WEBVTT 00:00.234 --> 00:04.648 A yau, ina maraba da lauya Ralf Ludwig zuwa ɗakin studio ɗinmu. 00:04.648 --> 00:11.757 Na gode ƙwarai da gaske da ɗaukar lokaci don amsa tambayoyinmu masu kayatarwa, tambayoyin da ke ƙonewa! 00:11.757 --> 00:15.804 Kai ne ɗaya daga cikin masu kafa abin da ake kira ZAAVV. 00:15.804 --> 00:24.494 ZAAVV – bari in karanta shi: gajeriyar kalmar ZAAVV tana nufin Cibiyar Bincike, Bayyanawa, 00:24.494 --> 00:30.062 Shari'a da Rigakafin Laifukan Cin Zarafin Dan Adam. 00:30.062 --> 00:37.413 ZAAVV ta bayyana a wani lokaci da zan iya kwatanta shi da abin da nake kira "kwanan baya", wanda na shaida da 00:37.413 --> 00:43.324 kaina a matsayin matuƙar danniya, barazana, takura; a wasu kalmomi, ainihin zalunci. 00:43.324 --> 00:51.906 Kuma haka ne ZAAVV ta samo asali, da nufin tabbatar da cewa hakan ba zai sake faruwa ba kuma mu fahimci hakan. 00:51.906 --> 00:55.367 Abin da ya faru a can – kuma bai kamata ya sake faruwa ba! 00:55.367 --> 01:07.011 Yanzu, a wannan lokaci – lokacin coronavirus, lokacin annoba – an kakaba matakan tilastawa da dama, waɗanda, idan aka duba 01:07.011 --> 01:18.007 baya, aka gano ba su da buƙatar likitanci, kamar yadda ka'idojin Robert Koch Institute da aka bayyana suka nuna. 01:18.007 --> 01:28.117 Wannan kawai yana nufin an kakaba mana matakai ne saboda dalilai na siyasa kawai, ba tare da wata hujjar likitanci ta gaske ba. 01:28.117 --> 01:34.989 Kuma hakan ya kai ni ga dalilin da ya sa ni, mu a Kla.TV, muke son yin magana da kai musamman. Kuma 01:34.989 --> 01:38.265 wannan gaba ɗaya daga mahangar aikace-aikace ne. 01:38.265 --> 01:44.617 Kwamitin Dindindin kan Rigakafi yana ba da shawarar yin rigakafin polio sosai. 01:44.617 --> 01:52.111 Haka kuma ana maimaita tattaunawa da muryoyi da ke cewa ya kamata a gabatar da tilastaccen rigakafin polio. 01:52.111 --> 01:57.407 An soke shi a wancan lokacin, amma lokaci ya yi da za a sake gabatar da shi. 01:57.407 --> 02:03.093 Kuma a matsayina na ɗan ƙasa, a halitta ina da tambayoyi. Shin ina so in yi wannan, shin dole ne in yi 02:03.093 --> 02:06.837 wannan, shin ya kamata in yi wannan? Kuma ina neman bayanai. 02:06.837 --> 02:13.281 Kuma kwanan nan na karanta rahoto mai ban sha'awa daga Torsten Engelbrecht da Hans Tolzin. 02:13.281 --> 02:25.015 Suka rubuta a rahotonsu cewa waɗannan alamun cutar polio, wato nakasa da sauransu, na iya faruwa ne sakamakon 02:25.015 --> 02:34.837 guba – DDT, arsenic, gubar da sauransu – waɗanda za su iya haifar da irin waɗannan alamun. 02:34.837 --> 02:39.621 Don haka kuma kuna da wani da ake zargin yana da cutar shan inna. 02:39.621 --> 02:47.582 Kuma ko ga Farfesa Dr. Bhakdi, wannan ba ya bayyana gaba ɗaya. 02:47.582 --> 02:52.254 Kwayar cuta: Me ke tallafawa kwayar cutar? Me kuma akwai? Da sauransu. 02:52.254 --> 02:56.589 Wani abu ne da ke cike da tambayoyi da yawa. 02:56.589 --> 02:59.237 Saboda haka tambayata gare ka a matsayin ƙwararren masanin doka: 02:59.237 --> 03:07.256 Idan, a matsayin ɗan ƙasa, na karɓi rigakafin polio, misali, kuma ba a fayyace batun ba, shin zai 03:07.256 --> 03:13.841 yi kyau a sa ran ɗan ƙasa ya bi irin wannan tsari? 03:13.841 --> 03:19.629 To, amsar doka ta al'ada: ya danganta. 03:19.629 --> 03:27.152 Abin takaici, mun ga a lokacin annobar coronavirus cewa kotuna ba su kare mutane ba kuma cewa kotuna... 03:27.152 --> 03:34.075 A yanzu, zan ce koyaushe cewa wannan shawara ce ta mutum ɗaya, kuma bai kamata a yi wa mutane 03:34.075 --> 03:38.347 wasu matakan likita ba ba tare da yardarsu ba. 03:38.347 --> 03:43.609 Wannan ne a zahiri abin da muka koya kuma muka ɗauka daga zamanin Nazi. 03:43.609 --> 03:49.043 An gudanar da gwaje-gwaje a kan mutane, an yi wa mutane magani ba tare da izninsu ba. 03:49.043 --> 03:55.385 Kuma shi ne dalilin da ya sa ɗaya daga cikin darussan da aka koya daga zamanin Nazi shi ne: kada a sake, ba zai faru ba! 03:55.385 --> 03:57.238 To, ka'idojin 40s ko duk yadda ake kiransu, ko? 03:57.238 --> 04:04.012 Daidai ne, amma a asali har yanzu yana game da Jawabin Duniya na Haƙƙin Dan Adam da ƙa'idodi ko 04:04.012 --> 04:07.754 jerin haƙƙoƙin asali da aka samo daga gare shi. 04:07.754 --> 04:13.668 Akwai yarjejeniyar ilimin ɗabi'un halittu, wadda, a gefe guda, Jamus ba ta amince da ita ba. 04:13.668 --> 04:19.660 Amma Yarjejeniyar Bioethics ta haɗa da wannan, haka nan kuma Takardar Hakkin Asali ta Turai. 04:19.660 --> 04:30.214 Don haka ake maimaita shi sau da yawa: babu tilasta magani, babu maganin likita da ya saba wa ra'ayin mutum! 04:30.214 --> 04:37.254 Kuma an takaita hakan sosai a karon farko yanzu a lokacin annobar coronavirus. 04:37.254 --> 04:41.347 Sai 'yan siyasa suka fi kusan gane cewa za mu iya yin wannan. 04:41.347 --> 04:46.191 Kuma shari'a, wadda a zahiri ya kamata ta kasance tana ba da matakan gyara, ba ta yi wannan gyara ba. 04:46.191 --> 04:48.386 Wannan shi ne abin da muka fuskanta har zuwa yanzu. 04:48.386 --> 04:55.521 Kuma wannan shi ne ainihin haɗarin da, kamar yadda ka faɗa, har yanzu yake nan tun daga wancan lokacin mai ɗaci, kuma ɗaya 04:55.521 --> 05:02.252 daga cikin dalilan da yasa ZAAVV ke wanzuwa, domin mu iya tsoma baki a wannan takamaiman wuri mu daga yatsu mu ce: 05:02.252 --> 05:06.119 Jira ka ɗan, a gaskiya muna da ƙa'idar asali. 05:06.119 --> 05:14.335 Kuma tun lokacin da aka kafa wannan ƙa'idar ɗabi'un kimiyyar halitta – wadda a zahiri ake tattaunawa a kanta tun daga 05:14.335 --> 05:23.676 shekarun 1990 – an karkata wajen fayyacewa da ƙarfafa cewa ba a halatta a ba kowa magani na jiyya ba tare da yardarsa ba. 05:23.676 --> 05:33.353 Amma a fili wannan ra'ayi na hakkin ɗan adam ya saba wa muradun masana'antar magunguna, kuma kusan ya saba wa wata babbar 05:33.353 --> 05:38.478 masana'antar duniya wadda ke samun kuɗi mai yawa daga gare shi. 05:38.478 --> 05:40.847 Eh, haka muka fahimta a lokacin annobar coronavirus. 