Many people just copy and paste from the dpa, one to one.
Then you look in the newspaper, the same articles are everywhere by now.
officially mentioned in the interview that we live in an age of mass media stupefaction and Gustave Le Bon wrote
the "Psychology of the Masses" well over 130 years ago.
It tells you everything you need to know about how to manipulate the masses.
you live as a slave, so to speak, but you don't realize that you actually only have a fence around you.
Other people put the fence there for you and explain to you that every four years you have
the opportunity to choose the color of the fence.
My favorite saying is actually this: If you watch less television, you see through more.
They believe in it. Like some kind of ideology. The communist ideology, that's the right thing, they ignore everything else.
There are a lot of them in the media, a lot of them.
You'll get goose bumps when you see how people see it there.
And we should all really stand together in this difficult hour.
[Kla.TV: Yes, dear viewers, Heiko Schrang, who doesn't know him?
He is a bestselling author, a book publisher, a speaker at the 15th AZK, has a YouTube channel with no less than
170,000 followers and, as a peace-loving person, is one of the best-known minds on the enlightenment scene.
Welcome to Kla.TV, dear Heiko, nice to have you here.
Dear Heiko, you have written a book and your new book is called "The Millennium Lie."
You tackle sensitive topics and shed light on them with impressive depth.
However, it is still very easy to read and the reader is taken along very well.
The book was written after Corona. Did this time motivate you to write the book? Or was there another reason?
[Heiko Schrang: Not really, it's not all that new.
The book was published on the market just under a year ago, long after Corona.
Corona is 2020/2021 - do we have a connection to that?
But you're still right to ask.
In the end, there was really only one reason:
I took out my old books, in this case "The Lie of the Century".
I wanted to look at old sources and was horrified to discover that most of the sources no longer existed online.
I found that very un-relaxing, because that's madness.
In other words, there is now a massive uniformization there, i.e. via Google, and now it continues with ChatGPT.
I thought that if they cut everything else, there would only be one truth left: that of the
Ministry of Truth, similar to Orwell's "1984".
And then I thought, it can't be like that.
So I thought, okay, you're going to write another book for posterity in the end.
Because I think they're going more and more in this direction, via AI, that you only have a predetermined opinion
that - what the powerful like - has a predetermined narrative.
And I also have children and I have a responsibility, from my point of view, not only to the children, grandchildren
and also to other people, so you say: Okay, here's a reference book - you've read it - a kind of encyclopaedia.
We will go into more detail on some topics.
So you'll find everything you need to know about how all wars came about: Who is behind it, the horse and rider are
named, the Kennedy assassination, corona - what happened there?
I mean, it's already outdated, my book (...).
I wrote things in before, but they've all come out now.
In the meantime, one bomb after the other is bursting.
And that's actually how it came about that I said, okay, this is a companion from all the themes.
So I don't think I need to write anything more, because it's all been written now.
And if you haven't understood it by now - don't misunderstand - you can't help them any more.
You actually took up many, many different topics and you went into great depth.
In this conversation, I would like to focus a little bit on the topic of media.
You also referred to the media in an article, but also repeatedly throughout the book.
Many people assume that the mass media provide a wide variety of opinions and that everyone can form their own opinion somewhere.
In your book, however, you paint a somewhat different picture of the media.
So what's the problem in your eyes with the mass media?
From my point of view, this is not a new problem, it has always been there.
If you look into it a bit historically, you'll find that Edward Bernays - I can only recommend Eddie Bernays to
viewers - he wrote the book "Propaganda" over 100 years ago.
The man is actually the one who founded the public relations agencies, (...) he gave
mechanisms to the powerful on how to manipulate people.
And let me say, whether it was Adolf Hitler or others, the things are still being used to
this day. In other words, it's nothing new.
Of course you have the feeling, you think now, okay, in the GDR you had two stations, DDR1, DDR2. And my generation
also remembers the time when there were only a few stations.
In 1987 came Sat.1, RTL etc., private television.
Previously, there was only a limited number of television channels.
