WEBVTT

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Emva kweentsuku ezimbini ezichukumisayo apha kwi-Alternative WEF
ePrague, i-Kla.TV ngoku inikezela

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isishwankathelo samathuba abaluleke kakhulu kunye
neentetho ezichulumancisayo. Hlalani nibukele.

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Andiyiqondanga kakuhle isishunqulelo esithi A-WEF.

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Bendisithi mhlawumbi yindlela enye
kwiForam yezoQoqosho yeHlabathi kaGeorge Soros.

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Kulungile, sendisele ndilungiselele isibubulo sentetho yam.

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Zihlobo zam ezithandekayo, bantu endicinga ukuba
ningabahlobo bakaGeorge Soros kodwa endinaniqwalasela ngembeko.

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Kulungile kwaye kuyavuyisa kuthi ukuba nikhethe
iPrague, idolophu yam yokuzalwa, idolophu

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endichithe kuyo ubomi bam bonke, njengendawo yenkomfa yenu.

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Kwelinye icala, kubonisa ukuba iPrague ifanelekile
kwesi siganeko ngeli xesha, nto leyo engumqondiso

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wenkululeko ekhoyo ngokwentelekiso kwilizwe lethu.

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Kwelinye icala, ibonisa enye into, ukunqongophala
kwenkululeko eJamani, into endiyibona iyingozi kakhulu.

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Oku kuyaxhalabisa, kungekuphela nje
kumaJamani, kodwa nakuthi apha eCzech Republic.

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Kuthi, iJamani ibisoloko ingummelwane wethu
obaluleke kakhulu, obaluleke

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ngokukhethekileyo, kwaye omkhulu kunabo bonke kwimbali yonke.

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Nokuba abasoloko benobuhlobo.

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Ngale ngongoma, ndiyayithatha njengento entle ingcamango yakho
yokutyikitya isibhengezo esidibeneyo esinesihloko esithi "Yonke

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into ngoXolo" apha ePrague namhlanje – ingakumbi xa
kujongwe iziganeko zalo nyaka eJamani ezilandele unyulo kwaye,

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ngokoluvo lwam, uFriedrich Merz nokukhuthaza kwakhe imfazwe.

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Umsitho wanamhlanje kufuneka usinike iingcinga ezintsha
nezicacileyo esinokuzisebenzisa kwimisebenzi yethu yezopolitiko.

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Ndinqwenelela iingxoxo ezakhayo nezizuzisayo,
kwaye enkosi kwakhona ngomema wakho

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nangokuqwalasela amagama am namhlanje. Enkosi kakhulu.

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Ngelixa abaxhasi bombutho wehlabathi besasaza ipropaganda
yemfazwe, bethetha ngokuthathwa kwempahla nokutshabalalisa

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inkululeko yokuthetha, sifuna ukwenza umzamo okhethekileyo
ngolu suku ukukhusela idemokhrasi, inkululeko noxolo.

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Nani, babukeli abathandekayo ekhaya nakwizikrini
zenu, nani nina nina apha kwiziko lenkomfa, niyazi

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ukuba inkululeko nodemokhrasi asizomdlalo wababukeli.

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Inkululeko kufuneka ikhuselwe, ilwele, kwaye
yile nto siza kuyenza kunye apha kule mpelaveki.

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Manenekazi nobangeni apha eholweni, babukeli
abathandekayo ekhaya phambi kwezikrini zenu.

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Uluntu lwethu lwamanyana ngexesha
likaxakeka lesizwe lentsholongwane ye-corona.

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Phantsi koxinzelelo, saqonda injongo efanayo, siza
kwiindlela ezahluke kakhulu, saza sadibana ngenxa yale njongo.

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ICorona isibonisile ukuba amalungelo ethu
aqinisekisiweyo obuntu nawabemi axabisa malini

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xa kuziwa ekutyhaleni i-ajenda: akukho nto.

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Noko ke, ubhubhane we-coronavirus
ukwabonise indlela esomelele ngayo xa sidibana.

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Kwaye ngoku, ekupheleni kuka-2025,
sijongene nomceli-mngeni omtsha ngokupheleleyo.

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Kuba eYurophu, eYurophu kuza kubakho omnye
umlo. Ubuncinci, yiloo nto esixelelwayo.

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U-Ursula von der Leyen uthetha
ngokukhululekileyo ngeqoqosho lemfazwe.

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AmaBritane, phantsi koKeir Starmer, azimisele
ukuba sibe sisizwe esilungele ukulwa nesixhobileyo.

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Kwaye uMphathiswa wezoKhuselo waseJamani uBoris
Pistorius ufuna ukuba kulungele imfazwe ngo-2029.

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Ingxelo esemthethweni yajika ngokupheleleyo.

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Ngesiquphe, imfazwe nobundlobongela, izixhobo
neetanki ziphinde zaba yintetho yentando yezopolitiko.

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Kwanamagama ebisele ekhohliswe amashumi
eminyaka, anjengalelakwa, ngoku aphinda asetyenziswa,

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ukuba ubuyivile intetho kaJens Spahn ngoNovemba.

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Kufuneka silwele ilizwe lethu, utsho.

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Kwaye seso isizathu sokuba ufaneleke kwinkonzo
yasemkhosini, seso isizathu sokuba ujoyine imikhosi exhobileyo.

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Ewe, mhlawumbi ngenxa yelizwe lethu.
Kodwa, Mnu Jens Spahn, awungelizwe lethu.

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Kwaye asiyi kungena mfazwe ngenxa kaSpahn no von der Leyen.

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Kwaye asifuni kukhohliswa luhlobo
lwe-EU okanye ukubona ilizwe lethu litshisa.

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Sithi hayi emfazweni ngazo zonke
iindlela nangaphandle kokuthandabuza.

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Yiyo loo nto sinikezela inkqubo yalo nyaka
ye-Second Alternative WEF ekugxileni kumbuzo:

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Singaluthintela njani udabi eYurophu?

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Yiloo nto iphaneli yokuqala yanamhlanje ithetha
ngayo: Cinga uxolo, phila ngendlela esempilweni.

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Iindwendwe zethu kolu chungechunge ngabo bonke oogqirha,
iingcali zonyango ezinentshiseko, kwaye bonke batyhala indlela

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yonyango ejongana nomntu iphela ngaphezu kwayo yonke enye into.

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Kuba bona, njengathi sonke, bayazi kakuhle
ukuba umzimba, ingqondo, umoya kunye neempawu

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zomzimba zonke zinxulumene ngokungenakwahlulwa.

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Sonke siye seva ngale nto, kodwa ithetha ntoni kanye kanye
kwindlela esiphila ngayo, ingakumbi xa sijonga iminyaka neenyanga

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ezinzima ezizayo, esibona ukuba zizisa imiceli mngeni emikhulu?

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Ngoko ke, singahlala njani
sisempilweni ngokwenene kule maxesha anzima?

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Impilo ayisiyondaweni, kodwa yinkqubo eqhubekayo yokudala
umvisiswano kwinqanaba lomzimba, leemvakalelo nelengqondo.

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Kwinqanaba lomzimba, sifumana imvisiswano
ngokutya okunesondlo nokuzilolonga rhoqo.

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Siyakha ngokweemvakalelo ngokuqaphela nokusombulula iingxabano,
kwaye siyayiqonda ngengqondo ngokwazi ukuba singoobani.

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Unyango lwamayeza aluqhelekileyo lubona
umzimba kuphela; aluboni ezinye iinzinga.

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Kwaye kuba ibona umzimba kuphela, inokunyanga
ngendlela yomzimba kuphela ize ishiye konke okunye ngaphandle.

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Kwaye oko kwenza amayeza aqhelekileyo angasebenzi kakhulu.

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Andichasanga amayeza asemthethweni; siwafuna,
kodwa anemiqobo yawo kwaye kufuneka andiswe kakhulu.

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Indlela yakho yahluke njani kweyo kagqirha oqhelekileyo?

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Unxulumano kukuba abantu kufuneka bahlale bebhekwa njengabantu
abapheleleyo, kwaye umkhwa kule minyaka ingamashumi adlulileyo

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ubukokuya kwicala lezonyango ezikhethekileyo ngakumbi nangakumbi,
kunye neenkalo ezincinci kakhulu zobungcali, ezithi, xa zijongwe

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zikunye, zingakwazi ngokwenene ukuqonda umntu ngokupheleleyo.

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Kwaye mna, ewe, ndakubona oku ngokucacileyo kuba ndichithe
ubomi bam bobuchwepheshe ndingugqirha wezobuchwepheshe.

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Kwaye amayeza obuchwepheshe, ewe, akavelisi imifanekiso evela
kumphefumlo okanye engqondweni, kodwa avela ngaphakathi emzimbeni,

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kwaye akholelwa ukuba oku kuphela kuya kuyenza ikwazi ukufumana
unobangela wesifo – nto leyo, ewe, engenakwenzeka kwaphela.

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Emva koko cinga ukuba yeyiphi kanye
isixhobo sethu esibaluleke kakhulu kwimpilo?

