what we have learned and taken with us from the Nazi era. 37 00:03:43,609 --> 00:03:49,043 Human experiments were carried out, people were treated against their will. 38 00:03:49,043 --> 00:03:55,385 And that is precisely why one of the lessons of the Nazi era was: It must never happen again! 39 00:03:55,385 --> 00:03:57,238 So 40s protocols or whatever they're called, right? 40 00:03:57,238 --> 00:04:03,897 Exactly, but it is essentially about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the protocols 41 00:04:03,897 --> 00:04:07,754 or catalogs of fundamental rights derived from it. 42 00:04:07,754 --> 00:04:13,668 There is a Bioethics Convention, which incidentally has not been ratified by Germany. 43 00:04:13,668 --> 00:04:19,660 But the Bioethics Convention includes this, as does the European Charter of Fundamental Rights. 44 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:30,214 So it is said again and again: No forced medication, no medical therapy against a person's will! 45 00:04:30,214 --> 00:04:37,254 And that was really restricted for the first time during the Covid period. 46 00:04:37,254 --> 00:04:41,347 And then the politicians more or less realized: We can do this. 47 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:46,191 And the judiciary, which is supposed to be there as a corrective, did not make this correction. 48 00:04:46,191 --> 00:04:48,386 First of all, that's the experience we have. 49 00:04:48,386 --> 00:04:55,466 And that is also the danger that, as you said, is still there from this most bitter time, and incidentally also one of 50 00:04:55,466 --> 00:05:02,252 the reasons why the ZAAVV exists, so that we can intervene at precisely this point and raise our finger and say: 51 00:05:02,252 --> 00:05:06,119 Wait a minute, we actually have the basic rule. 52 00:05:06,119 --> 00:05:13,710 And since this Bioethics Convention has been in existence - that is, it has actually been under discussion since the 1990s - the 53 00:05:13,710 --> 00:05:19,818 path has actually been towards defining more and more clearly and establishing more clearly that no one 54 00:05:19,818 --> 00:05:23,676 may be treated therapeutically against their will. 55 00:05:23,676 --> 00:05:33,329 But obviously this view of human rights contradicts pharmaceutical interests and more or less contradicts a 56 00:05:33,329 --> 00:05:38,478 large global industry that makes a lot of money from it. 57 00:05:38,478 --> 00:05:40,847 Yes, that's how we perceived it during the Covid period. 58 00:05:40,847 --> 00:05:43,777 That's exactly how it was before the Covid pandemic. 59 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:45,686 This is also the case now after the Covid period. 60 00:05:45,686 --> 00:05:52,379 So there's a lot of money involved, a lot of power, influence, spheres of interest and so on. 61 00:05:52,379 --> 00:05:54,777 And you just mentioned the STIKO . 62 00:05:54,777 --> 00:06:00,980 Of course, the STIKO is also precisely an instrument for implementing these ideas. We must not forget that. 63 00:06:00,980 --> 00:06:05,135 So the STIKO - if you take a closer look at how the STIKO actually works... 64 00:06:05,135 --> 00:06:11,846 So the STIKO is a commission, I think it consists of 18 members. 65 00:06:11,846 --> 00:06:16,596 And in this STIKO, in this standing vaccination commission, they form so-called subcommittees. 66 00:06:16,596 --> 00:06:21,283 In other words, there is a Covid committee - or working groups. 67 00:06:21,283 --> 00:06:27,336 There is a working group for various disease patterns and for the measures that they then review, 68 00:06:27,336 --> 00:06:31,002 whether we make a vaccination recommendation or not. 69 00:06:31,002 --> 00:06:37,416 And then there are clear guidelines. So in principle, if you take a closer look, everything is well regulated by law. 70 00:06:37,416 --> 00:06:40,860 Because the STIKO is actually supposed to make a recommendation. 71 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:49,369 They receive evaluations of studies that exist on these specific disease patterns. 72 00:06:49,369 --> 00:06:55,080 And these studies are then classified on the basis of an evidence scale . 73 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,682 In other words, we know that this is a study in which many participants took part and which was double-blind . 74 00:07:00,682 --> 00:07:08,416 So the evidence of such a study is classified according to scientific criteria, and then the STIKO members, or first of all 75 00:07:08,416 --> 00:07:14,954 the members of the committee, who then make a recommendation to the STIKO, get more or less a scientific 76 00:07:14,954 --> 00:07:20,682 overview of what the current situation is with regard to the disease pattern in question. 77 00:07:20,682 --> 00:07:27,111 So what do we know more precisely about this disease, what do we know about the symptoms of this disease, what do we know about 78 00:07:27,111 --> 00:07:33,337 the course of this disease, what do we know about the severity of the disease, what do we know about medical substances, in 79 00:07:33,337 --> 00:07:39,518 this case vaccinations, against this disease, how effective are these vaccinations, what are the side effects and so on. 80 00:07:39,518 --> 00:07:44,900 And according to this evidence, the STIKO should then actually make a recommendation or not. 81 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:45,674 Yes. 82 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:50,670 The problem, however, is that there are often no studies that actually argue for one or 83 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:53,537 the other from a scientific point of view. 84 00:07:53,537 --> 00:07:56,531 That's the main problem. And now comes the trick... 