05:40.847 --> 05:43.777 Hakan ya riga ya kasance kafin barkewar cutar coronavirus. 05:43.777 --> 05:45.686 Har yanzu haka yake, ko da bayan annobar coronavirus. 05:45.686 --> 05:52.379 Don haka, yana game da kuɗi mai yawa, yana game da iko mai yawa, tasiri, fannonin sha'awa da sauransu. 05:52.379 --> 05:54.777 Kuma ka ambaci STIKO . 05:54.777 --> 06:00.980 STIKO, tabbas, ita ma ainihi wata na'ura ce ta aiwatar da waɗannan ra'ayoyi. Ba za a manta da hakan ba. 06:00.980 --> 06:05.135 Don haka, STIKO – idan ka kalli yadda STIKO ke aiki a zahiri... 06:05.135 --> 06:11.846 Don haka STIKO kwamitine, ina tsammanin yana da mambobi 18. 06:11.846 --> 06:16.596 Kuma a cikin STIKO, wannan Kwamitin Tsaye kan Rigakafi, wanda ke kafa abin da ake kira ƙananan kwamitoci. 06:16.596 --> 06:21.283 Don haka hakan na nufin akwai kwamitin coronavirus – ko ma dai, ƙungiyoyin aiki. 06:21.283 --> 06:26.980 Akwai ƙungiyar aiki don nau'ikan alamun cuta daban-daban da matakan da suke duba don 06:26.980 --> 06:31.002 tantance ko ya kamata mu ba da shawarar yin rigakafi. 06:31.002 --> 06:37.416 Sannan akwai ƙa'idoji masu bayyane. Don haka, a ƙa'ida, idan ka duba da kyau, komai doka ta tsara shi da kyau. 06:37.416 --> 06:40.860 Saboda STIKO ana sa ran za ta bayar da shawarwari a lokacin. 06:40.860 --> 06:49.369 Suna karɓar kimantawa na binciken da ke akwai game da waɗannan takamaiman hotunan asibiti. 06:49.369 --> 06:55.080 Sannan ana rarraba waɗannan nazarin bisa ga ma'aunin hujja . 06:55.080 --> 06:58.889 Don haka, a takaice, mun san cewa wannan wani bincike ne da mutane da yawa suka halarta kuma wanda aka 06:58.889 --> 07:00.682 gudanar a matsayin bincike mai makantar sau biyu . 07:00.682 --> 07:09.221 Don haka, ana rarraba shaida daga irin wannan bincike bisa ka'idojin kimiyya, sannan mambobin STIKO, ko mafi dacewa waɗanda 07:09.221 --> 07:16.788 ke cikin kwamitin da ke ba STIKO shawara, sukan sami kusan cikakken bayani na kimiyya game da yanayin asibiti 07:16.788 --> 07:20.682 da ake magana a kai da kuma halin da ake ciki a yanzu. 07:20.682 --> 07:26.861 To menene ainihin abin da muka sani game da wannan cuta, menene abin da muka sani game da alamominta, menene abin da muka sani 07:26.861 --> 07:32.892 game da yadda take ci gaba, menene abin da muka sani game da tsaninta, menene abin da muka sani game da magunguna, a wannan 07:32.892 --> 07:36.913 yanayin alluran rigakafi, da ke kare mutum daga wannan cuta, yaya waɗannan alluran 07:36.913 --> 07:39.518 rigakafi suke aiki, menene illolinsu, da sauransu. 07:39.518 --> 07:44.900 Kuma bisa ga wannan hujja, STIKO ya kamata ta yi shawarwari ko kuma kada ta yi. 07:44.900 --> 07:45.674 Eh. 07:45.674 --> 07:53.537 Matsalar dai ita ce cewa sau da yawa babu wani bincike da ke tabbatar da ɗaya ko ɗayan daga mahangar kimiyya. 07:53.537 --> 07:56.531 Wannan ita ce babbar matsala. Kuma yanzu ga dabara... 07:56.531 --> 07:58.109 Tambaya ce kawai: 07:58.109 --> 08:04.543 Shin hakan na nufin cewa, a wasu yanayi, abubuwa kamar guba ba a yi la'akari da su 08:04.543 --> 08:09.071 kwata-kwata ba a cikin wannan tsarin kimantawa? 08:09.071 --> 08:15.751 Da farko – zan koma kan wannan nan ba da jimawa ba – da farko, tambayar ita ce, menene 08:15.751 --> 08:18.998 ainihin abin da waɗannan binciken ke faɗa? 08:18.998 --> 08:21.873 Amma, wane irin ƙarfi hujjojin da waɗannan binciken suka gabatar? 08:21.873 --> 08:28.404 Eh, to da farko, tambayar ita ce: shin hujjojin suna da matuƙar ƙarfi, ƙarfi, matsakaici, rauni ko matuƙar rauni? 08:28.404 --> 08:32.388 A mafi yawan lokuta, ba mu da wani bincike da ya wuce hujja matsakaici. 08:32.388 --> 08:39.459 Don haka, misali, zai yiwu bincike su ce: waɗannan alamun da muka danganta da wannan cuta, 08:39.459 --> 08:43.000 watakila wasu dalilai daban ne suka jawo su. 08:43.000 --> 08:48.037 Don haka, na yi imani, shi ne abin da kake nuni a cikin wannan takardar da kake magana a kai... 08:48.037 --> 08:55.271 Don haka akwai yiwuwar gaba ɗaya cewa muna kiran wani abu da polio, alhali ba polio bane kwata-kwata. 08:55.271 --> 09:03.206 Ko, idan muka koma kan annobar coronavirus, muna kiran wani abu Covid – Covid ita ce cutar, wato cutar coronavirus – muna kiran 09:03.206 --> 09:11.016 wani abu Covid wanda a zahiri ba Covid ba ne, sai dai kawai yana da alamomi kamar ciwon makogwaro, tari, ciwon kai, gajiya ko 09:11.016 --> 09:18.841 wani abu da ke da dalilai daban-daban kwata-kwata, amma duk da haka muke ci gaba da kiran sa Covid. Ba mu san hakan ba. 09:18.841 --> 09:20.816 Kamar cuta mai yaduwa. 09:20.816 --> 09:24.091 Daidai, lokacin wannan rashin lafiya, Covid. 09:24.091 --> 09:29.834 Kuma matakan kiwon lafiya da STIKO ta ba da shawara ana nufin yaki da wannan cuta. 09:29.834 --> 09:36.231 Amma hakan na iya kasancewa ba haka ba, domin binciken da muke da shi, musamman kan Covid, mun san 09:36.231 --> 09:39.435 cewa babu wani bincike mai tabbatacce kan Covid. 09:39.435 --> 09:44.654 Ba game da cutar kanta ba, kuma ba game da hujjojin matakan ba. 09:44.654 --> 09:50.568 Yafi kama da cewa dukkan binciken da muke da su suna da ƙasa sosai ko ma matuƙar ƙasa. 09:50.568 --> 09:57.881 Muna da bincike guda ɗaya mai matsakaici, wanda shawarar STIKO ke nuni da shi, wanda ke magana 09:57.881 --> 10:01.966 ne game da tasirin magani. Kuma hakan ba ya isa. 10:01.966 --> 10:07.207 Kuma a al'ada, STIKO tana cewa waɗannan su ne abin da ake kira hanyoyin aiki na yau da kullum, eh. 10:07.207 --> 10:13.112 Suna da dindindin, su ne hanyoyin duniya baki ɗaya ko ƙa'idodin duniya baki ɗaya da ake bi 10:13.112 --> 10:17.771 wajen rarraba cututtuka da tasirin magunguna. 