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Kamora matsatsi a mabedi a kgahlehang mona ho Alternative WEF
Prague, Kla.TV jwale e hlahisa kakaretso ya

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dinako tsa bohlokwahadi le dipolelo tse
kgahlang ka ho fetisisa. Le dule le mametse.

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Ke ne ke sa utlwisisa kgutshwafatso ya A-WEF.

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Kamehla ke ne ke nahana hore ke khetho e 'ngoe
ho Fora ea Moruo ea Lefatše ea George Soros.

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Ho lokile, ke se ke lokisitse kamohelo bakeng sa puo ea ka.

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Metsoalle ea ka e ratehang, bao e seng
metsoalle ea ka ba hlomphehang ba George Soros.

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Ke ntho e ntle le e thabisang ho rona hore le kgethile
Prague, motseng oo ke tswaletsweng ho ona, oo ke qetileng

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bophelo bohle ba ka ho ona, e le sebaka sa kopano ya lona.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, sena se bontsha hore Prague e
loketse ketsahalo ena ka nako ena, e leng sesupo sa

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tokoloho e batlang e le teng e ntseng e le teng naheng ya rona.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, e bontša ntho e 'ngoe, e leng khaello
ea tokoloho Jeremane, eo ke e fumanang e le kotsi haholo.

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Sena se a tshwenya, eseng feela
Majeremane, empa le rona mona Czech Republic.

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Ho rona, Jeremane esale e le moahelani oa rona
oa bohlokoahali, oa bohlokoa ka ho fetisisa,

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le e moholo ka ho fetisisa ho theosa le nalane.

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Leha e se kamehla e le ea botsoalle.

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Mabapi le sena, ke nka mohopolo wa lona wa ho saena
polelo-tumellano e kopanetsweng e nang le sehlooho se reng

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"Tsohle bakeng sa Kgotso" mona Prague kajeno e le ntho e ntle –
haholoholo ha ho shejwa ditiragalo tsa selemo

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sena Jeremane kamora dikgetho, le, ka pono ya ka,
Friedrich Merz le boqhekanyetsi ba hae ba ntwa.

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Ketsahalo ea kajeno e lokela ho re fa
mehopolo e mecha le e tiileng eo re ka e kenyang

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tšebetsong mesebetsing ea rona ea lipolotiki.

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Ke le lakaletsa lipuisano tse molemo le tse
hahang, mme ke leboha hape ka memo ea lona le ka ho

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ela hloko maikutlo a ka kajeno. Kea leboha haholo.

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Ha ba tšehetsang 'moputsoa oa lefats'e ba ntse ba phatlalatsa
phatlalatso ea ntoa, ba bua ka ho amoha batho thepa le ho felisa

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tokoloho ea ho bua, re batla ho etsa boiteko bo khethehileng
letsatsing lena ho sireletsa demokerasi, tokoloho le khotso.

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Le lona, bashebelli ba ratehang ba lapeng likereneng tsa
lona le ba leng mona setsing sa likopano, lea tseba hore

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tokoloho le demokerasi ha se lipapali tsa bashebelli feela.

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Tokoloho e tlameha ho sireletsoa, ho e loanela, mme ke
sona seo re tlo se etsa mmoho mona mafelo-bekeng ana.

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Bahlomphehi banna le basali ba teng ka holong mona,
bashebelli ba ratehang ba lapeng ka pel'a li-skrini tsa lona.

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Sechaba sa rona se ile sa kopana nakong
ea boemo ba tšohanyetso ba coronavirus.

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Tlas'a khatello, re ile ra hlokomela sepheo
se tšoanang, re tsoa litseleng tse fapaneng

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haholo, 'me ra kopana bakeng sa sepheo sena.

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Corona e re bontšitse hore na litokelo tsa rona tsa
botho le tsa boahi tse tiisitsoeng li na le boleng bo bokae

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ha ho tluoa tabeng ea ho qobella lenaneo: ha li na letho.

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Leha ho le jwalo, sewa sa coronavirus se boetse se
bontshitse kamoo re matla kateng ha re sebedisana mmoho.

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Mme jwale, qetellong ya 2025, re tobane
le phephetso e ntjha ka ho felletseng.

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Hobane Europe, Europe ho tla ba le ntwa e
nngwe. Bonyane, ke seo re se bolelletsweng.

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Ursula von der Leyen o bua ka
bolokolohi bo boholo ka moruo oa ntoa.

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Mafora a Borithane tlas'a Keir Starmer a ikemisetsa ho
fetoha sechaba se itokiselitseng ntoa le se hlometseng.

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Mme Letona la Tshireletso la Jeremane, Boris Pistorius, o
batla hore naha e be e itokiseditse ntwa ka selemo sa 2029.

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Pale ea semmuso e fetotse tseleng ka ho feletseng.

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Ka tshoganyetso, ntwa le dikgoka, dibetsa le ditanka di
boetse di fetoha pontsho ya boikemisetso ba dipolotiki.

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Le mantsoe a neng a nyatsoa ka mashome a lilemo,
joalo ka 'fatherland', joale a se a boetse a

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sebelisoa, haeba u utloile puo ea Jens Spahn ka Pulungoana.

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Re tlameha ho loana bakeng sa naha ea rona, o re.

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Ke ka lebaka leo o lokelang tshebeletso ya sesole,
ke ka lebaka leo o kenelang mabotho a hlometseng.

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E, mohlomong bakeng sa naha. Empa,
Monghadi Jens Spahn, ha se wena naha.

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Mme ha re na ho ya ntweng bakeng sa Spahn le von der Leyen.

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Mme ha re batle ho thetseha ke folaga e
kgabisitsweng ya EU kapa ho bona naha ya habo rona e tjha.

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Re hana ntwa ka boitelo bohle mme re sa sekamele.

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Ke ka lebaka leo re inehelang lenaneo la
selemo sena la Seboka sa Bobedi sa Alternative

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WEF ho tsepamisa maikutlo potsolotsong e reng:

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Re ka thibela ntoa ho qhoma Europe joang?

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Ke sona seo sehlopha sa pele sa kajeno se buang ka
sona: Nahana ka khotso, phela ka bophelo bo botle.

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Baeti ba rona karolong ena ke lingaka kaofela,
litsebi tsa bongaka tse chesehang, 'me kaofela

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ba buella mokhoa o akaretsang ka holim'a tsohle.

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Hobane bona, jwaloka rona bohle, ba tseba
hantle hore mmele, kelello, moya le matshwao

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a mmele di hokahane ka tsela e sa arohaneng.

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Kaofela ha rona re se re utloile ka sena, empa se bolela'ng ka
tsela e totobetseng bakeng sa bophelo ba rona,

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haholo-holo ha re shebile lilemo le likhoeli tse thata tse
tlang, tseo re bonang li tla tlisa liqholotso tse kholo?

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Joale re ka dula re phetse hantle
jwang kannete dinakong tsena tse thata?

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Bophelo bo botle ha se boemo, empa ke tshebetso e tswelang
pele ya ho theha kutlwano mmeleng, maikutlong le kelellong.

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Mmelesing, re fihlella tekatekano ka phepo e
nepahetseng le boikoetliso bo sa khaotseng.

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Re e theha ka maikutlo ka ho lemoha le ho rarolla likhohlano,
mme re e lemoha kelellong ka ho tseba hore na re bo-mang.

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Meriana ea setso e bona 'mele feela; ha e bone maemo a mang.

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Mme kaha o bona feela mmele, a ka o phekola ka
mekgwa ya nama feela, a tlohele tse ding ka thoko.

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Mme seo se etsa hore meriana e
tlwaelehileng e be le meedi haholo.

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Ha ke khahlanong le meriana ea setso; re e hloka,
empa e na le meeli 'me e hloka ho atolosetsoa haholo.

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Mokhoa oa hau o fapana joang le oa ngaka e tloaelehileng?

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Kgolagano ke hore batho ba lokela ho nkuoa kamehla e le batho ba
feletseng, mme mokgwa wa dilemong tsa moraorao e bile wa bongaka

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bo ntseng bo ipapisitse le makala a qaqileng
haholo, ka makalana a ntseng a honyela a, ha a shejwa

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mmoho, a sa kgone ho utlwisisa motho ka botlalo.

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Mme nna, ehlile, ke bone sena ka ho hlaka hobane ke
qetile bophelo ba ka ba mosebetsi ke le ngaka ya botekgeniki.

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Mme meriana ya setsebi, ehlile, ha e hlahise ditshwantsho tsa
moya kapa kelello, empa e di hlahisa ho tswa ka hare ho mmele,

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mme e dumela hore sena feela se tla e thusa ho fumana sesosa
sa bokudi – e leng ntho, ehlile, e ke keng ya kgonahala ho hang.

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Mme jwale, nahana hore na ke sesebediswa sefe seo haele
hantle e leng sa bohlokwahadi bakeng sa bophelo bo botle?

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Ke boroko. Mme boroko ha se bothata ba 'mele, ebile ha se
tharollo ea 'mele eo 'mele oa rona o fanang ka eona, empa ke

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boroko bo phetseng hantle, bo phomolosang bo qalang kelellong.

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Mme ha ho na le ho se lokang ka hloohong ya rona, moyeng wa
rona, kapa kelellong ya rona, ha ho be le boroko bo kgutsitseng,

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mme bo qobelletswa ka mefuta e meng ya dipilisi tsa kelello.

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Leha ho le jwalo, ena ha se sesebediswa se ka
tiisang kapa sa tsosolosa bophelo bo botle ka ho

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robala dihora tse mmalwa letsatsi le letsatsi.

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Hona joale, motho a le mong ho ba babeli ba
rona o shoela ka lebaka la mekhoa ea bongaka.

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Mme haeba o ka iphapanyetsa seo, mme haele hantle se iphapanyetswa
ka hara dibuka tsohle tse buang ka ho phela nako e telele – e

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mabapi le ho ja hantle, moya o hloekileng – tsohle di bohlokwa.

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Empa haeba u iphapanyetsa bohlokoa ba meriana, e leng ea bohlokoa
hore u lule u phetse hantle nako e telele, joale ho ja lijo

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tse phelisang le litlatsetso tsa phepo ha li na thuso ho hang.

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Nnete ke hore ha o ka botsa batho ba hodileng
ba fetang dilemo tse 100, ba tla re ba jele

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dintho tse fapaneng haholo bophelong bohle ba bona.

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Ba ne ba boetse ba phela maphelo a fapaneng haholo, ba qeta nako
e ngata kantle mme ba ikoetlisa haholo, empa kaofela ha bona ba

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lumellana hore ba ne ba sa fumane tlhokomelo ea bongaka hangata.

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'Mele, kelello, moea – joalokaha ke boletse,
tsena ha se hangata e ba sehlooho se seholo

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merianeng ea sejoale-joale e tloaelehileng.

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Ke kile ka bala polelo e reng: Mokudi ya
folisitsweng ke moreki ya lahlehileng. Ka mantswe a mang,

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mokudi ya folisitsweng ke moreki ya lahlehileng.

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Na ke motheo o ka sehloohong oa
tsamaiso ea rona ea sekolo ea sejoale-joale?

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E, ho lokile. Mme seo o se buang, le seo hape
se seng se boletsoe pele, ke hore re

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sebetsa ka har'a tsamaiso ea tlhokomelo ea bophelo.

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Ha re bang ha ho tluoa tabeng ea
bophelo bo botle, lingaka, joalo-joalo.

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Ke mokhoa oa sechaba oo re o nkang le rona ha re ea ho ba bang.

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Mme ke moo ho bang kotsi teng ha re inehela
matsohong a ba bang, ho kenyeletsa le dingaka, ka

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mohlala. Sena se boetse se pakilwe ka saense.

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Sebui se fetileng o ne a nepile ha a re, joaloka
setho-'moho sa MWGFD, lingaka le tsona ke sesosa sa

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lefu, joalo ka meriana e mengata le litla-morao tsa eona.

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Mme e, ka coronavirus, jwale re se re bone keno-lipakeng eo,
haholoholo bakeng sa batho ba phetseng hantle – le mafu

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a tebileng, ha o qobella phekolo e le nngwe ho bohle –
hore feela ha e sebetse, hore ha e a loka le hore e kotsi.

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Ke hopola motswalle wa ka a mpolella dilemo tse ngata tse
fetileng, ha mora wa hae wa pele a tswalwa, kapa nakong ya

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boimana, a re, 'Ka lebaka la Modimo, ke ne ke sa tsebe hore ho
ima ke ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa e ka etsahalang ho motho.'

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Ke maemo afe a tšosang a hlahisoang ho
batsoali ba bacha le ho ba lebeletseng ngoana?

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Joaloka ngaka, o atleha joang ho kokobetsa tshabo
ya batho maemong ana a itseng le ho ba tataisa

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tseleng e nepahetseng? Na o na le mokgwa wa sephiri?

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E, mohlomong ha se risepe ea sephiri, empa ke
nahana hore ngaka efe kapa efe e tsebang

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boikarabello ba eona ha ea lokela ho sebetsa ka tšabo.

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Mme boimana, ehlile, ke karolo e tlwaelehileng
ka ho feletseng bophelong, eseng bokulo ho hang.

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Mme hape ke bona hore, ka bomadimabe, ho tsa mafu a basadi le
tlhokomelong ya pele ho tswalo, taba ena e totobatswa haholo, e

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le hore ha batswadi ba fihla ba na le tlhahlobo ya boimana, ba
bontshwa diteko tsohle tse teng ho lekola hore na ngwana o na le

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Down's syndrome kapa trisomy efe kapa efe kapa dintho tse jwalo.

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Ba qala ka ho nka hore ha ho na baktheria hang-hang, ebe ho etsoa
liteko tse ngata-ngata, hobane ho ka

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etsahala hore mosali ea moimana a be le lefu la
tsoekere le patiloeng le tse ling joalo-joalo.

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Mme seo ha e le hantle e leng se
tlwaelehileng, se tlwaelehileng, se bewa ka thoko.

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Kahoo ke nahana hore ntho ya bohlokwa ka ho fetisisa
ke ho se tshose basadi ba baimana, empa ho ba bontshe

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hore hangata tsohle di lokile mme di tsamaya hantle.

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Hape ke nahana hore ke ntho e ntle hore bo-'mè ba
bangata ba baimana, joalokaha ke bona hona joale, ba

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khetha mokhoa o fapaneng ka ho feletseng oa ho beleha.

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Ho tloha ka Corona, batho ba ntse ba nahana ka sena. Lefapha la
tsa pelehi ha le a ka la ipabola nakong ea

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Corona ha le ne le khothalletsa hore le basali
ba baimana ba roale limaske nakong ea pelehi.

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Ke e fumane e le mpe haholo, e nyonyeha haholo, ha e le hantle.

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Mosali o hloka hoo e ka bang molekhule e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ea
oksijene bakeng sa hae le ngoana eo a haufi le ho mo beleha.

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Mme jwale o tlameha ho roala maske!
Ka hona basadi ba hlile ba akhehile.

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Mme seo se hlile se behile lebelo le lebe mokgweng ona wa phekolo
e tlwaelehileng, e leng tsa boimana le tswalo, hoo batho ba

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bangata, hona jwale ka lebaka la coronavirus,
ba ntseng ba nahana ka hore na re ka atamela

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boimana le tswalo ka tsela e fapaneng jwang.

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Mme ba bangata hona jwale le bona ba tshepa
baeledi, e leng ntho eo ke nahanang hore e lokile haholo.

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Ba le kelelloanyane dipatlisisong tsa bona.

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Mekgwa ha e sa latelwa ka tieo.

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Bakuli ba phutholohile haholoanyane, ba na le khotso
ka hare, mme jwalo ka ngaka, nka tshehetsa seo feela.

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Ke bona batho ba bangata ba seng ba leka ho belehela bana ba bona
ba le hae, ba thusitsoe ke moeletsi oa masea, kapa setsing sa

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moeletsi oa masea, 'me ke e mong oa lingaka tseo
tse sa bueng letho le khahlanong le seo, empa ho

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e-na le hoo ke khothaletsa bakuli ba ka ho etsa joalo.

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Ke nahana hore haeba bohle re ne re ka latela melao ena, eo
le Jesu a bileng a e thehile, mohlala, hore o tshwanetse ho

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tshwara ba bang kamoo le wena o ka ratang ho tshwarwa kateng.

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Ke seo a se buileng ho hong ho Tshebeletsong Thabeng.

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Etsa ho ba bang kamoo o lakatsang hore ba u etse kateng.

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Mme e se e le taelo ho tloha qalong: o se ke wa bolaya.

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Ke dumela hore sena le sona ke tlhaho ho batho.

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Ke dumela hore motho e mong le e mong o lakatsa kgotso.

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Re hloka feela ho kgutlela ntlheng ya sehlooho. Mme re kanna ra
hloka ho ba sebete ho fetisisa ho hlahisa

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takatso ena ya kgotso, ka ho se dumelle boradipolotiki
ba rona ho bua le ho lora ka ho itokisetsa ntwa.

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Ke mang ea batlang seo? Ke mang ea ruang
molemo ho sona ka tsela efe kapa efe? Re tlameha

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ho ema ka tieo le ho bua khahlanong le sona.

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Maobane sehlopheng sa rona, ha re qala ho nahana ka seo re ka se
etsang ho khothaletsa khotso, re ile ra tla ka mohopolo oa hore

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ha e le hantle ke basali ba bitsoang mona, kapa
hantle-ntle ke basali ba leng sehlohlolo sa puisano

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lapeng ha ho tluoa litabeng tsa bophelo bo botle.

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Bo-'mè ke bahlokomeli ba bophelo bo
botle, bo-'mè ke bahlokomeli ba bophelo.

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Mme ke nahana hore e ka ba mohopolo o motle
hore basadi jwale ba bue ka boomo hore ha

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re batle hore bana ba rona ba nyefele ntweng.

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Ba ka kopana mme ba theha mofuta o itseng wa
sehlopha: "Basadi, Bo-mme, Bo-mme-moholo bakeng sa Kgotso".

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Nka nahana hore e ka ba ntho e ntle haeba seo se ne se ka
khoneha ho pholletsa le Europe, le ho pholletsa le lefatše.

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Hore boradipolotiki, bao ha e le hantle ba laolwang ke maemo a
hodimo a matla, ke mafia ya tjhelete, ha re ka rialo, mme ba

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filweng mosebetsi wa ho qala ntwa ka
ditshenyehelo dife kapa dife, ba lokela ho hananwa

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ka matla. Ha ke bue sena ke bua ka rona batho.

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Haeba bohle re etsa sena mme batho ba bangata ba
se etsa, ke ka nahana hore nako ya bona ya ho

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qholotsa ntwa e ke ke ya atleha jwalo ka ha ba nahana.

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Heiko, o ngotse buka. Bukeng ea hau ea morao-rao, "Game Over –
Karolo ea 2", o ngotse, har'a lintho tse ling: U seo u se jang.

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U hlokomedisitse ka tlhaselo ho microbiome ea rona.

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U nahana hore re lokela ho ja eng kapa ho se
je eng e le hore re lule re phetse hantle?

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Ee, mohlomong tlhaloso e khuts'oane. Microbiome ke eng?

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Ha e le hantle, ena ke sechaba sa likokoana-hloko
tse molemo le tse thusang 'meleng oa motho:

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haholo-holo libaktheria, 'me li fumaneha haholo maleng.

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Kahoo bana ke bathusi ba banyenyane bao re
phelang le bona ka tšebelisano-'moho, ke

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hore, sechabeng se setle, sechaba sa bophelo.