85 00:07:56,531 --> 00:07:58,109 A very brief question here: 86 00:07:58,109 --> 00:08:09,071 Does that mean that perhaps the aspect of poisoning, for example, was not taken into account at all in this weighing-up process? 87 00:08:09,071 --> 00:08:18,998 First of all - I'll get to that in a moment - first of all, the question is what exactly do these studies say? 88 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:21,873 But what is the level of evidence for these studies? 89 00:08:21,873 --> 00:08:28,404 Yes, so the first question is whether the evidence is very high, high, moderate, low or very low. 90 00:08:28,404 --> 00:08:32,388 In most cases, we have no studies that go beyond moderate evidence. 91 00:08:32,388 --> 00:08:39,481 But then it is also possible, for example, that studies that say that these symptoms we attribute to this 92 00:08:39,481 --> 00:08:43,000 disease may also have been triggered in other ways. 93 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,037 So that is, I think, what you are referring to in this elaboration... 94 00:08:48,037 --> 00:08:55,271 So it is quite possible that we call something polio that is not polio at all. 95 00:08:55,271 --> 00:09:02,771 Or, if you go back to the Covid period, that we call something Covid - Covid is the disease, the coronavirus disease, the 96 00:09:02,771 --> 00:09:10,642 illness - that we call something Covid that is not Covid at all, but which only has the symptoms, such as a sore throat, cough, 97 00:09:10,642 --> 00:09:15,539 headache, fatigue or something else, which has completely different causes, but 98 00:09:15,539 --> 00:09:18,841 which we still call Covid. We don't know that. 99 00:09:18,841 --> 00:09:20,816 As a viral disease. 100 00:09:20,816 --> 00:09:24,091 Exactly, as this Covid disease. 101 00:09:24,091 --> 00:09:29,834 And the medical measures that the STIKO then recommends are supposed to be directed against this disease. 102 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:36,079 And maybe that's not the case at all, because the study situation that we have, especially with Covid, we know 103 00:09:36,079 --> 00:09:39,435 that there is no evidence-based study situation for Covid. 104 00:09:39,435 --> 00:09:44,654 Neither about the disease as such, nor about the evidence of the measures. 105 00:09:44,654 --> 00:09:50,568 All the studies we have tend to be low or even very low. 106 00:09:50,568 --> 00:09:57,561 We have a single moderate study, which is the subject of the STIKO recommendation, which 107 00:09:57,561 --> 00:10:01,966 deals with efficacy. And that is simply not enough. 108 00:10:01,966 --> 00:10:07,207 And normally the STIKO says that these are the so-called Standard Operating Procedures , yes. 109 00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:12,497 These are established, global procedures or global standards that are observed when 110 00:10:12,497 --> 00:10:17,771 classifying diseases and the effectiveness of medicines. 111 00:10:17,771 --> 00:10:21,193 They should actually always be at least moderate. But we don't have any. 112 00:10:21,193 --> 00:10:26,421 And that may be the case with polio, I don't know exactly now, but you would have to look into 113 00:10:26,421 --> 00:10:29,263 the study situation that the STIKO has in general. 114 00:10:29,263 --> 00:10:34,998 And we may not even have any studies that go beyond moderate. 115 00:10:34,998 --> 00:10:42,893 And then - and here comes the trick, namely that if we don't have the medical situation, the STIKO doesn't 116 00:10:42,893 --> 00:10:49,466 just decide on medical-scientific grounds, but then comes a so-called Decide Board . 117 00:10:49,466 --> 00:10:54,802 And this Decide Board then tends to say: How well can we put this on the market? 118 00:10:54,802 --> 00:10:58,623 How acceptable will it be to people? Will there be resistance from doctors? 119 00:10:58,623 --> 00:11:02,115 Will there be resistance from pharmacies? And so on. 120 00:11:02,115 --> 00:11:04,021 How inexpensive are these drugs and so on. 121 00:11:04,021 --> 00:11:10,146 And then suddenly the scientific decision becomes a political decision. Like this. And that's when... 122 00:11:10,146 --> 00:11:12,440 And a commercial decision. 123 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Yes, it's been a commercial decision all along. 124 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,857 It is then a political decision, which is of course often made for commercial reasons. 125 00:11:17,857 --> 00:11:21,341 Then, of course, we have the lobbyists who advise politicians accordingly. 126 00:11:21,341 --> 00:11:24,294 We have the lobbyists who advise the RKI and so on. 127 00:11:24,294 --> 00:11:32,989 And suddenly something becomes a recommendation by STIKO, without us being told that the medical evidence that would actually be 128 00:11:32,989 --> 00:11:41,880 required does not exist at all, but that the decision was simply made on political grounds, despite the lack of medical evidence. 129 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,103 This is the situation we actually have, and every person who has a STIKO recommendation must know 130 00:11:47,103 --> 00:11:49,963 that this is not what the STIKO recommendation says: 131 00:11:49,963 --> 00:11:57,088 We have scientific evidence here that says this disease is well researched and the effectiveness of the drugs is well 132 00:11:57,088 --> 00:12:04,784 researched, and the harmfulness of the drugs, side effects are well researched, but that is possibly not the case at all. 133 00:12:04,784 --> 00:12:08,306 Rather, it is simply a political decision to say that we are going to put it on the market anyway. 134 00:12:08,306 --> 00:12:12,274 And with a recommendation and with a STIKO recommendation, we naturally have the 135 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:14,807 situation that a drug sells better than without. 