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Lulala. Kwaye ulala asiyongxaki yomzimba, kwaye
asisosombululo somzimba esinikezelwa ngumzimba wethu, kodwa

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lulala olusempilweni noluphumzayo oluqala engqondweni.

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Kwaye ukuba kukho into engalunganga entloko yethu,
kumphefumlo wethu, okanye kwingqondo yethu, akukho kulala

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koxolo, kwaye kuyanyanzeliswa ngamayeza athile engqondo.

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Nangona kunjalo, ayisiyiyo le isixhobo esinokuqinisekisa
okanye sibuyisele impilo ngokulala iiyure ezininzi yonke imihla.

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Omnye kwababini kuthi ngoku usifa ngenxa yonyango.

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Kwaye ukuba uyayityeshela loo nto, kwaye ngokwenene iyatyeshelwa
kuzo zonke iincwadi ezimalunga nokuphila ixesha elide – imalunga

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nokutya okunempilo, umoya ococekileyo – konke kubalulekile.

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Kodwa ukuba ungayihoyi ukubaluleka kwamayeza,
ayimfuneko ukuze uhlale usempilweni ixesha elide, ke ukutya

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okunempilo nezongezelelo zesondlo azinamsebenzi kwaphela.

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Inyaniso yeyokuba xa ubuza abantu abadala
abaneminyaka engaphezu kwe-100, baza kuthí batye

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izinto ezahluke kakhulu kubo bonke ubomi babo.

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Babe baphila nobomi obwahluke kakhulu, bechitha
ixesha elininzi ngaphandle kwaye bezilolonga kakhulu, kodwa

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bonke bayavuma ukuba babengadibani kangako nonyango.

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Umzimba, ingqondo, umphefumlo – njengoko
benditshilo, ezi zinto azifane zibe yimixholo

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ephambili kumayeza asemgangathweni anamhlanje.

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Ndakha ndafunda isivakalisi esithi: Isigulana
esiphilisiweyo ngumthengi olahlekileyo. Ngamanye

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amazwi, isigulana esiphilisiweyo ngumthengi olahlekileyo.

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Ingaba seso isiseko esingundoqo
senkqubo yethu yesikolo yanamhlanje?

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Ewe, kunjalo. Kwaye le nto uthetha ngayo,
neyaye yakhe yakhankanywa ngaphambili, kukuba

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sisebenza ngaphakathi kwenkqubo yezempilo.

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Asikodwa xa kuziwa kwimpilo, oogqirha njalo njalo.

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Yindlela yokuziphatha esiyithatha
xa sisiya kumakhaya abanye abantu.

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Kwaye kulapho ke kuba yingozi khona xa sizibeka
ezandleni zabanye abantu, kubandakanywa

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noogqirha, umzekelo. Oku kukwangqineke ngokwenzululwazi.

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Isithethi sangaphambili besiyinyani xa sathi, njengelungu
elinye le-MWGFD, oogqirha nabo bayimbangela yokufa,

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njengamayeza amaninzi kunye neziphumo zawo ebezingalindelekanga.

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Ewe, nge-coronavirus, ngoku sikwabonile olo ngenelelo, ingakumbi
kubantu abasempilweni – kwaye nezifo ezinzima,

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xa unyango olunye lunyanzeliswa wonke umntu –
ukuba alusebenzi nje, alulunganga kwaye lunobungozi.

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Ndikhumbula umhlobo wam endixelela kwiminyaka emininzi
eyadlulayo, xa kwazalwa unyana wakhe wokuqala, okanye ngexesha

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lokukhulelwa, wathi, 'Ngenxa kaThixo, bendingazi nokwazi
ukuba ukukhulelwa yeyona nto imbi kakhulu inokwenzeka kumntu.'

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Zeziphi iimeko ezoyikisayo eziboniswa
kubazali abatsha, nakubazali abakhulelweyo?

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Njengengcali yezonyango, uyakwazi njani ukuthomalalisa
uloyiko lwabantu kule meko kanye, uze ubakhokelele

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kwindlela efanelekileyo? Ingaba unayo ifomula yakho eyimfihlo?

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Ewe, mhlawumbi ayisosicwangciso siyimfihlo, kodwa
ndicinga ukuba nawuphi na ugqirha oqondayo

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uxanduva lwakhe akufanelanga ukuba asebenze ngoloyiko.

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Kwaye ukukhulelwa, ewe, sisigaba esiqhelekileyo
ngokupheleleyo ebomini kwaye asisosigulo kwaphela.

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Kwaye ndikwabona ukuba, ngelishwa, kwisifundo sezifo zabasetyhini
nakhathalelweni kwabakhulelweyo, olu qwalaselo lwenziwa

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ngokugqithisileyo, ukuze xa abazali beza nokufunyaniswa ukuba
bakhulelwe, baboniswa zonke iimvavanyo ezikhoyo

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zokuqinisekisa ukuba ingaba umntwana une-Down's syndrome
okanye nayiphi na enye i-trisomy okanye izinto ezinjalo.

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Uqala ngokujonga isiphumo esibi kwangoko, emva koko kwenziwe
iimvavanyo ezininzi kakhulu, kuba

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kusenokwenzeka ukuba umfazi okhulelweyo unohlobo oluthile
lwesifo seswekile esifihlakeleyo njalo njalo.

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Kwaye into eyiyo kanye eqhelekileyo,
eyona nto iqhelekileyo, iyabekwa eludeni.

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Ngoko ke ndicinga ukuba eyona nto ibalulekileyo
kukungoyikisi abafazi abakhulelweyo, ukubabonisa ukuba

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yonke into iqhele ukuba kulungile kwaye ihamba kakuhle.

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Kwaye ndikwacinga ukuba kulungile ukuba abafazi
abaninzi abakhulelweyo, njengoko ndibona ngoku,

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bakhetha indlela yokubeleka eyahluke ngokupheleleyo.

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Ukusukela ngeCorona, abantu bebesacinga ngale nto. Isebe
lezokubeleka alizange liziphakamise kakhulu

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ngexesha leCorona, xa lalityhalela ukuba neenkosikazi
ezikhulelweyo zifake iimaski ngexesha lokubeleka.

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Ndifumene kuyinto embi kakhulu, kucaphukisa kakhulu, ngokwenene.

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Umfazi ufuna phantse yonke imolekyuli
ye-oksijini yena nomntwana azokuzala.

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Kwaye ke kufuneka anxibe imaski!
Ngoko ke abafazi baye bawa ngokwenene.

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Kwaye oko kuye kwenza ukuba le ndlela yonyango lwemveli,
i-obstetrics, ibonakale ngendlela embi kakhulu, kangangokuba

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abantu abaninzi, ngoku ngenxa ye-coronavirus,
baye baqala ukucinga ngendlela esinokujongana

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ngayo nokukhulelwa nokubeleka ngokwahlukileyo.

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Kwaye abaninzi ngoku bakwabeka ithemba labo
koonongogo, into endicinga ukuba ilungile kakhulu.

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Banenkathalo ngakumbi kuphando lwabo.

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Imigama ayisalandelwa ngokuqinileyo.

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Izigulana zikhululeke ngakumbi, zinoxolo ngakumbi ngaphakathi,
kwaye njengengcali yezonyango, ndingakuxhasa kuphela oko.

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Ndibona abantu abaninzi abangoku bazama ukubeleka ekhaya, bekunye
nomelusi okanye kwiziko lokubeleka elingelolomelusi, kwaye

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ndingomnye woogqirha abangathethi nto ingalunganga ngaloo nto,
kodwa endaweni yoko ndikhuthaza izigulane zam ukuba benjenjalo.

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Ndicinga ukuba ukuba sonke besilandelela le mithetho, leyo uYesu
naye wayibumba, umzekelo, wokuba ufanele ukuphatha

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abanye ngendlela ofuna baphathe wena ngayo,
ngoko ubuya kuthetha oko ufuna abanye bakwenzele kona.

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Yiloo nto kanye athethayo kwiNtshumayelo eseNtabeni.

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Yenzani kwabanye njengoko nifuna benjenjalo kuni.

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Kwaye sele iyona mthetho ukususela ekuqaleni: akungayi kubulala.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba oku kukwindalo ebantwini.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba wonke umntu unqwenela uxolo.

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Kufuneka sibuyele kumxholo. Kwaye kusenokufuneka sibe nesibindi
ngakumbi ekuvakaliseni olu mnqweno woxolo, ngokungavumeli

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oosopolitiki bethu bathethe kwaye baphuphe ngokulungela imfazwe.

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Ngubani ofuna loo nto? Ngubani oxhamla kuyo
nangayiphi na indlela? Kufuneka simi

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ngokuqinileyo kule nto kwaye sithethe sigxeke yona.

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Izolo kwiqela lethu, xa sasisandul' ukuqala ukucinga ngento
esinokuyenza ukukhuthaza uxolo, safikelela kwingcinga

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yokuba ngabafazi ababizwayo apha, okanye abafazi abangabantu
boqhagamshelwano ekhaya xa kuziwa kwimicimbi yezempilo.