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Ntle le tsona, re ne re ke ke ra phela. Li
pshatla lijo tsa rona 'me li re thusa tšebetsong eo.

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Re na le hoo e ka bang lik'hilograma tse peli tsa
likokoana-hloko tse tsoang kantle ho 'mele tseo re phelang le

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tsona. Ke sona seo, ha re ka rialo, ho bitsoang microbiome.

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Mme tlhaselo e hlile e qala ho yona.

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Microbiome ena, e nang le mefuta-futa e hlollang, e
phetseng hantle – mefuta-futa e phetse hantle – ho

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e hapa ka bo-'na, ho e etsa hore e tšoane kaofela.

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Kahoo, ntho e molemo ka ho fetisisa eo o ka e etsang mabapi le
sena, le hore na re lokela ho ja jwang, ke ho ja dijo tse

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fapaneng, tse mebalabala. Ha se feela dintho tseo tse
tloaelehileng tse tswang suphamaketeng, dijo tse

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tshwanang kgafetsa-kgafetsa, mme ha se kamehla e
le feela seo o se tshepang, empa ke ho fapanyetsa.

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Re ka matlafatsa tlhokomeliso e phetseng hantle joang har'a
sechaba ea hore ba se ke ba amohela

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hang-hang tsohle tse phatlalalitsoeng, empa ho
e-na le hoo ba ithute ho hlahloba ka bo bona?

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Re ka kgothaletsa batho jwang hore ba be
le temoho e tebileng ka bophelo ba bona?

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E, ho na le mohopolo o bileng teng merianeng
nako e telele haholo, empa o atisa ho

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hatelloa hanyane. Ona ke o bitswang ngaka e ka hare.

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Haeba ngaka e se e ntse e nkoa hantle ke sechaba, joale bohle ba
lokela ho tseba hore ba na le ngaka ea bona ea botho, moeletsi

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oa bona ka ho feletseng, ea nang le bona matsatsi a supileng ka
beke, letsatsi le leng le le leng ho tloha hoseng ho isa bosiu.

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O mo hlokomela, mme o mo hlokomela hamolemo ho feta ngaka efe
kapa efe, hobane o ka hare ho yena mme hobane o kopanya mmele le

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kelello hape o lemoha dintlha tse nyenyane tse sa ka ke tsa bonwa
ka diphetho tsa laboratori le mekgwa ya ho nka ditshwantsho.

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Ke dumela hore seo ho tloha qalong se neng se hlakile, jwale se
pakahetswe ke diphuputso tsa mahlale tse 250:

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hore morero wa ho baka kotsi o ne o rerilwe ho
tloha qalong morerong ona wohle wa coronavirus.

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Hantle, joale ho hlakile haholo!

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Re ka fetisetsa molaetsa ho batho joang? Ke potso
ya bohlokwa haholo. Ka nnete, mecha ya

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phatlalatso e na le karolo eo e lokelang ho e bapala mona.

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Seo re ka ratang ho se bona hona joale mabapi le ho
sebetsana le seoa sa coronavirus, ka pono ea ka, se

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ntse se etsahala feela ka tekanyo e nyenyane haholo.

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Kahoo re sa le hole haholo ho fihlela ho se utlwahalang ...

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Ho ntse ho nyatseha leha ho le joalo. Ho ntse ho
nyatseha leha ho le joalo ho batla hore taba ena e sebetsoe.

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E, ehlile, tsohle li ntse li hateletsoe hobane, ka tlhaho, batho
ba pusong e ntse e le ba neng ba le balateli, ba

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neng ba le ka morao ho taba ena kaofela, le ba,
bonyane, ba ileng ba phethahatsa lintho tsena mona.

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Mme, ehlile, ba hana hore liketso
tsa bona tse mpe li hlahlojisisoe.

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Ka lebaka lena, ke dumela hore seo se lokelang
ho hatellwa, ha jwale se ntse se hatellwa feela.

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Empa nka rata ho araba sebui se fetileng.

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Litaba tse monate ka sena sohle ke hore joale re ka
hlokomela hore re hloka ka potlako moriana o mocha.

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Re bona hore ha re sa ntlafatsa ka
tsamaiso ena, le hore re ke ke ra tshepa dingaka.

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Mme ke utlwile haufinyane hore e nngwe ya
dipitso tsa Mokgatlo wa Bongaka wa Austria e ne e le:

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Bophelo bo botle bo qala le ngaka ea hau.

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Mme seo se fosahetse ka ho feletseng, jwalo ka ha
sebui se fetileng, Gerd Reuther, a sa tswa bua.

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Re na le tsamaiso e babatsehang ka hare ho rona e
ikalolang le e iphilisang. Mme ho bohlokoa ho hlokomela sena.

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Mme bophelo bo botle bo qala ka motho ka mong.

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Ke nahana hore seo re neng re lokela ho se ithuta ho tsoa ho
coronavirus ke hore re hloka ho boela re nka boikarabello ba

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bophelo ba rona. Hore ha rea lokela ho tšepa
maemo kapa likobo tse tšoeu ho feta tekano, empa ka

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pele ho tsohle, re itšepe rona le matla a rona.

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Mme ke dumela hore e nngwe ya ditshemo tsa bohlokwahadi
bakeng sa ho phela kalafong ke hore: ka hakaalo ha ho hlokeha,

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ka bobotlana kamoo ho ka kgonehang. Ho fokolang ho molemo.

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Mme polelo ya bohlokwa, primum non nocere, e bolelang hore, pele,
o se ke wa baka kotsi, ke hore, o se ke wa nka

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mehato e bakang kotsi e fetang molemo – ha o ka
kgomarela seo, o ka fihlella dintho tse ngata haholo.

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Ke bona dihlong tse kgolo. Batho ha ba batle ho dumela
hore dingaka tse ngata di bile tseleng e fosahetseng

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ka ho thetswa ke phatlalatso ena ya coronavirus le ente.

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Mme hape ke bona dihlong tsa yona, hobane ba
bangata ba iphumantse ka tjhelete e fetang

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tekanyetso, mme ba bangata ba dumellane le yona.

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E seng lingaka feela, empa le lipetlele, ehlile, hammoho
le ba bang ba bangata ba entseng chelete ka limaske,

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litsi tsa tlhahlobo le tse ling. Le bo-ralipolotiki le bona.

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Ka bomalimabe, bobodu ba
dipolotiki ha se tlolo ya molao Jeremane.

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Ba ntse ba eso ho ngole seo molaong.

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Kaofela re mona, rona ba hananeng le
pale ea mmuso, ra e hanyetsa, joalo-joalo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo re ileng ra hlasela – ke ile ka ahlolwa ke BGA.

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Ak'u nahane u fuoa kahlolo e emisitsoeng ea
selemo se le seng le likhoeli tse leshome

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chankaneng, ka lebaka la ho ngola setifikeiti sa bongaka.

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O tlameha ho utlwisisa seo. Ke qetile dilemo tse
55 ke etsa mosebetsi ona mme ke fane ka

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ditifikeiti tse 80,000. Mme ka tshohanyetso ho fosahetse.

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Joale o ka boela oa thibela moroki oa lieta ho
roka lieta le ho etsa hore e be tlolo ea molao

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e otloang. Kahoo ke tšehiso feela e hlanyang.

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Mme re tlameha feela ho tiisetsa le ho nna re pheta, ka kgotso,
ntle le dikgoka: Tjhe, ho ne ho nepahetse, mme ho tla ba jwalo.

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Rona ba lutseng mona re itokiselitse ho amohela
mathata, ka hoo re kgothaletsa batho ba bang hore

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le bona ba eme mme ba kenelle boitshireletsong.

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Mme ke na le bonnete bo felletseng hore e tla
hola ka lebelo le leholo haholo mme tsohle

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tsena tsa boithabiso li tla putlama haufinyane.

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Jwale ke le kgetha, ka matla a mosebetsi wa ka, ho ba
Letona la Bophelo bo Botle, lona bohle ba dutse teng.

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Ba na le tekanyetso ea libilione tsa liponto, matla a se
nang moeli, 'me ha e le hantle ba ka qala lintho tse e-s'o ka

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li e-ba teng pele. Kahoo ba lokolohile ho iketsetsa liqeto.

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Monghadi Reuther, mohato wa hao wa pele mabapi le ho tiisetsa
bokamoso e ka ba ofe? Hape, tshabo ena ya ntwa e re aparetseng.

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O ne o tla etsa'ng e le mohato oa pele? Kantle ho ho
tlosa Lauterbach, ke hore. Ka lipolotiki, ka lipolotiki.

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Hantle, nka kgutlisa boholo ba tjhelete eo hanghang.

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Ka bokhutšoanyane, hobane sechaba se lumelang hore se hloka
tsamaiso ea tlhokomelo ea bophelo bo botle ke sechaba se kulang.

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Setjhaba se phetseng hantle ha se hloke tsamaiso.

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Hantle, ha e ne e le 'na letona la bophelo bo
botle, nka fetola khothatso. Khothatso e tsoa merianeng.

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Kaofela ha rona re ithutile pathogenesis, e
leng thuto ea mafu. Mme khothatso ke ho kula.

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Ha ke phekola bakuli ba bangata, ke fumana chelete e ngata.

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Sena se tlameha ho fetisetsoa ho tloha
ho pathogenesis ho ea ho salutogenesis.

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Potso ha se hore ke eng se o kula, empa ke hore ke eng
se o phelisang hantle, le se o bolokang o phetse hantle.

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Mme kgothatso e tlameha ho ba ka lehlakoreng lena.

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Ke hloka ho fumana chelete e ngata ha ke
na le bakuli ba bangata ba phetseng hantle.

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Jwalokaha ho ne ho le jwalo China, moo
dingaka di neng di fumana tefo feela ha mokudi a

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phetse hantle, mme di sa fumane tefo ha a kula.

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Joale a ka itšindela kannete.

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E-bang le loketse ntoa, eketsang libetsa, kenyang tšebetsong
tlameho ea ho kena sesoleng le ho phatlalatsa boemo ba tšohanyetso

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– ke seo boradipolotiki ho pholletsa le EU ba se buang.

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Ke ntoa e phatlalalitsoeng. Ka 2029, ntoa e
kopaneng e lebelletsoe ho fetoha ntoa e chesang.

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Ena ke polelo-pele ea Mabotho a Hlometsoeng a
Jeremane, NATO le Letona la Tšireletso la Jeremane.

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Le ha boemo ba tšohanyetso ba coronavirus bo ile ba hlasela
sechaba ka tšohanyetso e kholo, lekhetlong lena ke

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boemo ba tšohanyetso bo phatlalalitsoeng esale
pele mme bo bile le nako e lekaneng ea ho itokisetsa.

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Bakeng sa EU, eona e qetileng lilemo e tsepamisitse maikutlo ho
litaba tsa tlhokomeliso ea khethollo, tekano

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ea bong le tekano ea tlelaemete, joale ka
tšohanyetso e qobelloa ho kena ntoeng ea libetsa.

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Le ka potlako eohle, ho nka lilemo tse 'maloa, 'me lihlomo li
tlameha ho hahuoa pele. Empa ba tsohileng ba arabela joang?

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Mokgatlo wa tokoloho, o fetohileng bohlokoa le ho feta nakong ya
sewa sa coronavirus, o arabela kotsi ena e lebelletsweng jwang?

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Ha re ka iphapanyetsa mmuso, o tshepang ho rua molemo ntweng,
setjhaba ha jwale se arolotswe ka dihlopha tse latelang: ba nkang

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ntwa kgahlanong le Putin e le lebaka le lokileng, kaha ba nahana
hore bona ha ba na ho hloka ho etsa boitelo, ho boga kapa ho shwa

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ntweng. Ba tswelang pele ho hana ntwa ntle le dipehelo, empa ho
bona ntwa e le ntho e sa tshwareheng le e hole haholo le nnete,

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mme ka hona ba dula ba sa nke karolo. Ebe ho na le ba lemohileng
kotsi le nako e khutšoanyane ea boitokisetso ea lilemo tse seng

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kae feela, 'me ba se ba ntse ba etsa
letšolo ka mafolofolo khahlanong le eona, ba

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leka ka matla ho tsosa baahi-'moho le bona.

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Sehlopha sa ho qetela ke se senyenyane ka ho
fetisisa, empa mohlomong ke sona sa bohlokoahali.

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Hobane phetoho e ka tsoa feela ho ba mafolofolo, empa feela
haeba ba atleha ho etsa hore ba sa nkeng karolo ba ba tšehetse.

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Joale na re tla emela ho fihlela ka 2029, ho fihlela
libomo tsa pele li oa 'me bafu ba tlatsa literata?

27:19.314 --> 27:26.868
Na re emele, re tsitsitse joaloka mmutla ka pel'a
noha? Kapa re sebelise nako ena 'me re etse ho hong?

27:26.868 --> 27:33.796
Mme ha re etsa ho hong, potso ya
bohlokwa ke hore: re etsang hantle?

27:33.796 --> 27:41.820
Joale re tla tlameha ho ba sebete le ho feta, re be le matla a
maholo, mme mohlomong re be le mamello e fetang eo re neng re

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e-na le eona nakong ea seoa sa coronavirus, hobane
kotsi ehlile e kholo haholo, moruong, bakeng sa sechaba

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ka kakaretso, empa hape le bakeng sa baratuoa ba rona.

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Mme ke nahana hore ho phahamisa tlhokomediso ka sena ebe re
se fetolela ketso, ketso e sebete, e tlameha ho ba sona sohle.

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O kile wa mpolella puisanong e
fetileng hore jwale ha o sa tshaba ho hang.

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Ka lilemo tse ngata, u bile morupeli le 'muelli ea
sa khathaleng khahlanong le ntoa le bakeng sa khotso.

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Haeba ho jwalo ka ha dibui tse pedi tse fetileng di boletse, na o
nahana hore ho sa ntse ho kgonahala ho tsosa batho motsotsong

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ona, kapa na e mong le e mong ya elellwang kotsi o lokela ho haha
Arkisi ya Noe mme a batle polokeho dilameng tse tlang,

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kapa, jwalo ka ha e mong a boletse, a ithute
Serussia kapa a tlatsa tanka ya hae ya peterole mme a balehe?

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Pele ho tsohle, ke leboha haholo ka memo. Potso ke hore re ka
ithuta eng ho bahanyetsi ba rona, mme ke lumela hore seo re ka

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ithutang sona ho bahanyetsi ba rona – jwalo ka ha re bone ka
COVID-19 – ke hore hang ha re leka ho fihlella mehopolo ya

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batho ka mabaka... Empa ho setjhaba se tshositsweng, re hloleha.

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Kalafo e neng e sebetsa ka ho fetisisa bakeng sa
coronavirus ka nako eo e ne e le likatiba tsa Bergamo feela.

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Seo se sebelitse; batho ba ka se nahana.

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Ebe o tla ka lipalo-palo mme o re, mamelang, sena se le ama, o
mpa o bontsha batho ba phelang ka mechini e ba phedisang, ho

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sa tsotellehe hore na ba tswa kae – batho ba maemong ana a
tshabo ba tla tshwara ntho efe kapa efe eo ba ka e fumanang.

29:12.579 --> 29:18.083
Hape ke mohopolo o ka morao ho dipatlisiso tsa
thuto-setjhaba, hore tshabo e fokotsa haholo monahano.

29:18.083 --> 29:23.560
Kahoo re tlameha ho ipotsa potso ena: ho hlakile hore ha
ho na ea tšehetsang ntoa, empa tšokelo ke hore Putin, a

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iketsetsa, a tla re bolaea kaofela. Re sebetsana le seo joang?

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Mme ke dumela feela hore re lokela ho
hlokomela hore re hloka ho buisana ka maikutlo.

29:30.550 --> 29:35.053
U ka sheba ho Edward Bernays kapa
Gustave Le Bon, The Psychology of Crowds.

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Haeba seo se sa sebetse, ho ne ho ke ke ha e-ba le papatso.

29:38.116 --> 29:41.103
Le rona re ka etsa seo, hobane ke
phello eo le rona re ka e qholotsang.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ke dumelang hore re lokela ho
kenela marabeng a bahanyetsi ba rona ka ho rata seo ba

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batlang ho re rekisetsa sona le ho se toboketsa hape.

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Sena se tla halefisa batho ba bang, empa sepheo ke sona seo.

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U ka theha letsholo la bohata la Bundeswehr, leo hape o ka le
manamang ka pele ho matlo a masole, le bontshang bana ba

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apere junifomo ya masole ba tshwere sebetsa se tlatsitsweng,
mohlala, ka mongolo o reng 'boitlhakiso bo etsa setsebi'.

30:09.481 --> 30:13.373
Kapa masole a Bundeswehr: "Joale e
se e le batlōli ba molao ba ntoa."

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Dipale tse jwalo. O ka boela wa fetola letsholo le
neng le tsamaiswa nakong ya sewa sa coronavirus.

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Baetsi ba bangata ba lihlahisoa ba fetotse matšoao a bona.

30:24.560 --> 30:27.795
Ke hopotsoa McDonald's: Entela, ke rata eona.

30:27.795 --> 30:31.141
Mme ka tsela eo feela, McDonald's
e ipatile: Kill, ke e rata haholo.

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Le likereke: ente ke lerato. Nkela sefapano
sebaka ka liqhomane tse peli, bohle ba apere junifomo

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ha ba nka Selallo: joale bolaea. Ntoa e molemo.

30:39.772 --> 30:46.146
Kapa papatso ea Hornbach: masole a cheka
mabitla a kopaneng – ebe o e etsa morero oa hau.

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Ruri ke karolo ya yona. Ke dumela kannete hore batho ba
bangata ha ba na tsebo feela ya hore na ntwa e bolelang.

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Batho ba bangata, haholoholo bacha, hona
joale ba tseba ntoa feela ho tsoa thelevisheneng.

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Ebe ho na le bahale ba ntoa le lifilimi tse kholo tsa
ntoa, eo qetellong a fumanang morwetsana, kapa eng kapa eng.

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Kahoo ntoa e bontšoa ka tsela e fapaneng haholo moo.

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Mme ke dumela kannete hore ho bohlokwa haholo ho
tsebisa batho ka sebopeho sa nnete, sa tshabehang

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sa ntwa, le hore sena se lokela ho ba tsitsinya.

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Empa hoo ho le hooe ho ke ke ha ba tharollo, hobane ke yona
hantle bothata boo ke buileng ka bona pejana: ha o ka

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tshosa motho feela mme wa etsa hore a ikutlwe hampe le
ho feta kamoo a seng a ikutlwa kateng, o tla ipolaea.

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Ka 'nete, haeba a se na moo a ka itšutlisang teng, haeba a se na
motho eo a ka buang le eena, sechaba, kapa motho ea ka reng, 'Ha

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re batle mekhoa ea ho tsoa le litharollo hammoho,' joale o
molaela a le mong feela le linako tsena tsa tšohanyetso le

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litšoantšo tse tšosang, le tšabo ena eo o e kenyang ka har'a hae
hape, 'me ke nahana hore o ikutloa a hloka matla le ho feta.

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Ehlile, re ithutile ka liketsahalo tse ngata tsa kelello nakong
ea seoa sa coronavirus, moo ho boletsoeng Le Bon le ba bang.

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Kaofela ha rona re ne re ipotsa hore na ho etsahetse'ng kannete.

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Mme ntlheng ena, ke dumela hore re se re bohlale
haholwanyane ka mokgwa oo re ka arabang ka ona tlhaselo e

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latelang ya mmuso, e le hore re se ke ra boela ra hlekefelwa.