136 00:12:14,807 --> 00:12:23,534 That is really brutal. The focus is no longer on the well-being of the people, but on completely different interests. 137 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:29,651 Mr. Ludwig, I do not just want to stay on the subject of polio, but zoom out a little further. 138 00:12:29,651 --> 00:12:40,221 For example, the physician Dr Stefan Lanker also focuses on the psyche. 139 00:12:40,221 --> 00:12:48,573 That a person's psyche is also important for their subjective perception, but also for symptoms that the body also develops. 140 00:12:48,573 --> 00:12:57,019 Another study from 1984, which highlights both the psyche and diet, that diet does have an impact - 141 00:12:57,019 --> 00:13:01,471 including what symptoms a body may also develop. 142 00:13:01,471 --> 00:13:08,323 And it also describes, for example, that toxins, environmental toxins, can affect the psyche. 143 00:13:08,323 --> 00:13:16,424 Suddenly, I am depressed or nervous or something else, which in turn often has an effect on the body. 144 00:13:16,424 --> 00:13:28,799 So there are many factors that ultimately affect or co-determine the symptoms that the body develops, let us put it that way. 145 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:36,792 So it is not always so clear, as they say, that it is the virus that causes the disease, as is the 146 00:13:36,792 --> 00:13:41,377 case with Covid-19, but it can be many other things. 147 00:13:41,377 --> 00:13:50,025 Professor Bhakdi says the same thing about the liver disease hepatitis, for example, which is often caused by medication, 148 00:13:50,025 --> 00:13:58,029 perhaps even drug abuse, alcohol consumption, all of these things, and not just a liver virus that is now making 149 00:13:58,029 --> 00:14:02,612 the liver sick. And that is why I am going to list that. 150 00:14:02,612 --> 00:14:07,627 The fact is, we now have the fresh WHO pandemic treaty. 151 00:14:07,627 --> 00:14:12,729 Then just the International Health Regulations - also initiated by the WHO. 152 00:14:12,729 --> 00:14:20,749 In principle, we have practically already been taught this: Dear people, we are entering an age of constant pandemics, 153 00:14:20,749 --> 00:14:24,901 there is no getting around it. It is all connected globally. 154 00:14:24,901 --> 00:14:31,068 And if a case of - I don't know what - occurs in Africa, then we have to start vaccinating here, prophylactically and so on. 155 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:43,218 But if all these connections, which simply make up such physical symptoms, are still so completely multifaceted, still 156 00:14:43,218 --> 00:14:54,072 unexplained, then we as citizens, under the, I'll say ZAAVV, which arose during the time of the corona pandemic 157 00:14:54,072 --> 00:15:00,665 panic, then we have to look at how can we prevent such crimes. 158 00:15:00,665 --> 00:15:07,415 Crimes against humanity, being again subject to restrictions, being forcibly medicated, being perhaps forcibly sent to hospital, 159 00:15:07,415 --> 00:15:10,994 as has happened on a large scale in Italy and other countries. 160 00:15:10,994 --> 00:15:16,156 You've been tested somehow then - you have Covid-19, and now you have to go to hospital. 161 00:15:16,156 --> 00:15:22,939 You have to be isolated and so on. Then be forcibly medicated, forcibly ventilated, people died like flies. 162 00:15:22,939 --> 00:15:26,408 These are all such things, these are brutal crimes. 163 00:15:26,408 --> 00:15:33,111 And if something like this is just around the corner, virtually through the WHO, which is announcing it: 164 00:15:33,111 --> 00:15:38,650 We are now entering an age of pandemics. We need to prepare for it. 165 00:15:38,650 --> 00:15:43,184 How can citizens defend themselves? What can you do? 166 00:15:43,184 --> 00:15:48,134 First of all, as citizens we are free people. 167 00:15:48,134 --> 00:15:52,697 We are free people, we can take care of ourselves first. 168 00:15:52,697 --> 00:16:00,725 And I believe that the WHO and this pandemic narrative that we have now is of course a 169 00:16:00,725 --> 00:16:05,884 marketing tool for the pharmaceutical industry. 170 00:16:05,884 --> 00:16:12,093 And you only have to look at who is essentially financing the WHO and who is investing in the WHO... 171 00:16:12,093 --> 00:16:13,017 Then who is that? 172 00:16:13,017 --> 00:16:17,939 Yes, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, among others, pays a relatively large amount of money. 173 00:16:17,939 --> 00:16:25,040 So the more states withdraw from financing the WHO, the more it will be privately financed. 174 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:35,585 In other words, the private sector, the pharmaceutical industry, the pharmaceutical companies and the upstream organizations they 175 00:16:35,585 --> 00:16:45,691 set up are naturally interested in ensuring that organizations such as the WHO, the STIKO, the European medical authorities, the 176 00:16:45,691 --> 00:16:54,376 American medical authorities and so on always focus their recommendations and their views on a pharmacological 177 00:16:54,376 --> 00:17:03,845 solution - and less on what you just said, on a nutritional solution and possibly also on psychological solutions. 178 00:17:03,845 --> 00:17:06,281 That is precisely the cultural war that is taking place in America. 179 00:17:06,281 --> 00:17:15,286 Incidentally, we also have a lawyer there, Robert Kennedy Junior, who is the US Secretary of Health and Human Services, who founded 180 00:17:15,286 --> 00:17:21,816 the MAHA movement, the Make America Healthy Again movement, which played a major role in Donald 181 00:17:21,816 --> 00:17:25,328 Trump being elected president in the first place. 