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Lois Sasek ke morali e moholo oa bana ba leshome le motso o
mong ba mothehi oa Kla.TV, Ivo Sasek, le mosali oa hae Anni.

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Ka 2006, o ile a nka marapo e le mookameli oa tlhahiso Panorama
Film, mme a ikarabella bakeng sa ho nka

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lifilimi le mosebetsi oa kamora tlhahiso oa
lifilimi tse kholo tse leshome tsa ntate oa hae.

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Ho tloha ka 2012, e bile hape motsamaisi oa
tlhahiso le mohokahanyi ea ka sehloohong oa

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seteishene sa thelevishene sa inthanete sa Kla.TV.

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Lois o na le bokgoni bo ikgethang ba ho hlophisa.

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Ho feta moo, matla a hae a maholo a itshetlehile
bokgoning ba hae ba ho kgothatsa le ho susumetsa batho.

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Sena se ne se ka bonahala ka tsela e totobetseng
ha AZK e ne e ntse e tshwarelwa diholong tse kgolo.

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Tlas'a tataiso ea hae, thepa eohle ea lithane tse 20 e ile ea
qhaqholloa le ho laeloa ka nako e ka tlase ho halofo

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ea hora kamora ketsahalo, 'me bohle ba neng ba le
teng ba ile ba ithabisa haholo ha ba ntse ba etsa joalo.

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Ka mokhoa o tšoanang, o thehile sehlopha se matla le
se chesehang ho tsoa ho baithaopi ba makholo ba Kla.TV.

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Ka lilemo tse fetang 13, e ntse e hasa mananeo a eona letsatsi
le letsatsi linaheng tse 195 le ka lipuo tse ka bang 80.

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Mang kapa mang ea tsebang Lois o tseba hore o na le pelo
e kholo bakeng sa batho bohle ba fokolang le ba hlokang.

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Ba ile ba tshoswa haholo ke ditlamorao tsa
bahlaselwa ba bangata ba dikgoka tsa mekgwabo ya bodemona.

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Tabatabelo ea ho fa batho bana lentsoe le ho tsebisa sechaba ka
litlolo tsa molao tse entsoeng khahlanong le bona, e ile ea etsa

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hore Lois e be mongoli oa lifilimi tsa bopaki tse fapaneng tse
kholo – joalo ka likarolo tsa 1 ho isa ho 3 tsa "Blutsekte"

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(Mokha oa Mali) – ntle le mosebetsi oa hae o jang nako o Kla.TV.

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Lifilimi tsena li shebelletsoe ka limilione.

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Ka ho kgothatseha ke dipontsho tsena, bahlaselwa ba bangata ba
nkile kgato ya ho phatlalatsa dipale tsa bona tsa mahlomola.

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Lois o buisana ka kotloloho le ba bangata ba bona.

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Filimi ea hae ea morao-rao, "1024 ba Pholohileng
Tlhekefetso ea Mekete ea Bofofu 'me Likhohola li Tsoela

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Pele!", e lokollotsoe beke e fetileng ka lipuo tse fetang 30.

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E, bashebelli ba ratehang ba AZK ena ya bo22.
Karolong ya pele, re utlwile ka dipatlisiso tse batsi tse

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entsweng ke ntate, Ivo Sasek. O di senotse ho rona.

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Batho ba makgolo ba ithaopetse ho sebedisa nako ya bona
ho pepesa mekgatlo ena ya sephiri ya lefatshe ka bophara.

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Ho ile ha etswa dipatlisiso tse tebileng, bosiu ka bosiu.

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Qetellong ea karolo ea pele ho Vetopedia, moena oa ka Elias o
re bontšitse kamoo re ka iponelang le ho netefatsa metheo ena

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ea mekhatlo ea sephiri ka bo rona 'mapeng o moholo oa lefatše.

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Re bone ka ho hlaka kamoo lefatshe lena le leng
matsohong a mekgatlo ena ya sephiri makaleng ohle.

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Matsohong a Freemasonry e maemong a phahameng, e bonahalang e
le botho haholo ebile e le setswalle ho lefatshe le kantle.

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Leha ho le jwalo, maemong a hodimo-dimo, re utlwile ka melomo
ya bona le ho bala dingolweng tsa bona hore Satane/Lucifer ke

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modimo wa bona, le hore Modimo wa Bibele le Jesu ke diabolosi.

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Mang kapa mang ea fositsoeng karolo ea pele ea
AZK o lokela ho mamela puo e fanoeng ke ntate,

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Ivo Sasek, e le motheo oa karolo ena ea bobeli.

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Hobane jwale re haha hodima seo.
Sephetho sa hore Satane e be Modimo ke sefe?

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Motho a ka nahana, "Ha ho na taba ho 'na hore na Molimo ke mang."

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Empa mesebetsi ea batho bana ba hlileng ba nkang
Satane e le molimo oa bona le ho mo rapela ke efe?

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Jwalokaha ho se ho boletsoe, ke phatlaladitse
ditlaleho tse makgolo tse tswang ho

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bahlaselwa ba Bobuelli ba Satane dilemong tsa moraorao.

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Ke ba mametse, ke buile le bona, ke balile litlaleho tsa bona, ke
shebelletse lifilimi tsa bona, 'me kaofela ha

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tsona li paka hantle seo ntate a se senotseng hoseng
hona: e leng mehlatselo ena e sehlōhō ea bana, jj.

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Ha ke tlamehe ho pheta tsohle tseo hape.

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Etsa bonnete ba hore o mamela puo ena le ho shebella lifilimi
tsena, moo bahlaseluoa ba tiisang tsohle lentsoe ka lentsoe.

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Ka mohlala, hore Freemasonry ea maemo a holimo
e metso e tebileng ho bosatane bo hloekileng.

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Empa mahlatsipa ana a itemohetse ka bo ona hore na ho bolelang ha
Satane e le "Molimo," kapa ha Satane a rapeloa, ha a

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bitsuoa, jwalo ka ha re utlwile ho tswa ho Arthur
Edward Waite, setho sa sehlopha sa bo-33 sa Freemason.

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Eo e ne e le khopolo. Bahlaseluoa ba paka hore 'nete e
ne e le tšabo e kholo ka ho fetisisa e ka nahanoang,

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ntho e sehlōhō ka ho fetisisa eo motho a ka e phelang.

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Mme ke sona seo Bobuho-satane bo hlileng bo se bolelang.

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Ke re mang kapa mang ea sebetsanang le taba ena o tla fihla
qetellong hobane e sehlōhō haholo, hobane Bosaetaneng ke

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khahlanong le sohle seo Molimo a emetseng sona, sohle seo re se
fumanang se le setle, sohle se molemo, sohle seo re se hlalosang

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e le se nang le khotso, se hlollang, se ratehang, sohle seo
re se nkang kapa re utloang e le se halalelang kapa sa leholimo.

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Ha o e phethola hlooho, o fumana
sehlōhō, pefo, timetso, esita le ho seha-seha.

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Sena ha se amohelehe ebile ha se
utlwisisehe ho rona re le batho ba tshepahalang.

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U ka bona sena hape filiming ea ka ea morao-rao,
moo Kereke ea Satane ea Switzerland e bontšang

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litlōlo tsena tsa molao pepenene kaneleng ea eona.

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Ho batla ho sa mamellehe. Joale potso e kholo ke
hore: na ehlile re tlameha ho sebetsana le sena?

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Seo ha se hotle bakeng sa maikutlo a rona, se re
theola haholo, re tlameha ho tsepamisa maikutlo leseling.

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E, e, re leseli, ke 'nete, 'me leseli ke
ho putlama ha litlōlo tsena tsa sehlōhō.

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Empa haeba re sa tobane le mofuta oa batho ba okametseng lefatše
lena – joalokaha re pakile kajeno, joalokaha Papa a pakile –

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haeba re sa lumelle bobe bona bo tšabehang bo maemong a
phahameng-phahameng a boetapele ba lefatše hore bo re ame,

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joale re tla tsoelapele ho tšaba mafu a bona a seoa, pherekano
ea bona ea tlelaemete, le lintoa tsa bona tse qholotsoeng.

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Re bala likoranta tsa bona tsa mashano, re tla ema feela re sa
tsebe hore na re ka etsa'ng ha ba ntse ba senya

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tikoloho ea rona le ho feta, ha ba ntse ba utsoa naha le
mehloli ea eona, ha ba ntse ba hapa linaha tse futsanehileng.

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Re shebella lifilimi tsa bona, re mamela 'mino oa bona –
"Trallalla, Didelidei" – re buisana hore na ente ea mRNA e molemo

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kapa e mpe, hore na li-chemtrail li teng kapa che, hore na
letsatsi le lokela ho fifatsoa kapa che, hore

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na li-antenna tse kae tsa 5G le lisathelaete
tsa Starlink li lokela ho lahleloa sepakapakeng.

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Re shebella ha liroboto tse likete-kete tse bōpehileng
joaloka batho li lokolloa Lefatšeng le kamoo re tlang ho

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nkeloa sebaka ke Bohlale bona ba Maiketsetso, jj., jj.

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Empa ke feela ha re fihletse hloohong ea leqhubu la maoto a
robeli 'me batho bohle ba utloisisa hore na ke batho ba hlanyang

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ba re busang, hore na ke batho ba mofuta ofe le hore na mesebetsi
ea bona ke eng, maikutlo a bona ke afe le hore na Botemona ba

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Satane bo bolela'ng motheong oa bona, ke
hona feela re tla itokolla meqhagong ena,

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lefatšeng ka bophara, joalokaha Papa a boletse.

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Ebe kaofela ha rona re tla ema. Ebe re tla e bonesetsa
mmoho mme re fedise bohlanya bona, hobane lesedi le matla

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ho feta lefifi mme hobane Modimo o matla ho feta Satane.

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Ke ka lebaka leo jwale ke ratang ho qala ka ho fetisetsa ho
bahlatsipa ba babedi ba Bobu-satane ba ileng

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ba pholoha tlhekefetso ya ditokomane tsa
satane le tlhekefetso ena e nyonyehang ya satane.

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Kamora moo, ke tla fetisetsa ho ditsebi, ho dipaki
tsa taba e tshwanang, tse tla re senolela boholo

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ba se patileng sena – ho fihlela le sesoleng, jj.

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Mme re tlameha ho sheba moo ho
utlwisisa se etsahalang lefatsheng la rona.

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Ha ho litšoantšo tse bonts'oang, empa re tla
tlameha ho tobana le taba ena: Bofeita bo bolela'ng?

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Empa re tla boela re bontshe ditharollo, seo e
mong le e mong wa rona a ka se etsang ho emisa sena!

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Mme nka re haeba motho a hlile a sa kgone ho e
mamella, a ka dula ka thoko nakwana kapa a ikwaela

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ditsebe ha ho hlokahala, haeba ho ba matla haholo.

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Empa ha re na ho kena ka botebo haholo, seo nka u bolella sona.
Leha ho le joalo, re hloka ho bua ka hona. Re tlameha ho hopola

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hore batho bana ba ile ba tlameha ho feta ho
seo rona re ka se hlalosang feela ka

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bokhutšoanyane ka lipolelo tse peli kapa tse tharo.

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Ka hona, ke kgothaletsa hore re tobane le sena hona jwale
mme re se shebe! Ke hona feela moo re tla kgona ho etsa

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diqeto tse nepahetseng. Jwale re fetela ho Sandra Rasch.

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O hlahile lelapeng la Basatane mme o bua ka maiphihlelo a hae,
mohlala: "Ba maemong a phahameng ka ho fetisisa ba Freemasons ka

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ho hlaka ke Basatane, mme molimo wa bona e ne e le
molimo o motsho ya neng a kene bokahohleng ba rona

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ho bo fifatsa le ho nka tsohle." Se ke sa bua hape.

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Sandra Rasch ke motho ea pholohileng tlhekefetso
ea litšebetso tsa boselamose ho tsoa Jeremane.

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Eena le khaitseli ea hae Antje ba holetse lelapeng la bosatane.

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Ba ile ba rekisetswa batho ba nang le bokhoba ba ho
hlekefetsa bana mme ba hlekefetswa hampe haholo ha e sa le bana.

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Sandra le khaitseli ea hae ba ile ba qobelloa
ho nka karolo meketeng e mengata ea bosatane.

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Ho ile ha etsahala mehlabelo le ho ja batho.

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Likhaitseli tse peli li ile tsa arohanngoa
ka morero, hoo li ileng tsa khaola likamano.

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Filiming ea Liz Wieskerstrauch "Höllenleben" (Bophelo Liheleng),
e thehiloeng liphuputsong tsa Guido Grandt,

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Sandra le Antje ka boikemelo le ntle le ho buisana
ba paka ka litšebeletso tse tšoanang ka botlalo.

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Pele, ba ne ba qetile dilemo tse leshome ba sa buisane.

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Phihlelo eo ba e phetang ka botlalo e mabapi
le moetlo oa tsoalo o neng o akarelletsa

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Antje, oo ka mor'a oona ngoana a ileng a bolaoa.

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Filimi "Höllenleben – Der Kampf der Opfer: Ritueller Missbrauch
in Deutschland" (Bophelo ba Lihele – Ntoa ea

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Bahlaseluoa: Tlhekefetso ea Litšebeletso tsa
Bofofu Jeremane) e ile ea hasoa ho ARD ka 2003.

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Ho eona, bahlaseluoa ba tlaleha
tlhekefetso ea litokomane tsa bosatane.

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Ba bolela mabitso a libaka le a baetsi ba
tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa boipolelo.

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Leha ho le jwalo, filimi ha e a ka ya tswela morao
ka moferefere o moholo mecheng ya phatlalatso, mme

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mapolesa a kwala dipatlisiso kamora dilemo tse mmalwa.

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Ha ho motho ea ileng a ikarabella bakeng sa
liketso tsena tse mpe, re se re sa bue ka ho ahloleloa.

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Ho hlakile hore ho ne ho se na takatso ea ho
fuputsa le ho qosa litlōlo tsena tsa molao tse tšabehang.

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Ho tloha ka nako eo, filimi e tlositsoe
laeboraring ea mecha ea phatlalatso ea ARD, 'me

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joale e fumaneha feela liak'haontong tsa lekunutu.

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Boralitaba ba sechaba ba ikhutilitse morao ho pepesa
tlhekefetso ea litšebeletso tsa bosatane, esita le ho soma

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bahlaseluoa, joalo ka Böhmermann oa ZDF kapa Rehmann oa SRF.

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Sandra Rasch hona joale ke setsebi sa ho fana ka tšehetso ea
kalafo ho batho ba bileng le tlhekefetso ea litokelo kapa likotsi

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tse ling tse mpe haholo tse kang tlhekefetso ea
thobalano ho bana, bokhoba ba thobalano bo qobelloang,

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taolo ea kelello, tlhekefetso, peto le tlhokomoloho.

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Ba anngoeng ba ka etela sebaka sa marang-rang sa
raschheilen.de ho sebetsana le maiphihlelo a bona a

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bohloko le ho dumella lesedi la bona la ka hare ho kganya.

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O ngotse buka mabapi le maiphihlelo a hae e nang le
sehlooho se reng: "Pele o inehela: Ho hlola Tšabo e

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kholo, Tlhekefetso ea litšebeletso le Taolo ea Kelello."

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Ke bona Sandra mona, na oa re utloa? . Ho
lokile haholo. E, lumela Sandra ea ratehang.

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Ke tlotla ho rona ho kgona ho bua le
lona mona kajeno kopanong ya bo22 ya AZK!

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E, dumela Lois. Ke tlotla e kgolo ho ba mona le wena.
Ke leboha haholo-holo ho ba karolo ya ketsahalo ena.

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Kea leboha haholo. E, filiming ea "Höllenleben" (Bophelo
Liheleng), khaitseli ea hau Antje o ne a totobalitsoe haholo.

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Empa le wena o tswetswe ka hara leloko lena la bosatane.

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U itemohetse eng? U ka re bolella eng ka Bobositara maemong ana?

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Hantle, filimi ena ehlile e bontsha kamoo kamano
ya rona e neng e le kateng ha re ne re sa le bana.

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Empa seo nka ratang ho se hlakisa ke hore na bophelo bo
jwang sehlopheng se jwalo sa bosatane, hobane ke

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hlokometse hore batho ba bangata haholo ha ba na lesedi ka hona.

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Mme ruri ho jwalo. O phela ka maemo a mabedi. Ka lehlakoreng le
leng, ho na le boemo ba tlhekefetso, mme

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ka le leng, bana ba tlalehilweng ba phela
bophelo ba letsatsi le letsatsi jwaloka nna.

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Le bophelong ba letsatsi le letsatsi: o dula o tshabile. Ke boemo
bo sa feleng ba ho ba malala-a-laotswe,

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hobane o dula o tlameha ho ela hloko hore na o
nahana jwang, o ikutlwa jwang, le seo o se buang.

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Ba shebella maikutlo a hao hape ba leka ho
bona hore na o itshwara ka mokgwa o loketseng.

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Ba laola setsoalle, likamano, hore na o joang
sekolong, le hore na o na le mang sekolong.

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Ba laola tsohle, e, hoo e ka bang phefumoloho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe.

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Mme haeba o kheloha, mohlala, haeba o na le
setswalle mme se ba haufi haholo, se tla arohana.

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Ha ho phonyoho le hanyenyane. Ba ka hloohong, ba shebile
mehopolo, maikutlo, maikutlo a mahlo, botho boo u leng

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bona kaofela, mme ba hlokomela ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe.

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Mme, sa bohlokwa, bana ke thepa ya mokgatlo ona wa
sephiri ka ho feletseng. Ba tshwana le ba tshwailweng.

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Mme o ile wa itemohela eng moo ka hare
ho sehlopha seo, ka tsela e sebetsang?

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Maiphihlelo a ka – ha e le hantle, ena ke lekgetlo
la pele ho nna, ho bua ka nna kannete, hobane pele

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ke ne ke dula ke tjhesehela feela ho bua ka phodiso.

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Empa ke nahana hore joale nka e etsa. Kahoo, ke ne ke isoa
hole bosiu bo bong le bo bong, ke fuoa meriana. Hantle-ntle. Ke

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ne ke koahetsoe hlooho ka mekotla, eaba ke isoa hole ka koloi.

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Ke ile ka fuoa li-hormone ke sa le monyenyane.
Kahoo ha kea ka ka feta bocha bo tloaelehileng, empa

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ke ile ka fuoa li-hormone 'me ka koaheloa ka boomo.

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Li ile tsa ntlosoa ka mekhahlelo e fapaneng. Kea tseba hore
ke ne ke nkile e 'ngoe hole haholo, e neng e ka phela le eona.

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Mme e mong a ntshuwa ka nna mme – ke ne ke ntse ke paqame moo ke
tswa madi – letlalo la ngwana enwa la huleha ka pela mahlo a ka.

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Ho nkukile dilemo tse ngata-ngata hore ka
tsela e itseng ke ithute ho phela le yona.

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Ebe hape ho na le taba ea bana bana ba
sirelelitsoeng le ba sa sireletsoang.

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Batho ba dula ba re, "Bana bana bohle ba tswa kae?"

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Empa hantle-ntle ka lebaka la mekhoa
ena e reriloeng le e elelloang ea ho ima.

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Mme palo e kgolo haholo ya bana – ka nnete makgolo
a dikete – ba phela ka diphaposing tse nyane, ka

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meqomong, ka meqoteng, mme ba hlokomelwa kae kae.

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Kahoo le nna ka linako tse ling ke ne ke tlameha ho hlokomela
bana, ho ba thusa hore ba phele ka tsela e itseng,

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mme ba hlekefeloa, ba nkuoa le ho sebelisoa ho
fihlela ka tsela e itseng ho se letho le sa sebetseng.

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Ebe ba etswa sehlabelo mme ditho tsa bona tsa mmele di a
rekiswa, kapa – ha ke na kgopolo ya hore na ba etsang ka

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tsona kaofela. Kahoo ruri ba sebedisa ntho e nngwe le e nngwe.

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Le ho ntšoa ha adrenochrome boemong bona bo bohloko haholo – ke
hore, ho nka mali ana – tlhahiso ena ea adrenochrome le boemo

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bona bo phahameng bo sa feleng ba khatello ea maikutlo, ho
imela 'mele haholo. 'Mele o ke ke oa mamella sena nako e telele.

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Se seng se ileng sa etsahalla ka: Ba
boetse ba kenya bana ka mokhoa oa boitlamo.

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Ka nako e 'ngoe ke ile ka beoa ka lebitleng,
'me ba bile ba qala ho cheka mobu holim'a ka.

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Kahoo ngoana a le mong o patiloe ka lebitleng mme ba
bang ba tlameha ho mamela sehlopha sa borapeli ka ho

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pata ngoana e mong a ntse a phela. E, ke mofuta oa keno .

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Mme hape e ne e le nna ya neng a le botlaseng ba lebitla,
mme ka huloa kantle ka nako e lekaneng hore ke pholohe.

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Ha ke se ke holile mme ke ne ke se ke sa lokela
thobalano ea bana, ke ile ka rekisetsoa botekatse.

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Ke ile ka koetlisetsoa ho tantša ka
pel'a banna, ebe bona ba ikhethela.

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Mme bakeng sa ho koetlisoa, ke ile ka aparoa seaparo
se akaretsang 'mele kaofela se nang le linale ka hare.

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Mme ha ke ne ke sa ikemisetsa ka ho
lekana, ke ile ka qobelleha ho apara sutu.

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Kahoo o ka nahana hore motsamao o
mong le o mong o bohloko haholo.

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Ntlha e 'ngoe ke hore ho na le bana ba bangata haholo-holo-holo
ba hlokofalitsoeng, e le hore le bona bana ba

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fetoloe bafeteletsi. Ho na le tloaelo ea kelello ea hore
bana ba tlameha ho khetha hore na ke mang ea shoeleng.

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Ba tlameha ho etsa qeto, ba dula ba ikutlwa eka ba etsa qeto e
fosahetseng, eka ke bona ba molato kamehla

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mme ba dula ba etsa phoso, empa hape ba
utlwa eka ha ba ka ke ba pholosa mang kapa mang.

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Ha ke ne ke le monyenyane – ke ne ke le lilemo li ka bang
hlano kapa tse tšeletseng – le 'na ke ile ka etsoa moetsi oa

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bobe 'me ka tlameha ho seha 'mele o neng o ntse o futhumetse.

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Eaba letsoho la ka le tataisetswa ho ntsha pelo. Ba
etsa sena ho batho ba batlang ba le bangata ba leng teng.

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E, ke utloile seo khafetsa!

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E, hantle-ntle. Mme moetlo o mong wa bohlokwa
haholo ke hore ba tshwara lechato la bosatane

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le bana ba banyenyane – ba dilemo tse tharo.

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E, le nna ke kile ka ba le seo. Ba hlile ba o apesa
moaparo o motsho wa lenyalo le lesira ebe ba o nyadisa – mme

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ebe, ehlile, ho fetoha mokete wa thobalano ya bohlanya. Hmm.

