WEBVTT

00:00.164 --> 00:04.601
Abantu abaninzi bayakopa nje kwi-dpa, igama ngeligama.

00:04.601 --> 00:08.950
Uze ubone ephephandabeni ukuba ngoku
zizihloko ezifanayo kuyo yonke indawo.

00:08.950 --> 00:15.189
kutshiwo ngokusesikweni kudliwanondlebe ukuba siphila kwixesha
lobuyatha beendaba ezifikelela kubantu abaninzi

00:15.189 --> 00:20.864
kwaye uGustave Le Bon wabhala "The Psychology of
Crowds" kwiminyaka engaphezu kwe-130 eyadlulayo.

00:20.864 --> 00:25.214
Iqulethe yonke into ekufuneka uyazi
malunga nendlela yokulawula izihlwele.

00:25.214 --> 00:30.644
ngokwenene uphila njengesicaka,
awuqondi nje ukuba ungqongwe luthango.

00:30.644 --> 00:36.248
Abanye abantu bakubekela ucingo, baze bakuxelele ukuba
qho emva kweminyaka emine unethuba lokukhetha umbala walo.

00:36.248 --> 00:40.524
Intetho endiyithanda kakhulu yile: Abo babukela
umabonakude kancinci, babona ngokucaca ngakumbi.

00:40.524 --> 00:50.089
Bakholelwa kuko. Njengoluhlobo oluthile lwembono. Imbono
yobukomanisi yeyona nto ilungileyo, bayayihoya yonke enye into.

00:50.089 --> 00:53.527
Zininzi kakhulu kumajelo eendaba, zininzi ngokwenene.

00:53.527 --> 00:56.385
Uza kuqhwanyazwa xa ubona indlela abantu balapho abakubona ngayo.

00:56.385 --> 00:59.651
Kwaye ngokwenene sonke kufuneka simi kunye kweli xesha linzima.

00:59.651 --> 01:03.667
Ewe, babukeli abathandekayo, uHeiko Schrang, ngubani ongamazi?

01:03.667 --> 01:10.109
Ungumbhali weencwadi ezithengiswa kakhulu, umpapashi weencwadi,
isithethi kwi-AZK ye-15, unejelo likaYouTube elinabalandeli

01:10.109 --> 01:17.077
abangama-170,000 abamangalisayo, kwaye, njengomntu othanda
uxolo, ungomnye wabantu abaziwayo kakhulu kwicandelo lemfundo.

01:17.077 --> 01:20.452
Wamkelekile kwi-Kla.TV, Heiko
othandekayo, kuyavuya kakhulu ukuba lapha nathi.

01:20.452 --> 01:28.040
Molo, Mathias othandekayo. Enkosi ngokundimema, kwaye
ndinqwenelela ababukeli konke okuhle, ewe. Enkosi kakhulu.

01:28.040 --> 01:32.558
Heiko othandekayo, ubhale incwadi, kwaye incwadi
yakho entsha ibizwa ngokuba "Ubuxoki BeNkulungwane."

01:32.558 --> 01:37.043
Kuyo, ujongana nemiba ebuthathaka kwaye
uyihlolisise ngokunzulu okumangalisayo.

01:37.043 --> 01:41.081
Nangona kunjalo, ifundeka lula
kakhulu kwaye ngokwenene itsala umfundi.

01:41.081 --> 01:45.644
Incwadi yabhalwa emva kobhubhane
we-coronavirus. Ingaba eli xesha likukhuthaze ukuba

01:45.644 --> 01:49.268
ubhale le ncwadi? Okanye ibikho esinye isizathu?

01:49.268 --> 01:50.580
Hayi nyani, ayintsha kangako.

01:50.580 --> 01:54.380
Incwadi yapapashwa phantsi konyaka odlulileyo,
ngoko ke eneneni ixesha elide emva kweCorona.

01:54.380 --> 01:58.901
ICorona ingowama-2020/2021 – ingaba sinalo unxulumano nayo?

01:58.901 --> 02:01.330
Kodwa umbuzo wakho usengqiqweni.

02:01.330 --> 02:04.715
Ekugqibeleni, ibikukho isizathu esinye kuphela:

02:04.715 --> 02:08.668
Ndikhuphe iincwadi zam ezindala,
kule meko "The Lie of the Century".

02:08.668 --> 02:16.042
Bendifuna ukujonga imithombo yakudala ndaza ndothuka
kakhulu ukufumanisa ukuba uninzi lwayo ayisekho kwi-intanethi.

02:16.042 --> 02:18.690
Ndifumene oko kuyaphazamisa kakhulu, kuba bubuyatha.

02:18.690 --> 02:25.050
Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba ngoku kukho ukufana
okukhulu apho, ngeGoogle, kwaye ngoku kuqhubeka ngeChatGPT.

02:25.050 --> 02:30.233
Ngoko ke ndacinga, ukuba bayaqhubeka becima yonke
into, kuya kusala inyaniso enye kuphela: leyo

02:30.233 --> 02:33.090
evela kwiSebe leNyani, okufana ne "1984" ka-Orwell.

02:33.090 --> 02:35.035
Ndaza ndacinga, akunakuba ngolu hlobo.

02:35.035 --> 02:40.800
Ngoko ke ndacinga, kulungile, ekugqibeleni
uza kubhala enye incwadi yezizukulwana ezizayo.

02:40.800 --> 02:47.509
Kuba ndikholelwa ukuba baya besiya ngakulo mkhwa,
nge-AI, apho unoluvo olusele lulungisiwe kwangaphambili, olu

02:47.509 --> 02:51.276
– ngokokuthanda kwabo basemagunyeni – lulawulwe yibali.

02:51.276 --> 02:56.933
Kwaye nam ndinabantwana, kwaye ndinoxanduva, ngokokubona kwam,
hayi kuphela kubantwana bam, abazukulwana bam nabanye

02:56.933 --> 03:03.329
abantu, ukuze umntu akwazi ukuthi: Kulungile, nantsi
incwadi yereferensi – uyifundile – olu hlobo lwe-encyclopaedia.

03:03.329 --> 03:04.771
Siza kuthetha ngemixholo embalwa.

03:04.771 --> 03:08.803
Ngoko ke ungafumana yonke into apho, indlela zonke iimfazwe
ezaqala ngayo: ngubani owayesemva kwazo,

03:08.803 --> 03:12.383
amagama nezifane ziyanikwa, ukubulawa
kukaKennedy, i-coronavirus – kwenzeka ntoni apho?

03:12.383 --> 03:14.297
Nditsho, leyo sele iphelelwe lixesha, incwadi yam (...).

03:14.297 --> 03:17.008
Ngaphambili, ndabhala phantsi
izinto ezingoku sele ziphumile zonke.

03:17.008 --> 03:20.320
Okwangoku, kuqhushumba iindaba ezothusayo nganye emva kwenye.

03:20.320 --> 03:24.967
Kwaye yiyo lonto ke eyenza ukuba ndithi,
kulungile, le yinto ehamba nazo zonke izihloko.

03:24.967 --> 03:28.580
Kulungile, andicingi ukuba kufuneka ndibhale
enye into, kuba yonke into sele ibhaliwe ngoku.

03:28.580 --> 03:32.340
Kwaye ukuba awukasiqondi de kube ngoku,
musa ukuqonda gwenxa – awusakwazi kubanceda.

03:32.340 --> 03:37.060
Ngokwenene uye wathetha ngezihloko
ezininzi ezahlukeneyo waza waziphengulula nzulu.