10:17.771 --> 10:21.193 Ya kamata su kasance aƙalla matsakaici koyaushe. Amma ba mu da hakan kwata-kwata. 10:21.193 --> 10:29.263 Kuma hakan na iya kasancewa da polio, ban sani da tabbaci ba, amma dole ne ka duba nazarin da STIKO ke da su. 10:29.263 --> 10:34.998 Kuma watakila ba mu da wani bincike kwata-kwata da ya wuce matsakaici. 10:34.998 --> 10:42.359 Sannan – kuma ga dabara – idan ba mu da yanayin lafiya, STIKO ba ta yanke shawara ne kawai bisa hujjojin 10:42.359 --> 10:49.466 likitanci da kimiyya ba, sai kuma wani abin da ake kira Kwamitin Yanke Shawara ya shiga tsakani. 10:49.466 --> 10:54.802 Kuma wannan Kwamitin Yanke Shawara yakan ce: Yaya za mu iya kawo wannan kasuwa? 10:54.802 --> 10:58.623 Yaya mutane za su karɓi shi? Shin likitoci za su yi adawa? 10:58.623 --> 11:02.115 Shin za a sami adawa daga kantunan magani? Da sauransu. 11:02.115 --> 11:04.021 Yaya arha magunguna irin waɗannan da sauransu? 11:04.021 --> 11:10.146 Sai kwatsam shawarar kimiyya ta zama shawarar siyasa. To. Kuma a nan ne... 11:10.146 --> 11:12.440 Kuma hukuncin kasuwanci. 11:12.440 --> 11:14.320 Eh, an riga an yanke shawarar kasuwanci tun farko. 11:14.320 --> 11:17.857 Sai dai kawai shawara ta siyasa ce, wadda tabbas sau da yawa ake yanke ta ne saboda dalilai na kasuwanci. 11:17.857 --> 11:21.341 Sannan, tabbas, muna da masu lobbacin da ke ba 'yan siyasa shawara bisa ga haka. 11:21.341 --> 11:24.294 Sannan akwai masu lobbacin da ke ba RKI shawara da sauransu. 11:24.294 --> 11:33.801 Kuma kwatsam wani abu ya zama shawarar STIKO, ba tare da an sanar da mu cewa hujjojin likitanci da ake buƙata ba su 11:33.801 --> 11:41.880 wanzu kwata-kwata ba, amma an yi watsi da rashin hujjojin likitanci domin yanke shawarar siyasa. 11:41.880 --> 11:49.963 Wannan ita ce ainihin halin da muke ciki, kuma duk wanda ke da shawarar STIKO ya kamata ya sani cewa shawarar STIKO ba ta ce: 11:49.963 --> 11:57.446 Muna da hujjojin kimiyya a nan da ke nuna cewa an yi cikakken bincike kan wannan cuta, an yi cikakken bincike 11:57.446 --> 12:04.784 kan tasirin magunguna, da kuma cutarwar magunguna da illolinsu, amma watakila ba mu da su kwata-kwata. 12:04.784 --> 12:08.306 Shawara ce ta siyasa kawai wadda ke cewa za mu kawo shi kasuwa duk da haka. 12:08.306 --> 12:12.222 Kuma tare da shawarwari da shawarar STIKO, a bayyane muke da yanayi inda magani ke 12:12.222 --> 12:14.807 sayarwa fiye da yadda zai kasance ba tare da su ba. 12:14.807 --> 12:19.142 Wannan abin tsanani ne. Ba batun jin daɗin mutane ne kawai ba, ba shi ne abin da ake mai da hankali a kai ba; 12:19.142 --> 12:23.534 sai dai wasu muradun daban gaba ɗaya suka zama abin da ake mai da hankali a kai cikin sauri. 12:23.534 --> 12:29.651 Mista Ludwig, bana son tsaya kan batun polio, sai dai in zurfafa kaɗan. 12:29.651 --> 12:40.221 Misali, likitan, Dr Stefan Lanker, yana mai da hankali kan tunani da ji. 12:40.221 --> 12:48.573 Cikin tunanin ɗan adam yana da muhimmanci ba wai kawai ga yadda mutum ke ganewa ba, har ma ga alamomin da ke bayyana a jiki. 12:48.573 --> 12:56.869 Wani bincike na shekarar 1984, wanda ya jaddada duka lafiyar kwakwalwa da abinci, ya nuna cewa abinci lallai yana 12:56.869 --> 13:01.471 da tasiri – ciki har da kan alamomin da jiki zai iya samu. 13:01.471 --> 13:08.323 Kuma a can, misali, an kuma bayyana cewa gubobi, gubobi na muhalli, na iya shafar tunani. 13:08.323 --> 13:16.424 A kwatsam sai na ji baƙin ciki ko tashin hankali ko wani abu daban, wanda kuma sau da yawa ke shafar jiki. 13:16.424 --> 13:28.799 Don haka akwai abubuwa da dama da a ƙarshe ke tasiri ko ke ƙayyade alamomin da jiki ke bayyana, bari in faɗa haka. 13:28.799 --> 13:34.872 Don haka ba koyaushe abu yake da sauƙin fahimta kamar yadda mutane ke faɗa ba; misali, game da Covid-19, ana 13:34.872 --> 13:41.377 ganin ƙwayar cutar ce ke haifar da rashin lafiya, amma akwai yiwuwar wasu abubuwa da dama ne ke haddasa hakan. 13:41.377 --> 13:49.602 Farfesa Bhakdi ya kuma ce, misali, cewa a yanayin cutar hanta kamar hepatitis, sau da yawa magunguna, watakila ma amfani da 13:49.602 --> 13:57.961 magunguna ba bisa ƙa'ida ba, shan giya, duk irin waɗannan abubuwa suna taka rawa, ba wai kawai ƙwayar cutar hanta ke sa hanta 13:57.961 --> 14:02.612 ta kamu da rashin lafiya ba. Kuma shi ya sa nake lissafa shi. 14:02.612 --> 14:07.627 Gaskiyar ita ce, yanzu muna da sabon yarjejeniyar annobar WHO. 14:07.627 --> 14:12.729 Sannan akwai Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya – waɗanda WHO ma ta kaddamar da su. 14:12.729 --> 14:20.515 A ka'ida, an riga an ba mu shawara a aikace: Ya ku mutane, muna shiga wani zamani na annobobi masu ci gaba, babu 14:20.515 --> 14:24.901 yadda za a kauce masa. Komai yana da alaƙa a duniya baki ɗaya. 14:24.901 --> 14:28.451 Kuma idan wani lamari ya faru a Afirka – duk abin da zai kasance – to dole ne mu fara yi wa mutane 14:28.451 --> 14:31.068 rigakafi anan, a matsayin mataki na kariya da sauransu. 14:31.068 --> 14:42.871 Amma idan duk waɗannan alaƙa, waɗanda kawai suke alamun jiki, har yanzu suna da fannoni da dama kuma ba a bayyana su ba, to a 14:42.871 --> 14:52.183 matsayin 'yan ƙasa, ƙarƙashin abin da zan kira ZAAVV, wanda ya taso a lokacin firgita-firgita na annobar 14:52.183 --> 15:00.665 coronavirus, lallai ya kamata mu tambayi kanmu: ta yaya za mu hana irin waɗannan laifuka? 