182 00:17:25,328 --> 00:17:32,936 Because this MAHA movement around Robert Kennedy actually comes from the Democratic spectrum, that is, the Democratic Party, 183 00:17:32,936 --> 00:17:40,673 and in the swing states it has ensured that the corresponding votes have gone to Trump, so that Trump won these swing states. 184 00:17:40,673 --> 00:17:41,946 When Republicans won. 185 00:17:41,946 --> 00:17:43,532 When a Republican won, exactly. 186 00:17:43,532 --> 00:17:51,663 And I know a lot of people from this MAHA movement, this Make America Healthy Again movement. That's exactly what it's about. 187 00:17:51,663 --> 00:17:58,725 They say we only ever look when symptoms are already present, when a disease has broken 188 00:17:58,725 --> 00:18:02,060 out, how can we then treat it with medication? 189 00:18:02,060 --> 00:18:07,100 That's clear, if I were a pharmaceutical representative, that would also be my point of view. 190 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:11,186 My point of view would not be: Do we have healthy people? 191 00:18:11,186 --> 00:18:17,952 But my point of view would be: How could I keep people so sick that we end up making money from them? 192 00:18:17,952 --> 00:18:21,199 Because the pharmaceutical industry does not make money from healthy people. 193 00:18:21,199 --> 00:18:29,283 So it's not about having the best possible healthcare, as the international social pact says, but 194 00:18:29,283 --> 00:18:34,710 about making the best possible profit from healthcare. 195 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:39,890 And people will probably say again that Ludwig, who says this in the interview, is a conspiracy theorist... 196 00:18:39,890 --> 00:18:45,763 But that's how our world works. We live in a capitalist world, and in this capitalist world everything is profit-oriented. 197 00:18:45,763 --> 00:18:46,210 Yes. 198 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:50,668 That is, if you belong to the pharmaceutical industry, you would consider: 199 00:18:50,668 --> 00:18:57,796 How can we manage to sell our products to men and women in such a way that we make a profit from them? 200 00:18:57,796 --> 00:19:04,255 When it came to banning smoking, the tobacco industry immediately set up institutes to find out 201 00:19:04,255 --> 00:19:08,491 that tobacco smoke is not so dangerous after all. 202 00:19:08,491 --> 00:19:13,116 And of course it also founded institutes that researched lung cancer and so on. 203 00:19:13,116 --> 00:19:18,435 That is absolutely clear. First of all, this is a completely normal, logical measure taken by the industry. 204 00:19:18,435 --> 00:19:27,208 And that means that the pharmaceutical industry has an interest in dominating the WHO, and the pharmaceutical industry does not 205 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:35,497 have an interest in preventing pandemics, but has an interest in ensuring that pandemics occur so that the corresponding 206 00:19:35,497 --> 00:19:43,780 drugs, which have already been patented and produced - or prepared for production - can be brought on to the market. 207 00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:46,945 We experienced this with swine flu, we have now experienced it with corona. 208 00:19:46,945 --> 00:19:48,835 And, as I said, you can see this counter-movement. 209 00:19:48,835 --> 00:19:50,460 They wanted to know what can be done about it. 210 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:54,671 So in America there is now this counter-movement, Make-America-Healthy-Again. 211 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:56,835 They have exactly two starting points. 212 00:19:56,835 --> 00:20:02,772 Point one is that the Kennedy actually says that although we in America are the richest industrialized nation in the 213 00:20:02,772 --> 00:20:06,153 world, we have the lowest life expectancy compared to others. 214 00:20:06,153 --> 00:20:08,171 Why is that? It can't really be. 215 00:20:08,171 --> 00:20:11,360 We are a prosperous country and have a low life expectancy. 216 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:14,343 And then he looks and says: What is the nutrition program like in the USA? 217 00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:20,318 And then, of course, you see a lot of fast food, a lot of unhealthy food, a lot of convenience food, a lot of artificial 218 00:20:20,318 --> 00:20:23,262 food that is now being developed and so on. And he says... 219 00:20:23,262 --> 00:20:24,326 Environmental toxins... 220 00:20:24,326 --> 00:20:28,209 Environmental toxins, lots of things, lots of drugs, that's where it starts. At the 221 00:20:28,209 --> 00:20:30,750 moment this opiate crisis in the USA and so on. 222 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:34,950 So in the USA, an incredible amount of medication... - the drinking water is not clean 223 00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:37,633 because there are also drug residues and so on. 224 00:20:37,633 --> 00:20:40,390 In other words, he approaches it from precisely this point and says: 225 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:46,094 "We have to improve nutrition, we have to make sure that people eat healthier things. 226 00:20:46,094 --> 00:20:52,555 And we must ensure that environmental toxins are reduced." That is precisely the approach. 227 00:20:52,555 --> 00:20:58,100 And then we have to see if what the pharmaceutical industry is saying is true - that's the next step... 228 00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:01,412 He completely replaced this standing vaccination commission and said: 229 00:21:01,412 --> 00:21:06,797 "Your task now is to actually check whether all the recommendations that exist are necessary or not. 230 00:21:06,797 --> 00:21:10,140 And now actually take a look at the studies for evidence." 