03:37.060 --> 03:41.420
Kule ncoko, ngoku ndingathanda
ukugxila kancinci kumxholo weendaba.

03:41.420 --> 03:47.683
Ukwakhankanye amajelo eendaba kwinqaku, kodwa uphinde
wenza oko ngokuphindaphindiweyo kuyo yonke incwadi.

03:47.683 --> 03:55.560
Abantu abaninzi bacinga ukuba amajelo eendaba anika iimbono
ezahlukeneyo kwaye wonke umntu unokuzakhela uluvo lwakhe.

03:55.560 --> 03:59.555
Kwincwadi yakho, nangona kunjalo,
umzobo wakho weendaba wahlukile kancinci.

03:59.555 --> 04:04.782
Ngoko ke, yintoni oyibona ingeyingxaki kumajelo eendaba?

04:04.782 --> 04:07.488
Ngokoluvo lwam, le asiyongxaki intsha; ibisoloko ikho.

04:07.488 --> 04:12.002
Ukuba ukhangela imbali yale nto kancinci, uya kufumanisa ukuba
u-Edward Bernays – ndinokucebisa ababukeli

04:12.002 --> 04:16.688
ngo-Eddie Bernays kuphela – wabhala incwadi ethi
"Propaganda" kwiminyaka engaphezu kwe-100 eyadlulayo.

04:16.688 --> 04:31.621
Eli ndoda ngokwenene ngulo waseka ii-arhente zonxibelelwano
noluntu (...) inike abasemagunyeni iindlela zokuqhatha abantu.

04:31.621 --> 04:39.612
Ndingathi nokuba ibingu-Adolf Hitler okanye abanye, ezi zinto
zisasetyenziswa nanamhlanje. Ngamanye amazwi, ayinto intsha.

04:39.612 --> 04:47.013
Kakade ke, ufumana imvakalelo yokuba, kulungile, kwi-GDR kwakukho
iitshaneli ezimbini, i-DDR1 ne-DDR2. Kwaye isizukulwana sam

04:47.013 --> 04:51.112
sikwakhumbula ixesha apho kwakukho iitshaneli ezimbalwa kuphela.

04:51.112 --> 04:55.180
Ngo-1987, kwavela i-Sat.1, i-RTL, njl., iithelivizhini zabucala.

04:55.180 --> 04:58.782
Ngaphambili, bekukho inani
elilinganiselweyo kuphela lezikhululo zikamabonakude.

04:58.782 --> 05:02.500
Kwaye ekugqibeleni, kwavela amakhulu eetshaneli.

05:02.500 --> 05:09.541
Abantu bathi, "Heyi, ngoku sinokufumana
ngokwenene ulwazi olupheleleyo noluzimeleyo."

05:09.541 --> 05:15.570
Kwaye bendisoloko ndiyibuza le nto, kwaneminyaka engaphezu
kwama-20 eyadlulayo, kuba ndaqaphela ukuba xa kuziwa kwiingxelo

05:15.570 --> 05:20.858
zeendaba ezibaluleke kakhulu – oko kukuthi, kwimiba engundoqo,
nokuba yayiMfazwe yesibini yaseGulf ngo-2003

05:20.858 --> 05:25.655
okanye neyokuqala yaseGulf ngo-1991 –
kwakubonakala imifanekiso efanayo kuyo yonke indawo.

05:25.655 --> 05:30.472
Nokuba kunjani, xa ubukele i-CNN, ubona
imifanekiso efanayo kwiindaba zemihla ngemihla, ubona

05:30.472 --> 05:33.705
imifanekiso efanayo nakwezinye izitishi nazo.

05:33.705 --> 05:40.371
Kwakumntatheli kamabonakude kuphela obukekhangeleka
ngokwahlukileyo, kodwa umyalezo wawufana kuyo yonke indawo.

05:40.371 --> 05:43.199
Kwaye kwanangelo xesha, ndazibuza: Ingaba oko kunokwenzeka njani?

05:43.199 --> 05:46.507
Kuba xa yonke into izimele kangaka kwaye
wonke umntu ekuthengisela: "Sineentatheli zethu

05:46.507 --> 05:48.609
kwaye ziyahamba ziya apha naphaya ngoku" (...).

05:48.609 --> 05:52.968
Kodwa xa kwakufikwa kwimiba ebaluleke
kakhulu, yayikukho uluvo olunye nje olugqibezelayo.

05:52.968 --> 05:56.319
Kwaye ngokoluvo lwam, ngoku imbi ngaphezu kokuba ibikhe yanjalo.

05:56.319 --> 06:01.378
Waphendula ngaloo nto ngelithi: Akukhathaliseki
kwaphela nokuba kukho amawaka ee-channels okanye akunjalo.

06:01.378 --> 06:12.478
Zine kuphela iiarhente zeendaba, njengoko ukhankanyile: i-AP,
i-Associated Press, i-AFP, ne-Reuters, zonke zaziwa kakhulu.

06:12.478 --> 06:16.401
I-Reuters sele iphantse ibe neminyaka eyi-150
ubudala, khawucinge nje ngaloo nto, kwaye

06:16.401 --> 06:18.107
ke kukho i-dpa, i-Arhente yeendaba yaseJamani.

06:18.107 --> 06:22.607
Kubabukeli abanomdla – kufuneka niyinike ingqalelo
le nto – nisoloko nibona eJamani: dpa – kubhalwe

06:22.607 --> 06:25.540
ngoonobumba abancinci kakhulu – dpa, dpa, ingxelo ye-dpa.

06:25.540 --> 06:31.548
Oko kuthetha ukuba baphuma noko kufuneka kuziswe.

06:31.548 --> 06:36.029
Abantu abaninzi bayakopa nje kwi-dpa, igama ngeligama.

06:36.029 --> 06:40.370
Uze ubone ephephandabeni ukuba ngoku
zizihloko ezifanayo kuyo yonke indawo.

06:40.370 --> 06:46.997
Ewe, ngoko ke kubabukeli kwakhona, usandul' ukuthetha
ngokwahlukahluka okukhulu kwemidiya, kwaye ngoku uthi le midiya

06:46.997 --> 06:54.248
zahlukeneyo – njengoko kubonakala xa uqala ukujonga, kuba zininzi
iifomathi ezahlukeneyo – kodwa eneneni zikopisha kuphela kwezi

06:54.248 --> 06:58.520
arhente zine, okanye zikopisha kuzo ubukhulu becala, akunjalo?

06:58.520 --> 07:03.447
Ewe, yinto ekrelekrele leyo. Mandiyibeke ngolu hlobo: njengoko
benditshilo, ngesiqhelo, andifuni kuphika ukuba

07:03.447 --> 07:08.018
kusenokubakho umahluko omncinci wengingqi
kwiingxelo eziqhelekileyo, kunokwenzeka ukuba kunjalo.

07:08.018 --> 07:13.973
Kodwa ekugqibeleni, kufuneka uyicinge ngolu hlobo: ijimi enkulu,
kwaye ngaphakathi kuyo kuyimnyama kancinci, kwaye kwikona enye

07:13.973 --> 07:20.420
kukho zonke izibane ezikhanyayo ezijolise kuloo kona, kwaye
kuloo kona, umzekelo, kukho imfazwe yase-Ukraine okanye yaseGaza.