And at some point there were hundreds of channels.
People said: "Hey, now we can get really comprehensive and independent information."
And I have often questioned this, even well over 20 years ago, because I noticed that the same images were used everywhere when
it came to crucial news - in other words, when it came to essential matters, whether the second
Gulf War in 2003 or even the first Gulf War in 1991.
Anyway, you watch CNN, you see the same pictures on the news, you see the same pictures on other channels.
Only the TV announcer looked different, but the message was the same everywhere.
And I asked myself the question back then: How can that actually be?
Because when everything is so independent and everyone sells you: "We have our own reporters and they go there and there" (...).
But when it came to the crucial things, there was really only one decisive opinion.
And from my point of view, it is now worse than ever.
You were referring to that: It doesn't matter whether there are thousands of channels or not.
There are only four news agencies, as you mentioned, the AP, Associated Press, then AFP, Reuters, quite well known.
Reuters is almost 150 years old, you have to imagine, and then there's dpa, the German Press Agency.
For the interested viewers - you have to pay attention - you often see in Germany: dpa - in small print - dpa, dpa, dpa message.
In other words, they give out what is to be delivered.
Many people just copy the dpa, one to one.
Then you see in the newspaper, it's the same articles everywhere by now.
Yes, so for the viewer again, you've just spoken about the great diversity of media and you're now saying that these diverse media
- as it seems at first, because there are so many different formats - but then actually only copy or
largely copy from these four agencies in principle, yes?
[Heiko Schrang: Yes, that's cleverly done. Let me put it this way, as I said, quite normal, I don't want to
deny that there can be a few regional changes in normal 0815 reports, that's quite possible.
But in the end you have to imagine it like this, a large gymnasium and in the gymnasium it's relatively dark, and in one
corner there are all the spotlights, shining in this corner, and in this corner is, for example, the war in Ukraine or Gaza.
Everyone only looks at this corner, everyone only reports from this one corner, but from the same gymnasium, in other countries,
Yemen for example and elsewhere, there are also wars, there are also mass murders, but they
are not reported on, as if they don't even exist.
Current, just current, I'm not even talking about historical things.
If we assume that the Ukraine war started in 2014, that is well known.
And if you think about it, one of the greatest journalists, whom I also quote in my book and hold in high esteem, Peter
Scholl-Latour, who unfortunately passed away, officially mentioned in an interview in 2014 - you can google it -
that we are living in an age of mass media stupefaction; this was particularly evident during the war in Ukraine.
That was the case back then, when false images were shown, for example, nTV ran a big headline saying that
the tank convoys were marching or crossing over into Ukraine, but it was a picture from 2008.
It was taken in the Caucasus, it was a military exercise by the Russians, so it was simply falsely reported.
But in people's minds, of course, they thought, oh, the Russians are marching in there with tanks, but they never did!
That's just one example. And it goes on like this all the time.
It was also legendary back then, when they said in Berlin, oh, now we have to form a human chain for the poor refugees -
they came over via Syria in 2015 - and it was also legendary.
Then they showed that they were all standing around Berlin holding hands with candles for the poor refugees.
Then they found out that there weren't 50,000 people, as was reported, but only 5,000,
but that's not enough for the human chain.
So they took pictures from 2003, the second Ukraine war, when there were mass demonstrations and hundreds of thousands
took to the streets - they simply edited them together.
Then you find out, then they say, oh, unfortunately we've accidentally removed the wrong picture from the dpa archive.
They're doing the same thing with Trump right now, the thing with the BBC, which is why he's
suing. And it goes on like this all the time.
The decisive factor is that there are only a few agencies, which viewers should remember or like to research.
And that's cleverly done, because very few people know that, but they all hold the same opinion.
That you find them again, of course, is another story, with the Bilderbergers and with all the semi-secret
organizations where they sit down and talk about their agenda.
It's a "conspiracy theory" of course, Mathias, you know.
Absolutely, no question about it. We'll put a few quotation marks around it, yes, exactly.
