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U-Lois Sasek ngoyena ntombi mkhulu kubantwana abalishumi elinanye
bomseki we-Kla.TV, u-Ivo Sasek, kunye nenkosikazi yakhe u-Anni.

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Ngo-2006, wathatha isikhundla sokuba ngumphathi
wemveliso ePanorama Film kwaye wayenoxanduva lokufotwa

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nokugqityezelwa kweefilimu ezilishumi eziphambili zikayise.

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Ukusukela ngo-2012, ukwangumphathi wemveliso
nomlungelelanisi jikelele weziko le-TV le-intanethi i-Kla.TV.

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U-Lois unezakhono ezigqwesileyo zokulungelelanisa.

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Ukongeza, amandla akhe amakhulu
akwisisakhono sakhe sokukhuthaza nokuphembelela abantu.

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Oku kwakubonakala ngokucacileyo xa
i-AZK yayisabanjelwa kwiiholo ezinkulu.

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Phantsi kolwalathiso lwakhe, zonke iitoni ezingama-20 zezinto
zadilizwa zaza zalayishwa kwisiqingatha seyure nje emva komsitho,

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kwaye wonke umntu obandakanyekileyo wonwaba kakhulu esenza oko.

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Ngokufanayo, useke iqela elinamandla
nelinomdla elivela kumakhulu amavolontiya e-Kla.TV.

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Kangangeminyaka engaphezu kwe-13, ibilasela
iinkqubo zayo ezizodwa yonke imihla kumazwe

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ali-195 nangakwiilwimi ezifikelela kuma-80.

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Nabani na owazi uLois uyazi ukuba unentliziyo
enkulu kubo bonke abantu ababuthathaka nabelusweleyo.

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Babethe wothuka kakhulu ziimeko zeembingeleli
ezininzi ezingamaxhoba obundlobongela bemisebenzi yesatane.

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Umnqweno wokunika aba bantu ilizwi nokwazisa uluntu ngezenzo
zolwaphulo-mthetho ezenziwe kubo, wakhokelela uLois, ukongeza

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kumsebenzi wakhe odla ixesha kwi-Kla.TV, ukuba abe ngumbhali
wemiboniso bhanyabhanya eyahlukeneyo

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ebalulekileyo yee-documentary, ezifana nezahluko
1 ukuya ku-3 ze "Blutsekte" (Blood Sect).

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Ezi lifilimu zibukelwe izigidi ngezigidi zamaxesha.

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Bekhuthazwe zezi ziveliso, amaxhoba amaninzi athathe
inyathelo lokwenza zaziwe luluntu iimbali zawo zokubandezeleka.

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ULois unxibelelana buqu nabaninzi babo.

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Ifilimu yakhe yamva nje, "1024 Abasindileyo
kubundlobongela bemikhosi nemvula iyaqhubeka!", ikhutshwe

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kwiveki ephelileyo ngeelwimi ezingaphezu kwama-30.

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Ewe, babukeli abathandekayo be-AZK yama-22.
Kwinxalenye yokuqala, sifunde ngophando

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olubanzi lukatata wam, u-Ivo Sasek. Usityhilele lona.

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Amakhulu abantu anikele ngexesha lawo ukuze aze
obala la maqela ayimfihlo ehlabathi jikelele.

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Kwenziwa uphando olunzulu, ubusuku ngobusuku.

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Ekupheleni kwebhloko yokuqala kwiVetopedia, umntakwethu
uElias wasibonisa indlela yokuzijonga nokuqinisekisa ngokwethu

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ezi ziseko zemibutho eyimfihlo kwimephu enkulu yehlabathi.

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Sibone ngokucacileyo ukuba le hlabathi
lisezandleni zezi zihlwele zimfihlo kuzo zonke iinkalo.

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Kwizandla zeFreemasonry ekumgangatho ophezulu,
ebonakala inobuntu kwaye inobuhlobo kwihlabathi langaphandle.

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Noko ke, kumanqanaba aphezulu, sivile ngomlomo wabo
kwaye safunda nakubhala kwabo ukuba uSathana/uLucifer

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nguThixo wabo, kwaye uThixo weBhayibhile noYesu bangumtyholi.

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Nabani na onaphoswe yinxalenye yokuqala ye-AZK
kufuneka ngokuqinisekileyo amamele intetho enikwe ngutata

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wam, u-Ivo Sasek, njengesiseko sale nxalenye yesibini.

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Kuba ngoku sakhela phezu koko. Yintoni
imiphumela yokuba uSathana abe nguThixo?

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Umntu angacinga, "Akukhathaliseki kum ukuba uThixo ungubani."

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Kodwa zeziphi izenzo zabantu abathi bona
uSathana banguye uThixo wabo baze bamkhonzele?

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Njengoko sele kukhankanyiwe, ndipapashe amakhulu
eengxelo ezivela kwizisulu zobuSathana kwiminyaka yakutshanje.

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Ndibaphulaphule, ndathetha nabo, ndafunda iingxelo zabo,
ndabukela iifilimu zabo, kwaye bonke bangqina

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kanye ngento etyhilwe ngutata wam kule ntsasa: ezi
zibingelo zabantwana ezikhohlakeleyo, njalo njalo.

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Akunyanzelekanga ukuba ndiphinde konke oko kwakhona.

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Qiniseka ukuba uyayiphulaphula le ntetho kwaye uzibukele ezi
filimu, apho amaxhoba aqinisekisa yonke into igama ngeligama.

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Umzekelo, ukuba iFreemasonry ekumgangatho
ophezulu inemvelaphi yayo kwiSatanism esinyulu.

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Kodwa ezi zisulu ziye zavakalelwa ngokwazo ukuba kuthetha ntoni
xa uSathana "eyiNkosi," okanye xa uSathana

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enziwa umthixo, xa ebizwa, njengoko sivile
kuFreemason we-33rd degree uArthur Edward Waite.

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Leyo yayiyithiyori. Amaxhoba angqina ukuba
inyaniso yayisisoyikiso esikhulu kunaso sonke

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esinokucingelwa, eyona nto inenkohlakalo umntu anokuyifumana.

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Kwaye yiloo nto kanye ethetha ukuba ngumSathana.

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Ndithi nabani na ojongene nalo mbandela uya kuphelela kuba
inenzwano kakhulu, kuba uSatanismo uchasiwayo yayo yonke into emi

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kuyo uThixo, yayo yonke into esiyibona intle, yonke into
elungileyo, yonke into esiyichaza njengoxolo,

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emangalisayo, entle, yonke into esiyithatha
okanye esiva ukuba ingcwele okanye yezulwini.

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Ukuba uyayijika loo nto, ufumana inkohlakalo,
ubundlobongela, intshabalaliso, kwanokugqekezwa komzimba.

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Oku akwamkelekanga kwaye
akuyiqondakali kuthi njengabantu abanyanisekileyo.

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Ungakubona oku nakwifilimu yam yamva nje, apho
iCawa yaseSwitzerland kaSathana ibonisa

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ngokukhululekileyo ezi zenzo zikhohlakeleyo kwitshaneli yayo.

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Kufuphi nokunganyamezeleki. Ngoku umbuzo
omkhulu ngulo: ngaba ngenene kufuneka sijongane noku?

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Loo nto ayilunganga kwimo yethu yengqondo,
isicinezela kakhulu, kufuneka sigxile ekukhanyeni.

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Ewe, ewe, singukukhanya, yinyani loo nto, kwaye
ukukhanya kukusilela kwezi zenzo zikhohlakeleyo.

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Kodwa ukuba asibhekani nohlobo lwabantu abaphethe ulawulo
lwehlabathi – njengoko sibonakalisile namhlanje, njengoko uPapa

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ebonakalisile – ukuba asivumeli obu bunzondo bunzulu kwinqanaba
eliphezulu lobunkokeli behlabathi busichaphazele, ngoko

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ke siya kuqhubeka sisoyika izifo zabo ezosasazekayo,
ukuphazamiseka kwemozulu abakwenzayo, nemfazwe abazivuselelayo.

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Sifunda amaphephandaba abo obuxoki, siza kume singenakwenza nto
sibukele njengoko batshabalalisa okwengeziwe indalo

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yethu, njengoko bephanga umhlaba nezibonelelo
zawo, njengoko betshabalalisa amazwe ahlwempuzekileyo.

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Sibukela iifilimu zabo, simamela umculo wabo – "Trallalla,
Didelidei" – sixoxa ngokuba ingaba isitofu se-mRNA silungile

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okanye sibi, ingaba ii-chemtrails zikho okanye akunjalo, ingaba
ilanga kufuneka lenze mnyama okanye hayi,

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zingaphi ii-antena ze-5G kunye neesathelayithi
zeStarlink ekufuneka zithunyelwe emajukujukwini.

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Sibukele njengoko izigidi zeerobhothi ezifana
nabantu zikhululwa eMhlabeni, nendlela

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esiza kuthathathelwa indawo yile AI, njalo njalo.

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Kodwa kuphela xa sifikelele entloko ye-okhophu kwaye uluntu lonke
luqonda ukuba ngabantu abaphambeneyo abasilawulayo, nokuba

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ngabantu baluphi na, nokuba ngemisebenzi yabo iyintoni, ingqondo
yabo imi njani, kwaye nobuSathana buthetha ntoni

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kanye kanye, kuphela ngoko ke esiya kuzikhulula kwezi
zibopho, kwihlabathi jikelele, njengoko watshoyo uPapa.

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Emva koko siza kuphakama sonke. Siza kukukhanyisa kuyo
sonke size siphelise olu lwaphazameko, kuba ukukhanya

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kunamandla kunobumnyama kwaye kuba uThixo unamandla kunoSathana.

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Yiyo loo nto ke ngoku ndingathanda ukuqala ngokutshintshela
kwizisulu ezibini zobuSathana ezisindileyo kulwaphulo-mthetho

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lobuSathana lwemikhosi kunye nolu bunyani bungendawo babuSathana.

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Emva koko, ndiza kutshintshela kwiingcali, nakwamangqina
ngalo mbandela, abaza kuthi ke basityhile ubukhulu bento

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efihlakeleyo emva koku – kude kuye emkhosini, njalo njalo.

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Kwaye kufuneka sijonge apho ukuze siqonde
ukuba kwenzeka ntoni kwihlabathi lethu.

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Akukho mifanekiso iboniswayo, kodwa kuza
kufuneka sijongane noko: ithetha ntoni iSatanism?

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Kodwa siza kubonisa nezisombululo, into
anokuyenza ngamnye wethu ukuyinqanda le nto!

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Ndingathi ke, ukuba umntu ngenene akanakukwazi ukumelana nako,
angahlala ecaleni okwethutyana okanye azigqume iindlebe phakathi

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nako, ukuba kufuneka kwaye ukuba kuyaba mandundu kakhulu.

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Kodwa asizukungena kwiinkcukacha ezininzi, ndingakuxelela oko.
Nangona kunjalo, kufuneka sithethe ngayo. Kufuneka

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sikhumbule ukuba aba bantu kwafuneka badlule koko sinokukuchaza
ngokupheleleyo kuphela ngezigama ezimbalwa okanye ezintathu.

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Ngoko ke, ndiyanibongoza ukuba siyijongane le nto ngoku size
siyihlolisise! Kuphela ngoko ke ebeya kusibakho ukufikelela

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kwizigqibo ezifanelekileyo. Ngoku ke sityelela kuSandra Rasch.

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Wazalelwa kusapho lwamaSatanista kwaye uthi ngamava akhe,
umzekelo: "Abona maFreemasons baphezulu ngokucacileyo

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ngamaSatanista, kwaye uThixo wabo wayenguThixo
omnyama ongene kwindalo yethu ukuze ayenze

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mnyama aze athathe yonke into." Isiqwenga siphelile.

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USandra Rasch ngumntu osindileyo
kubundlobongela bemikhosi yezinkolo ezimbi waseJamani.

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Yena nodadewabo u-Antje bakhule kusapho lobusathana.

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Babethengiselwa abantu abathandana nabantwana
kwaye bahlukunyezwa kakhulu besengabantwana.

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USandra nodadewabo kwanyanzeleka ukuba
bathathe inxaxheba kwizithethe ezininzi zobusathana.

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Kwabakho amadini nokutyiwa kwabantu.

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Oodadewabo ababini bahlukaniswa ngokucwangcisiweyo,
nto leyo eyabangela ukuba bayeke ukunxibelelana.

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Kwifilimu kaLiz Wieskerstrauch ethi "Höllenleben" (Ubomi
esihogweni), esekelwe kuphando lukaGuido Grandt,

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uSandra no-Antje, ngokuzimeleyo nangaphandle
kokubonisana, bangqina ngemikhosi efanayo ngokweenkcukacha.

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Ngaphambili, bebengadibani iminyaka elishumi.

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Amava abalisa ngawo ngokweenkcukacha athetha ngesiko
lokuzala elibandakanya u-Antje, emva kwalo umntwana wabulawa.

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Ifilimu ethi "Höllenleben – Der Kampf der Opfer: Ritueller
Missbrauch in Deutschland" (Ubomi baseSihogweni –

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Umzabalazo wamaXhoba: Ukuphathwa gadalala ngokwenkolo
yezithethe eJamani) yaphaphatheka kwi-ARD ngo-2003.

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Kuyo, amaxhoba axela ukuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo yesatane.

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Bayabiza amagama eendawo nabenzi bobundlobongela bemikhosi.

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Noko ke, le filimu ayizange ilandele sisikhalo kumajelo
eendaba, kwaye amapolisa avala uphando emva kweminyaka embalwa.

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Akukho mntu wathwaliswa ityala ngenxa yezi
zenzo zoyikekayo, kungasathethwa ke ngokugwetywa.

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Kuyacaca ukuba bekungekho mnqweno
wokuphanda nokusola la lwaphulo-mthetho luyoyikeka.

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Le filimu sele isusiwe kwithala le midiya le-ARD
kwaye ngoku ifumaneka kuphela kwii-akhawunti zabucala.

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Amajelo eendaba asemthethweni azikhwebule ekutyhileni
ukuxhatshazwa ngemikhosi yesatane kwaye ade ahlekise

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ngamaxhoba, anjengoBöhmermann weZDF okanye uRehmann weSRF.

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USandra Rasch ngoku yingcali ekunikezeleni inkxaso yonyango
kubantu abakhe bafumana inkohlakalo yezithethe okanye ezinye

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iimeko ezinzima zokwenzakala engqondweni ezifana nokuxhatshazwa
ngokwesondo kwabantwana, ukunyanzeliswa ukuba babe ziingqweba,

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ulawulo lwengqondo, ukuxhatshazwa, udlwengulo kunye nokungahoywa.

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Abo bachaphazelekileyo bangatyelela iwebhusayithi
raschheilen.de ukuze baziqonde amava abo

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abuhlungu baze bakhanyise ukukhanya kwabo okungaphakathi.

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Ubhale incwadi ngamava akhe enesihloko esithi:
"Phambi Kokuba Uncame: Ukonqoba Ukwenzakala Okunzulu,

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Ukuhlukunyezwa Ngezithethe kunye Nolawulo Lwengqondo."

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Ndiyambona uSandra apha, uyasiva?
. Kumnandi. Ewe, molo Sandra wam.

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Lilizothe kuthi ukukwazi ukuthetha
nani apha namhlanje kwi-AZK yama-22!

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Ewe, molo Lois. Kulihlombe ukuba lapha nani. Ndinombulelo
ongazenzisiyo kakhulu ngokuba yinxalenye yesi siganeko.

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Enkosi kakhulu. Ewe, kwifilimu ethi "Höllenleben"
(Ubomi eSihogweni), udadewenu u-Antje wayebonakala kakhulu.

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Kodwa nawe wazalelwa kolu lwelo lobusathana.

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Ufumene amava aluphi? Ungasixelela
ntoni malunga nobuSathana kulo mxholo?

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Ewe, le filimu ngokwenene ibonisa ukuba
ubudlelwane bethu babunjani xa sasengabantwana.

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Kodwa into endithanda ukuyicacisa yindlela ubomi
obunjani kwisahluko esinje sobusathana, kuba ndiqaphele

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ukuba abantu abaninzi kakhulu abanakwazi nto ngako.

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Kwaye kunjalo ngokwenene. Uphila kumanqanaba amabini. Kwelinye
icala, kukho inqanaba lokuxhatshazwa, kwaye kwelinye, abantwana

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abaxeliweyo baphila ubomi bemihla ngemihla kanye njengam.

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Kwaye nakubomi bemihla ngemihla: usoloko woyika. Yimeko
engapheliyo, esisigxina yokulumka, kuba kufuneka usoloko ulumkela

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indlela ocinga ngayo, indlela oziva ngayo, noko ukuthethayo.

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Bajonga indlela osabela ngayo kwaye baphinde
bavavanye nokuba uziphethe ngokufanelekileyo na.

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Bawulawula ubuhlobo, unxibelelwano, indlela oqhuba
ngayo esikolweni, nokuba ukhona nabani na esikolweni.

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Bayalawula yonke into, ewe, phantse yonke mphefumlo.

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Kwaye ukuba uyaphambuka, umzekelo, ukuba
unobuhlobo obuya kusondela kakhulu, buya kwahlukana.

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Akukho kwaphela kwaphela kokubaleka.
Bakwingqondo, beqwalasela iingcinga, amajongo, iimvakalelo,

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ubunjani bakho bonke, kwaye bayaqaphela yonke into.

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Kwaye, okubalulekileyo, abantwana buphela buphantsi
kolawulo lwale nkolelo imbi. Bafana nabaphawuliweyo.

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Kwaye waba namava entoni apho kwelo candelo, ngokwenene?

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Amava am – oku kuyinto entsha kum, ukuthetha ngokwenene ngam,
kuba ngaphambili bendisoloko ndithanda ukuthetha nje ngokuphila.

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Kodwa ndicinga ukuba ndingakwazi ukuyenza ngoku. Ngoko
ke, bendisuswa ubusuku ngabunye, ndinikwa iziyobisi.

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Kanye. Ndandifakwe iingxowa entloko, ndiqhutyelwa kude.

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Ndafumana iihomoni ndisengumntwana omncinci. Ngoko ke
andizange ndidlule kubudala bokukhula obuqhelekileyo,

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kodwa ndafumana iihomoni ndaza ndakhulelwa ngabom.

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Zakhutshwa kum kumanqanaba ahlukeneyo. Ndiyazi
ukuba bendiphethe enye kude kakhulu, ebinokuphila nayo.

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Kwaza kwakhutshwa omnye kum – ndisalele ndilele apho ndiphuma
igazi – ulusu lwalo mntwana lwakhutshwa phambi kwamehlo am.

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Kundithathe iminyaka emininzi kakhulu
ukufumanisa ngandlel' ithile indlela yokuphila nayo.

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Kukho kwakhona umba waba bantwana
bakhuselekileyo nabangakhuselekanga.

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Abantu bahlala besithi, "Zivela phi zonke ezi zana?"

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Kodwa kanye ngenxa yale mithwalo ithe ngqo neyaziwayo.

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Kwaye inani elikhulu kakhulu labantwana – amakhulu
amawaka ngokwenene – bahlala kwiishedi, kwiikheji,

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kwiituneli, kwaye bayakhathalelwa ndaweni ithile.

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Ngoko ke nam kwakufuneka ndikhathalele abantwana ngamanye
amaxesha, ukuze ndibancede basinde ngandlel'

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ithile, kwaye bayaxhatshazwa, bathathwe baze
basetyenziswe de ngandlel' ithile kungasebenzi nto.

16:08.789 --> 16:14.139
Emva koko bayabethela yaye iitho zabo
zithengiswe, okanye – andazi nokuba benza ntoni ngazo

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zonke. Ngoko ke basebenzisa yonke into ngokwenene.

16:17.162 --> 16:24.580
Kwaye ukukhupha le adrenochrome kwimeko yokwenzakala okukhulu
kakhulu – oko kukuthi, ukuthathwa kwegazi – oku kuveliswa

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kweadrenochrome kunye nale mazinga aphezulu
angapheliyo okwenzakala kuxinzelela kakhulu.

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Umzimba awunakuyinyamezela le nto ixesha elide.

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Kwenzeka ntoni enye kum: Baye bamkela nabantwana.

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Kwakha kwenzeka ndalaliswa engcwabeni
baza baqalisa nokuphosa umhlaba phezu kwam.

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Ngoko ke, omnye umntwana ulaliswe engcwabeni, kwaye
abanye kufuneka bathobele lo mkhokholo ngokungcwaba omnye

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umntwana esaphila. Ewe, luhlobo lwesilingo sokwamkelwa .

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Kwaye nam ndandilele emazantsi engcwaba, ndaza
ndatsalwa ngaphandle kwangethuba ukuze ndisindile.

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Ndathi ndakukhula, ndangasafaneleki
kwisondo labantwana, ndathengiswa ngokwesondo.

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Ndandifundiswa ukudanisa phambi kwamadoda, aze ke azikhethele.

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Kwaye ukuze ndiqheliswe, ndafakwa isuti
yomzimba wonke enezinaliti ngaphakathi.

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Kwaye ukuba bendingananzwanga
ngokwaneleyo, bendinyanzelwa ukuba ndinxibe isuti.

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Ngoko ke unokucinga ukuba yonke intshukumo ibuhlungu ngokwenene.

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Enye ingongoma yeyokuba baninzi kakhulu, kakhulu, kakhulu
abantwana abangamaxhoba, ukuze nabo abantwana bajike

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babe ngabaphuli-mthetho. Kukho uqeqesho lwengqondo
lokuba abantwana kufuneka bakhethe ukuba ngubani ofayo.

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Kufuneka benze isigqibo, bahlala beziva ngathi benza isigqibo
esiphosakeleyo, ukuba ngabo abasolwayo kwaye bahlala besenza into

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engalunganga, kodwa kwakhona abasoze bakwazi ukusindisa namntu.

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Ndisengumntwana omncinci – ndineminyaka emalunga nesihlanu
okanye emithandathu ubudala – nam ndenyanzeliswa ukuba ndibe

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ngumenzi wobubi kwaye kwafuneka ndinqumle umzimba owawusashushu.

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Emva koko isandla sam sakhokelwa ukuba ndikhuphe
intliziyo. Bayenza le nto phantse kuye wonke umntu okhoyo.

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Ewe, sendiyivile loo nto ngokuphindaphindiweyo!

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Ewe, kanye. Kwaye omnye umkhuba obaluleke
kakhulu kukuba benza umtshato wesatane

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nabantwana abancinci – abaneminyaka emithathu ubudala.

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Ewe, nam ndakhe ndadibana naloo nto. Bakunxibisa ngokwenene
ilokhwe yomtshato emnyama benekhaphu baze bakutshate – kwaye ke,

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kunjalo, iguquke ibe yimibutho yesondo yabantu abaninzi. Hmm.

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Ewe, kanye. Ndisakuba ndasiyiwa eBelgium yayifana netyala
likaDutroux, apho abantwana balindela kumagumbi

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amnyama – angena mafestile, ebumnyameni, bekhohlisiwe
ngokupheleleyo – bade bathathwe baze basetyenziswe.

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Kwaye oko kwakukho kabi kakhulu. Ndikhumbula ngenye imini xa
ndandisele ndingumntu omdala, kwafuneka ndiqhube

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ndidlule eBelgium. Ndathi, "Kuphela kwi-motorways
nakweyiphi na indawo apho ndibona izibane zesitalato."

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Kwakungafanelanga ukuba siye khona, kuba iBelgium
yayikhohlakele ngokugqithisileyo, kwaye oko

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kwakufikelela kanye phezulu kubukhosi nakwizikhundla eziphezulu.

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Ngoko ke loo nto isoloko isiya phezulu kanye.
Kukho uluhlu lwezikhundla kunye namanqanaba amaninzi.

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Kwaye olu lwaphulo-mthetho lubanzi lululwana nje
kwinqanaba elisezantsi, kodwa ezinye izinto nazo ziqala phezulu

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kwaye zicwangciswa ziphezulu, kuba kubo yinto nje yezomnotho.

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Ingaba nawe uqaphele ukuba ngabo abasebenzi abaphezulu apho?

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Ewe.

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Kulungile.

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Imalunga nomoya.

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Abo benza loo nto abanamphefumlo okanye banomphefumlo omnyama.