07:20.420 --> 07:26.210
Wonke umntu ujonge le kona kuphela, wonke umntu unika ingxelo
ngale kona inye kuphela, kodwa kwelo jimi inye, kwamanye amazwe,

07:26.210 --> 07:30.162
iYemen umzekelo, nakwezinye iindawo, kukwakho
nemimfazwe, kukwakho nokubulawa kwabantu

07:30.162 --> 07:33.405
abaninzi, kodwa ezi zinto azixeliwe, ngokungathi azikho.

07:33.405 --> 07:37.170
Okwangoku, kuphela okwangoku, andithethi nezinto zembali.

07:37.170 --> 07:41.780
Ukuba sithatha ngokuba imfazwe yase-Ukraine
yaqala ngo-2014, loo nto iyaziwa kakuhle.

07:41.780 --> 07:48.590
Kwaye xa ucinga ukuba omnye wabezindaba abakhulu, endikhe
ndacaphula amazwi akhe kwincwadi yam kwaye ndimhlonipha kakhulu,

07:48.590 --> 07:54.450
uPeter Scholl-Latour, owashona ngokudabukisayo ngo-2014,
wakhankanya ngokusesikweni kudliwanondlebe ukuba

07:54.450 --> 08:00.811
siphila kwixesha lobuyatha bamajelo eendaba; oku
kwabonakala ngokucacileyo emva kwemfazwe yase-Ukraine.

08:00.811 --> 08:09.137
Kwakunjalo ngelo xesha. Kwakuboniswa imifanekiso yobuxoki.
Umzekelo, i-nTV yabonisa isihloko esikhulu

08:09.137 --> 08:17.784
esithi imikhosi yeetanki yayingena okanye yawela
ingena e-Ukraine, kodwa eneneni yayiyifoto ka-2008.

08:17.784 --> 08:25.643
Yashicilelwa kwiCaucasus, yayiliqheliselo lomkhosi
waseRashiya, ngoko ke yachazwa ngokungachanekanga.

08:25.643 --> 08:32.320
Kodwa ke, abantu bacinga ukuba, owu, amaRashiya
ayengena apho ngeetanki, kodwa akazange enjenjalo!

08:32.320 --> 08:36.626
Lo ngumzekelo nje omnye. Kwaye
kuhlala kunjalo ngalo lonke ixesha.

08:36.626 --> 08:44.623
Ngelo xesha, kwakukwabalasele xa kwakusithiwa eBerlin, owu, ngoku
kufuneka senze umcu wabantu wabaleki abangamahlwempu – ababeza

08:44.623 --> 08:48.551
ngelo xesha ngeSyria ngo-2015 – kwaye naloo nto yayibalasele.

08:48.551 --> 08:55.419
Emva koko baqhankqalazela eBerlin, bemile ngesandla
esinye besiphethe amakhandlela abaphambukeli abangamahlwempu.

08:55.419 --> 09:00.531
Kwaza kwafunyaniswa ukuba babengengabo abantu
abangama-50,000 apho, njengoko bekuxeliwe, kodwa babengama-5,000

09:00.531 --> 09:03.530
kuphela, kwaye loo nani wawungonelanga ukwenza umcu wabantu.

09:03.530 --> 09:09.543
Ngoko ke bathathe imifanekiso yowama-2003, imfazwe yesibini
e-Ukraine, xa kwakukho uqhanqalazo olukhulu kwaye amakhulu

09:09.543 --> 09:13.280
amawaka abantu baphuma baye ezitratweni – baye bazidibanisa nje.

09:13.280 --> 09:20.680
Uze ufumanise, baze bathi, owu, ngelishwa sithathe
ngempazamo umfanekiso ongachanekanga kwi-archive ye-dpa.

09:20.680 --> 09:28.016
Benza into efanayo kuTrump ngoku, ngale nto
ye-BBC amangalela ngayo. Kwaye ayaphela-pheli.

09:28.016 --> 09:31.886
Eyona nto ibalulekileyo kukuba zimbalwa
ii-arhente, ekufuneka ababukeli bazikhumbule

09:31.886 --> 09:34.780
okanye bazive bekhululekile ukwenza uphando ngazo.

09:34.780 --> 09:39.861
Kwaye oko kububuchule, kuba bambalwa kakhulu
abantu abakwaziyo oko, kodwa bonke banoluvo lunye.

09:39.861 --> 09:45.718
Ukuba ungabaphinda ubafumane ngenye indaba leyo,
ngamaBilderberger nazo zonke iimibutho efihlakeleyo

09:45.718 --> 09:48.841
apho bahlala phantsi baze baxoxe nge-ajenda yabo.

09:48.841 --> 09:51.052
Yitheori yobuqhetseba, ewe, Mathias, uyazi.

09:51.052 --> 09:55.900
Ngokuqinisekileyo, akukho mbuzo ngaloo nto.
Masibeke iikowushini kuloo nto, ewe, kanye.

09:55.900 --> 09:59.983
Kwincwadi yakho, ubhala kwakhona ukuba
ubandakanya isicatshulwa esivela kuJörg Haider:

09:59.983 --> 10:04.267
Lowo ubeka imigaqo ulawula iingcinga – imiba
ebalulekileyo iba yinto ekungathethwa ngayo kwezopolitiko kwaye

10:04.267 --> 10:06.826
ubuxoki buphakanyiswa bube yimfundiso engathandabuzekiyo.

10:06.826 --> 10:12.840
Ewe, le mfazwe yengqondo, njengoko uyibiza, isebenza njani
eneneni, okanye unazo naziphi na iimzekelo ezithile

10:12.840 --> 10:17.339
ezivela kwiziganeko zehlabathi langoku, kwinto eyenzekayo ngoku?

10:17.339 --> 10:23.579
Ewe, ukunyaniseka, ndiyavuya ukuthetha izinto ezimbalwa,
kodwa kufuneka nditsho ukuba andisalunandaba noko ababukeli

10:23.579 --> 10:27.320
bafuna ukukuva, kodwa kunjalo xa sele unamava amade kule nto.

10:27.320 --> 10:28.991
Sisoloko sithetha ngokwamkela,
kodwa kutheni sifanele sitshintshe?

10:28.991 --> 10:33.350
Uhlala uselokishini yokuqonda, uhlala uqonda,
kuba ngaxa lithile uza kuphambana, kuba umyalezo

10:33.350 --> 10:35.824
olandelayo, olandelayo, olandelayo, olandelayo...

10:35.824 --> 10:41.100
Kuba ubuxoki, kufuneka ucinge, bunzulu kakhulu,
kwaye buyoyikisa kum, ukuba abantu balandela obu buxoki.

10:41.100 --> 10:51.468
Ngoko ke, umzekelo, ukuba uve kumajelo eendaba
ukuba, ngokweSebe lezoKhuselo, kwenzeke oku noku.

10:51.468 --> 10:56.585
Uhlala usazi ukuba ngabo abasemva kwaso,
okanye ukuba iingxelo zobuntlola zithe oku nokuya.

10:56.585 --> 11:03.860
Ngoko ke, oko kuthetha ukuba singaqonda, kuba basebenzisana
ngokusondeleyo kwaye nazo zonke iintetho zobuchwepheshe...

11:03.860 --> 11:11.238
Yiloo nto ngoku idika, nokuba yigama nje elithi "ummi onomsindo",
elingazange libekho ngaphambili, "ummi weReich", igama

11:11.238 --> 11:18.098
elenziweyo lokuhlazisa abantu, "eyasekunene
efihlakeleyo", endiyiyo nam, nayo ayizange ibekho ngaphambili.

11:18.098 --> 11:20.488
Kufuneka uzifumanele isichazi-magama, sinomdla kakhulu.