In your book you also write that you include a quote from Jörg Haider:
Whoever defines the terms controls the thinking - important things are politically tabooed and untruth is elevated to dogma.
Yes, how does this psychological warfare, as you call it, work in practice or do you have any concrete examples
in current world events of what is going on right now?
Yes, if I'm honest, I can say a few things, but I have to say that I'm not really interested in what the
viewers like to hear anymore, but that's the way it is when you've been in it for so long.
We always talk about recognizing, but why change?
You always stay in the realm of recognition, always recognizing, because at some point you go mad,
because the next message, the next, the next, the next...
Because the lie, you have to imagine, is so big, for me rather frightening, that people follow these lies.
So as an example, if you hear in the media now, according to the Ministry of Defense, this and that has happened.
You always know they're behind it or intelligence reports have said this and that.
So, maybe we can figure it out, they work relatively closely together and all the terminology ...
That's why it's boring now, whether it's just a term, "angry citizen", didn't even exist before, "Reichsbürger",
artificially created term to defame people, "right-wing esoteric", which I am, never existed before either.
You need to get out a dictionary, very interesting.
I once gave a lecture on this, I think, at the AZK, on terminology, back then, a
while ago, the terms weren't even in there.
"Insurgents", aha, insurgents - insurgents are some kind of Indians. They're being clever, they're saying
"to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe" - that sounds good - the "peacekeepers" have to ...
These are all words that are created in order to be put across in the synchronized media,
which are more or less owned by the few agencies.
In the end, the dormant sheep is properly broken down with the terms, i.e. the "peacekeeping troops" have to go to country
X or Y, have to go there to fight for democracy and freedom.
Incidentally, the word "collateral damage" was created during the Kosovo War in 1999, for example, and didn't even exist before.
So at the time of the Vietnam War there was no collateral damage, you saw pictures of napalm bombs being thrown,
those are legendarily sad pictures: little children with their skin burning like gel on their own bodies.
So they said to themselves, okay, we've learned from this, we can't take pictures like that anymore, now we have to play a kind
of video game ... a drone flies and then something comes up, and then we tell them, well, there was also "collateral damage".
In other words, civilians, women, children and so on are killed.
And that's how it goes all the time, the complete distortion, the "right-wing extremist" party and the,
he's in contact with that, so it's just defamation.
Because every word, very spiritual, every word has a vibration.
If I say now, dear Mathias, you're a really great man, or I love you, or I say I hate you, Mathias.
Oh, words can practically kill. Every word has a vibration pattern, they know that very well.
And that's why I refuse to take on these things.
That's why you won't see a single video of me mentioning the word "swearer" once.
For me, that's the biggest dumbing down of all, because the word didn't exist before.
You have to imagine how many people parrot, they are like, you have to imagine, like a monkey, they copy everything.
I'm not saying that all people are like that, not with you, the free thinkers are there of course.
But unfortunately the masses are like that, they take over, and Gustave Le Bon wrote the
"Psychology of the Masses" well over 130 years ago.
It says everything you need to know about how to manipulate the masses. But somehow it always works.
Yes, of course you're on a completely different level because you've also done a lot of research.
I can well imagine that you are really fed up with some of the terms.
But I think it's important, also for the viewer, to understand how something like this works when we have four
agencies that simply deliberately scatter certain words.
They also defame like: Conspiracy theorists, right-wing extremists, esoterics, like you just said,
sectarians or anything else. There are so many negative terms.
[Let's take Björn Höcke as an example. I'm not interested in the AfD, I have to say right away.
But then they would say: Björn Höcke, who has a criminal record and can be called a fascist, did this and that today.
But you will never hear it said that a speech is about to be given by the woman who is partly responsible for
several wars, who has committed perjury, who has done this, this, this ... Now comes Angela Merkel.
So you will never hear, with any other politician, whether Green, Left, that you get a resolution that you say, as an
example, Lars Klingbeil, the former Antifa man, Lars Klingbeil, now Foreign Minister, or what is he, Economics Minister?