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Mme se neng se ntlhaba haholo ntlheng ena ke hore le ba nkoang
ba le ka lehlakoreng le nepahetseng ba laolwa haholo ke tshabo.

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Batho ba bang ba ne ba tšaba ho entoa khahlanong
le COVID-19, ha ba bang bona ba tšaba ho amohuoa

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tokoloho ea bona. Qetellong, e ne e le tšabo feela.

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Mme jwale ke taba e tshwanang hape: ba bang ba
tshaba hore ntwa e ka qhoma, ba bang ba tshaba Marussia.

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Ka hona, ho boetse ho na le litšabo
tse fapaneng ka mahlakoreng ka bobeli.

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Mme kamehla ke fumana hore tshabo ke motsamaisi ya mobe.

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Seo se bolela hore pele, nka rata ho
kgothaletsa batho hore ba se ke ba ba kgahlanong le ho

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hong, empa ho ena le hoo ba be bakeng sa ho hong.

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Mme seo se bolela hore ho lwantsha bofuma ke
mohopolo wa bothoto, hobane o lebelletswe

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ho etsang? O lwantshe batho ba futsanehileng?

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Joale ho ka ba molemo ho tsepamisa maikutlo
hodima leruo ho fapana le ho lwantsha bofuma.

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Mme haeba o batla kgotso, ha o a lokela ho
sebeletsa ntwa, empa o sebeletsetse kgotso.

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Mme ka mora moo motho o lokela ho sheba hore na ha e le hantle
ho ikgetha ka eng, le hore na seriti sa botho se tswa hokae.

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Re bopilwe ke Modimo; re na le seriti sa botho.

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Mme seriti sena sa botho ha se ntho e sa tshwareheng; motho e
mong le e mong o bohlokwa ebile o na le boleng, ho

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kenyeletsa le ya nkoang e le mohanyetsi, ka ho lekana le
motswalle ya nkoang a dula a le ka lehlakoreng la ka.

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Boipelaetso ba lenyalo ke tsela e bonolo haholo ea
ho hlahisa maikutlo, ho boloka sesole kaofela se

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phathahane, ho phahamisa lipalo-palo le ho hlakisa hore:

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Re ba sehlopheng se le seng sa lilemo. Mme re lula re
bua ka bahlankana ba ka bang 500,000 ba ekeletsoang

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selemo se seng le se seng e le nama ea k'hanyane e ncha.

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Haeba kotara ea batho e ne e ka re feela, "Le amohelehile ho
bapala ntoa, empa 'na ke tloha mona. Le ka nkenya

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fekthering e meng ea ho lokisa lijo ha le rata, empa
le se ke la lebella hore ke be mola oa pele le lona."

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Eo ke polelo e matla, mme e bontsha hore baahi ba ka
etsa phapang ya nnete, hobane ka tlhaho e etsa kgahlamelo –

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etswe ntwa ntle le masole e batla e le thata ho e lwana.

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U itse mecha ea phatlalatso e tloaelehileng, empa
joale ke e bitsa mecha ea phatlalatso ea 'muso.

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Ena ke maemo a lefifalitsoeng ke tšōmo ea lekala la bone la
boralitaba, ke pale ea hore boralitaba bo

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ikemetse, hore bo ka ba bo sa nkeng lehlakore, ke tšōmo ea
tšebeletso ea phatlalatso eo e leng ea rōna bohle.

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Ke sa tsoa ngola buka ka taba ena:
Staatsfunk (Phatlalatso ea Naha).

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Mohlomong sena ha se hloke ho boleloa, empa mmuso o boetse o
na le tšusumetso holim'a mecha ea phatlalatso ea likhoebo.

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Re na le mamati a potolohang a etsang hore bahlophisi ba ka
sehloohong ba fetele ho ba babuelli ba mmuso, mme basebetsi-'moho

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le bona ba fetele ho ba babuelli ba Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

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Re na le dithuso tsa ditjhelete, tse tobileng le tse sa tobang.
Re na le matsholo a papatso, re na le ditshebeletso tsa sephiri

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tse nang le maemedi a tsona ofising e nngwe le e
nngwe e kgolo ya bahlophisi, batho ba tsona ba

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etsang bonnete ba hore dipale tse itseng di a hatellwa.

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Re na le metjhini ea phatlalatso e fanang ka mantsoe le basebetsi
ba itokiselitseng le ba emetseng lipuisano tse loketseng.

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Kahoo ha re na boralitaba bo ikemetseng, e leng se
bolelang hore ha rea lokela ho tšepa hore re fumana litaba

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mona, hore re fumana ho hong mona ho ka nyatsang lipolotiki.

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Joale batho ba hloka eng, ba ka hloka eng hore ba eme ka manganga
kgahlanong le ho hloka toka le bakeng sa kgotso le tokoloho?

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Mme qeto ya pele ho tswa ho sena e ka ba hore ho ka
ntshuwa mehato ya nako e telele le mehato ya hanghang.

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Ha nako e ntse e ea, seo se batla se tšoana le ho haha meaho ea
moea. Ehlile, ha nako e ntse e ea, re tla boela re tlameha ho

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sebetsana le tsamaiso ea tlhokomelo ea bophelo ka tsela e
pharaletseng le ho e hlophisa bocha, joalokaha ho

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ile ha buisanwa kopanong e fetileng, e le hore e
isetse batho bophelong bo botle le ho ba matlafatsa.

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Thutong ea kelello, tlhokomelo e 'nile ea shebana haholo le
maikutlo a batho, kapa taba ea hore ba fokola kelellong, ha ba na

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matla, ha ba ikutloe ba na le katleho, 'me ba na le maqeba a
mangata a ka hare a tsoang bongoaneng kapa

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sekolong, a seng a ba bolella hore ba mamele, ba be
molemo, ba se ke ba ema, ba se ke ba hanyetsa.

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Kahoo, qalo e tla tlameha ho ba ho tsosolosa matla a ka hare a
batho, ho ba matlafatsa ka hare, ho ba aha tsamaisong ea likolo

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le ho ba fa boitšepo ba bokhoni, tsamaisong ea bophelo bo botle e
shebaneng haholo le kelello le ho hlompha boemo ba

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kelello ba batho. Ka nako eo, sechaba ka bosona se
tla ba matla haholoanyane le ho ba se nang mekoka.

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Motho e mong le e mong ke karolo e le 'ngoe
feela, karolo e le 'ngoe feela ea sechaba.

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Jwale ho tjena: ho na le bana ba bangata ba banyenyane ba
lemetseng maikutlo, ba tshohile, mme ba ngangisana hara

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bona, ka dinako tse ding jwaloka sekolong sa bana ba
banyenyane, eseng jwaloka setjhabeng sa batho ba baholo.

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Kahoo o ne o tla tlameha ho qala ka matla haholo. Ke sona
seo ke se fumaneng se thabisa haholo ka taba ena kaofela.

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O tlameha ho e batla. Bana ke bona
ba o bontshitseng hore ba e batla.

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Mme jwale ba tlameha ho e etsa kannete. Mme ho na
le lekhalo le leholo pakeng tsa tsona tse pedi.

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Kahoo o tlameha ho ba nolofaletsa
taba ka hohle kamoo ho ka khonehang.

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Kahoo o tlameha ho ba bolella, ho lokile, hore ho na le websaete,
mohlala, ingolise, kapa re na le sebopeho sa hona mona, kapa

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tloong pontšong, mohlala, Moqebelo o mong le
o mong oa pele oa khoeli ka pele ho

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Federal Chancellery e Vienna, joalo ka ha re etsa.

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Empa e tla sebetsa feela haeba re etsa kotsi hore e
tshwarehe le ho bonahala, jwalo ka ha Kayvan a buile hantle, ebe

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re bolella batho, "Hantle, jwale etsang ho hong ka yona."

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Ebe re iphumana re sitisitswe hobane mecha ya
phatlalatso e re potapotile mme re re, thusang, thusang, jwale

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lebitso la ka le senngwa, jwale ke tlameha ho kgaotsa.

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Kapa ke tsebahala haholo toropong ea heso, 'me joale kea tlohela.

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Ho lokile he, ke leboha haholo, u motšehetsi oa ntoa.

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Re hloka ho hlakisetsa batho hore seo re se
etsang, leha ho bolela ho iponahatsa

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literateng, le sona ha se bonolo ho batho ka bomong.

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Mme ha ho monate ka kutlwisiso ya mantlha hore re tshwenya ba sa
tswetseng Corona feela, ba sa tswetseng morero wa phalliso ya

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batho wa 2015 feela, ba sa tswetseng ho putlama ha
dibanka ka 2008 feela, empa hape ba rera Ntwa ya

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Boraro ya Lefatshe. Mme ha ba a lokela ho bapallwa.

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Mme ha o ka ba tshwenya, o lokela ho tseba esale
pele hore o tlameha ho itokisetsa ho lefa theko.

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Mme ha o sekaseka tselana ena ya kgatello ho
tloha ho "se tlang pele" ho ya ho "nka kenya

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letsoho jwang" le "ke ikemiseditse ho lefa bokae"

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Ah, hoo hoa kgathatsa, ah, hoo ho ka ba kotsi, ah, moahisani a ka
tla ho nna mme a mpotsa hore ke etsang boipelaetsong kapa ke

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etsang qosong, jwale ke tlameha ho itokisetsa seo esale pele, mme
jwale re tlameha ho hlaka hore ntwa ena ya kgotso – mme jwale,

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ehlile, ho ba metlae ho "lwana" bakeng sa kgotso – boitlamo bona
ba khotso – bo tla thibeloa ke ba-globalist

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ba sebelisa mekhoa eohle eo ba nang le
eona, hobane ba batla Ntoa ea Boraro ea Lefatše.

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Hobaneng o sa ee sethaleng sa bohata se nang le
setho sa maiketsetso moo o ka itlhahlobisang?

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Kahoo ho na le mekgwa e mengata ya ho tsosa batho,
empa hore ba se ke ba ba le pelaelo e feteletseng.

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Ke ile ka ipotsa hore na ke hobaneng ha ho etsahetse
ho fokolang hakaalo literateng lilemong tsa morao

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tjena, leha barupeli ba bangata le bona ba fana ka lipuo.

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Mme ka nna ka hlokomela hore rona, ba fanang ka
dipuo, ka di-PowerPoint tse ngata jwalo-jwalo,

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qetellong re sebeletsa feela sebopeho sa sekolo.

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Ho na le batho ba lutseng ka tlase, mme kaholimo
ho na le sebui se hloahloa mosebetsing oa sona,

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se buang ka bokhabane ebile se itokisitse hantle.

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Ka tlase ho lula batho ba opelelang, ba reng o
nepile haholo, empa ba dula ba sa nke karolo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ke ileng ka re, ho lokile, ha ke sa ka ke ka
fana ka lipuo tse tjena, hobane ha se hore batho ha ba tsebe.

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Kahoo ha se hore batho ba ne ba sa tsebe ka eona.

39:44.474 --> 39:49.275
Re na le Radio London e ngata. Empa
re etsa joang hore batho ba nke khato?

39:49.275 --> 39:53.456
Mme re tlameha ho hlokomela hore bohle re fetile tsamaisong ya
sekolo, ho tloha sekolong sa bana ba

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banyenyane ho isa ho ... mme ra ithuta moo lenane lena
la mesebetsi le sa bonahaleng, e leng kutlo.

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Re rutilwe ka tieo haholo mme re nka sena e le
tsoelo-pele. Ke dula ke re ena ke "tsoelo-pele e feteletseng".

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Kahoo re mamela, mme ka kutlo ya rona e kgolo re fumana moputso.
Mme ba neng ba mamela ka ho fetisisa ba fetoha baithuti ba

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rona ba mohlala, ho tloha ho Büx ho isa ho Ursula von der Leyen.

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Ha baa ka ba oela feela lifateng, ba ile ba etswa ba le jwalo.

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Mme e le hore re ka kgutlisetsa batho maphelong a bona a nnete,
kaha ba ne ba tshwana le bana ba dilemo tse

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tharo kapa tse nne ba neng ba hatakela maoto,
ka re, ho lokile, ke tla tlisa batho sethaleng.

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Ke tlisa batho sethaleng ba kileng ba kenya polelo
ka har'a lebokose la likarete, e ka bang mofuta o

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itseng oa poleloana e pheta-phetoang, kapa tšabo.

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Ebe ba kena sethaleng mme ba bua ka
bona ka pel'a batho ba 2, 3, 4, 500.

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Mme ka nako eo le tshitiso ya dihlong e a fela, hobane batho ba
bangata ba bua ka dintho, mohlala nakong ya

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sewa sa coronavirus, kamoo ba ileng ba hlabiswa
dihlong, le kamoo ba ileng ba senyeha kateng.

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Mme yaba ba hlokomela har'a bamamedi hore ha ho na
motho ya etsang hampe, empa ho ena le meko e matla

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haholo hobane batho ba iteta sefuba ho etsa sena.

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Mme bohle ba ka ipona paleng tsena.

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Re hloka mohopolo o hlakileng oa hore na ha e le hantle re
batla ho ea kae, 'me mohopolo ona oa hore na re batla ho ea kae,

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hape, o bonolo haholo: rata moahelani oa hau joalokaha u ithata!

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Mme haeba rona re le sechaba re ka kgona ho tshwarana ka
tekatekano le ho tsosolosa motheo oo, hobane o

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ne o lahlehile, jwale re na le monyetla wa ho
nahana ka bokamoso boo re bo batlang bakeng sa rona.

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Ho re feela, e, ha ke batle ho kula, ha ke
batle hore ho be le ntoa, ebile ha ke batle ho ba

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futsanehile, ha se pono, ke tšepo e lerootho.

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Mme ke sona seo tsohle di leng ka sona, ke nahana: sa pele, ho
tseba hore na ke hobaneng ke etsa sena sohle, hore na ha e le

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hantle ke batla ho ya kae, ke le motho ka mong le jwalo ka
setjhaba; sa bobedi, ho elellwa hore nna ka bonna ke na le

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bokgoni mme ke hloka feela ho e etsa, ho sa tsotellehe
hore na jwang, hobane seo ha se a tlameha ho rerelwa

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esale pele – rona batho re na le boqapi bo makatsang haholo.

41:47.127 --> 41:53.031
E-ea lebenkeleng le leholo la mabenkele kapa lebenkeleng la
meriana 'me u shebe lintho tsohle tseo batho

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ba li qapileng – lebenkele la theknoloji,
ruri hoa hlolla seo rona batho re ka se etsang!

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Mme ha re fumane letho leo re ka le etsang ka ntho e
tloaelehileng joalo ka ntoa e sebelisang mekhoa ea khale-khale.

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Ha e-s'o ka e tšoana le setšoantšo se sehiloeng pampiring; e
sehiloeng ka bofokoli 'me e bile lepa le le

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leng la lehong ka lilemo tse makholo, moo re
lulang re phetelletsoa bofofu bo tšoanang khafetsa.

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Hona joale ho se ho lekane ruri!

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Hantle, ke dumela kannete hore WEF e nngwe e ka
sebediswa hantle le mona, le hore re lokela ho

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kopanya matla le ho theha mekgatlo e pharaletseng.

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Ha marangrang ao re a ahang a ntse a atoloha, le lihlopha tsa
tšebelisano-'moho li ntse li hola, ho ntse ho ba thata le ho feta

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ho shebana ka ho toba le ho fumana le ho hlasela mang kapa mang.

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Mme ke dumela hore ke feela haeba re ka atleha ho
tobana le ba mmalwa bana, ba hlophisitsweng hantle

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haholo, ka pososelo, moo kganyetso e tla ba monate.

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Ho seng jwalo, ho dula ho tshwana le ho ba le
thipa mahareng a meno, mme hoo ha ho sa thabisa.

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Re hloka ho bona hore na khanyetso khahlanong le sehlopha sena se
senyenyane e ka etswa jwang hore e be monate, e le

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hore le moloko o tlang o kenelle, hobane ha ba
bohlale ho feta rona, ba hlophisehile hantle feela.

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Mme ke moo re leng teng ha re qala ho haha
meaho; e tsitsitse ho feta seo motho a ka se

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fihlelang a le mong. Mme ke eona bokamoso.

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U baleha jwang kgatello e o emetseng?

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Kayvan o e akarelitse hantle haholo. Taba ke ho
atamela lintho ka boiketlo le pososelo sefahlehong sa hao,

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eseng ka boikemisetso le tšabo, empa ka tšepo ho Molimo.

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Ho ntse ho tshwana le ho nna. Ke atamela sena
ntle le tshabo. Ke mpa feela ke tseba hore ke

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na le mosebetsi ona oo ke lokelang ho o etsa.

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Ke tlameha ho etsa sena. Ke tseba hore na lehlakore le leng le
sebetsa joang. Ke bile le maiphihlelo a sena sohle ka matla.

43:43.342 --> 43:49.113
Liakhaonto tse kae li koetsoe bakeng sa ka ke
Hamburger Sparkasse, Apotheker- und Ärztebank?

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Ba tla ho wena mme ba re, Monghadi Böning, ha
re na letho le kgahlanong le maikutlo a hao a

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dipolotiki, empa ka kopo, batla banka e nngwe.

43:55.585 --> 44:00.842
Mme kaofela ba etsa jwalo ka ho latellana. Ebe ho latela
Volksbank Lüneburger Heide, e reng salang hantle, le

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Sparkasse Hamburg-Buxtehude, tjhe, ha ho sa tla re sebetsa.

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Ebe ho tla mofani oa litšebeletso tsa tefo joalo ka
PayPal 'me ha e-ba eka ka mor'a hora o re, che, eseng le lona.

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Kapa Stripe e fumana mohala o tsoang ho moqolotsi oa litaba oa
ARD ka Labohlano mantsiboea—na ua tseba hore na

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ke mofuta ofe oa motho eo?—ebe ka tšohanyetso
ak'haonte ea ka e thibetsoe ka Moqebelo hoseng.

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Kahoo, seo o lokelang ho se utlwisisa feela ke hore
ho tlwaelehile haholo hore ke thibelwe mecheng ya

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setjhaba le hore phihlello ya ka e be lekanyeditswe.

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Tokoloho ea ho bua e hole le tokoloho ea ho
fihlela; seo esale e le mokhoa o tloaelehileng.

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Re hloka tsamaiso e lokileng ea
lichelete bakeng sa bokamoso bo lokolohileng.

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Sistimi e busang ea lichelete, eo bohle re e tsebang e le chelete
ea fiat, e iponahatsa joaloka 'mankhane oa lefatše oo, ka pono

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ea rona, hoo e ka bang mebuso eohle e leng tlas'a mohau oa oona.

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Matla a laolwa ke ba seng bakae ba kgethilweng, mme ditsebi tsena
tsa nnete tsa tjhelete ka tlhaho le tsona di sebedisa matla.

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Lechelete la kajeno le etswa le le siyo ka ho tobetsa konopo
feela, mme eseng feela hore ha le na tshehetso, empa tsamaiso

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ya rona e boetse e imetswe ke tswala e ntseng e eketseha.

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Sephetho sa sena, ehlile, ke meharo e sa laoleheng ea ho batla ho
fumana ho hongata le ho hongata, 'me joale, neng kapa neng ha

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tsamaiso ena e fihla pheletsong ea eona e reriloeng esale pele, e
hloka ho qaloa bocha lilemo tse mashome a seng makae ka

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seng, e leng seo hona joale re se phelang, kapa ho
e-na le hoo, re qobelloang ho se phela, e le Great Reset.