11:20.488 --> 11:27.360
Ndakha ndanikezela ngentetho ngale nto, ndicinga ukuba
yayikwindawo yenu, e-AZK, malunga nesigama esisetyenziswayo.

11:27.360 --> 11:31.099
Kwakudala oko, kwaye la magama akathethwanga kwaphela apho.

11:31.099 --> 11:39.574
"Abavukeli", ah, abavukeli – abavukeli luhlobo oluthile
lwamaIndiya. Balinganisile, bathi, "ukuze

11:39.574 --> 11:47.033
kuphetshwe intlekele yobuntu" – oko kuvakala
kulungile – "imikhosi yogcino-xolo" kufuneka ...

11:47.033 --> 11:57.761
La ngamagama onke adalelwe ukusasazwa kumajelo eendaba
aphambili, apho, ngokungathi, abephethwe zi-arhente ezimbalwa.

11:57.761 --> 12:07.891
Ekugqibeleni, ezi nkwama zizilalayo zihlaselwa ngamagama anjenge
"mikhosi yolondolozo-xolo" ekufuneka iye kwilizwe X okanye

12:07.891 --> 12:13.403
Y, kufuneka iye apho ukuya kulwela idemokhrasi nenkululeko.

12:13.403 --> 12:17.924
Ngokwesi siganeko, igama elithi "collateral
damage" laqanjwa ngexesha leMfazwe yaseKosovo

12:17.924 --> 12:21.788
ngo-1999, umzekelo, kwaye lalingekho ngaphambi koko.

12:21.788 --> 12:28.487
Ngoko ke ngexesha leMfazwe yaseVietnam, kwakungekho monakalo
ungajongwanga. Wawubona imifanekiso yeebhombu ze-napalm zisiwa,

12:28.487 --> 12:36.237
kwaye yiyo leyo imifanekiso elusizi ngokugqithisileyo: abantwana
abancinci olusu lwabo lutsha ngokungathi yijeli emizimbeni yabo.

12:36.237 --> 12:41.396
Ngoko ke bazithethela, kulungile, sifunde isifundo sethu,
asisakwazi ukwenza loo nto kwakhona, ngoku kufuneka senze into

12:41.396 --> 12:45.007
efana nomdlalo wevidiyo... kudubula idrone kuze
kuvele into ethile, size sithi kubo,

12:45.007 --> 12:48.223
kulungile, bekukho "umonakalo ongajoliswanga" kananjalo.

12:48.223 --> 12:51.274
Ngamafutshane, abantu abangengabo amajoni,
abafazi, abantwana njalo njalo bayabulawa.

12:51.274 --> 12:58.569
Kwaye kunjalo ngalo lonke ixesha, ukugqwetha okupheleleyo,
iqela elingabantu abagqithisileyo abakwicala lasekunene

12:58.569 --> 13:02.779
kunye nelo linxibelelana nalo, ngoko ke yintshabalaliso nje.

13:02.779 --> 13:07.023
Kuba yonke intetho, ngokomoya kakhulu, inentshukumo.

13:07.023 --> 13:10.607
Ukuba ngoku ndithi, Mathias othandekayo,
uyindoda emangalisayo, okanye ndithi,

13:10.607 --> 13:13.291
ndiyakuthanda, okanye ndithi, ndiyakuzonda, Mathias.

13:13.291 --> 13:19.745
Owu, amazwi anokubulala, masithi. Ilizwi ngalinye
linemilo yokungcangcazela, bayayazi kakuhle loo nto.

13:19.745 --> 13:23.069
Kwaye yiyo loo nto ndala ukuthatha ezi zinto.

13:23.069 --> 13:27.733
Yiyo loo nto ungayi kubona nakuphi na kwividiyo zam
apho ndikhankanya igama elithi "Schwurbler" nakanye.

13:27.733 --> 13:31.338
Kum, yeyona nto ingaqhelekanga kakhulu,
kuba elo gama belingekho ngaphambili.

13:31.338 --> 13:37.974
Njengoko abantu abaninzi bephinda-phinda, bathi,
kufuneka ucinge, bafana nengwevu, nayo ikopa yonke into.

13:37.974 --> 13:41.317
Anditsho ukuba bonke abantu banjalo, hayi phakathi
kwenu, ewe kukho abantu abacinga ngokukhululekileyo.

13:41.317 --> 13:46.663
Kodwa ngelishwa, yindlela abantu abaninzi abanjalo;
bayakwamkela oko, kwaye uGustave Le Bon wabhala "The

13:46.663 --> 13:49.979
Psychology of Crowds" kwiminyaka engaphezu kwe-130 eyadlulayo.

13:49.979 --> 13:56.067
Ikuxelela yonke into ekufuneka uyazi malunga nendlela
yokulawula izihlwele. Kodwa ngandlel' ithile ihlala isebenza.

13:56.067 --> 13:58.731
Ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo ukwinqanaba elahlukileyo ngokupheleleyo
kuba nawe ukwenzile uphando olunzulu ngalo mbandela.

13:58.731 --> 14:03.488
Ndingakucingela kakuhle ukuba
udiniwe ngokwenene zezinye zezi migaqo.

14:03.488 --> 14:09.263
Kodwa ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile, nakumbukeli,
ukuba aqonde ukuba into enje isebenza njani xa

14:09.263 --> 14:12.290
sinamasebe amane ngabom asasaza amagama athile.

14:12.290 --> 14:16.987
Baphinda bathye umhlaba kubantu besithi ngabantu abakholelwa
kwiingcinga zobuqhinga, abagqithisileyo abakwicala lasekunene,

14:16.987 --> 14:21.135
abantu bezimfihlo, njengoko usandul' ukutsho, ngabahlulahluli
okanye nantoni na. Maninzi kakhulu amagama anencasa embi.

14:21.135 --> 14:25.916
Masithathe uBjörn Höcke njengomzekelo. Kufuneka
nditsho kwangoko ukuba andinamdla kangako kwi-AfD.

14:25.916 --> 14:31.684
Kodwa ke baya kuthi: UBjörn Höcke, onerekhodi
yolwaphulo-mthetho kwaye ngokufanelekileyo anokubizwa

14:31.684 --> 14:34.836
ngokuba yifashisti, wenze le nto nale namhlanje.

14:34.836 --> 14:42.309
Kodwa awusoze uve umntu esithi, "Ngoku kuza kunikwa intetho
ngumfazi onoxanduva oluthile kwiimfazwe

14:42.309 --> 14:50.492
ezininzi, oye wafunga ubuxoki enkundleni, oye wenza le
nto, naleyo nelinye..." Ngoku u-Angela Merkel uza.

14:50.492 --> 14:57.424
Ngoko ke awusoze uve omnye usopolitiki, nokuba waseGreen okanye
waseLeft-wing, esithi uza kufumana isisombululo, umzekelo uLars

14:57.424 --> 15:06.035
Klingbeil, owayesakuba yindoda ye-Antifa, uLars Klingbeil, ngoku
uyiNobhala Wezangaphandle, okanye ungubani, uNobhala WezoQoqosho?

15:06.035 --> 15:08.730
Ukuthetha nawe ngoku. Awuzukuyiva loo nto.

15:08.730 --> 15:15.007
Akuyi kuva: Owayesakuba ngusomakadebona wakwa-BlackRock,
owayekwangumlungu webhodi ye-Atlantikbrücke, owaphula

15:15.007 --> 15:21.910
ilizwi lakhe kwiintsuku ezimbini emva kokuba
efungiswe njengoTshansela, ngoku uthetha nani, Friedrich Merz.