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E, hantle-ntle. Ka nako e 'ngoe ke ile ka isoa Belgium, 'me ho ne
ho tšoana le nyeoeng ea Dutroux, moo bana ba emang likamoreng tse

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lefifi – tse se nang lifensetere, lefifing, ba hlokomolohiloe
ka ho feletseng – ho fihlela ba nkoa ebe ba nkoa, ba sebelisoa.

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Mme seo se ne se le sehloho haholo. Ke hopola ka nako e 'ngoe ha
ke se ke le motho e moholo, ke ile ka tlameha ho

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khanna ho pholletsa le Belgium. Ka re, "Feela litseleng
tse kholo le moo ke ka bonang mabone a seterateng."

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Re ne re sa lokela ho ea moo le ka mohla, hobane
Belgium e ne e le sehlōhō ka tsela e feteletseng, 'me

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seo se ne se fihla hantle maemong a phahameng a borena.

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Kahoo seo se lula se ya ho ya hodimo ka ho fetisisa.
Ho na le tatellano ya maemo le mekgahlelo e mengata.

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Mme tlhekefetso ena e kgolo ke feela boemo bo tlase, empa
dintho tse ding le tsona di simoloha hodimo mme di laolwa

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ho tswa hodimo, hobane ho bona e le feela taba ya moruo.

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Na le uena u hlokometse hore ke ba maemong a phahameng moo?

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E.

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Ho lokile.

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E mabapi le moea.

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Ba etsang jwalo ha ba na moya kapa ba na le moya o motsho.

20:27.996 --> 20:32.750
Hangata ke temoho feela mme ba batla feela
ho hapa moya, ho o fetola kapa ho o

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bolaya. Ao, e. Hobane ke leseli la Lefatshe lena.

20:36.382 --> 20:41.472
E, kea leboha haholo ka ho bua pepenene, Sandra, ka ho
bua ka taba ena le ho e arolelana le rona. Ha ho

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bonolo, joalokaha re tseba ho tsoa ho bahlaseluoa ba bang.

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Ke mohato oa bohlokoa ho bona ho buisana ka
liphihlelo tsena tse bohloko. Seo se tšabeha.

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Rea leboha ka ho arolelana sena le rona – ka lekgetlo
la pele mona kopanong ya bo22 ya AZK – ka dintlha

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tseo lefatshe le eso di tsebe. E ntshosa nako le nako.

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Mokgwa ona wa monahano wa bosatane o mpe ka
ho teba, jwalo ka ha o sa tswa hlalosa hape.

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Empa motho a ka boela a re tlhokomeliso ka tlhekefetso ea
litšebeletso tsa bosatane e ntse e hola har'a sechaba le

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hore litlōlo tsena tsa sehlōhō li ntse li tsebahala
haholoanyane hobane linyeoe tse ngata li ntse li pepeseha.

21:18.609 --> 21:26.652
Empa jwale ho na le seo ho thweng ke 'mmueledi' wa
bahlaselwa ba dikgoka tsa ditlwaelo, mme ke ramolao Ellen Engel.

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O bua ka lentsoe le phahameng phatlalatsa.

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Leha ho le jwalo, o bolela hore motho a ke ke
a dumela tsohle tseo bahlaselwa ba di buang,

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haholoholo ha ho tluwa tabeng ya polao ya masea.

21:35.919 --> 21:39.692
Ha a ka a fumana dipampiri tsa ho tsebisa ka
bana ba lahlehileng dibakeng tseo bahlaselwa

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ba neng ba boletse hore ba ba bone ho tsona.

21:41.984 --> 21:50.052
Kapa, ho ka be ho se na moo ho boletsweng koranteng
hore bana ba nyametse, ka hoo seo se ke ke sa ba nnete.

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Kahoo, e le 'muelli oa bahlaseluoa, o hlahisa
bahlaseluoa eka ha ba tšepahale. U reng ka seo?

21:58.107 --> 22:07.679
Ha ho kgolwehe, hobane ho na le makgolo a dikete a bana ba sa
ngodiswang ho hang – bao ho se nang motho ya tsebang letho ka

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bona, ba phelang ka ho ipata, ba phelang mahlomoleng, ba sa
boneng lesedi la letsatsi le ka mohla – ba

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phediswang ka bothata feela mme ba hlokofatswa ho isa
lefung... – Ha ke batle ho e bua – mme ba hlokofatswa.

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Mme ha ho na ya elellwang. Taba ena e
fihla ho ba maemong a hodimo-dimo, mme ba na le

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mekgwa e metle ka ho fetisisa ya ho pata.

22:33.582 --> 22:40.409
Ka nako eo, re ne re na le khomishene e khethehileng
. Ba neng ba re lumela ba ile ba tlosoa hang-hang.

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E mong oa bona o ne a tšeha khafetsa ha ke ntse ke botsisisoa. Ba
ntse ba leka ka boomo ho pata taba ena. Batho ba

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bangata ba bua ka Qhobosheane ea Wewelsburg. E, le 'na
ke ne ke le teng. Empa ho thoe ha ba fumane letho moo.

22:52.694 --> 22:56.447
Ho na le bahlwekisi ba dibaka tsa
botlokotsebe moo, mme haeba lepolesa le le teng mme le

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re, "Ha re so fumane letho" – ho felela moo.

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Kahoo ntlha ke hore bana ke letlotlo le leholo ho feta tsohle.

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Mabapi le litho tsa 'mele – ba nka mefuta ea
liphio ho etsa litlolo, lihlahisoa tsa botle,

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le lintho tse ling tse ngata tsa mefuta eohle.

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Bohohi ba thobalano ke bothata bo boholo ho feta tsohle.
E, ba rekisoa le ho rekisoa, 'me tsohle li etsahala ka

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sephiring; ke mokhatlo o ikemetseng o tlas'a leano la sechaba.

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Ao, e, kea leboha ka ditlhaloso.

23:34.160 --> 23:38.797
Ke hlalositse kaofela liketsahalo tse 1,024 tsa
batho ba pholohileng lifiliming tse 'ne tsa bopaki tse

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mabapi le tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bohloriso.

23:41.717 --> 23:46.287
Mme ditlaleho tse tshwanang di ntse di tswela pele ho fihla
kgafetsa-kgafetsa di tswa dinaheng tse ngata tse fapaneng.

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Ba hlokofaditsweng ba buang dipuo tse fapaneng haholo.

23:49.527 --> 23:54.971
Empa seo ditlaleho kaofela di dumellanang ka sona ka
ho fetisisa ke ntlha ya hore ho na le batho ba

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maemong a hodimo ba nang le dikamano tse matla ba amehang.

23:58.738 --> 24:03.165
Ellen Engel le eena ha a dumellane le dipolelo
tsena, hobane o re ha ho tlolo ya molao e ka

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phethahalang hoo e sa tle e tsejwe ke setjhaba.

24:06.302 --> 24:13.159
Joaloka paki ka mahlo, u reng ka sena? Na
le uena u bone batho ba maemo a phahameng?

24:13.159 --> 24:17.725
E, Belgium. Ke moo ke boneng hore e fihla holimo-limo.

24:17.725 --> 24:22.988
Mme ke na le bareki ba bang ba bileng
ba bone batho ba maemong a phahameng.

24:22.988 --> 24:31.685
Ntlha ke hore marangrang ana – a kenyeletsang dingaka, bafepedi,
babueledi, mapolesa, baahlodi, boradipolotiki, basebeletsi ba

24:31.685 --> 24:38.381
mmuso, tsohle – a na le meralo ya motheo e
rarahaneng hoo a sebetsang jwaloka marangrang a bobedi

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ka tlasa meralo ya rona e tlwaelehileng ya motheo.

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Mme ha ho na ya tsebang seo. Ba kopane haholo,
ba pata ditaba tsa e mong ho e mong hantle hoo

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motho ya tlwaelehileng a neng a ke ke a hlokomela.

24:48.931 --> 24:58.450
Kahoo Ellen Engel ha a shebile moo. Ke bothoto
ho dumela hore mang kapa mang a ka be a bone seo.

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Liofisi tsa boiketlo ba bacha li fetisetsa linyeoe ho batho ba
hlekefetsang bana. Ka nako eo, khaitseli ea ka e

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ile ofising ea boiketlo ba bacha mme ea ba bolella
se etsahetseng. Ha ho letho le ileng la etsahala.

25:05.251 --> 25:15.311
Kobo ena ea khutso eo mohlaseluoa e mong le e mong a e fumanang.
E keneletse ka botebo, e le mokhoa oa motheo oa ho phela.

25:15.311 --> 25:20.650
Empa sechaba kaofela se reretsoe ho hatella le ho qoba.

25:20.650 --> 25:26.429
Matsatsing ana, ha motho ea nang le mathata a bophelo bo botle ba
kelello a ea tleliniking, ha a sebetse

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mathata a hae; o bolelloa, "Ao, u se ke oa
kenella haholo, hobane u tla ikutloa hampe hape."

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Ho qoba ho ata hohle.

25:34.245 --> 25:40.503
Kahoo ho hlakile hore ha ba batle ho shebisisa taba ena, hore
ba re: "Ao che, ke nahana feela, ha se nnete, tsohle li lokile."

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Sena se fetohile mokhoa o kenyelelitsoeng
sechabeng, 'me se matlafalitse haholo lilemong tsa

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morao tjena le ka lebaka la seoa sa coronavirus.

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Ba se ba lekile sena ho bana ba mekhatlong
ena ea sephiri ka lilemo tse ngata-ngata, 'me

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joale ba se ba se kenya tšebetsong sechabeng.

25:55.944 --> 25:57.455
E.

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Eo e ne e le motheo oa se etsahalang hohle hona joale.

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Mme jwale o a tseba hore na e sebetsa jwang.
Bobegadikgang ke ho thetsa batho ka bongata.

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Ee, se etsahalang moo ke taba e 'ngoe ka ho feletseng.

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Ee, kea leboha haholo ka tlhaloso eo, Sandra ea ratehang.

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Ke thabela.

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Ke o lakaletsa matla a maholo le mahlohonolo
bakeng sa mosebetsi wa hao wa kalafo le bahlaselwa.

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E, kea leboha.

26:27.465 --> 26:30.902
Sala hantle Sandra, sala hantle, kea leboha!

26:34.960 --> 26:42.157
Hona joale re ka rata ho fetisetsa ho Chantal Frei.

26:42.157 --> 26:45.923
O boetse a bua haholo ka maqhama ana a maemo a hodimo.

26:45.923 --> 26:52.192
Hape ke motho ya pholohileng tlhekefetso ya
ditlwaelo tsa bohlola. Nka re, "Kgaola sekotwana!"

26:52.192 --> 26:56.530
Chantal Frei ke Mo-Switzerland mme ke
mohlodi dikgokgontshong tsa ditokoto.

26:56.530 --> 27:03.598
Ho bohlokwa haholo ho yena ho phahamisa tlhokomediso ka
dikgoka tsa mekete ya bosatane, e le hore taba ena e

27:03.598 --> 27:10.385
utlwiwe ke setjhaba mme bana ba rona ba ka sireletswa ho yona.

27:10.385 --> 27:17.150
Chantal o ile a koeteloa e sa le ngoana e monyenyane
mme a wela matsohong a sehlopha se sehlōhō sa bosatane.

27:17.150 --> 27:22.597
Mona o ile a hlahelwa ke tlhekefetso ya letsatsi le letsatsi ya
mmele, kelello le tsa thobalano e le karolo ya

27:22.597 --> 27:28.334
mekgabiso. Ntate wa hae wa sehlopha sa bodumedi ba
bobe e ne e le mosatane ya phelang tumelo ya hae.

27:28.334 --> 27:32.811
Ho ne ho etsoa sehlabelo sa bana ka
har'a sehlopha sa bolumeli ba Satane.

27:32.811 --> 27:38.527
Ho tloha bonyenyaneng, o ile a hlekefletsoa e le
lekgoba la thobalano ke lihlopha tse fapaneng.

27:38.527 --> 27:45.682
Ha a le dilemo tse tsheletseng feela, Balatedi ba Satane ba
ile ba etsa qeto ya ho mo kwetlisa hore e be "Mme wa Lefifi" .

27:45.682 --> 27:50.712
Sena se ne se bolela hore o ne a tlameha ho hlokomela
bana ba bang ka har'a sehlopha seo se sa tloaelehang sa

27:50.712 --> 27:54.046
bolumeli le ho ba lokisetsa tlhekefetso e eketsehileng.

27:54.046 --> 27:58.853
O ile a tlameha ho nka karolo meketeng
e se nang palo e sehlōhō le litabong.

27:58.853 --> 28:05.420
Ka nako e telele, o ne a sa tsebe letho ka lehlakore le lefifi la
bophelo ba hae, kaha o ne a tšoeroe ke lefu la ho ba

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le botho bo arohaneng ka lebaka la tlhokofatso. Ha a
le lilemo li 30, o ile a putlama kelellong le 'meleng.

28:12.132 --> 28:17.093
Eaba mehopolo ea liphihlelo tsa hae tse
tšabehang e qala ho mo khahlamela butle-butle.

28:17.093 --> 28:21.919
Kamora dilemo tse ngata, qetellong o ile
a kgona ho tloha mokgatlong oo o kotsi mme

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a qala ho bua ka seo a fetileng ho sona.

28:24.940 --> 28:31.394
Kajeno, Chantal o fana ka lipuisano
mme o etsa pale ea hae hore e tsebahale.

28:31.394 --> 28:37.707
O bolela mabitso a baetsadibe ba bangata ba neng ba le teng nakong
ya meketjana kapa ba neng ba nka karolo ho yona ka mafolofolo.

28:37.707 --> 28:45.028
Ho latela litlhaloso tsa hae, tsena li kenyeletsa batho ba
bangata ba tummeng joalo ka Mofumahali Elizabeth II, Morena

28:45.028 --> 28:49.542
Felipe oa Spain, Gérard Depardieu, Tom Cruise le Bill Clinton.

28:49.542 --> 28:55.703
O ngotse libuka tse peli ka maiphihlelo a hae, tse
nang le lihlooho tse reng "Ke bua!" le "Ke botsa".

28:55.703 --> 29:02.469
Ka 2023, o ile a qala morero
"Mantswe a 50 a Tlhekefetso ya Ditlwaelo".

29:02.469 --> 29:08.686
Webosaeteng ea 50voices.org, baphonyohi ba 50 ba
hlalosa liphihlelo tsa bona tsa botho ka botlalo

29:08.686 --> 29:13.390
mabapi le tlhekefetso ea litokomane tsa bosatane.

29:18.096 --> 29:25.892
E, ke nahana hore re hokahane. Dumela, Chantal ea
ratehang, re thabile haholo hore ebe u na le rona kajeno.

29:25.892 --> 29:34.936
Lumela, Lois ea ratehang, kea leboha haholo ka memo ena. Ke tlotla
e kholo ho 'na ho ba mona le lona kajeno le ho bua ka sena.

29:34.936 --> 29:37.312
Ho babatseha, kea leboha.

29:37.312 --> 29:43.834
Chantal ea ratehang, ha batho ba utloa hore
'mehopolo' ea maiphihlelo a mabe hakana e khutla

29:43.834 --> 29:47.900
butle-butle feela, hangata ba mpa ba sa hlokomele:

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Hoo ha ho ka ke ha ba nnete! Lintho tse mpe
hakana, ua tseba hore na hoo ho etsahetse neng.

29:54.163 --> 29:58.663
U reng ho batho bana?

29:58.663 --> 30:07.144
E, ke ntho eo ke e utloang khafetsa. Empa
ke tlameha ho bolela hore hoo ho fosahetse.

30:07.144 --> 30:12.034
Hobane o "lebala" liketsahalo tse mpe
haholo. – Kahoo o li "lebala", o li lebala

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bophelong ba letsatsi le letsatsi, ha re ka rialo.

30:15.177 --> 30:16.868
Hobaneng ho le jwalo?

30:16.868 --> 30:24.591
Kahoo, nka rata ho arolelana le lona ntho eo
bohle re kileng ra e bona kapa ra utloa ka eona.

30:24.591 --> 30:29.280
Kahoo, ha re re ke motho ea
bileng le kotsi e mpe haholo ea koloi.

30:29.280 --> 30:38.813
Hangata – eseng kamehla, empa hangata – nakong eo kotsi ena e
etsahalang ka eona, motho enoa o ikarola

30:38.813 --> 30:48.627
ketsahalong ena – ke hore, boemong bona – hobane e mpe
haholo hoo a sitoang ho e utloisisa ka nako eo.

30:48.627 --> 30:50.753
'Dissociated' e bolela'ng?

30:50.753 --> 30:51.634
U itseng?

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'Dissociated' e bolela'ng?

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Kahoo seo se bolela hore ketsahalo e etsahalang hona
joale e etsahala joalokaha eka ke kantle ho motho.

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Kahoo ha o kgone ho e utlwisisa ka boyo, ha o
kgone ho e sebetsana ka nako eo. Ha o utlwisise se

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etsahalang, empa se ntse se etsahala leha ho le jwalo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ts'ebetso ena e bitsoang "ho arola".

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Mme ha e le hantle ke tshebetso ya tlhaho, mme nka ba ka re ke
leqheka la ho phela le keneletseng ho rona batho, ho batho bohle.

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Empa ha e nyamele feela; e fetoha karolo ea se
tsejoang e le mohopolo o tšosang. Mohopolo o tšosang o

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thehoa ha ho etsahala lintho tse mpe haholo, tse tšosang.

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Mme ke nako e telele kamora moo feela – hangata matsatsi, ka
dinako tse ding dikgwedi, kapa tabeng ya ka, dilemo kamora moo –

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ha e hlaha hape kelellong, ke hore, ha lebaka la ho lebala le
neng le e potapotile – ka mantswe a mang, ho lahlehelwa

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ke mehopolo – le qala ho phatloha butle-butle mme
mehopolo e kgutla ka bonya, ke moo e kgutlelang kelellong.

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Mme jwale o na le bokgoni kapa
sebaka sa ho sebetsa ho yona butle-butle.

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Mme o boela o e hopola, leha ho se ho fetile dilemo.

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Mme ka tshohanyetso dintlha tsohle le
ntho tsohle di a kgutla, o hopola tsohle?

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E, e hlaha. Kahoo o tlameha ho e nahana eka ke
seroto, mme mehopolo yohle e mebe, le

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maiphihlelo a bohloko, di feela di lahlelwa ka ho sona.

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Hobane, ha ho tluwa tabeng ya dikgoka tsa mekgwabo – mme
ke sona seo re buang ka sona – ho na le maiphihlelo a

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mangata a tsotehang, mme a mpa a kopanngwa feela kaofela.

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Mme o a tseba, ho tshwana le ho hlatswa diaparo, ka tsela e
itseng kgopolo e le nngwe e hlaha ebe e nngwe,

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mme qalong ha di utlwahale ho hang, kahoo ho
tshwana le ha eka ha ho na khoele e di kopanyang.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ba tshwanang le dikarolwana tse
nyane tsa papadi ya ho kopanya ditshwantsho, tseo

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o ka di kopanyang butle-butle ha nako e ntse e ya.

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Empa karolo ena e le 'ngoe ea papali ea likotoana e hlalositsoe
ka botlalo, leha ho le joalo, u kanna oa

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e-s'o utloisise hore na ho na le eng setšoantšong
sena haeba u e-s'o khone ho kopanya tse ling.

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Ho lokile. E, seo ha se dumelehe ho hang.

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Ebe o bile le maiphihlelo a lintho tse tšabehang hakana 'me ha ho
motho ea o lumelang – hobane feela ho thata ho

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lumeloa hore botho bona bo arotsehang bo teng
kannete, ho hatelloa hona ha mehopolo, le ho lebala hona.

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Empa ho na le litšitiso tse ling, joalo
ka batho ba sa lumeleng hore le pholohile.

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Mme ke yona tlhaho e makatsang ya diketsahalo ka botsona.

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Hoo e ka bang baphonyohi bohle ba tlaleha hore batlōli ba molao
ba ba bolella esita le lifahlehong tsa bona: "Ha ho motho ea

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tla u lumela, seo se utloahala e le bohlanya bo feteletseng."

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Guido Grandt o sa tswa mpolella ka
ketsahalo eo ho yona motho e mong a neng a apere

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jwalo ka Mickey Mouse mme a hlekefetsa ngwana.

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Mme ha ngoana a bua ka taba eo mme a re, "Mickey
Mouse o ntlhontshetse," e le kannete ha ho ya mo

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dumelang, mme molotsana o ntse a tsheha haholo.

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Ee, Chantal, ke tlo o bapallela karolo e
khutšoanyane ea video e buang ka mokhatlo oa "Satanic Panic".

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Ba bua ka wena moo.

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Mme ke mokgatlo ona o reng hore
tlhekefetso ya mekgwabo ya bosatane ha e yo.

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Bahlaseluoa ba batla feela ho eloa hloko 'me
ba iqapela tsohle, kapa ba kholisoa ho

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lumela joalo ke litsebi tsa kelello, joalo-joalo.

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Jwale ha re e mameleng ka bokgutshwane.

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"Chantal Frei – ka bokhutšoanyane: neng kapa neng ha lebitso la
hae le hlaha – ho na le livideo tse ngata tse mo

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bontšang, re bile ra bontša karoloana ea e 'ngoe
ea tsona phatlalatsa ketsahalong e 'ngoe ea rona.

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Kamehla ke fa batho feela temana ena:

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Kahoo o re o ile a hlekefletsoa ka mokhoa oa
litšebetso tsa bosatane Kerekeng e Kholo ea

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Barcelona ke "li-tenor tse tharo" le Peter Alexander.

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Ha ke nahane hore ho na le letho
le leng le ka buuoang ka nyeoe ena.

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Na ho na le ntho e 'ngoe ea bohlokoa haholo?

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Kahoo, Chantal ea ratehang, uena le pale ea
hau le ne le le bohlokoa metsotsoana e 30

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kaofela ho komiti ena, eaba ba e beha pheletsong.

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Ho ke ke ha eba nnete hore "li-tenor tse tharo" le Peter
Alexander ba u peteletse ka tlhekefetso ea thobalano ka mokhoa

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oa litšebetso tsa bohlorisa Kerekeng e Kholo ea Barcelona.

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Sena se re kgutlisetsa tabeng eo re sa
tswa buisana ka yona le Sandra Rasch.

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– Hore bongata bo boholo ba ba pholohileng bo re batho
ba tummeng le ba maemo a phahameng ba kenyelelitsoe, ba

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nang le maqhama a matla machabeng mme baa sireletsana.

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Kahoo Chantal, o na le nako e fetang
metsotsoana e 30 ho bua ho hong ka seo.

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E, hantle, o se o e buile makhetlo a 'maloa
joale. Ha e nahanehe, ha e bonahale e ka etsahala.

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Kahoo ruri sena se feta meeli e tloaelehileng ea
lintho, hoo motho a thatafalloang ho se lumela.

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Mme ke nnete, ha o le ngwana mme o itemohela seo, o
bolelloa kgafetsa-kgafetsa, ho kenngwa ka hloohong:

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Le ha o ka bua ka hona, ha ho na molemo oo o ka o
fumanang, hobane ha ho na motho ea tla u lumela.