15:00.665 --> 15:05.985 Laifi ne a kan bil'adama cewa muna sake fuskantar takunkumi, ana tilasta mana shan magani, kuma ana iya 15:05.985 --> 15:10.994 tilasta mana shiga asibiti, kamar yadda aka yi a babban ƙwayar a Italiya da sauran ƙasashe. 15:10.994 --> 15:16.156 An gano kana da Covid-19 – yanzu dole ne ka tafi asibiti. 15:16.156 --> 15:20.106 Dole ne a ware ku da sauransu. Sannan a tilasta muku shan magani, a tilasta muku amfani da 15:20.106 --> 15:22.939 na'urar taimakon numfashi, mutane sun mutu kamar ƙwari. 15:22.939 --> 15:26.408 Wadannan duk laifuka ne masu tsanani sosai. 15:26.408 --> 15:33.111 Kuma idan wani abu makamancin haka yana gab da faruwa, yayin da WHO kusan ta riga ta sanar da shi: 15:33.111 --> 15:38.650 Yanzu muna shiga wani zamani na annobobi. Dole ne mu tanadi kanmu don haka. 15:38.650 --> 15:43.184 Ta yaya 'yan ƙasa za su iya kare kansu daga wannan? Me za su iya yi? 15:43.184 --> 15:48.134 Da farko, a matsayin 'yan ƙasa, mu mutane ne masu 'yanci. 15:48.134 --> 15:52.697 Mu mutane ne masu 'yanci, muna iya kula da kanmu da farko. 15:52.697 --> 16:05.884 Kuma ina ganin cewa WHO da wannan labarin annoba da muke da shi yanzu, tabbas, kayan aikin talla ne ga masana'antar magunguna. 16:05.884 --> 16:12.093 Kuma kawai ka duba waɗanda a zahiri ke ba da kuɗi ga WHO da waɗanda ke zuba jari a WHO... 16:12.093 --> 16:13.017 To, wanene wannan? 16:13.017 --> 16:17.939 Eh, daga cikin wasu, Gidauniyar Bill & Melinda Gates tana biyan kuɗaɗe masu yawa. 16:17.939 --> 16:25.040 Don haka, yayin da ƙasashe da yawa ke janye tallafin kuɗi daga WHO, za a fi samun tallafin kuɗi daga masu zaman kansu. 16:25.040 --> 16:36.546 Wannan yana nufin cewa kamfanoni masu zaman kansu, masana'antar magunguna, Kamfanonin magunguna da ƙungiyoyin ɓoyayyunsu na da 16:36.546 --> 16:47.249 sha'awar tabbatar da cewa ƙungiyoyi kamar WHO, STIKO, Hukumar Magunguna ta Turai, Hukumar Magunguna ta Amurka da sauransu 16:47.249 --> 16:58.307 koyaushe suna mai da hankali kan shawarwarinsu da ra'ayoyinsu game da mafita na magunguna – kuma kaɗan kan abin da ka ambata, 16:58.307 --> 17:03.845 wato mafita na abinci da kuma watakila na ilimin halayya. 17:03.845 --> 17:06.281 Wannan shi ne ainihin yakin al'adu da ke faruwa a Amurka. 17:06.281 --> 17:15.441 A gefe guda, muna da lauya a can, Robert Kennedy Junior, wanda shi ne Ministan Lafiya a Amurka kuma shi ne wanda ya kafa motsin 17:15.441 --> 17:21.716 MAHA, wato motsin Make America Healthy Again, wanda ya taka muhimmiyar rawa wajen zaben 17:21.716 --> 17:25.328 Donald Trump a matsayin shugaban ƙasa tun farko. 17:25.328 --> 17:32.763 Saboda wannan motsin MAHA game da Robert Kennedy a zahiri ya fito ne daga bangaren Jam'iyyar Democrat, wato Jam'iyyar Democrat, 17:32.763 --> 17:37.857 kuma shi ne a jihohin da ake fafatawa inda ya tabbatar cewa kuri'un da suka dace sun je 17:37.857 --> 17:40.673 wa Trump, har Trump ya lashe waɗannan jihohin. 17:40.673 --> 17:41.946 Ya ci a matsayin ɗan jam'iyyar Republican. 17:41.946 --> 17:43.532 Daidai lokacin da Jam'iyyar Republican ta yi nasara. 17:43.532 --> 17:48.747 Kuma na san mutane da yawa daga wannan motsin MAHA, wannan motsin Make America Healthy 17:48.747 --> 17:51.663 Again. Shi ne ainihin abin da yake game da shi. 17:51.663 --> 17:58.862 Suna cewa muna dubawa ne kawai idan alamun sun riga sun bayyana, lokacin da rashin lafiya ya 17:58.862 --> 18:02.060 barke, to ta yaya za mu magance shi da magani? 18:02.060 --> 18:07.100 Wannan abu ne bayyananne. Da ni wakilin kamfanin magunguna ne, ni ma haka zan yi tunani. 18:07.100 --> 18:11.186 Ra'ayina ba zai kasance: Shin muna da mutane masu lafiya? 18:11.186 --> 18:17.952 Maimakon haka, ra'ayina shi ne: Ta yaya zan sa mutane su kasance marasa lafiya sosai har mu sami kudi daga gare su a ƙarshe? 18:17.952 --> 18:21.199 Saboda masana'antar magunguna ba ta samun kudi daga mutane masu lafiya. 18:21.199 --> 18:29.568 Don haka ba batun samun mafi kyawun kiwon lafiya ba ne, kamar yadda Yarjejeniyar Zamantakewar Duniya ta ce, sai 18:29.568 --> 18:34.710 dai batun samun riba mafi yawa daga harkar kiwon lafiya. 18:34.710 --> 18:39.890 Kuma yanzu mutane watakila za su sake cewa Ludwig, wanda ya faɗi wannan a cikin hirar, mai tsarin ƙarya ne... 18:39.890 --> 18:45.763 Amma haka duniyarmu ke aiki. Muna rayuwa a duniyar kasuwanci, kuma a wannan duniyar komai yana nufin samun riba. 18:45.763 --> 18:46.210 Eh. 18:46.210 --> 18:50.668 Wannan yana nufin cewa idan kuna cikin masana'antar magunguna, za ku yi la'akari da: 18:50.668 --> 18:57.796 Ta yaya za mu tallata kayayyakinmu ga maza da mata ta yadda za mu amfana daga gare su? 18:57.796 --> 19:04.389 Da aka kawo batun kakaba haramcin shan taba, masana'antar taba ta hanzarta kafa wasu cibiyoyi da aka keɓe don 19:04.389 --> 19:08.491 tabbatar da cewa hayakin taba ba shi da haɗari sosai. 19:08.491 --> 19:13.116 Kuma, tabbas, ya kuma kafa cibiyoyin bincike da suka yi nazari kan cutar sankarar huhu da sauransu. 19:13.116 --> 19:18.435 Wannan ya bayyana sosai. A yanzu, wannan mataki ne na al'ada gaba ɗaya kuma mai ma'ana da masana'antu ke ɗauka. 19:18.435 --> 19:27.789 Kuma hakan na nufin cewa masana'antar magunguna tana da sha'awar sarrafa WHO, kuma masana'antar magunguna ba ta da sha'awar hana 19:27.789 --> 19:36.194 barkewar annoba, sai dai tana da sha'awar barkewar annoba domin ta kawo magungunan da suka dace, waɗanda ta riga ta 19:36.194 --> 19:43.780 yi musu haƙƙin mallaka kuma ta kera su a gaba – ko mafi dacewa, ta shirya don kera su – zuwa kasuwa. 19:43.780 --> 19:46.945 Mun ga haka da mura ta alade, kuma muna ganinsa yanzu da coronavirus. 19:46.945 --> 19:48.835 Kuma, kamar yadda na ce, za ka iya ganin wannan motsin mayar da martani. 