15:21.910 --> 15:28.194
Akwenzeki. Kodwa wonke umntu onguye, nokuba ndim – ukuba
uchwetheza igama lam – umgqithisi wasekunene, umxhasi

15:28.194 --> 15:31.795
weengcinga zasekunene, ufumana ileyibhile kuyo yonke indawo.

15:31.795 --> 15:38.691
Kanye njengaseevenkileni ezinkulu: kuthotywe amaxabiso!
Bakuthoba nawe, bakuthoba nawe. Bafuna ukukwenza oko.

15:38.691 --> 15:43.215
Kwaye yiyo loo nto kubalulekile ukuba
sonke siqaphele le pateni isenzekayo apho.

15:43.215 --> 15:47.612
Ewe, bayakunciphisa. Kwelinye icala, baphinde banciphise kakhulu.

15:47.612 --> 15:50.667
Oko kuthetha ukuba ulahleka ngokupheleleyo ngoluvo lwakho.

15:50.667 --> 15:56.649
Kukho ucensha olomeleleyo kakhulu. Iinkqubo
zityhalelwa ngabom ngasemva kwaye azifumaneki.

15:56.649 --> 16:02.900
Wakha watsho kwiSchrangTV ukuba enye into
ekufuneka umncome ngayo uOrwell kukuba wazithoba izinto.

16:02.900 --> 16:04.879
Lelinye lawona mazwi wakho uwathandayo, akunjalo?

16:04.879 --> 16:08.261
Ewe, kunjalo. Wenza ngenene.

16:08.261 --> 16:12.538
Ukuba ndingambona uGeorge ngoku,
ndingathi, George, awuyichazanga ngokwaneleyo.

16:12.538 --> 16:13.804
Mhlawumbi angathi, "Yinyani leyo."

16:13.804 --> 16:18.699
Ufana noSarrazin. Uthethile
ngokuthambileyo ngokuthi "IJamani iziphelisa ngokwayo".

16:18.699 --> 16:23.248
Ewe, yinto ephambeneyo. Ndithetha ukuthi, yinto
ephambeneyo. Ukuba ujonga zonke izihloko

16:23.248 --> 16:26.213
eziziqulathe encwadini yakho, kwaye zininzi ngokwenene.

16:26.213 --> 16:30.657
Sinomnotho wemfazwe uphela, ngoku sinomnotho
wehlabathi jikelele, sikwanalo neshishini

16:30.657 --> 16:33.779
lamachiza, zininzi kakhulu izihloko ezahlukeneyo.

16:33.779 --> 16:40.860
Enyanisweni, akukho kwala makhulu angaphila ngokuzinzileyo ukuba
amajelo eendaba ebengakhululekanga kwaye ezimele, akunjalo?

16:40.860 --> 16:45.392
… "I-asethi ekhethekileyo" – abantu abaninzi
basenalo elo gama engqondweni, nto leyo ibalulekile.

16:45.392 --> 16:48.212
Kuyenzeka kubekho amatyala kwaye kusetyenziswa
nje igama elithi "ingxowa-mali ekhethekileyo".

16:48.212 --> 16:56.363
Ngoko ke uthi ngenxa yemfazwe, ngoku sidinga
i-£2 yetriliyoni kwingxowa-mali ekhethekileyo.

16:56.363 --> 17:01.090
UMerz akavuki nje ekuseni aze athi,
"Ndiza kudala igama elitsha." Uyaqonda?

17:01.090 --> 17:07.207
Akunanto ingaphaya komdlalo
weqonga, njengabadlali abadlala indima.

17:07.207 --> 17:11.207
Kwaye yile kanye ingongoma apho abantu
bangaqondiyo baze bathi, hayi, yingqhinga.

17:11.207 --> 17:16.230
Akayi kuqonda. Kukho ezinye iiarhente ezicinga ngayo imini
yonke: Yeyiphi igama esinokulisebenzisa kwakhona –

17:16.230 --> 17:19.245
kulungile, "ingxowa-mali ekhethekileyo" ivakala ngcono kakhulu.

17:19.245 --> 17:23.000
Kwaye ke kuyaqhubeka ngalo lonke ixesha,
kufuneka ndiyikhankanye le nto kuba isoloko ivela

17:23.000 --> 17:25.240
ngoku, ukugqwethwa okupheleleyo kuzo zonke iinkalo.

17:25.240 --> 17:36.537
Ewe, mhlawumbi ukwabhekisa kumacandelo e-PR amiselwe ngokukodwa
ukudala la magama, ukukhupha yonke le nto, nokubumba iingcinga.

17:36.537 --> 17:41.316
Ngelo xesha, uSigmar Gabriel... xa kwaqala
ingxaki yababaleki, kwabakho uqhanqalazo eHanau –

17:41.316 --> 17:43.820
olokuqala apho abantu bathatha khona iindlela.

17:43.820 --> 17:48.274
Ngelo xesha, yayimalunga nesakhiwo seBauhaus
esasiza kugqithiselwa sibe likhaya lokuqala lwababaleki.

17:48.274 --> 17:53.977
Abantu babesenza umboniso nje. Emva koko uSigmar Gabriel
wasebenzisa igama elithi "isihlwele esingalawulekiyo".

17:53.977 --> 17:58.366
Kanti ke, igama elithi "rabble" lalingekho
ngaphambili; wayebhekisa kubantu njenge "rabble"

17:58.366 --> 18:00.979
waza wababiza ngokuba "zii-memi ezicaphukileyo".

18:00.979 --> 18:08.262
Kwaye "the brown East" nazo zonke ezo ntlobo
zeeslogan, zonke zivela kumanqanaba afanayo. Yeyokwazisa nje.

18:08.262 --> 18:09.043
Ewe, kuhle kakhulu.

18:09.043 --> 18:14.513
Kwaye seso isizathu sokuba, ngokokubona kwethu, kufuneka
siyichithe, kufuneka sinikele ingqalelo enkulu kulwimi lwethu,

18:14.513 --> 18:18.828
kuba ulwimi lucacile kakhulu, kwaye igama elithi
"iindaba" lidlulisela yonke into ngokucacileyo, kuba

18:18.828 --> 18:22.704
"zixeliwe". Kungenxa yoko le nto zibizwa ngokuba ziindaba.

18:22.704 --> 18:31.162
Ewe, akukholeleki! Ngoko ke, Heiko, masibuyele kumxholo
ngokufutshane, kodwa sikwaphendule nombuzo: ukuba besinamajelo

18:31.162 --> 18:35.931
eendaba akhululekileyo, ingaba nanye kwezi zinto ibiya kusenzeka?

18:35.931 --> 18:40.428
Ukuba abantu babesiya emfazweni kwezi ngxabano
zingavakaliyo, besingazivumela ukuba sothuswe okanye

18:40.428 --> 18:43.008
sidideke ziintlobo zezifo eziyingozi ezikude phaya?

18:43.008 --> 18:49.375
Lo ngumbuzo olungileyo. Ngamafutshane, akuyi kuba njalo,
kodwa andikuboni ngolo hlobo kuba ndikholelwa ukuba le nkqubo

18:49.375 --> 18:52.733
kufuneka yenzeke ngaphakathi komntu. Oko kuthetha ukuthi...