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Ehlile ke kobo.

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Kahoo ke hoo e ka bang tšireletso bakeng sa baetsalibe, hape ke e
'ngoe ea libetsa tsa bona tse kholo ka ho fetisisa, hore lintho

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tseo ba li etsang li kholo haholo ebile li tšabeha hoo ho
motho ea tloaelehileng – kapa motho ea phelang bophelo bo

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tloaelehileng feela – ho leng thata haholo le ho nahana ka tsona.

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Ee, empa ho joalo feela. Kahoo, pele ho tsohle, ke hlile ke batla
ho bolela hore ha ke eo, ebile ha ke bue ka liphihlelo tsa ka e

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le hore batho ba bangata kamoo ho ka khonehang ba nkele hlooho.

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Kahoo haeba motho e mong jaaka Bernd Harder a
sa ntshepe, ha ho hlokahale hore a ntshepe.

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Empa ke mona ho hlile ho kgothaletsa batho hore
ba ipotse, ha ba utlwa ntho e jwalo: Ho ne ho tla

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ba jwang haeba e ne e le nnete leha ho le jwalo?

37:27.422 --> 37:36.089
Kannete, kea le tiisetsa, ke tiisetsa bohle ba mametseng le ba
shebeletseng hona joale hore – ha le ka nka

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tsela ena – le tla hlokomela kapele-pele
hore, ka bomalimabe, sena e ntse e le 'nete.

37:43.292 --> 37:45.232
Ka bomalimabe, ka bomalimabe. Hobaneng ka bomalimabe?

37:45.232 --> 37:52.580
Hobane hona joale, motsotsong ona hantle, ha
re ntse re bua, ho na le bana ba phelang sena.

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Mme haeba re sa eme re shebisise taba ena mme re
ntse re ipolella feela hore, "Ao, seo ha se

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kgonehe," jwale bana bana ba tla tswelapele ho e itemohela.

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Mme ke dumela hore ke boikarabelo ba rona, re le setjhaba, ho
shebisisa – mme ke mona ho bua ka sena hobane ke iponetse –

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mme ruri nka thabela ho kgothaletsa bohle hore ba shebisise.

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E, 'me ruri o tla fumana bopaki ba hore sena ke 'nete.

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E, kea leboha, Chantal.

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Na o ka re bolella ka bokgutshwane seo o se fumaneng Barcelona?

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Bernd Harder o e hanne hobane ho bonahala ho sa khonehe.

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E, hantle, Barcelona ho ne ho le tjena – ke nahana, ehlile, hore
batho ba tummeng ba ile ba hira kapa ba mpa ba boloka sebaka

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sa Sagrada Família kaofela , e fumanehang bohareng ba toropo.

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– Mme hoo e ne e le ka la 30 Mmesa, mme la 30 Mmesa ke
letsatsi leo ka lona ho ketekelo letsatsi la tsoalo la

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Satane, mme ho ile ha tshwarwa mokete o moholo haholo.

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Kahoo, ka lehlakoreng le leng, ke letsatsi la tsoalo la
Satane, 'me ka le leng, ke phethelo ea koetliso ea ka eo ho

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thoeng ke ea 'Mè oa Lefifi' – joalokaha re utloile pejana.

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Mme moketeng ona, ke ile ka betoa feela ke batho
ba tummeng – jwalo ka ha Bernd Harder a sa

39:20.625 --> 39:26.415
tswa bua – "di-tenor tse tharo" le Peter Alexander.

39:26.415 --> 39:31.491
"Litenore tse tharo" – ka nako eo, ba ne
ba e-s'o tsejoe e le "litenore tse tharo".

39:31.491 --> 39:36.944
Kahoo le ka nako eo ba ne ba ntse ba etsa
dipontsho kapa dikonsarete tse arohaneng.

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Empa ka nako eo, ho ne ho se ho ntse
ho buiswa hore qetellong ba tla kopana.

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Meketeng e joalo, ke utloile khafetsa seo se tlang ho
etsahala nakong e tlang kapa hore na merero ea bona ke efe.

39:51.058 --> 39:57.089
Kahoo ka boraro ba bona ba ne ba le
teng, mme ba kopana hamorao feela.

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Mme ho jwalo le dibakeng tseo ho memwang batho ba
tummeng, bao e ka bang ba sa tume hakaalo ka nako eo.

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Empa ke hantle ka lebaka la ho nka karolo ha
bona meketeng e joalo hore ba tšepisitsoe hore

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ka mor'a moo ba tla fumana mosebetsi oa bona.

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Mme ke nahana hore ke sona se etsahetseng le ka
"The Three Tenors", hobane ke dumela hore ba ile

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ba tuma dilemo tse pedi kapa tse tharo hamorao.

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Ha ho kgolwehe.

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E, ho ka be ho batlile ho se khonehe ho lumela
haeba e ne e se ka lebaka la hore makholo, 'me joale

40:33.845 --> 40:37.576
esita le likete, ba ntse ba bua hantle se tšoanang.

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Jwalokaha ke boletse, ke sa tswa sebetsana le
ditlaleho tse 1,024 tse tswang ho baphonyohi

40:42.488 --> 40:45.794
ditokomaneng tsa ka – mme ho tshabeha ka ho fetisisa.

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Ka 2022, ho bile le ditlaleho tsa bahlaselwa tse 27, ka 2023 ho
ne ho se ho bile le ditlaleho tse 111 tse tswang

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ho baphonyohi, ka 2024 ho bile le tse 247, mme
selemong sena ho bile le ditlaleho tse ntjha tse 640.

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Hona ke mola o kobehileng o ntseng o hola ka lebelo le ntseng le
eketseha, mme likhobo tsena ha li bontshe sesupo sa ho kokobela.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ntate a bileng le mohopolo ona o
babatsehang oa Vetopedia, hore baphonyohi ba tlhekefetso ea

41:10.524 --> 41:13.947
litšebetso tsa bohloriso ba ka ingolisa ho Vetopedia.

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E tshwana le Wikipedia, empa ke
encyclopaedia ya mahala ya mantswe a sa dumellaneng.

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Kahoo moo o ka bokella litlaleho tsena kaofela
polokelong e kholo ea machaba ea tlhahisoleseling hape oa li

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bontša. Mme sethala sena se se se fumaneha ka lipuo tse 21.

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Chantal, ke bone hore o se o ingodisitse.

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Ke nahana hore hoo ho bohlale haholo.

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Na o ka rata ho re bolella ka bokgutshwane, le ba
pholohileng ba bang, hore na ho ingodisa jwang, kapa

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mohlomong o ka rata ho re bontsha se ngodisitsweng sa hao?

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E, nka thabela.

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Tlas'a "Tlhekefetso ea litšebeletso", ho na
le litlaleho tse khutšoanyane tsa lipaki.

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O ka tobetsa ho "Rekota litlaleho tsa lipaki"
k'honeng e kaholimo ka ho le letona, ebe ho na

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le lipotso tse fapaneng tseo o ka li arabelang.

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Taba ea pele, kakaretso e khuts'oane ea pale ea bophelo ba hae,
empa hape le libaka tsa litlōlo tsa molao moo sena se ileng

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sa etsahala teng, le linaha moo baetsalibe ba ileng ba bonoa
teng – haeba u lakatsa ho kenyelletsa tlhahisoleseling ena.

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Ke nahana hore ke mohopolo o babatsehang,
mme ruri nka thabela ho khothaletsa

42:23.808 --> 42:28.260
baphonyohi bohle ba nang le sebete ho ngola ho hong.

42:28.260 --> 42:31.080
U ka boela oa kenela sena ntle le hore ho tsejoe hore ke uena.

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Ha e le hantle ke ho phahamisa mantswe a rona ho bontsha
hore: "Dumela, ha re bang, re teng. Re phahamisitse

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mantswe a rona mme ha re na ho kgaotsa ho fihlela re utlwiwa."

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Kahoo ke dumela hore re utlwiwa – ke dumela jwalo –
empa re ntse re hlokomolohuwa ke bongata bo boholo.

42:54.822 --> 42:59.542
Mme ke mokgwa wa ho fihlella sena – e bitswa eng hape?

42:59.542 --> 43:00.402
Lois: Vetopedia

43:00.402 --> 43:01.320
E, hantle-ntle.

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Mme oo ke mokgwa wa ho dula o le ka hodimo ho dintho –
mme ha ho kotsi ho wena ho ingodisa – le ho tswela

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pele ho phahamisa mantswe a rona ka mokgwa o sa kgaotseng.

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Nka rata ho kgothaletsa sena.

43:19.063 --> 43:23.400
Ho lokile haholo, ke leboha haholo
ka ho nka karolo le ho ingodisa.

43:23.400 --> 43:26.480
U ka boela oa kenya mehloli ho Vetopedia.

43:26.480 --> 43:29.792
Mona re bona libuka tsa hau tse peli le moo li ka odaroang teng.

43:29.792 --> 43:31.665
U ka boela ua kenya livideo.

43:31.665 --> 43:37.418
Sena ke ntho e ikhethang haholo ka Vetopedia, hore
mehlodi e bolokehile, hobane divideo tse ngata haholo

43:37.418 --> 43:40.976
tsa pefo ya ditlwaelo di nna di nyamela inthaneteng!

43:40.976 --> 43:46.166
Re se re kgonne ho boloka divideo tsena ho
Vetopedia bakeng sa bahlaselwa ba bang ba

43:46.166 --> 43:51.189
bangata, kaha di se di nyametse diforamong tse ding.

43:51.189 --> 43:57.440
E, kea leboha haholo, Chantal ea ratehang, ka ho ema moo le
ho tsoela pele ho sa tsotellehe litlhaselo tsena kaofela.

43:57.440 --> 43:59.020
Jwale re kgutlile le ka Vetopedia hape!

43:59.020 --> 44:04.133
Ke leboha ho tswa botebong ba pelo ya ka le ka puisano ena.

44:04.133 --> 44:15.600
Ke kamohelo, mme ke leboha haholo ka boitlamo le tshehetso ya
lona ho baphonyohi ba tlhekefetso ya mekgwabo. Ke leboha haholo.

44:15.600 --> 44:17.696
Ke kamoo ho leng kateng.

44:17.696 --> 44:24.699
Hona joale nka rata ho fetisetsa ho Marcel Polte, ea sebelitseng
le baphonyohi ba bangata ba tlhekefetso ea litokomane

44:24.699 --> 44:28.020
le ea phahamisang tlhokomeliso ka litlolo tsena tsa molao.

44:28.020 --> 44:29.687
Kgaola!

44:29.687 --> 44:36.555
Kamora ho qeta lengolo la hae la molao, Ngaka Marcel
Polte o sebeditse dilemo tse 15 e le 'muelli wa molao'

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mekgatlong ya molao ya matjhaba e ikgethang molaong wa kgwebo.

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O ntse a tsoela pele ho sebetsa e le 'muelli oa molao le kajeno.

44:44.545 --> 44:48.619
Ntle le mosebetsi oa hae oa bobuelli, o ile a
tsamaisa tliliniki e le setsebi se sa

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reroang sa kalafo ea kelello ka lilemo tse 'maloa.

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Ka mosebetsi ona, o ile a qala ho sebetsana le taba
ea tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bosatane ka 2017,

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mme esale a e ithuta ka matla ho tloha ka nako eo.

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Dipatlisiso tsa hae le dikopano tse ngata le baphonyohi ba
dikgoka tsa mekgwabo ya bosatane di feletse ka dibuka tse tharo:

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"Tataiso e Ncha e Lefifi ea Lefatše Bolumo ea 1
le 2" le "Uncle Sam's: Tlaleho ea ka Hare ho

45:15.189 --> 45:18.795
tsoa Liheleng tsa Taolo ea Kelello ea Monarch".

45:18.795 --> 45:25.096
Libuka tsa hae li tsebahala ka
lipatlisiso tse tebileng le litšupiso tse ngata.

45:25.096 --> 45:32.094
O boetse a tsheheditse dikgatiso tsa baphonyohi ba
tlhekefetso ya ditlwaelo ka mantswe a hae a qaleho.

45:32.094 --> 45:38.903
Ntlha e 'ngoe ea bohlokoa mosebetsing oa hae ke ho bontša kamoo
pefo ea litšebeletso tsa bosatane mekhatlong ea

45:38.903 --> 45:45.370
liphiri le mananeo a taolo ea kelello a litšebeletso tsa
sephiri tse kang CIA li amanang le tšebeliso ea tsona.

45:45.370 --> 45:51.219
Mokhukhuno o sehlōhō le tlhekefetso li sebelisoa mona
ho baka hore bana le bacha ba be le botho bo

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arohaneng, e le hore ba ka koetlisetsoa ka tsela e loketseng.

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Lumela, Marcel Polte, na oa re utloa?

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E, ke o utlwa hantle haholo.

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Ho lokile haholo, re o amohela ho AZK ya
bo22. Re thabile haholo ho ba le wena mona.

46:15.173 --> 46:17.880
Kea leboha, Lois.

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Le se le utloile menehelo e mekhutšoanyane ho tsoa
ho Sandra Rasch le Chantal Frei mona AZK ea bo22.

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Uena ka bo-'na u sebelitse le baphonyohi ba bangata.

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Na o ka akaretsa ka bokgutshwanyane seo o se senotseng ka ditaba
tsa diketso tsa pefo tsa ditlwaelo tsa

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bosatane, le bopaki ba hao bo tiileng mabapi le ho
kenella ha sesole le CIA, puisanong e kgutshwane?

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Mme na o ka re bolella haholwanyane ka taolo ya kelello
ya MK Ultra jwalo-jwalo? Mme na o ka hlalosa ka

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bokgutshwanyane hore na taolo ya kelello ya MK Ultra ke eng?

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E, nka thaba haholo. Ke tla etsa jwalo.

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Mme ke thabile haholo ho fumana monyetla wa ho beha
ditlaleho tsa Sandra le Chantal moelelong o pharaletseng.

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Tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bohlorisa le taolo ea kelello li
kenyelletsa tlhekefetso e hlophisitsoeng e sa

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itšetlehang feela ka liketso tsa motho ka
mong, empa e kenyelelitsoe meahong e meholoanyane.

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Mekhatlong e senyang ea bolumeli, mananeong a sephiri
a sesole le marang-rang a sebetsang melokong eohle.

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Ka lilemo tse ngata, ke ntse ke fuputsa kopano
ena e rarahaneng ea sesole le bosatane, le ho

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ngola ka moo likarolo tsena li kenellanang kateng.

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Libuka tsa ka li akaretsa liphuputso tsena.

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Litšupiso tsohle tsa mohloli le bopaki li ka fumaneha hape moo.

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Seo ke se hlalosang ka tlase se thehiloe lipolelong tsa
baphonyohi ba kang Chantal le Sandra, empa hape le lingoliloeng

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tse ngata tsa litsebi tse tsoang ho baalafi, litokomaneng
tsa mmuso tse seng li sa pataloa le liphuputsong tsa machaba.

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Mme pefo ya ditlwaelo, ho lokela ho bolelwa, e feta
bofetohedi ba bodumedi kapa tlhekefetso e sehloho.

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Tsena ke liketso tsa pefo tse hlophisitsoeng ka boomo tse
latelang tsamaiso ea litumelo tsa boselamose kapa tsa bosatane.

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Mme malapeng a litshwekere, morero ona o
fetisediwa ho tloha molokong o mong ho ya ho o latelang.

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Ho tloha tsoalong, bana ba qobelloa ho ba
mafatla, empa hape le ho ba bafeteletsi.

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Ba hlokofatsoa, ba hlekefeloa, mme ba qobelloa ho bolaea
liphoofolo kapa esita le batho, joalokaha re sa tsoa utloa.

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Morero oa sena o na le dintlha tse
tharo. Taba ea pele, ho senngoa ha botho.

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Kotsi e matla haholo ea kelello e etsa hore
kelello ea mohlaseluoa e arohane likarolo.

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Mme jwale, ho ahela hodima seo, sa bobedi, ke ho thehwa ha
dikarolo tsa botho tse laolehang, tse bitswang "di-alter" kapa

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dikarolo tsa kahare, tse ntan'o phethahatsa ditaelo tse tobileng.

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Mme sa boraro, se bohlokwa hape, ke kamano le
sebopeho sa molotsana ka ho bopa ka boqhekanyetsi

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molato ho bahlaselwa, empa hape le tshabo le botšepehi.

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Ka tsela ena mahlatsipa a tlamelloa mekhoeng
ena ea borapeli bo khelohileng ho tloha tsoalong.

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Mme mekgwa ena e se e hlalositswe
dipatlisisong tsa dikotsi tsa mmele ka mashome a dilemo.

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Litsebi tsa Jeremane le tsa machaba tse kang Michaela Huber le
Ngaka Alison Miller li tiisa mokhoa ona oa ho

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qheletsoa ka likelello ka likhoka , o atisang ho bonoa ho
bahlaseluoa ba tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bohloriso.

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Empa – mme sena ke sa bohlokwa haholo – boteng
ba tlhekefetso ya mekgwabo bo ka paka eseng

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feela ka dipolelo tsa dipaki, empa hape le ka datha.

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Sehlopha sa Mosebetsi sa Tlhekefetso ea
Litšebeletso se entse liphuputso tse 'maloa tsa litsebi

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tsa phekolo ea kelello Jeremane ka 2005 le 2007.

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Ka kakaretso, linyeoe tse fetang 200 li ile tsa nkoa li
tšepahala. Tsena li ne li kenyeletsa litlaleho tse 42 tsa polao.

49:54.320 --> 49:59.953
Mme Sehlopha sa Ts'ebetso sa Utah State sa
Tlhekefetso ea Litšebeletso se netefalitse

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meaho e tšoanang United States ho tloha ka 1992.

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Qetellong, hara tse ling tse ngata, ho na le phuputso ea
2016 e entsoeng ke Khomishene e Ikemetseng ea Phuputso ea

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Tšebeliso e Mpe ea Thobalano ho Bana (UKASK) naheng ea Jeremane.

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Sena se ile sa boela sa hlahloba maiphihlelo a litsebi tsa tsa
kelello le sechaba tse 174 tse tsoang Jeremane, tse

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boletseng hore li sebelitse le bahlaseluoa ba
tlhekefetso e hlophisitsoeng le ea litšebetso tsa bohloriso.

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Ho tsena, liperesente tse 69 tsa linyeoe
li ne li amana le lihlopha tsa bosatane.

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Mme dipalopalo tsena di paka hore ha re bue ka diketsahalo tse
ikemetseng, empa ke ketsahalo e iphetang

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lefatsheng ka bophara e ileng ya tlalehwa maemong a
profeshenale kgale pele e elellwa ke setjhaba.

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Ho utlwisisa mekgwa ena ya dikgoka tsa ditlwaelo, motho o
lokela hape ho tlwaelana le mananeo a nalane a taolo ya kelello.

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Lilemong tsa bo-1950, CIA e ile ea qala
Morero oa MK-Ultra, e leng lenaneo la lipatlisiso

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le neng le reretsoe ho laola kelello ea batho.

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MK-Ultra e ne e na le merero e ka tlase ho 140 e neng e
kenyelletsa liteko ho batho, moo ho neng ho sebelisoa

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lithethefatsi, haholo-holo LSD, hypnosis,
likhoka tsa motlakase, ho amohuoa boroko le ho

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amohuoa likutlo, ke hore, ho amohuoa likhothatso.

51:17.133 --> 51:23.140
Mme sepheo sa sena sohle e ne e le ho
ntshetsapele mekgwa ya taolo hodima kelello le boitshwaro.

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Seo ho litokomane tsa semmuso ka MK-Ultra ho buuoang ka sona
feela ka mokhoa oa maikutlo, ho tlalehoa ke baphonyohi ba bangata

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e le phihlelo ea 'nete molemong oa litšebeletso tsa bohloriso.

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Mme se hlollang ke hore ke mekgwa e tshwanang, diphofu tse
tshwanang, mme maemong a mang, ke baetsadibe ba tshwanang.

51:39.012 --> 51:45.993
Empa ehlile, ho na le le ba pholohileng lenaneong la MK-Ultra
ka bo lona, leo hona joale le bitsoang "Project Monarch".

51:45.993 --> 51:50.344
E mong oa bona ke Mary Sparrow. Polelo ea
hae e ka fumanoa leqepheng la "50 Voices of

51:50.344 --> 51:52.991
Ritual Abuse" (https://www.50voices.org/).

51:52.991 --> 51:55.826
Empa hape le Cathy O'Brien le Katie Groves.

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Mme esale pele – sena le sona se bohlokwa – ka 1995, baphonyohi
ba MK Ultra ba ne ba fane ka bopaki Washington DC ka pel'a

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Komiti ya Boeletsi mabapi le Diteko tsa Mahlaseli ho Batho.

52:07.902 --> 52:13.040
Liminete li ntse li ka fumaneha. Ha ho
letho la tsena e leng mohopolo o mocha.

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Ntlha ea bohlokoa ke hore pefo ea litšebeletso
le MK-Ultra ha se liketsahalo tse arohaneng.

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Ba kopantswe ke mohopolo o tshwanang, e
leng Bobodi ka mokgwa wa matla le taolo.

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Mme maemong ka bobedi, re boetse re fumana metheo e tshwanang ya
motheo, e leng ho laolwa ka ho feletseng ha motho ka mong, ho

52:33.359 --> 52:38.708
amohuwa botho ka dikgoka tse feteletseng, le
ho thehwa ha disebediswa, ke hore, batho ba

52:38.708 --> 52:42.254
phethang ditaelo ntle le ho di hopola hamorao.

52:42.254 --> 52:48.662
Setsebi sa kelello Dr Corydon Hammond o ile a bua
pepenene ka likhokahano tsena esale ka 1992 kopanong e

52:48.662 --> 52:52.420
itseng ka puo ya hae eo ho thoeng ke "Greenbaum speech".

52:52.420 --> 52:58.478
O hlalositse kamoo mekhoa ea bosatane ea liphiri le mananeo a
litšebeletso tsa sephiri li neng li sebetsa 'moho ka

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boomo ho baka karohano ea kelello le ho kenya meaho ena ea
botho ka har'a mahlatsipa bakeng sa mesebetsi e itseng.

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Ka hona, bafolotsi ba bangata ba tlaleha hore batlōli ba molao ba
ne ba keneletse har'a mekhatlo ea sesole le ea bohlale, empa

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hape le mekhatlong ea lihlongoana – ka mantsoe a mang, ba ne ba
na le lifahleho tse peli tsa mohopolo o le mong, ha re ka rialo.

53:18.244 --> 53:24.555
Mohlala o hlahelletseng ke Lieutenant Colonel Michael
Aquino, eo hape e neng e le moprista e moholo oa Temple of Set.

53:24.555 --> 53:27.780
Batho ba bangata ba kanna ba tloaelana le lebitso la hae.

53:27.780 --> 53:29.120
Ruri ke mosatane, e!

53:29.120 --> 53:37.616
Motheo oa taolo ena, motho a ka re, ke karohano, kgaohano.