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Oomama ngabalondolozi bezempilo, oomama ngabalondolozi bobomi.

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Kwaye ndicinga ukuba ingcinga elungileyo iya
kuba yeyokuba abafazi ngoku bathi ngabom ukuba

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asifuni abantwana bethu babingelelwe kwibala ledabi.

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Bangadibana baze benze uhlobo oluthile
lweqela: "Abafazi, oomama, oomakhulu ngenxa yoxolo".

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Ndingacinga ukuba ibiya kuba yinto entle ukuba oko
bekunokwenzeka kulo lonke elaseYurophu, nakwihlabathi jikelele.

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Kufuneka kuchaswe ngamandla oosopolitiki, abalawulwa ngokwenene
liqela labantu abanamandla, yi-mafia yemali,

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ukuthetha ngoko, kwaye abathunywe ukuba balwe imfazwe
nokuba kuthini na. Andithethi oku ndijonge abantu thina.

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Ukuba sonke siyenza le nto kwaye nabantu
abaninzi bayayenza, ndingacinga ukuba ukuxhokonxa

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kwabo imfazwe akuyi kuphumelela njengoko becinga.

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Heiko, ubhale incwadi. Kwiincwadi zakho zamva nje, "Game Over –
Part 2", ubhale, phakathi kwezinye izinto: Uba yile nto uyityayo.

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Ulaye walumkisa ngohlaselo kwi-microbiome yethu.

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Ucinga ukuba sifanele sitye ntoni na okanye
singatyanga yintoni ukuze sihlale sisempilweni?

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Ewe, mhlawumbi inkcazelo emfutshane. Yintoni i-microbiome?

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Esi sinene luluntu lwezinto eziphilayo
ezincinci eziluncedo ngaphakathi komntu: ikakhulu

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iibhaktheriya, ezifumaneka kakhulu emathunjini.

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Ngoko ke aba ngabancedisi abancinci esiphila nabo
ngokuncedana, oko kukuthi, kuluntu olulungileyo, uluntu lobomi.

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Ngaphandle kwazo, besingenakusinda. Zidiliza
ukutya kwethu kwaye zisinceda kule nkqubo.

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Sinazo phantse iikhilogram ezimbini zezinto eziphilayo
ezingezizo eziqhelekileyo emzimbeni wethu esiphila

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nazo. Oko kukuthi, ukuthetha ngokomfuziselo, i-microbiome.

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Kwaye kuhlaselwa kuyo ngokwenene.

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Le microbiome, eyahlukahlukene ngendlela
emangalisayo, nesempilweni – iintlobo-ntlobo

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zisempilweni – ukuyinqamla, ukuyilinganisa.

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Ngoko ke, eyona nto ingcono onokuyenza ngale nto, nendlela
esifanele ukutya ngayo, kukuba nokutya okwahlukahlukeneyo,

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okunemibala. Asikokutya kwesiqhelo nje okufanayo okusuka
kwivenkile enkulu, ukutya okufanayo ngokuphindaphindiweyo, kwaye

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ayisoloko iyile nto uyithembele kuyo, kodwa kukwahlukahlukana.

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Singayikhulisa njani ingqiqo esempilweni phakathi
koluntu yokuba akufuneki bamkele yonke into

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esasazwayo, kodwa endaweni yoko babe ngabantu abazihlalutyayo?

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Singabakhuthaza njani abantu ukuba babe
nolwazi oluhlolisayo malunga nempilo yabo?

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Ewe, kukho umfanekiso okudala ukho kwezonyango, kodwa othe ndithi
utyhafiswe kancinci. Lowo ke ekuthiwa ngugqirha wangaphakathi.

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Ukuba ugqirha sele ehlonitshwa luluntu, ngoko ke wonke umntu
kufuneka azi nokuba unogqirha wakhe buqu,

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umqeqeshi wakhe, onaye iintsuku ezisixhenxe ngeveki,
yonke imihla ukusukela ekuseni kude kube ebusuku.

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Uyamkhathalela, kwaye uyamkhathalela ngcono kunalo naliphi na
elinye igqirha, kuba ukuye ngaphakathi kwaye kuba edibanisa

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umzimba nengqondo kwaye uqaphela
neenkcukacha ezincinci ezingenakufunyanwa ngamanani

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elebhu nangobuchwepheshe bokuthatha imifanekiso.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba into eyayicacile kwasekuqaleni ngoku ingqinwe
ngophononongo lwenzululwazi olungama-250:

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ukuba injongo yokwenzakalisa yayicwangcisiwe
kwasekuqaleni kulo lonke eli cebo le-coronavirus.

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Ewe, ngoku kucace gca!

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Singayisa njani umyalezo ebantwini? Lo ngumbuzo obaluleke kakhulu.
I-media ngokuqinisekileyo inendima ekufuneka iyidlalile apha.

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Into esingathanda ukuyibona ngoku malunga
nokujongana nobhubhane we-coronavirus,

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ngokoluvo lwam, yenzeka kuphela kancinci kakhulu.

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Ngoko ke sisekude kakhulu kwisibini esinengqiqo ...

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Kusekho nje ukugxekwa. Kusekho nje
kusolwayo ukufuna ukuba oku kujongwane nako.

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Ewe, kunjalo, yonke into isacinezelwa kuba, ngokwendalo, abantu
abasemagunyeni basengabo ababengabalandeli,

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abo babesemva kwalo mcimbi wonke kwaye,
ubuncinci, ngabo bafaka ezi zinto zisebenzayo apha.

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Kwaye, ewe kona, abathandi ukuba izenzo zabo ezimbi zihlolisiswe.

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Ngesi sizathu, ndikholelwa ukuba le nto
kufuneka icinezelwe, okwangoku icinezelwa nje.

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Kodwa ndingathanda ukuphendula isithethi esanduleleyo.

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Iindaba ezimnandi ngako konke oku zezokuba ngoku siyakwazi
ukuqonda ukuba sidinga ngokungxamisekileyo iyeza elitsha.

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Siyabona ukuba asihambi phambili ngale
nkqubo, nokuba asinakuthemba oogqirha.

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Kwaye ndisandul' ukuva ukuba esinye
sezibhengezo zoMbutho woNyango wase-Austria sasisithi:

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Impilo iqala ngugqirha wakho.

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Kwaye oko kuphosakele ngokupheleleyo, njengoko
isithethi sangaphambili, uGerd Reuther, esandula ukutsho.

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Sinayo ngaphakathi kithi inkqubo emangalisayo ezilawulayo
neziziphilisayo. Kwaye kubalulekile ukuyibona loo nto.

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Kwaye impilo iqala ngomntu ngamnye.

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Ndicinga ukuba into ebekufanele siyifunde kubhubhane
we-coronavirus yeyokuba kufuneka siphinde sithathe uxanduva

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lwempilo yethu. Kwaye akufuneki sithembe kakhulu
izihloko okanye iidyasi ezimhlophe, kodwa okokuqala

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nokuphambili sizithembe thina kunye namandla ethu.

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Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba esinye sezona ziga zibalulekileyo
zokuphila kwezonyango sisithi: kangangoko kufunekayo,

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kuncinci kangangoko kunokwenzeka. Okuncinci kungcono.

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Kwaye isaci esibalulekileyo, primum non nocere, esithetha ukuba
qala ungonakalisi, oko kukuthi, musa ukuthatha naziphi na

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iinyathelo ezibangela umonakalo ongaphezulu kunokulungileyo
– ukuba unamathela kuloo nto, unokufezekisa lukhulu.

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Ndibona intloni enkulu. Abantu abafuni ukuvuma ukuba
uninzi lweengcali zezempilo zibe sendleleni engeyiyo

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ngokukhohliswa yile propaganda ye-coronavirus nokugonya.

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Kwaye ndikubona nokuba lihlazo, kuba baninzi
abazityebisileyo ngemali eyongezelelweyo

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yohlahlo-lwabiwo-mali, kwaye baninzi abaye bavuma ukwenza njalo.

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Asingabo oogqirha kuphela, kodwa nezibhedlele, ewe,
kunye nabanye abaninzi abenze imali ngemimaski, amaziko

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okuvavanya njalo njalo. Nabezopolitiki nabo, kaloku.

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Ngelishwa, urhwaphilizo kwezopolitiko
asilotyala lolwaphulo-mthetho eJamani.

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Abakayifaki emthethweni loo nto.

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Sonke silapha thina esiphikisile ibali
likarhulumente, saliphikisa, njalo njalo.

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Yiyo loo nto siye sahlasela – ndagwetywa yi-BGA.

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Khawufan' ucinge unikwe isigwebo sokubanjwa
entolongweni esinqunyanyisiweyo somnyaka omnye neenyanga

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ezilishumi, ngenxa yokubhala isatifikethi sezonyango.

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Kufuneka ukwamkele oko. Sendineminyaka engama-55
ndisenza lo msebenzi kwaye ndikhuphe izatifikethi

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ezingama-80,000. Kwaye ngequbuliso ngoku akusachanekanga.