18:52.733 --> 19:01.872
Ukuba ekugqibeleni ugcinwe umncinci, kwaye awuzithembi, kwaye
awuzixhobisi, masithi, oko kukuthi, awuziniki amandla

19:01.872 --> 19:07.752
okuzikhulula, kuba awukhululekanga,
ngokwenene uphila njengokhoboka, kodwa

19:07.752 --> 19:11.903
awuqondi ukuba ekugqibeleni ungqongwe luthango.

19:11.903 --> 19:17.877
Abanye abantu bakubekela uthango, baze bakuxelele ukuba qho
emva kweminyaka emine unethuba lokukhetha umbala walolo thango.

19:17.877 --> 19:24.791
Xa uqonda, njengoko watshoyo uYesu, njengoko bonke batshoyo,
ukuba ukhululekile, ukuba azikuxhomekekanga kulo donga, ukuba

19:24.791 --> 19:32.046
awulidingi, ke ekugqibeleni awuyidingi nayiphi na imidiya, kuba
nokuba yeyiphi na imidiya, unelizwi elizolileyo ngaphakathi kuwe

19:32.046 --> 19:37.090
elinalo lonke umntu, le nto iyakucaca kuwe,
eli lizwi likaThixo lithetha nawe, apho uthi,

19:37.090 --> 19:40.440
mfo, akukho nto ilungileyo ngalo mfo, kulungile?

19:40.440 --> 19:48.338
Kodwa ke, ngokoluvo lwam, ukuba awunayo loo nto, unokuthi usoloko
ulawulwa, kuba zombini ezi zinto zikho ngaphakathi kuthi.

19:48.338 --> 19:52.117
UGoethe naye wakuchaza oku: awunayo icala
elinye nelinye ngaphandle kwesizathu, ukukhanya

19:52.117 --> 19:54.413
nobumnyama, zikho ezi mpawu ze-yin ne-yang.

19:54.413 --> 19:58.342
Ngoko ke, le nto uyithethayo ivakala intle,
kukho kuphela amajelo eendaba asimahla, ewe,

19:58.342 --> 20:00.296
kodwa ngubani ongabanini bamajelo eendaba ngoku?

20:00.296 --> 20:03.145
Yintoni injongo yomntu ofilma inkqubo?

20:03.145 --> 20:07.438
Yintoni injongo yam ngale ncwadi, kutheni
ndikhethe ukufaka ezi zihloko kwi-"The Lie of the

20:07.438 --> 20:09.946
Millennium", kutheni ezinye izihloko zingafakwanga?

20:09.946 --> 20:13.688
Uyaqonda into endiyithethayo? Masiqhuliseke koku!

20:13.688 --> 20:18.324
Yiyo loo nto isaci sam esithandwayo eneneni sisithi:
Ukuba ubukela umabonakude kancinci, ubona ngakucace ngakumbi.

20:18.324 --> 20:22.152
Enyanisweni, kufuneka singazikhathazi kangako ngezi zinto.

20:22.152 --> 20:26.995
Yiyo loo nto ndisoloko ndisitsho, kwaye kukho
necandelo lesibini kwincwadi yethu elithetha kanye ngalo mba:

20:26.995 --> 20:33.511
Ipolarity, ungazikhulula njani kwezi zinto,
ungubani na wena ngokwenene, ithetha ntoni ubomi?

20:33.511 --> 20:36.227
Ngokoluvo lwam, la ngokwenene ngawona mibuzo ibalulekileyo.

20:36.227 --> 20:41.680
Ndiyakuqonda, ewe, unofomathi yenkqubo ejongana
nezi ngxaki, kodwa akufuneki uzibambelele kuzo.

20:41.680 --> 20:45.603
Ngoko ke, ukuphendula lo mbuzo ngokufutshane kwakhona:
Ndikufumanisa kunzima ukukholelwa ukuba

20:45.603 --> 20:49.600
ngenxa nje yokuba ngoku sinamajelo eendaba
asimahla, siphila kwihlabathi elikhululekileyo.

20:49.600 --> 20:52.166
Kulungile, kukho izihloko ezithile.

20:52.166 --> 20:54.955
Ngoko ke ukuba amajelo eendaba asimahla ayeyeka
ukunika iindaba ngoku, besiya kuba nengxaki enkulu,

20:54.955 --> 20:56.440
kodwa ndicinga ukuba sonke siyavumelana ngaloo nto.

20:56.440 --> 21:01.023
Ukuba ubungayibhalanga incwadi enje kwaye kungekho
nkqubo zokufundisa, besiya kuba nengxaki yokwenene.

21:01.023 --> 21:07.447
Okwangoku sijonge inkqubo kaLois Sasek ethi "1024 Witnesses",
emalunga nayo yonke imibhiktimes yobundlobongela

21:07.447 --> 21:15.135
bemikhosi. Le yinkalo apho senza umsebenzi omkhulu wophando
kwaye sinika ilizwi kubantu ababeya kuba ngaphandle kwelizwi.

21:15.135 --> 21:19.075
Wenza umsebenzi omhle kakhulu. Ukunyaniseka,
kufuneka kuthiwe ukuba ngaphandle kwakho

21:19.075 --> 21:21.689
nabanye, izinto ezininzi bezingasoze zityhilwe.

21:21.689 --> 21:24.087
Isivumelwano sokufuduka, umzekelo, yayiyeyinye imiba enjalo.

21:24.087 --> 21:27.605
Isivumelwano sokufuduka asizange xinikwe
ingxelo ngaso ngokusesikweni kwaphela.

21:27.605 --> 21:30.876
Yayiyimidiya ekhululekileyo ngelo xesha eyayixela ngale nto.

21:30.876 --> 21:39.793
Kwaza ke wafika uOliver Welke, one "heute-show",
kwaye wayedla ngokundigxeka, mna kunye nabanye abambalwa.

21:39.793 --> 21:41.801
Ngoko bayijikelezisa yonke into kwakhona.

21:41.801 --> 21:47.818
Oko kuthetha ukuba boyika kancinci, ndingatsho, ukuba abantu
abanjengathi – abalwa nathi, nani nathi –

21:47.818 --> 21:53.543
baya kugqibela ngokuzisa ukukhanya kweli
hlabathi linzima, kwaye yiyo loo nto nibalulekileyo.

21:53.543 --> 22:00.373
Ewe, nawe, sonke kunye, bonke ababukeli
abazinikele koku – kwaye uye wakhankanya uYesu ngaphambili.

22:00.373 --> 22:04.628
Uye wathi kananjalo inyaniso iyakukukhulula, kwaye
ndikholelwa ukuba yiloo nto kanye eyona ngongoma:

22:04.628 --> 22:07.008
kufuneka nje uphinde umamele loo lizwi lwangaphakathi.

22:07.008 --> 22:12.954
Nam ndinoluvo olunjalo, ukuba isizathu esingaphakathi
sikufundisa oko, ngoko ke inditsalele umdla kwakhona ukuba

22:12.954 --> 22:17.181
ngokwenene uyazi enzulwini yakho into eyinyani nento engeyiyo.

22:17.181 --> 22:23.672
Mhlawumbi mandigqibezele, kodwa kwintshayelelo yencwadi yakho,
uLisa Fitz wabhala – into endiyifumene inomdla kakhulu – ukuba

22:23.672 --> 22:29.384
nawuphi na unondaba osabela ngomsindo, ukuzithemba
okugqithisileyo okanye nobukroti kwimixholo yencwadi yakho,

22:29.384 --> 22:33.004
ngoku uyamenywa ukuba ajonge ngokusondeleyo imvelaphi yayo.