231 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:14,193 There was a great outcry worldwide, especially here in Germany of course, because it is clear... 232 00:21:14,193 --> 00:21:20,991 Well, I can tell you that we have checked this for corona, and we have no evidence from studies with corona! 233 00:21:20,991 --> 00:21:25,398 Nevertheless, we have a recommendation. Yes, we have a recommendation for vaccination without 234 00:21:25,398 --> 00:21:27,078 evidence from studies. And most certainly the... 235 00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:30,226 And with all the serious side effects and the many deaths. 236 00:21:30,226 --> 00:21:32,720 Exactly! And it will certainly be the same with the other vaccinations. 237 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,445 And now Robert Kennedy is having it checked. And suddenly there's a huge outcry. 238 00:21:36,445 --> 00:21:39,375 Why? Who is making this outcry and who is organizing this outcry? 239 00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:44,181 Of course, the media also make an incredible living from this financing from the pharmaceutical industry, from 240 00:21:44,181 --> 00:21:46,633 the advertising, from the money that is poured into it. 241 00:21:46,633 --> 00:21:51,160 Bill Gates, here we are again with Bill Gates, has paid several million to "Der Spiegel", for example. 242 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,688 This means that "Der Spiegel" and the newspapers, which have less and less money, also live 243 00:21:55,688 --> 00:21:58,580 strongly from the support of the pharmaceutical industry. 244 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:02,420 So, of course, they also broadcast the corresponding news. And that is the point. 245 00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:10,406 So first of all, pay attention to our existing political system: Who are actually those who oppose it? 246 00:22:10,406 --> 00:22:15,847 And there is a relatively strong, large counter-movement coming from America, and they have founded 247 00:22:15,847 --> 00:22:18,945 this MAHA, this Make America Healthy Again movement. 248 00:22:18,945 --> 00:22:21,053 There's nothing to be said against doing the same in Germany. 249 00:22:21,053 --> 00:22:27,500 And we at ZAAVV are also quite prepared to support precisely these points as an organization. 250 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,600 We already work closely with the MAHA movement. 251 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,047 We know the people, we have already exchanged ideas, we have already met. 252 00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:41,231 We also need to make sure that we say: We demand evidence-based studies, we demand that medication in 253 00:22:41,231 --> 00:22:50,027 particular is only administered if we actually have studies that have at least a high level of evidence. 254 00:22:50,027 --> 00:22:53,695 So moderate is still possible, but high is better. 255 00:22:53,695 --> 00:22:57,672 And then something will change - many drugs will no longer be approved. 256 00:22:57,672 --> 00:22:59,656 And then, of course, people have to defend themselves. 257 00:22:59,656 --> 00:23:05,031 So point one, what you said, everyone has to pay attention to how they eat. 258 00:23:05,031 --> 00:23:09,202 In other words, you have to look at how you can possibly make sure that you eat more 259 00:23:09,202 --> 00:23:11,617 regionally, that you support your regional farmers. 260 00:23:11,617 --> 00:23:18,171 They have just taken to the streets against this central policy, in favour of eating regional food, 261 00:23:18,171 --> 00:23:22,226 eating healthy food, paying attention to a mixed diet. 262 00:23:22,226 --> 00:23:28,760 That's primarily an individual matter. And then, when these state measures come, you have to resist. 263 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,765 We have to take to the streets again. Then you have to say: No, I won't go along with that. 264 00:23:32,765 --> 00:23:35,289 And then counter it accordingly. 265 00:23:35,289 --> 00:23:43,617 Hmm. As a human being, you also said: I have my individual human rights, they are non-negotiable and I insist on them! 266 00:23:43,617 --> 00:23:53,520 And I don't have to follow this forced medication or whatever it may be, I don't have to follow it at all. 267 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,264 Yes, as we can see, the consequence happens automatically. 268 00:23:56,264 --> 00:24:04,549 So we see, for example, that there are unbelievably big problems in the area of junior staff, in the area of junior medical 269 00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:08,859 staff, due to this facility-based vaccination requirement. 270 00:24:08,859 --> 00:24:11,166 Yes, that is of course also a reaction to it. 271 00:24:11,166 --> 00:24:14,440 So maybe nobody says anything and people don't take to the streets. 272 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,554 But a lot of young people are no longer choosing this medical profession because there is always this sword of Damocles 273 00:24:19,554 --> 00:24:23,765 hovering over this medical profession, saying that now it's the next pandemic, now you have to get 274 00:24:23,765 --> 00:24:27,961 vaccinated again with a substance like this and take a substance and medication like this. 275 00:24:27,961 --> 00:24:30,461 And of course they don't want that either. They are also body-conscious. 276 00:24:30,461 --> 00:24:31,751 Yes, sure. 277 00:24:31,751 --> 00:24:35,900 And then you just have to say "No!" and say: "Stop, I won't do that!" 278 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:39,897 And when in doubt, you have to say: "Then I'll leave this job." 279 00:24:39,897 --> 00:24:41,960 Of course, this is also an individual decision. 