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Bahlala bengumqondo nje kwaye bafuna nje
ukuthatha umphefumlo, bawujike okanye

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bawubulale. Wow, ewe. Kuba oko kukukhanya kwalo Mhlaba.

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Ewe, enkosi kakhulu ngokuvuleleka kwakho,
Sandra, ngokuthetha ngayo nokwabelana nathi ngayo.

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Akukho lula, njengoko sisazi ngamanye amaxhoba.

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Linyathelo elibalulekileyo kubo ukuba bathethe
ngezi ziganeko zibuhlungu. Loo nto iyoyikeka.

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Enkosi ngokusabelana nathi ngale nto –
okokuqala apha kwi-AZK yama-22 – ngeenkcukacha

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ezingekaziwa lihlabathi. Ihlala indishukumisa.

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Le ngcinga yobusathana ikrwada
ngokunzulu, njengoko usandul' ukuyicacisa kwakhona.

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Kodwa umntu angasitsho nokuthi ulwazi ngokuxhatshazwa ngemikhosi
yesatane luyanda phakathi kwabantu kwaye ezi

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zenzo zokubhida ziyaziwa ngakumbi nangakumbi ngenxa
yokuba amatyala amaninzi ngakumbi ephuma elubala.

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Kodwa ngoku kukho umntu ekuthiwa 'ngumthetheleli' wamaxhoba
obundlobongela bemikhosi, kwaye nguloo ligqwetha u-Ellen Engel.

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Uyazithethelela esidlangalaleni.

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Nangona kunjalo, uthi umntu akanakukholelwa kuyo yonke into
ethethwa ngamaxhoba, ingakumbi xa kuziwa ekubulaweni kweentsana.

21:35.919 --> 21:41.984
Akazange afumane naziphi na iipowusta zabantwana
abalahlekileyo kwiindawo apho amaxhoba athe awabonile khona.

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Okanye, bekungayi kubakho nasiphi na isingxelo ephephandabeni
sokuba abantwana banyamalele, ngoko ke loo nto ayinakwenzeka.

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Ngoko ke, njengomthetheleli wamaxhoba, ubonisa
amaxhoba ngathi akanathemba. Uthi ntoni ngaloo nto?

21:58.107 --> 22:07.579
Akukholeleki, kuba kukho amakhulu amawaka abantwana
abangabhaliswanga kwaphela – ekungekho mntu waziyo nto ngabo,

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abaphila ngokwenene befihlakele, abaphila entlungwini, abangaze
babone ukukhanya kwemini – abagcinwa baphila

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nzima kwaye bayahlukunyezwa bade bafe... –
Andifuni ukuyithetha – kwaye bayahlukunyezwa.

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Kwaye akukho mntu uqaphelayo. Oku kufikelela kanye
kumanqanaba aphezulu, kwaye baneendlela ezigqwesileyo zokufihla.

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Ngelo xesha, sasinekomishoni ekhethekileyo
. Abo babesikholelwayo basuswa kwangoko.

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Omnye wabo wayehleka ngalo lonke ixesha ndandincinwa. Bayayifihla
ngabom le nto. Abantu abaninzi bathetha ngeNqaba yaseWewelsburg.

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Ewe, nam ndandikho. Kodwa kuthiwa abafumani nto apho.

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Bakho abacoci beendawo zolwaphulo-mthetho apho, kwaye ukuba
ikhona ipolisa lithi, "Asifumananga nto" – kuyaphela apho.

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Ngoko ke, umongo wukuba abantwana
yeyona nto ixabiseke kakhulu kunazo zonke.

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Ngokuphathelele kwamalungu omzimba – bathatha izinyithi
ukuze zenze iikhrimu, izithambiso, neentlobo ngeentlobo zezinto.

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Uhenketho lwezesondo yeyona ngxaki inkulu kunazo zonke. Ewe,
bayathengiswa kwaye bayarhwebelwa, kwaye

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konke oku kwenziwa ngokufihlakeleyo; lumbutho
ozimeleyo ongaphantsi komgaqo-nkqubo woluntu.

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Wow, ewe, enkosi ngeenkcazelo.

23:34.160 --> 23:41.717
Ndichazile iimeko ezili-1,024 zabantu abasindileyo kwiifilimu
ezine ezingamaxwebhu ezimalunga nogonyamelo lwemikhosi.

23:41.717 --> 23:46.287
Kwaye iingxelo ezifanayo ziyaqhubeka zifika
ngokuphindaphindiweyo zivela kumazwe ahlukeneyo.

23:46.287 --> 23:49.527
Kwamaxhoba athetha iilwimi ezahlukeneyo kakhulu.

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Kodwa into ezingxelo zonke ziyavumelana ngayo kakhulu
sisoloko sisitsho sokuba kubandakanyeka abantu abakumgangatho

23:55.439 --> 23:58.738
ophezulu abanobudlelwane obusondeleyo phakathi kwabo.

23:58.738 --> 24:06.302
UEllen Engel naye akavumelani nezi zibongozo, kuba uthi akukho
lwaphulo-mthetho lunokugqibelela kangangokuba lungaziwa luluntu.

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Njengobungqina obubonileyo, uthini ngale nto?
Ingaba nawe ubone nabantu abakwizikhundla eziphezulu?

24:13.159 --> 24:17.725
Ewe, eBelgium. Kulapho endabona
khona ukuba inyuka iye phezulu kanye.

24:17.725 --> 24:22.988
Kwaye ndineeklayenti ezikhe zibona
nabantu abakumgangatho ophezulu.

24:22.988 --> 24:31.043
Ingongoma yeyokuba le nethiwekhi – equka oogqirha, abazalisi,
amagqwetha, amapolisa, amajaji, oosopolitiki, amagosa

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karhulumente, yonke into – ineziseko ezingundoqo
eziphucuke kakhulu kangangokuba isebenza njengenethiwekhi

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yesibini phantsi kweziseko zethu eziqhelekileyo.

24:42.315 --> 24:46.526
Kwaye akukho mntu uyaziyo loo nto. Bamanyene
kakhulu, bayifihla kakuhle kakhulu omnye komnye

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kangangokuba umntu oqhelekileyo akayi kuyiqaphela.

24:48.931 --> 24:58.450
Ngoko ke u-Ellen Engel akajongi apho. Bubudenge
ukukholelwa ukuba nabani na wayenokuyibona loo nto.

24:58.450 --> 25:01.924
Iiofisi zoluntu lwabantu abatsha zithumela amatyala kubantu
abathandana nabantwana. Ngelo xesha, udadewethu

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waya kwi-ofisi yoluntu lwabantu abatsha waza
wabaxelela into eyayenzekile. Akwenzekanga nto.

25:05.251 --> 25:15.311
Le nkqubo yokuthula ifunyanwa sisisixhobo
ngasinye. Igeniswe nzulu, iyindlela esisiseko yokusinda.

25:15.311 --> 25:20.650
Kodwa lonke uluntu luyalathiselwa ukucinezela nokuphepha.

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Kule mihla, xa umntu oneengxaki zempilo yengqondo esiya
eklinikhi, akazilungisi iingxaki zakhe; kuyatshiwo kuye, "Owu,

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sukuyingcamla kakhulu, kungenjalo uza kuziva kabi kwakhona."

25:32.480 --> 25:34.245
Ukuzikhwebula kuxhaphakile kuyo yonke indawo.

25:34.245 --> 25:37.544
Ngoko ke kucacile ukuba abafuni
kuyijonga, bathi: "Hayi, ndiyazicingela nje,

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asiyonyani le nto, yonke into ihamba kakuhle."

25:40.503 --> 25:45.555
Oku kuye kwaba yindlela esetyenziswa luluntu,
kwaye kuye kwomelela ngakumbi kule minyaka

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yakutshanje ngenxa yobhubhane we-coronavirus.

25:48.546 --> 25:55.944
Baye bavavanya oku kubantwana kwezi ziqhulo iminyaka
emininzi kakhulu, kwaye ngoku bayakusebenzisa eluntwini.

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Ewe.

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Loo nto yayisisiseko sento eyenzekayo kuyo yonke indawo ngoku.

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Kwaye ngoku uyazi ukuba isebenza njani.
Amajelo eendaba ngumthakathiko wabantu abaninzi.

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Ewe, into eyenzekayo apho yindaba iphelele yodwa.

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Ewe, enkosi kakhulu ngelo kucaciso, Sandra wam.

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Akukho nto.

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Ndikunqwenelela amandla amaninzi
nezikelekazi ngomsebenzi wakho wokunyanga amaxhoba.

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Ewe, enkosi.

26:27.465 --> 26:30.902
Sala kakuhle Sandra, sala kakuhle, enkosi!

26:34.960 --> 26:42.157
Ngoku singathanda ukutshintshela kuChantal Frei.

26:42.157 --> 26:45.923
Ukwathethe kakhulu ngale mibophelelwano iphezulu.

26:45.923 --> 26:52.192
Ukwaphila kwakhona emva kokuhlaselwa
ngenjongo yezithethe. Ndingathi, "Sika le kliphu!"

26:52.192 --> 26:56.530
UChantal Frei ungumSwitzerland kwaye
usindile kubundlobongela bemikhosi yemilingo.

26:56.530 --> 27:03.543
Kubaluleke kakhulu kuye ukwazisa uluntu
ngobundlobongela bezithethe zosathana, ukuze lo mcimbi

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uvezelwe luluntu kwaye abantwana bethu bakhuselwe kulo.

27:10.385 --> 27:17.150
UChantal wathinjwa esengumntwana omncinci waza
wawa ezandleni zomkhokha wobugqwirha ongenalusini.

27:17.150 --> 27:22.132
Apho wafumana udlwengulo lwemihla ngemihla olwenziwa ngokwenkolo,
olwasemzimbeni, lwengqondo nolwesondo

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njengenxalenye yemikhosi. Utata wakhe weqela elimbi
lentsholongwane wayengumSatanisti owayesenza imikhosi yakhe.

27:28.334 --> 27:32.811
Kwakwenziwa amadini abantwana kulo mqulu wokunqula uSathana.

27:32.811 --> 27:38.527
Ukusukela esemncinci, wayengcungcuthekiswa
njengomkhonzi wocansi ngamaqela ahlukeneyo.

27:38.527 --> 27:45.682
Ineminyaka nje emithandathu ubudala, amaSatanisti agqiba
kwelokuba ayiqeqeshe ukuba ibe yi "Nkosikazi yoMnyama" .

27:45.682 --> 27:54.046
Oku kwakuthetha ukuba kwakufuneka akhathalele ezinye iintsana kulo
mbutho ongendawo aze azilungiselele ukuxhatshazwa okungakumbi.

27:54.046 --> 27:58.853
Kwakufuneka athathe inxaxheba kwizithethe
zobugwenxa nezibingelelo ezingenakubalwa.

27:58.853 --> 28:05.352
Kangangexesha elide, wayengazi nto ngecala elimnyama lobomi
bakhe, njengoko wayenobuntu obwahlukileyo ngenxa

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yokuthuthunjiswa. Xa wayeneminyaka engama-30
ubudala, waphuka ngokwasengqondweni nangokwasemzimbeni.

28:12.132 --> 28:17.093
Kwaza ke iinkumbulo zamava akhe amabi zaqalisa
ukubuya kancinci kancinci engqondweni yakhe.

28:17.093 --> 28:24.940
Emuva kweminyaka, ekugqibeleni wakwazi ukuphuma
kuloo ntlangano imbi waza waqala ukuthetha ngamava akhe.

28:24.940 --> 28:31.394
Namhlanje, uChantal wenza
udliwano-ndlebe kwaye wenza ibali lakhe libe selubala.

28:31.394 --> 28:37.707
Ubalisa amagama amaninzi abenzi bobubi ababekhona
ngexesha lezithethe okanye ababethatha inxaxheba kuzo.

28:37.707 --> 28:44.709
Ngokweengcaciso zakhe, aba baquka oosaziwayo abaninzi
abanjengoKumkanikazi uElizabeth II, uKumkani uFelipe

28:44.709 --> 28:49.542
waseSpain, uGérard Depardieu, uTom Cruise kunye noBill Clinton.

28:49.542 --> 28:55.703
Wabhala iincwadi ezimbini ngamava akhe,
ezinamagama athi "Ndiyathetha!" kunye "Ndiyabuza".

28:55.703 --> 29:02.469
Ngo-2023, wethule iprojekthi ethi
"Iizwi ezingama-50 zoLwaphulo lweSiko".

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Kwiwebhusayithi ethi 50voices.org, abantu
abangama-50 abasindileyo bachaza amava abo abucala

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kakhulu ngogonyamelo lwemisebenzi yenkolo kaSathana.

29:18.096 --> 29:25.892
Ewe, ndicinga ukuba sinonxibelelwano. Molo, Chantal
othandekayo, siyavuya kakhulu ukuba nawe namhlanje.

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Molo, sithandwa sam uLois, enkosi kakhulu
ngesi simemo. Lilizothe kakhulu kum ukuba

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lapha nani namhlanje kwaye sithethe ngale nto.

29:34.936 --> 29:37.312
Kumnandi, enkosi.

29:37.312 --> 29:44.046
Othandekayo Chantal, xa abantu beva ukuba
'iinkumbulo' zamava amabi kangaka zibuya kancinci

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kancinci, badla ngokungabi sanomdla kwangoko:

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Akunakwenzeka ukuba yinyani! Izinto
ezimbi kangaka, uyazi xa oko kusenzekile.

29:54.163 --> 29:58.663
Uthi ntoni kwaba bantu?

29:58.663 --> 30:07.144
Ewe, yinto endiyiva rhoqo leyo. Kodwa
kufuneka nditsho, ayilunganga kwaphela.

30:07.144 --> 30:15.177
Kuba "ulibala" iziganeko ezimbi ngokwenene. – Ngoko ke
"uzilibala", uzilibala kubomi bemihla ngemihla, masithi.

30:15.177 --> 30:16.868
Kutheni kunjalo?

30:16.868 --> 30:24.591
Ngoko ke, ndingathanda ukwabelana nani
ngento esele siyibonile okanye siyivile sonke.

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Ngoko ke masithi ngumntu ofumene ingozi yemoto emandundu kakhulu.

30:29.280 --> 30:38.505
Ngokuqhelekileyo – hayi ngalo lonke ixesha, kodwa
ngokuqhelekileyo – ngexesha lokwenzeka kwesi siganeko,

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lo mntu uyazahlula kuso – oko kukuthi, kule meko – kuba
sibi kakhulu kwaye akanakukwazi ukusamkela ngelo xesha.

30:48.627 --> 30:50.753
Ithetha ntoni "dissociated"?

30:50.753 --> 30:51.634
Uxolo?

30:51.634 --> 30:53.321
Ithetha ntoni "dissociated"?

30:53.321 --> 31:01.376
Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba isiganeko
esenzeka ngoku senzeka ngathi ngaphandle kwakho.

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Ngoko ke awukwazi ukuyamkela ngokwakho, awukwazi ukuyisebenzisa
ngelo xesha. Awuyiqondi into eyenzekayo, kodwa iyenzeka kunjalo.

31:13.331 --> 31:17.400
Kwaye yiyo loo nto le nkqubo ibizwa ngokuba "kukwahlukana".

31:17.400 --> 31:28.860
Kwaye leyo yinkqubo yendalo, kwaye ndingade ndithi
yindlela yokusinda efakwe kuthi bantu, kubo bonke abantu.

31:28.860 --> 31:38.567
Kodwa ayinyamalali nje; iba yinxalenye yento eyaziwa
njengenkumbulo eyenzakalisayo. Inkumbulo eyenzakalisayo

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yenzeka xa kusenzeka izinto ezimbi kakhulu, ezothusayo.

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Kwaye kuphela emva kwexesha elide – ngokuqhelekileyo iintsuku,
ngamanye amaxesha iinyanga, okanye kwimeko yam iminyaka – xa

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isaphinda ivele, oko kukuthi, xa ukulibala okuyijikelezileyo –
ngamanye amazwi, ukulahlekelwa yinkumbulo – kuqala

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ukuphela kancinci kancinci kwaye iinkumbulo zibuye
kancinci kancinci, kulapho ke ibuyela engqondweni.

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Kwaye ke ube nesakhono okanye ithuba
lokusebenza kuyo kancinci kancinci.

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Uze uphinde ukhumbule, nakwiminyaka emva koko.

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Kwaye ke ngequbuliso zonke iinkcukacha
nayo yonke into zibuya, ukhumbula yonke into?

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Ewe, iyavela. Ngoko ke kufuneka uyicinge ngokungathi yingobozi,
kwaye zonke iinkumbulo ezimbi, amava anzima, zifakwa nje kuyo.

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Kuba, xa kuziwa kubundlobongela bemikhosi – kwaye
yile nto sithetha ngayo – maninzi amava

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achukumisayo, kwaye afakwa nje konke kwingobozi enye enkulu.

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Uyazi, kufana noku hlamba iimpahla, ngandlel' ithile kuvele
inkumbulo enye kulandele enye, kwaye ekuqaleni ayinangqiqo

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kwaphela, ngoko ke kufana nokungathi akukho nto ikukhokelayo.

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Yiyo loo nto zifana neziqwengana
zephazili onokuzidibanisa ngokuhamba kwexesha.

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Kodwa eli candelo elinye lepuzzle linemihombiso
eneenkcukacha, kodwa usenokungayiqondi into ekulo

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mfanekiso ukuba awukwazanga ukudibanisa ezinye okwangoku.

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Kulungile. Ewe, oko akunakukholelwa kwaphela.

33:34.800 --> 33:41.116
Kwenzeke ukuba ufumane amava ezinto ezimbi kangaka kwaye
kungabikho mntu ukholelwayo – kuba kunzima kakhulu

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ukukholelwa ukuba le nkqubo yokwahluka kwesimilo iyakho
ngokwenene, oku kucinezelwa kweenkumbulo, esi sifo sokulibala.

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Kodwa zikho nezinye iingxaki,
njengokuba abantu bengakholelwa ukuba nisindile.

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Kwaye yiyo leyo imo emangalisayo yeziganeko ngokwazo.

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Phantse bonke abasindileyo bayaxela ukuba abenzi
bobubi bade babathethe ebusweni: "Akukho mntu uza

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kukukholelwa, oko kuvakala ngathi bubugeza kakhulu."

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UGuido Grandt usand' ukundixelela ngetyala apho umenzi
wobubi wayenxibe njengoMickey Mouse waza wahlukumeza umntwana.

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Kwaye xa umntwana wathetha ngaloo nto waza wathi,
"UMickey Mouse undogqeke," ngokwendalo akukho mntu

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wakholelwayo, kwaye umenzi wobubi uhleka kakhulu.

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Ewe, Chantal, ndiza kukudlalela isicatshulwa
esifutshane sevidiyo emalunga nentshukumo ye-"Satanic Panic".

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Bakuthetha wena phaya.

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Kwaye lo ngumzamo othi
ubundlobongela bemisebenzi yobugqwirha abukho.

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Amaxhoba afuna ingqalelo nje kwaye ayaziyila zonke ezi zinto,
okanye acengwa ukuba akholwe ngabo baphilisi, njalo njalo.

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Ngoku masimamele ngokufutshane.

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"U-Chantal Frei – ukuyibeka lula: nanini na xa kuthethwa ngegama
lakhe – zininzi iividiyo ezimbonisayo, size

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sabonisa isicatshulwa esisuka kwenye yazo
esidlangalaleni kwesinye seentshumayelo zethu.

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Ndisoloko ndinika abantu esi sicatshulwa nje:

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Ngoko ke uthi wayehlukunyezwa ngokwenkolo
kwiKhathedrali yaseBarcelona ngexesha lomsitho wesatani

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"ngabathathu abangama-tenor" kunye noPeter Alexander.

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Andicingi ukuba kukho enye into enokuthethwa ngalo mcimbi.

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Ingaba ikhona enye into ebaluleke kakhulu?

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Ngoko ke, Chantal othandekayo, wena nebali
lakho nibe nexabiso lemizuzwana engama-30

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kuphela kweli qela, baza ke bayeka ukuyikhathalela.

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Akunakuba yinyani ukuba "iitenor ezintathu" kunye noPeter
Alexander bakurhwebeshela ngokwesiko eBarcelona Cathedral.

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Oku kusibuyisela kumxholo
esisandul' ukuxoxa ngawo noSandra Rasch.

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– Ukuba uninzi lwabantu abasindileyo bathi
kubandakanyeka abantu abaziwayo nabakumgangatho ophezulu,

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abanobudlelwane obubanzi kumazwe ngamazwe kwaye baye basithele.

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Ngoko ke Chantal, unazo ngaphezu
kwemizuzwana engama-30 zokuthetha ngaloo nto.

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Ewe, kulungile, sele usitshilo izihlandlo ezimbalwa
ngoku. Akucingakeki kwaphela, kwaye akunakwenzeka.

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Ngoko ke, oku kudlulela ngaphaya komda oqhelekileyo
wezinto, nto leyo eyenza kube nzima ukukukholelwa.

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Kwaye kunjalo, xa usengumntwana uze ube namava aloo nto,
uyalitsindziselwa ngokuphindaphindiweyo, lufakwa nzulu kuwe:

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Ukuba uke wathetha ngayo, akuyi kukuncedi
konke konke, kuba akukho mntu uza kukukholelwa.

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Ewe, yibhulankethi ngenene.

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Ngoko ke, oko kufana nokukhusela abenzi bobubi, kwaye ikwayenye
yeentshaba zabo ezinkulu, into yokuba izinto abazenzayo zinkulu

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kakhulu kwaye zingummangaliso kangangokuba
njengomntu oqhelekileyo – okanye umntu ophila ubomi

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obuqhelekileyo – kunzima ngokwenene nokuzicinga.

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Ewe, kodwa kunjalo nje. Ngoko ke, okokuqala, ndifuna
ukutsho ngenene ukuba andikho apho kwaye andithethi ngamava am

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ukuze abantu abaninzi kangangoko banokwenzeka bandikholelwe.

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Ngoko ke ukuba umntu ofana noBernd Harder
akandikholelwa, akanyanzelekanga ukuba andikholelwe.

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Kodwa mna ndilapha ukukhuthaza abantu ngokwenene ukuba
bazibuze, xa beva into enjalo: Kuthekani ukuba iyinyani ke?

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Nyanisweni, ndiyanibangqela, ndibangqela bonke abo
basaphulaphulayo nababukeleyo ngoku ukuba –

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ukuba nithatha le ndlela – niza kuqonda
ngokukhawuleza ukuba, ngelishwa, oku kusenyanini.

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Ngebhadi, ngebhadi. Kutheni ngebhadi?

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Kuba ngoku kanye, ngalo mzuzu, njengoko
sithetha, kukho abantwana abakwamava oku.

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Kwaye ukuba asimi sijonge le nto size sihlale
sisithi, "Owu, ayinakwenzeka le nto," ngoko

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ke la bantwana baya kuqhubeka beyiva le meko.

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Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba luxanduva lwethu, njengoluntu, ukuba
sijonge – kwaye ndilapha ukuthetha ngale nto

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kuba nam ndiye ndayiphila – kwaye ndingathanda
ngokwenene ukukhuthaza wonke umntu ukuba ajonge.

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Ewe, kwaye ngenene uya kufumana ubungqina bokuba oku yinyani.

38:23.763 --> 38:25.402
Ewe, enkosi, Chantal.

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Ungathanda ukusixelela ngokufutshane ngento owabona eBarcelona?

38:29.067 --> 38:33.880
UBernd Harder uyikhanyele kuba kubonakala ngathi ayinakwenzeka.

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Ewe, ke, eBarcelona kwakunjalo – ndicinga,
ewe, ukuba abantu abaziwayo baqeshe okanye

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barisive yonke iSagrada Família , ekwiziko ledolophu.

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– Kwaye oko kwakungomhla wama-30 ku-Epreli, kwaye
umhla wama-30 ku-Epreli lusuku lokuzalwa lukaSathana

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olubhiyozelwayo, kwaye kwabanjwa isithethe esikhulu kakhulu.

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Ngoko ke, ngaphakathi, lusuku lokuzalwa lukaSathana,
kwaye ngaphandle, kukugqitywa koqeqesho lwam

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ekuthiwa 'nguMama woMnyama' – njengoko sivile ngaphambili.