53:37.616 --> 53:44.240
Tlhokofatso e feteletseng, haholo-holo e pheta-phetoang,
qetellong e arola kelello likaroloeng tse arohaneng.

53:44.240 --> 53:50.113
Mme dikarolo tsena tsa kahare di ka ntan'o
abelwa ka ho kgetheha boitsebiso bo botjha,

53:50.113 --> 53:54.480
mesebetsi le dintho tse di susumetsang ke baetsadibe.

53:54.480 --> 53:59.820
Mme ka bokgutshwanyane haholo mabapi le mekgwa ya bohlokwahadi
ya kamoo sena se sebetsang kateng, le kamoo se etswang kateng.

53:59.820 --> 54:05.611
Sena ke, pele, "ho qholotsa tsitsipano e matla" ka tlhokofatso,
bohloko, tlhekefetso, ho otloa ka motlakase kapa

54:05.611 --> 54:12.089
esita le maiphihlelo a ho batla u shoa joalo ka ho
nwa ke metsi; empa hape le hypnosis le tlhahiso.

54:12.089 --> 54:20.360
Tsohle li kopantsoe ka matšoao, lipalo kapa letoto la litlhaku,
joalo ka "likhoutu tsa alfabeta", ebe ho ba le khaello ea

54:20.360 --> 54:26.718
likhothatso, mohlala ka har'a litanki kapa
likamore, ho tšoana le se bontšitsoeng letotong la "Stranger

54:26.718 --> 54:29.953
Things"; le khothalelitsoeng ke liteko tsa sebele.

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Ebe ho fanoa ka lithethefatsi, hangata hammoho le
likhoka tsa motlakase, ho eketsa bokgoni ba ho

54:35.992 --> 54:39.540
susumetsoa habonolo, ke hore, bokgoni ba ho susumetsoa.

54:39.540 --> 54:45.335
Mme hape ho na le ho kenya lenaneo ka mekete, moo batlōli ba
molao ba iketsisang eka ba maemong a semoea e

54:45.335 --> 54:51.165
le hore ba kenye meaho e joalo ea matla a
sa tloaelehang ka hare ho bahlaseluoa ba bona.

54:51.165 --> 54:57.260
Patlisisong ea ka, ke ile ka bapisa mekhoa ena le
litokomane tsa MK-Ultra tse seng li lokolotsoe.

54:57.260 --> 55:01.840
Mme metheo, motho a ka re, e ngotswe ka ho hlaka haholo.

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Karolo e bohareng ea litlaleho tse ngata tsa bahlaseluoa ke hape
le tse bitsoang mananeo a boipolao kapa a ho

55:07.891 --> 55:14.826
itimetsa, a sebeletsang ho laola mohlaseluoa ka ho sa feleng
le ho thibela phatlalatso efe kapa efe ka tsela ena.

55:14.826 --> 55:22.280
Mananeo a ntan'o qholotsoa ke mantsoe a sehlooho kapa
matšoao, melumo e itseng kapa 'mino, kapa ho kopana le

55:22.280 --> 55:27.076
batho kapa mekhatlo e itseng, mohlala e le karolo ea phekolo.

55:27.076 --> 55:35.217
E le hore ha mohlaseluoa a bua ka seo a fetileng ho
sona, a qale ho tšoha ka tšohanyetso kapa a itlhokofatse

55:35.217 --> 55:40.231
hobane karolo ea hae e hlophiselitsoe ho sireletsa 'nete.

55:40.231 --> 55:43.773
Mesebetsi e meng e bapaloang ke likarolo
tsena tsa kahare e kenyeletsa moqolotsi oa

55:43.773 --> 55:45.931
litaba, moahloli kapa esita le moqapi oa mananeo.

55:45.931 --> 55:49.500
Marcel, na nka o khaotsa ka motsotsoana?

55:49.500 --> 55:50.100
Ke thabela ho thusa.

55:50.100 --> 55:55.924
Re bone libini le batšoantšisi ba ileng ba
ipolaea. Ebe o lula o nahana, "Joale ba tumme,

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ba na le chelete. Ke hobane'ng ha ba ipolaea?"

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Na see se amana le 'lenaneo lena la ho ipolaea'?
Hore ba ka 'na ba batla ho pepesa lihlephu ebe

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ka tšohanyetso lenaneo lena le qala ho sebetsa?

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E, ke potso e utlwahalang haholo hape ke temoho ya
bohlokwa haholo, haholoholo ha ho tluwa ho batho ba

56:12.754 --> 56:16.128
tummeng, moo, jwalo ka ha o sa tswa bolela, batho ba reng:

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Ba na le leruo, ba na le tlhokomelo, ba lokela ho thaba,
leha ruri seo se tsamaea le khatello e itseng ea maikutlo.

56:24.100 --> 56:28.471
Ho ka etsahala hore maemong a mang –
haholoholo ha ho bonahala eka motho o batla ho pepesa

56:28.471 --> 56:30.682
liphiri – mananeo a joalo a qale ho sebetsa.

56:30.682 --> 56:34.280
Ehlile, sena se thata ho se paka ha ho se ho fetile.

56:34.280 --> 56:37.538
Leha ho le jwalo, ke dumela hore
tsena ke ditaba tse sa tlwaelehang.

56:37.538 --> 56:46.196
Maemong a mang, ho bonolo haholo ho hakanya, haholoholo ho ba
seng ba bontšitse hore ba ka rata ho bua ka lintho tse itseng

56:46.196 --> 56:50.897
kapa ba seng ba hlahisitse lintlha tse itseng tsa bohlokoa.

56:50.897 --> 56:54.815
Leha ho le jwalo, maemong a mangata,
ho tla ba le ho hong ka morao ho yona.

56:54.815 --> 57:01.249
Mme motho o lokela ho ipotsa: "Ke qabang efe e
kgolo ya ka hare eo batho bana ba tummeng ba

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nang le yona, e qetellang e lebisa ho ipolaea?"

57:04.668 --> 57:10.385
Leha ho le jwalo, sena se isa ho dipotso tse lefifi le
ho feta kapa tse lefifi ka ho tshwana, moo motho a

57:10.385 --> 57:14.082
lokelang ho ipotsa dipotso: "Theko ya botumo bona e bile efe?"

57:14.082 --> 57:21.710
Mme ka lebaka leo, na ho hlaha likhohlano tsa letsoalo, kapa
mohlomong ho bile ho na le mekhoa e fetang mekhoa ena ea ho

57:21.710 --> 57:28.984
laola kelello, joalokaha ke e hlalositse, ho holimolla
batho ba joalo, ha re ka rialo, boemong bo tebileng haholo-holo?

57:28.984 --> 57:32.266
Ho ka feta moelelo oa sengoloa sena,
empa ke ntlha ea bohlokoa haholo-holo.

57:32.266 --> 57:34.273
Kea leboha, ho lokile haholo, e.

57:34.273 --> 57:39.656
E, re tlohelle lenaneo la boipolao
re shebeng setshwantsho se seholo.

57:39.656 --> 57:45.792
E leng hore: bana ha se ba pholohileng ba tsoang Jeremane feela
kapa, joalo ka Chantal Frei, ba tsoang Switzerland, empa

57:45.792 --> 57:52.260
hape ba tsoa linaheng tse ling tse ngata, tse kang United
Kingdom, United States, Netherlands, Australia le Switzerland.

57:52.260 --> 57:56.150
Ka kakaretso, ho ka thoe ho na le litlaleho
tse nang le mekhoa e tšoanang lefatšeng ka

57:56.150 --> 57:59.036
bophara – tse akaretsitsoeng ka bokhutšoanyane.

57:59.036 --> 58:02.143
Maemong a mangata, ke lelapa la motho
ka bo lona le etsang tlolo ea molao.

58:02.143 --> 58:06.836
Libaka tsa botlokotsebe li kenyeletsa matlo
a phomolo a poraefete, likereke, likamore tse

58:06.836 --> 58:09.631
ka tlas'a lefatše, meaho ea sesole le meru.

58:09.631 --> 58:16.026
Ebe ho na le taolo ea kelello, thekiso ea batho, litšoantšo tsa
thobalano tsa bana, bofebe le tse bitsoang lifilimi tsa snuff ,

58:16.026 --> 58:20.305
empa hape le likamano lipakeng tsa
lihlotšoana tsena tsa bolumeli tsa lehae, moo sena

58:20.305 --> 58:23.180
se etsahalang teng, le marang-rang a machaba.

58:23.180 --> 58:29.863
Mme taba ena kaofela, meaho ena, ebe e boetse e kopana
le botlokotsebe bo hlophisehileng, empa hape le

58:29.863 --> 58:34.363
makaleng a mmuso kapa a sesole moo liteko li etsetsoang batho.

58:34.363 --> 58:41.498
Mohlala o le mong o boletsoeng ke Chantal Frei ke
khokahano le setsi sa sesole sa US se bitsoang "Dagger

58:41.498 --> 58:45.994
Complex" se Darmstadt, moo a bileng le maiphihlelo a joalo.

58:45.994 --> 58:51.583
Empa Cathy O'Brien, mohlala, o boetse o bolela mabitso a
metheo e mengata ya sesole naheng ya USA e le dibaka tsa

58:51.583 --> 58:55.424
botlokotsebe, hammoho le ditshebeletso tsa NASA, mohlala.

58:55.424 --> 59:02.181
Bukeng ea ka ea Uncle Sam's, ke hlahloba lipolelo tse entsoeng ke
Katie Groves, ea fanang ka litlaleho livideong mabapi le

59:02.181 --> 59:09.556
liphihlelo tsa hae sebakeng seo ho thoeng ke 'fektheri ea snuff'
moo ho neng ho hlahisoa lifilimi tse bontšang polao ea bana.

59:09.556 --> 59:15.346
O hlalosa kamoo bana bana ba neng ba
hlekefetswa ka tsela e hlophisitsweng, ba hlokofatswa le

59:15.346 --> 59:18.726
ho bolawa setsing se ka tlasa lefatshe se Texas.

59:18.726 --> 59:23.282
Mme ho ya ka polelo ya hae, setsi seo se ne se
le tlasa taolo ya CIA, eo ho qoswang hore e

59:23.282 --> 59:26.346
tsamaisa sehlopha sa matjhaba sa kgwebo ya bana.

59:26.346 --> 59:30.872
Teko ea ho shebella sebakeng se hole e
laetsoeng ke eena e ile ea khona ho tiisa ho ba

59:30.872 --> 59:33.936
teng ha setsi sena ntle ho pelaelo efe kapa efe.

59:33.936 --> 59:41.662
Mme leha dipolelo tsena di le thata ho paka, ntle le karolo ya
"ho shebella o le hole", ho lokela ho bolelwa hore di tsamaellana

59:41.662 --> 59:47.637
ka dintlha tse ngata le dipolelo tsa baphonyohi ba
bang, haholoholo ha di kopantswe le dikarolo tsa

59:47.637 --> 59:52.151
ditlwaelo, maemo a sesole, le mekgwa e rarahaneng ya mananeo.

59:52.151 --> 59:59.742
Maemong a mang, baphonyohi ba sa tsebaneng ba bolela libaka
tse tšoanang kapa tse tobileng tsa botlokotsebe kapa baetsalibe.

59:59.742 --> 01:00:06.365
Nakong ea lipatlisiso tsa ka, ke ile ka boela ka etsa
kopo ea FOIA, ke hore, kopo ea tlhahisoleseling

01:00:06.365 --> 01:00:10.880
tlas'a Molao oa Tokoloho ea Tlhahisoleseling oa US, ho CIA.

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:19.916
Mme ka mora moo ka kopa ho lokollwa ha ditokomane tsohle tse
amanang le mofalodi ya boletsweng wa MK-Ultra, Cathy O'Brien.

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Mme karabo ya CIA e kgahla haholo.

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Ho ne ho ngotswe: "Ho ba teng kapa ho se be teng
ha ditokomane ha ho ka netefatswa kapa ho latolwa."

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Ho ba teng kapa ho se be teng ha litokomane tse joalo hajoale ke
lekunutu, 'me ka hona li sirelelitsoe hore li se ke tsa senoloa.

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Mme ha o nahana ka karabo ena, ho
bolela hore polelo ya semmuso ke:

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Ho bonahala ho na le lifaele, empa ka mabaka
a tšireletso ea naha ha li ka ke tsa senoloa.

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Ho seng jwalo, ba ka be ba mpa ba itse, "Ha ho
direkoto tse fumanweng." Ka mantsoe a mang, "Ha ho letho."

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Mme taba ya hore ho na le eng kapa eng e amanang
le Cathy O'Brien e se e le sesupo se matla haholo

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sa hore ho na le nnete paleng ya hae, ka mohlala.

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Ntle le dintlha tsa kelello le tsa botekgeniki,
ho tlameha hape ho bolelwe hore semelo sa moya le

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sa maikutlo se bapala karolo ya bohlokwa haholo.

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Baetsadibe ba bangata ba ipona e le karolo ya
mokgatlo wa bosatane kapa wa Lucifer o batlang ho

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fumana matla ka mahlomola, lefu le ho hatella batho.

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Ho bona, mekhoa ena e feta tšoantšetso feela.

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Ba dumela matleng kapa matleng a ka fumanwang ka sehlabelo sena.

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Mme ke tumelo ena hantle e fetisetswang
melokong ka hara malapa a lihlotšoana tsa borapedi,

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e ba eketsoa le pono e ikhethang ea lefatše:

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Ke hore, ba kgethilweng – ho ya ka pono ya bona – ba
phahametse batho ba bang – bao le bona ba ba

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tshabang, leha ho le jwalo, ka lebaka la bongata ba bona.

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E.

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Litlamorao ho bahlaseluoa, e leng
bahlaseluoa ba litsamaiso tsena, le tsona li bohlokoa.

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Ba tšoeroe ke litlamorao tse mpe tsa kotsi e matla kelellong tse
kang ho ikarola ho rarahaneng ha kelello , ho hopola lintho

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tse fetileng ka matla (flashbacks) – joalokaha ho boletse
Sandra le Chantal – mafu a letsoalo, le boitšoaro bo qobelloang.

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Ho ka ba le mafu a 'mele ka lebaka la lilemo tsa tlhekefetso.

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Mme hangata le mathata a tebileng a boitsebiso.

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Ka hona, bahlaseluoa ba bangata ba ba le sebopeho sena sa
boitsebahatso bo arohaneng, jwalo ka ha bahlodi ba ne ba rerile.

01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:35.976
Kahoo o ba le pokello e sa feleng ea botho
bo bongata bo ka hare bo hlahang le ka ntle.

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Kahoo ha re bua ka pefo ea litšebeletso tsa bohlanya le taolo ea
kelello – 'me ka sena ke se ke le haufi le ho qetela – ha se taba

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feela ea ho pepesa liketsahalo tsa motho ka mong, empa ke potso e
kholo ea hore na matla ana a tseba hakae ka

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kelello ea motho le hore na a sebelisa tsebo
ena hampe joang ho fihlela sepheo se itseng.

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E leng ho theha seo ba se nkang e
le mmuso oa lefats'e oa bosatane.

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Ka hona, ho bohlokwa haholo hore re be le diphuputso tse
ikemetseng mabapi le ho arohana ha kelello le

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mananeo a thehilweng hodima dikotsi tsa kelello, le hore ho
be le dibaka tse bolokehileng bakeng sa baphonyohi.

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Empa hape le sebete sa ho sebetsa mmoho ho tšela meeli
ea mekhatlo, hobane khutso e sireletsa feela baetsalibe.

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Thuto le tlhokomediso ke mohato oa
pele oa ho pshatla potoloho ena.

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Mme mosebetsi wa ka hape o reretswe ho ba
tlatsetso kutlwisisong e batsi ya mekgwa ena.

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Tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa sephiri ha se taba e ka akheloang,
empa ke sesupo sa se etsahalang ha lihlopha tsa sephiri tsa boloi

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li atolosa tšusumetso ea tsona sechabeng sa rona ho sa elelloe.

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E, monghadi.

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Lebaka le leng ke lena leo ka lona re tlamehang ho
itlhahloba, ho nka bahlaseluoa ka botebo le ho

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netefatsa hore liphuputso tsena li phatlalatsoa phatlalatsa.

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Etsoe, sena se sokela tokoloho ea motho e mong le e mong.

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Tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bohlanya le taolo ea kelello,
joalokaha ho se ho boletsoe thutong, ke lipontšo

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tsa mohopolo o le mong o senyang: hore motho a
ka laoloa, a robehuoa le ho amohuoa moea oa hae.

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Leha ho le jwalo, nnete e nngwe le e nngwe e
hlahang, eo, ha re ka rialo, e leng karolo e

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ntle ya taba yohle, e fokolisa tsamaiso ena.

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Tlhaloso e qala qetellong, moo re fetolang ntho ena e
sa buuoeng ka mantsoe, 'me haholo-holo baphonyohi –

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joalo ka Sandra le Chantal – ba iteta sefuba ho bua.

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Ke ka lebaka leo sethala se jwalo ka sena e leng
sa bohlokwa haholo. Ka hoo, hape, ke leboha bohle.

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Mme ke rata ho leboha bohle ba mametseng ka ho
ikemisetsa ho mamela, empa hape le ho shebella,

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le ho se koale mahlo a lona. Ke leboha haholo.

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E! Kea leboha!

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Kea leboha, Marcel. Ka metsotso e seng mekae feela, o hlile
o hokahantse seo ntate a se buileng qalong ea kopano ena.

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O sa tswa bontsha, ka diphuputso tsa rona tsa mashome a dilemo,
kamoo meaho ena ya sephiri qetellong e thehilweng ho Bobositate.

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Mme re utlwile ho tswa melomong ya bona hore
ba batla ho theha puso ya lefatshe ya bosatane.

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Empa ba fokolang ka palo.

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Re ba feta hole, ha feela re ka hlokomela seo!

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Ha feela leseli le ne le ka kena, motheo
ona kaofela oa botlokotsebe o ne o tla

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putlama. Mme re se re le haufi haholo le ntlha eo.

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Ka hona: haeba kaofela ha lona le phatlalatsa thuto ena
le AZK ena kaofela, hore leseli la 'nete le khanye,

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joale tsamaiso ena ea lefats'e ea bosatane e tla putlama.

01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:40.487
Kea leboha ka ntwa ya lona ya ho phahamisa
tlhokomediso le ho pepesa mekgwa ena e sehlōhō.

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Bashebelli ba rona hona joale le bona ba ipotsa: Ho ka
etsahala joang hore litlolo tsa molao tse kang tsena li

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se ke tsa qosoa ke mapolesa le ho fuoa kotlo ke makhotla?

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Mme tabeng ena, nka kopa ho fetisetsa ho Uwe Kranz.

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Uwe Kranz ke lepolesa, moeletsi e moholo wa lekala la tsa
bodumedi ya tlohetseng mosebetsi, le eo e neng e le mopresidente

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wa Ofisi ya Sepolesa sa Botlokotsebe ya Naha ya Thuringia.

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E ne e le setsebi sa naha ho Europol.

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E le setsebi sa litaba tsa tšireletso le bokhukhuni, o
atisa ho phatlalatsa lingoloa mecheng e mengata ea phatlalatso.

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Uwe Kranz o qetile lilemo tse fetang 50 a lwantsha
botlokotsebe bo hlophisitsweng, bofetohedi le bokhukhuni.

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Nakong eo a neng a le ofising, o ne a
ikemiseditse haholo ho sireletsa bana.

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Sena se hlaka ha o sheba makala a mosebetsi wa hae wa botsebi:

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E ne e le moemeli litabeng tsa batjha, thibelong ea botlokotsebe,
ntoeng khahlanong le tlhekefetso ea thobalano ho bana le khoebong

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ea batho le litho tsa 'mele maemong a naha le a machaba, mme
o ne a kenetse mosebetsi oa mokhatlo oa leano la botlokotsebe.

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Websaeteng ea hae, Uwe Kranz o phatlalatsa
lingoloa ka lihlooho tse kang "tlhekefetso

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ea thobalano ea bana" le "taolo ea kelello".

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E le mofuputsi oa botlokotsebe, o fana ka
temohisiso ka "mmuso o tebileng" mme o shebella

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liketsahalo tsa lefatše tsa hajoale a le phomolong ea hae.

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O boetse o fana ka boiphihlelo le tsebo ya hae e le setho le
sebui dikopanong tsa boralitaba tse hlophisitsweng ke mekgatlo e

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tsebahalang jwalo ka Axion Resist le MWGFD
e.V. (Litsebi tsa Bongaka le Borasaense bakeng

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sa Bophelo bo Botle, Tokoloho le Demokerasi).

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Tsena di thehilwe ka sepheo sa ho sireletsa
boiketlo ba bana le ho baballa tokoloho le puso ya molao.

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Mona, o ile a bua ka ditaba tse kenyeletsang tlolo ya molao ya
bonyama ba bana, ho qala thobalano kapele le kgwebo ya bana.

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Ke tlotla e kgethehileng ho nna ho amohela
setsebi sena sa botlokotsebe se nang le

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boiphihlelo, Uwe Kranz, mona kopanong ya bo22 ya AZK.

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Tlhompho eohle ke ea ka.

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Ke thabela ho o bona mona.

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E, o na le boiphihlelo ba dilemo tse mashome a
mahlano ba dipatlisiso tsa botlokotsebe ntweng

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ya ho lwantsha tlhekefetso ya thobalano ya bana.

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Joaloka lepolesa, esita le joaloka moeletsi e moholo oa
mosebeletsi oa mmuso le hlooho ea Lefapha

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la Lipatlisiso tsa Botlokotsebe la
Thuringia, o ne o le ka pele ho lipatlisiso tsena.

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Seo se bolela hore linyeoe li ile tsa tlalehoa ho uena,
eaba u li fuputsa. Empa ho ile ha etsahala'ng ka mor'a moo?

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Bothata ke hore bopaki bo tlameha ho hlahisoa pele e le hore
nyeoe e ka fetisetsoa ofising ea mochochisi oa

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sechaba, moo e tla amoheloa le ho lokisoa bocha
hore e be qoso e tla hlahisoa ka pel'a lekhotla.

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Mme ka bomadimabe, ho na le
ditlhōlohelo tse ngata haholo tseleng.

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Ho a ferekanya ha o tshwara motho
hoseng ebe o kopana le yena hape thapama.

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– Ke bontšitse sena ka mohlala: a
tšoaroa hoseng, a lokolloa motšehare.

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Ka mohlala, hangata re kopana le bothata ba
hore mapolesa a fihla hangata sebakeng sa

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polao ebe a qala ho etsa dipatlisiso ka polao eo.

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Mme yaba, ha ba le tseleng e eang ofising ya mochochisi
wa setjhaba, polao e fetoha kotsi ya mmele e bakang lefu.

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Ebe, tlas'a maemo a itseng, u ka iphumana u
le maemong a fapaneng ka ho feletseng a molao

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le u na le mathata a fapaneng ka ho feletseng.