19:48.835 --> 19:50.460 Kana son sanin abin da za a iya yi game da shi. 19:50.460 --> 19:54.401 Don haka a Amurka yanzu akwai wannan motsin mayar da martani, Make America Healthy 19:54.401 --> 19:56.835 Again. Suna da wuraren farawa guda biyu ne kawai. 19:56.835 --> 20:02.893 Babban batu na farko shi ne cewa Kennedy ya ce duk da cewa mu a Amurka mu ne ƙasa mafi arziki a masana'antu a duniya, mu ne ke da 20:02.893 --> 20:06.153 mafi ƙarancin tsawon rayuwa idan aka kwatanta da sauran ƙasashe. 20:06.153 --> 20:08.171 Me ya sa haka? Wannan ba zai yi daidai ba. 20:08.171 --> 20:11.360 Mu ƙasa ce mai arziki kuma mu na da ƙarancin tsawon rai. 20:11.360 --> 20:14.343 Sa'an nan ya kalle ya ce: Yaya shirin cin abinci yake a Amurka? 20:14.343 --> 20:19.184 Sannan, tabbas, za ka ga abinci mai sauri da yawa, abinci marar lafiya da yawa, abinci mai saurin shirya da 20:19.184 --> 20:23.262 yawa, abinci na roba da yawa ma, wanda yanzu ake haɓaka a can, da sauransu. Kuma ya ce... 20:23.262 --> 20:24.326 Guba na muhalli... 20:24.326 --> 20:28.427 Gubobi na muhalli, abubuwa da yawa, magunguna da yawa, a nan ne komai ke farawa. Musamman 20:28.427 --> 20:30.750 wannan rikicin opioid a Amurka da sauransu. 20:30.750 --> 20:34.863 Don haka a Amurka, adadin magunguna da ba a taɓa gani ba... – ruwan sha ba shi da tsafta 20:34.863 --> 20:37.633 saboda yana ɗauke da ragowar magunguna da sauransu. 20:37.633 --> 20:40.390 Don haka hakan na nufin zai fara ne daga wannan takamaiman wuri ya ce: 20:40.390 --> 20:46.094 Muna buƙatar inganta abinci mai gina jiki; muna buƙatar tabbatar da cewa mutane suna cin abinci mai lafiya. 20:46.094 --> 20:52.555 Kuma dole ne mu tabbatar an rage gubobi na muhalli. Wannan shi ne ainihin hanyar. 20:52.555 --> 20:58.100 Sannan sai mu gani: Shin abin da masana'antar magunguna ke faɗa gaskiya ne? Wannan shi ne mataki na gaba... 20:58.100 --> 21:01.412 Ya maye gurbin kwamitin rigakafi na tsaye gaba ɗaya a can kuma ya ce: 21:01.412 --> 21:06.797 Aikin ku yanzu shi ne a duba a zahiri ko duk shawarwarin da ake da su suna da muhimmanci ko a'a. 21:06.797 --> 21:10.140 Yanzu kuma duba nazarin hujjoji. 21:10.140 --> 21:14.193 An yi korafi mai ƙarfi a duk faɗin duniya, musamman anan Jamus, tabbas, domin ya bayyana... 21:14.193 --> 21:20.991 To, zan iya gaya maka cewa mun duba wannan dangane da coronavirus, kuma babu wani bincike mai tabbas game da coronavirus! 21:20.991 --> 21:25.492 Duk da haka, muna da shawarwari. Eh, muna da shawarwari na yin rigakafi ba tare da wata hujja mai 21:25.492 --> 21:27.078 ƙarfi daga bincike ba. Kuma hakan tabbas zai... 21:27.078 --> 21:30.226 Kuma wannan ne tare da duk munanan tasirin gefe da kuma mutuwa da yawa. 21:30.226 --> 21:32.720 Daidai! Kuma ina da tabbacin zai kasance haka ma da sauran alluran rigakafi. 21:32.720 --> 21:36.445 Yanzu Robert Kennedy yana bincikar wannan. Kuma kwatsam sai aka yi babbar korafi. 21:36.445 --> 21:39.375 Me ya sa? Wa ke haifar da wannan korafi kuma wa ke shirya shi? 21:39.375 --> 21:44.089 Tabbas, kafofin watsa labarai ma suna amfana matuka daga wannan tallafin kuɗi na masana'antar magunguna, 21:44.089 --> 21:46.633 daga tallace-tallace, da kuɗaɗen da aka saka a cikinsa. 21:46.633 --> 21:51.160 Bill Gates, ga shi nan mun koma ga Bill Gates kuma, ya biya Der Spiegel miliyoyi da dama, misali. 21:51.160 --> 21:55.903 Wannan yana nufin cewa Der Spiegel da jaridu, waɗanda ke samun ƙarancin kuɗi, suna kuma 21:55.903 --> 21:58.580 dogaro sosai ga tallafin masana'antar magunguna. 21:58.580 --> 22:02.420 Don haka, a halin yau da kullum, su ma suna ba da rahoto kan waɗannan labaran. Kuma wannan shi ne makasudin. 22:02.420 --> 22:07.513 Don haka, da farko dai, a cikin tsarin siyasa da muke da shi yanzu, ya kamata mu tambayi 22:07.513 --> 22:10.406 kanmu: su wanene mutanen da ke adawa da shi? 22:10.406 --> 22:15.757 Yanzu akwai wani motsi mai karfi sosai kuma babba na adawa da ke fitowa daga Amurka, kuma sun kafa 22:15.757 --> 22:18.945 wannan MAHA, wannan motsin Make America Healthy Again. 22:18.945 --> 22:21.053 Babu dalili da zai hana yin haka a Jamus. 22:21.053 --> 22:27.500 Kuma mu a ZAAVV ma mun shirya gaba ɗaya don tallafawa waɗannan batutuwan daidai a matsayin ƙungiya. 22:27.500 --> 22:29.600 Muna riga muna aiki tare da motsin MAHA sosai. 22:29.600 --> 22:33.047 Mun san mutanen, muna tuni cikin hulɗa da su, mun riga mun haɗu da su. 22:33.047 --> 22:41.695 Hakanan yana da muhimmanci a jaddada cewa muna bukatar hujjoji masu bayyananne daga bincike, kuma musamman 22:41.695 --> 22:50.027 magunguna ya kamata a rubuta su ne kawai idan muna da bincike da ke da akalla hujjoji masu ƙarfi. 22:50.027 --> 22:53.695 Mataki matsakaici har yanzu ana yarda da shi, amma yana da ɗan yawa. 22:53.695 --> 22:57.672 Sai wani abu ya canza – ba za a sake amincewa da magunguna da yawa ba. 22:57.672 --> 22:59.656 Kuma, tabbas, mutane dole ne su kare kansu. 22:59.656 --> 23:05.031 Don haka, batu na farko, abin da ka faɗa, tabbas kowa dole ne ya fara mai da hankali kan yadda yake ci. 23:05.031 --> 23:11.617 Wannan yana nufin dole ne ka duba ko za ka iya cin abinci na yankinku da kuma tallafawa manoman yankinku. 23:11.617 --> 23:17.095 Yanzu sun fito kan tituna don yin zanga-zanga kan wannan manufar da aka tsakiya, suna jayayya cewa mutane ya 23:17.095 --> 23:22.226 kamata su ci abincin yankinsu, su ci abinci mai lafiya, su kuma kula da daidaiton abincinsu. 