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Ngoko ke ungakwazi nokwalela umkhandi wezihlangu
ukuba angazifaki iziqhoboshi, uze wenze loo nto ibe

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lityala elohlwaywayo. Ngoko ke yinkohliso nje ehlekisayo.

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Kwaye kufuneka nje siqhubeke sinyamezela, sisithi
ngokuzola, ngaphandle kobundlobongela: Hayi, yeyona

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nto yayifanelekile ukwenziwa, kwaye kuya kuba njalo.

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Thina esihleli apha silungiselelwe ukwamkela
iingxaki, ngaloo ndlela sikhuthaza nabanye abantu

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ukuba nabo baphakame baze bazimanye nokuchasa.

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Kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba iza kukhula ngokuphindaphindiweyo
kwaye lonke eli hlazo liza kuwa kungekudala.

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Ngoku ndiyanibeka, ngokwesi sikhundla sam,
njengoMphathiswa wezeMpilo, nonke enihleli phantsi.

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Baxhotyiswe ngesabelomali esixabisa ibhiliyoni yeeponti,
amandla angenamda, kwaye banako ukuqalisa izinto ebezingekho

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ngaphambili. Ngoko ke bakhululekile ukuba bazigqibelele.

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Mnu Reuther, luluphi unyathelo lwakho lokuqala
malunga nokumelana neengxaki kwixesha elizayo?

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Kwaye kukho olu loyiko lwemfazwe olusiphezu kwethu.

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Ungenza ntoni kuqala? Ngaphandle kokuba nisuse
uLauterbach, nditsho. Kwezopolitiko, kwezopolitiko.

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Kulungile, ndingabuyisa uninzi lwemali kwangoko.

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Kulula nje kuba uluntu olukholelwa ukuba
luyadinga inkqubo yezempilo, luluntu olugulayo.

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Uluntu olusempilweni aludingi nkqubo.

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Kulungile, ukuba bendingumphathiswa wezempilo,
bendingazitshintsha inkuthazo. Inkuthazo ivela kumayeza.

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Sonke sifunde nge-pathogenesis,
isifundo sezifo. Kwaye inkuthazo kukugula.

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Okukhona ndinyanga izigulana
ezininzi, kokukhona ndenza imali eninzi.

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Oku kufuneka kususwe kwi-pathogenesis kuye kwi-salutogenesis.

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Umbuzo ayikokuba yintoni ekwenza ugule, kodwa yintoni
ekwenza uphilile, nokuba yintoni ekugcina uphilile.

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Kwaye inkuthazo kufuneka ibe kule ndlela.

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Kufuneka ndenze imali eninzi ukuba
ndinezigulana ezininzi ezisempilweni.

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Njengoko kwakunjalo ngaxa lithile eChina, apho
oogqirha babefumana intlawulo kuphela xa

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isigulana siphilile, kwaye babengayifumani xa besigula.

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Kwaza ke wakwazi ukuzinyanzela ngokwenene.

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Yibani bakulungele imfazwe, yandisani izixhobo,
yazisani umkhosi oqunyelweyo kwaye nibhengeze imeko kaxakeka –

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yiloo nto ethethwa ngabezopolitiko kulo lonke elase-EU.

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Lidabi elibhengeziweyo. Ngo-2029, idabi
elixubeneyo kulindeleke ukuba libe lidabi elishushu.

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Le yingqikelelo yoMkhosi waseJamani, i-NATO
kunye noMphathiswa wezoKhuselo waseJamani.

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Ngelixa imeko kaxakeka yentsholongwane ye-corona yafika
eluntwini ngesiquphe, ngeli xesha yimeko kaxakeka ebhengezwe

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kwangaphambili kwaye ibe nexesha elaneleyo lokulungiselela.

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Kwi-EU, ebithathe iminyaka igxile kwimiba yokuvuka,
isini kunye nokungathathi cala kwemozulu, ngoku

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ingxwabana ngokukhawuleza ifakwa kumngxwabo ozinxibe.

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Kwaye nokuba kukho yonke le ngxama, kuthatha
iminyaka eliqela, kwaye isixhobo somkhosi kufuneka

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sakhiwe kuqala. Kodwa baphendula njani abo bavukileyo?

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Intshukumo yenkululeko, eye yaba sesichengeni
ngakumbi ngexesha lobhubhane

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we-coronavirus, isabela njani kule ngxokozelo iqikelelweyo?

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Ukuba siyayityeshela iqumrhu elilawulayo, elinethemba lokuxhamla
emfazweni, abemi ngoku bahlulwe ngolu hlobo: abo bayibona imfazwe

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kaPutin njengento enesizathu, kuba becinga ukuba bona
abazukubandezeleka okanye bafe kule mfazwe. Abo baqhubeka nokwala

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imfazwe ngaphandle kwemiqathango, kodwa kubo imfazwe ayibonakali
kwaye ikude kakhulu, ngoko ke bahlala bengathathi nxaxheba. Kwaye

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kukho abo bayibonileyo ingozi kunye nexesha elifutshane
lokulungiselela leminyaka embalwa nje kwaye

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sele bekhankasela ngenkuthalo ngokuchasene
nayo, bezama ngamandla onke ukuvusa abanye abemi.

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Iqela lokugqibela lelona lincinci,
kodwa mhlawumbi lelona libaluleke kakhulu.

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Kuba utshintsho lunokuvela kuphela kwabo
bakhutheleyo, kodwa kuphela xa bephumelele

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ukufumana inkxaso yabo bangathathi nxaxheba.

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Ngoko ke, siza kulinda de kube ngu-2029, de
iibhombu zokuqala ziwe kwaye abafileyo bazalise izitrato?

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Ingaba silinda, simile singashukumi njengomvundla
phambi kwenyoka? Okanye sisebenzise eli xesha senze into?

27:26.868 --> 27:33.796
Kwaye xa sisenza into, umbuzo
obalulekileyo ngulo: yintoni kanye kanye esiyenzayo?

27:33.796 --> 27:41.652
Ngoko ke kuza kufuneka sibe nesibindi ngakumbi, sinamandla
ngakumbi kwaye mhlawumbi sikwazi nokumelana ngakumbi kunale

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sasikuyo ngexesha lobhubhane we-coronavirus, kuba
ingozi ikhulu kakhulu ngokwezoqoqosho, eluntwini

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ngokubanzi, kodwa ikwabakhona nakubantu bethu esibathandayo.

27:52.374 --> 27:56.351
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba ukuphakamisa ulwazi ngale nto
uze emva koko ukuguqukele kwisenzo, kwisenzo

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esinesibindi, kufuneka kube yeyona nto iphambili nengundoqo.

27:58.952 --> 28:04.889
Wakha wandixelela kudliwanondlebe
lwangaphambili ukuba ngoku ngokupheleleyo awusenalo uloyiko.

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Kangangeminyaka, ubungumfundisi ongadinwayo
nomthetheleli wokulwa imfazwe nokuxhasa uxolo.

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Ukuba kunjengoko kutshilo la mazwi mabini adlulileyo, ucinga
ukuba kusenokwenzeka na ukuvusa abantu ngoku, okanye wonke umntu

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oqondileyo ingozi makakhe iNkanga kaNowa aze afune ukhuseleko
kwisikhukula esizayo, okanye, njengoko

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kutshilo omnye umntu, afunde isiRashiya okanye
azalise itanki yakhe yepetroli aze abaleke?

28:36.986 --> 28:43.955
Okokuqala, enkosi kakhulu ngesimemo. Umbuzo ngulo, yintoni
esinokuyifunda kubachasi bethu, kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba into

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esinokuyifunda kubachasi bethu – njengoko sibonile nge-COVID-19
– yeyokuba xa nje sizama ukufikelela kwiingqondo zabantu

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ngempikiswano... Kodwa kubantu aboyikisiweyo, siyasilela.

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Eyona nkqubo isebenzayo yomkhuhlane we-corona
ngelo xesha yayikukuba ziingcwaba zaseBergamo.

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Loo nto isebenze; abantu bayakwazi ukuyicinga loo nto.

29:02.769 --> 29:07.885
Emva koko uza nezibalo uthi, mamela, oku kuyakuchaphazela,
ubonise nje abantu abakwimatshini yokuphefumla,

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nokuba bavela phi na – abantu abakweli xesha
lokoyika baya kubambelela nakwisikhondo sokuqala.

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Lelo likwalicebo elingemva kophando
lwezentlalo, lokuba uloyiko luthintela kakhulu ukucinga.

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Ngoko ke kufuneka sizibuze lo mbuzo: kucacile ukuba akukho
mntu ukhuthaza imfazwe, kodwa isoyikiso kukuba uPutin,

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esenza yedwa, uza kusibulala sonke. Sijongana njani naloo nto?

29:26.269 --> 29:30.550
Kwaye ndikholelwa nje ukuba kufuneka siqonde
ukuba sidinga ukunxibelelana ngeemvakalelo.

29:30.550 --> 29:35.053
Ungabhekisa ku-Edward Bernays okanye
ku-Gustave Le Bon, kwi-'The Psychology of Crowds'.

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Ukuba oko bekungasebenzi, bekungayi kubakho nentengiso.