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Kapa ha, jwaloka nyeoeng ya haufinyane, bahlola ba entseng peto
ya sehlopha ba tswa ka kgotlatshekelo ba ntse ba letsa

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molodi ka thabo hobane moahlodi ha a na bonnete bo
phethahetseng ba hore mohlankana a kanna yaba o ne a dumetse.

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Ke moo taba eohle e qalang ho belaetsa hanyane.

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Mme ho na le menyetla e mengata haholo ya ho emisa ditshebetso
kapa ho di fetola hore e be kamohelo ya kelello, jwalo-jwalo.

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Kahoo ho na le qabang kae-kae
khoebong, mme ka bomalimabe ho jwalo.

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Mibabelo ena e tlameha ho tšoaroa ka hloko le ka botebo.

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O na le tokelo e feletseng ya ho tshwarwa
hantle ke mapolesa le tsamaiso ya toka.

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Kea leboha ka polelo ea hau. U boetse u bua ka seo ho thoeng ke
"molato oa bosebeletsi ba bana" le likamano

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tseo ho thoeng li fihla "litsing tse
phahameng". U hlokometse eng mabapi le taba ee?

01:10:03.702 --> 01:10:10.340
E, kahoo ha re nke tse latelang: Kamehla ke
kenyeletsa nyeoe ea Dutroux lipuong tsa ka tsa PowerPoint.

01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:13.549
Ka sebele o tloaelane le nyeoe ea Dutroux.

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Mohlahlathetsi oa bana oa Belgium ea
bolaeang bana ba leshome le motso o mong mme a

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bolaisa ba babeli ka tlala ha a le chankaneng.

01:10:20.376 --> 01:10:26.025
Hobane ha a ka a senola letho ha a le chankaneng, mme
bana ba shoa ke tlala. Ke taba e tshabehang kannete.

01:10:26.025 --> 01:10:34.444
Letoto lohle la lipaki le bile likotsing, kapa le
hlokahetse ka maemo a belaetsang, kapa eng kapa eng.

01:10:34.444 --> 01:10:44.745
Mme nyeoe ea Dutroux e se e pakile hore maemo ohle a sechaba
a ne a kenyelelitsoe mehatong ena ea tlhekefetso ea bana.

01:10:44.745 --> 01:10:51.722
Kahoo sena se ile sa fihla sehlohlolong sa lipolotiki,
sehlohlolong sa setso, thelevisheneng le mecheng ea phatlalatso.

01:10:51.722 --> 01:10:57.353
Mokhoa ona o ne o tšoana le bothata ba mantlha.

01:10:57.353 --> 01:11:00.544
Hore na ke Epstein kapa che, ke ntho e tšoanang hantle.

01:11:00.544 --> 01:11:05.703
Ho Epstein's, ba boetse ba na le likamano tse fihlang holimo-limo
lipolotiking, khoebong ea boithabiso, ho

01:11:05.703 --> 01:11:11.307
bachochisi – ke mang ea tsebang hore na ke eng hape –
ho liofisiri tse phahameng le bo-ralipolotiki.

01:11:11.307 --> 01:11:16.439
Ba entse se tšoanang le "Diddy" Sean Combs, eo le
eena a tsebahalang haholo. Hona joale o qetile

01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.631
lilemo tse 'ne le likhoeli tse peli a le chankaneng.

01:11:19.631 --> 01:11:27.703
Ha e le hantle, ena ke nyatso e se nang kotsi, hobane karolo
eohle ea botlokotsebe bo hlophisitsoeng e mpa e tlositsoe feela.

01:11:27.703 --> 01:11:31.471
Ho ne ho thwe re tla tlohela nyeoe mme re mo
ahlolele feela ketsahalo e le nngwe ya

01:11:31.471 --> 01:11:34.453
tlhekefetso kgahlanong le kgarebe kapa mosadi wa hae.

01:11:34.453 --> 01:11:39.643
Mme ka mora moo, tshebetso yohle e
ile ya fokotswa ho ba karolo e nyane.

01:11:39.643 --> 01:11:45.815
Maemong a mangata, mekgwa e jwalo e arolwa ka boomo.

01:11:45.815 --> 01:11:50.543
Ka 1995, re bile le nyeoe e kholo Engelane. E ne e boetse
e phatlalalitsoe ke libanka, boradipolotiki, mecha ea

01:11:50.543 --> 01:11:53.506
phatlalatso, bo-rakhoebo ba baholo le mang kapa mang e mong.

01:11:53.506 --> 01:11:59.056
Ha dilemo di ntse di feta, tshebetso e ile ya nna e nyane ho
isa ho nyane, ho fihlela qetellong ho se ho se letho le setseng.

01:11:59.056 --> 01:12:05.014
Qetellong, tsena e ne e le linyeoe tse nyane – li arohanngoa 'me
li qhaqholloa likotoana tse nyenyane, ha re

01:12:05.014 --> 01:12:09.511
ka rialo, likotoana tse nyenyane tsa molao,
'me ka mor'a moo ha ho sa sala letho le leholo.

01:12:09.511 --> 01:12:19.251
Sena ka tlhaho se baka pelaelo ea hore ho na le tšusumetso
e sebelisoang mona. Seo se ke ke sa hlokomolohuoa habonolo.

01:12:19.251 --> 01:12:25.251
Na le lona le hlokometse molao-motheo ona
sebakeng sa lona, jwalo ka ha ho se ho ntse ho

01:12:25.251 --> 01:12:29.805
etsahetse ka Epstein, Dutroux, P. Diddy jwalo-jwalo?

01:12:29.805 --> 01:12:32.821
Melao-motheo e tšoana hohle, ho sa tsotellehe naha.

01:12:32.821 --> 01:12:43.005
Le lokela ho nahana hore tlhekefetso ena ea
thobalano ea bana ba banyenyane, banana le

01:12:43.005 --> 01:12:49.402
bacha e etsahala hohle Europe le hohle lefatšeng.

01:12:49.402 --> 01:13:03.111
Ha o ka sheba NCMEC, mohlala – setsi sa Amerika sa ho tlaleha
bana ba lahlehileng le ba hlekefelitsoeng – se ne se na le

01:13:03.111 --> 01:13:10.562
linyeoe tse 50,000 lilemong tse nne kapa tse hlano tse fetileng.

01:13:10.562 --> 01:13:13.976
Hona joale re fumana liketsahalo tse 205,000
tse tlalehoang ho rona selemo se seng le se seng.

01:13:13.976 --> 01:13:14.667
Ho makatsa!

01:13:14.667 --> 01:13:16.590
Empa re lebone le lenyenyane.

01:13:16.590 --> 01:13:25.069
Ha o bapisa seo NCMEC e se tlalehang le Asia,
India, le Pakistan, re batla re le dimilione.

01:13:25.069 --> 01:13:29.987
Sena se bontša ka ho hlaka hore ke bothata
ba lefats'e ka bophara, eseng feela ba

01:13:29.987 --> 01:13:33.609
Jeremane, eseng feela ba Belziki kapa eng kapa eng.

01:13:33.609 --> 01:13:38.126
Ke boetse ke utloile hore ho na le diphuputso tse ngata
tsa semmuso mabapi le tlhekefetso ya dikereke tsa sephiri.

01:13:38.126 --> 01:13:43.092
A o ka hlalosa ka dipolelo tse mmalwa
seo polelo ya semmuso e se buileng?

01:13:43.092 --> 01:13:50.827
Ho na le liphuputso tse ngata. Ntumelle, ho na le
liphuputso tse se nang palo lekaleng lena haholo-holo.

01:13:50.827 --> 01:13:56.563
Nna ka bonna ke ngotse diphuputso tse pedi
bakeng sa Palamente ya Yuropa, ka 2020 le 2021, moo

01:13:56.563 --> 01:13:59.517
ke ileng ka bokella tlhahisoleseding ena yohle.

01:13:59.517 --> 01:14:04.643
Mme ka re, "Ho lokile, ke eng se ka etswang
hamolemo? Re ka nolofatsa eng? Re ka qala hokae?"

01:14:04.643 --> 01:14:07.276
– Mme ho entsoe hantle se fapaneng.

01:14:07.276 --> 01:14:13.002
Ho thehilwe setsi hape, setsi sa ho
lwantsha tlhekefetso ya thobalano ya bana. Boom.

01:14:13.002 --> 01:14:16.952
Jwale re na le setsi se seng hape, ka
thoko ho Europol le tse ding jwalo-jwalo.

01:14:16.952 --> 01:14:20.912
Re na le baemeli hohle mme re na le diphuputso hohle.

01:14:20.912 --> 01:14:27.603
Ho bile le phuputso e babatsehang ka 2011
mabapi le kenyelletso ea litaelo tsa EU bakeng sa

01:14:27.603 --> 01:14:31.392
ho loantša tlhekefetso ea thobalano ea bana.

01:14:31.392 --> 01:14:35.022
Mme e ile ya hlahlojwa ka 2016. Ke phuputso e ntle.

01:14:35.022 --> 01:14:38.098
Ho bile le phuputso e 'ngoe ke
WeProtect. (https://www.weprotect.org/)

01:14:38.098 --> 01:14:43.291
E ne e boetse e le phuputso e ntle; e ne e
hloka feela ho tswelapele le ho phethahatsoa.

01:14:43.291 --> 01:14:45.508
Ho ne ho hlokahala feela hore motho a etse ho hong ka hona!

01:14:45.508 --> 01:14:49.984
Ho ile ha etswa phuputso, e ileng ya ngolwa mme ya ba
monate ho balwa, e na le ditshwantsho tse ntle,

01:14:49.984 --> 01:14:52.744
digaraphiki tse ntle le dintho tseo tsohle tse kgahlehang.

01:14:52.744 --> 01:14:55.526
Empa tšebetsong ka kakaretso ho na le khaello.

01:14:55.526 --> 01:15:00.228
Kahoo, ha se feela hore ho haella lipatlisiso mabapi le
linyeoe tse sa tlalehoang, empa hape ho haella le boikemisetso

01:15:00.228 --> 01:15:02.525
ba lipolotiki ba ho sebetsana le litaba tsena ka botebo.

01:15:02.525 --> 01:15:07.101
Ha se hore ho haella melao, 'me ka
sebele ha ho na khaello ea liphuputso.

01:15:07.101 --> 01:15:12.051
Che, o tlameha ho e etsa! O tlameha
ho e etsa ebile o batla ho e etsa!

01:15:20.104 --> 01:15:25.141
Le lona le bua haholo ka thuto ea thobalano ea
bana ba banyenyane likolong tsa bana ba banyenyane

01:15:25.141 --> 01:15:28.291
le likolong tse tloaelehileng. Le ka reng ka seo?

01:15:28.291 --> 01:15:36.786
E, thuto ea thobalano ea bana ba banyenyane ke karolo e
khethehileng e ntshosisitseng haholo, hobane e

01:15:36.786 --> 01:15:45.306
ntlafatsoe ke WHO ka tšebelisano 'moho le Setsi sa
Federale sa Jeremane sa Thuto ea Bophelo bo Botle.

01:15:45.306 --> 01:15:51.782
Ho tloha ka la 13 Hlakola selemong sena (2025), e
bitswa "Setsi sa Federale sa Bophelo bo Botle ba Setjhaba".

01:15:51.782 --> 01:15:55.300
E na le ditokelo tse ngata le ho feta, menyetla e
mengata le ho feta, mme e ka etsa ho hongata le ho feta,

01:15:55.300 --> 01:15:58.092
haholoholo ha ho tluwa tabeng ya tshireletso ya tlelaemete.

01:15:58.092 --> 01:16:05.583
Mme ba babedi bana ba hlophisitse tataiso ena ya kamoo
ho ka "rutwang bana ba banyenyane ka tsa thobalano".

01:16:05.583 --> 01:16:13.518
Mohopolo o motheo ka mora sena ke hore ngoana – kamora hore a ka
ntšoa ka mpa ho fihlela a tsoaloa, e leng lehlakore le le leng la

01:16:13.518 --> 01:16:19.011
ngangisano – hanghang o bitsoa motho ea phelang
bophelo ba thobalano kamora ho tsoaloa, eo

01:16:19.011 --> 01:16:22.074
bophelo ba hae bo ka hlekefelitsoeng nako efe kapa efe.

01:16:22.074 --> 01:16:29.171
Mme hoo ho hlanya hoo o ke keng wa ho nahana.

01:16:29.171 --> 01:16:37.662
Mme ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa ke hore ditataiso tsena tsa
BZgA tse tswang ho WHO di thehilwe hodima diphuputso tsa saense.

01:16:37.662 --> 01:16:44.529
Mme jwale ka kopo sheba diphuputso tsa saense
mme o bone hore na di tswa kae. Di tswa ho Kinsey.

01:16:44.529 --> 01:16:52.740
Monna ea ngotseng Tlaleho e tummeng hampe ea Kinsey
lilemong tsa bo-1960 mabapi le tokoloho ea banna le basali.

01:16:52.740 --> 01:16:58.142
Ho tloha ka nako eo, tsohle li ile tsa mpa tsa senyeha.

01:16:58.142 --> 01:17:02.920
Ka nako eo, mohopolo oa ho lumella thobalano
e sa laoleheng o ne o se o ntse o qaptjoa.

01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:10.210
Ho se tsotelle bana le thobalano le bana ho a
khoneha, ho tlwaelehile, ebile ho a dumellwa.

01:17:10.210 --> 01:17:17.188
Ho ile ha hlahiswa puo e mpe. Mme motho
enwa, Kinsey, o ile a etsa letoto la diteko.

01:17:17.188 --> 01:17:24.771
Mme ho na le letoto la diteko tseo ke di boneng moo
ngwana ya dilemo tse nne a ileng a hlekefetswa dihora tse 24

01:17:24.771 --> 01:17:28.918
hore a fihlele maikutlo a ho phahamela a makgetlo a 27.

01:17:28.918 --> 01:17:37.038
Ak'u nahane feela. O ne a hlalosa ho fihlela tlhoro nako le nako
ha ngoana a lla, a hoeletsa, kapa a tsokotsa – a hlokofatsa

01:17:37.038 --> 01:17:43.260
ngoana ea lilemo li 'ne ka lihora tse 24 ho
fihlela ho ba le karabelo e itseng ea 'mele – ebe o

01:17:43.260 --> 01:17:47.103
hlalosa karabelo eo ea 'mele e le ho fihlela tlhoro.

01:17:47.103 --> 01:17:52.491
Mme ka mora moo, ho bile le ba neng ba etsa sena, ba
hlekefetsang bana. Ba bang ba bona e ne e le matichere, ba

01:17:52.491 --> 01:17:55.546
bang e le batshwaruwa ba mehleng ba neng ba lokolotswe.

01:17:55.546 --> 01:17:59.285
O tlameha ho etsa dipatlisiso le ho sefa tsohle tseo.

01:17:59.285 --> 01:18:03.323
Ebe o ipotsa: "Dumela, see ke eng? Tsebo ya saense?"

01:18:03.323 --> 01:18:08.298
Hona ke tlhekefetso e hloekileng ea bana, pefo
e hloekileng ea thobalano khahlanong le bana, e

01:18:08.298 --> 01:18:11.318
itšetlehileng ka boitšireletso ba lipatlisiso.

01:18:11.318 --> 01:18:14.445
Mme yaba o ba le baithuti ba tshwanang.

01:18:14.445 --> 01:18:21.706
Kinsey o ile a latela Kentler. Ho ne ho na le Tlaleho ea Kentler.

01:18:21.706 --> 01:18:25.943
Eaba ho ba le Sielert. Eaba ho ba
le e mong hape, haufinyane tjena.

01:18:25.943 --> 01:18:29.669
Kaofela ba tswa sehlopheng se le seng sa maikutlo.

01:18:29.669 --> 01:18:31.820
U tlameha ho nahana. Kinsey o e qalile.

01:18:31.820 --> 01:18:38.864
Eaba ba "hapa" diyunivesithi, dikholetjhe tsa
botekgeniki le ditsi tsa kwetliso e kgethehileng.

01:18:38.864 --> 01:18:46.161
Mme jwale meloko ya bo-ramahlale ba kelello ya setjhaba le ba
ditso le tse ding le tse ding... Ba ntse ba hlahiswa ka bongata

01:18:46.161 --> 01:18:52.174
ka ho latellana mme ba tlala diofising tsa boiketlo
ba setjhaba le mekgatlong ya thuto hohle, ba tswela

01:18:52.174 --> 01:18:55.402
pele ho sebetsa ho ya ka moya wa kwetliso ya bona.

01:18:55.402 --> 01:18:56.400
Ho makatsa!

01:18:56.400 --> 01:18:59.060
Ka maikutlo a ka, hoo ke bothoto bo feletseng.

01:18:59.060 --> 01:19:05.664
Mme ha o ka sheba seo ditaelo tsena di se batlang – ho tloha
dilemong tse lefela ho isa ho tse nne, ngwana o lokela ho ithuta

01:19:05.664 --> 01:19:09.086
ho itheola. Ho tloha dilemong tse lefela ho isa ho tse nne!

01:19:09.086 --> 01:19:13.260
Ke ipotsa, ehlile, hore na ke titjhere
efe e etsang jwalo, mme e etsa jwang?

01:19:13.260 --> 01:19:26.135
Mme jwale re na le ditsi tsa tlhokomelo ya bana tse 17
Schwäbisch Hall tse hlomang dibaka tsa boithuto ba mmele.

01:19:26.135 --> 01:19:27.866
Batsoali ba ile ba makala ho feletseng!

01:19:27.866 --> 01:19:31.660
Ba ne ba sa tsebe letho ka hona. Le bona ba ne ba sa tsebisoa.

01:19:31.660 --> 01:19:40.460
Kahoo, haeba eo ke thuto ea thobalano ea bana ba
banyenyane, joale ha e le hantle ke ts'enyo feela ea lelapa.

01:19:40.460 --> 01:19:42.092
Seo ke tshenyo ya lelapa.

01:19:42.092 --> 01:19:48.900
Motheo oa naha, khubu ea naha, ke
kamano e phetseng hantle ea lelapa.

01:19:48.900 --> 01:19:51.844
Ho na le ntate, ho na le mme, ho na le ngwana, mme ho felela moo.

01:19:51.844 --> 01:19:57.686
Ho na le bong bo peli, 'me ho felela moo. Joale
ke motho ea feteletseng oa lehlakore le letona.

01:19:57.686 --> 01:20:02.878
Kea tseba. Ho na le ntho e ntle le ho
feta, joalokaha Monika Gruber a kile a bua:

01:20:02.878 --> 01:20:10.893
Mme haeba re na le Motsoali1 le Motsoali2, haufinyane re tla
ba le Setopo1 le Setopo2 bakeng sa ntate-moholo le nkhono.

01:20:13.827 --> 01:20:19.803
Na le hona ho tla etsahala? Ke motlae,
ehlile, empa nnete ke hore hoo ho etsa hore taba

01:20:19.803 --> 01:20:22.758
ena kaofela e se ke ea nkoa e le ea botho.

01:20:22.758 --> 01:20:23.797
E, hantle-ntle.

01:20:23.797 --> 01:20:28.423
Ha e sa le botho ebile ha ho na
seriti – haholoholo bakeng sa ngoana.

01:20:28.423 --> 01:20:32.475
Le bana ba na le seriti. Ditokelo tsa
bona le tsona di tlameha ho sireletswa.

01:20:32.475 --> 01:20:41.722
Mme bana ba lokela ho nkuoa e le batho ba molaong,
eseng e le lintho tse ka nkuoang feela tsa isoa.

01:20:41.722 --> 01:20:43.813
E! Kea leboha ka ho hlalosa.

01:20:43.813 --> 01:20:48.780
Kahoo ho bile le ntlha e le 'ngoe e ntle tabeng ena kaofela.

01:20:48.780 --> 01:20:50.926
Eo e ne e le Univesithi ea Bielefeld.

01:20:50.926 --> 01:20:58.608
O entse phuputso e pharaletseng ka Kinsey,
Kentler le Co. mme a fumana hore e ne e le tlhekefetso

01:20:58.608 --> 01:21:02.503
ea bana, tlhekefetso ea thobalano, hohle-hohle.

01:21:02.503 --> 01:21:09.746
Ena e ne e le mokhatlo oa botlokotsebe bo boholo o seng o hasane
setsing sohle sa koetliso, moo ho neng ho koetlisetsoa

01:21:09.746 --> 01:21:16.956
litsebi tsa kelello tsa tsa kahisano, litsebi tsa
kelello, lihlooho tsa likolo le litsebi tse ling tse tšoanang.

01:21:16.956 --> 01:21:20.006
Mme sena se ntse se tswela pele. Kahoo
se ntse se etsahala kgafetsa le ho feta.

01:21:20.006 --> 01:21:27.647
Ka hona, ha ho makatse ho bala dimakasineng tsa botsoali kajeno
hore ke ntho e tlwaelehileng hore bana ba tshwarwe le ho

01:21:27.647 --> 01:21:34.719
ruteha ka tsela eo e leng tlameho hore ba be le dikamano tsa
thobalano pakeng tsa dilemo tse tsheletseng le tse robong.

01:21:34.719 --> 01:21:42.323
Le ho amana 'meleng le ho ipatela ho theha likonopo tse
nyenyane tse mofuthu hohle moo bana ba ka ikhutselang teng.

01:21:42.323 --> 01:21:46.902
Hoo kaofela ke ho thusa baetsadibe feela.

01:21:46.902 --> 01:21:54.325
Ee... tshwarelo, ha ke na ditaba tse monate.

01:21:54.325 --> 01:21:58.309
Tsena ke maiphihlelo a mabe feela ao ke bileng le ona moo.

01:21:58.309 --> 01:22:07.895
Ke loetse hoo e ka bang bophelo bohle ba ka hore
tlhekefetso ea thobalano khahlanong le bana e be tlolo ea molao.

01:22:07.895 --> 01:22:13.680
Mme ka 2021, kamora dilemo tsa boemo-thata, sena se qetelletse,
qetelletse, qetelletse se ile sa phethahatsoa Jeremane

01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.921
hoo jwale se nkuwang e le tlolo ya molao ya botlokotsebe.

01:22:16.921 --> 01:22:23.400
Mme seo se ile sa dula se le jwalo ho tloha ka 2021 ho fihlela
ka 2024. Yaba Monghadi Buschmann, jwalo ka ha a ne a bitswa ka

01:22:23.400 --> 01:22:26.794
nako eo, Letona la Toka la Liberal, o ile a tla mme a se fetola.

01:22:26.794 --> 01:22:29.000
Jwale ke tlolo ya molao hape.

01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.065
Ka hona, le eo ha se tlholo e kgolo.

01:22:32.065 --> 01:22:40.905
Ka maikutlo a ka, ditlhaloso tsohle tse fanoeng ke
Lekala la Toka ho lokafatsa hore na ke hobaneng ha tlolo

01:22:40.905 --> 01:22:45.527
ena ya molao e hlakotswe, ke bopaki bo qosang ka matla.

01:22:45.527 --> 01:22:47.576
E, ruri ke sesupo se hlonameng sa boemo ba litaba.