He is speaking to you now. You will not hear that.
You won't hear that either: Ex-BlackRock, former board member of the Atlantikbrücke, who broke a word two days after being
sworn in as Chancellor, is now speaking to you, Friedrich Merz.
It doesn't happen. But everyone else, whether it's me - if you type in my name - the right-wing extremist,
the right-wing ideologue, you get a sticker everywhere.
Just like in the department stores: Reduced! They reduce you, they reduce you too. They want to do it.
And that's why it's important for all of us to recognize this. This pattern of what's going on there.
[Kla.TV: Yes, they reduce you. On the other hand, they also censor you a lot.
That means you also disappear completely with your opinion.
It is then very heavily censored. Programs are deliberately pushed into the background and are not found.
You once said on SchrangTV that you have to chalk one thing up to Orwell, he understated things.
That's one of your favorite sayings, isn't it?
[Heiko Schrang: Yes, that's right. He really did.
If I saw George now, I'd say, George, you've really understated it.
He would probably say that's really true.
A bit like Sarrazin. He really understated things with "Germany is doing away with itself".
Yes, it's great. Well, it's crass. If you look at all the topics you deal with in your book, and there really are a lot of them.
We have the whole war economy, we have the general economy now worldwide, we also have the
pharmaceutical industry, so many different issues.
Basically, none of these areas would be sustainable at all if the mass media were free and independent, would they?
[Heiko Schrang: ... "Special assets", many people still have that in the back of their minds, it's important.
Debts are incurred and the word "special assets" is simply used.
So you take for the war: we now need 2 trillion in special assets.
Merz doesn't get up early and say I'm going to create a new word. Do you understand?
It's nothing more than a theater event, like actors playing a role.
And that's also the point where people don't understand and say, no, it's a conspiracy.
He can't figure it out. There are others, agencies, who think about it all day long: What kind of word do
we use again - "special assets" sounds much better.
And that's how it goes all the time, I have to throw that in because it keeps coming up
now, the complete distortion in all areas.
Yes, I'm sure you're also alluding a little to the PR departments that are used specifically to create these
words, to get the whole thing out there, to shape thinking.
Back then, Sigmar Gabriel ... when the refugee crisis started, there were protests in
Hanau - the first people took to the streets.
At the time, it was a Bauhaus that was to be converted into the first refugee home.
The people were just demonstrating. Sigmar Gabriel then used the word "pack".
Incidentally, there was no such thing as a "pack" before, he referred to the population
as a pack and called them "angry citizens".
And "the brown East" and all such slogans all come from the same agencies. Just for your information.
And that's why we have to refuse from our point of view, we have to be very careful with our language, because the language is
very precise, and with the word news everything comes across very precisely, it's "re-adjusted". That's why it's called news.
[Kla.TV: Yes, madness! So Heiko, back to the point, but also to the question, if we now look again at all these areas, war
economy, here and there plandemic and pharmaceutical industry - if we had free media, would all this still be sustainable?
If people were going into these insane wars, would we be scared or impressed by pandemics?
Good question. Just profanely now, it wouldn't be like that, but I still don't see it that way, because I think the
process has to take place within yourself. That means...
If you have ultimately been kept small, and you don't believe in yourself, and you don't empower yourself, let's say, give
yourself the law of empowerment, free yourself, because you are not free, you live as a slave, so to speak, but you
don't realize that you actually only have a fence around you.
Other people put the fence there for you and explain to you that every four years you have
the opportunity to choose the color of the fence.
Once you realize, as Jesus did, as they all said, to be free, that you are independent of this fence, that you don't need it,
then ultimately you don't need any media at all, because no matter what media, because you have this quiet voice inside you
that every human being has, this intuition, this divine voice that speaks to you, where you say,
"Man, something's not working with this guy here, okay?
But if you don't have that from my point of view, you can be manipulated again and again, because both sides are inside us.
Goethe already described this, you don't have one side and the other for nothing, i.e. light
and dark, there are these yin and yang signs.