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Batho ba bangata ka tlhaho ba bona tsamaiso ena ea lichelete e le
motso oa bobe bohle, ebang ke ho putlama ha boleng ba chelete,

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bofuma, tlala kapa ntoa. Haeba ntho e 'ngoe le e
'ngoe e ne e se e reretsoe kholo e sa feleng, mathata

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a mangata a mehla ea rona a ne a ke ke a hlokahala.

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Selemong se fetileng, re ile ra buisana ka
litharollo tse ka bang teng sehlopheng sa rona sa tsamaiso

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ea lichelete, 'me ehlile bohle ba ne ba lumellana.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, mmuso o tlameha ho fokotsa tshebetso, o
tlohele mokgwa wa ho nka batho e le bana le ho tsepamisa maikutlo

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mesebetsing ya ona ya mantlha. Ka lehlakoreng le leng
hape, tsamaiso ya ditjhelete e tlameha ho ba le toka e

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lekaneng haholoanyane, mme, ehlile, e be le toka e pharaletseng.

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Ka hodima tsohle, ho tlameha ho be le taolo e hlakileng e le hore
chelete e se ke ea hatisoa feela ka thato e

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itseng ka mokhoa o bakang ho putlama ha boleng ba
chelete, joalokaha ho ntse ho etsahala hona joale.

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Hantle, selemong sena re batla ho hlakisa le
ho feta, hobane ke ba ka bonang moeli o

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hlakileng feela ba ka laolang tsela e eang moo.

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Mme re labalabela ho bona hore na re ka fumana kutloano
tabeng ena hara sehlopha sa rona sa litsebi tsa moruo.

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Hantle, ke tjhelete e sebetsang ntle le tswala, hobane
tswala ke bothata boo kajeno bo seng bo sa bonwe e le bothata.

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Tswala ke bothata hobane e hola ka potlako e fetang tekano.

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Motho e mong le e mong o tseba ka tswala e kopaneng
sekolong; ke tshebetso e ntseng e hola ka potlako.

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Kahoo e qala butle, e ntse e phahama
haholoanyane, ho fihlela e sa fele.

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Mme tswala ena e eketsehang hodima chelete
tsamaisong ya ditjhelete e qobella moruo kaofela

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ho hola ka lebelo le ntseng le eketseha haholo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo re hlokang kholo e sa khaotseng ea moruo.

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Kahoo, hore sistimi ea rona e lule e tsitsitse, e hloka
bonyane kholo ea moruo ea 3% selemo se seng le se

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seng, ho seng joalo e tla putlama haufinyane kapa hamorao.

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Mme ke hobane re dula re tlameha ho
lelekisa diphesente tsena tsa tswala.

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Ka hona, sekhahla sena sa tshepehelo se etsa hore
boleng ba matlotlo a ditjhelete bo phahame le ho feta.

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Hape di etsa hore mafutsana a futsanehe
le ho feta mme barui ba ruele le ho feta.

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Motho ea ruileng o na le chelete e ngata feela, eo a e
alimang ka tsoala, ebe o ba morui le ho feta ka lebaka leo, 'me

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sechaba se setse se tlameha ho lefa litšenyehelo tsa hona.

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Ka hona, ka lebaka la tsoala, chelete e fetisetsoa ka bo eona
ho tloha ho matšoele-tšoele ho ea matsohong a batho ba fokolang

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le ho fokola. Eo ke bothata ba motheo ka tsamaiso ea lichelete.

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Che, re bone litlamorao tse tšabehang tsa ho
putlama ha boleng ba chelete nalaneng kaofela.

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Ho boletsoe lilemo tsa bo-1920, mme ke 'nete ruri hore ntoa e
'ngoe le e 'ngoe, ho putlama ho hong le ho hong ho hoholo ha

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'muso o moholo, kamehla ho bakoa ke ho se tsitseng ha chelete.

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Sena se bolela hore neng kapa neng ha chelete e ne e se tsitsitse,
ho ne ho qhoma dintwa mme mebuso e meholo ya putlama, hobane

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batho ba ne ba batla ho khelosa tlhokomelo boqhekanyetsong.

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O ne o tlameha ho faposa tlhokomelo ho tloha bomenemeneng. Haeba
ke se ke sa khone ho lefa, joale ke tlameha ho bua 'nete ebe ke

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bolella batho hore ke ba thetsitse – e leng ntho eo
boradipolotiki ba sa batleng ho e etsa ho hang – kapa o bopa

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ketsahalo e mpe le ho feta ebe o re, ee, ho etsahetse
feela ka tsela eo. Motho e mong le e mong oa tseba... ha se 'na.

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Mme ha e le hantle, ke yona bothata, ke ka lebaka leo re
reng ha re sa lokela ho dumella keketseho ena ya ditheko.

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Nka o kgothaletsa ho etsa phapang e hlakileng
pakeng tsa phepelo ya tjhelete, kgolo ya

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phepelo ya tjhelete le ho putlama ha ditjhelete.

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Mme ha re beha sena moemelong wa meputso ya batho, re bona hore
mosebeletsi wa karolelano Jeremane kajeno o tlameha ho

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sebetsa makgetlo a supileng ho feta ho fumana aonse
ya kgauta, ho feta kamoo ho neng ho le kateng ka 1999.

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Mme ke sona hantle seo Eike Hamer a seng a se hlalositse. Hona ke
seo ho thoeng ke phello ea Cantillon, moo baamoheli ba

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pele ba chelete e sa tsoa etsoa ba ruang molemo hobane ba
khona ho reka ka litheko tse ntle tse ntseng li le teng.

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Ebe ho kena chelete e ngata le ho feta 'marakeng, e ba le
tšusumetso tlhokong, litheko lia nyoloha, 'me qetellong, meputso

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ea batho ba penshene, basebetsi le joalo-joalo e nyoloha pele.

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Mme ke yona hantle phello ya kabo botjha e fihlellwang.

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Na re hloka tekanyetso ea khauta hona joale kapa
che? Na e molemo, na e mpe, kapa eng kapa eng?

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Puisano ena ha e re ise kae kapa kae. E mpa e tebisa karohano
har'a litsebi. Ho e-na le hoo, re hloka feela ho theha tsamaiso

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ea lichelete e hlapanyeng hape le tšebetso ea sebele ea batho.

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Mme potso ke hore, re ka e phetha jwang hona
jwale, kapa re batla ho e fetola ka nqa efe? Re

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tlameha le ho etsa hore batho ba dumellane le seo.

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Kahoo le haeba litsebi tsa moruo li lumellana hore ena e kanna ea
e-ba tsela e tloaelehileng e nepahetseng, re tlameha

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hape ho etsa hore batho ba lumellane le rona! Empa
batho bona ba iphumanang le boemo bo joang ha e le hantle?

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Ba mpa feela ba iponela ho theoha ha maemo a bona a
bophelo, ba iponela ho nyoloha ha litheko, 'me

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morwalo oa likoloto o ntse o ba imela ka ho eketsehileng.

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Tshimolohong ya selemo sena, Moprofesa
Raffelhüschen o qotsitse palo e ileng ya ntlotsa hlooho.

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Ho ya ka Prof. Raffelhüschen, sekoloto sa naha sa
sebele sa Jeremane ke €17.3 trillion, e leng ho feta

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sekoloto sa naha sa semmuso ka makgetlo a mangata.

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Ehlile, ho boetse ho na le sekoloto sa naha se seng semmuso,
meputso ea penshene ea basebeletsi ba mmuso e sa lefelloeng ka

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matlole a motheo, libalense tsa TARGET2,
litekanyetso tsa sephiring tse kang ESM, ESF le eng kapa eng

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eo liphutheloana tsa pholoso li bitsoang ka eona.

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Jwale re ntse re na le maruo a mangata a kgethehileng.

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Kahoo tsamaiso ena eo re nang le eona hona joale – ke nahana hore
bohle rea lumellana – e tla qetella e putlamme ka ho feletseng.

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Hobane re tla hloka kholo ea moruo oa lefatše ka bophara ea
liperesente tse 10 ho isa ho tse 15 lichabeng

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tsohle ka lilemo tse 50 tse tlang e le hore re
be le monyetla o haufi-ufi oa ho lefa sekoloto.

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Mme le seo ha se morero wa mebuso, ho lefa sekoloto sa
naha ka nako e nngwe; ho ena le hoo, ho etsahala se fapaneng.

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Mme haeba jwale re leba phetohong ya tjhelete, ntlafatsong ya
yona le tse jwalo, e leng ntho eo ke e nkang e ka

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etsahala haholo, re tlameha feela ho hopola ho ya ka
nalane hore seo batho bohle ba se nahanang ha se nnete:

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Ke tšepa hore ho tla ba le ntlafatso ea chelete
haufinyane, ebe ke tla lokoloha mekheleng ea ka.

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Ho fapaneng le hoo ke nnete. Re na le melao ea tlhahlobo bocha ea
likoloto, ke hore, taba ea phaello ea

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likhakanyo tsa mekitlane ea matlo le taba ea
lekhetho la phaello ea likhakanyo tsa mekitlane.

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Hoo e ka ba liphesente tse 50 hobane thepa e
fetoloa ka tsela e fapaneng le boleng ba chelete feela.

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Mme ehlile sena ha se ame mmuso le dibanka, empa se
sebediswa ka tsela ena ho dikhamphani le ho rona baahi.

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Melao e ntse e sebetsa, mme tsena ha e le hantle ke litaba
tsa sehlooho ho 'na lekaleng la litsamaiso tsa lichelete,

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tseo le rona re lokelang ho li sebetsana le tsona hona joale.

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Mme hore na re tla fumana tjhelete e nang le tekanyetso ya kgauta
kapa e se nang yona... Mohlomong re tla boela re hlahisa

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tekanyetso ya kgauta e tenyetsehang, e bolelang hore
ke karolo e itseng feela ya phepelo ya tjhelete ya

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lefatshe e tsheheditsweng ke matlotlo a tshwarehang.

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Hore na ke khauta, silevera kapa ntho e 'ngoe ho sa ntse ho tla
bonahala, empa ke lumela ka tieo hore re hloka mofuta o itseng oa

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khokahano e re hokahanyang le tšebetso ea 'nete ea
moruo, hape re tlameha ho tloha tsamaisong ea rona

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ea moruo ea hajoale, e itšetlehileng feela khōlong.

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Mohlomong sena se ka boela sa bontšoa maemong a nalane.

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Ka pono ea ka, 'me sena ha e le hantle ke maikutlo a ka a
holimo-limo feela ha ho tluoa tabeng ea lichelete, ho na le matla

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a itseng a ipatileng a ileng a rala tsamaiso ena nako e 'ngoe.

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Seo se re tlisa Jekyll Island ka 1913, ha qeto ea ho theha
Federal Reserve e ne e etsoa ka mofuta oa phetohelo ea 'muso ke

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mmuso oa nako eo – baemeli bohle ba paramente ba ne ba le
phomolong ea Keresemese 'me maseneta a ne a le

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phomolong. Taba eohle e ile ea phahamisetsoa
pele ke batho ba seng bakae feela ba khethiloeng.

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Hape ho na le mohopolo o potolohang oa hore ho ne ho
e-na le bahlahlobisisi ba seng bakae ba tsamaiso ena ho

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Titanic, le hore le bona ba ile ba "lahloa" ka tsela ena.

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Na ebe matla ana a ka morao ho tsa bohlokoa, ao ke sa ka ke a
bolela mabitso a ona hajoale, a hlophisitse tsamaiso ena ka boomo

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ka tsela eo re batlang re arohane ka maikutlo a rona a fapaneng,
mme ka lebaka leo babusi ba sebele ba sala ba sa bonahale?

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Mohlomong o ka nahana ka mohopolo ona hanyane.

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E, e, pele ho tsohle, ke ikutloa ke sa phutholoha hobane,
ho latela boemo ba lichelete le moruo, ho thehiloe moferefere

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o moholo mona, oo mohlomong o hlokang ho lokisoa hanyane.

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Kahoo lintho tse ngata li kopantsoe hammoho – keketseho ea
litheko, phokotseho ea litheko, kholo ea moruo, mathata a moruo –

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tsohle li kentsoe pitseng e le 'ngoe joalokaha eka ho na le sesosa
se le seng feela, e ka ba keketseho ea litheko kapa phokotseho

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ea litheko kapa ntho e joalo, empa ha e le hantle ha ho joalo.

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Ho e-na le hoo, seo re tlamehang ho se lumela ke hore neng
kapa neng ha ho ba le kenokeno e mano, lehlakore le leng le

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rua molemo 'me le leng le behelloa morao. Seo se utloahala.

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Ha ke eketsa boleng ba chelete ho motho e mong ka ho
khetheha, deflation, ebe motho e mong ea alimileng chelete 'me a

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tlameha ho lefa boleng ba 'nete bo phahameng o ba le bothata.

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Jwale re fihla tabeng ya
Sehlekehleke sa Jekyll le ditaba tse ding.

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Sena ke sona hantle se sa lokelang
ho etsahala ho ya ka pono ya baahi.

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E leng hore sehlopha se senyenyane, mokgatlo o sa buuweng, se a
kopana mme se re, re tla fumana tumello, mme ke rona feela ba tla

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fumana tumello, ya ho etsa tjhelete, mme mmuso ha
o re fe tumello feela, empa hape o qobella bohle ho

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amohela hore ke rona feela ba ka etsang tjhelete.

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Ho tshwana le ha ke na le lebokose la divoutšhara moketjaneng,
nka etsa qeto ya hore ke mang ya fumanang divoutšhara dife.

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Metsoalle ea ka le batho bao ke ba tsebang ba fumana li-voucher
mahala, ba li fumana feela joalo, 'me ba bang ba lefa chelete e

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nyenyane ho feta bakeng sa tsona, 'me qetellong ha joala kapa eng
kapa eng e fela, ke fa ba bang li-voucher tse ngata

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bakeng sa ntho e 'ngoe, ke tseba hore ba ke ke ba fumana
letho ka tsona hobane joala kapa mokete o se o batla o fela.

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Mme ke yona moferefere. E ne e le borakgwebo ba dibanka ba
kopaneng Sehlekehlekeng sa Jekyll ba ileng ba theha monyetla ona.

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Mme ba boetse ba re, kaha ke rona feela ba nang le tjhelete mme
jwale re kgothalletsa mmuso ho sebedisa tjhelete ya rona feela

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bakeng sa merero ya moruo le ho ntsha kgauta
tsamaisong ya tjhelete, mmuso o tla dula o re

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pholosa mme o tla dula o itshetlehile ka rona.

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Mme ke yona moferefere wa nnete. Se etsahetseng mona ke hore
baetsi ba tjhelete, dibanka tse kopaneng moo,

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ba lokolotswe kotsing ya ho tlameha ho nka
boikarabelo bakeng sa yona ka tsela e itseng.

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Mme ka 1971, Nixon o ile a phatlalatsa hore United States e
qhekelletsehile mme a re, mamelang, re le thetsitse, ha re kgone

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ho fana, re entse tjhelete e ngata ho feta eo re nang le yona, le
ho feta eo re neng re lokela ho ba le yona,

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mme ha re kgone ho fana ka kgauta, kahoo ke re
hajoale ke tla arola dolara kgauteng ka nakwana.

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Ke sona feela seo a se entseng, o
ile a phatlalatsa hore o qhekeletse.

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Mme ho tloha ho putlameng hona ha moruo, batho ba ile ba re –
jwale ha ke sa na mekgwa, jwale sehlopha sena sa lekunutu sa

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borakgwebo ba banka ba New York se ka etsa tjhelete e
kaalo kaalo kamoo se batlang, ha se sa na kotsi. Hobane ha

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ho hlokehe hore ba fane ka letho bakeng sa yona, letho!

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O ka tswelapele ho hatisa dirisiti,
jwalo ka ha ho etswa k'haseng ya dirisiti...

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Seo se bolela hore, ha batho jwale ba batla ho ya hae mme ba re,
"Mokotleng wa li-voucher... Jwale nkgusetseng di-euro

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kapa di-dollar tsa ka tseo re o fileng tsona," o re,
"Tjhe, tjhe, ho ngotswe mona hore o fumana li-voucher feela."

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U ka nka rasiti ea hau, 'me ke tla u fa e ncha.

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O re, a bapala, "Na kea tseba hore na ho tla
ba le mokete o mong selemong se tlang?" Ha

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re bone, ha re tsebe, o ka tsamaya le eona.

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Mme ke yona moferefere! Mme kgauta ehlile e sireletsa kgahlanong
le yona. Ho na le dintho tse ding tse neng di ka

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sireletsa kgahlanong le yona. Empa kgauta esale e
ipakile e tshepahala ka ho kgetheha ho theosa le nalane.

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Mme kgauta ha e so ka e soabisa tshepo ho theosa le nalane.

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Mme hoo ke feela kgang ya papatso ya hore kgauta e ka boela ya
sebediswa ho tsosolosa tshepo ena ya motheo ho tjhelete qalong.

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Seo se sa tsoa senngoa ka lichelete tsa hajoale.

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Re lokela ho nyatsa taba ea hore batho ba
busa batho ba bang. Ke eona taba ea sebele.

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Mme seo re ka se buang ka ho bonahala ho
nepahala ha US Federal Reserve ke mokgwa oo

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molao o phethahatsoang ka ona lefatsheng kajeno.

57:47.548 --> 57:50.566
Hore re na le tsamaiso e hlomphehang ea molao.

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E, molao o etswa feela ke sehlopha se itseng sa
batho, ebe ba re ho futhumatsa ha jwale ke tlamo.

57:55.410 --> 57:59.209
Mme ehlile ha ke thabe ka hona haeba
sistimi ya ka ya ho futhumatsa e se e sa lokela.

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E, mme ho ne ho le jwalo hantle ka nako eo. Euro e ile ya re
qobellwa ho re sebedisa ntle le hore re be le

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monyetla wa ho hana. Ka mantswe a mang, ke molao o
qobellwang. Mme molao o qobellwang ha o na toka.

58:11.446 --> 58:19.503
Molao o dumellanwa pakeng tsa mekgahlelo e etsang konteraka, mme
ditumellano kapa dikonteraka tsena di kenyeletsa taba ya hore

58:19.503 --> 58:26.281
mahlakore ohle a a elwa hloko ka hara dikonteraka, hore motho o
dumela ka boithaopo, eseng, jwalo ka ha ho

58:26.281 --> 58:33.436
etsahetse nakong e fetileng le jwalo ka ha re dumelletse
kajeno, hore molao o qobellwe batho ke sehlotshwana.

58:33.436 --> 58:38.126
Joale ke mang ea tla fana ka chelete e
molemo le e hlokang leeme ea kamoso? Mohlomong e

58:38.126 --> 58:41.420
ke ke ea ba ECB, akere? Erich, u nahana'ng?

58:41.420 --> 58:48.598
E, che, ho hang, hobane le tsamaisong ena ea lichelete ea hajoale
ntle le tekanyetso ea khauta, re itšetlehile ka batho ba fokolang

58:48.598 --> 58:54.297
ba matla, bao ke ba bitsang NWOlites – e seng maemo
a holimo feela, empa e le Tšebetso e Ncha ea Lefatše

58:54.297 --> 58:57.610
le maemo a holimo, matla a ka morao ho liketsahalo.

58:57.610 --> 59:05.123
Ba-NWOlites kajeno ba laola tlhahiso ea chelete hape ba
etsa qeto ka tataiso ea lipolotiki tsa lefatše, Sehlopha

59:05.123 --> 59:08.972
sa Boraro, le leano la laesense la libanka tse bohareng.