01:22:47.576 --> 01:22:54.060
Ke leboha haholo ka boinehelo ba lona ba ho thusa bana, mme
ka hodima tsohle, ka ho hlahisa ditaba tsena phatlalatsa.

01:22:54.060 --> 01:22:56.645
Hoo ke habohlokwa haholo.

01:22:56.645 --> 01:22:59.006
Seo se tlameha ho etswa.

01:22:59.006 --> 01:23:03.982
Kea leboha ka ho ipha nako, leha o le tseleng hona joale.

01:23:03.982 --> 01:23:09.165
Lipolelo tsa lona li re thusitse haholo ho
fumana setšoantšo se hlakileng sa taba ena.

01:23:09.165 --> 01:23:13.065
Re o lakaletsa mahlohonolo mesebetsing ea hau ea
kamoso, ho kenyeletsa le ho phomola mosebetsing ha hao.

01:23:13.065 --> 01:23:15.379
O ntse o falimehile!

01:23:15.379 --> 01:23:18.420
Re a leboha ka mosebetsi oa lona o motle oa thuto. Rea le rata!

01:23:18.420 --> 01:23:22.492
Kea leboha.

01:23:26.397 --> 01:23:28.462
Ke labalabela ho ba le lona nakong e tlang! Le 'na ke tla tla!

01:23:28.462 --> 01:23:33.784
E, o amohelehile kamehla!

01:23:33.784 --> 01:23:40.161
Jwale re retelehela ho molwantsi ya se nang tshabo ka
ho tshwana, ya itlammeng ho lwantsha ho koetela bana,

01:23:40.161 --> 01:23:45.315
dikgoka tsa ditlwaelo le kgwebo ya bana. Bapala sekotwana!

01:23:45.315 --> 01:23:52.006
Sabine McNeill o ithutetse mahlale a
dikhomphutha le dipalo mme a sebetsa CERN ka dilemo tse 15.

01:23:52.006 --> 01:23:57.030
Ka mor'a moo, o ile a sebetsa e le mohlophisi
oa liketsahalo, moqapi oa software, mohatisi

01:23:57.030 --> 01:24:00.150
oa marang-rang le moetsi oa bonono ba lipalo.

01:24:00.150 --> 01:24:07.561
Londoneng, o ile a ithaopela e le Motsoalle oa McKenzie,
e leng se lekanang le moeletsi oa molao ea seng setsebi.

01:24:07.561 --> 01:24:13.293
Ha a ntse a etsa joalo, o ile a kopana le bahlaselwa ba
tlhekefetso ya ditlwaelo le ba tlhokomelo ya malapa a mang, ba

01:24:13.293 --> 01:24:17.297
neng ba lemetswe ho ena le ho thusiwa ke tsamaiso ya toka.

01:24:17.297 --> 01:24:21.184
Sabine McNeill o ile a qala ho
phatlalatsa linyeoe tsena inthaneteng.

01:24:21.184 --> 01:24:27.441
O ile a sebetsa a sa lapele molemong oa bana ba
neng ba amohiloe ho batsoali ba bona ke mmuso, a

01:24:27.441 --> 01:24:31.064
bile a phahamisetsa taba ena Palamenteng ea Europe.

01:24:31.064 --> 01:24:36.453
Ke ka lebaka leo re leng mona kajeno. Re mona ho kopa thuso.

01:24:36.453 --> 01:24:44.662
Ho na le bana ba hoeletsang hore ba utluoe. Haeba u
sa utloe bana bana ba hoeletsa, ke mang ea tla utloa?

01:24:44.662 --> 01:24:49.102
Ka kakaretso, o sebetsane le linyeoe
tse ka bang 50 tsa ho koetela bana.

01:24:49.102 --> 01:24:53.958
E tsebahalang ka ho fetisisa e bile "Nyeoe ea
Hampstead", eo ho eona a phatlalalitseng livideo tse nang le

01:24:53.958 --> 01:24:57.414
lipolelo tsa bopaki tse tsoang ho bana Alisa le Gabriel.

01:24:57.414 --> 01:25:03.034
Ho eona, bana ba pakiile hore ntate oa bona o
ne a hlophisitse sehlopha sa bosatane se neng

01:25:03.034 --> 01:25:06.914
se tloaetse ho hlekefetsa le ho bolaea bana.

01:25:06.914 --> 01:25:12.358
Ba ile ba boela ba hlalosa kamoo ntate wa bona a
neng a ba tataisa matsoho ha ba ntse ba bolaya masea.

01:25:12.358 --> 01:25:16.031
"Ntate wa rona o a re ruta hobane re sa kgone ho e etsa."

01:25:16.031 --> 01:25:18.984
Ha re matla ka ho lekana ho kgaola hlooho ya lesea.

01:25:18.984 --> 01:25:23.706
O tlameha feela ho tshwara thipa le ho beha
letsoho la hae hodima la rona le ho re thusa ho kgaola

01:25:23.706 --> 01:25:26.188
hlooho ya lesea, hobane o ntse a ithuta ho e etsa.

01:25:26.188 --> 01:25:28.518
O re ruta nna le Gabriel.

01:25:28.518 --> 01:25:35.715
Leha ho na le lipolelo tsena, ntate ha a ka a ahlolwa ke
lekgotla; ho ena le hoo, lekgotla le ile la amoha mme

01:25:35.715 --> 01:25:40.678
bana mme la fa ntate tokelo ya ho ba hlokomela a le mong.

01:25:40.678 --> 01:25:47.096
Hamorao, moahlodi yona eo o ile a boela a etsa bonnete ba
hore ntate ya qositsweng ka tlhekefetso nyeoeng ya tlhekefetso

01:25:47.096 --> 01:25:50.789
ya Scottish ya Hollie Greig ha a ka a ahlolwa molato.

01:25:50.789 --> 01:25:56.930
Leha ho le jwalo, ho ne ho ena le dikamano le nyeoe ya
Hampstead, eseng feela le moahlodi, empa hape le le baetsadibe.

01:25:56.930 --> 01:26:02.378
Le kamorao ho kahlolo ea Hampstead, Sabine o ile a
tswela pele ho sebetsa, a bokella ditekanyetso tse sekete

01:26:02.378 --> 01:26:05.906
tse leshome bakeng sa dipetisjone le ho ngola bopaki.

01:26:05.906 --> 01:26:12.789
O boetse a etsa hore lenane le hlophisitsweng ke
mmae, le nang le baetsadibe ba 175, le fumanehe habonolo.

01:26:12.789 --> 01:26:18.630
Sena se ile sa beha baetsadibe boemong bo thata,
mme qetellong ba ile ba mo qosa ka ditlolo tsa molao.

01:26:18.630 --> 01:26:26.034
Ha a le dilemo di 73, o ile a ahlolelwa kahlolo e
telele ya dilemo tse robong teronkong mme a lelekoa

01:26:26.034 --> 01:26:29.773
naheng ya Jeremane kamora dilemo tse ka bang nne.

01:26:29.773 --> 01:26:32.602
Liwebsaete tse ngata tsa bona li koetsoe.

01:26:32.602 --> 01:26:37.258
Ho sa tsotellehe tlhekefetso eo a ileng a e
hlaola chankaneng, Sabine ha a ka a inehela:

01:26:37.258 --> 01:26:40.844
O ntse a tsoela pele ho tšehetsa
bafani-'moho le eena ba letšolo ntoeng e khahlanong le

01:26:40.844 --> 01:26:44.117
tlhekefetso ea bana le ho rekisoa ha bana.

01:26:49.875 --> 01:26:52.680
Lumela, lumela Sabine. Ke o kopa!

01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:57.749
Lumela, Lois. Kea leboha ha o mpulela tsebe.

01:26:57.749 --> 01:27:03.399
E, ke tlotla e kaakang ho ba le uena u
bua kopanong ea bo-22 ea AZK kajeno!

01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:10.576
U tsamaile le bahlaseluoa ba bangata ba tlhekefetso ea
litokomane tsa bosatane, hape u ba bontšitse lifilimi tsa ka.

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U kopane le bo-'mè ba teronkong bao
bana ba bona ba neng ba amohuoe bona.

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U ile oa loanela bo-'mè bana, 'me u ntse u tsoela pele
ho ba loanela joaloka lehoetla bakeng sa bona le bana.

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Ka kopo, re bolelle ka bokgutshwane ka maiphihlelo a hao!

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E, ho thata hobane ha ke tsebe hore ke qale kae.

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Mahlatsipa a ka a pele, ao ke neng ke kopane le
ona, a ne a se na letho le amanang le bana ho hang.

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Ho ne ho e-na le banna ka Ntlong ea
Barena moo ke neng ke hlophisa liketsahalo.

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Pele ba tlile bahlaseluoa ba libanka le makhotla.

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Mme ka kakaretso basadi ba ile ba tla, mme yaba bana bana
ba tla, ba tlaleha se sebe ka ho fetisisa ho feta tsohle.

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Mme pele ho moo, tsohle di ne di se di le mpe haholo.

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Nke ke ka lebala kamoo mosebeletsi oa sechaba oa Mo-Romania a
ileng a bolela hore sena ha se joalo ka

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lelapa la Mapotokisi le nang le bana ba bahlano, e
leng ntho e neng e ka mo tšoarela, ha re re.

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Mme seo se ne se le maswabi haholo, se le
bothoto haholo, ebile se le boikaketsi haholo.

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Ha o ka ke wa shebella feela o sa etse letho.

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Haeba ke ne ke lokela ho u phetela ka liphihlelo tsa ka,
mohlomong ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa e bile moqoqo oo

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ke bileng le oona le mosali ea neng a tšoere seo ho
thoeng ke 'kopano ea salisa hantle' le lesea la hae.

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Mme yaba o ba le kopano eo ho neng ho thwe
ke ya ho qetela, pele ho moo ho nkelwa yena.

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Ke boikaketsi bo fetisisang.

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Mme ke papadi ya boiketsiso, e a nyonyeha.

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Ee, ha ke tsebe le hore na ke sebedise mantswe afe.

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Hantle, ho thata ho bolela hore na ke ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa.

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Litlolo tsa molao li lokela ho
aroloa joang? Ho latela palo ea bana?

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Bohalafalo bo etsetsoang bana kapa bo etsetsoang batsoali?

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Phihlelo e tshabehang ka ho fetisisa ya bophelo ba tjhankeng, moo
ba bitswang mapolesa a tjhankeng ba hlekefetsang matla a bona

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feela hobane ba na le monyetla wa ho etsa jwalo, mme ba etsa
ntho e nngwe le e nngwe ntle le seo ba lokelang ho se etsa

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le seo ba se rutilweng le ho se batlwa ho bona, ka kgopolo.

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Ho hobe hakaalo hoo o ka hlileng o ka e toloka, wa
e tshwarela le ho e hlalosa kelellong ya hao feela.

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U boetse u mpoleletse ka 'mè ea neng a amohuoe
bana ba bane, 'me oa bohlano a lokolloa chankaneng.

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Hantle, ke ile ka mmona ha a le moimana teronkong.

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Hang ha a lokolotsoe, o ile a nngolla – hobane
ho na le tshebeletso ena ya 'Email-a-Prisoner'

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– hore le bona ba ile ba mo amoha lesea la hae.

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Le wa bohlano hape? Ee. Ao, ao, ao.

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Ho fihlela nyeoeng ea Hampstead, nyeoe e mpe ka ho fetisisa e
ne e le ea lelapa la Ma-Nigeria le nang le bana ba supileng.

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Bana bohle ba ile ba nkelwa.

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Ka mekhoa ena ea bothoto e etsahalang makhotleng
a bitsoang a malapa, a bolokoang e le sephiri.

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Kahoo boralitaba ha ba dumellwe ho kena.
Mme ho bile jwalo ka dilemo tse mashome.

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Mme wa bosupa o tswetswe tjhankaneng.

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Mme hape ke ne ke buisana le mme wa Moamerika ya neng a le
seleng e bapileng, eo ngwana wa hae a neng a setse London.

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Mme kamora hore e romelwe kantle,
leha ke ne ke thusitse ka hohle.

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Mosali oa Moamerika o ile a ba le phihlelo e
tšoanang hantle le ea mosali oa Mo-Nigeria.

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Mme jwalo ka ha mosebeletsi wa setjhaba a
boletse: "E, ha o sa tla hlola o mmona hape."

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Mme ntho e "kgolo" e ne e le hore moradi wa letsibolo lelapeng o
ne a hlekefetswa ke mora wa lelapa leo a neng a hodiswa ho lona.

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Morali ea latelang o ile a bolella 'm'ae hore o
ne a lula a isoa liketsahalong tse belaetsang

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mantsiboea moo ho neng ho e-na le banna feela.

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Mme mora e monyane a botsa mmae hore na pedofilia ke eng.

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Mme ho ile ha etsahala'ng ka mor'a moo, ha o ne o le chankaneng?

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Hantle, ha ke ne ke le chankaneng, ke phatlalalitse boipiletso.

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Mme moo ke ne ke na le litlhaku tse 16,000 le ho feta.

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Hape ke bile le bashebelli ba fetang 100,000
webosaeteng ea ka, eo ke neng ke e thehetse bana.

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Ke thehile maqephe a marang-rang a
ikemetseng bakeng sa maemo a mabe ka ho fetisisa.

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Mme ke kamoo ke ileng ka tsebahala kateng.

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Mme ena ke mokotla o nang le dikarete tsohle tseo ke di
fumaneng, tseo ke di sebedisitseng ho kgabisa lebota la sela.

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Ha ke a ka ka atleha ho etsa sekhafo ka sona.

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Empa ehlile ke ne ke sa batle ho di lahla.

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Oh, Sabine, re thabile haholo hore ebe o amohetse
khothatso ena, mme o tla tswelapele ho e amohela.

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Ho ile ha ntshosa haholo ho bona ka
mahlo kamoo lesea le amohuwang kateng.

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Ke tla re bontša seo ka bokhutšoanyane.

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"Kahoo, o na le khetho e le 'ngoe feela hona joale."

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O tlameha ho mo nehelana ho mosebeletsi oa thuso ea pele
ea bongaka, ebe o ka tsoela pele ka thabo leetong la

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hao le metsoalle le ba lelapa ba hao ba letetseng kantle.

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Kapa ke tla e nka ho wena mme o tla kena tjhankaneng.

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O tlameha ho etsa qeto ena. O tlameha ho e etsa hona joale.

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"Nke ke ka mo tlohela."

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"Ho lokile. Ho lokile."

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Ka kopo mo tlohele hore a se ke a utlwa
bohloko, ho lokile? Tloo mona motsotswana. Ho lokile.

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"Ke mo tlohetse a tsamaya. Ke mo tlohetse a tsamaya!"

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"Che, o tla kena chankaneng."

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"Ke ne ke batla feela ho bolela hore nke ke ka
kgona, empa ke ile ka mo dumella leha ho le jwalo."

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"Bea matsoho a hao ka morao."

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"Ba koetse lemati la ambulense. Seo e
bile ntho ea ho qetela eo ke e boneng."

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"Oa koetela setloholo sa ka."

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"Tjhe, kena ka koloing. Kena ka koloing. Tsohle di lokile."

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"Ke batla ho re salang hantle." "Ho lokile. Kena ka koloing."

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"Ke batla ho re salang hantle." "O mpa o e mpefatsa feela."

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Ngoana e mong le e mong o bohlokoa ho
hangata ho fihla ho milione ea liponto ho mmuso.

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Kahoo ke ntate-moholo oa lesea.

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Ho hobe haholo ebile ho tshabeha.

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Ke bolela hore, ba mpa ba etsa
mosebetsi oa bona feela, na ha ho joalo?

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Ho tshwana le nakong ya Bonazi, ka hohle kamoo ho ka hlaloswang.

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Ba mpa ba phetha litaelo feela 'me ba fetohile joaloka liroboto.

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Ha ba na maikutlo a bona.

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Ha ba sa tseba se nepahetseng.

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E. E tswa hodimo. Khoebo ena yohle
ya thekiso ya bana e tshehetswa.

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Na le uena u ka netefatsa seo?

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E, e, kahoo ho tloha kaholimo, ho sa
tsotellehe hore na ke ketsahalo efe.

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Basebeletsi ba tsa boiketlo ba sechaba ba ke
ke ba etsa mosebetsi oa bona ntle le mapolesa.

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Mapolesa a ke ke a kgona ho e etsa ntle le makgotla a dinyewe.

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E. U paki e bileng teng ha sena sohle se etsahala.

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U ka bua jwalo.

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E, re rata ho leboha haholo
boitlamo ba lona ho bo-'mè bana le bana.

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Re thehile sethala, Vetopedia, moo bo-'mè bana ba ka ingolisang
le ho tlaleha ho nkeloa ha bana ba bona tlhokomelong ea bona.

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E le hore le rona re ka ba le kutloisiso
e betere ea tsamaiso e ka morao ho eona.

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Re ka thaba haholo, Sabine ea ratehang, ha o
ka phatlalatsa taba ena le ho tsebisa batho

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bao le tsebanang ka har'a marang-rang a hao.

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E, seo o se etsang se a makatsa. Se
setle haholo-holo. Kea leboha ka ho mpulela.

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E, ke leboha haholo boitlamo ba lona ho bo-'mè
bana le bana! Hoo ke ntho e babatsehang ruri.

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Ruri re tla phatlalatsa lentswe, Sabine
McNiell ya ratehang. Mme re a o rata.

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Kea leboha. Le nna. Ke na le tlhompho e
kholo bakeng sa sohle seo u se entseng le seo u

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ntseng u tsoela pele ho se etsa. Le kananelo.

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E. Le maemong a tšoanang hantle le rona. Ha
le tšabe ebile le sebete haholo. Hoa makatsa.

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Na ho na le letho le leng leo u ka ratang ho le
bolella bamameli ba AZK? Leha e le eng kapa eng?

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Kahoo, AZK e mabapi le thibelo ea litaba.

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Mme ke tshepa feela hore ha ho motho e mong ya tla ba le se
ntohantseng ka mosebetsi wohle oo ke o behileng inthaneteng.

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Seo se bakile tshenyo e kgolo haholo ho nna le ho bahlaselwa.

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Thibelo e mpa feela e isitsoe boemong ba dijithale.

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Mme ho hobe, ho hobe, ho hobe, se etsahalang.

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Empa ka kakaretso, ho ke ke ha kgoneha ho nahana.

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Motho ha a batle ho tloaelana le maikutlo le maiphihlelo a mabe.

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E, maqephe a hao 'ohle a lapeng a ile a tlosoa feela inthaneteng.

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Mosebetsi oohle wa hao bakeng sa bahlaselwa o sentsoe
mme o hlakotswe. Hoo ho hobe haholo. Ka bomadimabe, e.

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Empa taba e tla tsoa phatlalatsa, e
tla tsebahala, Sabine ea ratehang.

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Mme AZK kaofela e tiisa sena. Na ha ho jwalo?

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E!

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Sabine o se a na le dilemo tse 81 mme
o sotlehile haholo bophelong ba hae.

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E ne e le ntho e ntle haholo hore ebe o
ile a kgona ho arolelana sena le rona.

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Mme seo se ile sa nkama haholo.

01:37:15.232 --> 01:37:22.966
Mme jwale re ka rata ho tswela pele ka ketsahalo ya
haufinyane e behilweng ho Vetopedia ke Corinne Ioli.

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Bana ba hae ba ile ba nkelwa ho yena. Qetela!

01:37:28.358 --> 01:37:33.296
Vetopedia e fa batho lentswe ha ba ntse ba thibetswa ho bua.

01:37:33.296 --> 01:37:37.090
Hangata ho ba tjena, haholoholo ha bana ba nkuoa tlhokomelong.

01:37:37.090 --> 01:37:42.607
Haholoholo bo-'mè ba se nang banna ka linako
tse ling ba sala ba tsielehile ke tsamaiso ea

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boahloli e ba amohileng bana ba bona ka likhoka.

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Ho latela lipalo-palo tsa semmuso, ka
karolelano bana ba 100 ba aroloa ho batsoali ba

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bona letsatsi le leng le le leng Jeremane feela.

01:37:54.017 --> 01:37:58.214
Vetopedia joale e u fa monyetla oa ho
etsa hore ketsahalo ea hau e tsebahale.

01:37:58.214 --> 01:38:03.686
'Mè e mong ea ileng a sebelisa monyetla ona ke Corinne Ioli.

01:38:03.686 --> 01:38:05.787
Corinne Ioli ke Mo-Switzerland.

01:38:05.787 --> 01:38:11.265
Ka 2019, barali ba hae ba babedi ba
ile ba nkelwa ho yena ka dikgoka.

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Batho ba robeli, ho kenyeleditswe mapolesa le basebetsi ba KESB
, ba ile ba thuba folete ya hae mme ba isa bana lehaeng la bana.

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Ntate wa ngwana, eo Corinne Ioli a
arohaneng le yena, o mo qositse.

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Mabaka e ne e le liqoso tse se nang motheo,
tseo kaofela li ileng tsa hanyetsoa ke litsebi.

01:38:31.326 --> 01:38:37.793
Leha ho le jwalo, ho fihlela jwale, boahlodi ba Switzerland bo
hlokomolohile bopaki bo hlakileng dinyeweng

01:38:37.793 --> 01:38:44.678
tsohle mme bo tshehetsa ntate wa ngwana, ya
lekang ho qobella mme ka ditsheko tsa botlokotsebe.

01:38:44.678 --> 01:38:52.890
Sena se ile sa etelletsoa pele ke phetoho boitshwarong ba banana
ho ntate wa bona ha ba ne ba ntse ba dula le yena le mmae.

01:38:52.890 --> 01:38:57.466
Ba ile ba hana ho amana le bona ka 'mele
mme ba itšireletsa khahlanong le maiteko a ho

01:38:57.466 --> 01:39:00.657
ba atamela ka ho hohla, ho loma le ho otla.

01:39:00.657 --> 01:39:04.537
Ka nako e tšoanang, ntate oa ngoana o ile a
qala ho ba le mekhoa ea ho hlohlona bana.

01:39:04.537 --> 01:39:08.966
Diketsahalo tsena di ile tsa
susumetsa Corinne Ioli ho arohana le ntatae.

01:39:08.966 --> 01:39:13.695
Eaba o mo tlaleha ka ho beha bophelo bo botle ba ngoana kotsing.

01:39:13.695 --> 01:39:19.320
Ha ho motho ea ileng a sebetsana le mekhoa
e tšosang ea ntate kapa a etsa lipatlisiso.

01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:25.345
Ho fapana le hoo. Mohlokomeli ntlong eo bana ba neng
ba dula ho yona o ile a fana ka maikutlo a latelang:

01:39:25.345 --> 01:39:31.382
"Leha ntate a hlekefetsa bana ba hae, ba ntse ba mo
rata" le "banna ba bangata ba na le litakatso tsa

01:39:31.382 --> 01:39:35.622
thobalano le bana, empa ke ka seoelo ba li phelang."

01:39:35.622 --> 01:39:40.440
Mohlokomeli enoa joale ke molekane e mocha oa ntate.