23:22.226 --> 23:28.760 Da farko dai, wannan lamari ne na mutum ɗaya. Kuma sai, lokacin da waɗannan matakan gwamnati suka fara aiki, dole ne ka yi yaƙi. 23:28.760 --> 23:32.765 Za mu sake fita tituna. Sa'an nan sai mu ce: A'a, ba zan amince da hakan ba. 23:32.765 --> 23:35.289 Sannan ka dauki mataki da ya dace. 23:35.289 --> 23:40.747 Hmm. A matsayin ɗan adam, ka kuma ce: Ni na da haƙƙoƙina na ɗan adam na kaina, ba za a iya 23:40.747 --> 23:43.617 sassauci a kansu ba kuma ina nacewa a kansu! 23:43.617 --> 23:53.520 Kuma ba lallai ne in bi wannan tilastaccen magani ba, ko menene yake, ko wane irin siffa yake ɗauka. 23:53.520 --> 23:56.264 Eh, muna ganin cewa sakamakon yana faruwa ta atomatik. 23:56.264 --> 24:02.674 Misali, muna ganin cewa wannan buƙatar allurar rigakafi da ta shafi wurin aiki tana haifar da matsaloli 24:02.674 --> 24:08.859 masu matuƙar tsanani a fannin matasan ƙwararru, musamman a fannin matasan ƙwararrun likitoci. 24:08.859 --> 24:11.166 Eh, lallai wannan ma martani ne a kansa. 24:11.166 --> 24:14.440 Don haka watakila babu wanda zai ce komai kuma mutane ba za su fito tituna ba. 24:14.440 --> 24:20.926 Amma matasa da yawa ba sa zaɓar wannan sana'ar likitanci saboda kullum akwai wannan takobin Damocles da ke rataye a kanta, inda 24:20.926 --> 24:25.216 mutane ke cewa, yanzu ga annoba ta gaba, yanzu dole ne a yi maka allurar rigakafi da 24:25.216 --> 24:27.961 wannan sinadari ka kuma sha waɗannan magunguna. 24:27.961 --> 24:30.461 Kuma tabbas ba sa son hakan ma. Suna kuma mai da hankali kan jikinsu. 24:30.461 --> 24:31.751 Eh, tabbas. 24:31.751 --> 24:35.900 Kuma sai kawai ka ce "A'a!" ka ce: "Dakata, ba zan yi hakan ba!" 24:35.900 --> 24:39.897 Kuma idan kana cikin shakka, dole ne ka ce, "To zan bar wannan sana'a." 24:39.897 --> 24:41.960 Tabbas, wannan ma hukunci ne na mutum ɗaya. 24:41.960 --> 24:45.391 Amma na san cewa mutane da yawa sun yi haka ko da a lokacin annobar coronavirus. 24:45.391 --> 24:49.756 Kuma musamman waɗanda suka bar sana'ar da gangan ba za su koma ba. Ba sa so. 24:49.756 --> 24:57.583 Kuma hakan na nufin muna da – wannan babbar matsala ce a Jamus, kuma ba a ma tattauna ta ba – wani 24:57.583 --> 25:01.839 babban gibi a fannin likitanci da ba a cike shi ba. 25:01.839 --> 25:03.830 Eh, babbar ƙarancin ma'aikata. 25:03.830 --> 25:05.634 Daidai. 25:05.634 --> 25:11.264 To, yanzu akwai kuma wannan Vetopedia. 25:11.264 --> 25:21.272 Shin ka shaida lahani sakamakon allurar rigakafi? Rubuta shi a Vetopedia, ƙamus kyauta na masu ra'ayin adawa: www.vetopedia.org 25:21.272 --> 25:29.406 Wannan dandamali, wannan ma'ajiyar bayanai, inda za ka iya shigar da, misali, lahani na allurar rigakafi yayin 25:29.406 --> 25:33.701 annobar coronavirus – ko wani lahani na allurar rigakafi. 25:33.701 --> 25:37.987 Amma musamman a lokacin annobar coronavirus, an samu rahotannin lamura da dama na lahani sakamakon allurar rigakafi, ciki har 25:37.987 --> 25:40.208 da mutuwar mutane – da dama daga cikinsu daga baya za a iya... 25:40.208 --> 25:46.459 Dangi ma za su iya yin rajistar wannan lahani na allurar rigakafi a can. 25:46.459 --> 25:54.686 Shin wannan ma ba wata muhimmiyar hanya ba ce, zan ce, daga mahangar doka, daga mahangar binciken 25:54.686 --> 26:00.476 shari'a, domin samun wata hanyar aiwatar da aiki a can ma? 26:00.476 --> 26:08.105 Matakan tilastawa ba su yi kyau a wancan lokacin ba, kuma ba ma son komawa ga wani yanayi inda ake kawai tilasta mana wani 26:08.105 --> 26:12.842 abu a annobobi na gaba – da irin waɗannan mummunan sakamako. 26:12.842 --> 26:16.678 Ba za ka yarda cewa wannan ma muhimmin kayan aiki ne ga lauyoyi ba? 26:16.678 --> 26:21.701 Eh, wannan ma wani abu ne da muka koya daga wannan lokacin annoba. 26:21.701 --> 26:24.225 A zahiri lokaci ne na matakan annoba. 26:24.225 --> 26:31.147 Kuma abin da muke gani yanzu – musamman ta hannun mutane kamar Tom Lausen – a cikin kwamitocin bincike: 26:31.147 --> 26:35.022 Hukunan da ke da alhakin ainihi ba su yi aikinsu ba. 26:35.022 --> 26:38.990 Gidan Nazarin Paul Ehrlich bai rubuta bayanan yadda ya kamata ba. 26:38.990 --> 26:41.404 Ba a aika saƙonnin gargaɗi ba. 26:41.404 --> 26:45.762 Kamfanonin inshorar lafiya... – a gaskiya, kowa ya kamata ya sani, domin, mu ce, alamomin gargaɗi suna ko'ina, 26:45.762 --> 26:48.225 ƙirarrakin gargaɗi ya kamata su riga sun yi ta ƙara a ko'ina. 26:48.225 --> 26:55.185 Ina nufin, a Cibiyar Paul Ehrlich, mun gano a kwamitin bincike na Brandenburg cewa Cibiyar Paul Ehrlich ba ta 26:55.185 --> 27:01.148 ma da isasshen ƙarfin sabar don rubuta duk rahotannin da suka shigo game da illolin gefe. 27:01.148 --> 27:01.624 Kai. 27:01.624 --> 27:06.996 Wannan yana nufin cewa ikirarin cewa ba mu da irin waɗannan tasirin gefe da yawa ya danganta ne da cewa ba 27:06.996 --> 27:10.501 a rubuta ko adana tasirin gefe da aka ba da rahoto ba. 27:10.501 --> 27:15.219 Abin da ban gani ba, ban da shi. Kuma Tom Lausen ya magance hakan sosai. 27:15.219 --> 27:20.793 Kuma hakan na nufin cewa ko a can, za mu iya amfani da ƙirar ne kawai don samun ainihin 27:20.793 --> 27:24.158 adadin da aka cimma ta wannan allurar rigakafi. 27:24.158 --> 27:30.117 Don haka, tabbas yana da kyau idan akwai ƙoƙarin masu zaman kansu da ke yin waɗannan abubuwa daidai, domin 27:30.117 --> 27:33.440 aƙalla ya zama a bayyane cewa akwai ƙarin misalai da yawa. 27:33.440 --> 27:39.038 Don haka idan wata hukuma ta gwamnati, wadda kusan tana da albarkatu marasa iyaka, ba za ta iya fahimtar wannan ba, sai 27:39.038 --> 27:42.148 wani yunƙuri na masu zaman kansu ya yi hakan, kuma kwatsam ka ga: 27:42.148 --> 27:46.150 Ya Allah na, rahotanni nawa muke da su a nan, kuma ainihin abin da ya faru shi ne menene? 27:46.150 --> 27:48.767 To aƙalla za ka iya duba shi da farko. 