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Kwaye kulo mcimbi, ndagqithiswa ngabantu
abadumileyo – njengoko uBernd Harder esandul'

39:20.287 --> 39:26.415
ukutsho – "the three tenors" kunye noPeter Alexander.

39:26.415 --> 39:31.491
"IiTenors Ezintathu" – ngelo xesha,
babengakaziwa njenge "ii-tenors ezintathu".

39:31.491 --> 39:36.944
Ngoko ke, babesenza imidlalo okanye
iikonsathi ezahlukeneyo ngelo xesha.

39:36.944 --> 39:41.948
Kodwa ngelo xesha, kwakusele kuthethwa
ngayo ukuba baza kuthi ekugqibeleni badibane.

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Kwiziganeko ezinje, ndiye ndeva
ngokuphindaphindiweyo ukuba kuza kwenzeka ntoni

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kwixesha elizayo okanye zithini izicwangciso zabo.

39:51.058 --> 39:57.089
Ngoko ke bobathathu babekhona apho baza badibana kamva.

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Kwaye kunjalo nakwiindawo apho abantu, abantu abaziwayo,
bamenywa, abangathi babengekaziwa kangako ngelo xesha.

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Kodwa kungenxa kanye yokuba bathatha inxaxheba kwizithethe
ezinje ukuba bathembiswa ukuba baya kufumana umsebenzi wabo.

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Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yile nto yenzekayo nakwi
"The Three Tenors" nazo, kuba ndikholelwa ukuba zaba

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badume kwiminyaka emibini okanye emithathu kamva.

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Akukholeleki.

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Ewe, bekuya kuba phantse kungenzeki ukukholwa
ukuba ngamakhulu, kwaye ngoku kwanamawaka,

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abantu bebengasibanga kanye isibhengezo esinye.

40:37.576 --> 40:42.735
Njengoko benditshilo, ndisandul' ukulungisa
iingxelo eziyi-1,024 ezivela kubasindileyo

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kumaxwebhu am – kwaye kuyoyikeka ngokwenene.

40:45.794 --> 40:53.222
Ngo-2022, bekukho iingxelo zabathinjwa ezingama-27, ngo-2023
bekusele kukho iingxelo ezili-111 ezivela kwabo

40:53.222 --> 41:00.400
basindileyo, ngo-2024 bekukho ezingama-247, kwaye
kulo nyaka sele kukho iingxelo ezintsha ezingama-640.

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Le yikhowu evelayo, kwaye le ndudumo ayibonisi mpawu zokuncipha.

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Yiyo loo nto utata waba nalo eli cebiso
libalaseleyo ngeVetopedia, lokuba abasindileyo

41:10.015 --> 41:13.947
kubundlobongela bemikhosi banokubhalisa kwiVetopedia.

41:13.947 --> 41:20.827
Ifana neWikipedia, kodwa
yi-encyclopaedia yasimahla yamavakalelo aphikisayo.

41:20.827 --> 41:26.707
Ngoko ke, apho unokuhlanganisa zonke ezi ngxelo
kwisiseko sedatha esikhulu samazwe ngamazwe kwaye

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uzibonise. Kwaye le qonga sele ifumaneka ngeelwimi ezingama-21.

41:31.133 --> 41:34.840
Chantal, ndibone ukuba sele uzibhalisile.

41:34.840 --> 41:36.460
Ndicinga ukuba yinto ebalaseleyo.

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Ungathanda ukusixelela thina nabanye abasindileyo
ngokufutshane indlela yokubhalisa, okanye

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mhlawumbi ungathanda ukusibonisa indlela oyingene ngayo?

41:45.479 --> 41:49.392
Ewe, ndingavuya.

41:49.392 --> 41:54.302
Phantsi kwe "Nkohlakalo yezithethe",
kukho iingxelo ezimfutshane zamangqina.

41:54.302 --> 42:04.446
Ungacofa ku-"Record witness reports" ekoneni ephezulu
ngasekunene uze emva koko uphendule imibuzo eyahlukeneyo.

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Okokuqala, isishwankathelo esifutshane sendaba yobomi bakhe,
kodwa kwakhona iindawo zolwaphulo-mthetho apho

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oku kwenzeka khona, namazwe apho abenzi bobubi
babonwe khona – ukuba unqwenela ukufaka olu lwazi.

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Ndicinga ukuba licebo elihle kakhulu kwaye
ndingathanda ngokwenene ukukhuthaza bonke abasindileyo

42:24.044 --> 42:28.260
abanobuganga bokwenza oko ukuba babhale phantsi into ethile.

42:28.260 --> 42:31.080
Ungangena nakho oku ungazichazanga.

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Ineneni kukuphakamisa amazwi ethu
ukubonisa: "Molo, asikodwa, silapha. Siphakamisa

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amazwi ethu kwaye asizukuyeka side sivakale."

42:47.488 --> 42:54.822
Ngoko ke ndikholelwa ukuba siyaviwa –
ndiyakholelwa lonto – kodwa sisalinyelwa lixesha elininzi.

42:54.822 --> 42:59.542
Kwaye eso sisixhobo sokufikelela koku – sibizwa ntoni ke?

42:59.542 --> 43:00.402
Lois: Vetopedia

43:00.402 --> 43:01.320
Ewe, kanye.

43:01.320 --> 43:11.325
Yaye yileyo yindlela yokwenene yokuhlala uselawulweni
lwezinto – kwaye akukho mngcipheko kuwe ekubhaliseni – ukuze

43:11.325 --> 43:16.440
siqhubeke nokuphakamisa amazwi ethu ngokungaguquguqukiyo.

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Ndingathanda ukukhuthaza oku.

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Kuhle kakhulu, enkosi kakhulu
ngokuthatha inxaxheba nangokubhalisa.

43:23.400 --> 43:26.480
Ungazifaka kwakhona imithombo kwiVetopedia.

43:26.480 --> 43:29.792
Apha sibona iincwadi zakho ezimbini
nendawo apho zinoku-odolwa khona.

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Ungakwazi nokufaka iividiyo.

43:31.665 --> 43:37.371
Le yinto ekhethekileyo kakhulu ngeVetopedia, kukuba
imithombo iyakhuselwa, kuba iividiyo ezininzi kakhulu malunga

43:37.371 --> 43:40.976
nogonyamelo lwemikhosi zisoloko zinyamalala kwi-intanethi!

43:40.976 --> 43:51.189
Sele sikwazile ukugcina ezi vidiyo kwiVetopedia yamanye amaxhoba
amaninzi, njengoko sele zinyamalele kwezinye iiplatfomu.

43:51.189 --> 43:57.440
Ewe, enkosi kakhulu, Chantal wam othandekayo, ngokuma
apho uqhubeke nje phambili nangona kunezi zihlaselo zonke.

43:57.440 --> 43:59.020
Ngoku ubuyile nakwiVetopedia!

43:59.020 --> 44:04.133
Ndinibulela ngentliziyo yam yonke nange le ncoko.

44:04.133 --> 44:11.197
Akukho nto, kwaye enkosi kakhulu ngokuzinikela
kwakho nenkxaso yakho kubantu abasindileyo

44:11.197 --> 44:15.600
kubundlobongela bemikhosi yemilingo. Enkosi kakhulu.

44:15.600 --> 44:17.696
Akukho nto.

44:17.696 --> 44:24.349
Ngoku ndingathanda ukutshintshela kuMarcel Polte,
osebenze nabaphilayo abaninzi bobundlobongela

44:24.349 --> 44:28.020
bemikhosi kwaye wonyusa ulwazi ngala lwaphulo-mthetho.

44:28.020 --> 44:29.687
Sika!

44:29.687 --> 44:36.716
Emva kokugqiba isidanga sakhe somthetho, uGqr Marcel
Polte wasebenza iminyaka eli-15 njengommeli kwiifemu

44:36.716 --> 44:41.332
zomthetho zamazwe ngamazwe ezigxile kumthetho wezorhwebo.

44:41.332 --> 44:44.545
Uqhubeka nokusebenza njengommeli namhlanje.

44:44.545 --> 44:48.735
Ukongeza kumsebenzi wakhe wokuba ligqwetha,
wayenewonga lokusebenza njengengcali yengqondo engenguye

44:48.735 --> 44:52.120
ugqirha, ezingisele kwi-psychotherapy, iminyaka eliqela.

44:52.120 --> 45:02.000
Ngale msebenzi, wadibana nomxholo wokuxhatshazwa ngemikhosi
yesatane ngo-2017 kwaye wayefunda ngayo nzulu ukusukela ngoko.

45:02.000 --> 45:06.547
Uphando lwakhe kunye nokudibana kwakhe okuninzi
nabantu abasindileyo kubundlobongela bemisebenzi

45:06.547 --> 45:09.495
yenkolo yesatane kukhokelele kwiincwadi ezintathu:

45:09.495 --> 45:15.151
"Ivolumu 1 neyesi-2 ze'Dark New World Order'
kunye ne'Uncle Sam's: Ingxelo Yomntu Ongaphakathi

45:15.151 --> 45:18.795
Evela Esihogweni soLawulo lweNgqondo lweMonarch'"

45:18.795 --> 45:25.096
Iincwadi zakhe zibonakaliswa luphando
olunzulu kunye nezalathiso ezininzi.

45:25.096 --> 45:32.094
Uye waxhasa nophapasho lwabantu abasindileyo
kubundlobongela bezithethe ngentshayelelo yakhe.

45:32.094 --> 45:39.036
Enye injongo yomsebenzi wakhe kukubonisa indlela ubundlobongela
bezithethe zobusathana kwiinkonzo zobusathana kunye

45:39.036 --> 45:45.370
nenkqubo yokulawula ingqondo eyenziwa ngamajoni
obuntlola afana ne-CIA ezinxulumene ngayo kwaye zisetyenziswa.

45:45.370 --> 45:51.556
Ukunyefiswa nentuthumbo enenkanuko kusetyenziswa apha
ukudala ubuntu obahlukeneyo ebantwaneni nakubantu

45:51.556 --> 45:56.420
abatsha, abathi emva koko bafundiswe ngokufanelekileyo.

46:05.217 --> 46:07.923
Molo, Marcel Polte, uyasiva?

46:07.923 --> 46:10.120
Ewe, ndiyakuvakalelwa kakuhle.

46:10.120 --> 46:15.173
Kuhle kakhulu, siyakwamkela kwi-AZK
yama-22. Kuyavuya ukuba lapha nani.

46:15.173 --> 46:17.880
Enkosi, Lois.

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Sele nivi iingxelo ezimfutshane ezivela
kuSandra Rasch noChantal Frei apha kwi-AZK yama-22.

46:24.666 --> 46:29.139
Wena ngokwakho uye wasebenzisana nabaphilayo abaninzi.

46:29.139 --> 46:36.113
Ungakwazi na ukushwankathela kwintetho emfutshane oko ukutyhileyo
kwiincwadi zakho ngesihloko sobundlobongela

46:36.113 --> 46:43.303
bemikhosi yesatane, kunye nobungqina bakho obusemaphepheni
obunxulumene nokubandakanyeka komkhosi kunye ne-CIA?

46:43.303 --> 46:49.157
Unyakwazi na ukusixelela ngakumbi malunga nolawulo
lwengqondo lwe-MK Ultra njalo njalo? Ungakwazi na ukucacisa

46:49.157 --> 46:54.774
ngokufutshane ukuba yintoni ulawulo lwengqondo lwe-MK Ultra?

46:54.774 --> 46:57.560
Ewe, ndingavuya kakhulu. Ndizakuyenza loo nto.

46:57.560 --> 47:06.228
Kwaye ndiyavuya ukuba nethuba lokubeka
iingxelo zikaSandra noChantal kumxholo obanzi.

47:06.228 --> 47:13.769
Ukuphathwa gadalala ngokwenkolo kunye nolawulo lwengqondo
ziquka ubundlobongela obucwangcisiweyo obungabandakanyi nje

47:13.769 --> 47:18.201
izenzo zomntu ngamnye, kodwa obuzinziswe kwizakhiwo ezinkulu.

47:18.201 --> 47:26.209
Kwiinkonzo ezitshabalalisayo, kwiinkqubo eziyimfihlo
zemikhosi nakumakhasi asebenza kwizizukulwana ngezizukulwana.

47:26.209 --> 47:35.973
Kangangeminyaka emininzi, bendiphanda lo mqulu wemikhosi kaSathana
kwaye ndibhala phantsi indlela ezi ndawo ezidibana ngayo.

47:35.973 --> 47:38.680
Iincwadi zam zishwankathela ezi ziphumo.

47:38.680 --> 47:42.561
Zonke iireferensi zemithombo nobungqina nazo zingafunyanwa apho.

47:42.561 --> 47:49.325
Oku ndikuchazayo ngezantsi kusekelwe kwiingxelo zabantu
abasindileyo abanjengoChantal noSandra, kodwa kananjalo

47:49.325 --> 47:54.201
nakwincwadi eninzi yobungcali evela
koogqirha bengqondo, kumaxwebhu karhulumente

47:54.201 --> 47:57.820
akhutshiweyo, nakuphando lwamazwe ngamazwe.

47:57.820 --> 48:03.498
Kwaye ubundlobongela bemikhosi, kufuneka kuthiwe, bungaphezulu
kunobufanasisi benkolo okanye inkcinezelo enolonwabo.

48:03.498 --> 48:11.948
La ngumsebenzi wobundlobongela oququzelelweyo
ngabom, olandela inkolo yobugqi okanye eyasesathana.

48:11.948 --> 48:18.580
Kwaye kwiintsapho zeekulti, le ajenda ke
idluliselwa kwisizukulwana esilandelayo.

48:18.580 --> 48:25.340
Ukususela ekuzalweni, abantwana banyanzelwa ukuba babe
ngamaxhoba, kodwa kwangaxeshanye babe ngabaphuli-mthetho.

48:25.340 --> 48:33.480
Bayahlukunyezwa, bayaxhatshazwa kwaye bayanyanzelwa ukuba babulale
izilwanyana okanye nkqu nabantu, njengoko sisandul' ukuva.

48:33.480 --> 48:38.745
Injongo engemva koku inamacala
amathathu. Okokuqala, ukutshabalaliswa kobuntu.

48:38.745 --> 48:43.339
Ukwenzakala okukhulu kwengqondo
kubangela ukuba ingqondo yexhoba yahlakazeke.

48:43.339 --> 48:51.037
Kwaye ke, kwisigaba sesibini, kulandela ukwakhiwa kwezahlulo
zobuntu ezinokulawulwa, ezibizwa ngokuba zii-"alters" okanye

48:51.037 --> 48:55.800
izahlulo zangaphakathi, ezithi ke zizalisekise imiyalelo ethile.

48:55.800 --> 49:01.904
Kwakhona, okwesithathu, nto leyo ibalulekile, kukudala
unxulumano nomcinezeli ngokwenza ngobuqhetseba ukuba amaxhoba

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azive enetyala, kodwa kwakhona aloyike kwaye athembeke kuye.

49:05.480 --> 49:10.364
Nantsi indlela amaxhoba abotshelelwa ngayo
kwezi zakhiwo zeenkolo ezimbi ukusukela ekuzalweni.

49:10.364 --> 49:15.164
Kwaye ezi nkqubo bezichazwe
kuphando lwe-trauma amashumi eminyaka.

49:15.164 --> 49:21.940
Iingcali zaseJamani nezamazwe ngamazwe ezifana noMichaela Huber
noGqr. Alison Miller ziqinisekisa le pateni

49:21.940 --> 49:28.910
yokunyanzeliswa ukuba kwahlukane , leyo idla
ngokubonwa rhoqo kwizisulu zobundlobongela bemikhosi.

49:28.910 --> 49:33.874
Kodwa – kwaye oku kubaluleke kakhulu –
ubukho bobundlobongela bemikhosi bunokungqinwa

49:33.874 --> 49:37.993
kungekuphela ngamangqina, kodwa nangedatha.

49:37.993 --> 49:45.423
Iqela Elisebenzayo Ngobundlobongela Bezithethe lenze uphando
oluninzi kwii-psychotherapist eJamani ngo-2005 nango-2007.

49:45.423 --> 49:54.320
Lilonke, amatyala angaphezu kwama-200 achazwa njengathembekileyo.
Oku kubandakanya iingxelo ezingama-42 zokubulawa kwabantu.

49:54.320 --> 50:04.128
Kwaye i-Utah State Task Force on Ritual Abuse
yaqinisekisa izakhiwo ezifanayo e-USA kwasekuqaleni ngo-1992.

50:04.128 --> 50:11.554
Ekugqibeleni – phakathi kwezinye ezininzi – luphando
lweKomishoni ezimeleyo yoPhando loLwaphulo-mthetho

50:11.554 --> 50:15.113
lwezeSondo kwiNtsana (UKASK) eJamani, olupapashwe ngo-2016.

50:15.113 --> 50:21.576
Oku kuphinde kuvavanye amava eengcali zempilo yengqondo
nezentlalo eziyi-174 ezivela eJamani, ezichaze ukuba

50:21.576 --> 50:25.251
bezisebenza nezisulu zodlame olucwangcisiweyo nolweminqwazi.

50:25.251 --> 50:30.336
Kwezi, iipesenti ezingama-69
zamatyala bezinxulumene namaqela obusathana.

50:30.336 --> 50:37.520
Kwaye la manani angqina ukuba asithethi ngezigameko ezizodwa,
kodwa endaweni yoko yinto eyenzeka kwihlabathi

50:37.520 --> 50:45.327
jikelele, eyayirekhodwa kwiimeko zobungcali
kudala phambi kokuba ifumane ingqwalasela yoluntu.

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Ukuze kuqondwe ezi ndlela zobundlobongela bemikhosi, kufuneka
kwakhona umntu azi ngeenkqubo zembali zokulawula ingqondo.

50:51.700 --> 51:01.523
Kwiminyaka yoo-1950, i-CIA yasungula iProjekthi MK-Ultra,
inkqubo yophando eyayijolise ekulawuleni ingqondo yabantu.

51:01.523 --> 51:08.298
I-MK-Ultra ibandakanya iiprojekthi ezingaphantsi kwe-140
ebezibandakanya iimvavanyo ebantwini, apho kwakusetyenziswa

51:08.298 --> 51:13.262
iziyobisi, ingakumbi i-LSD, i-hypnosis, izothuso
zombane, ukuphucwa, kunye nokuphucwa

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kwezivakalisi, oko kukuthi ukuphucwa kwezinto ezivuselelayo.

51:17.133 --> 51:23.140
Kwaye injongo kuko konke oku
yayikukuphuhlisa iindlela zokulawula ingqondo nokuziphatha.

51:23.140 --> 51:29.096
Into ekhomba nje kuphela kumaxwebhu
asemthethweni nge-MK-Ultra, ixeliwe ngabaninzi

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abasindileyo njengamava okwenene kwimeko yesiko.

51:32.680 --> 51:39.012
Kwaye okuchukumisayo kukuba yindlela enye, abantu abajoliswe kubo
abafanayo, kwaye, kwezinye iimeko, ngabenzi bobubi abafanayo.

51:39.012 --> 51:45.993
Kodwa ke, kukwakho nabasindileyo kwinkqubo ye-MK-Ultra
ngokwayo, ngoku ebizwa ngokuba yi-"Project Monarch".

51:45.993 --> 51:52.991
Omnye wabo nguMary Sparrow. Ingxelo yakhe inokufunyanwa kwiphepha
elithi "50 Voices of Ritual Abuse" (https://www.50voices.org/).

51:52.991 --> 51:55.826
Kodwa kananjalo uCathy O'Brien noKatie Groves.

51:55.826 --> 52:04.010
Kwaye sele – oku kukwabalulekile – ngo-1995, abasindileyo be-MK
Ultra babengathethile ubungqina eWashington DC phambi kweKomiti

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yeeNgcebiso malunga noVavanyo lweMitha kwiZinto eziPhilayo.

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Iiminitshi zisenokufunyanwa.
Akukho nanye kwezi ingcamango intsha.

52:13.040 --> 52:19.616
Ingongoma ebalulekileyo yeyokuba ubundlobongela
bemikhosi nemihlomulo kunye ne-MK-Ultra asizinto zahlukileyo.

52:19.616 --> 52:25.700
Badityaniswa yimbono efanayo,
uSathana njengendlela yamandla nolawulo.

52:25.700 --> 52:32.692
Kwaye kuyo yomibini le meko, sifumana nemigaqo esisiseko efanayo,
engukuthotywa ngokupheleleyo komntu ngamnye, ukwenziwa umntu

52:32.692 --> 52:38.574
angathi ayisiyontu ngenxa yobundlobongela
obugqithisileyo, kunye nokudalwa kwezixhobo, oko kukuthi, abantu

52:38.574 --> 52:42.254
abathobela imiyalelo ngaphandle kokuyikhumbula kamva.

52:42.254 --> 52:48.666
Ingcali yengqondo uGqr. Corydon Hammond wathetha
ngokukhululekileyo ngala makhonkco kwasekuqaleni ngo-1992

52:48.666 --> 52:52.420
kwinkomfa kwintetho yakhe ekuthiwa yi-"Greenbaum speech".

52:52.420 --> 52:58.608
Uchaze indlela imibutho yobugqwirha kaSathana neenkqubo zeenkonzo
eziyimfihlo ezisebenzisana ngokusondeleyo ukuze ngabom

52:58.608 --> 53:05.790
zibangele ukwahlukana kwengqondo kwaye zikwazi ukufaka ezi
zakhiwo zobuntu kwizisulu ukuze zenze imisebenzi ethile.

53:05.790 --> 53:11.921
Ngenxa yoko, abaphilayo abaninzi bayaxela ukuba abenzi bobubi
babefumaneka kwiingqameko zombini zomkhosi nezobuntlola,

53:11.921 --> 53:18.244
kodwa kananjalo nakumakholwa afihlakeleyo – ngamanye amazwi,
babe neenkangeleko ezimbini zengcinga enye, ukutsho njalo.

53:18.244 --> 53:24.329
Umzekelo obalaseleyo nguLieutenant Colonel Michael
Aquino, owayekwangumbingeleli oyintloko weTemple of Set.

53:24.329 --> 53:27.780
Abantu abaninzi kusenokwenzeka ukuba bayasazi igama lakhe.

53:27.780 --> 53:29.120
Ngokupheleleyo uyiSatanisti, ewe!

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Isiseko solawulo lolu, umntu angatsho, kukwahlukana, ukwahlulwa.

53:37.616 --> 53:44.240
Ukulimala okugqithisileyo, ngokuyintloko okuphindaphindiweyo,
ekugqibeleni kwahlula ingqondo ibe ngamacandelo ahlukeneyo.

53:44.240 --> 53:50.418
Kwaye la macandelo angaphakathi anokuthi ke
abenzi bobubi bawanike ngokukodwa iindlela ezintsha

53:50.418 --> 53:54.480
zokuzazi, imisebenzi kunye nezinto ezizivuselelayo.

53:54.480 --> 53:59.820
Kwaye ngokufutshane kakhulu ngeendlela ezibaluleke kakhulu
zendlela esebenza ngayo le nto, nendlela ezisetyenziswa ngayo.

53:59.820 --> 54:05.762
Oku, okokuqala, yi-"trauma induction" ngokungcungcuthekiswa,
iintlungu, ukuxhatshazwa, izothuko zombane

54:05.762 --> 54:12.089
okanye kwanamava okuphantse ukufa
njengokutshona; kodwa ikwayi-hypnosis nesiphakamiso.

54:12.089 --> 54:20.912
Yonke le nto idityaniswa neempawu, amanani okanye uthotho
lweeleta, ezifana "neekhowudi zealfabhethi", kulandele ukuswela

54:20.912 --> 54:26.414
iirhitshi, umzekelo kwiitanki okanye
kumagumbi, okufana noko kuboniswe kuthotho lwe

54:26.414 --> 54:29.953
"Stranger Things"; oluphenjelelwe ngamava okwenene.

54:29.953 --> 54:36.067
Emva koko kusiwa iziyobisi, amaxesha amaninzi
kunye nokothuswa ngombane, ukwandisa ukwamkeleka

54:36.067 --> 54:39.540
kweengcebiso, oko kukuthi, isakhono sokuphenjelelwa.