01:39:40.440 --> 01:39:47.793
Ka 2021, o ile a fumana thibelo e feletseng
kgahlanong le mmae, e ntseng e sebetsa ho fihlela kajeno.

01:39:47.793 --> 01:39:54.503
Moahlodi o ile a nka tlhokomelo ho
mme, mme a e fetisetsa ho ntate.

01:39:54.503 --> 01:40:01.508
Ka Loetse 2024, ntate o ile a fallela Sweden le
molekane wa hae e motjha le banana ba babedi.

01:40:01.508 --> 01:40:05.319
Ho fihlela kajeno, Corinne Ioli o ntse
a lwela ditokelo tsa hae jwalo ka mme.

01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:12.055
E phahamisa tlhokomeliso le ho pepesa maqheka a
patiloeng ka morao ho ho koeteloa ha bana ho seng molaong.

01:40:12.055 --> 01:40:17.535
Tlhahisoleseding e eketsehileng e ka fumanwa
diwebsaeteng tsa bona

01:40:17.535 --> 01:40:23.945
www.kinder-zurueck-nach-hause.ch le www.MamaLoveCollection.com .

01:40:30.275 --> 01:40:32.949
Dumela, Corinne ea ratehang. Dumela, Lois ea ratehang.

01:40:32.949 --> 01:40:39.529
O tsielehile haholo ha o utlwa seo.
Ntho e jwalo e ka etsahala jwang?

01:40:39.529 --> 01:40:47.671
Maemo a jwalo a bitswang a kgokgontshang a
supa "Parental Alienation Syndrome", PAS.

01:40:47.671 --> 01:40:53.222
PAS e thehilwe ke Richard Gardner, eo
le yena e neng e le moqhekelli wa bana.

01:40:53.222 --> 01:41:01.720
PAS e bolela hore haeba ngoana a hana ntatae ha
batsoali ba arohane le/kapa a tlaleha tlhekefetso ea

01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:07.419
thobalano e entsoeng ke ntatae, PAS e re ngoana oa thetsa.

01:41:07.419 --> 01:41:10.423
'Mè o ne a e laotse hore e be joalo.

01:41:10.423 --> 01:41:17.240
Kamano pakeng tsa 'mè le ngoana e ne e le haufi haholo, hoo ho
neng ho batla ho ba boiphelisano, ka hona, ngoana o

01:41:17.240 --> 01:41:24.902
ile a tlameha ho nkeloa tlhokomelong ea 'mè, a isoa
ho ntate, 'me likamano tsa hae le 'mè tsa kgaolwa.

01:41:24.902 --> 01:41:29.225
Nyeoe ea rona e na le likarolo tsohle tsa PAS. Sehlooho
sa motho ea hlekefetsang bana ka thobalano ka sebopeho

01:41:29.225 --> 01:41:32.550
sa litoro tsa motho ea hlekefetsang bana ka thobalano.

01:41:32.550 --> 01:41:41.629
Leha ho le jwalo, PAS e boetse e sebediswa ha ho na le
bopaki bo ke keng ba ganetswa ba peto ya ngwana ke ntatae.

01:41:41.629 --> 01:41:48.084
Ho bohlokwa ho hlokomela hore boholo ba peto ya bana bo tshabeha.

01:41:48.084 --> 01:41:54.697
Haholoholo maemong a lelapa, ke
hore, khafetsa, ka lilemo tse ngata.

01:41:54.697 --> 01:42:03.834
Re boetse re tseba hore ho tsoa liqosong tse sekete tsa
tlhekefetso ea bana, ke tse peli feela tse iqapetsoeng.

01:42:03.834 --> 01:42:07.956
Eo e ne e le phuputso e entsoeng ke Lekala la Toka la Fora.

01:42:07.956 --> 01:42:15.942
Tšōmo ea hore bo-'mè ba iqapela tlhekefetso ke
leqheka le hlakileng la ho sireletsa bafetoleli.

01:42:15.942 --> 01:42:23.654
Ah, ho lokile. Joale o ka re PAS ke mofuta o
itseng oa thebe e sireletsang batšoaruoa ba bana?

01:42:23.654 --> 01:42:25.894
Hantle-ntle, ke hona.

01:42:25.894 --> 01:42:34.537
Bo-'mè le bana ba hlahisoa e le mashano, ba khutsisoa,
'me re hohelletsoa lerabeng la litaba tsa motho ka mong.

01:42:34.537 --> 01:42:37.512
Ha re mehlala e ikemetseng ho hang.

01:42:37.512 --> 01:42:42.422
Re tloaelane le ho sebediswa ha dikarolo tsa
mongolo le mantswe a sehlooho a tshwanang

01:42:42.422 --> 01:42:46.010
matjhabeng ditlalehong tsa ditsebi le diqatong.

01:42:46.010 --> 01:42:55.174
Mme re boetse re bona tshoso e tshwanang ya semmuso matjhabeng
kgahlanong le bo-mme ba lekang ho sireletsa bana ba bona.

01:42:55.174 --> 01:43:01.230
PAS le ho amohuoa hona ho seng molaong ha bana
ho baka ts'abo e matla ho bana le bo-'mè, hoo

01:43:01.230 --> 01:43:05.406
ho ka fihlang le ho bakeng karohano ea kelello.

01:43:05.406 --> 01:43:13.501
Eka seo se ne se sa lekana, bo-'mè ba lekang ho sireletsa bana ba
bona ba hlaheloa ke pherekano e sehlōhō

01:43:13.501 --> 01:43:21.690
maemong 'ohle, mosebetsing, sechabeng, le
licheleteng, esita le ho fihlela ho ba sieo ka mahae.

01:43:21.690 --> 01:43:27.821
Ke hobaneng ha baetsadibe ba qoba hantle
jwaloka ha diabolosi a qoba metsi a halalelang?

01:43:27.821 --> 01:43:35.008
Sa pele, ho na le bana ba nang le likamano tse ntle le bo-'mè ba
bona 'me ba ba bolella ka tlhekefetso efe kapa efe eo ba e

01:43:35.008 --> 01:43:41.142
hlokofalitsoeng, 'me sa bobeli, ehlile, ho na le bo-'mè
ba phelang kamorao ho ho amohuoa hona ha bana, ba

01:43:41.142 --> 01:43:46.718
ikopanya le ba bang 'me ba bua ka taba ena. Pele ho sechaba.

01:43:46.718 --> 01:43:52.065
Ho na le kgopamo e sebelebele e etsahalang mona.

01:43:52.065 --> 01:43:54.765
Mme re tlameha ho fetola seo hape.

01:43:54.765 --> 01:43:57.925
Ba batla re khutsise, kahoo re bua.

01:43:57.925 --> 01:44:02.886
Ba batla hore re wele, kahoo a re se
ke ra ba dumella hore ba re dihle.

01:44:02.886 --> 01:44:07.690
E. E ntle haholo, haholo.

01:44:07.690 --> 01:44:11.814
Leha ho le jwalo, hoo ho qholotsa haholo.

01:44:11.814 --> 01:44:17.777
Mme e mabapi le ho iphahamisa ka
matla a hao letsatsi le letsatsi.

01:44:17.777 --> 01:44:20.538
Ehlile, ho rata bana ho thusa ka sena.

01:44:20.538 --> 01:44:24.806
Mme thuso e a fihla. Mme re itshetlehile ka thuso ena.

01:44:24.806 --> 01:44:29.618
E, ke leboha haholo. E re ke
akareletse seo ke se utloisisang hajoale:

01:44:29.618 --> 01:44:35.590
PAS ke mohopolo o iqapetsoeng o
etselitsoeng ho bonahala o na le bonnete ba saense.

01:44:35.590 --> 01:44:43.949
E thehiloe ke molotsana ho senya seriti sa bahlaseluoa
e le ho itšireletsa le ho sireletsa melotsana e meng.

01:44:43.949 --> 01:44:49.262
Seo se utlwahala se tlwaelehile haholo ho nna, hobane re tseba
ntho e tshwanang ho tswa ho False Memory Syndrome Foundation.

01:44:49.262 --> 01:44:52.480
Kahoo, taba ka mehopolo ea bohata ke
hore ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe e fosahetse.

01:44:52.480 --> 01:44:56.527
Na ho na le kamano pakeng tsa PAS le FMS (False Memory Syndrome)?

01:44:56.527 --> 01:45:03.211
Ehlile. Richard Gardner, jwalo ka ha ke boletse,
moqapi wa PAS, e ne e le moqhekelli wa bana ka boyena.

01:45:03.211 --> 01:45:09.341
Batsoali ba thehileng Mokgatlo wa False Memory
Syndrome e ne e le batsoali ba neng ba

01:45:09.341 --> 01:45:14.218
qositswe ke bana ba bona ka tlhekefetso ya ditokomane.

01:45:14.218 --> 01:45:19.140
Ho na le tšebelisano e pharalletseng
lipakeng tsa lihlooho tsena tse peli.

01:45:19.140 --> 01:45:28.209
Mme re tseba ka diketsahalo tsa lapeng le kantle ho naha tsa ho
koetela bana ho seng molaong ho latelang PAS, moo bana ba amohwang

01:45:28.209 --> 01:45:37.638
bo-m'a bona, ba nehelwa ho bo-ntate ba bona, mme bo-ntate ba
bona ba ba isa meketeng ena ya ditumelo ebe ba hlokofatswa moo.

01:45:37.638 --> 01:45:45.147
Kahoo Richard Gardner, mothehi, jwale o hlokahetse,
mme Motheo wa False Memory Syndrome o qhalantswe.

01:45:45.147 --> 01:45:50.532
Leha ho le jwalo, ba ntse ba tswela pele ho laola
dinyatso tsena mabapi le tlolo ya molao ya

01:45:50.532 --> 01:45:54.010
bophedi le tlhekefetso ya ditokomane ho fihlela kajeno.

01:45:54.010 --> 01:45:59.175
Ho tla jwang hore e ka tswela pele ka manganga hakaale?

01:45:59.175 --> 01:46:03.472
PAS e batla ho thibela litlōlo tsa molao tsa
bosesanyi hore li se ke tsa tsoa pepeneneng.

01:46:03.472 --> 01:46:10.581
Motheo oa False Memory Syndrome o batla ho
thibela marang-rang a bosatane hore a se ke a pepeseha.

01:46:10.581 --> 01:46:14.591
Re tobane le motheo oa bobe ka bo bona.

01:46:14.591 --> 01:46:20.515
Ha dikarolo tsena tse pedi di wela, tse ding kaofela
– ke hore, ditjhelete, meriana, mecha ya

01:46:20.515 --> 01:46:25.225
phatlalatso, thuto, jwalo-jwalo – di tla itlhophisa ka botsona.

01:46:25.225 --> 01:46:31.908
Ke ka lebaka leo re lokelang ho kopanya matla
le ho lwantsha botlokotsebe ba bafepi ba bana

01:46:31.908 --> 01:46:35.998
le ho utswitswa hona ho seng molaong ha bana.

01:46:35.998 --> 01:46:39.756
Ena ke hlooho e sa shweng ya Hydra.

01:46:39.756 --> 01:46:43.551
Hang ha a qetile hoo, o hlotsoe.

01:46:43.551 --> 01:46:47.845
E! Tlatsepa! Ho hotle haholo!

01:46:51.649 --> 01:46:55.528
Kea leboha ka ho ema moo joaloka lefika maqhubung.

01:46:55.528 --> 01:47:01.254
Kea leboha haholo, Lois. Mme re lebeletse AZK e monate haholo.

01:47:01.254 --> 01:47:12.829
Kea leboha, kea leboha. Hona joale nka rata ho fetisetsa ho
mosali ea bileng matla a sa thekeseleng ka lilemo tse 30.

01:47:12.829 --> 01:47:17.126
Mme enoa ke Andrea Christidis. Qala sekotwana!

01:47:17.126 --> 01:47:24.296
Ngaka Andrea Christidis ke mohale wa
nnete le toka – bakeng sa bana le batswadi.

01:47:24.296 --> 01:47:30.286
Ke setsebi sa kelello se sebetsanang le tsa kalafo ea
kelello, thuto, kelello ea methapo, botlokotsebe le

01:47:30.286 --> 01:47:34.269
bophatlalatsi ba molao, hape ke moalafi oa boitšoaro.

01:47:34.269 --> 01:47:39.582
Karolong ea hae e le setsebi se ikemetseng, o se a hlahlobile
linyeoe tse fetang 1,000 tsa malapa ho fumana

01:47:39.582 --> 01:47:45.158
hore na ho nkuoa ha bana ke liofisi tsa boiketlo
ba bacha ho ne ho na le lebaka le utloahalang.

01:47:45.158 --> 01:47:51.889
Ka ho etsa jwalo, o ile a pepesa ditlaleho tsa mekgwa e metle,
ditlhaku tse qapilweng, tshebediso e mpe ya datha, tlhahlobo

01:47:51.889 --> 01:47:59.539
ya mafu ya bohata, bobodu ba mmuso, direkoto tse qapilweng,
ho senya seriti sa motho le ho phatlalatsa dintlha tsa bohata.

01:47:59.539 --> 01:48:03.942
O ile a boela a kopana le
diketsahalo tsa pefo ya mekgwabo ya bosatane.

01:48:03.942 --> 01:48:09.826
Ka lebaka la boitlamo ba hae bo boholo, o ile a
tobana le litšitiso tse ngata ho tloha qalong.

01:48:09.826 --> 01:48:14.678
Ka mohlala, ho ile ha etswa diteko tsa ho
mo amoha ditlotla tsa hae tsa mosebetsi.

01:48:14.678 --> 01:48:21.614
O ile a qoswa ka liqoso tsa botlokotsebe tse fetang
mashome a robeli, empa kaofela ha tsona li ile tsa hlakolwa.

01:48:21.614 --> 01:48:28.197
Ngaka Christidis o senola hore tlhekefetso ea litheo
e ntse e etsahala mahaeng a tlhokomelo a Jeremane,

01:48:28.197 --> 01:48:32.039
ho hlekefetsa bana ka litsela tse ngata tse fapaneng.

01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:39.350
Ho lwantsha sena, o thehile mokgatlo wa "Axion Resist" ka 2024.

01:48:39.350 --> 01:48:46.510
E bopilwe ka ditsebi tse tswang makaleng a bongaka, thuto ya
kelello, thuto, molao, thuto ya botlokotsebe,

01:48:46.510 --> 01:48:54.879
baeloji le IT, mme e ikemiseditse ho sireletsa bana le
bophelo ba bona, hammoho le tokoloho le puso ya molao.

01:48:54.879 --> 01:49:01.657
Kopano ena e tla nolofatsa hore boitsebelo ba
mafapha a fapaneng bo kopanngwe ka katleho.

01:49:01.657 --> 01:49:07.381
Ngaka Andrea Christidis le monna wa hae le bona ba le ka hara
boto ya MWGFD (Bahlokomedi ba Bophelo bo Botle le Borasaense

01:49:07.381 --> 01:49:14.980
bakeng sa Bophelo bo Botle, Tokoloho le Demokerasi), mokgatlo o
inehetseng ho sebeletsa bophelo bo botle le boiketlo ba setjhaba.

01:49:28.116 --> 01:49:31.197
Lumela Andrea! Ke thabo e kgolo ho o fumana mona!

01:49:31.197 --> 01:49:37.430
Re ka thabela ho utlwa dintlha tse mmalwa ho tswa ho
wena mabapi le kgwebo ya bana le ho nka bana tlhokomelong.

01:49:37.430 --> 01:49:41.249
U setsebi se fetisisang lekaleng lena.

01:49:41.249 --> 01:49:44.392
Re ka thabela ho utlwa ka maiphihlelo a lona.

01:49:44.392 --> 01:49:50.286
Ho na le lipuo tsa hau tseo motho a ka li mamelang lihora
tse ngata. U na le lintho tse ngata tseo u ka li buang.

01:49:50.286 --> 01:49:56.669
Kajeno o na le metsotso e 20 feela, kahoo
ke o lakaletsa mahlohonolo ho e akaretsa!

01:49:56.669 --> 01:50:06.806
Kea leboha ka ho ntumella ho ba mona. Ke hlokometse hore
ke se ke ntse ke tseba ba bang ba libui, mme ke kile

01:50:06.806 --> 01:50:13.339
ka tshwara dikopano tsa dipuisano kapa dipuisano le bona.

01:50:13.339 --> 01:50:25.220
Ho ntse ho nkhathile ka botebo. Ke tlo qala ho bua ka
hore na mmuso o ka fihlela bana bana ba bangata joang.

01:50:25.220 --> 01:50:28.609
Mme ke tla qala ka dintlha tse mmalwa hanghang.

01:50:28.609 --> 01:50:34.492
Ntlha ea pele – kenyelletso:
Sefahleho se habeli sa tšireletso ea bana.

01:50:34.492 --> 01:50:38.760
Jeremane e nkuoa e le naha ea molao oa
motheo, sebaka se sireletsehileng bakeng sa bana.

01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:43.109
Empa nnete e taka setshwantsho se fapaneng ka ho felletseng.

01:50:43.109 --> 01:50:50.820
Qetellong ea 2023, ho ne ho e-na le bana ba ka bang 215,000
ba neng ba le tlhokomelong – matlong a tlhokomelo ea bana,

01:50:50.820 --> 01:50:55.855
malapeng a bahlokomeli kapa litsing tsa boiketlo ba bacha.

01:50:55.855 --> 01:51:04.602
Ka 2024, ho ne ho ka ba bana ba 190 ba neng ba
arohanngwa le batswadi ba bona letsatsi le letsatsi.

01:51:04.602 --> 01:51:12.476
Selemo se seng le se seng, ho ba le linyeoe tse ka bang 148,600
tse amanang le litaba tsa tlhokomelo le phihlello

01:51:12.476 --> 01:51:19.906
ea bana – bana ba ka bang 86,000 ba ameha 'me ba
kenella linyeoeng tseo tse nang le khang e matla.

01:51:19.906 --> 01:51:26.923
Ka nako e tšoanang, litšenyehelo tsa nyeoe ka
'ngoe lia nyoloha: ka 2016, li ne li se li feta

01:51:26.923 --> 01:51:32.341
€12,000 – kajeno li phahame haholo ho feta moo.

01:51:32.341 --> 01:51:39.933
Kakaretso ea litšenyehelo tsa selemo le selemo bakeng
sa tlhokomelo ea kantle ho lehae e fihla ho €8 bilione.

01:51:39.933 --> 01:51:43.299
Tšireletso ea bana esale e fetohile
khoebo ea boleng ba libilione tsa liponto.

01:51:43.299 --> 01:51:52.494
Empa ka morao ho ponahalo ena ho ipatile tlhekefetso ea
mekhatlo, lithahasello tsa moruo le ho hloleha ha sebopeho.

01:51:52.494 --> 01:52:01.304
Ntlha ea bobeli: Ngaka Reiner Fuellmich o fane
ka tlhahisoleseding e fihlang lefats'eng lohle.

01:52:01.304 --> 01:52:06.375
'Muelli enoa oa molao ea tsebahalang lefatšeng
ka bophara, Reiner Fuellmich, o ile a

01:52:06.375 --> 01:52:10.724
tsebahala ho batho ba limilione ka Komiti ea Corona.

01:52:10.724 --> 01:52:17.247
Morero oa hae: ho phahamisa tlhokomeliso ka
likhotsofatsong tsa lipolotiki le tsa sechaba.

01:52:17.247 --> 01:52:26.230
O boetse a tlaleha ka thekiso ea bana, tlhekefetso ea
thobalano litsing tsa sechaba le bobolu mebusong ea sechaba.

01:52:26.230 --> 01:52:37.843
Empa ha Fuellmich a batla ho fuputsa koluoa ea likhohola Phuleng
ea Ahr Komiting ea Corona – moo ho thoe ho fumanoe likhopolo tsa

01:52:37.843 --> 01:52:48.736
masea tse hohotsoeng, joalo ka ha baahi ba bangata ba tlalehile,
e leng sesupo sa tlhekefetso ea litšebetso tsa bohloriso

01:52:48.736 --> 01:52:55.360
– ho qala ntoa ea matla e atolohang hole ho feta Jeremane.

01:52:55.360 --> 01:53:05.839
Ntlha ena e boetse e lebisitse (jwalokaha ho se ho boletsoe
makgetlo a mmalwa kajeno) ho batho ba bang ba entseng qoso ena ba

01:53:05.839 --> 01:53:15.481
batlang ho etsa dipatlisiso – e seng Ngaka Reiner Fuellmich
feela, empa hape, ka mohlala, Max Eder, eo hona jwale a

01:53:15.481 --> 01:53:26.044
tshwerweng mme a eso qoswe, le eo ka nako eo a thehileng GSG 9 ,
eo e neng e le mafolofolo haholo sebakeng sena, le ba bang ba

01:53:26.044 --> 01:53:33.925
amanang le se bitsoang sehlopha sa Prinz-Reuß, ke
dumela e ne e le batho ba 26 – ba ntse ba le

01:53:33.925 --> 01:53:40.920
chankaneng le kajeno. Ba babedi ba bona ba se ba hlokahetse.

01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:48.392
Ka la 5 Loetse 2022, ho tla latela qoso e se nang
motheo ea botlokotsebe khahlanong le Ngaka Fuellmich.

01:53:48.392 --> 01:53:55.397
O hloleha, empa lekgotla la dinyewe le ntan'o mo qosa ka la lona.

01:53:55.397 --> 01:54:03.717
Mokhoa o tloaelehileng ho ba pepesang liphiri ba bangata – ba
botsang lipotso tse sa thabiseng ba iphumana ba se ba fuputsoa.

01:54:03.717 --> 01:54:08.611
Hamorao, Ngaka Reiner Fuellmich o
theha ICIC.law (https://icic.law/), e leng

01:54:08.611 --> 01:54:11.998
portal ea machaba ea tlhahisoleseling.

01:54:11.998 --> 01:54:20.327
Lipuisano tsa hae – mohlala le Calin Georgescu ka la
22 Tšitoe 2022 le Cathy O'Brien ka la 20 Phato 2023

01:54:20.327 --> 01:54:25.970
– li ile tsa fihlela bashebelli lefatšeng ka bophara.

01:54:25.970 --> 01:54:35.050
Jwalokaha Marcel Polte a se a hlalositse kajeno, Cathy O'Brien e
ne e le lehlatsipa la tlhekefetso ya ditokomane. O

01:54:35.050 --> 01:54:45.469
ile a boela a anngwa ke lenaneo lena la MKultra jwaloka
"mohlala wa teko" – ke kamoo nka e hlalosang kateng.

01:54:45.469 --> 01:54:53.982
Jwale ke fihla ntlheng ya boraro: Ketsahalo
ya tlhekefetso Berlin – Ha tsamaiso e hloleha.

01:54:53.982 --> 01:54:59.661
Khubung ya nyeoe ena ke moshanyana wa dilemo
tse nne ya bolellang mmae ka tlhekefetso ya

01:54:59.661 --> 01:55:03.496
molomo le ya ka morao e entsweng ke ntatae.