27:48.767 --> 27:54.833 Kuma daga wani lokaci, ko manyan kafofin watsa labarai, wato kafofin watsa labarai na gama gari, ba za 27:54.833 --> 27:57.931 su iya yin adawa da shi ko ɓoye abin da ya faru ba. 27:57.931 --> 28:02.837 Wannan ma wata muhimmiyar kwarewa ce da muka samu a wannan lokacin. 28:02.837 --> 28:06.376 Dole ne mu fitar da duk waɗannan abubuwa daga duhu mu kawo su cikin haske. 28:06.376 --> 28:08.580 Don haka tambayarka ita ce, me mutane za su iya yi? 28:08.580 --> 28:12.940 Za ka iya, misali, kafa irin waɗannan shirye-shirye. Za ka iya yin rijista a can da kanka. 28:12.940 --> 28:19.069 Za ku iya ba da bayanan ku, ciki har da ga ZAAVV , don nuna cewa, kodayake ku, a matsayin hukumomin da suka 28:19.069 --> 28:22.634 dace, ba ku rubuta waɗannan bayanan ba, mu muna rubutawa. 28:22.634 --> 28:27.697 Ka kuma ƙarfafa likitanka ya ce: Wannan lahani ne na allurar rigakafi, kuma ina gaya maka ka ba da rahoto ga 28:27.697 --> 28:30.703 kamfanin inshorar lafiya a matsayin lahani na allurar rigakafi! 28:30.703 --> 28:33.572 Saboda likitoci da yawa ba sa yin hakan. Marasa lafiya kawai su nace a kai. 28:33.572 --> 28:39.095 Likitin yana da wajibin yin hakan. Idan zai yiwu ya zama lahani daga allurar rigakafi, dole ne ya ba da rahoto. 28:39.095 --> 28:44.786 Abubuwa irin haka, inda kake nacewa ka ba da rahoto ga kamfanin inshorar lafiyarka ko, idan kana da shakka, ka 28:44.786 --> 28:49.540 shiga wani shafin yanar gizo irin wannan ka ba da rahoto a can, domin mu ga cewa wani abu ya faru a zahiri. 28:49.540 --> 28:52.392 Kuma za ka ga cewa iska ta siyasa na canzawa. 28:52.392 --> 29:01.069 Saboda ƙarfin jam'iyyu kamar AfD ko BSW , – a gabashin Jamus, yanzu muna da sama da kashi 25 cikin ɗari a ko'ina, don haka za 29:01.069 --> 29:10.220 a iya kafa kwamitocin bincike ko kwamitocin tambaya a ko'ina, waɗanda aƙalla za su jawo hankalin jama'a kan waɗannan al'amura. 29:10.220 --> 29:12.728 Kuma kawai ka yi magana ka ci gaba da dagewa. 29:12.728 --> 29:23.630 Eh, kuma daidai haka nake ji, cewa yanzu lokaci ne mai kyau, a wannan zamanin bayan cutar coronavirus, don matsa 29:23.630 --> 29:35.120 lamba a kan irin wannan bita ko kimantawa, don aiki a kai, musamman domin hana karin laifuka, ko ba haka ba? 29:35.120 --> 29:39.853 Eh, daidai ne. Ainihin maganar kariya ce. Dole ne mu koyi abin da ya faru. 29:39.853 --> 29:46.384 Zan iya ba da shawara kawai ku duba... – yana kan layi, bidiyon Kwamitin Bincike na Brandenburg. 29:46.384 --> 29:52.729 A jihar Brandenburg, majalisar dokoki ta kafa kwamitin bincike don sake nazarin lokacin cutar coronavirus. 29:52.729 --> 29:58.173 Ba kamar kwamitin bincike ba, hukumar bincike koyaushe tana kallon gaba kawai. 29:58.173 --> 30:00.173 Wannan yana nufin kawai ka duba abin da za a iya yin shi mafi kyau. 30:00.173 --> 30:06.735 Amma Kwamitin Bincike na Brandenburg musamman an tsara shi ne ta yadda, saboda yanayin siyasa a can, akwai 30:06.735 --> 30:12.580 masana masu suka da yawa, kuma waɗannan masana masu suka da yawa suna samun damar yin magana. 30:12.580 --> 30:13.406 Mai ban sha'awa. 30:13.406 --> 30:19.087 Akwai Gerd Antes, misali, akwai Stefan Homburg, akwai Tom Lausen. Don haka suna da yawa. 30:19.087 --> 30:26.337 Misali, mashawarcin kimiyya na ƙungiyar majalisar AfD shi ne Stephan Kohn, wanda ya yi aiki a Ma'aikatar 30:26.337 --> 30:32.471 Cikin Gida ta Tarayya, ya fallasa wannan takardar mai girgiza, kuma aka kore shi saboda hakan. 30:32.471 --> 30:34.916 Yanzu yana cikin tsarin sake kimantawa a Brandenburg, a ce. 30:34.916 --> 30:41.909 Wannan yana ba mu bayanai masu yawa game da abin da ya faru, sannan mu duba gaba zuwa makoma. 30:41.909 --> 30:49.404 Kuma a nan ne daidai inda mahimman matakai suke: ilimantar da mutane, da farko gano: abin da ya faru a 30:49.404 --> 30:53.760 can, yadda ya faru, da kuma menene gaskiyar lamarin? 30:53.760 --> 31:01.027 Kuma Wolfgang Wodarg, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a farkon wannan lokacin coronavirus – wanda haka ne ya sa na gane cewa wani abu 31:01.027 --> 31:07.578 ba daidai ba a nan – ya ce a cikin ɗaya daga cikin bidiyonsa na farko-farko, watakila ma bidiyo na farko, cewa 31:07.578 --> 31:13.362 idan da gaske akwai annoba, za mu ga gawarwakin mutane a kan tituna. Sa'an nan kowa zai sani... 31:13.362 --> 31:14.221 …wata annoba ce. 31:14.221 --> 31:15.700 Wannan annoba ce, mutane na mutuwa. 31:15.700 --> 31:16.955 Kuma ba annobar takarda ba. 31:16.955 --> 31:25.215 Daidai. Kuma yanzu, idan muka fita kan titi, ba ma samun kowa da zai iya gaya mana: 31:25.215 --> 31:30.024 Ai, na san wani mutum da ya mutu sakamakon coronavirus. Wannan ba kasafai ake ganin hakan ba. 31:30.024 --> 31:35.989 Don haka babu kowa, saboda za mu ga cewa matsakaicin shekaru na waɗanda suka mutu daga coronavirus ko tare da 31:35.989 --> 31:40.260 coronavirus shi ne 84 – wanda ya fi tsammanin tsawon rayuwarmu. 31:40.260 --> 31:42.754 Amma kowa ya san wani da ya sha wahala sakamakon allurar rigakafi. 31:42.754 --> 31:48.680 Kowa ya san wani da ya sha wahala sakamakon allurar rigakafi, wanda allurar ta yi masa lahani – bugun jini, bugun zuciya, 31:48.680 --> 31:51.527 ciwon zuciya, kumburin tsokar zuciya, mutuwa da sauransu. 31:51.527 --> 31:57.550 Wato, ainihin annobar da muke ciki ta kasance illa ce ta allurar rigakafi. 31:57.550 --> 32:02.740 Na kuma ga wannan a cikin mutane da ba su da matuƙar banbanci ko masu yin tsokaci. 