So what you mean sounds nice, there is only free media, yes, but who owns the media now?
What is the intention of the person filming the program?
What is my intention with the book, why exactly do I have these topics in the "Millennium
Lie", why are there not other topics in it?
Do you understand what I mean? We should get rid of it!
That's why my favorite saying is actually this: If you watch less TV, you see through more.
Actually, we should be less concerned with these things.
That's why I kept saying that there's a second part in our book that deals with exactly that:
Polarity, how can you free yourself from these things, who are you actually, what is the meaning of life?
In my view, these are actually the more important questions.
I understand you of course, you have a broadcast format that you address the topics, but you shouldn't get stuck.
So to answer the question again briefly: I don't believe it, so to speak, if you say that now there is
only free media, that we then also live in a free world.
Okay, there are certain topics.
So if the free media were to stop reporting now, we would have a huge problem, but I think we all agree on that.
If you didn't write a book like this and there were no educational programs, we would have a real problem.
We are currently watching Lois Sasek's program "1024 Witnesses", all the victims of ritual violence, that's an area
where we are uncovering things on a grand scale and giving a voice to people who would otherwise have no voice.
You're doing a great job, without you and others many things would not have been uncovered, to be fair.
The migration pact, for example, was another example.
The migration pact was not officially reported on at all.
It was the free media that reported on it back then.
Then came Oliver Welke, who has this "heute-show", and he went on about me, for example, and a few others.
So they twisted the whole thing again.
In other words, they're a bit afraid, I'd say, that people like us - they're also being fought, you too, we too -
will ultimately bring the light to the surface in this dark world, and that's why you're important.
Yes, you too, all of us together, all the viewers too, who are committed to this - and you brought Jesus into play earlier.
He also said that the truth will set you free, and I think that's exactly the point - you
simply have to listen to that inner voice again.
I also have the impression that intuition also teaches you, so once again it really appealed to me that you
actually know inside exactly what is the truth and what is not.
Perhaps I may go in the direction of the landing, but in the foreword to your book Lisa Fitz wrote - I also found this very
interesting - every journalist who rebels indignantly, smugly or even arrogantly against the content, i.e. from your book,
is hereby invited to take an in-depth look at the background.
Do you personally believe that there are still journalists in the mainstream who would accept this invitation?
You were talking about the high agencies earlier.
[Heiko Schrang: But that is negligible at 0.00. I would say that the tendency is no.
There are always some who drop out, Eva Herman was one of them.
Aren't there other names as well? Uwe Stein, maybe we'll get to that later, is also part of a new
project, he's probably no longer in the mainstream.
So there are a few, but unfortunately, to be fair, the masses are all in.
So the state media are part of the system. I never wanted to believe it, I was naive years ago.
I thought to myself, you can't be that stupid, they have to be bought - they have to be bought!
A lot of people ask me what I've noticed, it's like an ideology.
Just like communism back then under Mao Tse-tung or Pol Pot or Stalin or in the GDR, where people said the one
hundred percent SED supporters - no, no, they really exist.
They believe in it. Like some kind of ideology. The communist ideology, that's the right thing, they ignore everything else.
There are a lot of them in the media, a lot of them.
Yes, but how nice that they also have that voice you mentioned somewhere inside them.
I'm really talking about the journalists at the lowest level, who perhaps simply carry out
their orders, follow the agencies, all the terms.
There is no hope, do you think, that they will be awakened or awakened or accept this invitation.
I can only say to them, think about it now rather than before.
Because the AI will replace you all anyway. That's already the case.
There are very few editors left at all, because the AI writes all the articles.
They should leave the sinking ship at some point - not like many who still think they are on the Titanic and are
celebrating and enjoying themselves. But it's sinking right now!
Ultimately, this system is completely doomed, no matter in which areas.
You can then take what you want. Whether VW kicks out 35,000 people right now who have all been lied to and betrayed - when
the SPD was still a co-partner of VW in Lower Saxony - you can take all other areas, you can
take the refugee issue, the migration issue...