59:08.972 --> 59:17.637
Tsena ha se libanka tse bohareng tse ikemetseng; kaofela ke tsa
poraefete. Sena se qala ho tloha Bankeng ea Engelane, ke

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lumela ka 1792, ha mmuso oa Borithane o ne o nehelana ka
matla a ho hatisa chelete ea oona ho batho ba poraefete.

59:25.893 --> 59:32.351
Kahoo taba ena e qala khale haholo. Mme ho sa
tsotellehe hore na re hloka ECB kapa FED, re

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hloka feela mekhoa e tsitsitseng ea puseletso.

59:35.748 --> 59:41.535
Re e bitsa feela tsamaiso ea lichelete kapa ea
chelete kapa ea lichelete tsa naha; re hloka feela

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molao-motheo oa chelete kapa oa tokiso ea tšebetso.

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U ka etsa seo hona joale ka chelete e se nang
tšhetso, le ka chelete e nang le tšhetso, empa tabeng ea

59:49.675 --> 59:52.328
'muso oa khauta, ho khutlela ho eona ka bokhutšoanyane,

59:52.328 --> 59:58.284
Ke hopola Mmuso wa Roma, moo ke ileng ka fumana seaparo sa banna
se ntheketse ka ho kgetheha ka aunse ya kgauta,

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e leng tunic, sandale tsa letlalo, moqhaka wa
laurel le bow e kgubedu e tsamaelanang le sona.

01:00:03.548 --> 01:00:10.061
Mme kajeno, ka aonse ya kgauta, nka fumana le sutu e ntle ya
banna e entsweng ka ho kgetheha, e nang le dieta tse loketseng.

01:00:10.061 --> 01:00:16.511
Ka hona khauta e lula e na le boleng bo tšoanang; ke
lichelete feela tse eketsehang kapa tse fokotsehang ka boleng.

01:00:16.511 --> 01:00:20.593
Kahoo mohopolo oa hore khauta joale e tla imena habeli, kapa
ka leshome, kapa esita le ka lekholo, kapa hore silevera le

01:00:20.593 --> 01:00:23.120
litšepe tse ling li tla etsa se tšoanang, ke thetso e feletseng.

01:00:23.120 --> 01:00:30.748
Ke lichelete tsa fiat hantle-ntle tse qetellong li lahlehetsoeng
ke boleng bo boholo mehleng ea morao tjena, 'me ke lumela hore

01:00:30.748 --> 01:00:37.354
haeba re ne re e-na le 'muso oa 'nete o tsotellang boiketlo ba
batho ba oona, joale, ka maikutlo a ka, o ka ba

01:00:37.354 --> 01:00:43.303
oa sebelisa chelete eo o sebelisa tsamaiso e
nepahetseng, e hlokang leeme le e nang le toka.

01:00:43.303 --> 01:00:49.152
Eo ka sebele e ka ba monyetla o mong, empa ka lehlakoreng
le leng, batho, joalokaha u bua, ba na le boqapi bo boholo

01:00:49.152 --> 01:00:52.202
hoo re lulang re fumana litharollo, 'me litharollo li teng.

01:00:52.202 --> 01:00:59.674
Kahoo, ha re sheba pele potso ea hau, Robert, ke mang
ea sebelisang chelete hantle? Kapa re e sebelisetsa eng?

01:00:59.674 --> 01:01:05.120
Ho na le mehlala ea sena. A litsamaiso li
qothisane lehlokoa 'me batho ba etse qeto.

01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:10.263
Mme seo se re tlisa tsamaisong eo ke
dumelang hore e haufi le ho kenngwa tshebetsong.

01:01:10.263 --> 01:01:13.798
Re na le mathata a potlakileng tsamaisong ea lichelete.

01:01:13.798 --> 01:01:20.249
Re na le ho se leka-lekane ho hlahileng hobane batho
ba qhekelitsoe, hobane batho ba ne ba lumela hore ba

01:01:20.249 --> 01:01:24.078
ka fana ka likalimo kapa ba etsa chelete ntle le kotsi.

01:01:24.078 --> 01:01:29.803
Ba ne ba ka fana ka likalimo ho Ukraine, mme ho ne
ho se ya ka botsang hore na tjhelete e ne e tla

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lefshoa jwang; ba ne ba tla mpa ba etsa e nngwe hape.

01:01:33.575 --> 01:01:40.881
Mme jwale ho ka etsahala hore tjhelete ena e tlamehe
ho balwa e le tahlehelo hobane mokadimi ya

01:01:40.881 --> 01:01:45.887
amohetseng tjhelete o mpa a re, "Ha ke sa kgona ho e lefa."

01:01:45.887 --> 01:01:51.519
Sena se etsahala hona joale ho lik'hamphani
tse 20,000 ka selemo le ho feta, Jeremane feela.

01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:57.115
Litumellano tse nyenyane, tse
kholo, ha re tsebe, empa ho baka likheo.

01:01:57.115 --> 01:02:05.946
Mme jwale re na le bothata ka tlaleho ya banka hobane ba ne ba
tshepile hore tjhelete e tla kgutla, rakgwebo XYZ, eo jwale a

01:02:05.946 --> 01:02:13.994
qhekeletsweng, kapa moadimi ya ileng a kena qhekeletsong ya
botho, kapa Ukraine, e sa e lefang, mohlomong le Fora

01:02:13.994 --> 01:02:22.297
haufinyane, e bileng yona e sa kgoneng ho e lefa,
jwalo jwalo... Tlaleho ya bona ya banka ha e sa nepahala.

01:02:22.297 --> 01:02:28.990
Ebang bona ka bo bona ha ba sa na kabelo ea bona, e leng se
etsang hore e be karolong ea mekoloto, hobane haeba ba lahleheloa

01:02:28.990 --> 01:02:34.827
ke thepa karolong ea thepa – kaha chelete eo ba ntseng ba
tšepa ho e fumana ho motho e mong ke thepa ho bona,

01:02:34.827 --> 01:02:38.219
empa ho banka – joale ba tlameha ho etsa ho hong ka taba eo.

01:02:38.219 --> 01:02:45.350
Ho tšoana le ka libanka tse bohareng, 'me libanka tse bohareng li
ka itsohola boemong bona habonolo ka ho fetola

01:02:45.350 --> 01:02:52.030
boleng ba ntho e le 'ngoe feela e ka lekanyetsoang
likhaolong tsa tsona tsa tekanyo, e leng khauta.

01:02:52.030 --> 01:02:56.709
U ka fana ka tlhahiso efe, pono ea hau e ntle ka ho
fetisisa ea tsamaiso ea lichelete nakong e tlang e ka

01:02:56.709 --> 01:02:59.164
lebisang khotso le khothaletsang liketso e ka ba efe?

01:02:59.164 --> 01:03:05.101
Mang kapa mang a ka shebella filimi, "The Miracle of
Wörgl". Ke filimi e ntle haholo, ebile ke ea 'nete haholo.

01:03:05.101 --> 01:03:11.690
Ke tseba pale ea Wörgl, 'me ke 'nete e hlollang kamoo
tsamaiso e se nang tsoala e ileng ea ntša ka tšohanyetso

01:03:11.690 --> 01:03:15.687
sechaba se senyenyane sa Wörgl bothateng ba moruo ba lefatše.

01:03:15.687 --> 01:03:21.940
Mehlape e meng e meng e le makgolo ya ile ya batla ho
kenela, ho fihlela taba yohle e thibelwa ka dikgoka.

01:03:21.940 --> 01:03:27.576
Kahoo qetellong, tsohle li itšetlehile ka litefiso tsa
tsoala. Sistimi e nang le tsoala e lula e lebisa ntoeng.

01:03:27.576 --> 01:03:33.865
Prof. Gustav Ruhland o ile a ngola ka sena lilemong tse 150
tse fetileng bukeng ea hae "System of Political Economy".

01:03:33.865 --> 01:03:38.776
O ngotse hore ntoa ke tsela eo barui ba etsang chelete ka eona.

01:03:38.776 --> 01:03:43.440
O boetse o ngola hore ha feela re ntse re na le
bokapitale bo thehiloeng lithatong, ntoa e tla lula e le teng.

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:49.202
Ka bokhutšoanyane, hobane litefiso tsa tsoala ka bo tsona li
baka sekoloto se feteletseng se ntseng se hola ka potlako,

01:03:49.202 --> 01:03:52.132
'me qetellong sena se baka ntoa, moo linaha li loantšanang.

01:03:52.132 --> 01:03:56.760
Ho bile hobe le ho feta ka tekanyetso ea
khauta, hobane qetellong tsohle li mabapi le khauta.

01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.901
Eseng ka phepelo e sa fetoheng ea chelete, hobane
joale e ne e ke ke ea hola ka potlako e ntseng e imena...

01:03:59.901 --> 01:04:03.799
Phepelo ea chelete e ke ke ea lula e sa
fetoheng hobane moruo o ntse o hola, 'me phepelo

01:04:03.799 --> 01:04:05.913
ea chelete e tlameha ho lekanngoa le moruo.

01:04:05.913 --> 01:04:09.402
Ke sona hantle se bakang qaka. Ke sona
hantle se bakang qaka. Ke bothata boo.

01:04:09.402 --> 01:04:13.482
Re sa tsoa bona mohlaleng oa
Scotland le Great Britain hore ha ho joalo.

01:04:13.482 --> 01:04:16.701
Empa ho na le mehlala e mengata moo
sena se lebisitseng tsietsing le ntoeng.

01:04:16.701 --> 01:04:20.509
Haholoholo mabapi le tsietsi ea moruo oa lefatše, e ileng ea
lateloa ke Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše – ha se ketsahalo e sa

01:04:20.509 --> 01:04:22.383
reroang hore liketsahalo tsena li latellane ka potlako e kholo.

01:04:22.383 --> 01:04:27.332
Kahoo USA e ne e le bothateng ba moruo ba lefatshe ka bophara ho
fihlela ka 1939. Ke feela ka ho hlomella mabotho Ntoeng ea

01:04:27.332 --> 01:04:32.283
Bobeli ea Lefatše moo ba ileng ba pholoha teng; ho seng
joalo, ba ka be ba ntse ba le bothateng boo ba moruo le kajeno.

01:04:32.283 --> 01:04:36.006
O ke ke wa tswa bothateng bo jwalo
ba ho theoha ha theko ntle le ntwa.

01:04:36.006 --> 01:04:39.837
Ka hona, dintho di tla tswela pele jwalo ka ha di dula di etsa.

01:04:39.837 --> 01:04:45.694
Ho tla ba le ho theoha ha theko, ebe ntoa e kholo e tla
tla – ntho tsohle li tla senngoa ebe li hahuoa bocha.

01:04:45.694 --> 01:04:50.607
Ho tla etsahala hape. Ke bona Ntoa ea Boraro ea Lefatše e
tla, feela joalokaha Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše e ile ea tla.

01:04:50.607 --> 01:04:52.923
Mokhoa oa tšebetso o tšoana hantle le oo re nang le oona kajeno.

01:04:52.923 --> 01:04:55.678
Hona joale ho ntse ho thehwa phupu e kgolo ya tekanyetso.

01:04:55.678 --> 01:05:01.008
Batho ba qholotsoa bophofuling: o tlameha ho reka liabo
le ho tsetela, chelete e tlameha ho sebetsa, 'me kaofela

01:05:01.008 --> 01:05:03.839
ha lona le tla ruela, kapa ke kamoo ba tšepisang kateng.

01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:07.448
Mme haeba e phatloha jwalokaha e entse ka 1929,
re tla ba le tatellano e tshwanang hantle ya

01:05:07.448 --> 01:05:10.541
diketsahalo jwalokaha re bile le yona ka nako eo.

01:05:13.878 --> 01:05:22.619
Na u ka qala ka ho akaretsa ka
bokhutšoanyane hore na u bona Europe e betere e le joang?

01:05:22.619 --> 01:05:28.930
Ka thabo, Monghadi Magnet. Pele ho tsohle, ke
leboha haholo ka memo – ke thabile haholo ho ba mona.

01:05:28.930 --> 01:05:38.117
Ke tlotla e kgolo ho nna ho ba mona kopanong eo ke dumelang
e le ya Bobedi Alternative Forum, Bobedi Alternative WEF.

01:05:38.117 --> 01:05:46.120
Jeremane e lokela ho nkoa e le karolo ea
kopano ea linaha tsa Europe tse ikemetseng.

01:05:46.120 --> 01:05:54.893
Re emetse mohlala. Re emetse mohlala oa linaha tse
ikemetseng, tse busang ka boikemelo, ka mantsoe a

01:05:54.893 --> 01:06:00.014
mang, bakeng sa se bitsoang Europe ena ea naha-mè.

01:06:00.014 --> 01:06:09.553
Mme re emetse diphetoho, ka ho feletseng bakeng sa ho qhaqholla
sebata sena sa tsamaiso e boima, seo ka bonna se

01:06:09.553 --> 01:06:18.756
nkgopotsang haholo masalla a Soviet Union, le bakeng
sa ho kgutlisetsa European Union motheong wa yona.

01:06:18.756 --> 01:06:28.485
Mme seo se ka fihlellwa feela ka ho fokotsa tsamaiso e boima,
ka ho tlosa basebeletsi ba mmuso ba dikete-kete ba hatellang

01:06:28.485 --> 01:06:33.442
batho le ho behela dikgwebo le bareki ba poraefete dithibelo.

01:06:33.442 --> 01:06:40.281
Sena se kgahlanong ka ho feletseng le mohopolo wa
tlhodisano e lokolohileng, kgwebo e lokolohileng le ditokoloho

01:06:40.281 --> 01:06:43.948
tsa botho. Empa mohlomong re tla fihla ho seo haufinyane.

01:06:43.948 --> 01:06:50.994
Mmuso ona o eme hokae tlasa Chancellor enoa e tshabehang
Friedrich Merz, eo ke mo nkang e le motho ya

01:06:50.994 --> 01:06:58.784
hlokang bokgoni ka ho feletseng, motho ya hlokang bokgoni
ka ho feletseng ya tswelang pele ho senya naha ena?

01:06:58.784 --> 01:07:01.756
Ha ho thata ho hang.

01:07:01.756 --> 01:07:07.084
Litheko tsa rona tsa motlakase li phahame
haholo. Re hloloa ke tlholisano ea machaba hohle.

01:07:07.084 --> 01:07:10.772
Mokokotlo oa rona ke indasteri ea
likoloi, enjene e chesang mafura.

01:07:10.772 --> 01:07:16.158
Re boetse re le mona ka thibelo ea lienjine tsa ho
chesa mafuteng a EU. Empa e tšehelitsoe ke 'muso

01:07:16.158 --> 01:07:19.158
oa Jeremane, kahoo ha ho letho le etsoang ho hang!

01:07:19.158 --> 01:07:23.686
Ebe re na le Molao oa Taolo ea Matla a
Meaho. Re nahana hore le oona o motle haholo.

01:07:23.686 --> 01:07:30.514
Mme haeba CSU ebe e qala ho qhomisa
diteishene tsa matla a nyutlelie Bavaria.

01:07:30.514 --> 01:07:34.265
O tlameha ho e nahana, e tshwana le sefefo se matla.

01:07:34.265 --> 01:07:41.013
Hona ke sefefo sa mechini, sefefo sa theknoloji naheng ea rona.

01:07:41.013 --> 01:07:49.791
Ka nalane, sena se nkhopotsa letsholo le le
leng la Mao Zedong naheng ya Bokomonisi ya China.

01:07:49.791 --> 01:07:57.697
Ho ne ho ena le motho pele, Mao, ea ileng a re, joale taba e
tla etsoa tjena, eaba bohle ba mo latela le bona ba e etsa.

01:07:57.697 --> 01:08:03.675
Lentswe la sehlooho: kgatelopele e kgolo. Ke eng
se fapaneng Jeremane kajeno, ho etswa eng moo?

01:08:03.675 --> 01:08:08.829
Thepa e sa sisinyeheng ea boleng ba libilione e mpa
e qhomisoa feela ka mor'a ho fokotsa boleng ba eona,

01:08:08.829 --> 01:08:11.488
e senyeha ka ho feletseng e sa ka ke ea hlaphoheloa.

01:08:11.488 --> 01:08:19.097
Litsi tsa matla a nyutlelie tse sebetsang, tseo ka tsela e 'ngoe
li sa hlahiseng khase e senyang moea, lia phatlolwa, mme naha e

01:08:19.097 --> 01:08:25.517
kang Jeremane, e leng naha e tsoetseng pele ka
liindasteri, e qobella ho sebetsana le phepelo ea motlakase e

01:08:25.517 --> 01:08:29.752
sa tsitsang ka litheko tsa matla tse nyolohang haholo.

01:08:29.752 --> 01:08:40.415
Bofokoli bona ba mehloli ea matla e ka nchafatsoang pele
bo ne bo tlatsetsoa ke khase ea Russia e theko e tlase.

01:08:40.415 --> 01:08:43.689
Kahoo, seo se nkgutlisetsa potsolotsong ya Europe.

01:08:43.689 --> 01:08:52.300
Ke eng hle e tshwereng baetapele ba Yuropa ho kena dipakeng ho ya
boemong bona, ho hanyetsa Russia ho ya boemong

01:08:52.300 --> 01:09:00.129
bona hoo dithahasello tsa setjhaba sa rona di
seng di sa emelwe ho hang, empa di ntse di senngwa?

01:09:00.129 --> 01:09:08.277
Hobane ho na le lintho tse peli tseo re lokelang ho li utloisisa.
Re ke ke ra qosa ntoa Europe ntle le Russia, ke ntlha e

01:09:08.277 --> 01:09:16.905
'ngoe, 'me e 'ngoe ke hore moruo oa rona ha o na tlholisano ntle
le khase ea tlhaho ea Russia – ke lipalo tse bonolo haholo.

01:09:16.905 --> 01:09:23.757
Dijithale e ka ba monyetla ho ba pusong. Bonyane, hoo ke seo ho
buisanweng ka sona mona kajeno, hore tjhelete ya banka e bohareng

01:09:23.757 --> 01:09:28.856
ya dijithale, e hokahanngwang le boitsebiso ba
dijithale, e tla ba mokgwa wa kgatello kgahlanong

01:09:28.856 --> 01:09:31.751
le baahi le kgahlanong le dihlopha tsa bohanyetsi.

01:09:31.751 --> 01:09:38.091
Ehlile ho joalo, 'me ke ka lebaka leo batho ba
e batlang. Ke bolela hore, tsohle li hokahane.

01:09:38.091 --> 01:09:45.282
Bon, ke kgodisehile ka ho feletseng hore seo re se
boneng nakong ya mehato ya coronavirus ke

01:09:45.282 --> 01:09:49.938
dipolotiki, hore e ne e le teko, teko ya ntho e kgolo ho feta.

01:09:49.938 --> 01:09:57.608
Mekhoa e ile ea lekoa ka hloko e kholo ho bona hore na mehato ea
khatello e ka nka boholo bo bokae ho thibela litokelo tsa botho,

01:09:57.608 --> 01:10:05.041
le hore na batho ba ka lumellana le sena ho isa bohōleng bofe
ka mano, khothatso le phatlalatso ea maikutlo mecheng ea litaba.

01:10:05.041 --> 01:10:11.127
Sena sohle se hlophisitsoe ke kopano e matla ea lipolotiki
le mecha ea litaba, ka sepheo sa ho senya batho feela ka e

01:10:11.127 --> 01:10:15.014
'ngoe ea mashano a maholo ka ho fetisisa a kileng a e-ba teng.