54:39.540 --> 54:46.250
Kwaye kukwakho nesiqheliso esenziwa ngemikhosi, apho
abenzi bobubi benza ngathi bakwinqanaba lokomoya ukuze

54:46.250 --> 54:51.165
bafake kwizisulu zabo ezo zakhiwo zamandla angaphaya kwendalo.

54:51.165 --> 54:57.260
Kuphando lwam, ndiye ndaqhathanisa ezi nkqubo
namaxwebhu e-MK-Ultra akhutshiweyo kwisigcini-mfihlo.

54:57.260 --> 55:01.840
Kwaye iziseko, umntu angathi, zichazwe ngokucacileyo kakhulu.

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Icandelo elingundoqo kwiingxelo ezininzi zezisulu zikwaziwa
njengeenkqubo zokuzitshabalalisa okanye

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zokuzibulala, ezisetyenziselwa ukulawula isisulu
ngonaphakade nokuthintela nakuphi na ukutyhilwa ngale ndlela.

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Ezi nkqubo ke zivuselelwa ngamagama angundoqo okanye iisimboli,
izandi ezithile okanye umculo, okanye unxibelelwano nabantu

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abathile okanye amaziko, umzekelo njengenxalenye yonyango.

55:27.076 --> 55:34.952
Ukuze xa ixhoba lithetha ngamava alo, liqalise
ngequbuliso ukothuka okanye ukuzenzakalisa ngenxa

55:34.952 --> 55:40.231
yokuba inxalenye yalo icwangciselwe ukukhusela inyaniso.

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Ezinye iindima ezidlalwa ngala macandelo angaphakathi
ziquka eyentatheli, eyomohlwayi okanye kwanoyilo-nkqubo.

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Marcel, ndingaphazamisa umzuzwana?

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Akukho nto.

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Sibone iimvumi nabadlali abaye bazibulala. Kwaye uhlala
ucinga, "Baziwa ngoku, banemali. Kutheni bezibulala?"

55:59.700 --> 56:03.650
Ingaba oku kunento yokwenza nale 'nkqubo
yokuzibulala'? Ukuba mhlawumbi bafuna ukutyhila

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iimfihlo, ize ngequbuliso le nkqubo iqalise ukusebenza?

56:06.965 --> 56:12.944
Ewe, lo ngumbuzo ovakalayo kakhulu kwaye kukwayingqwalasela
ebaluleke kakhulu, ingakumbi xa kuziwa kubantu

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abadumileyo, apho, njengoko usandokutsho, abantu bathi:

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Banobutyebi, banikwa ingqalelo, ngokwenene bafanele
babe lonwabile, nokuba oko kuza noxinzelelo oluthile.

56:24.100 --> 56:28.192
Kusenokwenzeka ukuba kwiimeko ezithile –
ingakumbi xa kubonakala ngathi umntu ufuna

56:28.192 --> 56:30.682
ukutyhila iimfihlo – iinkqubo ezinjalo ziqaliswe.

56:30.682 --> 56:34.280
Kakade, kunzima ukuyingqina xa sele kudlule.

56:34.280 --> 56:37.538
Nangona kunjalo, ndikholelwa ukuba la ngamatyala ahlukileyo.

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Kwezinye iimeko, kulula ngokwenene ukuqikelela, ingakumbi
kwabo sele babonakalisile ukuba bangathanda ukuthetha

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ngezinto okanye sele bephakamise imiba ethile ebalulekileyo.

56:50.897 --> 56:54.815
Kwiimeko ezininzi, nangona kunjalo,
kuya kubakho enye into engasemva kwayo.

56:54.815 --> 57:00.754
Kwaye umntu kufuneka azibuze: "Yintoni le
ngxabano inkulu yangaphakathi enoosaziwayo

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ababalaseleyo, ekhokelela ekugqibeleni ekuzibulaleni?"

57:04.668 --> 57:10.537
Noko ke, oku kukhokelela kwiingqukuva ezimnyama
nangakumbi okanye ezimnyama ngokulinganayo, apho umntu

57:10.537 --> 57:14.082
kufuneka azibuze le mibuzo: "Yintoni ixabiso lalo dumo?"

57:14.082 --> 57:21.826
Kwaye ngenxa yoko, ingaba kuvela iingxabano zesazela, okanye
mhlawumbi zikho kwanendlela ezidlulela ngaphaya kwezi ndlela

57:21.826 --> 57:28.984
zokulawula ingqondo, njengoko ndichazile, ukuze kubukhathalwe
abantu abanjalo, masithi, kwinqanaba elinzulu kakhulu?

57:28.984 --> 57:32.266
Kungagqitha umda wale nqaku, kodwa
yingongoma ebaluleke kakhulu, kakhulu.

57:32.266 --> 57:34.273
Enkosi, kulungile kakhulu, ewe.

57:34.273 --> 57:39.656
Ewe, sisuka kwinkqubo yokuzibulala siye kumfanekiso omkhulu.

57:39.656 --> 57:45.456
Okuthetha ukuthi: aba asibobaphuncukileyo baseJamani kuphela,
okanye, njengoChantal Frei, baseSwitzerland, kodwa

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bakwavela nakwamanye amazwe amaninzi, anjenge-United Kingdom,
i-United States, iNetherlands, i-Australia kunye neSwitzerland.

57:52.260 --> 57:59.036
Ngokomgaqo, kunokuthiwa kukho iingxelo ezineepateni
ezifanayo kwihlabathi jikelele – ezishwankathelwe ngokufutshane.

57:59.036 --> 58:02.143
Kwiimeko ezininzi, ngabantu basekhaya abenzi bobubi.

58:02.143 --> 58:06.596
Iindawo zolwaphulo-mthetho ziquka izindlu
zabucala, iicawa, amagumbi angaphantsi

58:06.596 --> 58:09.631
komhlaba, izakhiwo zomkhosi kunye namahlathi.

58:09.631 --> 58:15.996
Emva koko kukho ulawulo lwengqondo, urhwebo ngabantu, iphonografi
yabantwana, ububhanxa kunye nee-snuff films , kodwa kukho

58:15.996 --> 58:20.188
nemiqhagamshelwano phakathi kwezi ziqela
zoncwino zalapha ekuhlaleni, apho le nto

58:20.188 --> 58:23.180
yenzeka khona, kunye namabala amazwe ngamazwe.

58:23.180 --> 58:28.997
Kwaye yonke le nto, ezi zakhiwo, zithi ke ziphinde zidibane
nolwaphulo-mthetho olulungelelanisiweyo, kodwa

58:28.997 --> 58:34.363
kwakhona namacandelo karhulumente okanye
omkhosi apho kwenziwa khona iimvavanyo ebantwini.

58:34.363 --> 58:41.489
Omnye umzekelo okhankanywe nguChantal Frei
yindibaniselwano nesiseko somkhosi wase-US i-"Dagger

58:41.489 --> 58:45.994
Complex" eDarmstadt, apho wafumana amava anjalo khona.

58:45.994 --> 58:51.391
Kodwa uCathy O'Brien, umzekelo, ukwachaza amagama
ezikhululo ezininzi zomkhosi e-USA njengeendawo

58:51.391 --> 58:55.424
zolwaphulo-mthetho, kunye nezikhungo zeNASA, umzekelo.

58:55.424 --> 59:02.661
Kwincwadi yam ethi Uncle Sam's, ndihlalutya iingxelo ezenziwe
nguKatie Groves, oxela kwiividiyo ngamava akhe

59:02.661 --> 59:09.556
kwindawo ekuthiwa yi-'snuff factory' apho
kwakusenziwa iifilimu ezibonisa ukubulawa kwabantwana.

59:09.556 --> 59:15.321
Uchaza indlela aba bantwana ababexhatshazwa
ngayo ngokucwangcisiweyo, bethuthunjiswa kwaye

59:15.321 --> 59:18.726
bebulawe kwiziko elingaphantsi komhlaba eTexas.

59:18.726 --> 59:23.335
Kwaye ngokwengxelo yakhe, eso sikhululo
sasiphantsi kolawulo lwe-CIA, ekutyholwa ukuba iqhuba

59:23.335 --> 59:26.346
umbutho wamazwe ngamazwe wokurhweba ngabantwana.

59:26.346 --> 59:33.936
Uvavanyo lokujonga okukude olwaluyalelwe yena
lwakhwankqisa ubukho besi sakhiwo ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo.

59:33.936 --> 59:41.094
Kwaye nangona la mazwi kunzima ukuwaqinisekisa, ngaphandle
kwecandelo 'lokujonga ukude', kufuneka kuthiwe ayangqinelana

59:41.094 --> 59:47.831
kwiinkcukacha ezininzi neengxelo zabanye abasindileyo,
ingakumbi xa edityaniswe nezinto zemikhosi yesintu, imeko

59:47.831 --> 59:52.151
yomkhosi, kunye neendlela ezintsonkothileyo zokucwangcisa.

59:52.151 --> 59:55.796
Kwezinye iimeko, abasindileyo abangazana
bayakhankanya iindawo ezifanayo okanye

59:55.796 --> 59:59.742
ezithile zolwaphulo-mthetho, okanye abenzi bobubi.

59:59.742 --> 01:00:06.756
Ekuqhubekeni kophando lwam, ndiye ndafaka
nesicelo se-FOIA, oko kukuthi isicelo solwazi phantsi

01:00:06.756 --> 01:00:10.880
koMthetho wama-US weNkululeko yoLwazi, kwi-CIA.

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:19.916
Kwaye ke ndacela ukukhutshwa kwazo zonke iingxelo ezinxulumene
nomhlanguli we-MK-Ultra okhankanywe ngaphambili, uCathy O'Brien.

01:00:19.916 --> 01:00:21.900
Kwaye impendulo ye-CIA inomdla kakhulu.

01:00:21.900 --> 01:00:29.477
Kufundeka ngolu hlobo: "Ukubakho okanye ukungabikho
kwezi zixwebhu akunakungqinwa okanye kuphikiswe."

01:00:29.477 --> 01:00:37.700
Ukubakho okanye ukungabikho kwezithokomane ezinjalo
okwangoku kuyimfihlo kwaye ke ngoko kukhuselwe ekubeni kuchazwe.

01:00:37.700 --> 01:00:43.702
Kwaye ukuba ucinga ngolu phendulo,
kuthetha ukuba ingxelo esemthethweni yile:

01:00:43.702 --> 01:00:50.246
Kubonakala ngathi zikho iifayile, kodwa ngenxa
yezizathu zokhuseleko lwesizwe azinakuchazwa.

01:00:50.246 --> 01:00:55.108
Kungenjalo, bebezakuthi nje, "Akukho zirekhodi
zifunyenweyo." Ngamanye amazwi, "Akukho nto ikhoyo."

01:00:55.108 --> 01:01:00.213
Kwaye into yokuba kukho nantoni na enxulumene
noCathy O'Brien sele iyinkomba eyomeleleyo

01:01:00.213 --> 01:01:04.250
yokuba kukho inyaniso kwibali lakhe, umzekelo.

01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:11.082
Ukongeza kwimiba yengqondo neyobuchwepheshe,
kufuneka kwakhona kuthiwe ukuba imvelaphi

01:01:11.082 --> 01:01:15.914
yokomoya neyeengcinga idlala indima ephambili kakhulu.

01:01:15.914 --> 01:01:21.899
Abenzi bobubi abaninzi bazibona njengenxalenye
yombutho wesatane okanye kaLucifer ofuna ukufumana

01:01:21.899 --> 01:01:25.968
amandla ngokubandezeleka, ukufa nokucinezelwa kwabanye.

01:01:25.968 --> 01:01:29.000
Kubo, le mikhosi ingaphezulu kuneempawu nje.

01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:34.555
Bakholelwa kumandla okanye
kwigunya elinokufunyanwa ngesi sidumbisi.

01:01:34.555 --> 01:01:40.343
Kwaye kungenxa kanye le nkolo edluliselwa
kwizizukulwana ngezizukulwana kwiintsapho zeekulti,

01:01:40.343 --> 01:01:43.083
idibana nombono wehlabathi wabantu abakhethekileyo:

01:01:43.083 --> 01:01:49.842
Okungukuthi, abakhethiweyo – ngokwembono yabo –
baphakame ngaphezu kwabanye abantu – ababoyikayo

01:01:49.842 --> 01:01:53.498
kananjalo, nangona kunjalo, ngenxa yokuba baninzi kunabo.

01:01:53.498 --> 01:01:54.555
Ewe.

01:01:54.555 --> 01:01:59.881
Iziphumo kwizisulu, oko kukuthi
izisulu zezi nkqubo, nazo zibalulekile.

01:01:59.881 --> 01:02:06.417
Bajongene neziphumo zokwenzakala okunzulu zengqondo ezifana
nokwahlukana kwengqondo okuntsonkothileyo , ukubuyela

01:02:06.417 --> 01:02:13.549
emva kwengqondo – okukhankanywe nguSandra noChantal –
iingxaki zokuxhalaba, nokuziphatha okunyanzelekileyo.

01:02:13.549 --> 01:02:17.599
Kusenokubakho izifo zomzimba ngenxa yeminyaka yokuxhatshazwa.

01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.822
Kwaye rhoqo neengxaki ezinzulu zokuzazi.

01:02:20.822 --> 01:02:29.030
Ngenxa yoko, amaxhoba amaninzi aphuhlisa le ndlela
yokuzahlula kwengqondo, njengoko bekujongwe ngabenzi bobubi.

01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:35.976
Ngoko ke uba nengqokelela esisigxina yezo mizwa
zininzi zangaphakathi ezikwabonakala nangaphandle.

01:02:35.976 --> 01:02:43.109
Ngoko ke xa sithetha ngobundlobongela bemisebenzi yenkolo kunye
nokulawulwa kwengqondo – kwaye ngale nto ndisondela esiphelweni –

01:02:43.109 --> 01:02:49.413
ayingomcimbi nje wokutyhila amatyala abantu ngabanye, kodwa
ngumbuzo ongundoqo wokuba la magunya ayazi kangakanani

01:02:49.413 --> 01:02:55.826
ngokuqonda komntu baze bayisebenzise kanjani kakubi le
lwazi ukuze bafikelele kwinjongo ethile ekugqibeleni.

01:02:55.826 --> 01:03:00.923
Okungukuthi, ukusekwa koko bakubona
njengobukhosi behlabathi bobusathana.

01:03:00.923 --> 01:03:05.480
Kungoko kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba sibe nophando oluzimeleyo
malunga nokwahlukana kwengqondo kunye

01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:10.418
nokucwangciswa okusekelwe kwintlekele, nokuba
kubekho iindawo ezikhuselekileyo kwabasindileyo.

01:03:10.418 --> 01:03:17.509
Kodwa kananjalo nesibindi sokusebenzisana ngaphaya kwemida
yamaziko, kuba ukuthula kukhusela kuphela abenzi bobubi.

01:03:17.509 --> 01:03:21.657
Imfundo nokwazisa linyathelo lokuqala ekuphulekeleni le meko.

01:03:21.657 --> 01:03:27.933
Kwaye umsebenzi wam ujongeke nokuba yigalelo
ekuqondeni ngokupheleleyo ezi ndlela zokusebenza.

01:03:27.933 --> 01:03:33.140
Ubundlobongela bemikhosi ayingomba ongabalulekanga, kodwa
yimbonakaliso yento eyenzekayo xa amaqela

01:03:33.140 --> 01:03:37.792
eyimfihlo, anezinto ezimbi, andisa
impembelelo yawo eluntwini lwethu kungaqatshelwanga.

01:03:37.792 --> 01:03:39.113
Ewe, mhlekazi.

01:03:39.113 --> 01:03:44.013
Eso sesinye isizathu sokuba kufuneke
sizijonge, sizithathe nzulu izisulu kwaye

01:03:44.013 --> 01:03:48.326
siqinisekise ukuba ezi ziphumo ziyenziwa zaziwe luluntu.

01:03:48.326 --> 01:03:51.781
Kaloku, oku kusongela inkululeko yomntu ngamnye.

01:03:51.781 --> 01:03:58.773
Ubundlobongela bemisebenzi yenkolo nolawulo lwengqondo, njengoko
sele kukhankanyiwe kwintetho-ntsapho, ziindlela

01:03:58.773 --> 01:04:07.423
zokubonakalisa lo mbono mnye wonakalisayo: wokuba umntu
unokulawulwa, waphulwe, kwaye umphefumlo wakhe uthathwe.

01:04:07.423 --> 01:04:14.475
Kanti ke, inyaniso nganye ephuma elubala, kwaye leyo, masithi,
yicala elihle lalo lonke eli zinto, iyayibuthathisa le nkqubo.

01:04:14.475 --> 01:04:20.325
Ukukhanyiselwa kuqala ekupheleni, apho le nto
ingenakuthethwa siyibeka emazwini kwaye abasindileyo

01:04:20.325 --> 01:04:23.561
ngokukodwa – njengoSandra noChantal – bayathetha.

01:04:23.561 --> 01:04:27.881
Kwaye seso isizathu sokuba amathala anjengala
abaluleke kangaka. Ngoko ke, kwakhona, ndinibulela nonke.

01:04:27.881 --> 01:04:34.388
Kwaye ndingathanda ukubulela wonke umntu
ophulaphulayo ngokuzimisela kwenu ukuphulaphula, kodwa nange

01:04:34.388 --> 01:04:37.956
ukujonga, nangenokungavali amehlo enu. Enkosi kakhulu.

01:04:37.956 --> 01:04:41.996
Ewe! Enkosi!

01:04:43.566 --> 01:04:52.640
Enkosi, Marcel. Ngemizuzwana nje embalwa, uqhagamshele
kakuhle into ethethwe ngutata wam ekuqaleni kwale nkomfa.

01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:59.937
Usandul' ukubonisa, ngophando lwethu lweminyaka engamashumi,
ukuba ezi zakhiwo zifihlakeleyo ekugqibeleni zisuka kwiSatanism.

01:04:59.937 --> 01:05:04.817
Kwaye sivile ezindebeni zabo ukuba bafuna
ukuseka ucwangciso lwehlabathi olusatani.

01:05:04.817 --> 01:05:07.419
Kodwa banqongophele ngobuninzi.

01:05:07.419 --> 01:05:10.935
Sibagqitha kakhulu, ukuba nje singakuqonda oko!

01:05:10.935 --> 01:05:18.014
Ukuba nje ukukhanya kungangena, yonke le ndawo
yobugebenga iza kuwa. Kwaye sikufuphi kakhulu kuloo ndawo.

01:05:18.014 --> 01:05:23.398
Kungoko ke: ukuba nonke nisasaza le ntetho nalo
lonke eli AZK, ukuze kukhanye ukukhanya

01:05:23.398 --> 01:05:28.282
kwenyani, olo lwakhiwo lwehlabathi lwasatani luza kuwa.

01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:40.487
Enkosi ngokulwa kwenu ukwazisa uluntu
nokuzenza zibonakale ezi zenzo zikhohlakeleyo.

01:05:40.487 --> 01:05:47.197
Ababukeli bethu ngoku nabo bazibuza: Kungenzeka
njani ukuba ulwaphulo-mthetho olunjalo

01:05:47.197 --> 01:05:51.826
lungalandelelwe ngamapolisa kwaye lungohlwaywa ziinkundla?

01:05:51.826 --> 01:05:55.626
Kwaye kulo mbuzo, ndingathanda ukujikela ku-Uwe Kranz.

01:05:55.626 --> 01:06:00.595
Uwe Kranz ligosa lamapolisa, umcebisi ophezulu wezikhulu
othathe umhlalaphantsi, kwaye wayesakuba ngumongameli

01:06:00.595 --> 01:06:03.621
we-Ofisi yamaPolisa oLwaphulo-mthetho yaseThuringia State.

01:06:03.621 --> 01:06:06.932
Wayengumgqirha wesizwe e-Europol.

01:06:06.932 --> 01:06:13.180
Njengengcali kwimiba yokhuseleko nobunqolobi,
uhlala epapasha amanqaku kumajelo eendaba amaninzi.

01:06:13.180 --> 01:06:21.688
Uwe Kranz sele elwa ulwaphulo-mthetho olulungelelanisiweyo,
ubugrogrisi nobunqolobi ngaphezu kweminyaka engama-50.

01:06:21.688 --> 01:06:25.820
Ngethuba lakhe ekwisikhundla,
wayezinikele ngokukodwa ekukhuseleni abantwana.

01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:30.388
Oku kuyacaca xa ujonga iinkalo zomsebenzi wakhe wobungcali:

01:06:30.388 --> 01:06:36.689
Wayengummeleli wemicimbi yolutsha, uthintelo lolwaphulo-mthetho,
idabi lokulwa ugonyamelo lwephetshetha olujoliswe ebantwaneni

01:06:36.689 --> 01:06:42.040
kunye nokurhweba ngabantu namalungu omzimba kwinqanaba
lesizwe nelamazwe ngamazwe, kwaye wayebandakanyekile

01:06:42.040 --> 01:06:45.900
kumsebenzi wombutho womgaqo-nkqubo wolwaphulo-mthetho.

01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:51.190
Kwiwebhusayithi yakhe, u-Uwe Kranz upapasha
amanqaku ngemixholo efana "nolwaphulo-mthetho

01:06:51.190 --> 01:06:55.008
lwesondo lwabantwana" kunye "nolawulo lwengqondo".

01:06:55.008 --> 01:06:59.424
Njengomcuphi wolwaphulo-mthetho, unika ulwazi
olunzulu malunga 'norhulumente ofihlakeleyo' kwaye

01:06:59.424 --> 01:07:02.616
uqwalasela iziganeko zehlabathi zangoku esemhlalaphantsi.

01:07:02.616 --> 01:07:08.075
Ukwanikela ngamava nolwazi lwakhe njengelungu nesithethi
kwiindibano zeendaba eziququzelelwe yimibutho edumileyo

01:07:08.075 --> 01:07:14.174
efana ne-Axion Resist kunye ne-MWGFD e.V. (Iingcali
zezoNyango nabaPhengululi bezeMpilo, iNkululeko neDemokhrasi).

01:07:14.174 --> 01:07:20.300
La maziko asekwa ngenjongo yokukhusela impilontle
yabantwana nokukhusela inkululeko nolawulo lomthetho.

01:07:20.300 --> 01:07:24.003
Apha, uthethe ngemixholo equka ulwaphulo-mthetho
lokuxhaphaza abantwana ngokwesondo, ukuqalisa

01:07:24.003 --> 01:07:27.866
abantwana kwimicimbi yesondo, kunye nokurhweba ngabantwana.

01:07:31.904 --> 01:07:41.962
Lilizothe ezikhethekileyo kum ukwamkela lo mphandi
wolwaphulo-mthetho onamava, u-Uwe Kranz, apha kwi-AZK yama-22.

01:07:41.962 --> 01:07:43.994
Iwonga liyam ndedwa.

01:07:43.994 --> 01:07:47.089
Kulungile ukuba lapha.

01:07:47.089 --> 01:07:54.739
Ewe, unamava angamashumi amahlanu eminyaka kuphando
lwobugebengu ekulweni nocalucalulo lwabantwana ngokwesondo.

01:07:54.739 --> 01:08:01.067
Njengomphicithi-mthetho, kwananjengomcebisi ophezulu
wezopolitiko nentloko yeSebe loPhando lwezoLwaphulo-mthetho

01:08:01.067 --> 01:08:04.096
laseThuringia, ubusengaphambili kolu phando.

01:08:04.096 --> 01:08:10.720
Oko kuthetha ukuba iimeko zakuxelelwa wena
waza waziphanda. Kodwa kwenzeka ntoni emva koko?

01:08:10.720 --> 01:08:17.644
Ingxaki yeyokuba ubungqina kufuneka buqale bunikezelwe ukuze
ityala likwazi ukuthunyelwa kwi-ofisi

01:08:17.644 --> 01:08:25.646
yomtshutshisi woluntu, apho buza kwamkelwa baze buguqulwe
bube sisityholo esiza kuziswa phambi kwenkundla.

01:08:25.646 --> 01:08:29.414
Kwaye ngelishwa, zininzi kakhulu iingxaki endleleni.

01:08:29.414 --> 01:08:37.359
Kuyadanisa xa ubanjisa umntu ekuseni
uze uhlangane naye kwakhona emva kwemini.