280 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,391 But I know that many people did that during the coronavirus pandemic too. 281 00:24:45,391 --> 00:24:49,756 And especially those who have consciously left the profession, they won't go back. They don't want to. 282 00:24:49,756 --> 00:24:57,743 And that means that we have - this is a huge problem in Germany, and there is no discussion about it - an incredible 283 00:24:57,743 --> 00:25:01,839 gap in the medical professions that are not being filled. 284 00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:03,830 Yes, a huge shortage of staff. 285 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:05,634 Exactly. 286 00:25:05,634 --> 00:25:11,264 Okay, now there is also this Vetopedia. 287 00:25:11,264 --> 00:25:21,272 Have you witnessed vaccine damage? Register it on Vetopedia, the free encyclopedia of dissenting voices: www.vetopedia.org 288 00:25:21,272 --> 00:25:29,185 This platform, this database, where you can enter your vaccination injuries during the corona 289 00:25:29,185 --> 00:25:33,701 period, for example - or other vaccination injuries. 290 00:25:33,701 --> 00:25:37,730 But especially during the corona period, a large number of vaccine injuries occurred, 291 00:25:37,730 --> 00:25:40,208 including fatal ones - many of them can then be... 292 00:25:40,208 --> 00:25:46,459 Relatives can also enter this vaccination damage there. 293 00:25:46,459 --> 00:25:55,190 Isn't that also an important tool, I would say, from a legal point of view, from a forensic point 294 00:25:55,190 --> 00:26:00,476 of view, in order to have leverage there as well: 295 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:08,060 Coercive measures were not good back then, and we never want to go back to having something simply imposed on us 296 00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:12,842 in future pandemics - with such horrendous consequences. 297 00:26:12,842 --> 00:26:16,678 Isn't this an important tool for lawyers too, I say? 298 00:26:16,678 --> 00:26:21,701 Yes, that is also an experience we have from this pandemic period. 299 00:26:21,701 --> 00:26:24,225 This is actually a time of pandemic measures. 300 00:26:24,225 --> 00:26:31,147 And what we are now also seeing - especially through people like Tom Lausen - in the committees of inquiry: 301 00:26:31,147 --> 00:26:35,022 The authorities actually responsible did not do their job. 302 00:26:35,022 --> 00:26:38,990 The Paul Ehrlich Institute did not collect the data as it should have. 303 00:26:38,990 --> 00:26:41,404 No warning messages were sent out. 304 00:26:41,404 --> 00:26:45,932 The health insurance companies... - actually everyone, I mean, the signs were red everywhere, the 305 00:26:45,932 --> 00:26:48,225 alarm bells should have been ringing everywhere. 306 00:26:48,225 --> 00:26:54,819 I mean, at the Paul Ehrlich Institute we learned in the committee of inquiry in Brandenburg that the Paul Ehrlich Institute 307 00:26:54,819 --> 00:27:01,148 didn't even have enough server capacity available to accommodate all the reports that came in about side effects. 308 00:27:01,148 --> 00:27:01,624 Crass. 309 00:27:01,624 --> 00:27:07,162 This means that the assertion that we do not have that many side effects results from the fact that the side effects that have been 310 00:27:07,162 --> 00:27:10,501 reported have not been recorded and have not been documented. 311 00:27:10,501 --> 00:27:15,219 What I don't see, I don't have. And Tom Lausen has done a very good job of that. 312 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:24,158 And that means that we can only get to the actual numbers that have happened as a result of this vaccination through modeling. 313 00:27:24,158 --> 00:27:30,101 And then of course it's good when there are private initiatives that do exactly these things, so that it at 314 00:27:30,101 --> 00:27:33,440 least becomes obvious that there are many, many more cases. 315 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,177 So if a public authority, which is more or less equipped with infinite resources, is not in a position to record this, 316 00:27:39,177 --> 00:27:42,148 and then a private initiative does it, and you suddenly see: 317 00:27:42,148 --> 00:27:46,150 Oh my God, how many reports do we actually have here and what actually happened? 318 00:27:46,150 --> 00:27:48,767 Then you at least have an initial look at it. 319 00:27:48,767 --> 00:27:54,734 And then at some point the leading media, the mainstream media, will no longer be able 320 00:27:54,734 --> 00:27:57,931 to work against it or hide what has happened. 321 00:27:57,931 --> 00:28:02,837 That is also very important experience that we have gained during this time. 322 00:28:02,837 --> 00:28:06,376 We have to bring all these things out of the darkness and into the light. 323 00:28:06,376 --> 00:28:08,580 So your question was, what can people do? 324 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:12,940 For example, you can set up such initiatives. You can register there yourself. 325 00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:19,200 You can also provide your information to the ZAAVV to show this: Just because you don't record it as 326 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,634 authorities that are responsible, we are doing it. 327 00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:27,991 That you also urge your doctor to say: This is a vaccine injury and I'm telling you to report it to 328 00:28:27,991 --> 00:28:30,703 the health insurance company as a vaccine injury! 