There is no money for Germans, for roads, everything is over in Berlin!
You can take all areas. It's positive, I have to say, because everything just pops up.
Either I recognize it and say I'm not going to go along with it anymore. Or I think I'm still going to go
along with it to the end and continue to lie and cheat.
I very much believe in karma. But karma will catch up with you at some point, faster than ever.
From my point of view, we are at a time when these forces of light, or call them truth, are
increasingly coming to light. And that's a good thing.
That's a good thing, exactly. You can see that with more and more people.
It's incredible how much networking is taking place, how many formats, how many movements there are.
That is excellent. Dear Heiko, thank you very much. That gives us hope for the future.
I heard that you also have a new book that you are in the process of publishing.
Did I understand that correctly? Can you say one more sentence about that?
[Heiko Schrang: Yes, in the end it's about one thing. It's not about just any book, but you have to imagine that the slogan after
the Second World War was "Never again war". Never again war!
When I think back to the so-called peace movement in the early 1980s, the slogan was "Creating peace without weapons".
The same people are now out and about saying, "Peace can only be achieved with weapons."
That is a complete Orwellian twist.
In other words, it's really only about one thing: war or peace.
From my point of view, we are living in an absolutely crass time, where it is an absurdity that every day - just look at the news -
we now want ... so a Jens Spahn, who is involved in mask deals, in all kinds of other things, has never served, is now
telling us that we have to ... it could be that a duty is coming, I'll say carefully ... They are working on it.
That means we have to talk about peace. Not just talk about peace, we have to live it.
And now many people have come together, you have to imagine.
And you can't explain that so easily, it's unimaginable.
This is a project that, in my opinion, is one of the biggest of the last ten years: "Peace at
last - 100 personalities" show civil courage.
People who sometimes have different opinions and yet, along the lines of "We are the World", back then Band Aid, where Bob Geldof
brought together all the big names at Wembley Stadium - you know - Queen, David Bowie, they were all there, George
Michael, they were all there because they had a goal, it was about Ethiopia, that they donated to it.
And this is about peace. And there are personalities involved, I'll read a few out of hundreds: Sucharit Bhakdi, Philipp Hopp,
Daniele Ganser is there, Markus Krall is there, Kayvan Soufi-Siavash (Ken Jebsen), Dr. Michael Nehls, Ulrike Guérot,
Prof. Max Otte, former soccer world champion Thomas Berthold, Gerald Hüther, Ruediger Dahlke, Lisa Fitz, Marco
Rima, Tom Lausen, Andreas Popp, Marc Friedrich, Hans-Joachim Maaz, Jürgen Fliege, Uwe Steimle and, and, and.
And that is the exciting thing, that we have said that completely different people have brought people together.
I don't have much to do with it, it's only published by us at the publishing house.
But, all I can say is that it's so big and the mainstream is afraid of it. Really really scared.
Because you always want to divide people. The one against the one.
There is someone who is Jewish by denomination, for example, who writes in there, explaining how
it is that we should talk to Palestinians anyway.
Someone else, a well-known editor - I won't say his name now, but he was kicked out by the
public broadcasters - also talks about this case.
Doctors, scientists, stock market people - you know a few names - they are all there. This is really about peace!
And that's why, in my view, this project is incredibly important.
And anyone who has children or knows someone who might be called up for military service should read this book first.
You'll get goosebumps when you see how people see it there.
And we really should all stand together in this difficult hour.
But as I said, from November 28th, it won't be there before then, it's a secret, so to speak, that I'm
revealing here now, and you won't find it anywhere.
Please wait until the 28th. At Macht-steuert-Wissen Verlag in the store.
Or then probably also at the other major retailers from December, early December.
Heiko, I would like to say a huge thank you for taking the time to take us on this short flight of
fancy, from the problems up to the four agencies.
I think we'll keep at it. We can continue to uncover things, the awakening process can no longer be stopped.
Thank you very much. I wish you lots of success in everything you do, lots of energy in everything!
And I look forward to seeing you again soon.
Thank you - you too.
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