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Nako ke oko, kuba sisiphumo esinako nathi ukusivusa.

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Yiyo loo nto ndikholelwa ukuba kufuneka senze ngokwento
efunwa ngabachasi bethu ngokuthi siyayithanda into

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abazama ukusithengisa yona, size siphinde sigxininise loo nto.

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Oku kuza kukhathaza abanye abantu, kodwa yiyo leyo injongo.

29:58.631 --> 30:04.197
Ungadala iphulo lobuxoki leBundeswehr, onokuthi ulincamathisele
naphambi kwezakhiwo zamajoni, libonisa abantwana benxibe

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iiyunifomu zamajoni bephethe isixhobo sokwenyani, umzekelo,
kunye nombhalo othi 'ukuziqhelanisa kwenza ube yingcali'.

30:09.481 --> 30:13.373
Okanye amajoni eBundeswehr: "Ngoku
baye baba ngabaphuli-mthetho bempi."

30:13.373 --> 30:21.677
Amabali anjalo. Ungakwazi nokulungisa
iphulo elalichasene nobhubhane we-coronavirus.

30:21.677 --> 30:24.560
Abavelisi abaninzi beebrendi bayitshintshile iilogo zabo.

30:24.560 --> 30:27.795
Ndikhumbula iMcDonald's: Thungela, ndiyayithanda.

30:27.795 --> 30:31.141
Kwaye kanye ngaloo ndlela, iMcDonald's
enxibe i-camouflage: Thixo, ndiyayithanda!

30:31.141 --> 30:36.430
Nkqu neecawa: ukugonya luthando. Faka endaweni
yesiphambano iimijukujelwa emibini, wonke umntu enxibe

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iyunifomu kwisidlo esingcwele: ngoku bulala. Imfazwe ilungile.

30:39.772 --> 30:46.146
Okanye intengiso yeHornbach: amajoni eca amangcwaba
abantu abaninzi – uze emva koko uyenze iprojekthi yakho.

30:49.029 --> 30:54.392
Ngokuqinisekileyo yinxalenye yayo. Ndikholelwa ngenene
ukuba abantu abaninzi abazi nje ukuba imfazwe ithetha ntoni.

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Abantu abaninzi, ingakumbi abantu abatsha,
ngoku bayazi nje imfazwe kumabonakude kuphela.

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Kwaye ke kukho amagorha emfazwe neefilimu ezinkulu zemfazwe,
apho umfo afumana intombi ekugqibeleni, okanye nantoni na.

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Ngoko ke imfazwe iboniswa ngendlela eyahluke kakhulu apho.

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Kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu
ukwazisa abantu ngobunjani bokwenyani,

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oboyikekayo bemfazwe, nokuba oku kufanele kubothuse.

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Kodwa oko kuphela akunakuba sisisombululo, kuba yiyo kanye le
ngxaki bendiyikhankanyile ngaphambili: ukuba

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wothusa umntu nje uze umenze azive kakubi
nangakumbi kunokuba sele eziva, ngoko uza kuzixhoma.

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Enyanisweni, ukuba akanandawo yokuphumelela, ukuba akanamntu
wokuthetha naye, akanalo uluntu, akanamntu wathi, 'Masifumane

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iindlela zokuphuma nezisombululo kunye,' ngoko ke umshiya yedwa
nezi zihlandlo zokothuka nemifanekiso

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eyothusayo, nalo lo loyiko umfaka kuye kwakhona, kwaye
ndicinga ukuba umenza azive engenamandla nangakumbi.

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Ewe kona, sifunde ngeziganeko ezininzi zengqondo ngexesha
lobhubhane we-coronavirus, apho kuthethwe ngoLe Bon nabanye.

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Sonke sasizibuza ukuba kwenzeke ntoni kanye kanye.

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Kwaye ngale ndlela, ndikholelwa ukuba siye saba nobukrelekrele
ngakumbi malunga nendlela esinokuphendula ngayo

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kulunye ungqengqelelo lukarhulumente, ukuze
singazivumeli ukuba siphinde sisetyenziswe kakubi.

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Kwaye into eyandichukumisa kakhulu ngale nto yeyokuba, kwanabo
kuthiwa bemi kwicala lasekunene, baphathwa kakhulu luloyiko.

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Abanye abantu babesoyika ukugonywa i-COVID-19, ngelixa abanye
babesoyika inkululeko yabo. Ekugqibeleni, yayiyoyikeka nje yonke.

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Kwaye ngoku yinto enye kwakhona: abanye boyika
imfazwe ukuba iza kufika, abanye boyika amaRashiya.

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Ngoko ke kukho uloyiko olwahlukileyo kwakhona kumacala omabini.

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Kwaye ndisoloko ndifumanisa ukuba
uloyiko lukhokelo olubuthathaka.

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Oko kuthetha ukuba ndingathanda kuqala ukukhuthaza abantu
ukuba bangamelani nento, kodwa endaweni yoko bamele into.

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Kwaye oko kuthetha ukuba ukulwa ubuhlwempu ligama lobudenge,
kuba kulindeleke ukuba wenzeni? Ukulwa nabantu abangamahlwempu?

32:51.755 --> 32:55.943
Ngoko kungakuhle ukugxila kwibutyebi kunokulwa intlupheko.

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Kwaye ukuba ufuna uxolo, akufuneki
usebenzele imfazwe, kodwa usebenzele uxolo.

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Emva koko umntu kufuneka ajonge ukuba yintoni kanye kanye
ekhethekileyo ngayo nokuba isidima somntu sivela phi kanye.

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Sidaliwe nguThixo; sinentlonipho yobuntu.

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Kwaye esi sihlonipho somntu asiyonto ingaphathekiyo; wonke umntu
ngamnye ubalulekile kwaye uxabisekile, umchasi oqikelelwayo

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ngokufanayo nomhlobo oqikelelwayo osoloko emi ecaleni kwam.

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Ukuphikisa ngenxa yezenzo zokuziphatha yindlela elula
kakhulu yokwenza ingxelo, yokugcina wonke umatshini wemikhosi

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uxakekile, yokunyusa amanani-manani nokwenza kucace ukuba:

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Sivela kwisizukulwana sonke. Kwaye sihlala sithetha
ngamadoda amancinci angama-500,000 nangaphezulu

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ongezwa nyaka ngamnye njengokutya kwezibhamu ezintsha.

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Ukuba ikota yabantu ibithe nje, "Niyamkelekile ukuba nilwe
imfazwe, kodwa mna ndiyahamba. Ningandifaka

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kwifektri ethile yokugcina ukutya ukuba nithanda, kodwa
ningalindeli ukuba ndibe nani kumgca ongaphambili."

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Lelo lithetha lukhulu, kwaye libonisa ukuba abemi
banokwenza umahluko ngokwenene, kuba ngokwendalo lenza

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umbono – phela imfazwe ngaphandle kwamajoni inzima ukuyilwa.

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Uthe amajelo eendaba aphambili, kodwa mna ngoku
ndibabiza ngokuba ngamajelo eendaba karhulumente.

34:11.596 --> 34:19.770
Le yimeko efihlakeleyo ngenxa yebali eliyintsomi le-'fourth
estate', ngenxa yebali elithi ubuntatheli

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buzimele, ukuba bunokuba nengakhethi cala, nangenxa
yebali eliyintsomi lenkonzo yosasazo eyeyethu sonke.

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Ndisandul' ukubhala incwadi ngesi
sihloko: Staatsfunk (Umsasazo kaRhulumente).

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Oku kusenokungabangelanga mfuneko ukukuthetha, kodwa
urhulumente uphinde abe negalelo kumajelo eendaba ezingamaziko.

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Sineengcango ezijikelezayo ezikhokelela kubahleli
abaphambili ababa zizithethi zikarhulumente, kunye

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noogxa ababa zizithethi zikaFrank-Walter Steinmeier.

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Sininkxaso-mali, enokuba ngqo okanye engangqalanga. Sinamaphulo
ezentengiso, sinamasevisi ezimfihlo ezinabantu bazo abangundoqo

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kuwo onke ama-ofisi amakhulu ohlelo lwephephandaba, abantu
babo abaqinisekisa ukuba amabali athile ayatyhalwa phambili.

34:55.728 --> 35:00.230
Sinazo iimatshini zepropaganda ezibonelela
ngesigama kunye nabasebenzi abakulungeleyo

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nabalindeleyo udliwano-ndlebe olufanelekileyo.

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Ngoko ke asinalo ujurnalizim ezimeleyo, nto leyo
ethetha ukuba akufuneki sithembe ukuba sifumana amabali

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apha, ukuba sifumana into apha enokugxeka ezopolitiko.

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Ngoko ke, yintoni efunwa ngabantu, yintoni
abangayifuna ukuze bame ngakumbi ngokuchasene

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nokungabikho kobulungisa, balwele uxolo nenkululeko?

35:20.831 --> 35:28.455
Kwaye isigqibo sokuqala esivela koku sibe sesokuba
amanyathelo exesha elide kunye nawokukhawuleza angenzaqondwa.