22:33.004 --> 22:39.580
Ngaba wena ngokwakho ukholelwa ukuba kusekho
iintatheli ezaziwayo ezingayamkela le memo?

22:41.422 --> 22:43.953
Ukhankanye ii-arhente eziphezulu ngaphambili.

22:43.953 --> 22:48.523
Kodwa loo nto ayibalulekanga kwinani
elingu-0.00. Ndingathi hayi, xa sithetha ngokubanzi.

22:48.523 --> 22:54.980
Kusoloko kukho abo baphula umgaqo, uEva Herman wayengomnye wabo.

22:54.980 --> 22:59.794
Akukho namanye amagama na? Uwe Stein,
esinokubuya kuye kamva, naye uyinxalenye yeprojekthi

22:59.794 --> 23:02.355
entsha kwaye akasabonakali kwindawo ephambili.

23:02.355 --> 23:10.225
Kulungile, bakhona abambalwa, kodwa ukuthetha
inyani, uninzi lwabo bayavumelana ngokupheleleyo.

23:10.225 --> 23:13.331
Ngoko ke amajelo eendaba karhulumente
ayinxalenye yale nkqubo. Andizange ndifune

23:13.331 --> 23:15.537
ukukholelwa; ndandingenabuchule, kwiminyaka eyadlulayo.

23:15.537 --> 23:21.737
Ndacinga ndithi, akukho mntu unokuba yisidenge
kangako, kumele ukuba bathethwe – kumele ukuba bathethwe!

23:21.737 --> 23:27.873
Abantu abaninzi bayandibuza ukuba
ndiqaphele ntoni, kuyinto efana nembono-bucala.

23:27.873 --> 23:33.306
Ngoko ke, kanye njengobukomanisi ngelo xesha phantsi kukaMao
Tse-tung okanye uPol Pot okanye uStalin okanye

23:33.306 --> 23:38.276
kwi-GDR, apho babesithi bekukho abaxhasi be-SED
abangama-100% – hayi, hayi, bayakho ngokwenene.

23:38.276 --> 23:44.218
Bayakholelwa kuko. Njengoluhlobo oluthile
lwengcinga. Ingcinga yobukomanisi yeyona nto

23:44.218 --> 23:47.720
ilungileyo, bayayityeshela yonke enye into.

23:47.720 --> 23:51.308
Zininzi kakhulu kumajelo eendaba, zininzi ngokwenene.

23:51.308 --> 23:55.565
Ewe, kodwa hayi indlela emangalisayo ngayo ukuba
nazo zigcine ngaphakathi la mazwi ubethetha ngawo.

23:55.565 --> 24:00.397
Ndithetha ngokwenene ngeentatheli ezikwinqanaba
elisezantsi, ezinokuba zilandela imiyalelo nje, zilandela

24:00.397 --> 24:03.392
ii-arhente, zilandela yonke intetho yobuchwepheshe.

24:03.392 --> 24:09.329
Awucingi ukuba kusekho naliphi na ithemba lokuba baya kuvuswa
okanye bavuselelwe, okanye ukuba baya kuyamkela lo mboniso.

24:09.329 --> 24:13.436
Ekuphela kwento endinokuyithetha kubo yeyokuba,
kungcono nicinge ngayo ngokukhawuleza ngoku kunangaphambili.

24:13.436 --> 24:16.702
Kuba i-AI iza kunithatha indawo nonke kunjalo. Sele kusenzeka.

24:16.702 --> 24:21.340
Zisele zimbalwa kakhulu i-editors,
kuba i-AI ibhala zonke izihloko.

24:21.340 --> 24:26.382
Kufuneka bayishiye le nqanawa isenyongweni ngaxa
lithile – hayi njengabaninzi abasacinga ukuba

24:26.382 --> 24:30.065
baseseTitanic kwaye bebhiyozela bevuya. Kodwa sele iza kunyonga!

24:30.065 --> 24:34.893
Le nkqubo ekugqibeleni iza kusilela,
kungakhathaliseki ukuba yeyiphi imimandla ebandakanyekileyo.

24:34.893 --> 24:42.251
Ungathatha nantoni na oyifunayo. Nokuba i-VW ngoku igxotha abantu
abangama-35,000 abaye bonke baxokiswa baza bangcatshwa – apho

24:42.251 --> 24:47.582
i-SPD yayisengumnini-nxaxheba we-VW eLower Saxony
ngelo xesha – ungathatha nawaphi na amanye

24:47.582 --> 24:51.271
amacandelo, ungathatha imiba yababaleki nokufuduka kwabantu...

24:51.271 --> 24:55.064
Akukho mali yamaJamani, yezindlela, yonke into iphelele eBerlin!

24:55.064 --> 25:00.431
Ungathatha zonke iindawo. Yinto entle,
manditsho, kuba yonke into iyavela ngoku.

25:00.431 --> 25:05.660
Nokuba ndiyakuqonda ndize ndithi, andisayi kuphinda ndihambisane
noku. Okanye ndicinge, ndiza kuqhubeka nokuhambisana nako

25:05.660 --> 25:09.051
kude kube sekupheleni, ndize ndiqhubeke nokuxoka nokukhohlisa.

25:09.051 --> 25:13.967
Karma, ndiyikholelwa kakhulu. Kodwa ngaxa lithile,
i-karma iza kukufumana, ngokukhawuleza kunanini na ngaphambili.

25:13.967 --> 25:18.894
Ngokoluvo lwam, okwangoku sikwixesha apho la mandla
okukhanya, okanye ubize inyaniso, ayeza

25:18.894 --> 25:22.322
ngokwandayo esidlangalaleni. Kwaye loo nto yinto elungileyo.

25:22.322 --> 25:25.485
Kulungile kanye. Ungakubona oko kubantu abaninzi ngakumbi.

25:25.485 --> 25:29.300
Kuyamangalisa ukuba ukunxulumana nabantu kusasazeke kangakanani,
zingaphi iindlela ezikhoyo, zingaphi iintshukumo ezikhoyo.

25:29.300 --> 25:36.291
Kuhle kakhulu oko. Sithandwa Heiko,
enkosi kakhulu. Oko kusinika ithemba ngekamva.

25:36.291 --> 25:39.541
Ndivile ukuba nawe uza kukhupha incwadi entsha.

25:39.541 --> 25:43.163
Ingaba ndiyiqondile loo nto
kakuhle? Ungathetha okunye ngaloo nto?

25:43.163 --> 25:48.404
Ewe, ekugqibeleni imalunga nento enye. Ayimalunga nayiphi na
incwadi, kodwa kufuneka ucinge ukuba isiqubulo emva

25:48.404 --> 25:54.411
kweMfazwe yesiBini yeHlabathi sasisithi "Akusayi
kubakho mfazwe kwakhona". Akusayi kubakho mfazwe kwakhona!

25:54.411 --> 25:59.202
Xa ndicinga ngayo, kwintshukumo ekuthiwa
yeyoxolo ekuqaleni kweminyaka yoo-1980, isiqubulo

25:59.202 --> 26:01.938
sasisithi "yenza uxolo ngaphandle kwezixhobo".

26:01.938 --> 26:06.079
Kwangabo bantu ngoku abaphumileyo besithi,
"Uxolo lunokufunyanwa kuphela ngezixhobo."

26:06.079 --> 26:08.850
Oko kukugwenxa ngokupheleleyo
okufana nokwaseencwadini zika-Orwell.

26:08.850 --> 26:12.040
Oko kuthetha ukuba ngokwenene imalunga
nento enye kuphela: imfazwe okanye uxolo.