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:42.240
– Ndikuchazele ngomzekelo: ubanjelwe
ekuseni, ukhululwe emini emaqanda.

01:08:42.240 --> 01:08:51.906
Umzekelo, sihlala sihlangabezana nengxaki yokuba
amapolisa ahlala efika kakhulu kwindawo yokubulawa

01:08:51.906 --> 01:08:57.071
komntu aze aqalise ukuphanda ngokubulawa komntu.

01:08:57.071 --> 01:09:01.578
Kwaye ke, endleleni eya kwi-ofisi yomtshutshisi woluntu,
ukubulala kuba kukwenzakalisa umzimba okhokelela ekufeni.

01:09:01.578 --> 01:09:05.157
Emva koko, phantsi kweemeko ezithile,
ungazifumana sele ukwisimo esahluke ngokupheleleyo

01:09:05.157 --> 01:09:07.780
somthetho kunye neengxaki ezahluke ngokupheleleyo.

01:09:07.780 --> 01:09:16.465
Okanye xa, njengakwityala elisandul' ukwenzeka, abaqhathi abenze
ugonyamelo lweqela baphuma enkundleni becwengela

01:09:16.465 --> 01:09:24.204
bevuyiswa kuba ijaji ingaqinisekanga
ngokupheleleyo ukuba mhlawumbi intombazana ayizange ivume.

01:09:24.204 --> 01:09:27.440
Kulapho yonke le nto iqala khona ukuba ngamathandabuzo.

01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:34.649
Kwaye zininzi kakhulu iindlela zokunqumamisa inkqubo okanye
ukuyiguqula ibe kukwamkelwa kwesigulana sengqondo, njalo njalo.

01:09:34.649 --> 01:09:40.616
Ngoko ke kukho ungquzulwano phakathi
kwishishini, kwaye ngelishwa kunjalo.

01:09:40.616 --> 01:09:45.664
Ezi zibingelo kufuneka ziphathwe ngononophelo nangenzulu.

01:09:45.664 --> 01:09:51.674
Unalo lonke ilungelo lokuphathwa ngendlela
efanelekileyo ngamapolisa nakwinkqubo yezobulungisa.

01:09:51.674 --> 01:09:57.003
Enkosi ngentetho yakho. Ukhankanye kwakhona le nto kuthiwa
'lulwaphulo-mthetho lobu-paedophile' kunye

01:09:57.003 --> 01:10:03.702
nonxibelelwano ekuthiwa lufikelela 'kwiinkokheli
eziphezulu'. Zintoni iingqikelelo zakho ngale nto?

01:10:03.702 --> 01:10:10.340
Ewe, ngoko ke masithi oku kulandelayo: Ndihlala
ndifaka ityala likaDutroux kwiintetho zam zePowerPoint.

01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:13.549
Ngokuqinisekileyo uyayazi ityala likaDutroux.

01:10:13.549 --> 01:10:20.376
Umhlukumezi wabantwana waseBelgium owabulala abantwana abalishumi
elinanye waza wabalambisa ababini de bafa ngelixa wayesejele.

01:10:20.376 --> 01:10:26.025
Kuba akazange atyhile nto ngelixa wayesejele, baza
abantwana bafa yindlala. Lityala eloyikeka ngokwenene.

01:10:26.025 --> 01:10:34.444
Uthotho olupheleleyo lwamangqina luye lwaba sengozini, okanye
lwafa phantsi kweemeko ezithandabuzekayo, okanye nantoni na.

01:10:34.444 --> 01:10:44.745
Kwaye ityala likaDutroux sele lingqine ukuba onke amanqanaba
eluntwini ayebandakanyekile kula maqela okuxhaphaza abantwana.

01:10:44.745 --> 01:10:51.722
Ngoko ke le nto yafikelela phezulu kwezopolitiko,
phezulu kwinkcubeko, kumabonakude nakwamajelo eendaba.

01:10:51.722 --> 01:10:57.353
Inkqubo yayifana nengxaki engundoqo.

01:10:57.353 --> 01:11:00.544
Nokuba ngu-Epstein okanye akanguye, yinto enye kanye.

01:11:00.544 --> 01:11:07.170
E Epstein's, baphinde banonxibelelwano olufikelela phezulu
kwezopolitiko, kushishino lwezolonwabo, kubatshutshisi – ngubani

01:11:07.170 --> 01:11:11.307
owaziyo ukuba yintoni enye – kumagosa aphezulu nakwizopolitiki.

01:11:11.307 --> 01:11:19.631
Benze into efanayo ku "Diddy" Sean Combs, naye owaziwayo kakhulu.
Ngoku sele "evalelwe" iminyaka emine neenyanga ezimbini.

01:11:19.631 --> 01:11:27.703
Enyanisweni, oku kukugxekwa okungenabungozi, kuba lonke icandelo
lolwaphulo-mthetho olulungelelanisiweyo liye lasuswa nje.

01:11:27.703 --> 01:11:31.678
Kwakutshiwo ukuba siza kuyirhoxisa ityala
kwaye simgwebe kuphela ngeso siganeko sinye

01:11:31.678 --> 01:11:34.453
sokuxhaphaza intombi yakhe okanye umfazi wakhe.

01:11:34.453 --> 01:11:39.643
Kwaye ke yonke inkqubo yancitshiswa yaba yinxalenye encinci.

01:11:39.643 --> 01:11:45.815
Kwiimeko ezininzi, iinkqubo ezinjalo zicandwa ngabom.

01:11:45.815 --> 01:11:50.499
Ngo-1995, sasinonyathelo olunzulu lwamatyala
eNgilani. Lwalukwabikwa ziibhanki, oosopolitiki, amajelo

01:11:50.499 --> 01:11:53.506
eendaba, oosozigidigidi nabo bonke abanye abanokwenzeka.

01:11:53.506 --> 01:11:59.056
Ekuhambeni kweminyaka, le nkqubo iye yancipha
yancipha, de ekugqibeleni kwangabikho nto yashiyekayo.

01:11:59.056 --> 01:12:06.293
Ekugqibeleni, la yayingamanyathelo asecaleni nje –
zihlahlelwa zize zicazulwe zibe ngamaqhekeza amancinci,

01:12:06.293 --> 01:12:09.511
ukuthetha ngokomthetho, aze ke kungasali nto ingako.

01:12:09.511 --> 01:12:19.251
Oku ngokwendalo kuvusa urhano lokuba kukho
impembelelo etyhalelwayo apha. Loo nto ayinakugatywa nje.

01:12:19.251 --> 01:12:29.805
Ingaba nawe uyibonile le migaqo kwingingqi yakho, njengoko
kunjalo ngoku nge-Epstein, u-Dutroux, u-P. Diddy njalo njalo?

01:12:29.805 --> 01:12:32.821
Izimiso ziyafana kuyo yonke indawo, kungakhathaliseki ilizwe.

01:12:32.821 --> 01:12:43.708
Kufuneka uqonde ukuba olu lwaphulo-mthetho lokuxhatshazwa
ngokwesondo lwabantwana abancinci, amantombazana kunye nolutsha

01:12:43.708 --> 01:12:49.402
luyenzeka kulo lonke elaseYurophu nakwihlabathi jikelele.

01:12:49.402 --> 01:13:03.140
Ukuba ujonga i-NCMEC, umzekelo – iziko laseMelika lokuxela
abantwana abalahlekileyo nabanxwaxhwayo – kwiminyaka emine

01:13:03.140 --> 01:13:10.562
okanye emihlanu eyadlulayo, yayisenazo iimeko ezingama-50,000.

01:13:10.562 --> 01:13:13.976
Ngoku sinamatyala angama-205,000 axelwa kuthi nyaka ngamnye.

01:13:13.976 --> 01:13:14.667
Kumangalisa!

01:13:14.667 --> 01:13:16.590
Kodwa thina silukhanyana oluncinci.

01:13:16.590 --> 01:13:25.069
Ukuba uthelekisa oko i-NCMEC ikuxelayo ne-Asiya,
ne-Indiya, ne-Pakistan, ke siphantse sibe sezigidini.

01:13:25.069 --> 01:13:30.342
Oku kubonisa ngokucacileyo ukuba yingxaki
yehlabathi jikelele, hayi nje ingxaki yaseJamani,

01:13:30.342 --> 01:13:33.609
hayi nje ingxaki yaseBelgium okanye enye into.

01:13:33.609 --> 01:13:38.126
Ndikwavile nokuba zininzi izifundo ezisesikweni
malunga nokuxhatshazwa kwiinkonzo ezingekho mthethweni.

01:13:38.126 --> 01:13:43.092
Ungakucacisa ngamabinzana ambalwa
ukuba ingxelo esemthethweni ithetha ntoni?

01:13:43.092 --> 01:13:50.827
Zininzi izifundo. Ndikholelwe, zininzi
izifundo ezingenakubalwa kulo mmandla ngokukodwa.

01:13:50.827 --> 01:13:59.517
Mna ngokwam ndabhala izifundo ezibini zePalamente yaseYurophu,
ngo-2020 nango-2021, apho ndadibanisa lonke olu lwazi.

01:13:59.517 --> 01:14:04.643
Ndaza ndathi, "Kulungile, yintoni enokwenziwa
ngcono? Yintoni esinokuyenza ibe lula? Singaqala phi?"

01:14:04.643 --> 01:14:07.276
– Kwaye kuye kwenziwa kanye okuphikisanayo.

01:14:07.276 --> 01:14:13.002
Kuvulwe kwakhona iziko lokulwa
ukuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo kwabantwana.

01:14:13.002 --> 01:14:16.952
Ngoku sinesinye isizinda ecaleni kwe-Europol njalo njalo.

01:14:16.952 --> 01:14:20.912
Sinabameli kuyo yonke indawo kwaye
sinophononongo kuyo yonke indawo.

01:14:20.912 --> 01:14:27.268
Kwakukho uphando olumangalisayo ngo-2011
malunga nokwaziswa kwemigaqo-nkqubo ye-EU

01:14:27.268 --> 01:14:31.392
yokulwa ukuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo kwabantwana.

01:14:31.392 --> 01:14:35.022
Kwaye yavavanywa ngo-2016. Luphando olulungileyo.

01:14:35.022 --> 01:14:38.098
Kwakukho olunye uphando olwenziwe
yi-WeProtect. (https://www.weprotect.org/)

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Yayikwanguphando olulungileyo;
kwakufuneka nje luqhubekekiswe kwaye luphunyezwe.

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Bekufuneka nje kwenziwe into ngako!

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Kwenziwe uphando, olwabhalwa lwaza lwafundeka luyonwabisa,
lunemifanekiso emihle, imizobo emihle kunye nayo yonke loo nto.

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Kodwa ukuphunyezwa ngokubanzi akonelanga.

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Ngoko ke, akukho nje kuphela ukunqongophala kophando
kwimeko ezingaxeliwanga, kodwa kukwakho nokunqongophala

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kwesazela sezopolitiko sokujongana nale micimbi ngokunzulu.

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Asikokuba kukho ukunqongophala kwemithetho, kwaye
ngokuqinisekileyo akukho kunqongophala kwezifundo.

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Hayi, kufuneka uyenze! Kufuneka uyenze kwaye uyafuna ukuyenza!

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Nani niyathetha kakhulu ngemfundo ngesondo
yabantwana abancinci kakhulu kwiindawo zokhathalelo

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lwabantwana esencinci nakwizikolo. Ninokuthini ngaloo nto?

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Ewe, imfundo ngesondo yabantwana abancinci kakhulu yindawo
ekhethekileyo endothusileyo ngokukodwa, kuba yaphuhliswa yi-WHO

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ngentsebenziswano ne-German Federal Centre for Health Education.

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Ukusukela ngomhla we-13 kuFebruwari kulo nyaka (2025),
ibizwa ngokuba yi-"Federal Institute for Public Health".

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Inamalungelo angakumbi ngakumbi, namathuba
angakumbi ngakumbi, kwaye inokwenza okungakumbi

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ngakumbi, ingakumbi xa kuziwa kukhuselo lwemozulu.

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Kwaye aba babini bahlanganise la migaqo-nkqubo malunga
nendlela yoku "fundisa ngesondo" abantwana abancinci.

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Ingcinga esisiseko yile yokuba umntwana – emva kokuba
enokukhutshelwa ngaphandle kude kube ekuzalweni, lelo cala

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elinye lalo – uthwaliswa uphawu lokuba sisidalwa sesondo
kwangoko emva kokuzalwa, esinokuxhatshazwa nangaliphi na ixesha.

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Kwaye yinto ephambeneyo kangangokuba awunakuyicinga.

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Kwaye eyona nto imbi kakhulu yeyokuba ezi zikhokelo
ze-BZgA ezivela kwi-WHO zisekelwe kwiziphumo zenzululwazi.

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Kwaye ngoku nceda jonga kwiziphumo
zenzululwazi uze ubone ukuba ivela phi. Ivela kuKinsey.

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Indoda eyabhala iNgxelo kaKinsey eyaziwayo kakhulu
ngeminyaka yoo-1960, malunga nokukhululeka kwamadoda nabafazi.

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Ukusukela ngoko, izinto ziye zaba mbi ngakumbi.

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Ngelo xesha, ingqikelelo yokuvunyelwa
kwezocansi yayisele iqaliswa ukubunjwa.

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Ukungakhathali ngeentsana kunye nesondo
neentsana kuyenzeka, kuxhaphakile, kwaye kuvumelekile.

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Kwaziswa ulwimi olungamanyala. Kwaye lo
mntu, uKinsey, wenza uthotho lweemvavanyo.

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Kwaye kukho uthotho lweemvavanyo endizibonileyo
apho umntwana oneminyaka emine wahlukunyezwa iiyure

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ezingama-24 ukuze afikelele kwi-orgasms ezingama-27.

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Khawucinge nje ngaloo nto. Wayechaza ukuba ufikelela kuvuthondaba
nanini na xa umntwana ekhwaza, elila, okanye etshikizela –

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eyintuthumbo umntwana oneminyaka emine ubudala kangangeeyure
ezingama-24 de kwenzeke uhlobo oluthile

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lwesenzo somzimba – waza waluchaza olo hlobo
lwesenzo somzimba njengokufikelela kuvuthondaba.

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Kwaye ke kwabakho abo benza le nto,
abaxhaphaza abantwana. Abanye babo

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yayingabapimpisi, abanye yayingamabanjwa awayekhe avalelwa.

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Kufuneka wenze uphando uze ukucuthe konke oko.

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Uze uzithethele: "Molo, yintoni le? Ulwazi lwenzululwazi?"

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Oku kukuxhatshazwa kweentsana okucocekileyo,
ubundlobongela bezesondo obucocekileyo

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obuchasene nabantwana, okwenziwa ngokuzifihla ngophando.

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Waza ke waba nabafundi abangqinelana naye.

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UKinsey wayenaye uKentler emva koko. Kwakukho iNgxelo kaKentler.

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Kwaza kwabakho uSielert. Emva koko
kwaphinda kwabakho omnye, kutshanje.

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Bonke bavela kwisitali esinye seengcinga.

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Kufuneka ucinge. UKinsey uqale yena.

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Emva koko "bazithimba" iiyunivesithi, iikholeji
zobuchwepheshe kunye namaziko oqeqesho olukhethekileyo.

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Kwaye ngoku izizukulwana zeengcali zengqondo zentlalo
nezeenkcubeko kunye nayo nantoni na enye... Ziveliswa

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ngokukhawuleza, enye emva kwenye, kwaye zithatha izikhundla
kwiiofisi zentlalontle nakwii-arhente zemfundo kuyo yonke

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indawo, zisiya phambili zisebenza ngokomoya woqeqesho lwazo.

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Kumangalisa!

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Ngokoluvo lwam, oko akukho ntsingiselo kwaphela.

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Kwaye ukuba ujonga oko kufunwa yile migaqo – ukusuka kwiminyaka
emiselweyo ukuya kwiminyaka emine ubudala, umntwana

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kufuneka afunde ukuzonwabisa ngokwesondo. Ukusuka
kwiminyaka emiselweyo ukuya kwiminyaka emine ubudala!

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Ndiyazibuza, ewe, nguwuphi
utitshala owenza lonto kwaye uyenza njani?

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Kwaye ngoku sinezikhungo zokhathalelo
lwabantwana ezili-17 eSchwäbisch Hall eziseka iindawo

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zokuzihlola komzimba wabo siqu kwizakhiwo zazo.

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Abazali bathi qwa!

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Bebengazi nto ngayo. Bebengaziswanga nako.

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Ngoko ke, ukuba leyo yimfundo ngesondo yabantwana
abancinci, ngoko ke ayinanto ingaphaya kokutshabalalisa usapho.

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Oko kukutshabalalisa usapho.

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Undoqo welizwe, intsimbane yelizwe,
bubudlelwane bosapho obusempilweni.

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Kukho utata, kukho umama, kukho umntwana, kwaye kuphelele apho.

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Kukho iinkalo ezimbini zesini, kwaye kuphelele apho. Ngoku
ndingumntu onobundlongondlongo obugqithisileyo weqela lasekunene.

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Ndiyazi. Kukho into entle nangakumbi,
njengoko uMonika Gruber wakha watsho:

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Kwaye ukuba sinoMzali1 noMzali2, kungekudala
siza kuba noNgunyama1 noNgunyama2 bokhokho.

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Ingaba loo nto nayo iza kwenzeka? Luhlobo nje
lwento yokuqhula, kodwa inyaniso yeyokuba oko

01:20:19.470 --> 01:20:22.758
kwenza yonke le nto ingabonakali njengento enobuntu.

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Ewe, kanye.

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Akusabobuntu kwaye akukho sizotha –
ngokuqinisekileyo hayi kumntwana.

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Nabantwana banesidima. Amalungelo abo nawo kufuneka akhuselwe.

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Kwaye abantwana ngokwenene kufuneka bajongwe
njengabantu abanozuzwana ngokomthetho, hayi

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njengezinto ezinokuthi nje zithathwe zize zilahliwe.

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Ewe! Enkosi ngokucacisa.

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Ngoko ke, bekukho inkalo enye entle kulo mcimbi wonke.

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Yayiyiyunivesithi yaseBielefeld.

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Wenza uphando olubanzi malunga neKinsey,
Kentler and Co. waza wafumanisa ukuba

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yayikukuxhatshazwa kwabantwana ngokwesondo, ngokubanzi.

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Le yayiyintlangano yobugebenga obukhulu ngoku sele isasazeke kuyo
yonke le ziko loqeqesho, apho kwakuziqeqeshwa khona

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iingcali zengqondo zentlalo, iingcali zengqondo,
ootitshala abakhulu kunye nezinye iingcali ezifanayo.

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Kwaye oku kuyaqhubeka. Ngoko ke
kuya kusiba rhoqo ngakumbi nangakumbi.

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Kungoko kungothusi ukufunda kwiimagazini zabazali namhlanje ukuba
yinto eqhelekileyo ukuba abantwana bafundiswe baze

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bakhuliswe ngendlela yokuba kufuneke babe nonxibelelwano
lwesondo phakathi kweminyaka emithandathu nelithoba.

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Kwaye nokuchukumisana ngokwesondo, baze
ngokufihlakeleyo balungiselele iikona ezincinci ezifudumeleyo

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kuyo yonke indawo apho abantwana banokuzimela khona.

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Konke oko kukunceda nje abenzi bobubi.

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Ewe... Uxolo, andinazindaba zilungileyo.

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La ngamava amabi endiye ndaba nawo apho.

01:21:58.309 --> 01:22:07.895
Ndiye ndalwa phantse ubomi bam bonke ukwenza
ugonyamelo lwesondo oluchasene nabantwana lube lutyala.

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Kwaye ngo-2021, emva kweminyaka yomzabalazo, oku ekugqibeleni,
ekugqibeleni, ekugqibeleni kuye kwanyanzeliswa eJamani

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kwinqanaba lokuba ngoku kuthathelwa njengelaphulo-mthetho.

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Kwaye oko kahlala kunjalo ukusukela ngo-2021 ukuya ku-2024.
Emva koko uMnu Buschmann, njengoko wayebizwa ngelo xesha,

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uMphathiswa wezoBulungisa weLiberal, weza waza wakuguqula oko.

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Ngoku kuphinde kwaba lityala lolwaphulo-mthetho.

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Ngoko ke naloo nto ayilotyala lukhulu.

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Ngokoluvo lwam, zonke iinkcazelo ezinikezelwe liSebe
lezoBulungisa ukuthethelela isizathu sokuba olu lwaphulo-mthetho

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lupheliswe, ziyingqwalasela ebuhlungu kwizakhono zabo.

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Ewe, oko ngenene kuyingxelo ebuhlungu ngemeko yezinto.

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Enkosi kakhulu ngokuzinikela kwakho ekuncedeni abantwana,
kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke, ngokwazisa uluntu ngale micimbi.

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Oko kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Kufuneka kwenziwe oko.

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Enkosi ngokuthatha ixesha, nangona ukhwele indlela ngoku.

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Iingxelo zenu zisincede ngokwenene ukuba
sifumane umbono ocacileyo ngalo mcimbi.

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Sikunqwenelela konke okuhle kwizikhathi
zakho ezizayo, kuquka nentlhawo yakho.

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Usaphaphile!

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Enkosi ngomsebenzi wakho wemfundo obalaseleyo. Siyakuthanda!

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Enkosi.

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Ndinqwenela ukuba nawe kwixesha elizayo! Nam ndizakubakho!

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Ewe, wamkelekile nanini na!

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Ngoku sijikela kumlweli ongenamoyika ofanayo, ozibophelele
ekulweni nokuthinjwa kwabantwana, ubundlobongela bemisebenzi

01:23:40.551 --> 01:23:45.315
yenkolo kunye nokurhweba ngabantwana. Dlala le kliphu!

01:23:45.315 --> 01:23:52.006
USabine McNeill wafunda isayensi yekhompyutha
nezibalo waza wasebenza eCERN iminyaka eli-15.

01:23:52.006 --> 01:24:00.150
Emva koko wasebenza njengomququzeleli wemisitho, umyili
wesoftware, umpapashi wewebhu kunye negcisa lezibalo.

01:24:00.150 --> 01:24:07.561
ELondon, wazithandela njengeMcKenzie Friend, into
elingana nomcebisi wezomthetho ongenguye igqwetha.

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Kule nkqubo, wadibana namaxhoba okuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo
kunye namatyala okhuseleko lwabantwana, ababenziwanga

01:24:13.175 --> 01:24:17.297
umonakalo endaweni yokuba bancedwe luluntu lwezobulungisa.

01:24:17.297 --> 01:24:21.184
USabine McNeill waqala ukwazisa ngezi zityholo kwi-intanethi.

01:24:21.184 --> 01:24:27.516
Wasebenza engadinwa ngenxa yabantwana
ababebethathwe kubazali babo ngurhulumente, waze

01:24:27.516 --> 01:24:31.064
walisa le ngxaki nakwiPalamente yaseYurophu.

01:24:31.064 --> 01:24:36.453
"Yiloo nto esilapha namhlanje. Silapha ukucela uncedo."

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Kukho abantwana abakhwaza befuna ukuviwa. Ukuba
awubavi aba bantwana bekhwaza, ngubani oza kubavi?

01:24:44.662 --> 01:24:49.102
Lilonke, uphathise ngamatyala
angangama-50 okuthinjwa kwabantwana.

01:24:49.102 --> 01:24:54.028
Eyona yayidume kakhulu yayiyi "tyala
laseHampstead", apho yapapasha iividiyo ezinezivumelwano

01:24:54.028 --> 01:24:57.414
zobungqina ezivela kubantwana uAlisa noGabriel.

01:24:57.414 --> 01:25:06.914
Kuyo, abantwana bafakazela ukuba utata wabo wayelungelelanisile
umbutho wesatani owawuhlala uxhaphaza kwaye ubulala abantwana.

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Bachaza kwakhona nendlela utata wabo
awayebakhokela ngayo izandla zabo xa bebulala iintsana.

01:25:12.358 --> 01:25:16.031
"Utata wethu usifundisa mna nathi kuba asikwazi ukukwenza."

01:25:16.031 --> 01:25:18.984
Asinanamandla aneleyo okucheba intloko yosana.