01:10:15.014 --> 01:10:20.220
Ke mokhoa o tšoanang hantle le ka tšabo ea phetoho ea tlelaemete.

01:10:20.220 --> 01:10:25.314
Joale, hona joale ho se ho qala, oh, joale re
tlameha ho beha matšoafo ho baahi! Seo ke ho

01:10:25.314 --> 01:10:28.478
kena ka kotloloho pusong ea tlhokomelo. Hobaneng?

01:10:28.478 --> 01:10:36.968
E, ha o batle ho ba le baahi ba sa thabiseng! O batla hore ho be
jwalo ka 1984 ya George Orwell – o ka ho bona ka ho hlaka – moo

01:10:36.968 --> 01:10:41.370
ho qapiloeng sera sa kantle, sa nnete-nnete, mme batho ba laoloa.

01:10:41.370 --> 01:10:48.859
Le eena Aldous Huxley o khahla haholo-holo, joalo ka Ray
Bradbury, ka buka ea hae ea Fahrenheit 451 – libuka

01:10:48.859 --> 01:10:56.942
tse hlollang tse takang setšoantšo se tšosang sa
bokamoso, seo, nka re, re se lebeletseng ka lebelo le holimo.

01:10:56.942 --> 01:11:04.411
Von der Leyen o lora bosiu hore a ka bala melaetsa ea rona, kahoo
ea ka e baloa kaofela, 'me ke nahana hore le ea lona e joalo. Hoa

01:11:04.411 --> 01:11:11.708
ferekanya hanyane, empa ho ka ba monate hakaakang haeba ho ne ho
se ea ka hlole a lefa ka chelete e tšoaroang ka letsoho – ha ke

01:11:11.708 --> 01:11:19.455
bua 'nete, ha ho le ea mong oa lona mona ea ka hlole a lefa ka
chelete e tšoaroang ka letsoho – hobane joale le ne le ka laoloa.

01:11:19.455 --> 01:11:27.422
Mme jwale ntlha ke ena: haeba o sa tsamaye le ba busang, haeba o
ne o ka be o itse nakong ya sewa sa coronavirus, "Hela, ha ke na

01:11:27.422 --> 01:11:34.277
ho entwa," o nahana hore ho ka be ho etsahetse eng haeba ba ne ba
se ba na le mekgwa ya ho etsa jwalo, motho ya

01:11:34.277 --> 01:11:40.454
kang Söder mane Bavaria, kapa ya kang
Lauterbach, seo ba neng ba ka se etsa ho ba sa entwang...

01:11:40.454 --> 01:11:50.154
Liakhaonto li thibetsoe, ebe o ka be o ile oa
robala tlas'a borokho, hobane euro ea dijithale ha

01:11:50.154 --> 01:11:55.130
se letho haese mokhoa oa khatello ea lipolotiki.

01:11:55.130 --> 01:12:06.388
Haeba u moipelaetsi, o ka thibeloa mme matlotlo a hao a ka
nkelwa; a ka nkelwa feela haeba a teng ka mokgwa wa elektroniki.

01:12:06.388 --> 01:12:14.947
Qetellong, taba ke ena! Re sa tsoa utloa sehlopha se
seng se bua ka thepa, ha ho sa na thepa ea Bophirimela.

01:12:14.947 --> 01:12:18.538
E mong o re o batla ho reka thepa, e
mong o mo eletsa hore a se ke a e reka.

01:12:18.538 --> 01:12:22.965
Le nna ke dumellana le ya morao, moo ke buang
ka ho hlaka hore mang kapa mang ya rekang

01:12:22.965 --> 01:12:25.600
thepa hona jwale o tlameha ho nka kalimo ya banka.

01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:31.711
Re bone kamoo sena se ka etsahalang ka potlako kateng
Jeremane ka Molao oa Tekano ea Moroalo lilemong tsa bo-1950.

01:12:31.711 --> 01:12:37.953
Ho tla ba le mokoloto o qobelloang hodima yona, kahoo
o ka o lefa le wona, mme ke yona feela tjhelete yohle.

01:12:37.953 --> 01:12:43.853
Ka mor'a moo ho tla latela thibelo ea khauta, kaha lithibelo
tsa khauta ke sesupo se etellang pele taolo ea matsete a maholo.

01:12:43.853 --> 01:12:49.612
Haeba euro e tswela pele ho putlama, mme e tla. Euro e phela
feela ka lebaka la theko ya tshehetso e etswang ke dibanka tse

01:12:49.612 --> 01:12:54.106
bohareng, haholoholo dibanka tse bohareng tsa
kantle ho naha, tse rekisang ditjhelete tsa tsona,

01:12:54.106 --> 01:12:56.472
e leng ditjhelete tse matla, kgahlanong le euro.

01:12:56.472 --> 01:13:05.650
Ba ntse ba tlameha ho nka matlakala ana, tjhelete ena e
bobebe kaofela. Mme ka mora moo ho tla lithibelo tsa khauta.

01:13:05.650 --> 01:13:12.379
Ke hore, re bone sena nakong e lebisang Ntoeng ea
Pele ea Lefatše le nakong ea Ntoa ea Pele ea Lefatše,

01:13:12.379 --> 01:13:16.034
ka libonto tsa ntoa le phapanyetsano bakeng sa khauta.

01:13:16.034 --> 01:13:23.605
Empa kamora moo ba ne ba se ba sa kgone ho etsa jwalo,
kahoo e ne e se e sa fetohe, mme seo se amana le taba ya

01:13:23.605 --> 01:13:27.634
hore batho ba se ba sa kgone ho ntsha tjhelete ya naha.

01:13:27.634 --> 01:13:30.710
Mme ke ka lebaka leo batho ba batlang euro ya dijithale.

01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:37.271
Rea tseba hore ke chelete e se nang boleng, ke chelete ea
fiat, e teng feela ka elektroniki, 'me ba batla ho hatella

01:13:37.271 --> 01:13:41.061
batho e le hore ba se ke ba hlola ba ka hlahisa maikutlo a bona.

01:13:41.061 --> 01:13:45.139
Joale liakhaonto tsa bona li tla kwalwa. Mme ka
lehlakoreng le leng, ba ke ke ba hlola ba kgona

01:13:45.139 --> 01:13:47.353
ho tswa ho tjhelete ena, ho tjhelete ena ya fiat.

01:13:47.353 --> 01:13:57.969
Sebaka sena se pakeng tsa leqeleng le letona ha
e sa le taba, kapa bonyane ha se taba ea kajeno.

01:13:57.969 --> 01:14:08.641
Taba ea mehla ea rona ha e le hantle ke khohlano e
teng lipakeng tsa tokoloho le khatello ea mmuso.

01:14:08.641 --> 01:14:13.793
Ke phetho, kannete! Ho 'na ka bonna.

01:14:13.793 --> 01:14:18.924
Mme kamehla ke tseba se tlang kamorao, oh e, ke
bolela hore, hobaneng e le AfD, hobaneng ba bua jwalo,

01:14:18.924 --> 01:14:21.629
re batho ba lehlakore le letona mona le tsohle tseo.

01:14:21.629 --> 01:14:26.266
Ee, le 'na ke motho ea ts'oarellang oa lehlakore le
letona, empa o tlameha ho beha lintho tsa bohlokoa pele.

01:14:26.266 --> 01:14:34.625
Mme ntho e tlang pele ho nna ke ho sebeletsa ho
netefatsa hore re emelana le mmuso o hatellang,

01:14:34.625 --> 01:14:38.800
e le ho sireletsa ditokelo tsa rona tsa botho.

01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.042
Ke sona hantle se ileng sa nkgothatsa ho kena dipolotiking.

01:14:42.042 --> 01:14:45.424
Ke lona lebaka le entseng hore ke lule mona kajeno.

01:14:49.020 --> 01:14:51.099
Nke ke ka lebala sena bophelo bohle ba ka.

01:14:51.099 --> 01:14:54.238
Mme bohle ba sebedisang lentswe 'ntwa' ka
bohlaswa ba lokela ho ya moleng o jwalo wa ntweng.

01:14:54.238 --> 01:15:02.085
Ba lokela ho bona se etsahalang moo ho ba
leng ka pele-pele, le ho ba ba ka hare-hare.

01:15:02.085 --> 01:15:09.205
Hoo ha ho nahanehe, mme ke bohlaswa bo boholo
le ho nahana feela ka ho qala ntho e jwalo hape.

01:15:09.205 --> 01:15:18.835
Ha o taka setshwantsho sena sa Yuropa
e phethahetseng, o ka qala kae pele?

01:15:18.835 --> 01:15:24.449
EU e tlameha ho tsamaya. Eo ke tlhoko ea ka e tiileng.

01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:34.868
Ho theosa le lilemo, ka litumellano le mathata, EU e itlhomile e
le matla a hapileng sebaka Europe mme, ka pono ea ka, e hapa

01:15:34.868 --> 01:15:45.204
kontinente ena ka mokhoa o sehlōhō, oa bohatelli, e hatella litso
tsa eona, e hatella tokoloho, e hatella tokoloho ea ho bua

01:15:45.204 --> 01:15:55.549
– e bile e khutlisetsa kontinente ena moo EU e neng e hlile
e batla ho e pholosa teng, e leng litšenyehelong tsa ntoa.

01:15:55.549 --> 01:16:01.526
Mme ke hona hantle moo EU e etellang Europe
pele hape. Mme EU ena e tlameha ho fediswa.

01:16:01.526 --> 01:16:06.401
Ke mohopolo o sa tshwareheng o seng o se na kamano le Yuropa.

01:16:06.401 --> 01:16:14.321
Ke sehlopha sa babureokrate ba ikarotseng bao mohlomong ba seng
ba sa tsebe se etsahalang Europe, ntle le Brussels, libakeng

01:16:14.321 --> 01:16:18.585
tsa bona tse koetsoeng, maemong a bona a sa amaneng le nnete.

01:16:18.585 --> 01:16:23.155
Eo e ka ba tlhoko ea ka ea pele, 'me nke ke ka inehela.

01:16:23.155 --> 01:16:31.551
Hobane o ke ke wa ntlafatsa EU ena; tabeng ena, o
tlameha ho qhaqholla tsamaiso ena ka ho feletseng.

01:16:31.551 --> 01:16:38.057
Se tla tsoa ho sona ke potso e kholo,
empa lintho li tla mpa li ntlafala feela.

01:16:38.057 --> 01:16:45.130
Mme ditjhaba tsa Yuropa di ikokobeditse ditaelo
tsa Kopano ena ya Yuropa ka mashome a dilemo.

01:16:45.130 --> 01:16:53.004
Mme ke qosa boradipolotiki ba rona ka bophetetsi, ka ho eka
baahi ba Europe, hobane ba re rekisitse mme ba re eketse,

01:16:53.004 --> 01:16:57.644
bakeng sa lithahasello life kapa life tseo ba nang le tsona.

01:16:57.644 --> 01:17:02.300
Ruri, Europe ke kampa e matla ya bobe hona jwale.

01:17:02.300 --> 01:17:08.541
Sebaka sena ke moo bobe bohle bo
tsoang teng. Europe e ke ke ea ntlafatsoa.

01:17:08.541 --> 01:17:13.369
Europa ena eo re e fumanang kajeno e
tlameha ho nyamela ka ho feletseng.

01:17:13.369 --> 01:17:23.081
Tabeng ena, ha ke motšehetsi e moholo oa Europe, sebata sena sa
tsamaiso e rarahaneng, sebopeho sena sa bo-ntate se

01:17:23.081 --> 01:17:32.162
inahanelang sona feela, seo ke se bonang e le morero oa
bo-imperiale oa USA o qobelloang linaheng tsa Europe.

01:17:32.162 --> 01:17:37.777
E reriloe hantle, e lokisitsoe ka bokhabane – ke tla bua
ho eketsehileng ka seo haufinyane, ha ke fumana monyetla.

01:17:37.777 --> 01:17:43.491
Kahoo ha ke Moreuope ea chesehang. Ruri
ha ke eo, ha ho motho ea ka bang joalo.

01:17:43.491 --> 01:17:53.006
Ha ho na letho le letle le ka buuoang ka boiketsiso
bona ba paramente bo etsoang ka pel'a mahlo a rona.

01:17:53.006 --> 01:17:55.431
Ena ke kgato ya lefeela.

01:17:55.431 --> 01:18:06.031
Ha o sheba dipuo, Ma-MP a na le metsotso e mmedi, kapa e meraro,
ebe maekrofounu e a tima, haholoholo haeba ba bua ntho e sa

01:18:06.031 --> 01:18:13.639
tsamaelaneng le maikutlo a Mofumahadi von der
Leyen, eo ka nako eo a ntseng a tshwarehile

01:18:13.639 --> 01:18:17.991
ka merero ya bohlale ya EU ka hloohong ya hae.

01:18:17.991 --> 01:18:25.053
O ka bona tsohle ho eena, o ka bala mahlong a hae,
mehopolo ea bohatelli e tsamaeang ka kelellong ea hae.

01:18:25.053 --> 01:18:30.196
Hona ha se Yuropa eo mang kapa mang a e batlang, haholoholo nna.

01:18:30.196 --> 01:18:38.242
Nke ke ka nahana hore na ke batho ba mofuta ofe ba ka batlang
Europe e joalo, ntle le ba amehileng feela ka matla le

01:18:38.242 --> 01:18:44.554
litabatabelo tsa boemphera, ho lokisetsa
lintoa tse ncha kapa bonyane ho lokisetsa mofuta o

01:18:44.554 --> 01:18:48.072
itseng oa bokhoni ba sesole. Hase Europe ea ka.

01:18:48.072 --> 01:18:57.137
Nka araba potso eo habonolo bakeng sa ka: koala mekhatlo eohle
ea EU hang-hang, ka ho feletseng, 'me e se ke ea nkeloa sebaka.

01:18:57.137 --> 01:19:02.381
Bahlanka bohle ba mmuso ba Europe ba
lelekilwe, ka ho feletseng mme ba sa nkelwe sebaka.

01:19:02.381 --> 01:19:05.472
Ha re hloke tsamaiso ena ya dipampiri ho hang.

01:19:05.472 --> 01:19:14.079
Mme ke dumela hore rona ba fano sethaleng sena re etsa phoso –
mme ena ke nyatso e akaretsang eo nka ratang ho ikhanyetsa

01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:23.840
yona – ya ho thekesela ka phatlalatso eo ke e boletseng
pejana ka ho nahana hore Yuropa ena, EU ena, e ka ntlafatswa.

01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:29.525
EU e thata ho e ntlafatsa joalo ka
hotele e tletseng e hlokang ho nchafatsoa.

01:19:29.525 --> 01:19:33.025
Hoo ha ho kgonehe; re ke ke ra fetola letho mona.

01:19:33.025 --> 01:19:37.226
Re ka e fedisa feela, mme re e
fedise kannete ntle le ho e nkela sebaka!

01:19:37.226 --> 01:19:44.532
Baahi ha ba hloke letho la tsena, hobane ha ho letho la
tsona le kenyang letsoho bophelong, tokolohong, kapa thepeng.

01:19:44.532 --> 01:19:46.347
Tsena ke litekanyetso tse neng li tla be li le kotsing.

01:19:46.347 --> 01:19:55.371
EU ha e so ntlafatse letho ka tekanyo e amehang,
empa e entse hore ntho tsohle di be thata le ho feta.

01:19:57.808 --> 01:20:02.527
Serge, o lutse pela Martin Sellner.

01:20:02.527 --> 01:20:07.908
Ha o dutse mona le yena sethaleng mme o lokela ho bua le yena ka
ho kgutlisetsa batho naheng ya habo bona, na ha o tshabe

01:20:07.908 --> 01:20:13.877
Martin, ya qoswang ka ho batla ho kgutlisetsa batho bohle ba
mebala e fapaneng ya letlalo naheng ya habo bona hanghang?

01:20:13.877 --> 01:20:22.679
Hantle, mona Prague, naheng ea Czechia, che, ka sebele, hobane
ka bobeli re basele moo hajoale. Kahoo a ke ke a ntlosa naheng.

01:20:22.679 --> 01:20:30.567
(...) Haholoholo ha ho tluoa litabeng tse kang lipolotiki, leano
la baphaphathehi, ho khutlela naheng ea heso le kopano, ke lumela

01:20:30.567 --> 01:20:34.739
hore Martin Sellner o tšoeroe ka leeme ka lilemo tse ngata.

01:20:34.739 --> 01:20:42.151
E, mang kapa mang ea balileng ka ho lekana le ea mamelang ka
hloko... 'me mohlankana enoa o boetse o khahleha haholo, ho

01:20:42.151 --> 01:20:49.851
tlameha ho boleloa, o motle, kahoo ha se feela hore o bua
hantle, empa hape o motle – che, empa mehopolo ea hae e hlakile.

01:20:49.851 --> 01:20:56.084
Martin, o ngotse buka ka ho kgutlela naheng ya
heso e atisang ho qotswa le ho buisanwa haholo.

01:20:56.084 --> 01:21:02.429
Likhopolo tsa lona li tsositse lipuisano tse chesang.

01:21:02.429 --> 01:21:06.811
E ne e boetse e le taba ea puisano
lits'ebetsong tsa thibelo ea "Compact".

01:21:06.811 --> 01:21:12.694
Ho bua ka ho kgutlisetsa basele ha habo bona matsatsing ana ho
batla ho tshwana le ho tsamaya hodima khoele e tsesane ya molao.

01:21:12.694 --> 01:21:19.053
Joale, ke dife dintlha tsa hao tsa
sehlooho? Kakaretso e kgutshwane ke ena.

01:21:19.053 --> 01:21:24.541
Nka bua ka sena ka botelele, nka ngola buka e feletseng ka sona,
'me ha e le hantle ke se ke ngotse e 'ngoe, eo, ka lebaka la

01:21:24.541 --> 01:21:29.191
CORRECTIV le toropo ea Potsdam, e ileng ea fetoha e
rekisoang haholo – kahoo boitekong ba bona ba ho nthatafatsa, ba

01:21:29.191 --> 01:21:31.888
ho felisa lentsoe lena, ba ile ba etsa hore le tumme haholo.

01:21:31.888 --> 01:21:37.562
Matsatsing ana, Trump o e sebelisa, Musk o e sebelisa,
ho tloha ho Chega naheng ea Portugal ho isa ho Lega

01:21:37.562 --> 01:21:40.710
naheng ea Italy. Mme metheo ea eona ea mantlha ke efe?

01:21:40.710 --> 01:21:45.076
Ha e le hantle, ke ho khutlela feela boemong bo
tloaelehileng leano la phallano. Sena se bolela

01:21:45.076 --> 01:21:48.048
hore batho ba tla khutlela naheng ea habo bona.

01:21:48.048 --> 01:21:51.970
Hobane ha re tsebe le hore na ho etsahetse eng ho tloha ka 2015.

01:21:51.970 --> 01:21:59.585
Lehlakore la leqeleng le hlahisitse phehisano e hlanyang ka
ho feletseng, e leng: Na phallo e seng molaong ha e molaong?

01:21:59.585 --> 01:22:01.584
Ehlile ke tlolo ea molao. Ho
etsahala'ng ka phalliso e seng molaong?

01:22:01.584 --> 01:22:06.236
Ehlile o tlameha ho kgutlela hae. Ke phetho, ho hlakile haholo.

01:22:06.236 --> 01:22:09.184
Ho buisana ka sena ka lilemo tse leshome ke
bothoto bo feletseng. Mme ho khutlela morao ho

01:22:09.184 --> 01:22:11.517
etsa hore phehisano ena e bonahale e tloaelehile.