26:12.040 --> 26:18.967
Ngokoluvo lwam, siphila kwixesha eliphambeneyo ngokupheleleyo,
apho kungavakaliyo ukuba yonke imihla – khawujonge iindaba –

26:18.967 --> 26:24.999
ngoku sifuna ... kulungile, umntu ofana noJens Spahn,
ongaqhagamshelene nezivumelwano zeemaskhi nazo zonke ezinye

26:24.999 --> 26:30.498
izinto, ongakaze asebenze emkhosini, ngoku usixelela
ukuba kufuneka ... kunokwenzeka ukuba kuza kubakho

26:30.498 --> 26:33.887
imfuneko, ndingatsho ngononophelo ... Basebenza kuyo.

26:33.887 --> 26:37.900
Oko kuthetha ukuba kufuneka sithethe ngoxolo.
Asifanelanga nje ukuthetha ngoxolo, kufuneka siphile ngalo.

26:37.900 --> 26:42.560
Kwaye ngoku, abantu abaninzi baye
bahlangana, yiloo nto ekufuneka ucinge ngayo.

26:42.560 --> 26:44.520
Kwaye ayisiyonto onokuyicacisa lula; ayinakucingelwa.

26:44.520 --> 26:51.964
Iprojekthi ethi, ngokoluvo lwam, ibe yenye yezona
zinkulu kule minyaka ilishumi idlulileyo: "Uxolo ekugqibeleni

26:51.964 --> 26:56.297
– 100 zabantu abaziwayo" ibonisa isibindi sokuziphatha.

26:56.297 --> 27:03.082
Abantu abaxa banoluvo olwahlukileyo kodwa ke, bephela
ngokulandela umzekelo we "We Are the World", ngelo xesha

27:03.082 --> 27:10.421
yayiyiBand Aid, apho uBob Geldof wahlanganisa zonke iigama
ezinkulu eWembley Stadium – uyazi ngokwakho – iQueen, uDavid

27:10.421 --> 27:15.417
Bowie, babekhona bonke, uGeorge Michael,
wonke umntu wayekhona kuba babenenjongo,

27:15.417 --> 27:18.915
yayimayelana ne-Ethiopia, yokunyusa imali yayo.

27:18.915 --> 27:26.364
Kwaye oku kumalunga noxolo. Kwaye kukho abantu abadumileyo
ababandakanyekayo, ndiza kufunda abambalwa kwizigidi: Sucharit

27:26.364 --> 27:34.306
Bhakdi, Philipp Hopp, Daniele Ganser ukhona, Markus Krall ukhona,
Kayvan Soufi-Siavash (Ken Jebsen), UGqr Michael Nehls, u-Ulrike

27:34.306 --> 27:42.001
Guérot, uNjing. Max Otte, owayesakuba yintshatsheli yehlabathi
yebhola ekhatywayo uThomas Berthold, uGerald Hüther, uRuediger

27:42.001 --> 27:47.973
Dahlke, uLisa Fitz, uMarco Rima, uTom Lausen,
uAndreas Popp, uMarc Friedrich, uHans-Joachim Maaz,

27:47.973 --> 27:51.770
uJürgen Fliege, uUwe Steimle kunye nabanye abaninzi.

27:51.770 --> 27:58.538
Kwaye yile nto inomdla, yokuba sathe, abantu
abahluke ngokupheleleyo bahlanganise abantu.

27:58.538 --> 28:03.173
Andinanto ingako ndiyenzayo ngayo, yenzeke
nje ukuba ipapashwe yindlu yethu yokupapasha.

28:03.173 --> 28:08.796
Kodwa, ndingatsho kuphela, inkulu kakhulu kwaye isihloko
esiphambili siyoyoyika. Iyoyika ngokwenene, ngokwenene.

28:08.796 --> 28:12.296
Kuba abantu bahlala befuna ukwahlula abanye. Lo umelene nalowo.

28:12.296 --> 28:19.985
Kukho umntu ongumYuda, umzekelo, obhala apho, echaza
isizathu sokuba kusafuneka sithethe namaPalestina.

28:19.985 --> 28:27.481
Omnye umntu, umhleli owaziwayo, endingazukukhankanya igama lakhe,
owagxothwayo kumajelo karhulumente, naye uthetha ngeli tyala.

28:27.481 --> 28:32.534
Oogqirha, izazinzulu, abantu bezentengiso
yemasheya – uyazi amagama ambalwa – bonke

28:32.534 --> 28:36.197
bayabandakanyeka. Le nto ngokwenene imalunga noxolo!

28:36.197 --> 28:38.604
Kwaye seso isizathu, ngokoluvo
lwam, le projekthi ibaluleke kakhulu.

28:38.604 --> 28:47.341
Kwaye nabani na onabantwana okanye owaziyo umntu onokubizelwa
enkonzweni yomkhosi kufuneka afunde le ncwadi kuqala.

28:47.341 --> 28:50.254
Uza kuqhwanyaziswa xa ubona indlela abantu abayijonga ngayo apho.

28:50.254 --> 28:53.629
Kwaye ngokwenene sonke kufuneka sime sikunye kweli xesha linzima.

28:53.629 --> 29:00.637
Kodwa njengoko benditshilo, ayizukufumaneka de kube
ngumhla wama-28 kuNovemba. Phambi koko, iseyimfihlo,

29:00.637 --> 29:04.654
endiyityhila ngoku apha. Awuzukuyifumana kwenye indawo.

29:04.654 --> 29:10.053
Nceda ulinde kude kube ngumhla wama-28.
Ifumaneka kwivenkile yeMacht-steuert-Wissen Verlag.

29:10.053 --> 29:15.937
Okanye mhlawumbi nakwabanye abathengisi
abakhulu ukusukela ngoDisemba, ekuqaleni kukaDisemba.

29:15.937 --> 29:22.243
Heiko, ndingathanda ukuvakalisa umbulelo wam onyulu
ngokuthatha ixesha lokusithatha kolu hambo lufutshane,

29:22.243 --> 29:25.487
ukusuka kumcimbi osematheni ukuya kwezi arhente zine.

29:25.487 --> 29:31.219
Ndicinga ukuba siza kuqhubeka. Singaqhubeka
nokuveza izinto; inkqubo yokuvuka ayisenakunqandwa.

29:31.219 --> 29:37.313
Enkosi kakhulu. Ndikunqwenelela impumelelo kuyo
yonke into oyenzayo, namandla amaninzi kuyo yonke into!

29:37.313 --> 29:39.500
Kwaye ndilangazelela ukuphinda sikhangelane kungekudala.

29:39.500 --> 29:43.391
Enkosi kakhulu kwiqela lenu. Enkosi ngokundivumela ukuba
ndibe lapha – nakubabukeli benu. Ndinqwenelela okuhle kuphela!

29:43.391 --> 29:46.006
Enkosi – nawe.

29:46.006 --> 29:51.925
Sifuna ukwazi ukuba abantu abaqhelekileyo
bathini ngale nto. Yeyiphi uluvo lwakho ngale nto? -

29:51.925 --> 29:55.453
Ewe, ndinokuvumelana nawe kuphela.

29:55.453 --> 30:00.923
Ingaba nawe udikwe ziingxelo ezilawulwayo
nezixhaphakileyo? I-Kla.TV – izimele, isimahla

30:00.923 --> 30:03.906
kwaye ayicatshukiswanga! Bhalisa ngoku simahla!