01:25:18.984 --> 01:25:26.188
Kufuneka nje abambe imela abeke isandla sakhe phezu kwezethu
asincede sinqumle intloko yosana, kuba efunda ukwenza loo nto.

01:25:26.188 --> 01:25:28.518
Usifundisa mna noGabriel.

01:25:28.518 --> 01:25:35.537
Ngaphandle kwale mibango, utata akazange agwetywe
yinkundla; endaweni yoko, inkundla yamthabatha abantwana

01:25:35.537 --> 01:25:40.678
kumama yaza yamnika utata ilungelo lokuphela lokubakhulisa.

01:25:40.678 --> 01:25:45.929
Kamva, lo mgwebi mnye waqinisekisa nokuba utata
otyholwa ngokuxhaphaza kwityala

01:25:45.929 --> 01:25:50.789
lokuxhatshazwa likaHollie Greig eScotland akazange agwetywe.

01:25:50.789 --> 01:25:56.930
Noko ke, bekukho ukufana kwityala laseHampstead, kungekuphela
nje ngokunxulumene nomgwebi, kodwa nakubenzi bobubi.

01:25:56.930 --> 01:26:02.361
Nangona sekuphumile isigwebo saseHampstead, uSabine
uqhubekile nokusebenza, eqokelela iisayini ezilikhulu

01:26:02.361 --> 01:26:05.906
elinamawaka kwiipetishini kwaye eqokelela ubungqina.

01:26:05.906 --> 01:26:12.789
Ukwenze wakhululeka eluntwini uluhlu
oluqokelelwe ngunina, oluqulathe abenzi bobubi abali-175.

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Oku kwabeka abenzi bobubi kwimeko enzima,
baza ekugqibeleni bamtyhola ngolwaphulo-mthetho.

01:26:18.630 --> 01:26:25.865
Eminyakeni engama-73 ubudala, wathi ke wagwetyelwa
isigwebo eside sentolongo seminyaka elithoba waza

01:26:25.865 --> 01:26:29.773
wathunyelwa eJamani emva kweminyaka emalunga nemine.

01:26:29.773 --> 01:26:32.602
Iiwebhusayithi zabo ezininzi zivaliwe.

01:26:32.602 --> 01:26:37.258
Nangona wayehlukunyezwa entolongweni, uSabine akazange anikezele:

01:26:37.258 --> 01:26:44.117
Uyaqhubeka nokuxhasa amanye amatshantliziyo kumlo
wokulwa ukuxhatshazwa kwabantwana nokurhweba ngabo.

01:26:49.875 --> 01:26:52.680
Molo, molo Sabine. Ndiyakubanga!

01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:57.749
Molo, Lois. Enkosi ngokundiphulaphula.

01:26:57.749 --> 01:27:03.399
Ewe, lihlombe elingakanani ukuba nibe
nitsalela inkcwadi kwi-AZK yama-22 namhlanje!

01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:10.576
Uhambele amaxhoba amaninzi okuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo
yesatane kwaye wakhomba amanye awo kwiifilimu zam.

01:27:10.576 --> 01:27:14.766
Wadibana noomama ababevalelwe
entolongweni ababebethathwe abantwana babo.

01:27:14.766 --> 01:27:19.785
Uyalwela aba bamama kwaye usalwela
njengesingasuka ngenxa yaba bamama nabantwana.

01:27:19.785 --> 01:27:24.678
Nceda usixelele ngokufutshane ngamava akho!

01:27:24.678 --> 01:27:28.115
Ewe, kunzima kuba andazi ukuba mandiqale phi.

01:27:28.115 --> 01:27:34.492
Ixhoba lam lokuqala, endandihlangene nalo,
lalingazange libe nanto yakwenza nabantwana kwaphela.

01:27:34.492 --> 01:27:39.706
Bekukho amadoda kwiNdlu yeeNgwevu apho bendiququzelela imisitho.

01:27:39.706 --> 01:27:45.766
Kuqala kwafika amaxhoba eebhanki neenkundla.

01:27:45.766 --> 01:27:57.930
Kwaza ke ngokubanzi kwafika abafazi, kwalandela
nokufika kwaba bantwana, abaxela eyona nto imbi kunazo zonke.

01:27:57.930 --> 01:28:01.314
Kwaye phambi koko, yonke into yayisele imbi kakhulu.

01:28:01.314 --> 01:28:13.824
Andisoze ndilibale indlela umsebenzi wentlalo waseRomania
athe ngayo ukuba le nto ayinjalo kusapho lwasePortugal

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olunabantwana abahlanu, nto leyo ngebayixolele, masithi.

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Kwaye oko kwakusizi kakhulu, kuyintlekisa kwaye kukukhohlakali.

01:28:26.129 --> 01:28:31.930
Akunakwenza nje ukuma ubukele ungathathi nyathelo.

01:28:34.263 --> 01:28:46.670
Ukuba bendinokukuxelela ngamava am, mhlawumbi elona libi
kakhulu ibe yincoko endaba nayo nomfazi owayenayo le nto

01:28:46.670 --> 01:28:53.560
kuthiwa 'ngendibano yokuvalelisa' nomntwana wakhe omncinci.

01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:59.724
Kwaye ke waba nentlanganiso ekuthiwa
yeyokugqibela phambi kokuba loo nto ithathwe kuye.

01:28:59.724 --> 01:29:07.075
Kuyimfihlo ngokungaqhelekanga.

01:29:07.075 --> 01:29:12.210
Kwaye yinkohliso, iyanyanyisa.

01:29:12.210 --> 01:29:17.958
Ewe, andazi nokuba ndingasebenzisa amawuphi amagama.

01:29:17.958 --> 01:29:22.870
Kulungile, kunzima ukuthi yeyiphi eyona nto imbi kakhulu.

01:29:22.870 --> 01:29:28.495
Ulwaphulo-mthetho kufuneka luhlelwe njani? Ngokwenani labantwana?

01:29:28.495 --> 01:29:34.063
Inkohlakalo eyenziwa kubantwana
okanye inkohlakalo eyenziwa kubazali?

01:29:34.063 --> 01:29:44.321
Amava ombane obomi basejele, apho la ma-ofisa kuthiwa ngawabo
atyhafa amandla awo ngenxa nje yokuba anethuba

01:29:44.321 --> 01:29:55.737
lokwenjenjalo, enza yonke into ngaphandle koko afanele ukuba
akwenzile noko akhuthazwayo kwaye kufunwa kuye, ngokwengcinga.

01:29:55.737 --> 01:30:03.907
Kubi kakhulu kangangokuba unako ukuyitolika,
uyixolele kwaye uyicacise yonke engqondweni yakho kuphela.

01:30:03.907 --> 01:30:10.478
Ukwaxelela nam ngomama owayenabantwana abane abathathwe
kuye, waza umntwana wesihlanu wathathwa entolongweni.

01:30:10.478 --> 01:30:13.876
Ewe, ndambona xa wayekhulelwe entolongweni.

01:30:13.876 --> 01:30:24.650
Akuba ephumile, wandibhalela – kuba kukho le nkonzo
ye-"Email-a-Prisoner" – esithi bamthabathele nengane yakhe.

01:30:24.650 --> 01:30:30.190
Naye owesihlanu? Ewe. Owu, hawu, hawu.

01:30:30.190 --> 01:30:38.030
Kude kube yityala laseHampstead, elona tyala libi
kakhulu yayilusapho lwaseNigeria olunabantwana abasixhenxe.

01:30:38.030 --> 01:30:39.655
Bonke abantwana bathathwe.

01:30:39.655 --> 01:30:48.476
Ngale misebenzi yobudenge kwezi nkundla
zithi zingezosapho, ezigcinwe ziyimfihlo.

01:30:48.476 --> 01:30:52.600
Ngoko ke, amaphephandaba akavumelekanga
ukungena. Kwaye bekunjalo amashumi eminyaka.

01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:54.344
Kwaye owesixhenxe wazalelwa entolongweni.

01:30:54.344 --> 01:31:01.218
Kwaye bendikwancokola nomama waseMelika
okwiselula esecaleni, obantwana bakhe babesele eLondon.

01:31:01.218 --> 01:31:07.358
Kwaye emva kokuba kuthunyelwe kumazwe
angaphandle, nangona bendincede ngako konke.

01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:13.507
Umfazi waseMelika wafumana kanye
oko wafumanayo umfazi waseNigeria.

01:31:13.507 --> 01:31:19.366
Kwaye njengoko umsebenzi wezentlalo
watshoyo: "Ewe, awusoze uphinde umbona."

01:31:19.366 --> 01:31:29.530
Kwaye eyona nto "inkulu" yayikukuba intombi emdala yosapho
yayingcungcuthekiswa ngunyana wosapho awayekhulela kulo.

01:31:29.530 --> 01:31:34.847
Intombi elandelayo yatshela umama wayo ukuba
ibisoloko ithuthwa iye kwiziganeko

01:31:34.847 --> 01:31:38.970
ezikrokrisayo ngokuhlwa apho bekukho amadoda kuphela.

01:31:38.970 --> 01:31:45.200
Kwaye unyana omncinci wabuza umama
wakhe ukuba yintoni i-paedophilia.

01:31:45.200 --> 01:31:50.023
Kwenzeka ntoni emva koko, xa wawusentolongweni?

01:31:50.023 --> 01:31:54.310
Kulungile, xa ndandisesentolongweni, ndapapasha isicelo.

01:31:54.310 --> 01:31:57.911
Kwaye apho ndandinazo iisayini ezili-16,000 nangaphezulu.

01:31:57.911 --> 01:32:08.278
Kwaye ndiye ndafumana nabantu abangaphezu kwe-100,000
abaye bajonga iwebhusayithi yam, endandiyenzele abantwana.

01:32:08.278 --> 01:32:12.762
Ndenze amaphepha ewebhu ngabanye kwiimeko ezimbi kakhulu.

01:32:12.762 --> 01:32:15.076
Kwaye yiyo lonto ndaba ngumntu owaziwayo kancinci.

01:32:15.076 --> 01:32:21.505
Kwaye le yibhegi enazo zonke iikhadana endizifumeneyo,
endizisebenzisileyo ukuhombisa udonga lwecala lam.

01:32:21.505 --> 01:32:24.293
Andizange ndikwazi ukwenza intsimbi ngayo.

01:32:24.293 --> 01:32:27.301
Kodwa ke andizange ndifune ukuzilahla.

01:32:27.301 --> 01:32:34.190
Owu, Sabine, siyavuya kakhulu kuba ufumene
olu khuthazo, kwaye uza kuqhubeka ulufumana.

01:32:34.190 --> 01:32:39.373
Kwandothusa kakhulu ukubona ngamehlo
am, indlela umntwana asuswa ngayo.

01:32:39.373 --> 01:32:42.476
Ndiza kusibonisa loo nto ngokufutshane.

01:32:42.476 --> 01:32:44.731
"Ngoko ke, unokhetho olunye kuphela kule meko."

01:32:44.731 --> 01:32:49.263
Kufuneka umnikele kunyangi-mkhawulo, uze emva
koko uqhubeke nokuhamba kwakho ngovuyo

01:32:49.263 --> 01:32:52.200
nabahlobo bakho nosapho lwakho abalindele ngaphandle.

01:32:52.200 --> 01:32:55.434
Okanye ndiza kukususa kwaye uza kuya entolongweni.

01:32:55.434 --> 01:32:58.069
Kufuneka wenze esi sigqibo. Kufuneka usenze ngoku.

01:32:58.069 --> 01:33:01.830
"Andizukumkhulula."

01:33:01.830 --> 01:33:07.102
Kulungile. Kulungile.

01:33:07.102 --> 01:33:13.710
Nceda mkhulule ukuze angonzakali,
kulungile? Yiza apha umzuzwana. Kulungile.

01:33:13.710 --> 01:33:17.716
"Ndimkhululile. Ndimkhululile!"

01:33:17.716 --> 01:33:20.028
"Hayi, uya entolongweni."

01:33:20.028 --> 01:33:22.639
"Bendifuna nje ukuthi andikwazanga
ukuyenza, kodwa ndimvumele ukuba ayenze kunjalo."

01:33:22.639 --> 01:33:25.606
"Faka izandla zakho ngasemva."

01:33:25.606 --> 01:33:31.341
"Bavale ucango lwe-ambulensi. Yiloo nto ndiyibonayo yokugqibela."

01:33:31.341 --> 01:33:33.676
"Uphanga umzukulwana wam."

01:33:33.676 --> 01:33:36.748
"Hayi, ngena emotweni. Ngena emotweni. Konke kulungile."

01:33:36.748 --> 01:33:39.011
"Ndifuna ukuxela undwendwele." "Kulungile. Ngena emotweni."

01:33:39.011 --> 01:33:41.851
"Ndifuna ukuxela undwendwele." "Uyenza imeko ibe mbi ngakumbi."

01:33:41.851 --> 01:33:45.473
Lonke umntwana uxabiseke malunga nesigidi seeponti kurhulumente.

01:33:45.473 --> 01:33:47.846
Ngoko ke ngulo umakhulu womntwana.

01:33:47.846 --> 01:33:51.396
Kuyinkohlakalo kwaye kubi kakhulu.

01:33:51.396 --> 01:33:54.258
Nditsho, benza nje umsebenzi wabo, akunjalo?

01:33:54.258 --> 01:34:00.289
Kufana ncam nexesha lobukhosi bamaNazi, kangangoko kunokucaciswa.

01:34:00.289 --> 01:34:05.006
Bavele benza imiyalelo kwaye sele beqhuba ngokuzenzekelayo.

01:34:05.006 --> 01:34:06.788
Abanawo iimvakalelo zabo.

01:34:06.788 --> 01:34:08.444
Abasazi okusemthethweni.

01:34:08.444 --> 01:34:13.111
Ewe. Ivela phezulu. Lo msebenzi
wonke wokurhweba ngabantwana uyaxhaswa.

01:34:13.111 --> 01:34:15.398
Ungakuqinisekisa naloo nto?

01:34:15.398 --> 01:34:19.123
Ewe, ewe, ngoko ke ukusuka phezulu,
kungakhathaliseki ukuba yeyiphi inxalenye.

01:34:19.123 --> 01:34:22.319
Abasebenzi bentlalo abanakukwazi ukwenza
umsebenzi wabo ngaphandle kwamapolisa.

01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.990
Amapolisa akanakukwenza oko ngaphandle kweenkundla.

01:34:25.990 --> 01:34:31.330
Ewe. Ungumngqina owabon' ngokwakho konke oku.

01:34:31.330 --> 01:34:33.209
Ungatsho lonto.

01:34:33.209 --> 01:34:38.858
Ewe, singathanda ukubulela kakhulu
ngokuzinikela kwenu kwezi zithandwa nabantwana.

01:34:38.858 --> 01:34:52.510
Simise iqonga, iVetopedia, apho aba bamama banokubhalisa khona
baze bakhange ukususwa kwabantwana babo kunyanzeliso lwabo.

01:34:52.510 --> 01:34:56.703
Ukuze nathi sikwazi ukufumana
ukuqonda okungcono ngenkqubo esemva kwayo.

01:34:56.703 --> 01:35:05.410
Siya kuvuya kakhulu, Sabine wethu, ukuba
ungayisasaza le ndaba kwaye wazise abantu abakuthiweni lwakho.

01:35:05.410 --> 01:35:10.332
Ewe, into oyenzayo iyamangalisa. Imnandi
ngokwenene, ngokwenene. Enkosi ngokundiphulaphula.

01:35:10.332 --> 01:35:16.685
Ewe, enkosi kakhulu ngokuzinikela kwakho kula
mama nabantwana! Oko kumangalisa ngokwenene.

01:35:16.685 --> 01:35:21.683
Ngokuqinisekileyo siza kusasaza ilizwi,
sithandwa sethu uSabine McNiell. Kwaye siyakuthanda.

01:35:21.683 --> 01:35:32.870
Enkosi. Nam. Ndiyakuhlonipha kakhulu ngako konke
okwenzileyo nokuqhubeka ukwenza. Kwaye ndiyakuncoma.

01:35:32.870 --> 01:35:41.990
Ewe. Ukwimeko efanayo kanye nathi.
Awoyiki kwaye unesibindi kakhulu. Ayikholeleki.

01:35:41.990 --> 01:35:49.110
Ngaba ikhona enye into ongathanda
ukuyithetha kubaphulaphuli base-AZK? Nantoni na?

01:35:49.110 --> 01:35:53.127
Ngoko ke, i-AZK imalunga nokucenshwa.

01:35:53.127 --> 01:35:57.826
Kwaye ndiyathemba nje ukuba akukho mntu wumbi oza
kufumana into efanayo naleyo yenzeka kum ngenxa

01:35:57.826 --> 01:36:00.470
yalo lonke umsebenzi endiwufakileyo kwi-intanethi.

01:36:00.470 --> 01:36:07.023
Oko kubangele umonakalo omkhulu kum nakwamaxhoba.

01:36:07.023 --> 01:36:16.210
Ucenzipso lufuduselwe nje kwinqanaba ledijithali.

01:36:16.210 --> 01:36:20.566
Kwaye kubi, kubi, kubi, okwenzekayo.

01:36:20.566 --> 01:36:24.305
Kodwa ke xa sithetha ngokubanzi, akunakwenzeka ukucinga.

01:36:24.305 --> 01:36:31.910
Akukho mntu ufuna ukwazi iimvakalelo namava amabi.

01:36:31.910 --> 01:36:36.503
Ewe, zonke amaphepha akho asekhaya zisusiwe nje kwi-intanethi.

01:36:36.503 --> 01:36:44.102
Wonke umsebenzi wakho wamaxhoba utshitshisiwe
waza wacinywa. Kuyoyikeka kakhulu. Ngelishwa, ewe.

01:36:44.102 --> 01:36:48.352
Kodwa kuza kuphuma elubala, kuza
kwaziwa luluntu, sithandwa sam uSabine.

01:36:48.352 --> 01:36:50.895
Kwaye yonke i-AZK iyakuqinisekisa oku. Akunjalo?

01:36:50.895 --> 01:36:54.236
Ewe!

01:37:04.086 --> 01:37:08.444
USabine sele eneminyaka engama-81 ubudala
kwaye uye wabandezeleka kakhulu ebomini bakhe.

01:37:08.444 --> 01:37:12.437
Bekumnandi ngokwenene ukuba akwazile ukwabelana nathi ngale nto.

01:37:12.437 --> 01:37:15.232
Kwaye oko kwandichukumisa kakhulu.

01:37:15.232 --> 01:37:22.966
Kwaye ngoku singathanda ukuqhubeka netyala
elisandul' ukupapashwa kwi-Vetopedia nguCorinne Ioli.

01:37:22.966 --> 01:37:28.358
Abantwana bakhe bathathwe kuye. Nqam!

01:37:28.358 --> 01:37:33.296
I-Vetopedia inika abantu ilizwi xa bethe cwaka.

01:37:33.296 --> 01:37:37.090
Oku kudla ngokwenzeka, ingakumbi kubantwana abangeniswe kunyango.

01:37:37.090 --> 01:37:42.574
Ngokukodwa oomama abangama-single baye
bashiyeka bemangalisiwe lixesha ngamanye lulwakhiwo

01:37:42.574 --> 01:37:46.204
lwezomthetho olubathathe abantwana babo ngenkani.

01:37:46.204 --> 01:37:54.017
Ngokwezibalo ezisemthethweni, umyinge wabantwana abali-100
bahlukaniswa nabazali babo yonke imihla eJamani kuphela.

01:37:54.017 --> 01:37:58.214
I-Vetopedia ngoku ikunika ithuba
lokwenza isizathu sakho saziwe luluntu.

01:37:58.214 --> 01:38:03.686
Omnye umama owaxhamla eli thuba nguCorinne Ioli.

01:38:03.686 --> 01:38:05.787
UCorinne Ioli ungumSwisi.

01:38:05.787 --> 01:38:11.265
Ngo-2019, iintombi zakhe ezimbini zathathwa kuye ngenkani.

01:38:11.265 --> 01:38:15.944
Abantu abasibhozo, kuquka amapolisa nabasebenzi
be-KESB , bangene ngamandla kwiflethi yakhe

01:38:15.944 --> 01:38:19.051
baza bathatha abantwana babasa kwikhaya labantwana.

01:38:19.051 --> 01:38:25.517
Utata womntwana, uCorinne Ioli
ahlukene naye, ufake isikhalazo ngaye.

01:38:25.517 --> 01:38:31.326
Izizathu yayizityholo ezingenasiseko,
zonke ezo zityholo zaphikiswa ziingcali.

01:38:31.326 --> 01:38:37.009
Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, nangona kunjalo, inkundla yaseSwitzerland
iye yaliphosa elubala ubungqina

01:38:37.009 --> 01:38:44.678
obungenakuphikiswa kuzo zonke iimeko kwaye ixhasa utata
womntwana, ozama ukubamba unina ngamatyala obugebenga.

01:38:44.678 --> 01:38:52.890
Oku kwandulelwe lutshintsho kwindlela abantombi
ababeyiphatha ngayo utata wabo xa babesahlala naye nonina.

01:38:52.890 --> 01:39:00.657
Baye bakwala nayiphi na intlobano yomzimba baza
bazikhusela kumalinge okusondela ngokukrwela, ukuluma nokubetha.

01:39:00.657 --> 01:39:04.537
Kwangaxeshanye, utata womntwana waqala
ukuba neminqweno yokwenza isondo nabantwana.

01:39:04.537 --> 01:39:08.966
Ezi ziganeko zenza uCorinne Ioli wahlukana noyise.

01:39:08.966 --> 01:39:13.695
Wabe esemxela ngenxa yokubeka esichengeni impilontle yomntwana.

01:39:13.695 --> 01:39:19.320
Akukho mntu wakhathalele iindlela zikayise
ezichulumancisayo okanye wenza naluphi na uphando.

01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:25.345
Ngokwahlukileyo. Umkhathaleli kwikhaya apho
abantwana babephila khona waphawula ngolu hlobo:

01:39:25.345 --> 01:39:31.208
"Nokuba utata uyaxhaphaza abantwana bakhe,
basamthanda" kunye nokuthi "uninzi lwamadoda lunamaphupha

01:39:31.208 --> 01:39:35.622
okuxhaphaza abantwana, kodwa aluqhelanga ukwenza njalo."

01:39:35.622 --> 01:39:40.440
Lo mkhathaleli ngoku uyintombi entsha katata.

01:39:40.440 --> 01:39:47.793
Ngo-2021, wafumana umyalelo wokuzithiba ngokupheleleyo
obhekisele kunkosikazi wakhe, oqhubeka usebenza nanamhlanje.

01:39:47.793 --> 01:39:54.503
Umgwebi ke wasusa ilungelo
lokunyamekela kumama walidlulisela kuyise.

01:39:54.503 --> 01:40:01.508
NgoSeptemba ka-2024, utata wafudukela eSweden ekunye
nesithandwa sakhe esitsha kunye namantombazana akhe amabini.

01:40:01.508 --> 01:40:05.319
Nanamhlanje, uCorinne Ioli uyaqhubeka
nokulwela amalungelo akhe njengomama.

01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:12.055
Inyusa ulwazi kwaye ityhila amaqhinga angasemva
kokuthinjwa kwabantwana okungekho mthethweni.

01:40:12.055 --> 01:40:19.507
Ulwazi oluthe vetshe lunokufunyanwa
kwiiwebhusayithi zabo www.kinder-zurueck-nach-hause.ch

01:40:19.507 --> 01:40:23.945
kunye ne-www.MamaLoveCollection.com .

01:40:30.275 --> 01:40:32.949
Molo, Corinne othandekayo. Molo, Lois othandekayo.

01:40:32.949 --> 01:40:39.529
Uthe wothuka kakhulu xa usiva loo
nto. Ingaba into enje ingenzeka njani?

01:40:39.529 --> 01:40:47.671
Olu hlobo lokubekwa okubizwa ngokuba kukugwenxa
lubhekiselele kwi-"Parental Alienation Syndrome", i-PAS.

01:40:47.671 --> 01:40:53.222
I-PAS yasekwa nguRichard Gardner,
owayeyingqopholweni yokukhulelwa abantwana.