01:55:03.496 --> 01:55:10.618
Ngaka ea bana le lingaka tse ling Sepetleleng sa Charité
li tiisa belaello e matla ea tlhekefetso ea thobalano e

01:55:10.618 --> 01:55:14.712
ntseng e tsoela pele. Ho na le bopaki ba linepe le litlaleho.

01:55:14.712 --> 01:55:21.608
Ke se ke tlalehile ka sena selemong se
fetileng ka Tšitoe kopanong ea lipuisano Bavaria.

01:55:21.608 --> 01:55:27.530
O ntse o ka e shebella ho YouTube tlas'a "Axion Resist".

01:55:27.530 --> 01:55:33.379
Leha ho le jwalo, ho ya ka mme, 'muelli wa molao wa
mohlaselwa wa Berlin ha a ka a fetisetsa ditshwailo

01:55:33.379 --> 01:55:37.631
tsa bohlokwa tsa dipatlisiso lekgotleng la ditsheko.

01:55:37.631 --> 01:55:41.631
LKA ebe e koala lipatlisiso.

01:55:41.631 --> 01:55:52.012
Mabaka: "Tsohle li tlameha li tsoile
monahanong oa ngoana kapa li susumelitsoe ke 'mè."

01:55:52.012 --> 01:55:58.260
Lirekoto tsa molumo tsa lipotso li bontša
hore ho ne ho se na sesupo sa tšusumetso e

01:55:58.260 --> 01:56:03.300
tsoang ho 'mè. Ke na le lirekoto tsa molumo.

01:56:03.300 --> 01:56:11.527
Tshekatsheko e phethetsoe. Mmae ha a so bone ngwana wa
hae ka dilemo tse ngata. Mohlankana jwale o dilemo di 14.

01:56:11.527 --> 01:56:19.386
Lipaki li mpolelletse – ha ke khone ho netefatsa kapa
ho fuputsa sena – hore jwale moshanyana o lebelletsoe ho

01:56:19.386 --> 01:56:25.243
sebetsa e le ngwana wa bosodoma diterateng tsa Berlin.

01:56:25.243 --> 01:56:30.828
Ya bone: ho mpefatsa le tokelo ya molotsana.

01:56:30.828 --> 01:56:35.838
Moshanyana o ba le mathata a tebileng a
boitšoaro: boitšoaro bo amanang le thobalano, ho sitoa ho

01:56:35.838 --> 01:56:39.577
laola masepa le metsi, le mehopolo ea ho ipolaea.

01:56:39.577 --> 01:56:44.699
O kgothaletsa batho ba baholo ho etsa diketso
tsa thobalano mme a dula a pheta-pheta

01:56:44.699 --> 01:56:50.270
ditiragalo tsa tlhekefetso setsing sa bana le sekolong.

01:56:50.270 --> 01:56:54.847
Ho ne ho na le ditshisinyo tsa kalafo tse tswang ho
ditsebi tsa bongaka. Tsena di ile tsa hlokomolohuwa.

01:56:54.847 --> 01:57:02.752
Ntate o ile a mo hana, empa o ile a ntse a fuwa
tokelo e le 'ngoe ea ho hlokomela ngoana ka 2015.

01:57:02.752 --> 01:57:07.854
'Mè, joalokaha ke se ke boletse, o
lahleheloa ke khokahano eohle le ngoana.

01:57:07.854 --> 01:57:10.613
Ha a ka a dumellwa ho bona ngwana wa hae ka selemo kaofela.

01:57:10.613 --> 01:57:16.312
Eaba ka nakoana le ka ho fela-fela, mme
jwale ha a sa na kgokahano ka dilemo tse ngata.

01:57:16.312 --> 01:57:24.513
Ditlaleho tse mmalwa tsa mokga di tiisitse
tlhekefetso. Kaofela ha tsona di ile tsa hlokomolohuwa.

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Ka 2017 le 2018, ha ngoana a ne a se a qetile nako a phela
le ntatae, Ofisi ya Tlhokomelo ya Bacha ya Neukölln e ile ya

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tlaleha boitshwaro bo tebileng ba tsa thobalano ho ngoana.

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Moshanyana o ile a bua makgetlo a mmalwa, "Ke batla ho shwa."

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Ke hlahlobile lifaele tsohle tseo ke li fileng ke
lekhotla la lelapa, jj. Ha ho na bopaki bo bontšang

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hore 'mè o beha bophelo bo botle ba ngoana kotsing.

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Bohlano: Ho rarahana le tshireletso ya tsamaiso ya baetsadibe.

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'Mè o fumana hore Setsi sa Naha sa Bana ba Lahlehileng le ba
Sebedisitsweng hampe (NCMEC) – seo Uwe Kranz a neng a se se

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boletse – se ngodisitse tlaleho ya ditshwantsho tsa thobalano tsa
bana e amanang le nyeoe ena. E ngodisitswe

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Ofising ya Sepolesa sa Botlokotsebe ya Naha
(LKA), empa ha ho ya ileng a etsa dipatlisiso.

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Ho latela 'mè, Carsten Stahl, ea itlhahisang phatlalatsa e le
mosireletsi oa bana, o tsebile motho ea qosoang ka tlolo ena

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ea molao – e leng ntate – ka seqo ho tloha bongoaneng ba hae.

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O ne a boetse a mo etela foleteng eo ba neng ba e arolelana
– mehleng eo 'm'ae a neng a ntse a lula le ntate oa hae.

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Empa Carsten Stahl o qosa mme hobane o
itse Carsten Stahl o tseba ntate enwa.

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'Mè o hlola lekhotleng 'me moahloli o botsa,
"Haele hantle, Stahl o leka ho fihlela'ng ka sena?"

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Hobaneng 'mè a sa lumelloe ho re hore o tseba ntate?

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Bofelela: Nyeoe ea Ngaka Dorothea Thul – Tšoso ea ngaka.

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Ngaka ea bana, Dr Dorothea Thul, e lokisetsa
tlaleho ea bongaka molemong oa 'mè, e tiisang

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tlhekefetso ea thobalano e tsoelang pele ea moshanyana.

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Nakoana ka mor'a moo, o hlaselwa kantle ho folete ya hae. O
tshoswa, a kenngwa lefapheng la bakuli ba kelello mme a kwallwa

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tjhankaneng – ha ba ne ba sitwa ho mo isa
sepetleleng sa bakuli ba kelello – ka lebaka la

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seo ho thoeng ke "boitshwaro bo kgopisang".

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Bosupa: Maemo a sechaba – Ha
tšireletso ea bana e fetoha indasteri.

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Ka morao ho meqatametsi ena ea motho ka mong, ho na
le tsamaiso e nang le likhothatso tse fosahetseng.

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Litšebeletso tsa sechaba tsa boiketlo ba bana le
bacha li jella libilione selemo se seng le se seng.

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Ka kakaretso, ho sebediswa ho feta €12,000 ka kgwedi ho
ngwana ka mong ya hlokomelwang. Bafani ba bang ba

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ditshebeletso ba fumana tjhelete eo ka makgetlo a leshome.

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Jwale boradipolotiki – ke bile radipolotiki wa lehae, ka hoo
nka bua sena – ba nkile bofuma e le tshoso bohlokeng ba bana.

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Haeba bofuma bo nkoa e le tšokelo boiketlong ba ngoana, motho
o ipotsa ka tlhaho: ke hobane'ng ha batsoali ba sa nke ngoana?

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Hobaneng ha matlo a bana kapa batsoali
ba ba holisang ba fumana chelete ena?

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Ho tlatselletsa ho sena ke bofuma bo ntseng bo eketseha har'a
bana – boo, ho ya ka Bundestag, bo nang le "ditlamorao tse

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pharaletseng tshebetsong yohle ya thuto" – makgotla a malapa a
imetsweng, ho hlokeha ha poloko ya bopaki dinyeweng tsa

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tlhekefetso ya thobalano, le tshireletso ya ditheo
ho baetsadibe e etsang hore bo-mme ba nkoe e le

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disenyi haeba ba belaella kapa ba tlaleha tlhekefetso.

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Nka bua sena hobane ke hlahlobile linyeoe tse fetang sekete
tsa molao oa malapa, 'me ka hlahloba le ho nyatsa maikutlo

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a litsebi a ka bang palo e tšoanang ka lilemo tse fetileng.

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Ke tlameha ho bolela qalong hore ho thata haholo ho
paka tlhekefetso ea thobalano haeba ho sa fumanoe

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lisele tsa liphatsa tsa lefutso kapa likotsi tse tebileng.

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Ha bana ba bua lintho tse joalo,
hangata 'mè o qosoa ka ho laola ngoana.

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Ebe ho thwe mme o beha bophelo bo botle ba ngwana
kotsing mme ngwana o romelwa ho ya ho ya qoswang ka tlolo ya

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molao – hoo e ka bang maemong ohle, nka netefatsa seo.

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Mme hape ho na le tshireletso ya baetsadibe e tswang mekgatlong,
e etsang hore bo-mme ba nkuwe e le disenyi – ke lebaka le leng

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hape – hangata bo-mme ba tobana le diqoso tsa botlokotsebe
kapa ba romelwa kalafong ya kelello. Ka nako e nngwe

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ba fuwa ditlhatlhobo tsa mafu a sa nepahalang ho hang.

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Sena se bolela hore mang kapa mang ea tlalehang tlhekefetso o
kotsing ea ho lahleheloa ke ngoana oa hae. Ka

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hona, ho sireletsa bafeteletsi ba tlhekefetso
ho fetoha taba ea bohlokoa ho sechaba kaofela.

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Borobeli: Dipapiso tsa nalane – lehlakore le lefifi la tlhokomelo
ya bodulo. Diketsahalo tsena ha se diketsahalo tse ikemetseng.

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Ho tloha litekong tsa Kentler ho ea Haasenburg,
Metse ea Bana ea SOS le Lena e monyane oa Wunsiedel:

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Khafetsa, tlhekefetso ea thobalano, tlhokofatso kapa lefu li ne
li etsahala litsing tse neng li okametswe ke mmuso kapa kereke.

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Tlhahisoleseding ena e ngotswe phatlalatsa. O ka e
fumana hape leqepheng la rona la lehae tlasa "Axion Resist" .

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Re boetse re tshwere dikopano tse ngata tsa ditsebi
mabapi le taba ena mme ra qotsa dinyewe le mehlodi e mengata.

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Bahlaseluoa ba bangata ha ho mohla ho ileng ha utluoa
ka bona. Mme ba buang khahlanong le tlhōlō-molao – ke

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tseba hantle ka seo – hangata le bona ba fetoha liphofu.

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Mme sa borobong, hape le ho qetela: theko ea 'nete.

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Ngaka Reiner Fuellmich ke sesupo sa
ba buang linnete tse sa thabiseng.

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O ne a batla ho pepesa bobodu, tlhekefetso le tšebeliso e mpe
ea matla. Ka lebaka la sena, o ile a qosoa ka botlokotsebe.

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Ngaka Dorothea Thul o ile a fumana sehlōhō seo ho seng ea
neng a batla ho se utloa, mme a lahleheloa ke tokoloho ea hae.

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Sena se sebetsa hape ho Max Eder le ba bang ba
sehlopha sa Prinz Reuss, mme ruri le ho ba bang ba bangata.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ke ratang ho eketsa hore re tla be re thathamisa
liakhaonto tsa menehelo webosaeteng ea rona ea Axion Resist

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bakeng sa batho ba tšoeroeng ba hlokang tšehetso ka potlako
– e leng lichelete bakeng sa boiphemelo ba bona ba molao.

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Re tla phatlalatsa sena leqepheng la rona la lehae.

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Bo-'mè ba neng ba batla ho sireletsa bana
ba bona ba ile ba amohuoa litokelo tsa bona.

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Mme bana ba neng ba hloka thuso ba ile ba
siuwa tsamaisong e neng e reretsoe ho ba senya.

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Ke hopola polelo e entsweng ke ralepolotiki le eo e neng e le
Letona la Matlotlo, Olaf Scholz, ya ileng a re ka 2002: "Re

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se re fumane matla a hodimo a moyeng hodima dibete tsa bana."

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Sena se bolela hore mmuso o nkile bana tlasa tlhokomelo ya ona.

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Ba kenngoa mehopolo – esita le lihlopheng tsa bana ba banyenyane
le likolong – ka thuto ea tsa thobalano le e sa lokelang.

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Re ne re na le "Original Play" ena moo batsoali ba neng ba sa
tsebe hore banna ba sa tsejweng ba ne ba kena ka dikgoka ka

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diphaposing tsa masea mme ba hlekefetsa bana ka tsa thobalano.

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Ho bile le maemo a tlhekefetso, jj. Kahoo lintho tse joalo
lia etsahala mme batsoali ha ba na matla. Haeba ba tletleba,

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ba tlameha ho lebella hore bana ba bona ba tla nkuoa ho bona.

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Mme molaetsa o ka sehloohong wa tsohle ke hore:
tshireletso ya bana ha ea lokela ho ba seipato sa ho pata ntho.

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Ba pepesang bokhopo ba sireletsa bana – eseng mekhoa.

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Mme ho fana ka bodulo bakeng sa bana ho batla ho tshwana le
laesense ya ho hatisa tjhelete. Ke tlameha feela ho bua seo mona.

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Mme kgalatso e qala moo kgutso e etswang tlamo.

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Kea leboha. Kea leboha.

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Sena se entsoe ka bokhabane bo boholo mona ka nako e
khutšoanyane hakana, ka mokhoa o kopaneng hakaalo!

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Ke rata ho leboha haholo-holo ka boinehelo ba
lona ho bana le ka ho ba emela ka sebete se seholo.

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Mosadi ya molemo o dula a le ka hara dinyewe tsa molao.

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Ha re ne re bua fonong, o ne a dula a lokela ho ya lekgotleng la
ditsheko ho ya ditshekong tse ding, "Emela hanyane, ke sa ntse ke

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lokela ho..." Mme o ne a lokisa tsohle bosiu hobane
o ne a ntse a le lekgotleng la ditsheko mme a ntse a

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lokela ho... Ka bokgutshwanyane: o mohale wa mosadi!

02:06:16.041 --> 02:06:23.581
E! Mme ke leboha haholo le ka ho hokahanya dintlha tsena hape.

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Mme ke o lakaletsa katleho e kgolo, mme ke a
leboha ho tswa botebong ba pelo ya ka ka tlatsetso ena.

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Kea leboha. Kea leboha haholo.

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E, bashebelli ba ratehang, jwale re se re
utlwile mefuta e mengata ya ditlolo tsa molao.

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Re fumane kutloisiso ea hore na mohopolo ona
oa bosatane o bolela'ng, hore na o bolela'ng

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ho bana, le hore na motheo oa bosatane ke eng.

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Ha e le hantle e lebisitswe ho ditho tsa rona tse fokolang ka
ho fetisisa, e leng bana ba rona. Ho batla ho sa mamellehe.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, o ka nyahama
'me oa nahana: E, o ka etsa'ng mona?

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Kapa re ka boela ra re: E, tsena tsohle jwale di
senotsoe hobane re kopane moyeng, e le hore di se ke

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tsa dula di patilwe. Mme hoo ke tlholo e kgolo haholo.

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Qalong ea AZK ena, ntate o itse hore hoseng ho hong le ho hong ka
hora ea tšeletseng, ka liphatlalatso tse sebetsang 'moho, leha

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ho le joalo re tla hlola matla ana "a bonahalang a sa hlōlehe".

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Ka lithapelo tsena tsa boqapi tsa tumelo, re – e re ke bue sena
feela – re qalile tsohle hore litlōlo tsena tse

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mpe tsa molao li pepesoe, 'me lesira lena le
neng le li koahetse ka botebo le fefoloe le ile.

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Le hape hore baphonyohi ba ntse ba eketseha ka bongata ba iteta
sefuba ho bua, hore lipaki li ntse li itlhahisa, hore ba pepesang

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liphiri ba ntse ba hlahella haholoanyane, hore
litsebi li ntse li senola se etsahalang mona. Le hore

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hape ba mamella tlhekefetso eohle ho e pepesetsa!

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Hobane ke ka leseli feela moo merero ena e kotsi e ka otloloang,
ha e se e bonahala lefats'eng lohle, ha e se e sa khone ho lula e

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patiloe. Mme re tla tsoela pele ho tiisetsa
sena, ka hona ke batla ho le khothatsa hore le

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phetse liphatlalatso tsena hoseng ho hong le ho hong.

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Ke le mema kaofela ho etsa jwalo,
jwalo ka ha ntate a entse pejana kajeno.

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Mme ke boela ke re: ke ka lebaka la dipitso tsa rona tse
matlafatsanang hore baphonyohi ba bangata le ho feta ba fumana

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sebete – leha ba tsosetsoa ka lefu – ho re phetela
kaofela ka dibatana tse re busang mona, kamoo di

02:08:35.021 --> 02:08:38.915
ipatetsang le ho laola ditaba tsa lefatshe di le ka morao.

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Ke ka lebaka leo re kopanang bofokong bohle ba rona, mona le hona
joale, mme re isa molaetsa ona lefatsheng. Hape nka

02:08:43.864 --> 02:08:48.413
rata ho bolella e mong le e mong wa lona dibui tse
supileng hore le sebeditse mosebetsi o motle haholo.

02:08:48.413 --> 02:08:55.636
Empa re phatlalatsa molaetsa ona hobane seipato se
theohile, mme jwale re ka bona hore na ke mang ya kamora sena

02:08:55.636 --> 02:08:59.822
sohle le hore na ke mang ya hlileng a re tshosang mona.

02:08:59.822 --> 02:09:05.239
Mme re ema moo ka bofokodi bohle ba
rona mme re re: Ho lekane! Ho lekane!!!

02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:10.251
Hona joale ke kopa ho mema moena oa ka Elias le
mosali oa hae Stefanie hore ba tle sethaleng.

02:09:10.251 --> 02:09:18.210
Kamora khefu, Elias o tla tsamaisa karolo e latelang, moo re tla
shebisisa makala a mang hape re tla hlokomela le ho

02:09:18.210 --> 02:09:26.642
feta matla ao re nang le ona ha re tsebisa setjhaba ka
dintho tsena kaofela ka Vetopedia – ha di pepesehisa.

02:09:26.642 --> 02:09:31.781
Empa jwale ke nehelana ho Stefanie. O ngotse pina
mme o tla bua mantswe a seng makae ka yona hanghang.

02:09:31.781 --> 02:09:36.853
Ke bile ke dumelletswe ho letsa phala ya pan
mona hanyane, e leng ntho e ntle ho nna, kaha e

02:09:36.853 --> 02:09:40.234
nthusa ho phomola ho tswa ho tsohle. Ho lokile.

02:09:40.234 --> 02:09:44.536
Ke 'na Stefanie Sasek, mosali oa Elias Sasek.

02:09:44.536 --> 02:09:51.005
Mmoho re na le bana ba bane ba banyenyane le ba batle haholo.

02:09:51.005 --> 02:09:57.782
Nka rata ho le bolella ka bokgutshwanyane kamoo pina ya ka
e bileng teng: Lois, ke shebelletse mananeo a lona a

02:09:57.782 --> 02:10:02.183
ditokomane ho Kla.TV, mananeo a lona a mararo a "Blood Sects".

02:10:02.183 --> 02:10:08.510
Ba ntshositse haholo. E ne e le hobe ruri.

02:10:08.510 --> 02:10:15.203
Matsatsi a seng makae kamora ho tsoaloa ha ngoana oa rona oa
bone, ke ne ke sa robale, ke ntse ke iphetholla betheng, 'me

02:10:15.203 --> 02:10:19.712
ke ne ke sitoa ho tlohela litšoantšo tsena ka kelellong ea ka.

02:10:19.712 --> 02:10:30.327
Ke ile ka ameha haholo ke se etsahetseng, 'me ke ntho e
sa nahaneheng ho 'mè, e mpe ka tsela e sa nahaneheng.

02:10:30.327 --> 02:10:42.678
Mme ka nako eo ka bona kganya ya tshepo nakong ena e thata, ha ke
hlokomela hore: boemong bona ba rona ba bofokodi, re tlameha ho

02:10:42.678 --> 02:10:51.007
ema re tiile mme re emele feela hore ho be le
ho hong ho re etsahalelang, hore mekgwa e

02:10:51.007 --> 02:10:55.114
metjha e lokollwe e tla mpa e qala ntho e itseng.

02:10:55.114 --> 02:11:01.561
Mme yaba, jwalo ka ha ke boletse, ke ile ka
fumana kganyanyana, mme ha ke batle ho bua letho le

02:11:01.561 --> 02:11:07.509
leng ka yona, hobane ke se ke e kentse pineng ya ka.

02:11:07.509 --> 02:11:14.945
Hape ho monate haholo hore ebe uena, Lois, o fumane nako ea ho
letsa pina ka folutu ea hau ea pan. Hape ho

02:11:14.945 --> 02:11:22.729
rateha haholo hore ebe banab'eso ba babeli le khaitseli
ea ka ba sethaleng le 'na. Ke tšebelisano-'moho.

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Re ngotse mmino, mantswe le tsohle mmoho, mme ke
thabile haholo hore jwale re ka bina pina ena.

02:11:29.740 --> 02:11:38.504
Ke tšepa hore sena se tla fana ka leseli
qetellong ea taba ena e thata. Kea leboha!

02:11:58.335 --> 02:12:06.067
O paqame matsohong a ka, o tletse tshepo

02:12:06.067 --> 02:12:14.474
E ntse e le nyane haholo bakeng sa meroalo ea lefatše lena

02:12:14.474 --> 02:12:21.962
Monyako o koetsoe, lefifi le tlameha ho ema

02:12:21.962 --> 02:12:30.702
Empa ke se ke tseba hore ha ho sa tla lula ho le tjena.

02:12:30.702 --> 02:12:38.582
Mme ke ntse ke o tshwere matsohong a ka

02:12:38.582 --> 02:12:46.563
Empa kantle, lefatshe lohle le o emetse

02:12:46.563 --> 02:12:54.180
Ke mang ya tla o sireletsa dinakong tsena tse thata?

02:12:54.180 --> 02:13:02.698
Ha o ikutlwa o se na matla le ho hloka toka

02:13:05.002 --> 02:13:23.274
Empa mamela, ngoan'a ka Eseng ka matla, empa
ka bofokoli U tla fumana senotlolo sa nako ena

02:13:23.274 --> 02:13:38.880
Ha se ba matla ba fetolang lefatše lena Empa
ke ba phomolang bofokong matsohong a 'Mopi

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Leha ke se ke ikemetse nako e telele ke ikutloa
joaloka wena, ke hloka thuso haholo ebile ke monyane haholo

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Ke bona mahlomola a mehla ea rona
'me ke ema Feela ka tšepo har'a sefefo

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Hobane ha se ka matla, empa ke ka
bofokoli Hore senotlolo sa nako ena se loketse

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Ha se ba matla ba fetolang lefatše lena Empa
ke ba emeng ka bofokoli leihlong la sefefo

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Mme ba matla kaofela ha ba kgone ho sisinya
letho, Ha re phomotse ka tshepo matsohong a Mmopi

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Ha re phomotse ka tshepo matsohong a Mmopi