329 00:28:30,703 --> 00:28:33,572 Because many doctors don't do that. Patients simply have to insist on it. 330 00:28:33,572 --> 00:28:39,095 The doctor is obliged to do so. If it could be vaccine damage, he must report it. 331 00:28:39,095 --> 00:28:44,996 Things like that, insist on having them reported, report them to your health insurance company or, if in doubt, go to a 332 00:28:44,996 --> 00:28:49,540 portal like this and report it on the portal so that we can see that something has actually happened here. 333 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:52,392 And you can see that the political wind is changing. 334 00:28:52,392 --> 00:29:00,525 Due to the strength of the AfD, for example, or the BSW - in eastern Germany we now have more than this 25 percent everywhere, 335 00:29:00,525 --> 00:29:06,528 so that committees of inquiry or enquete commissions can be set up everywhere, which at least 336 00:29:06,528 --> 00:29:10,220 serve to ensure that these things are made public. 337 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:12,728 And you just have to report and keep on exerting pressure. 338 00:29:12,728 --> 00:29:23,813 Yes, and that's just the way I feel, that right now is a good time, in this time after Corona, to simply push for such 339 00:29:23,813 --> 00:29:35,120 a reappraisal or a review of things, to work towards it, especially to prevent, to stop further crimes, right? 340 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,853 Yes, exactly. It's essentially about prevention. We have to learn what happened. 341 00:29:39,853 --> 00:29:46,384 I can only recommend that you take a look at... - this is online, the videos of the Enquete Commission in Brandenburg. 342 00:29:46,384 --> 00:29:52,729 In Brandenburg, the state parliament has a commission of inquiry to reappraise the coronavirus era. 343 00:29:52,729 --> 00:29:58,173 An enquete commission - unlike a committee of inquiry - always means that an enquete commission only looks to the future. 344 00:29:58,173 --> 00:30:00,173 In other words, you just look at this: What can we do better? 345 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:05,996 But the Enquete Commission in Brandenburg in particular is designed in such a way, due to the political 346 00:30:05,996 --> 00:30:12,580 circumstances there, that there are many, many critical experts and many, many critical experts who have their say. 347 00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:13,406 Interesting. 348 00:30:13,406 --> 00:30:19,087 For example, there is Gerd Antes, there was Stefan Homburg, there is Tom Lausen. So there are many, many of them. 349 00:30:19,087 --> 00:30:28,011 For example, the AfD parliamentary group's scientific advisor is Stephan Kohn, who worked here in the Federal Ministry of the 350 00:30:28,011 --> 00:30:32,471 Interior, then leaked this shock paper and was dismissed for it. 351 00:30:32,471 --> 00:30:34,916 He is now involved in the reappraisal in Brandenburg, so to speak. 352 00:30:34,916 --> 00:30:41,909 This gives us a great deal of information about what has happened and then points us into the future. 353 00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:49,642 And that's exactly where the starting points are, so that people - we are involved in educating them - that we first of all know: 354 00:30:49,642 --> 00:30:53,760 What happened and how did it happen and what is the reality? 355 00:30:53,760 --> 00:31:01,292 And Wolfgang Wodarg, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, said in one of his very first videos, perhaps it was even his first video, at the 356 00:31:01,292 --> 00:31:07,600 beginning of this corona period - that's how I became aware that something was going wrong - that if we 357 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,362 really have a pandemic, then we'll see dead people on the street. Then everyone will know... 358 00:31:13,362 --> 00:31:14,221 ...it's a pandemic. 359 00:31:14,221 --> 00:31:15,700 It's a pandemic, people are dying. 360 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:16,955 And not a paper pandemic. 361 00:31:16,955 --> 00:31:25,215 Exactly. And now we see that when we go out on the street, we hardly find anyone who can tell us: 362 00:31:25,215 --> 00:31:30,024 Oh, I have an acquaintance who died of corona. That hardly ever happens. 363 00:31:30,024 --> 00:31:36,084 So nobody, because we also see that the median age of those who died of corona or died of and with 364 00:31:36,084 --> 00:31:40,260 corona is 84 - i.e. above the life expectancy we have. 365 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:42,754 But everyone knows someone who has vaccine damage. 366 00:31:42,754 --> 00:31:47,398 Everyone knows someone who has suffered as a result of vaccination, who has had damage as a result 367 00:31:47,398 --> 00:31:51,527 of vaccination - strokes, heart attacks, heart disease, myocarditis, deaths and so on. 368 00:31:51,527 --> 00:31:57,550 In other words, the actual pandemic that we have was the side effects of the vaccination. 369 00:31:57,550 --> 00:32:02,740 Well, I also experience this with people who were less lateral thinkers or critical. 370 00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:10,925 But when I talk to people today - of course they often wouldn't admit it in public, but when you talk to them, they all say it: 371 00:32:10,925 --> 00:32:16,415 I know someone or I've experienced it myself, I'm feeling bad myself, since I've had this vaccination I'm constantly ill, 372 00:32:16,415 --> 00:32:19,144 I constantly have problems and so on. And that's the point. 