01:40:53.222 --> 01:41:02.502
I-PAS ithi ukuba umntwana akamkeli utata wakhe ngenxa yokwahlukana
kwabazali kunye/okanye ade axele ukuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo

01:41:02.502 --> 01:41:07.419
ngutata wakhe, ngoko ke – ngokwe-PAS – umntwana ubuxoki.

01:41:07.419 --> 01:41:10.423
Umama waye eluqhile ukuze kube njalo.

01:41:10.423 --> 01:41:17.349
Ubudlelwane phakathi komama nomntwana busondelelene kakhulu,
phantse bube yinto enye, ngoko ke umntwana

01:41:17.349 --> 01:41:24.902
kufuneka asuswe kunyango lukamama, abekwe
kuyise kwaye unxibelelwano nomama lwunqunyulwe.

01:41:24.902 --> 01:41:32.550
Ityala lethu linezinto zonke ze-PAS. Umxholo wobufebe lwabantwana
ngendlela yamaphupha angamxhelo wobufebe lwabantwana.

01:41:32.550 --> 01:41:41.629
Nangona kunjalo, i-PAS ikwasetyenziswa xa kukho
ubungqina obungenakuphikiswa bokudlwengulwa komntwana utata.

01:41:41.629 --> 01:41:48.084
Kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuba
ubungakanani bokudlwengulwa kwabantwana buyoyikeka.

01:41:48.084 --> 01:41:54.697
Ingakumbi kwimeko yosapho, oko kukuthi,
ngokuphindaphindiweyo, iminyaka emininzi.

01:41:54.697 --> 01:42:03.834
Sikwazi nokuba kwizityholo ezilikhulu
lokuxhatshazwa kwabantwana, zimbini kuphela ezenziweyo.

01:42:03.834 --> 01:42:07.956
Loo nto yayiyiphando leSebe lezoBulungisa laseFransi.

01:42:07.956 --> 01:42:15.942
Intsomi yokuba oomama bayayila ingcinezelo
ngokucacileyo yindlela yokukhusela abenzi bobubi.

01:42:15.942 --> 01:42:23.654
Ah, kulungile ke. Ngoko ke ungatsho ukuba i-PAS luhlobo
lwesihlangu esikhuselayo sabahlaseli bebantwana ngokwesondo?

01:42:23.654 --> 01:42:25.894
Kanye, yiyo leyo.

01:42:25.894 --> 01:42:34.537
Oomama nabantwana baboniswa njengamangeli,
bathulisiwe, kwaye sityhalelwa kwisithiyelo zamatyala ngamnye.

01:42:34.537 --> 01:42:37.512
Asingomabali awodwa.

01:42:37.512 --> 01:42:42.215
Siyaziqhelanise neemodyuli zombhalo ezifanayo
kunye namagama angundoqo asetyenziswa

01:42:42.215 --> 01:42:46.010
kumazwe ngamazwe kwiingxelo zeengcali nakwizigwebo.

01:42:46.010 --> 01:42:50.791
Kwaye sikwabona lo mkhukula mkhulu ofanayo kumazwe
ngamazwe, owenziwa ngabantu abakwizikhundla,

01:42:50.791 --> 01:42:55.174
obhekiswe kubo omama abazama ukukhusela abantwana babo.

01:42:55.174 --> 01:43:01.222
I-PAS kunye noku suswa kwabantwana okungekho
mthethweni kubangela ukwenzakala okunzulu emoyeni kubantwana

01:43:01.222 --> 01:43:05.406
nakubamama, kude kukhokelele ekwahlukaneni kwengqondo.

01:43:05.406 --> 01:43:13.472
Ngathi oko akwanelanga, oomama abazama ukukhusela abantwana babo
bajongana nophanga olungekho mthethweni kuwo onke

01:43:13.472 --> 01:43:21.690
amanqanaba, ngokomsebenzi, ngokwentlalo,
nangokwezimali, bade bafikelele nakwimeko yokuphelelwa ziindlu.

01:43:21.690 --> 01:43:27.821
Kuba kutheni abenzi bobubi bephuncuka
ngokwenene, njengoko umtyholi ephuncuka emanzini angcwele?

01:43:27.821 --> 01:43:36.430
Okokuqala, kukho abantwana abanobudlelwane obusempilweni noomama
babo kwaye babaxelela ngalo lonke uhlazo abalufumeneyo, kwaye

01:43:36.430 --> 01:43:46.718
okwesibini, ewe, kukho oomama abasinda kolu suso lwabantwana,
badibana benxulumana kwaye bathetha ngako. Esidlangalaleni.

01:43:46.718 --> 01:43:52.065
Kwenzeka ukugwenxa okusembindini womkhohlakalo apha.

01:43:52.065 --> 01:43:54.765
Kwaye kufuneka siphinde siyijike le nto.

01:43:54.765 --> 01:43:57.925
Bafuna sithule, ngoko ke sithetha.

01:43:57.925 --> 01:44:02.886
Bafuna ukusitshonisa, ngoko ke masingavumeli basoyise.

01:44:02.886 --> 01:44:07.690
Ewe. Kuhle kakhulu, kakhulu.

01:44:07.690 --> 01:44:11.814
Oko kunzima kakhulu, nangona kunjalo.

01:44:11.814 --> 01:44:17.777
Kwaye kumalunga nokuziphakamisela ngamandla akho yonke imihla.

01:44:17.777 --> 01:44:20.538
Ewe kunjalo, ukuthanda abantwana kuyanceda koku.

01:44:20.538 --> 01:44:24.806
Kwaye ke lufika uncedo. Kwaye sixhomekeke kolu ncedo.

01:44:24.806 --> 01:44:29.618
Ewe, enkosi kakhulu.
Mandishwankathele into endiyiqondileyo okwangoku:

01:44:29.618 --> 01:44:35.590
I-PAS yingqikelelo enikwe inkangeleko
yokuba isemthethweni ngokwenzululwazi.

01:44:35.590 --> 01:44:43.949
Yadalwa ngumenzi wobubi ngenjongo yokuzenza abangamanga
amaxhoba ukuze bazikhusele bona kunye nabanye abenzi bobubi.

01:44:43.949 --> 01:44:49.262
Loo nto iyandaziwa kakhulu kum, kuba siyayazi into
efanayo evela kwi-False Memory Syndrome Foundation.

01:44:49.262 --> 01:44:52.480
Ngoko ke, into malunga neenkumbulo
zobuxoki, kukuba yonke into iphosakele.

01:44:52.480 --> 01:44:56.527
Ngaba ikhona na inxulumano phakathi
kwe-PAS ne-FMS (iFalse Memory Syndrome)?

01:44:56.527 --> 01:45:03.211
Ngokuqinisekileyo. URichard Gardner, njengoko
benditshilo, umqambi we-PAS, wayeyipaedophile ngokwakhe.

01:45:03.211 --> 01:45:14.218
Abazali abaseka i-False Memory Syndrome Foundation yayingabazali
abebekwe ityala lokuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo ngabantwana babo.

01:45:14.218 --> 01:45:19.140
Kukho ukufana okukhulu phakathi kwezi zifundo zimbini.

01:45:19.140 --> 01:45:28.391
Kwaye siyazi ngamatyala ekuhlaleni nakwamanye amazwe okuphunywa
kwabantwana ngokungekho mthethweni kulandela i-PAS, apho abantwana

01:45:28.391 --> 01:45:37.638
bathathwa koomama babo, bafakwa kuyise wabo, baze bayisiwe
kwezi zithethe zinkolo nguyise wabo baze bahlukunyezwe apho.

01:45:37.638 --> 01:45:45.147
Ngoko ke uRichard Gardner, umseki, ngoku uswelekile,
kwaye i-False Memory Syndrome Foundation irhoxisiwe.

01:45:45.147 --> 01:45:50.849
Kanti ke, basaqhubeka nokugqiba ezi nkqubo malunga
nolwaphulo-mthetho lokuxhaphaza abantwana ngokwesondo

01:45:50.849 --> 01:45:54.010
kunye nokuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo kude kube namhlanje.

01:45:54.010 --> 01:45:59.175
Kutheni le nto ikwazi ukuqhubeka ngokukhaliphile kangaka?

01:45:59.175 --> 01:46:03.472
I-PAS ifuna ukuthintela ulwaphulo-mthetho
lokuxhaphaza abantwana ukuba lungavezwa.

01:46:03.472 --> 01:46:10.581
I-False Memory Syndrome Foundation ifuna
ukuthintela uthungelwano lobusathana ekubeni luphume elubala.

01:46:10.581 --> 01:46:14.591
Sijongene nembilini yobubi.

01:46:14.591 --> 01:46:21.258
Ukuba la macandelo mabini awela, amanye onke –
kwaye ngamanye ndithetha ezemali, ezamachiza, amajelo

01:46:21.258 --> 01:46:25.225
eendaba, imfundo, njl. – azakuzilungela ngokwawo.

01:46:25.225 --> 01:46:31.678
Yiyo loo nto ke kufuneka simanyane silwe
ulwaphulo-mthetho lokuxhaphaza abantwana ngokwesondo

01:46:31.678 --> 01:46:35.998
kunye nokuthinjwa kwabantwana okungekho mthethweni.

01:46:35.998 --> 01:46:39.756
Le yintloko engasifiyo yeHydra.

01:46:39.756 --> 01:46:43.551
Nje ukuba ayigqibile loo nto, yoyisiwe.

01:46:43.551 --> 01:46:47.845
Ewe! Bheka! Kuhle kakhulu!

01:46:51.649 --> 01:46:55.528
Enkosi ngokuma apho njengedwala elunxwemeni.

01:46:55.528 --> 01:47:01.254
Enkosi kakhulu, Lois. Kwaye masiyifunele i-AZK emnandi.

01:47:01.254 --> 01:47:12.829
Enkosi, enkosi. Ngoku ndingathanda ukunikezela ilizwi
kumfazi oye wema eqinile okwilitye iminyaka engama-30.

01:47:12.829 --> 01:47:17.126
Kwaye lo nguAndrea Christidis. Qalisa ividiyo!

01:47:17.126 --> 01:47:24.296
UGqr. Andrea Christidis ngumthetheleli
wenyaniso nobulungisa – kubantwana nakubazali.

01:47:24.296 --> 01:47:29.104
Ungusazi-ngqondo oyingcaphephe kwezonyango lwengqondo,
kwezemfundo, kwezengqondo nemithambo-luvo,

01:47:29.104 --> 01:47:34.269
kwezobugebenga nakwezobugebenga
bonyanzeliso, kwaye ukwangusonzululwazi wokuziphatha.

01:47:34.269 --> 01:47:39.376
Kwindima yakhe njengengcali ezimeleyo, sele evavanye amatyala
eentsapho angaphezu kwe-1,000 ukuze afumanise ukuba

01:47:39.376 --> 01:47:45.158
ingaba ukushenxiswa kwabantwana ziiofisi zoluntu
ezijongene nentlalontle yolutsha bekusekelwe emthethweni na.

01:47:45.158 --> 01:47:51.943
Ngokwenza oko, watyhila iingxelo zobubele, iisayini ezixhasiweyo,
ukusetyenziswa gwenxa kwedatha, ukuxilongwa okungeyonyani,

01:47:51.943 --> 01:47:59.539
urhwaphilizo lukarhulumente, iirekhodi ezixhasiweyo, ukugxekwa
kwesidima somntu kunye nokuxoxa ngeenyaniso ezingeyonyani.

01:47:59.539 --> 01:48:03.942
Ukwadibene namatyala
obundlobongela bemisebenzi yenkolo kaSathana.

01:48:03.942 --> 01:48:09.826
Ngenxa yokuzinikela kwakhe okukhulu,
wajongana nemiqobo emininzi kwasekuqaleni.

01:48:09.826 --> 01:48:14.678
Umzekelo, kwenziwa iinzame zokumxabisa izihloko zakhe zobungcali.

01:48:14.678 --> 01:48:21.614
Kwavezwa izityholo zolwaphulo-mthetho ezingaphezu
kwama-80 ngokuchasene naye, kodwa zonke zakhutshwa.

01:48:21.614 --> 01:48:28.096
UGqr. Christidis utyhila ukuba kukho inkohlakalo
yeziko eyenzekayo kumakhaya okhathalelo aseJamani, apho

01:48:28.096 --> 01:48:32.039
abantwana baxhatshazwa ngeendlela ezininzi ezahlukeneyo.

01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:39.350
Ukuphikisa oku, waseka umbutho "Axion Resist" ngo-2024.

01:48:39.350 --> 01:48:46.767
Oku kuquka iingcali ezivela kwiinkalo zonyango, isayensi yokwazi
ingqondo, imfundo, umthetho, isifundo solwaphulo-mthetho,

01:48:46.767 --> 01:48:54.879
ibhayoloji kunye ne-IT, kwaye izibophelele ekukhuseleni
abantwana nempilo yabo, kunye nenkululeko nolawulo lomthetho.

01:48:54.879 --> 01:49:01.657
Ukudityaniswa kuya kwenza ukuba ubuchule
bamaphondo ahlukeneyo budityaniswe ngempumelelo.

01:49:01.657 --> 01:49:09.430
UGqr. Andrea Christidis nomyeni wakhe bakwibhodi ye-MWGFD
(Abagqirha neeNzululwazi zezeMpilo, iNkululeko neDemokhrasi),

01:49:09.430 --> 01:49:14.980
umbutho ozinikele ekusebenzeleni impilo nentlalontle yoluntu.

01:49:28.116 --> 01:49:31.197
Molo Andrea! Kumnandi kakhulu ukuba lapha!

01:49:31.197 --> 01:49:37.430
Singathanda ukuva iinyaniso ezimbalwa kuwe malunga nokurhweba
ngabantwana nokuthathwa kwabantwana ukuba bangeniswe kunyango.

01:49:37.430 --> 01:49:41.249
Ungengcali epheleleyo kulo mmandla.

01:49:41.249 --> 01:49:44.392
Singathanda kakhulu ukuva ngamava akho.

01:49:44.392 --> 01:49:50.286
Kukho iintetho ozidlalayo umntu anokuziphulaphula
iiyure ezininzi. Uninzi kakhulu onokulisayilayo.

01:49:50.286 --> 01:49:56.669
Namhlanje unemizuzu engama-20 kuphela, ngoko
ndikunqwenelela ithamsanqa ekuyishwankatheni!

01:49:56.669 --> 01:50:06.571
Enkosi ngokundivumela ukuba ndibe lapha.
Ndiqaphele ukuba sendisazi abanye babathethi kwaye nam

01:50:06.571 --> 01:50:13.339
ndikhe ndaqhuba iisemina okanye udliwano-ndlebe nabo.

01:50:13.339 --> 01:50:25.220
Kwasandichaphazela nzulu. Ndiza kuqalisa ukuthetha
ngendlela urhulumente anokufikelela ngayo kula bantwana baninzi.

01:50:25.220 --> 01:50:28.609
Kwaye ndiza kuqalisa ngamanqaku aliqela ngoku nangoku.

01:50:28.609 --> 01:50:34.492
Ingongoma yokuqala – isingeniso: Ubuso
obuphindwe kabini bokhuseleko lwabantwana.

01:50:34.492 --> 01:50:38.760
IJamani ithathwa njengelizwe elisebenza
ngomgaqo-siseko, indawo ekhuselekileyo yabantwana.

01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:43.109
Kodwa inyaniso izoba umfanekiso owahluke ngokupheleleyo.

01:50:43.109 --> 01:50:50.034
Ekupheleni kuka-2023, abantwana abamalunga
nama-215,000 babekhathalelwa – kumakhaya abantwana,

01:50:50.034 --> 01:50:55.855
kwiintsapho ezibakhulisa okanye kumaziko ononophelo lwabatsha.

01:50:55.855 --> 01:51:04.602
Ngo-2024, malunga nabantwana abayi-190
babesahlulwa kubazali babo yonke imihla.

01:51:04.602 --> 01:51:14.099
Rhoqo ngonyaka, kuqhutywa amatyala amalunga ne-148,600
ngemiba yokugcinwa nokufikelela – abantwana abangangama-86,000

01:51:14.099 --> 01:51:19.906
bayabandakanyeka kwaye bafumaneke kumatyala axakekileyo kakhulu.

01:51:19.906 --> 01:51:26.654
Kwangaxeshanye, iindleko kwityala ngalinye
ziyenyuka: ngo-2016, zazisele zingaphezulu

01:51:26.654 --> 01:51:32.341
kwe-€12,000 – kwaye namhlanje ziphezulu kakhulu.

01:51:32.341 --> 01:51:39.933
Isixa-mali esipheleleyo esichithwa ngonyaka kwinkathalo
yangaphandle kwekhaya sifikelela kwi-8 yeebhiliyoni zee-euro.

01:51:39.933 --> 01:51:43.299
Ukhuseleko lwabantwana kudala lwaba
lishishini elixabisa izigidi ngezigidi zeeponti.

01:51:43.299 --> 01:51:52.494
Kodwa emva kwesi sikhwezelo kufihlakele ubundlobongela
bemibutho, iimfuno zezoqoqosho kunye nokusilela kwesakhiwo.

01:51:52.494 --> 01:52:01.304
Ingongoma yesibini: UGqr. Reiner Fuellmich
unikezele ngolwazi olufikelela kwihlabathi jikelele.

01:52:01.304 --> 01:52:10.724
Lo mgqwetha udume kwihlabathi jikelele, uReiner
Fuellmich, waziwa zizigidi zabantu ngeKomiti yeCorona.

01:52:10.724 --> 01:52:17.247
Injongo yakhe: ukuphakamisa ulwazi malunga
nokungabikho kobulungisa kwezopolitiko nakwezentlalo.

01:52:17.247 --> 01:52:26.230
Uye wanika ingxelo ngorhwebo ngabantwana, ukuxhatshazwa
ngokwesondo kumaziko, kunye norhwaphilizo kumagunya karhulumente.

01:52:26.230 --> 01:52:36.156
Kodwa xa uFuellmich efuna ukuphanda intlekele yezikhukula kwiAhr
Valley kwiKomiti yeCorona – apho kuthiwa kufunyenwe khona

01:52:36.156 --> 01:52:45.107
amathambo entloko ezintsana adutyulwe ngamanzi, njengoko kuxelwe
ngabahlali abaninzi, nto leyo ke engumqondiso

01:52:45.107 --> 01:52:55.360
wokuxhatshazwa ngokwenzakalisayo kwezithethe – kuqala
ungquzulwano lwamandla olwanda kude ngaphaya kweJamani.

01:52:55.360 --> 01:53:06.408
Le ngongoma ikhokelele kwakhona (njengoko sele kukhankanyiwe
izihlandlo ezininzi namhlanje) kwabanye abantu abenze esi sibheno

01:53:06.408 --> 01:53:17.018
befuna ukuphanda – kungekuphela nguGqr Reiner Fuellmich, kodwa
kananjalo, umzekelo, uMax Eder, ongoku eselugcinweni kwaye

01:53:17.018 --> 01:53:27.979
akakabekwanga tyala, nowaseka i-GSG 9 ngelo xesha , ebisebenza
kakhulu kule ndawo, kunye nabanye abanxulumene neqela ekuthiwa

01:53:27.979 --> 01:53:40.920
yiPrinz Reuss Group, ndikholelwa ukuba babengabantu abangama-26
be- – baselugcinweni namhlanje. Ababini kubo sele beswelekile.

01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:48.392
Ngomhla we-5 kuSeptemba 2022, kuza kulandela isikhalazo
solwaphulo-mthetho esingenasiseko esichasene noGqr Fuellmich.

01:53:48.392 --> 01:53:55.397
Uyasilela, kodwa inkundla ke izibeke izityholo zayo.

01:53:55.397 --> 01:54:03.717
Yipateni eqhelekileyo kubatyhili abaninzi – abo babuza
imibuzo engakhululekanga baye baphantsi kophando ngokwabo.

01:54:03.717 --> 01:54:11.998
Kamva, uGqr. Reiner Fuellmich waseka i-ICIC.law
(https://icic.law/), isango lolwazi lamazwe ngamazwe.

01:54:11.998 --> 01:54:20.411
Udliwano-ndlebe lwakhe – umzekelo, noCalin Georgescu ngomhla
wama-22 kuDisemba 2022 kunye noCathy O'Brien ngomhla wama-20

01:54:20.411 --> 01:54:25.970
ku-Agasti 2023 – lufikelele kubabukeli kwihlabathi jikelele.

01:54:25.970 --> 01:54:34.940
Njengoko uMarcel Polte esele ecacisile namhlanje, uCathy O'Brien
wayeyisixhoba sokuxhatshazwa ngokwenkolo.

01:54:34.940 --> 01:54:45.469
Waphinda wachaphazeleka yile nkqubo i-MKultra
njengomntu 'ovavanywayo' – yindlela endingayibeka ngayo.

01:54:45.469 --> 01:54:53.982
Ngoku ndifika kwingongoma yesithathu: Ityala
lokuxhatshazwa eBerlin – Xa inkqubo isilela.

01:54:53.982 --> 01:55:03.496
Embindini weli tyala kukho inkwenkwana eneminyaka emine ubudala
exelela unina ngokuxhatshazwa ngomlomo nangempundu ngutata wayo.

01:55:03.496 --> 01:55:10.273
Ugqirha wezingane noogqirha baseSibhedlele iCharité
baqinisekisa urhano olomeleleyo lokuxhatshazwa

01:55:10.273 --> 01:55:14.712
ngokwesondo okuqhubekayo. Kukho ubungqina bezifoto neengxelo.

01:55:14.712 --> 01:55:21.608
Sendikhe ndanika ingxelo ngale nto kunyaka
ophelileyo ngoDisemba kwisimpoziyam eBavaria.

01:55:21.608 --> 01:55:27.530
Usengayibukela kwi-YouTube phantsi kwegama elithi "Axion Resist".

01:55:27.530 --> 01:55:37.631
Noko ke, ngokutsho kukamama, igqwetha lexhoba laseBerlin
alizange lithumele ezinkundleni iziphumo eziphambili zophando.

01:55:37.631 --> 01:55:41.631
I-LKA ke ivalisa uphando.

01:55:41.631 --> 01:55:52.012
Ingqiqo: "Kufuneka konke oku kuvele
kwingcinga yomntwana okanye kuchatshazelwe ngunina."

01:55:52.012 --> 01:56:03.300
Iirekhodi zesandi zokucatshukiswa zibonisa ukuba bekungekho
mpawu yempembelelo evela kumama. Ndineerekhodi zesandi.

01:56:03.300 --> 01:56:07.512
Inkundla isigqibile isigwebo. Umama
ebengakwazi ukubona umntwana wakhe iminyaka

01:56:07.512 --> 01:56:11.527
emininzi. Lo mfana ngoku uneminyaka eli-14 ubudala.

01:56:11.527 --> 01:56:19.175
Amangqina andazisile – andikwazi ukungqina okanye
ukuphanda ngale nto – ukuba lo mfana ngoku kuthiwa usebenza

01:56:19.175 --> 01:56:25.243
njengomntwana ongumthengisa-ntlobo ezitratweni zaseBerlin.

01:56:25.243 --> 01:56:30.828
Okwesine: Ukwanda kobubi kunye namalungelo omenzi.

01:56:30.828 --> 01:56:35.637
Lonkwenkwe luyaphuhlisa iingxaki ezinzima
zokuziphatha: ukuziphatha okunentsingiselo yezesondo,

01:56:35.637 --> 01:56:39.577
ukungakwazi ukuzibamba, kunye neengcinga zokuzibulala.

01:56:39.577 --> 01:56:45.185
Ukhuthaza abantu abadala ukuba babandakanyeke
kwizenzo zesondo kwaye uphinda-phinda adlale

01:56:45.185 --> 01:56:50.270
iziganeko zokuxhatshazwa enzulwini nakwiskola.

01:56:50.270 --> 01:56:54.847
Bekukho iingcebiso zonyango ezivela
kwiingcali zonyango. Ezi zingahoywanga.

01:56:54.847 --> 01:57:02.752
Utata wayala, kodwa wamnikezelwa
ilungelo lokumgcina yedwa ngo-2015.

01:57:02.752 --> 01:57:07.854
Umama, njengoko senditshilo,
uphulukana nayo yonke inxibelelwano nomntwana.

01:57:07.854 --> 01:57:10.613
Akavumelekanga ukuba abone umntwana wakhe unyaka wonke.