35:28.455 --> 35:34.499
Ekuhambeni kwexesha, oko kufana kancinci nokwakha iinqaba
emoyeni. Ewe kona, ekuhambeni kwexesha, kuya kufuneka

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sikwabhekane nenkqubo yezempilo ngokubanzi size
siyihlele ngokutsha, njengoko kuxoxwe ngako kwiphaneli

35:40.053 --> 35:44.366
engaphambili, ukuze ihambe ngecala lempilo nokomeleza abantu.

35:44.366 --> 35:54.115
Kwimpando-ngqondo, ingqwalasela ibikwinto yokuba abantu baphantsi
kwengqondo, okanye kwinto yokuba bafuthaniswe ngokwasengqondweni,

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bengenamandla, beziva bengenamsebenzi, kwaye bethwele amanxeba
amaninzi angaphakathi avela ebuntwaneni

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okanye esikolweni, asele ebaxelela ukuba bathobele,
babe abalungileyo, bangaphakami, banganqumi.

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Ngoko ke, indawo yokuqala iya kuba kukwakha ngokutsha amandla
angaphakathi abantu, ukubomeleza ngaphakathi, ukubakhulisa

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kwinkqubo yezikolo kwaye kubanike ukuzithemba, kwinkqubo
yezempilo enika ingqwalasela enkulu kwingqondo kwaye

36:24.517 --> 36:32.529
iwuhlonipha imeko yengqondo yabantu. Emva koko uluntu
ngokwalo luya kuba namandla kakhulu kwaye lomelele ngakumbi.

36:32.529 --> 36:35.606
Wonke umntu ulinye nje icandelo, icandelo elinye nje loluntu.

36:35.606 --> 36:40.097
Ngoku kunjalo ke: zininzi iintsana ezincinci ezenzakeleyo,
zoyikile, kwaye ziyaxabana phakathi kwazo,

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ngamanye amaxesha ngathi kwisikolo sabantwana,
hayi kakhulu njengakwentlalo yabantu abadala.

36:44.458 --> 36:50.757
Ngoko ke bekufuneka uqale ngamandla amakhulu. Yiloo
nto endiyifumene inomdla ngokwenene ngayo yonke le nto.

36:50.757 --> 36:55.038
Kufuneka uyifune. Aba ngabo abakuxelele ukuba bayayifuna.

36:55.038 --> 37:00.221
Emva koko kufuneka bayenze ngokwenene. Kwaye
kukho umsantsa omkhulu phakathi kwezi zinto zimbini.

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Ngoko ke kufuneka wenze izinto zibe
lula kangangoko kunokwenzeka kubo.

37:02.272 --> 37:08.586
Ngoko ke kufuneka ubaxelele, kulungile, kukho iwebhusayithi,
umzekelo, bhalisani, okanye sinesakhiwo esikule ndawo, okanye

37:08.586 --> 37:16.280
niyele umboniso, umzekelo, rhoqo ngoMgqibelo wokuqala wenyanga
phambi kweFederal Chancellery eVienna, njengoko nathi sisenza.

37:16.280 --> 37:25.160
Kodwa iza kusebenza kuphela xa sisenza ingozi ibonakale
kwaye yiveke, njengoko uKayvan ethethe nyhani, size emva

37:25.160 --> 37:29.560
koko sixelele abantu, "Kulungile, ngoku yenzani ngayo."

37:29.560 --> 37:36.308
Emva koko sizivumela ukuba sibambeke ngenxa yokuba
amajelo eendaba esijikelezile size sithi, ncedani, ncedani,

37:36.308 --> 37:40.012
ngoku igama lam liyatshatyalaliswa, ngoku kufuneka ndiyeke.

37:40.012 --> 37:44.044
Okanye ndaziwa kakhulu kwidolophu yam kwaye ngoku ndiyeka.

37:44.044 --> 37:48.160
Kulungile ke, enkosi kakhulu, ungumxhasi wemfazwe.

37:48.160 --> 37:56.813
Kufuneka sicacisele abantu ukuba le nto siyenzayo, nokuba ithetha
ukuba siza kuthatha izitrato, nayo ayilulanga kubantu ngabanye.

37:56.813 --> 38:07.307
Kwaye akukho mnandi kwelona ntsingiselo iphambili kuba sidlala
ngabo abo bangaphakathi abacebe iCorona, abacebe i-ajenda

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yokufuduka ka-2015, abacebe ukuwa kweebhanki ngo-2008, kodwa
abaceba iMfazwe yeHlabathi III. Kwaye abafanele ukudlalwa.

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Kwaye ukuba uyazidlalela, kufuneka wazi
kwangaphambili ukuba kuza kufuneka ulungele ukuhlawula ixabiso.

38:24.080 --> 38:30.232
Kwaye ukuba ucinga ngolu thotho loxinzelelo
ukusuka ku "yintoni elindeleyo" ukuya ku

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"ndingagalela njani" kunye no "ndiyalungela ukubhatala ntoni"

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Ah, kudinisile oko, ah, kungaba yingozi oko, ah, ummelwane
unokundisondela aze andibuze ukuba ndenza ntoni kumboniso okanye

38:41.157 --> 38:47.590
ndenza ntoni kwisibheno, ndiye ndibe kufuneka ndizilungiselele
oko kwangaphambili, kwaye ke kufuneka kucace ukuba le dimba

38:47.590 --> 38:53.285
yoxolo – kwaye ngoku, ewe, kuba yinto ehlekisayo uk "ulwa" uxolo
– olu zibophelelo luxolo – luza kuthintelwa

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ngabaxhasi bobumanyano behlabathi besebenzisa zonke iindlela
abanazo, kuba bafuna iMfazwe yeHlabathi yeSithathu.

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Kutheni ungabeki isitendi sobuxoki
esineprothesis apho unokuzihlolisa khona?

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Ngoko ke, zininzi iindlela zokuvusa abantu,
kodwa ngokuba bangabi nabugxeko obugqithisileyo.

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Ndazibuza ukuba kutheni zibe zimbalwa izinto
ezenzekileyo ezitratweni kule minyaka yakutshanje,

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nangona ootitshala abaninzi nabo benikela ngeentetho.

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Kwaza ke kwavela kum ukuba thina, abenza
iintetho, sisebenzisa iPowerPoint eninzi njalo njalo,

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ekugqibeleni sisebenzela nje ifomathi yesikolo.

39:24.741 --> 39:28.382
Kukho abantu abahleli ngezantsi, kwaye phezulu
kukho isithethi esinobuchule kwinto esiyenzayo,

39:28.382 --> 39:30.428
esithetha ngobuciko kwaye sizilungiselele kakuhle.

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Ngezantsi kukho abantu abaqhwabela izandla,
abathi uchane kakhulu, kodwa bahlala bengenzi nto.

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Kwaye seso isizathu ndithe, kulungile, andisakwazi
kunika iintetho ezinje, kuba akusithi abantu abazi.

39:41.333 --> 39:44.474
Ngoko ke, asikokuba abantu babengayazi ngayo.

39:44.474 --> 39:49.275
Sinayo iRadio London eninzi. Kodwa
singabenza njani abantu bathathe amanyathelo?

39:49.275 --> 39:53.498
Kwaye kufuneka siqonde ukuba sonke sidlule kwinkqubo yesikolo,
ukusukela kwisikolo sangaphambi kweminyaka

39:53.498 --> 39:57.372
yokuqala ukuya kutsho ... kwaye safunda apho olu luhlu
lwemisebenzi olungabonakaliyo, lwalukukuthobela.

39:57.372 --> 40:00.662
Sifundiswe kakhulu kwaye kakhulu kwaye
sikuthatha oku njengonqulo-zilifa. Ndihlala

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ndisithi oku "kunqulo-zilifa okugqithisileyo".

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Ngoko ke siyathobela, kwaye ngenxa yokuthobela kwethu okukhulu
sifumana umvuzo. Kwaye abo babeyithobela

40:07.306 --> 40:11.491
kakhulu baba ngabafundi bethu abangumzekelo,
ukusukela kuBüx ukuya kuUrsula von der Leyen.

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Abazange bawele nje emithini, benza kwanjalo.

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Kwaye ukuze sikwazi ukubuyisela abantu kubomi babo bokwenyani,
kuba babekade bejinga njengabantwana abaneminyaka

40:18.678 --> 40:22.901
emithathu okanye emine abatyhina ngeenyawo,
ndathi, kulungile, ndiza kubakhupha abantu eqongeni.

40:22.901 --> 40:28.632
Ndizisa abantu eqongeni abakhe babeka isivakalisi
kwibhokisi ye-card index, umthandazwana, okanye uloyiko.

40:28.632 --> 40:33.941
Kwaye ke baye eqongeni bathethe ngabo
phambi kwabantu abangama-2, 3, 4, 500.

40:33.941 --> 40:38.618
Kwaye ke kuye kwehle isithintelo sokuba neentloni, kuba abantu
abaninzi bayathetha ngezinto, umzekelo ngexesha

40:38.618 --> 40:43.164
lobhubhane we-coronavirus, ngendlela abaye baba
neentloni ngayo, nendlela abaye bonakaliswa ngayo.