373 00:32:19,144 --> 00:32:21,824 And that's where people have to... - I think that's the learning we have. 374 00:32:21,824 --> 00:32:26,381 And if it becomes clearer to them through such portals, which are then also used for the future, that there are 375 00:32:26,381 --> 00:32:30,575 side effects here, then people will become more critical and are more likely to say no and speak out: 376 00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:34,288 I won't do that again, I won't do that to myself and my body again! 377 00:32:34,288 --> 00:32:42,762 Yes, I understand. To summarize it: All in all, it's basically about raising awareness. 378 00:32:42,762 --> 00:32:48,380 It's not about our health, it's about a business model of the pharmaceutical industry. 379 00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:51,942 There is a pandemic industry behind it in principle. 380 00:32:51,942 --> 00:32:56,611 The companies are not interested in us being healthy, they only live off the sick, in 381 00:32:56,611 --> 00:32:59,913 principle, if I have understood it correctly. 382 00:32:59,913 --> 00:33:02,137 Yes, of course, so we know that too. 383 00:33:02,137 --> 00:33:10,200 So even with normal doctors, the time that the doctor takes for the patient is relatively short. 384 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,004 I think it actually averages a few seconds. 385 00:33:14,004 --> 00:33:19,420 Doctors are then often provided with computer programs by the pharmaceutical industry, which they use. 386 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:25,117 The medicine that pops up is always the one from the manufacturer that financed or co-financed this 387 00:33:25,117 --> 00:33:29,129 computer program or the equipment in the doctor's surgery. 388 00:33:29,129 --> 00:33:31,129 It's all about money, of course it's about money. 389 00:33:31,129 --> 00:33:36,200 Everything that happens in our medical field is first and foremost about money. 390 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Of course, I would say that healthcare is a side effect. 391 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,403 And I am not someone who criticizes or opposes conventional medicine. 392 00:33:44,403 --> 00:33:51,174 We need conventional medicine, and in the surgical field in particular we naturally also have modern, good 393 00:33:51,174 --> 00:33:55,253 medicine that is scientifically sound and does good work. 394 00:33:55,253 --> 00:34:02,706 But many areas or many things, for example in oncology, all these measures that are being taken against cancer, are of 395 00:34:02,706 --> 00:34:09,408 course measures that are essentially borne by the hospitals, which are responsible for the medical field. 396 00:34:09,408 --> 00:34:11,715 And there is simply an incredible amount of money involved. 397 00:34:11,715 --> 00:34:17,770 And for me it's completely logical to say: Why am I only thinking about which drug I'm putting 398 00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:21,018 into my body and not thinking about how I'm eating? 399 00:34:21,018 --> 00:34:26,582 Because the oral intake of nutrients is one of the most important things of all. 400 00:34:26,582 --> 00:34:32,887 For example, there is always this vitamin D discussion, which is now becoming more and more mainstream. 401 00:34:32,887 --> 00:34:39,687 This means that it is becoming clearer that vitamin D or vitamin D supplementation is essential to prevent disease. 402 00:34:39,687 --> 00:34:47,900 But vitamin D is of course cheap to obtain and is therefore not a business model for the pharmaceutical industry. 403 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:53,114 And that's why many of the insights we have are naturally withheld. 404 00:34:53,114 --> 00:34:59,739 But of course, it's a global trillion-dollar industry, the medical industry. 405 00:34:59,739 --> 00:35:02,817 And of course you recommend masks if you want to sell masks. 406 00:35:02,817 --> 00:35:10,153 And of course you then support studies that say that an FFP2 mask, which is actually a dust mask, protects against a virus. 407 00:35:10,153 --> 00:35:17,289 And of course you don't take the inexpensive drugs that are on the market if you can get an expensive 408 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:21,817 development financed by the state - and then without liability. 409 00:35:21,817 --> 00:35:24,081 Ultimately, we are the state, we pay for it with our tax money. 410 00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:25,254 Exactly. 411 00:35:25,254 --> 00:35:29,043 But as you basically said at the beginning, everyone is responsible for themselves. 412 00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:32,832 And as a lawyer, I can't really do much about that, as you mentioned. 413 00:35:32,832 --> 00:35:38,611 I can only say that the human rights situation actually prohibits this approach, this 414 00:35:38,611 --> 00:35:41,387 forced medication, forced therapy and so on. 415 00:35:41,387 --> 00:35:48,059 But if the courts simply wave it through, as we have experienced here, then it is of course difficult. 416 00:35:48,059 --> 00:35:52,981 And then you are left to your own devices. And when in doubt, you have to clearly say no and say, I won't go along with this. 417 00:35:52,981 --> 00:36:00,090 Just like it says on your T-shirt: Freedom begins with No. For me, it means human rights first. 418 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:09,272 And the other thing is to prevent crime - I think also through education, by educating 419 00:36:09,272 --> 00:36:15,450 yourself, informing yourself and also informing others. 420 00:36:15,450 --> 00:36:20,098 Great. Thank you for this interview. It was very enlightening. 421 00:36:20,098 --> 00:36:24,434 In other words, things are never as bad as they seem. 422 00:36:24,434 --> 00:36:38,801 Corona has warned us, shaken us up. And we don't need to subject ourselves to all these pandemic fireworks. 423 00:36:38,801 --> 00:36:41,520 Exactly. Thank you for letting me come!