01:22:11.517 --> 01:22:15.017
Qetello ea tlhaselo, emisa moferefere oa
boithabiso, Europe e ka har'a qhobosheane.

01:22:15.017 --> 01:22:21.092
Ke tšehetsa ho theha libaka tsa kamohelo le litsi
Afrika Leboea moo batho ba ka phelang ka seriti le

01:22:21.092 --> 01:22:24.514
polokeho, ba ithuta mosebetsi, empa ba se tle Europe.

01:22:24.514 --> 01:22:27.256
Phallo ea basebetsi e seng molaong e tlameha ho emisoa.

01:22:27.256 --> 01:22:30.706
Re hloka moetlo o amohelang bakeng
sa bana ba rona le malapa a rona.

01:22:30.706 --> 01:22:33.889
Hape ho hlokahala hore ho be le kgatello
hodima ditjhaba tse tsamayang ka thoko hore di

01:22:33.889 --> 01:22:35.854
ikamahanye. Emisang ho kenngwa ha Mose-Islam.

01:22:35.854 --> 01:22:41.801
Motheo oa tlhahiso ea ka ea ho khutlisetsa batho ke
ona, e thehiloeng ho boithaopo, litlhahiso ho e-na le

01:22:41.801 --> 01:22:45.203
khatello, le ka tšebelisano-'moho le thuso ea lehae.

01:22:45.203 --> 01:22:48.484
Re buisane pejana hore ho hlokahala
hore ho be le menyetla sebakeng sa heno.

01:22:48.484 --> 01:22:54.889
Mme haeba re ka ntsha dingaka tsohle Syria le
Nigeria, batho ba tla tla ho rona ka tlhaho.

01:22:54.889 --> 01:22:57.905
Re tlameha ho theha menyetla sebakeng sa
heso, re fane ka thuso sebakeng sa heso, empa re

01:22:57.905 --> 01:22:59.553
hlakise hore ha ho na tsela ea ho kena Europe.

01:22:59.553 --> 01:23:04.623
Mme ka morao, eseng ka morao ho dilemo tse pedi, eseng ka morao
ho dilemo tse tharo, empa ka morao ho dilemo tse 15, 20,

01:23:04.623 --> 01:23:09.871
30, Jeremane e tla ba Jeremane ho feta kamoo e leng kateng
kajeno. Mme seo, ka bokgutshwane, ke ho kgutlela ha baahi.

01:23:09.871 --> 01:23:13.580
Re ile ra mpa ra kena literateng tsa Berlin.

01:23:13.580 --> 01:23:22.642
Ke ile ka nka khalepoto e ntle, ka atamela ba fetang ka
tsela, eaba ke re, "Na le ka amohela mojaki ka lapeng la lona?"

01:23:22.642 --> 01:23:25.658
Matlo a polokelo a tletse, matlo a bolulo a tletse.

01:23:25.658 --> 01:23:31.062
Na le ka etsetsa sechaba ntho e itseng ka ho
amohela bafalli bana? – E, e, ruri re ka etsa jwalo!

01:23:31.062 --> 01:23:35.500
Eaba ke ntša Feroz Khan sekhutlong, ka re,
"Ke eena eo. Le ka mo nka le uena hang-hang!"

01:23:35.500 --> 01:23:37.584
Ebe: "Che, che, che, ha re na sebaka!"

01:23:37.584 --> 01:23:43.522
Ehlile, re ne re batla ho sebelisa metlae ho lebisa tlhokomelo
ntlheng ea hore Jeremane le sechaba ba lula

01:23:43.522 --> 01:23:48.769
ba re, 're na le sebaka, re na le sebaka,
re ka amohela bohle'. Che, ha re na sebaka.

01:23:48.769 --> 01:23:53.098
Mme ho hlakile hore pholisi ena yohle ya phudugo e hlotsoe.

01:23:53.098 --> 01:23:56.558
Leha ho le jwalo, ho dula ho phetwa kgafetsa
hore re ka amohela mang kapa mang, ba tla ikopanya.

01:23:56.558 --> 01:24:00.338
Che, ha se bohle ba tla ikamahanya le maemo mona.
Mme re ne re batla ho lebisa tlhokomelo ho seo.

01:24:00.338 --> 01:24:04.499
Mme e bile ntho e kgahlang haholo ho
bona kamoo batho ba arabileng kateng.

01:24:04.499 --> 01:24:06.861
Kahoo, pele ho tsohle, e, ruri, kea kena.

01:24:06.861 --> 01:24:13.309
Eaba Feroz o fihla kannete a apere baki e
ntle le kepisi e ntle: "Lumela, ke mona!"

01:24:13.309 --> 01:24:17.241
Mme ka potlako motho e mong a re, "Tjhe, hoo
ha ho na ho sebetsa, hoo ha ho na ho sebetsa!"

01:24:17.241 --> 01:24:22.411
U nahana hore kotsi e ka ba kholo hakae hore
Boislamo bo atileng Jeremane kapa Austria bo

01:24:22.411 --> 01:24:26.583
ka lebisa litlhaselong tse ling tsa bokhukhuni?

01:24:26.583 --> 01:24:37.747
E, hantle, re ka bona hore lilemong tsa morao tjena ha re sa na
litlhaselo tsena tse kholo joaloka pele, kapa esita le liteko tse

01:24:37.747 --> 01:24:47.612
ngata, empa joale li se li fetohile haholo-holo ho ba litlhaselo
tsa thipa, moo mecha ea litaba ka tlhaho e lekang

01:24:47.612 --> 01:24:56.672
ho e bontša eka ke motho ea kulang kelellong, eka
ha ho na maikutlo a tebileng a tsamaeang le eona.

01:24:56.672 --> 01:25:03.111
Mme ho bohlokwa haholo-holo ho toboketsa le ho
bontsha lebaka la hore na batho bana ba etsa sena.

01:25:03.111 --> 01:25:12.825
Ena ke ntlha ya bohlokwa haholo, hobane boraditaba ka ho kgetheha
ba leka ho pata sena, ho kgothatsa setjhaba e le hore re se ke ra

01:25:12.825 --> 01:25:22.390
tseba semelo sa taba, hore ena ke mohopolo feela, e leng Boislamo
ba dipolotiki, Boislamo, mohopolo o ikemiseditseng ho etsa hore

01:25:22.390 --> 01:25:30.473
batho ba be Maselamo eseng feela Jeremane le Austria, empa le
Yuropa kaofela, le hore lenaneo lena le ntse le

01:25:30.473 --> 01:25:38.501
phethahatsoa ka matla maemong a fapaneng, ho
sebelisoa mekhoa e fapaneng, ho kenyeletsa le bokhukhuni.

01:25:38.501 --> 01:25:47.442
Mme ke bolela hore – re tla e bona Keresemeseng leha ho le joalo
– re se re bona mehato yohle ya tshireletso e matlafatswa mme

01:25:47.442 --> 01:25:55.105
setshwantsho sena se bohloko sa mebaraka ya Keresemese e
tlamehang ho sireletswa ka matla e le hore baahi ba

01:25:55.105 --> 01:26:03.604
tlwaelehileng ba ka ikutlwa ba bolokehile ka tekanyo –
hobane, ehlile, ha ho na ntho e jwalo ka tshireletso ya nnete.

01:26:03.604 --> 01:26:13.991
Nka re re lokela ho kgaotsa ho kgothalletsa morero ona wa
ho kena naheng ntle le ditokomane tsa maeto kapa di-visa.

01:26:13.991 --> 01:26:19.731
Re tlo tlohela ho bapala ka batho, hobane leha e
le motho eo letlalo la hae le lefifi haholo a

01:26:19.731 --> 01:26:23.307
bua le motho eo letlalo la hae le lesoeu haholo...

01:26:23.307 --> 01:26:25.358
… Hantle, ha ke motho ya mmala o bobebe hakaalo …

01:26:25.358 --> 01:26:29.636
Ke nnete, ke nnete, ke tlameha ho bua ka ho
hlaka, hore na bafalli bana ba fumana tsela

01:26:29.636 --> 01:26:32.183
ea bona joang ho ea Jeremane, ho ea Europe?

01:26:32.183 --> 01:26:37.911
E, ha ba eme meeling ea rona ka litanka ba
re, bulang moeli, ho seng joalo re tla thunya.

01:26:37.911 --> 01:26:45.897
E, batho bana ba ile ba dumellwa ka boomo ho
kena Europe, ho kena Jeremane; ba ile ba hohelwa.

01:26:45.897 --> 01:26:51.972
Ke ne ke le Democratic Republic of Congo libeke tse peli feela
tse fetileng, mme hape ho na le marangrang a ho rekisa

01:26:51.972 --> 01:26:57.954
bana ka sekhukhu moo a tsebang hantle hore na ho na le
thuso e kae ea bana Jeremane, ho lebella eng, joalo-joalo.

01:26:57.954 --> 01:27:03.409
Hantle, ke na le tharollo e bonolo haholo ea ho rarolla
bothata bohle ba bochocho ba boikhathollo le phallo ea batho.

01:27:03.409 --> 01:27:06.482
Ke dumela hore dintho di ka be di fedile
kapele haeba ditsi tsa bohlapelo di ne di ka hahwa

01:27:06.482 --> 01:27:08.807
feela pela matlo a manobonobo a boradipolotiki.

01:27:08.807 --> 01:27:11.510
Seo se ka rarolloa kapele haholo, empa ntle le motlae.

01:27:11.510 --> 01:27:15.953
Ke mohato oa pele feela, e leng phetoho ea
lintlha tse susumetsang le tse hulehang.

01:27:15.953 --> 01:27:18.927
Ke nnete, jwalo ka ha o boletse,
dikgothatso tsohle tsa hore batho ba tle mona di

01:27:18.927 --> 01:27:20.804
lokela ho emisiwa. Ke bolela, re hokae, ka kopo?

01:27:20.804 --> 01:27:26.091
Batho ba tloha Bangladesh ba tla Libya mme ba lefa barwebi hore
ba fihle Europe – seo ha se amane le ho baleha linaha tsa

01:27:26.091 --> 01:27:31.535
habo bona, ke phallo ea moruo hobane re theha menyetla
mona. Ehlile, kaofela ha bona ba tlameha ho tloha hang-hang.

01:27:31.535 --> 01:27:37.168
Bafalli ba seng molaong ba tlang mona ka ho
se molaong le bona ba tlameha ho tsamaya.

01:27:37.168 --> 01:27:40.782
Mme seo se bolela bohle ba kentseng naha ka mokgwa o seng
molaong, ehlile. Mang kapa mang ya ka kentseng naha ka

01:27:40.782 --> 01:27:42.912
mokgwa o seng molaong a ka tswa hape ka mokgwa o molaong.

01:27:42.912 --> 01:27:46.525
Le nna ke fumana sena se qabola haholo – sechaba sa
mapheo a leqeleng: "Ha ho letho leo re ka le etsang

01:27:46.525 --> 01:27:48.735
ka phallo e kholo ea batho, re tlameha ho bula meeli."

01:27:48.735 --> 01:27:50.587
Ehlile, seo se bolela hore dimilione di tla tla mona.

01:27:50.587 --> 01:27:55.209
Empa ho nkuoa eka ho leleka motho e mong
le e mong ke ho hloa Thaba ea Everest.

01:27:55.209 --> 01:27:57.357
Ho hlokahala ditharollo tse bonolo le tse hlakileng.

01:27:57.357 --> 01:28:03.010
Ho tloha ka 1945, re ntse re phela moetlong ona oa ho
ikutloa re le molato. E. Rona, re le Majeremane, rea qoswa.

01:28:03.010 --> 01:28:06.205
Re tlameha ho amohela batho hobane
ke mosebetsi oa rona ho etsa joalo.

01:28:06.205 --> 01:28:09.897
Ha re na boikarabello bona! Ha re
tlamehe ho amohela mang kapa mang.

01:28:09.897 --> 01:28:15.214
Re ka amohela batho ba hlokang, ba
ikamahanyang le maemo, ba lebohang ho fumana lehae la

01:28:15.214 --> 01:28:19.346
bobeli mona. Mme ba, ka ho fetola, ba re bontša:

01:28:19.346 --> 01:28:21.885
Kea leboha ka ho mpamela, ke tla ikamahanya le maemo mona!

01:28:21.885 --> 01:28:27.689
Mme haeba wena ka boyena, jwalo ka nna mohlala, o na le nalane ya
lelapa, ho kenyeletsa le bajaki ba ileng ba tla Jeremane, ba

01:28:27.689 --> 01:28:32.663
ithutileng puo mona, ba ileng ba tlameha ho sebetsa, ba sa kang
ba fuwa letho mahala... Ba ne ba fuwa folete

01:28:32.663 --> 01:28:36.849
e nyenyane haholo, moo ba bang ba
tsheletseng ba neng ba robala ka phaposing e le nngwe.

01:28:36.849 --> 01:28:42.697
Ba ile ba iphahamisa mme ba ntse ba rata le ho
hlompha naha ena. Mme seo ha se etsahale kajeno.

01:28:42.697 --> 01:28:45.978
Mme nka bolela feela hore sena se tswa moetlong ona wa ho
ikutlwa o le molato, mme re tlameha ho itokolla ho ona.

01:28:45.978 --> 01:28:52.050
Ha se mosebetsi oa rona ho amohela bohle
mona, 'me ka sebele eseng ho pholosa lefatše.

01:28:52.050 --> 01:28:57.509
Mme kgothatso ya rona ya pele ke ho re haeba le
leboha sena, haeba le re bontsha hore le a ikamahanya,

01:28:57.509 --> 01:29:00.405
jwale re tla le amohela ka thabo. Mme hoo ke ntho e ntle.

01:29:00.405 --> 01:29:04.804
Empa feela ho na le batho ba bangata
haholo ba sa ikamahanyeng le sebaka mona.

01:29:04.804 --> 01:29:08.314
Mme ke nka seo e le tlokotsi e kgolo haholo.

01:29:08.314 --> 01:29:18.906
Mme nna, "bomo e ntsho" ya tswang Congo, "Leopard", e, ke
batla ho phatlalatsa sebete sa ka ho batho ba Jeremane, ho ba

01:29:18.906 --> 01:29:24.714
bolella hore ba se ke ba tshaba. Tshabo ke molekane ya mobe.

01:29:24.714 --> 01:29:32.256
Ke tlile Europe ke le ngoana wa phallo ya ntoa ho
tswa Democratic Republic of Congo, ka iphumana, mme ka

01:29:32.256 --> 01:29:36.651
ithuta ho rata naha ya lona. Bana ba ka ke Majeremane.

01:29:36.651 --> 01:29:42.038
Jwale ke itokiseditse ho sebetsa le lona
letsoho le letsoho ho phethahatsa morero ona.

01:29:42.038 --> 01:29:45.768
Mme ke sona seo ke batlang ho se buella selemong se tlang.

01:29:48.910 --> 01:29:54.444
Ho lokile haholo, Stefan Magnet, moamoheli oa
ketsahalo ena, eo motho a ka reng, e kholo haholo –

01:29:54.444 --> 01:29:58.024
Alternative WEF ea bobeli e se e tšoaretsoe mona Prague.

01:29:58.024 --> 01:30:03.162
Liphanele li felile, ho bile le lipuisano
tse ngata, le palo e makatsang ea batho ba

01:30:03.162 --> 01:30:06.303
bohlokoa haholo bao re kopaneng le bona mona.

01:30:06.303 --> 01:30:09.546
U joang? Na u kgotsofetse ke sephetho?

01:30:09.546 --> 01:30:12.900
Ke kgotsofetse ho feta tekano,
hobane tsohle di tsamaile hantle haholo.

01:30:12.900 --> 01:30:16.275
Ho ne ho se diketsahalo tse kgolo,
ho ne ho se diketso tse sitisang.

01:30:16.275 --> 01:30:22.388
Libui kaofela li ile tsa tla, tsa fana ka lipuo tsa
tsona, 'me tsa phelisana ka khotso le ka kutloano.

01:30:22.388 --> 01:30:27.903
Ho bile le khang sethaleng, ehlile, e leng seo re se batlang.
Seo se lokile – ho bile betere ho feta selemong sa pele.

01:30:27.903 --> 01:30:32.009
Mme ke imolohile haholo hore ebe re
atlehile, ka kutlwisiso ya nnete ya lentswe.

01:30:32.009 --> 01:30:36.441
Mme ke ikokobeditse haholo ebile ke leboha hore ebe re na le ba
kenyang letsoho ba bangata ba hlwahlwa, le balekane

01:30:36.441 --> 01:30:40.000
ba mecha ya phatlalatso ba hlwahlwa ba fanang ka
ditlaleho mona ka mokgwa o fapaneng le o tletseng boitlamo.

01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:46.005
Ke thabile haholo hore ebe re kopane mona mme hore
jwale re phethile sena ka bokgabane ka lekgetlo la bobedi.

01:30:46.005 --> 01:30:52.402
Hantle haholo. Stefan, lepetjo la hao le ne le
kenyeletsa polelo: "Ho tloha nyatsong ho isa matleng."

01:30:52.402 --> 01:30:56.855
Na o ka hlalosa lentsoe 'matla' hanyane, hore re
utloisise hore na o bua ka matla a mofuta ofe mona?

01:30:56.855 --> 01:31:02.077
E, ke boetse ke boletse mantsweng a ka a ho
kwala hore taba ke ho kopanya boikemisetso ba rona.

01:31:02.077 --> 01:31:08.344
Hore ha re dumellana ho phehella sepheo, ha
re batla ho ntšetsa pele ntlha e tšoanetseng,

01:31:08.344 --> 01:31:11.272
re ka hlahisa MATLA. Mme ke sona se re amang.

01:31:11.272 --> 01:31:20.142
Taba ke ho bua ka ditharollo tse bonahalang le mehopolo e tiileng,
le ho ipehela dipheo tseo re ka sebeletsang ho tsona mmoho.

01:31:20.142 --> 01:31:24.172
Mme testamente e kopanetsweng, e
hlophisitsweng, e ka sutumetsang dithaba.

01:31:24.172 --> 01:31:31.823
Re ho bone ka COVID-19, moo batho ba makgolo a dikete, qetellong
e leng dimilione, ba ileng ba re, ha re batle ho

01:31:31.823 --> 01:31:38.875
qobellwa kalafong ya dijini, ha re batle ho
entwa, re batla botlalo ba mmele, re batla tokoloho.

01:31:38.875 --> 01:31:45.708
Mme seo se ile sa etsa hore boipelaetso bo hole, bo
matlafale, ka ho se mamele melao ho etsahala hohle.

01:31:45.708 --> 01:31:48.719
Mme jwale re batla hore ho se be le ntwa Europe.

01:31:48.719 --> 01:31:54.420
Ha re batle ho sebediswa bakeng sa Ursula von der Leyen
kapa Jens Spahn kapa hore na dipopi tsena di bitswa eng.

01:31:54.420 --> 01:32:01.829
Ha re batle ho thetswa ke folaga e putswa ya dinaledi ya European
Union; ho ena le hoo, jwaloka ka coronavirus, re batla

01:32:01.829 --> 01:32:08.668
ho phela ka boipuso le tokoloho mme ha re batle ho
dumella boradipolotiki bana ho re kenya ntweng ka potlako.

01:32:08.668 --> 01:32:11.785
Ke thato e tloaelehileng eo re neng re batla ho e hlahisa mona.

01:32:11.785 --> 01:32:18.197
Mme ke nahana hore seo se fihletswe ka katleho, hape
se bontsha bashebelli ba lapeng hore re dumellana.