40:43.164 --> 40:46.832
Kwaye ke abaphulaphuli baqonda ukuba akukho mntu
wenzayo ngobubi, kodwa endaweni yoko kubakho

40:46.832 --> 40:49.239
ukuchwinyisa okukhulu kuba abantu benobuganga bokwenza oku.

40:49.239 --> 40:52.092
Kwaye wonke umntu uyaziqonda ezi zibhalo.

40:52.092 --> 40:59.052
Sifuna ingcinga ecacileyo malunga nokuba sifuna ukuya
phi kanye, kwaye le ngcinga yokuba sifuna ukuya phi,

40:59.052 --> 41:02.439
kwakhona, ilula kakhulu: thanda ummelwane wakho njengawe!

41:02.439 --> 41:10.838
Kwaye ukuba thina njengoluntu singakwazi ukuphatha omnye nomnye
ngokufanelekileyo size siphinde simisele

41:10.838 --> 41:18.598
isiseko apho, kuba eso besilahlekile, ngoko
sinethuba lokucinga ngekamva esilifunela thina.

41:18.598 --> 41:25.969
Ukuthetha nje ukuba, ewe, andifuni kugula, andifuni mfazwe, kwaye
andifuni kuba ngumhlwempu, asibobono, lithemba elingacacanga.

41:25.969 --> 41:32.755
Kwaye yiloo nto yonke le nto imalunga nayo, ndicinga: okokuqala,
ukwazi ukuba kutheni ndisenza konke oku, apho ndifuna ukuya khona

41:32.755 --> 41:38.914
ngokwenene, njengomntu ngamnye nanjengoluntu; okwesibini,
ukuqonda ukuba nam ndinamandla okwenza izinto kwaye kufuneka

41:38.914 --> 41:43.716
ndizenze nje, nokuba kunjani, kuba loo nto
akufuneki ibe isele icwangcisiwe kwangaphambili –

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thina bantu sinobuchule obumangalisayo bokuyila.

41:47.127 --> 41:54.950
Yiya kwivenkile enkulu okanye kwikhemesti uze ujonge zonke izinto
abantu abaye bazisungula – yivenkile yetekhnoloji, kuyamangalisa

41:54.950 --> 41:58.468
ngokupheleleyo into esiyakwazi ukuyenza thina bantu!

41:58.468 --> 42:06.836
Kwaye asikwazi nokucinga ngento esinokuyenza ngento eqhelekileyo
njengemfazwe esebenzisa iindlela ezilula kangaka. Ayifani

42:06.836 --> 42:14.106
nokunqunqwa kwephepha, inqunqwe ngokurhabaxa kwaye
ibe sisixhobo esinye semithi kangangeenkulungwane, apho

42:14.106 --> 42:17.106
sixelelwa ububhanxa obufanayo ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

42:17.106 --> 42:18.851
Kwanele ngoku nyani!

42:18.851 --> 42:26.450
Ewe, ndikholelwa ngenene ukuba i-WEF enye
inokusetyenziswa kakuhle nalapha, nokuba kufuneka

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sidibanise imikhosi size senze imanyano ebanzi.

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Okukhona kwanda amadibano esiwakhayo, kwanda
nemibutho yethu, kokukhona kusiba nzima ngoku ukutshabalalisa

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okanye ukufumana ukuze uhlasele nabani na ngokukodwa.

42:41.880 --> 42:46.982
Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba kuphela xa sikwaziyo
ukujongana naba bambalwa, abalungelelaniswe

42:46.982 --> 42:50.324
kakuhle kakhulu, ngoncumo, ukumelana kuya kuba mnandi.

42:50.324 --> 42:53.638
Kungenjalo, kuhlala kufana nokuba nenkemba
phakathi kwamazinyo akho, kwaye ke ayonwabisi.

42:53.638 --> 43:01.843
Kufuneka sibone ukuba inkcaso yeli qelana lincinci ingenziwa njani
ibe mnandi, ukuze nesizukulwana esilandelayo siye sizibandakanye,

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kuba abakrelekrele ngaphezu kwethu, bamane bahleliwe ngcono.

43:05.906 --> 43:10.513
Kwaye kulapho sikhoyo xa siqala ukwakha
izakhiwo; zizinzile ngakumbi kunoko umntu ngamnye

43:10.513 --> 43:13.057
anokukufezekisa. Kwaye ikamva liyakuba njalo.

43:13.057 --> 43:18.136
Ubaleka njani ucinezelo olukulindileyo?

43:18.136 --> 43:26.286
UKayvan ukushwankathelile kakuhle kakhulu. Kuyimomba
yokujongana nezinto ngokukhululeka nangoncumo ebusweni,

43:26.286 --> 43:30.568
hayi ngokuzimisela noloyiko, kodwa ngokuthemba kuThixo.

43:30.568 --> 43:38.129
Kunjalo nakum. Ndiyijongana nayo ngaphandle
koloyiko. Ndiyazi nje ukuba lo msebenzi ndimele ndiwenzile.

43:38.129 --> 43:43.342
Kufuneka ndikwenze oku. Ndiyazi indlela esebenza ngayo
elinye icala. Ndiye ndakufumana konke oku ngamandla.

43:43.342 --> 43:49.113
Zingaphi ii-akhawunti ezivaliweyo ngenxa yam
yi-Hamburger Sparkasse, Apotheker- und Ärztebank?

43:49.113 --> 43:55.585
Baza kuwe bathi, Mnu. Böning, asinangxaki neembono
zakho zezopolitiko, kodwa nceda ufumane enye ibhanki.

43:55.585 --> 44:01.081
Kwaye zonke zikwenza oko ngokulandelelana. Emva koko kuza
i-Volksbank Lüneburger Heide, ethi sala kakuhle, i-Sparkasse

44:01.081 --> 44:04.096
Hamburg-Buxtehude, hayi, ayizukusebenza phakathi kwethu.

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Kwaza ke kufika umboneleli wenkonzo yentlawulo
ofana nePayPal othi emva kweyure, hayi, hayi ngawe.

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Okanye i-Stripe ifowunelwa yintatheli ye-ARD ngoLwesihlanu
ngokuhlwa—uyazi ukuba loluphi uhlobo lomntu loo nto?—ze

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ngequbuliso i-akhawunti yam ivaliwe ngoMgqibelo ekuseni.

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Ngoko ke, into ekufuneka uyiqonde yeyokuba yinto
eqhelekileyo ngokupheleleyo ukuba ndicenzurwe

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kumakhasi onxibelelwano kwaye ukufikelela kwam kuncitshiswe.

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Inkululeko yokuthetha ikude kakhulu nenkululeko
yokufikelela; kudala leyo iyinkqubo eqhelekileyo.

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Sidinga inkqubo yemali enobulungisa kwikamva elikhululekileyo.

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Inkqubo yezemali esemagunyeni, esiyazi sonke njenge-fiat money,
izityhila njenge-okhophu yehlabathi jikelele, apho, ngokokubona

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kwethu, phantse zonke oorhulumente baphantsi kolwalathiso lwayo.

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Imintambo itsalwa ngabambalwa abakhethiweyo, kwaye la
maqhawe ngokwenene emali ngokwendalo nawo aye aphatha amandla.

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Imali yanamhlanje idalwa ngokungathi yimfumba,
kwaye ayinasixhaso nje kuphela, kodwa inkqubo

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yethu ithwele umthwalo wenzala ehlanganisiweyo.

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Isiphumo soku, ngokuqinisekileyo, kukubawa okungapheliyo kokufuna
okungakumbi nangakumbi, kwaye ke, nanini na le nkqubo ifikelela

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esiphelweni sayo esicwangcisiweyo kwangaphambili, kufuneka
iqaliswe ngokutsha qho emva kwamashumi ambalwa

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eminyaka, nto leyo esijongene nayo ngoku, okanye mandithi,
ekunyanzelekile ukuba siyijongane nayo, njenge-Great Reset.

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Abantu abaninzi ngokwendalo babona le nkqubo yemali njengengcambu
yako konke okubi, nokuba kukunyuka kwamaxabiso, ukuswela, indlala

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okanye imfazwe. Ukuba yonke into ibingajoliswanga ekukhuleni
okungapheliyo, uninzi lweengxaki zexesha lethu bezingazukubakho.

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Kunyaka ophelileyo, sixoxe ngezisombululo ezinokwenzeka
kwiphaneli yethu yezemali, kwaye wonke umntu wayevumelana.

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Kwelinye icala, urhulumente kufuneka anciphise inkcitho, ayeke
ukuziphatha okufana nokunyamekela abantu ngokweqileyo, aze agxile

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kwimisebenzi yakhe engundoqo. Kwelinye
icala, inkqubo yemali kufuneka ibe nokulingana

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ngakumbi, kwaye, ewe, ibe nesimilo ngakumbi.

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Ngaphezu kwako konke, kufuneka kubekho ingqikelelo
ecacileyo ukuze imali ingashicilelwa nje ngokuthanda umntu

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ngendlela ebangela ukunyuka kwamaxabiso, njengoko kunjalo ngoku.