32:02.740 --> 32:07.232 Amma idan na yi magana da mutane a yau – tabbas ba sa yawan amincewa da hakan a bainar jama'a, amma 32:07.232 --> 32:10.925 idan suna magana a tsakaninsu, dukansu suna cewa: 32:10.925 --> 32:15.231 Na san wani, ko na fuskance shi da kaina: tun bayan da na yi wannan allurar rigakafi, ina jin rashin lafiya, 32:15.231 --> 32:19.144 kullum ina rashin lafiya, kullum ina samun matsaloli da sauransu. Kuma wannan ne ainihin maganar. 32:19.144 --> 32:21.824 Kuma a nan ne mutane za su... – Ina ganin wannan shi ne darasin da muka koya. 32:21.824 --> 32:26.381 Kuma idan irin waɗannan tashoshin, waɗanda za a kuma yi amfani da su a nan gaba, sun fi musu bayyana cewa akwai 32:26.381 --> 32:30.575 illa, to mutane za su zama masu yin tsokaci sosai kuma watakila za su fi yuwuwar cewa a'a kuma su ce: 32:30.575 --> 32:34.288 Ba zan sake bin wannan ba. Ba zan sake yin wannan wa kaina da jikina ba! 32:34.288 --> 32:42.762 Eh, na fahimta. Don taƙaita: Gabaɗaya, ainihin maganar ita ce wayar da kai. 32:42.762 --> 32:48.380 Ba game da lafiyarmu ba ne, game da tsarin kasuwanci ne na masana'antar magunguna. 32:48.380 --> 32:51.942 A zahiri, akwai masana'antu na annoba a bayansa. 32:51.942 --> 32:56.609 Kamfanoni ba sa sha'awar mu kasance cikin koshin lafiya; a ƙa'ida, suna samun kuɗi ne kawai daga 32:56.609 --> 32:59.913 mutanen da ba su da lafiya, idan na fahimta daidai. 32:59.913 --> 33:02.137 Eh, tabbas, mun sani ma. 33:02.137 --> 33:10.200 Don haka, ko da tare da likitoci na yau da kullum, lokacin da likita ke ciyarwa tare da majinyaci yana da gajere. 33:10.200 --> 33:14.004 Ina tsammanin cewa a zahiri wannan shi ne matsakaicin kimanin 'yan daƙiƙoƙi. 33:14.004 --> 33:19.420 Sai likitoci sukan karɓi shirye-shirye na kwamfuta daga masana'antar magunguna, waɗanda suke amfani da su. 33:19.420 --> 33:25.548 Sa'an nan maganin da ke bayyana koyaushe shi ne wanda kamfanin da ya ƙera wannan shirin kwamfuta ko na'urorin dakin likita 33:25.548 --> 33:29.129 ya ɗauki nauyin kuɗinsa ko ya taimaka wajen biyan kuɗinsa. 33:29.129 --> 33:31.129 Komai game da kudi ne, tabbas komai game da kudi ne. 33:31.129 --> 33:36.200 Komai abin da ke faruwa a bangaren kiwon lafiya namu, a farko dai game da kudi ne. 33:36.200 --> 33:39.880 Tabbas, zan ce kiwon lafiya tasirin gefe ne. 33:39.880 --> 33:44.403 Kuma ni ba mutum ne da ke sukar maganin gargajiya ko yin adawa da shi ba. 33:44.403 --> 33:51.222 Muna buƙatar maganin gargajiya, kuma musamman a fannin tiyata, tabbas muna da magunguna na zamani masu inganci 33:51.222 --> 33:55.253 waɗanda suka dace da kimiyya kuma ke aiki yadda ya kamata. 33:55.253 --> 34:02.624 Amma a yawancin fannoni ko abubuwa da dama, misali a fannin ilimin cututtukan daji, duk matakan da ake ɗauka don 34:02.624 --> 34:09.408 yaki da ciwon daji, tabbas asibitoci ne ke ɗaukar nauyin su, waɗanda suke cikin bangaren kiwon lafiya. 34:09.408 --> 34:11.715 Kuma akwai adadi na kuɗi mai matuƙar yawa a ciki. 34:11.715 --> 34:17.789 Kuma a gare ni, yana da ma'ana sosai in tambayi: Me ya sa nake tunanin maganin da nake saka a 34:17.789 --> 34:21.018 jikina kawai, amma ban tunanin abin da nake ci ba? 34:21.018 --> 34:26.582 Domin shigar abubuwan gina jiki ta baki na ɗaya ne daga cikin muhimman abubuwa gaba ɗaya. 34:26.582 --> 34:32.887 Misali, koyaushe ana tattauna game da bitamin D, wanda yanzu yake ƙara zama abin da mutane da yawa ke magana a kai. 34:32.887 --> 34:39.687 Wannan yana nufin cewa yana kara bayyana cewa bitamin D ko karin bitamin D yana da matukar muhimmanci wajen hana kamuwa da cuta. 34:39.687 --> 34:47.900 Amma bitamin D yana da arha a samu, don haka ba tsarin kasuwanci bane ga masana'antar magunguna. 34:47.900 --> 34:53.114 Kuma shi ya sa yawancin fahimtar da mutane ke da ita, tabbas, su kan riƙe ta da kansu. 34:53.114 --> 34:59.739 Tabbas, masana'antar kiwon lafiya kasuwanci ce ta duniya mai darajar tiriliyan fam. 34:59.739 --> 35:02.817 Kuma tabbas, ana ba da shawarar amfani da maski idan kana son sayar da maski. 35:02.817 --> 35:10.153 Kuma, tabbas, sai ku goyi bayan binciken da ke cewa maskin FFP2, wanda a zahiri maskin ƙura ne, yana kare mutum daga ƙwayar cuta. 35:10.153 --> 35:17.947 Kuma, tabbas, ba za ka ɗauki magungunan arha da ake samu a kasuwa ba idan za ka iya samun ci gaba mai tsada da gwamnati 35:17.947 --> 35:21.817 ke ɗaukar nauyin kuɗinsa – kuma ba tare da wata alhaki ba. 35:21.817 --> 35:24.081 A ƙarshe, mu ne jiha; muna biyan kuɗinsa da harajinmu. 35:24.081 --> 35:25.254 Daidai. 35:25.254 --> 35:29.043 Amma kamar yadda ka ce a farko, kowa na da alhakin kansa. 35:29.043 --> 35:32.832 Kuma tun da ka ambaci ni a matsayin lauya, ba zan iya yin wani abu sosai a matsayin lauya ba. 35:32.832 --> 35:38.724 Abin da zan iya faɗa shi ne cewa hakkin ɗan adam a zahiri yana hana irin wannan mu'amala, wato 35:38.724 --> 35:41.387 tilastawa magani, tilastawa jiyya da sauransu. 35:41.387 --> 35:48.059 Amma idan kotuna kawai suka wuce da shi, kamar yadda muka gani a nan, to tabbas yana da wahala. 35:48.059 --> 35:52.981 Sai ka tsaya kaɗai. Idan ka yi shakka, dole ne ka ce a'a a fili ka ce, "Ba zan bi wannan ba." 35:52.981 --> 36:00.090 Kamar yadda aka rubuta a rigar T-shirt ɗinku: Yanci yana farawa da a'a. A gare ni, hakan na nufin haƙƙin ɗan adam na farko. 36:00.090 --> 36:09.232 Kuma abu na gaba shi ne kawai hana laifi – ina ganin hakan ma ta hanyar ilimi, ta hanyar 36:09.232 --> 36:15.450 ilimantar da kanka, sanar da kanka da kuma sanar da wasu. 36:15.450 --> 36:20.098 Kyau. Na gode da wannan hira. Ta kasance mai haske sosai. 36:20.098 --> 36:24.434 Wato, babu buƙatar a damu da shi sosai. 36:24.434 --> 36:38.801 Corona ta yi mana gargaɗi, ta girgiza mu mu farka. Kuma ba lallai mu miƙa wuya ga duk waɗannan biki-bikin annoba ba. 36:38.801 --> 36:41.520 Daidai. Na gode da kun ba ni damar kasancewa anan!