01:57:10.613 --> 01:57:16.312
Emva koko ngamathub' athile yaye ikhatshwa,
kwaye ngoku iminyaka ingakhange iqhagamshelane naye.

01:57:16.312 --> 01:57:24.513
Iingxelo ezininzi zamaqela
ziqinisekisile ukuxhatshazwa. Zonke azange zihoywe.

01:57:24.513 --> 01:57:31.145
Ngo-2017 nango-2018, xa umntwana wayesele ehlala notata wakhe
ixesha elithile, i-Ofisi yoLondolozo lweNtsha

01:57:31.145 --> 01:57:37.886
yaseNeukölln yabhala phantsi ukuziphatha
okugqithisileyo okunobulili okwawubonwa kumntwana.

01:57:37.886 --> 01:57:42.558
Umfana uthe izihlandlo eziliqela, "Ndifuna ukufa."

01:57:42.558 --> 01:57:50.581
Ndiye ndazihlola zonke iifayile endazinikwa
yinkundla yezosapho, njl. Akukho bungqina bokuba

01:57:50.581 --> 01:57:56.437
umama ubeka impilo-ntle yomntwana esichengeni.

01:57:56.437 --> 01:58:01.616
Lesihlanu: Ukuxakana kunye
nokukhuselwa kwenkqubo kwabenzi bobubi.

01:58:01.616 --> 01:58:10.980
Umama ufumanisa ukuba iZiko leSizwe laBantwana abalahlekileyo
nabaThunjwayo (i-NCMEC) – elal sele lichazwe ngu-Uwe Kranz –

01:58:10.980 --> 01:58:19.346
lifake ingxelo yeponografi yabantwana enxulumene neli
tyala. Yafakwa kwi-Ofisi yeZokuphenya ulwaphulo-mthetho

01:58:19.346 --> 01:58:25.527
kaRhulumente (i-LKA), kodwa akuzange kwenziwe uphando.

01:58:25.527 --> 01:58:33.279
Ngokutsho kukamama, uCarsten Stahl, ozazisa
esidlangalaleni njengomkhuseli wabantwana, ebemazi

01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:38.393
umrhanelwa – utata – buqu ukusukela ebutsheni bakhe.

01:58:38.393 --> 01:58:44.634
Ubekade emtyelela nakwindlu ababehlala kuyo bobabini
– ngelo xesha umama wakhe wayesahlala notata wakhe.

01:58:44.634 --> 01:58:52.815
Kodwa uCarsten Stahl umangalela unina ngenxa
yokuba uthe uCarsten Stahl uyamazi lo tata.

01:58:52.815 --> 01:59:03.500
Umama uphumelele enkundleni kwaye umgwebi ubuza,
"Yintoni kanye kanye uStahl azama ukuyiphumeza ngale nto?"

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Kutheni umama engavumelekanga ukuthi uyamazi utata?

01:59:08.802 --> 01:59:16.758
Lesithandathu: Ityala likaGqr
Dorothea Thul – Ukugrogrisa ugqirha.

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Ugqirha wezingane uGqr. Dorothea Thul ulungiselela
ingxelo yezonyango egameni likamama, eqinisekisa

01:59:22.760 --> 01:59:27.566
ukuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo okungapheliyo kwalo mfana.

01:59:27.566 --> 01:59:35.494
Kungekudala emva koko, uhlaselwa ngaphandle kwendlu yakhe.
Utyhonyozwa, alaliswe kwigumbi labagula ngengqondo aze avalelwe

01:59:35.494 --> 01:59:44.721
– xa babengakwazi ukumsa kwisibhedlele sabagula ngengqondo –
ngenxa yoku "ziphatha ngendlela ehlazisayo" ekutyholwa ngako.

01:59:44.721 --> 01:59:51.366
Esesixhenxe: Imeko yentlalo – Xa
ukhuseleko lwabantwana lwaba lishishini.

01:59:51.366 --> 01:59:57.552
Emva kwezi ziphelo zomntu ngamnye kukho inkqubo
enenkuthazo ezikhokelela kwicala elingalunganga.

01:59:57.552 --> 02:00:02.693
Iinkonzo zoluntu zokhathalelo lwabantwana
nolutsha zibiza izigidi ngezigidi rhoqo ngonyaka.

02:00:02.693 --> 02:00:09.293
Ngokomlinganiselo, kuchithwa ngaphezulu kwe-€12,000
ngenyanga kumntwana ngamnye okhathalelwayo. Abanye

02:00:09.293 --> 02:00:14.102
ababoneleli bafumana imali ephindwe kalishumi kunaleyo.

02:00:14.102 --> 02:00:20.967
Ngoku oosopolitiki – nam ndandiyisopolitiki
yasekuhlaleni, ngoko ndingakuthetha oku – bayibone

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intlupheko njengoyaba kwimpilontle yabantwana.

02:00:24.704 --> 02:00:31.187
Ukuba ubuhlwempu buthathwa njengengozi kwimpilontle yomntwana,
umntu uyazibuza: kutheni abazali bengamfumani umntwana?

02:00:31.187 --> 02:00:36.648
Kutheni amakhaya abantwana okanye
abazali abakhulisayo befumana le mali?

02:00:36.648 --> 02:00:44.323
Konke oku kudityaniswa nokunyuka kobuhlwempu kubantwana – obuthi,
ngokutsho kweBundestag, "bube neziphumo ezibanzi kuyo yonke

02:00:44.323 --> 02:00:51.630
inkqubo yemfundo" – iinkundla zezindlu-ntsapho ezixakekileyo,
ukungabikho kokugcinwa kobungqina kumatyala okuxhatshazwa

02:00:51.630 --> 02:00:59.960
ngokwesondo, kunye nokukhuselwa kwabenzi bobubi ngamaziko okwenza
oomama babe ziinqolobi xa beqagela okanye bexela ukuxhatshazwa.

02:00:59.960 --> 02:01:12.084
Ndingakutsho oku kuba ndiye ndahlola amatyala omthetho
wosapho angaphezu kwewaka, ndaza ndahlola ndaphikisa izimvo

02:01:12.084 --> 02:01:19.605
zeengcali ezilingana nalo elo nani kule minyaka idlulileyo.

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Kufuneka nditsho kwasekuqaleni ukuba kunzima kakhulu
ukungqina ukuxhatshazwa ngokwesondo ukuba akukho

02:01:27.390 --> 02:01:32.641
mizila yemfuza okanye ukwenzakala okukhulu okufunyenweyo.

02:01:32.641 --> 02:01:38.883
Xa abantwana besenza izityholo ezinje,
unina udla ngokutyholwa ngokulawula umntwana.

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Emva koko kuthiwa umama ubeka impilo-ntle yomntwana
esichengeni, aze umntwana athunyelwe kowenziwa

02:01:44.874 --> 02:01:50.225
isityholo – phantse kuzo zonke iimeko, ndingakuqinisekisa oko.

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Kwaye ke kukho ukukhuselwa kwabenzi bobubi ngamaziko, nto leyo
eyenza ukuba oomama babekwe ityala – seso esinye isizathu –

02:01:57.861 --> 02:02:03.601
amaxesha amaninzi oomama bajongana neenkqubo zolwaphulo-mthetho
okanye bathunyelwe kunyango lwezifo zengqondo. Maxa

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wambi bafumana iingxelo zokuxilongwa ezingachanekanga kwaphela.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba nabani na oxela inkohlakalo
usemngciphekweni wokuphulukana nomntwana wakhe. Ngaloo ndlela,

02:02:13.060 --> 02:02:18.531
ukukhusela abenzi bobubi kuba yinto eluncedo kwizwe lonke.

02:02:18.531 --> 02:02:28.094
Esibhozo: Ukufana kwembali – icala elimnyama
lokhathalelo lwabahlali. Ezi ziganeko azikho zodwa.

02:02:28.094 --> 02:02:36.772
Ukususela kumalinge aseKentler ukuya eHaasenburg,
kwiiLali zaBantwana ze-SOS nakuLena omncinci waseWunsiedel:

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Kaninzi, ubundlobongela obunobulili, ukungcungcuthekiswa okanye
ukufa kwenzeke kumaziko abephethwe ngurhulumente okanye ecaweni.

02:02:45.130 --> 02:02:52.089
Le nkcazelo ifumaneka esidlangalaleni. Ungayifumana
kwakhona kwiphepha lethu lasekhaya phantsi kwe "Axion Resist" .

02:02:52.089 --> 02:02:58.620
Sikwabambe iisemina ezininzi ngalo mbandela
kwaye sichaze amatyala nemithombo emininzi.

02:02:58.620 --> 02:03:03.254
Amaxhoba amaninzi akazange avakale. Kwaye abo
bathetha nxamnye nokungabikho kobulungisa –

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ndiyayazi kakuhle loo nto – bahlala bejoliswa ngokwabo.

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Kwaye okwesithoba, kwaye kwakhona ukuphela: ixabiso lenyaniso.

02:03:14.179 --> 02:03:19.914
UGqr. Reiner Fuellmich umele abo
bathetha iinyaniso ezingakhululekanga.

02:03:19.914 --> 02:03:24.699
Wayefuna ukutyhila urhwaphilizo, ukuxhatshazwa
kunye nokusetyenziswa gadalala kwamagunya.

02:03:24.699 --> 02:03:28.576
Ngenxa yoko, wabekwa ityala lolwaphulo-mthetho.

02:03:28.576 --> 02:03:35.677
UGqr Dorothea Thul wafumanisa into ekungekho mntu
ufuna ukuyiva waza walahlekelwa yinkululeko yakhe.

02:03:35.677 --> 02:03:43.121
Oku kusebenza nakuMax Eder nabanye abavela kwiqela likaPrinz
Reuss, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo nakwabanye abaninzi kananjalo.

02:03:43.121 --> 02:03:52.282
Yiyo loo nto ndingathanda ukongeza ukuba siza kubeka uluhlu
lwee-akhawunti zeminikelo kwiwebhusayithi yethu i-Axion

02:03:52.282 --> 02:04:01.751
Resist, zabantu abavalelweyo abakwimeko kaxakeka yokufuna
inkxaso – imali yokuzithethelela kwabo ngokwasemthethweni.

02:04:01.751 --> 02:04:05.126
Siza kupapasha oku kwiphepha lethu lasekhaya.

02:04:05.126 --> 02:04:09.024
Oomama ababefuna ukukhusela abantwana
babo babexhatshazwa amalungelo abo.

02:04:09.024 --> 02:04:15.561
Kwaye abantwana ababedinga uncedo bashiyelwa
kwinkqubo eyayijongene nokubatshabalalisa.

02:04:15.561 --> 02:04:27.489
Ndikhumbula intetho yenzululwazi nowayesakuba
nguTshansela u-Olaf Scholz, othe ngonyaka ka-2002: "Sele

02:04:27.489 --> 02:04:33.838
sinolawulo lomoya ngaphezulu kweebhedi zabantwana."

02:04:33.838 --> 02:04:37.288
Oku kuthetha ukuba urhulumente uthathe
abantwana abengaphantsi kwenkathalo yakhe.

02:04:37.288 --> 02:04:44.828
Bafakwa ingqondo – kwanasezindulini
nakwizikolo – ngemfundo yezesondo engafanelekanga.

02:04:44.828 --> 02:04:50.811
Kwakukho le "Original Play" apho abazali babengazi ukuba
amadoda angaziwayo ayengena ngokungekho mthethweni kwiindawo

02:04:50.811 --> 02:04:54.009
zokugcina iintsana kwaye abahlukumeza ngokwesondo abantwana.

02:04:54.009 --> 02:04:59.529
Kuye kwabakho namatyala okuxhatshazwa, njalo njalo. Ngoko ke
izinto ezinje ziyenzeka kwaye abazali

02:04:59.529 --> 02:05:06.060
abanamandla. Ukuba bayakhalaza, kufuneka
balindele ukuba abantwana babo baya kuthathwa kubo.

02:05:06.060 --> 02:05:14.224
Kwaye umxholo ongundoqo wako konke kukuba: ukhuseleko
lwabantwana akufuneki lube sisigqubuthelo sokufihla.

02:05:14.224 --> 02:05:19.190
Aba batyhila okubi bayakhusela abantwana – hayi iinkqubo.

02:05:19.190 --> 02:05:23.487
Kwaye ukubonelela ngeendawo zokuhlala
zabantwana phantse kuyafana nokuba nelayisensi

02:05:23.487 --> 02:05:27.800
yokuprinta imali. Kufuneka nditsho nje loo nto apha.

02:05:27.800 --> 02:05:33.295
Kwaye ukukhanyiselwa kuqala apho ukuthula kwanyanzeliswayo.

02:05:33.295 --> 02:05:47.918
Enkosi. Enkosi.

02:05:47.918 --> 02:05:53.701
Oku kwenziwe ngobuchule obukhulu apha ngexesha
elifutshane kangaka, ngokufutshane nangokucwangcisekileyo!

02:05:53.701 --> 02:06:01.396
Ndingathanda ukubulela kakhulu kakhulu ngenxa yokuzinikela
kwakho kubantwana nangokubamela ngobukroti obukhulu.

02:06:01.396 --> 02:06:04.573
Le nkosikazi ilungileyo isoloko
ibandakanyeka kwiinkqubo zomthetho.

02:06:04.573 --> 02:06:09.906
Xa sasithetha emnxebeni, wayesoloko kufuneka aye enkundleni aye
kwezinye iindibano zokuviwa kwetyala, "Yima kancinci, kusafuneka

02:06:09.906 --> 02:06:13.198
ndithi..." Wayelungisa yonke into ebusuku
kuba wayesaphathisana nenkundla kwaye

02:06:13.198 --> 02:06:16.041
kusafuneka enjenjalo... Ngamafutshane: ungqhelekazi!

02:06:16.041 --> 02:06:23.581
Ewe! Kwaye enkosi kakhulu ngokudibanisa la manqaku nawe.

02:06:23.581 --> 02:06:28.078
Ndikunqwenelela impumelelo yonke kwaye
ndiyakubulela ukusuka entliziyweni yam ngale galelo.

02:06:28.078 --> 02:06:35.616
Enkosi. Enkosi kakhulu.

02:06:40.256 --> 02:06:44.747
Ewe, babukeli abathandekayo, ngoku
siye seva uluhlu olubanzi lwamatyala.

02:06:44.747 --> 02:06:51.608
Sifumene ukuqonda malunga nokuba le ngcinga
yobusathana ithetha ntoni, ithetha ntoni

02:06:51.608 --> 02:06:55.848
kwiinkana, nokuba undoqo wobuSathana yintoni.

02:06:55.848 --> 02:07:01.417
Enyanisweni ijoliswe kumalungu ethu
abuthathaka, abantwana bethu. Kuphantse kunganyamezeleki.

02:07:01.417 --> 02:07:07.401
Kwelinye icala, ungazintywilisela
ekutyhafeni uze ucinge: Ewe, ungenzi ntoni apha?

02:07:07.401 --> 02:07:14.882
Okanye singatsho kwakhona: Ewe, konke oku ngoku
kuphumele elubala kuba simanyene ngomoya, ukuze kungabi sekho

02:07:14.882 --> 02:07:18.688
okuzakuhlala kufihlakele. Kwaye oko luloyiso olukhulu.

02:07:18.688 --> 02:07:25.002
Ekuqaleni kwale AZK, utata wam wathi rhoqo kusasa
ngentsimbi yesi-6, ngemibhengezo esebenzisanayo, noko

02:07:25.002 --> 02:07:28.859
ke siza kuzoyisa la maqela "abonakala engenakoyiswa".

02:07:28.859 --> 02:07:37.436
Ngale mithandazo yobuchule yokholo, – manditsho nje –
siqalise yonke into ukuze ezi zenzo zobugwenxa zivele elubala,

02:07:37.436 --> 02:07:42.887
kwaye le ngubo ibigqume kakhulu phezu kwazo ivalwe ngumoya.

02:07:42.887 --> 02:07:49.858
Kwaye nokuba abasindileyo abaninzi ngakumbi bayasuka bathethe,
amangqina ayeza phambili, nabatyhili bayeza obala ngakumbi, kwaye

02:07:49.858 --> 02:07:57.455
iingcali ziyatyhila into eyenzekayo apha. Kwaye nokuba nabo
bayamelana nazo zonke iintlobo zokuxhatshazwa ukuze bayityhile!

02:07:57.455 --> 02:08:06.449
Kuba kuphela ngokukhanya apho la maqhinga obubi anokohlwaywa, xa
sele ebonakala kwihlabathi jikelele, xa engasakwazi

02:08:06.449 --> 02:08:16.308
ukuzifihla. Kwaye siza kuqhubeka nokusukela oku, ngoko ke
ndifuna ukunikhuthaza ukuba nifunde ezi zibhengezo rhoqo kusasa.

02:08:16.308 --> 02:08:20.990
Ndinimema nonke ukuba nenze njalo,
njengoko utata wenze ngaphambili namhlanje.

02:08:20.990 --> 02:08:28.287
Kwaye ndiphinda ndithi: sisiphumo sezibhengezo zethu
ezisebenzisanayo ukuba abasindileyo abaninzi ngakumbi bafumana

02:08:28.287 --> 02:08:35.584
isibindi – nangona besongelwa ngokufa – sokuxelela
sonke ngezigebenga ezisilawulayo apha, indlela abasithethelelana

02:08:35.584 --> 02:08:38.915
ngayo kwaye bephethe imicimbi yehlabathi ngasemva.

02:08:38.915 --> 02:08:43.233
Yiyo loo nto ke simanyana kubo bonke ubuthathaka bethu, apha
nangoku, kwaye siphume nale myalezo siyise

02:08:43.233 --> 02:08:48.413
ehlabathini. Ndingathanda kwakhona ukutsho kuni nonke, nina
izithethi ezisixhenxe, ukuba nenze umsebenzi omhle kakhulu.

02:08:48.413 --> 02:08:55.307
Kodwa siyayisasaza le myalezo kuba isigqubuthelo siwile
kwaye ngoku singabona ukuba ngubani ongemva kwayo

02:08:55.307 --> 02:08:59.822
yonke le nto nokuba ngubani kanye kanye osisoyikisayo apha.

02:08:59.822 --> 02:09:05.239
Kwaye simi apho kubo bonke ubuthathaka
bethu sisithi: Kwanele ke! Kwanele ke!!!

02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:10.251
Ngoku ndingathanda ukumema umntakwethu u-Elias kunye
nenkosikazi yakhe u-Stefanie ukuba baphakame beze eqongeni.

02:09:10.251 --> 02:09:18.155
Emva kwekhefu, u-Elias uza kuthatha isiqendu esilandelayo, apho
siza kujonga kwezinye iinkalo kwaye siqonde

02:09:18.155 --> 02:09:26.642
ngakumbi amandla esinawo xa sizisa zonke ezi zinto
ingqaleni yoluntu ngeVetopedia – xa zikhanyiselwa.

02:09:26.642 --> 02:09:31.781
Kodwa ngoku ndiyamnika ithuba uStefanie. Ubhale
ingoma kwaye uza kuthetha amagama ambalwa ngayo kancinci.

02:09:31.781 --> 02:09:36.480
Ndikwanikwe ithuba lokudlala iphanfile apha
okomzuzwana, nto leyo elungile kum, kuba

02:09:36.480 --> 02:09:40.234
indinceda ukuba ndiphumle kuyo yonke into. Kulungile.

02:09:40.234 --> 02:09:44.536
NdingoStefanie Sasek, umfazi ka-Elias Sasek.

02:09:44.536 --> 02:09:51.005
Sikunye sinabantwana abane abancinci nabathandekayo kakhulu.

02:09:51.005 --> 02:09:57.704
Ndingathanda ukukuxelela ngokufutshane indlela ingoma yam
eyenzeka ngayo: Lois, ndibukele iidocumentary zakho

02:09:57.704 --> 02:10:02.183
kwi-Kla.TV, iidocumentary zakho ezintathu ezithi "Blood Sects".

02:10:02.183 --> 02:10:08.510
Bandichukumisa kakhulu. Bekubi ngokwenene.

02:10:08.510 --> 02:10:14.871
Kwiintsuku ezimbalwa emva kokuzalwa komntwana wethu
wesine, ndandiphendaphendeka ebhedini kwaye

02:10:14.871 --> 02:10:19.712
andikwazanga ukuzikhupha ezi mifanekiso engqondweni yam.

02:10:19.712 --> 02:10:30.327
Ndachaphazeleka kakhulu koko kwenzekileyo, kwaye kuyinto
engenakucingelwa ngumama, kuyinto embi ngokungenakucingelwa.

02:10:30.327 --> 02:10:42.895
Kwaye ke ndabona umkhanyo wethemba kweli xesha linzima, xa
ndaqonda: kwimeko yethu yangoku yobuthathaka, kufuneka simi

02:10:42.895 --> 02:10:55.114
ngokuqinileyo kwaye silinde nje ukuba kwenzeke into, ukuba
kukhululwe iindlela ezintsha eziya kuthi ziqalise into ethile.

02:10:55.114 --> 02:11:01.382
Kwaye ke, njengoko benditshilo, ndiye
ndafumana ingcamango, kwaye andifuni kuthetha

02:11:01.382 --> 02:11:07.509
ngaphezu koko, kuba konke ndikufake engomeni yam.

02:11:07.509 --> 02:11:14.485
Kuyamangalisa ngokwenene nokuba wena, Lois, ufumene ixesha
lokuhambisa ingoma ngefluti yakho yepani. Kwaye kumnandi

02:11:14.485 --> 02:11:22.729
kakhulu nokuba ababini babafowethu ngomtshana kunye nodadewethu
ngomtshana baseqongeni nam. Lo ngumsebenzi esisebenzisene ngawo.

02:11:22.729 --> 02:11:29.740
Sibhale kunye umculo, amazwi, nayo yonke enye into,
kwaye ndiyavuya kuba ngoku singakwazi ukuyicula le ngoma.

02:11:29.740 --> 02:11:38.504
Ndiyathemba oku kuzakunika ithemba kulo mcimbi unzima. Enkosi!

02:11:58.335 --> 02:12:06.067
Ulele ezingalweni zam, uzele lukholo

02:12:06.067 --> 02:12:14.474
Isenencinci kakhulu ukumelana nemithwalo yeli hlabathi

02:12:14.474 --> 02:12:21.962
Iingcango zivaliwe, ubumnyama mayilinde

02:12:21.962 --> 02:12:30.702
Kodwa sendiyazi ukuba akusayi kuhlala kunjalo.

02:12:30.702 --> 02:12:38.582
Kanti ke ndisakuphatha ezingalweni zam

02:12:38.582 --> 02:12:46.563
Kodwa ngaphandle, ihlabathi lonke liyakulinda

02:12:46.563 --> 02:12:54.180
Ngubani oza kukukhusela kule mihla yobunzima?

02:12:54.180 --> 02:13:02.698
Xa uziva ungenamandla nokungabikho kobulungisa

02:13:05.002 --> 02:13:23.274
Kodwa mamela, mntwanam Hayi emandleni, kodwa
kubuthathaka Uza kufumana isitshixo sale xesha

02:13:23.274 --> 02:13:38.880
Asingabo abomeleleyo abayitshintshayo le dunia
Kodwa abo baphumlela kubuthathaka ezingalweni zoMdali

02:13:49.409 --> 02:14:05.482
Nangona kudala ndizimele ndiziva njengawe,
ndingenakuzinceda kwaye ndincinci kakhulu

02:14:05.482 --> 02:14:21.444
Ndiyabona intlungu yexesha lethu kwaye
ndimi Kuphela ngokuthemba phakathi kwesiphango

02:14:21.444 --> 02:14:38.009
Kuba ayikho emandleni, kodwa kubuthathaka
Apho isitshixo sale xesha sikulungele khona

02:14:38.009 --> 02:14:53.942
Asingabo abomeleleyo abayitshintshayo le mehluko
Kodwa abo bemi kubuthathaka esweni yesaqhwithi

02:15:09.867 --> 02:15:26.123
Kwaye bonke abomeleleyo abanakushukumisa nto,
Xa siphumle ngokuthemba ezingalweni zoMdali

02:15:26.123 --> 02:15:33.544
Xa siphumla ngokuthemba ezingalweni zoMdali