01:32:18.197 --> 01:32:22.486
Ha re batle ntoa; jwale re kopanya matla ho e
thibela hore e se ke ya etsahala selemong se tlang.

01:32:22.486 --> 01:32:27.947
Hantle haholo. Hape o kopantse batho ba
bangata ba fapaneng mabapi le taba ena.

01:32:27.947 --> 01:32:31.229
Ntoa e ka bang teng Europe e ka thibeloa joang?

01:32:31.229 --> 01:32:37.195
Na le utlwa hore mehato e hlakileng e latelang e se e hlahelletse
ho lona jwalo ka ditsebi tse tswang makaleng a fapaneng?

01:32:37.195 --> 01:32:39.523
Ruri re ithutile lintho tse ngata ho tsoa ho seo.

01:32:39.523 --> 01:32:44.203
Mme kannete, sephetho se le seng se hlakileng sa tekanyo
le puisano ya sehlopha sa ditsebi e bile hore ntwa e

01:32:44.203 --> 01:32:46.904
tlameha, e le kannete, ho bitswa ka lebitso la yona la nnete.

01:32:46.904 --> 01:32:50.310
Ke tlolo ea molao, e mpe, e sehlōhō, e tšela mali.

01:32:50.310 --> 01:32:53.134
O tlameha ho bontsha ditshwantsho, o tlameha ho bontsha maikutlo.

01:32:53.134 --> 01:32:57.603
Ntoa ha se ntho e sa tšoareheng; ha
e etsahale kae-kae Gaza kapa Syria.

01:32:57.603 --> 01:33:01.397
Che, o tla ho rona mme re lokela ho shoela
sona, re lokela ho tsoa mali bakeng sa sona.

01:33:01.397 --> 01:33:05.797
Re lokela ho lahleheloa ke mala le matsoho a
rona molaong o ka pele oa ntoa, le lapeng.

01:33:05.797 --> 01:33:09.332
Ha dibetsa tse boima tsa tshenyo e
kgolo di wa, di tla ama naha ya habo rona.

01:33:09.332 --> 01:33:14.075
Ebe e tla ama le maqheku, a reng, "Leha ho
le jwalo, ha ke sa tlameha ho ya ntweng."

01:33:14.075 --> 01:33:21.175
Empa le lahlehelwa ke litloholo tsa lona tsa bashanyana le tsa
banana, hobane le barali ba lokela ho qobelloa ka moea oa tekano.

01:33:21.175 --> 01:33:23.939
Mme ntwa e fihla le malapeng a rona; esale e le jwalo.

01:33:23.939 --> 01:33:28.061
Ka 1945, le bona ba tsofetseng ba ile ba
sotleha ka lebaka la ho qhomisoa ka libomo, ho

01:33:28.061 --> 01:33:30.666
lelekoa le ho silafatsoa ha libaka tse halalelang.

01:33:30.666 --> 01:33:35.430
Kahoo e tla ama bohle. Ntoa e mpe, ha re
hloke ntoa e 'ngoe e tšollang mali Europe.

01:33:35.430 --> 01:33:39.812
Kahoo o ka bona hore taba ena e haufi haholo le pelo ya
hao, mme ho bohlokwa haholo hore o fetisetse seo ho

01:33:39.812 --> 01:33:42.519
bashebelli, empa hape le ho bohle bao o ba kopantseng mona.

01:33:42.519 --> 01:33:45.808
Mosebetsi o tswileng matsoho. Re le
thoholetsa hape ka ketsahalo ena.

01:33:45.808 --> 01:33:48.975
Re thabile haholo ho tlaleha ka
sena hape re tla akaretsa liphanele.

01:33:48.975 --> 01:33:53.676
Mohlomong ho moshebelli, ha a bona hore ho
na le litsebi, batho ba nang le tšusumetso.

01:33:53.676 --> 01:33:57.652
Ka 'nete u kopantse bohle, ho tloha ho batho ba nang
le tšusumetso ho isa ho bakhethoa ba bo-chancellor.

01:33:57.652 --> 01:34:02.408
Hoo hoa makatsa. Nako e 'ngoe o tlameha ho mpolella hore na o
ho entse joang ha re ntse re noa biri. Empa ho hotle haholo.

01:34:02.408 --> 01:34:07.654
Potso hona joale ke hore, o ne o tla reng ho
moshebelli? Haeba o ne o ka bua feela ka phaposing

01:34:07.654 --> 01:34:10.775
moo ba lutseng teng hona joale, ba o shebelletse.

01:34:10.775 --> 01:34:16.000
Motho ka mong a ka etsa eng ho thibela ntoa e ka bang teng?

01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.894
E, ke na le maikutlo a hlakileng hore re fana feela ka kgothatso.

01:34:19.894 --> 01:34:27.524
Re batla ho bontša hore batho ba bangata ba tsebahalang, bao
bashebelli ba seng ba ba tloaetse ho tloha sefuteng sa coronavirus

01:34:27.524 --> 01:34:35.106
le mananeong a mang a mefuta-futa ea mecha ea phatlalatso
– moo batho ba nang le tšepo – re kopanela hammoho ntoeng ena.

01:34:35.106 --> 01:34:38.075
Re e etsa. Re etella pele. Re nka boikarabello.

01:34:38.075 --> 01:34:42.485
Re tla fana ka menyetla e mengata e fapaneng
moo bashebelli le bona ba ka nkang karolo, 'me e

01:34:42.485 --> 01:34:44.403
meng ea eona e tla ba e bonolo ho kena-kenana.

01:34:44.403 --> 01:34:48.740
Rea tseba hantle hore hase bohle ba ka kgonang ho
theha kanale ya thelevishene e jwalo ka Kla.TV kapa AUF1.

01:34:48.740 --> 01:34:52.730
Hase bohle ba ka hlophisang boipelaetso bo boholo
bo nang le batho ba likete-kete kapa ba ba 'muelli

01:34:52.730 --> 01:34:55.540
oa molao ea ngolang litsebiso tsa molao tse bohlale.

01:34:55.540 --> 01:34:58.698
Empa motho e mong le e mong a ka etsa ho hong.
Motho e mong le e mong a ka aba lipampitšana. E,

01:34:58.698 --> 01:35:00.300
motho e mong le e mong a ka manamisa litikara.

01:35:00.300 --> 01:35:05.375
Motho e mong le e mong a ka hlakisa hore na ho
kotsing hona joale har'a ba malapa a bona le ba

01:35:05.375 --> 01:35:08.322
lelapa, mosebetsing kapa tafoleng ea bona ea kamehla.

01:35:08.322 --> 01:35:12.619
E, ba busang ba batla ho pata ditlolo
tsa bona tsa molao ka ho qala ntwa.

01:35:12.619 --> 01:35:14.981
Mme ba batla ho re sebedisa, jwaloka kamehla.

01:35:14.981 --> 01:35:17.200
Jwale re diphaphatha tse hodima boto ya chess.

01:35:17.200 --> 01:35:20.638
Ba lokela ho bolaoa feela ka sabole. Mme re tlameha ho re: Che!

01:35:20.638 --> 01:35:24.831
Mme moshebelli e mong le e mong o lokela ho
ipotsa, nka etsang? Na ke batla ho ema ka pele?

01:35:24.831 --> 01:35:27.526
Mohlomong che. E, ha se batho ba bangata ba batlang seo.

01:35:27.526 --> 01:35:31.309
Joale mohlomong nka buisana ka hona le metswalle ya
ka. E, mohlomong le hona ha ke batle ho etsa jwalo?

01:35:31.309 --> 01:35:35.715
Ebe ke aba lifolera ka sephiri bosiu
kapa ke kgomaretsa ditshwantsho kae kae.

01:35:35.715 --> 01:35:41.974
Ha kereke e ka kgutla mme ya re ente ke tokoloho, ntwa
ke tokoloho, ke tla kgomaretsa setikara monyako wa kereke

01:35:41.974 --> 01:35:45.376
se reng: Tjhe ho ntwa! E ho kgotso! – leha ho le jwang.

01:35:45.376 --> 01:35:47.868
Kapa nka fana ka monehelo. Nka tshehetsa.

01:35:47.868 --> 01:35:51.593
Nka ba moatisa. Nka khoasolla mananeo ebe
ke a kenya hape marang-rang ho qoba

01:35:51.593 --> 01:35:54.150
thibelo ea litaba mecheng ea litaba tsa sechaba.

01:35:54.150 --> 01:35:56.900
Ho na le menyetla e sekete. E mong le e mong o
lokela ho nahana ka seo a ka se kenyang letsoho.

01:35:56.900 --> 01:36:03.505
Haeba re mpa re ema feela re sa etse letho selemong se tlang sa
2026, ha ho ntse ho tla be ho kgonahala ho etsa ho hong,

01:36:03.505 --> 01:36:10.224
hobane kamora moo ba tla tiisa mekgwa mme ho ke ke ha
hlola ho eba le menyetla e mengata ya kganyetso ya kgotso.

01:36:10.224 --> 01:36:15.302
Ba sa etseng letho hona joale, hamorao ba tla tlameha ho ipotsa
hore na ke hobaneng ba sa ka ba etsa letho ha e se e sa khonehe.

01:36:15.302 --> 01:36:19.314
Hona joale ke nako ea ho nka khato! Boitseko bo
bolela ho ba mafolofolo, 'me e mong le e mong o tlameha

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ho ba mafolofolo ka tsela e itseng bakeng sa khotso.

01:36:21.910 --> 01:36:28.017
Hoo ke polelo e matla ruri! Kea leboha haholo ka puisano ena le
ka ketsahalo ena kaofela. Re le tshehetsa ka pelo

01:36:28.017 --> 01:36:34.622
yohle mme re tla le ema nokeng lenaneong lohle ho
netefatsa hore kgotso ena e bolokeha kannete. Kea leboha.

01:36:34.622 --> 01:36:38.974
Re hasa ka kotloloho mona kopanong ea bobeli ea A-WEF.
Hona joale re na le Elias Sasek mona le rona ka kotloloho.

01:36:38.974 --> 01:36:42.383
Mme Elia, o ne o se o le mona maobane, o fihlile pele.

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Le ile la ngangisana ka litaba tsa bohlokoa haholo moo sehlopheng
se senyenyane, sephiring seo re neng re se na phihlello ho

01:36:49.717 --> 01:36:53.580
sona... Na re ka le botsa hore na le ile la buisana ka eng moo?

01:36:53.580 --> 01:36:57.840
Na o na le mohlala? O ka re bolella ntho
e ka 'nang eaba e entsoe qeto maobane?

01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:00.220
Re ka thabela haholo ho tseba.

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E, dipuisano tsa maobane di ne di kgahla haholo.

01:37:04.117 --> 01:37:08.237
Mme re ne re boetse re dumellana ka ntlha e le nngwe:

01:37:08.237 --> 01:37:13.231
E 'ngoe ea litšokelo tse kholo ka ho fetisisa hajoale ke
efe, ho kenyeletsa le mokhatlo oa tokoloho, boemo ba thuto

01:37:13.231 --> 01:37:15.905
boo re nang le bona, le mecha ea phatlalatso e lokolohileng?

01:37:15.905 --> 01:37:23.192
Mme ra dumellana hore sena ke ho thibela ka sephiring, hore
di-algorithm tsa AI di mpa di qhaqholla sohle seo re se

01:37:23.192 --> 01:37:31.071
behang inthaneteng ka ditekanyetso tsa tsona mme ha di sa se
phatlalatsa, ka hoo di fokotsa phihlello ya sona ka boqapi.

01:37:31.071 --> 01:37:38.698
Mme kgahlanong le tekanyo ena – jwalo ka ha bohle re bone – ntho
e le nngwe feela e bohlokwa ke ho ikopanya, ho sebetsa

01:37:38.698 --> 01:37:46.027
mmoho, ho beha boikakaso ba rona ka thoko le ho phunya sekoahelo
sena mmoho, kapa ho phunya thibelo ena ya sephiring mmoho.

01:37:46.027 --> 01:37:52.900
Mme ke fumane ho kgahla haholo kamoo re ileng ra dumellana,
mohlala, mats'olong a kopanetsweng, ho lokisetsa

01:37:52.900 --> 01:38:00.042
mananeo a mangata haholo ka sebopeho sa A4 e le mongolo e le
hore batho ba ka a hatisa mme ba ba baabi ka bo bona.

01:38:00.042 --> 01:38:05.760
Kahoo re bona hore selikalikoe se koala, re
khutlela ho tsa khale, ho se se nang marang-rang.

01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.990
Jwale re se re le pele haholo ka Kla.TV Offline.

01:38:08.990 --> 01:38:14.810
Seo re qetileng lilemo re se etsa le S&G, e leng
ho hatisa lintho ka borona, ho li aba le ho aha

01:38:14.810 --> 01:38:17.953
marangrang a kabo, le sona se tumme haholo-holo.

01:38:17.953 --> 01:38:25.408
Mme ke dumela hore sena se tla tswela pele ho hola haholo
dilemong tse tlang, mme ke letsolo kapa tharollo e

01:38:25.408 --> 01:38:33.100
ntle haholo ya ho lwantsha kgatello ena ya
sephiring, hobane e mpa e fokotsa phihlello ya dijithale.

01:38:33.100 --> 01:38:36.871
Hoa hlolla! Mang kapa mang ea u tsebang o tseba hore
hajoale u laola ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ho Kla.TV

01:38:36.871 --> 01:38:38.877
lefapheng la IT le hore hape ke uena ea e thehileng.

01:38:38.877 --> 01:38:45.106
Le bile le selemo se seng hape se matla haholo, ka ntshetsopele e
ncha e ngata – le sa tswa ho bolela, Kla.TV

01:38:45.106 --> 01:38:50.681
Offline, tsamaiso e se e sebetsa, e leng hape
mokgwa wa kgokahano o sa itshetlehang inthaneteng.

01:38:50.681 --> 01:38:53.260
Na seo se sebetsa? Na o se o na le maikutlo bakeng sa bashebelli?

01:38:53.260 --> 01:38:59.510
E, hoa makatsa. Haufinyane tjena re entse
tlaleho mme ra hlahloba khauta, mme jwale ho

01:38:59.510 --> 01:39:03.012
na le dinaha tse fetang 40 tse nkang karolo.

01:39:03.012 --> 01:39:07.645
Ho a makatsa kamoo taba ena e ntseng e
fetoha, mme mona mantsiboya ana, le hona, ke ile

01:39:07.645 --> 01:39:09.984
ka botswa ka morero ona makgetlo a mmalwa.

01:39:09.984 --> 01:39:21.184
Ka lehlohonolo, re eteletse pele ho phahamisa tlhokomeliso,
mme ba bang ba ntse ba nahana ka ho fana ka merero e tšoanang.

01:39:21.184 --> 01:39:27.045
Mme sena sohle se tla hola, empa jwalo ka ha ba
bolela, ho se be inthaneteng ke tlhaho e ntjha.

01:39:27.045 --> 01:39:29.959
Sena se tla hlola kapa se tlameha ho hlola.

01:39:29.959 --> 01:39:36.410
Mme o ne o ka bona dipuisanong hore ho kopana ka seqo
ho ne ho fapane ka ho feletseng le dikopano tsa

01:39:36.410 --> 01:39:40.452
marang-rang tseo re bileng le tsona selemong se fetileng.

01:39:40.452 --> 01:39:49.592
Ho ne ho na le moea o mofuthu, kutloisiso e tšoanang le
temoho ea hore re ka atleha nakong ena feela ha re le 'moho.

01:39:49.592 --> 01:39:55.153
Ho lokile haholo! E, ke yona feela tsela ya ho e etsa, mme ruri e
ne e se bonolo ho bohle ho dumela hore sohle seo o se

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hlophisitseng bakeng sa sena se ntse se sebetsa ntle le
inthanete ka dihlahiswa tsohle mme e ntse e le mahala.

01:40:00.283 --> 01:40:06.809
Kapa maikutlo e ne e le afe? Ke hlokomela
batho ba sa kholoeng, ba sa e nahaneng.

01:40:06.809 --> 01:40:16.064
E, ho thata haholo-holo ho nahana haeba o sa tsebe, haeba o
sa tsebe hore na re sebetsa 'moho joang le hore na ke eng

01:40:16.064 --> 01:40:21.310
se re susumetsang, boitlamo ba rona – haeba o sa tsebe seo.

01:40:21.310 --> 01:40:26.319
Ke itse re fana ka hard drive ho susumetsa batho le ho
ba khothaletsa hore ba e fetisetse ho ba bang ba babedi.

01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:28.936
Hoo ha ho nahanehe, le ho rona hoo ha ho nahanehe.

01:40:28.936 --> 01:40:31.734
Ho na le ntho e le 'ngoe feela e lokelang ho
etsoa: o tlameha ho tla ho re bona, o

01:40:31.734 --> 01:40:33.575
ikopanye le rona sebakeng sa heno, 'me o re tsebe.

01:40:33.575 --> 01:40:35.270
Mme ho buleha mafatshe a matjha ka ho feletseng!

01:40:35.270 --> 01:40:41.706
Mme ke utlwela batho bohloko haholo ha o ba bolella dintho
tsena, hore e tshwana le ntho e tswang polaneteng e nngwe.

01:40:41.706 --> 01:40:44.651
Empa batho ba lokela ho re tseba ruri, ba re etele.

01:40:44.651 --> 01:40:51.061
Mme e teng, lefatshe lena le letjha le se nang tjhelete, moo
tjhelete e seng yona ntlha-kgolo, empa batho

01:40:51.061 --> 01:40:56.380
ba inehetseng ka pelo yohle ho e fetisetsa ho
baahisani ba bona le ho ba teng bakeng sa bona.

01:40:56.380 --> 01:41:04.467
Mme ke thabetse kgatelopele e nngwe le e nngwe e
etsahalang le e tlang ho etsahala lefapheng la thuto ya mahala.

01:41:04.467 --> 01:41:10.153
Hoo ke ntho e ikhethang. Ha ke bua 'nete, ha ke
so fumane lihlahisoa tse tjena leha e le ho

01:41:10.153 --> 01:41:13.395
"Welt mit Geld" – hore ba fana ka ntho e kang ena.

01:41:13.395 --> 01:41:17.814
U ntse u fana ka dihlahiswa tsena ho bohle
kgafetsa, hape o thusa ho netefatsa hore

01:41:17.814 --> 01:41:20.896
mokgatlo wohle wa tlhokomediso o ka di rua molemo.

01:41:20.896 --> 01:41:22.115
Hoo ke hantle haholo.

01:41:22.115 --> 01:41:26.748
Ke leboha haholo ka matsapa a lona kaofela,
boitlamo ba lona, le nako eo le e sebelisitseng.

01:41:26.748 --> 01:41:30.706
Kea tseba hore o batloa hohle, mme ka
thabo ke tla o lokolla hape hanghang.

01:41:30.706 --> 01:41:34.568
Kea leboha, mme ha nka thusa ka tsela efe kapa
efe mme re ka sebetsa mmoho ho etsa phapang,

01:41:34.568 --> 01:41:36.921
ka sebele boikitlaetso bohle bo tla ba bohlokwa!

01:41:36.921 --> 01:41:39.610
Hantle haholo, Elias, hei!

01:41:39.610 --> 01:41:42.089
"Ho na le lihlopha tsa khanyetso metseng eohle."

01:41:42.089 --> 01:41:44.474
Haeba e se teng, he e ke ke ya kgonahala.

01:41:44.474 --> 01:41:53.804
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