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Kulungile, kulo nyaka sifuna ukucacisa
ngakumbi, kuba kuphela abo babona umgca ocacileyo

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wokugqibela abanokukwazi ukulawula indlela eya apho.

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Kwaye sinomdla wokubona ukuba singafumana na umbono ofanayo
kulo mcimbi phakathi kweqela lethu leengcali zezoqoqosho.

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Kulungile, yimali esebenza ngokwenene ngaphandle
kwenzala, kuba inzala yingxaki engasabonwa njengengxaki

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namhlanje. Inzala yingxaki kuba ikhula ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

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Wonke umntu uyayazi inzala edityanisiweyo
esikolweni; yinkqubo ekhulayo ngokuphindaphindiweyo.

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Ngoko ke iqala kancinci, iye isiba nzima
ngakumbi nangakumbi, ide iqhubeke ngonaphakade.

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Kwaye olu ncedo lwenzala oludityanisiweyo
kwinkqubo yemali lunyanzela uqoqosho lonke ukuba lukhule

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ngesantya esikhawuleza kakhulu esisoloko sisanda.

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Yiyo loo nto sidinga ukukhula koqoqosho okungapheliyo.

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Ngoko ke, ukuze inkqubo yethu ihlale izinzile,
ifuna ubuncinane ukukhula koqoqosho nge-3%

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nyaka ngamnye, kungenjalo iza kuwa kungekudala.

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Kwaye kungenxa yokuba kuhlala
kufuneka sisukele la maxabiso enzala.

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Ngoko ke, la maxabiso enzala enza i-asethi
zemali zibe nexabiso elinyukayo ngokunyukayo.

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Zikwenza abahlwempuzekileyo babe ngamahlwempu
ngakumbi kwaye abazizityebi babe zizityebi ngakumbi.

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Umntu osisityebi unemali eninzi nje, uyibolekise
ngenzala, aze asisityebi nangakumbi ngenxa yenzala, baze

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bonke abanye abantu banyanzeleke ukuba bahlawulele oko.

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Ngoko ke, ngenxa yenzala, imali idluliselwa ngokuzenzekelayo
isuka kwisihlwele iye ezandleni zabantu abambalwa

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ngakumbi nangakumbi. Leyo yingxaki esisiseko kwinkqubo yemali.

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Hayi, siye sabona iziphumo ezoyikekayo
zokunyuka kwamaxabiso kuyo yonke imbali.

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Kukhe kwakhutshwa amazwi ngeminyaka yoo-1920, kwaye
ngokuqinisekileyo yinyani ukuba yonke imfazwe, konke ukuwa

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okukhulu kobukhosi, kusoloko kusekelwe ekungazinzi kwemali.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba nanini na imali yayingazinzi,
kwakudila iimfazwe kwaye iimbuso zazisithi shwaka, kuba abantu

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babefuna ukuphambanisa ingqwalasela kulo buqhophololo.

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Kwakufuneka ugqithise ingqwalasela kubuqhophololo. Ukuba
andisakwazi ukuhlawula, ke kufuneka ndivume ndixelele uluntu

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ukuba ndinibaxile – into abantu bezopolitiko abangathandi tu
ukuyenza – okanye udale isiganeko esibi nangakumbi uze uthi,

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ewe, yenzeke nje ngolo hlobo. Wonke umntu uyazi... asindim.

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Kwaye yiyo kanye leyo ingxaki, isizathu sokuba
sithi akusafuneki siphinde siyivumele le nkcitho.

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Ndingakukhuthaza ukuba wenze umahluko
ocacileyo phakathi kobonelelo lwemali, ukukhula

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kobonelelo lwemali kunye nokunyuka kwamaxabiso.

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Kwaye ukuba ke siwubeka oku kwimeko yemivuzo yabantu, sibona
ukuba umqeshwa oqhelekileyo eJamani namhlanje

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kufuneka asebenze ixesha eliphindwe kasixhenxe ukuze
afumane i-ounce yegolide, kunokuba kwakunjalo ngo-1999.

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Kwaye yile nto kanye u-Eike Hamer asele eyichazile. Le yile nto
ekuthiwa yi-Cantillon effect, apho abo bafumana

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kuqala imali esandul' ukwenziwa bazuza kuba bayakwazi
ukuthenga ngamaxabiso alungileyo asaxhaphakileyo.

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Emva koko, njengoko kungena imali eninzi ngakumbi kwimarike, oko
kuba nefuthe kwimfuno, amaxabiso anyuka,

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kwaye ekugqibeleni, imivuzo yabathathi-mhlalaphantsi,
abasebenzi njalo njalo iyonyuka kuqala.

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Kwaye yile kanye impembelelo yokwabela ngokutsha efunyenweyo.

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Ingaba siyayidinga imigangatho yegolide ngoku okanye
hayi? Ingaba ilungile, ingaba imbi, okanye yintoni na?

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Le ngxoxo ayisisi kusa ndawo. Iqhubela nzulu nje ukwahlukana
phakathi kweengcali. Endaweni yoko, kufuneka

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nje sidale inkqubo yemali enophawu
lokwenyani kwakhona kwindlela abantu abasebenza ngayo.

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Kwaye umbuzo ngulo, singayenza njani ngoku,
okanye sifuna ukuyitshintsha siyise kwicala

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eliphi? Kufuneka nabantu baye ngqondweni ngaloo nto.

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Ngoko ke, nokuba iingcali zezifundo zezoqoqosho ziyavumelana
ukuba le isenokuba yindlela efanelekileyo

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eqhelekileyo yokuqhubela phambili, kufuneka sikwenze abantu
bayamkele! Kanti ke, abantu bafumana ntoni eneneni?

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Bavele bajongene nokuhla komgangatho wobomi
babo, bajongene nokunyuka kwamaxabiso, kwaye

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umthwalo wamatyala uya usiba nzima ngakumbi.

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Ekuqaleni kwalo nyaka, uNjingalwazi
Raffelhüschen wacaphula inani elandothusa kakhulu.

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NgokukaNjingalwazi Raffelhüschen, ityala lesizwe
lokwenyani laseJamani li-€17.3 yetriliyoni,

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eliphindaphindwe kakhulu kunetyala lesizwe elisemthethweni.

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Kakade ke, kukwakho netyala lesizwe elingekho sesikweni,
iipenshoni zabasebenzi bakarhulumente ezingahlawulwa ngemali

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yotyalo-mali, amabhalansi e-TARGET2, iibhajethi
ezingekho sesikweni ezifana ne-ESM, i-ESF kunye nayo

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nayiphi na enye into ekuthiwa ziiphakheji zokuhlangula.

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Ngoku sisene-asethi ezininzi ezikhethekileyo.

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Ngoko ke le nkqubo sinayo ngoku – ndicinga ukuba
sonke siyavumelana – iza kuwohloka kwaye itshabalale ke.

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Kuba kungafuneka kubekho ukukhula koqoqosho lwehlabathi nge-10
ukuya kwi-15 pesenti kuwo onke amazwe

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kwisithuba seminyaka engama-50 ezayo, ukuze
sikwazi nokufumana ithuba lokuhlawula elo tyala.

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Kwaye ayisiyiyo leyo icebo likarhulumente,
ukubuyisa ityala lesizwe ngaxa lithile;

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endaweni yoko, yinto echaseneyo eyenzekayo.

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Kwaye ukuba ngoku sijongene notshintsho lwemali, uhlaziyo lwemali
nezinto ezinjalo, endithi yinto enokwenzeka

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kakhulu, ngoko ke kufuneka sithathele ingqalelo
ngokwembali ukuba into abantu bonke abayicingayo ayiyonyani:

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Ngethemba kuza kubakho uhlaziyo lwemali
kungekudala, ndiya kuba ndikhululekile kwiityala zam.

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Kukho into eyahluke ngokupheleleyo eyinyani. Sinemithetho
yokuhlolwa ngokutsha kwamatyala, oko kukuthi

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umba wenzuzo yokuqikelela kwintengiso yamatyala
ezindlu kunye nomba werhafu yenzuzo yokuqikelela.

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Loo nto imalunga nama-50 ekhulwini kuba i-asethi
iguqulwa ngendlela eyahlukileyo kunexabiso lemali qha.

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Kwaye ke oku akusebenzi kurhulumente nakwii-bhanki, kodwa
kusetyenziswa ngolu hlobo kwiinkampani nakuthi thina bemi.

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Imithetho isasebenza, kwaye ezi zizinto eziphambili kum
kwicandelo leenkqubo zemali, ekufuneka ngoku nathi sizilungise.

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Kwaye nokuba ke siza kufumana imali enomgangatho wegolide okanye
ingenamgangatho... Mhlawumbi siza kwazisa nomgangatho

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wegolide oguquguqukayo, okuthetha ukuba kuphela ipesenti ethile
yezibonelelo zemali zehlabathi ixhaswe yimpahla ephathekayo.

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Nokuba yigolide, isilivere okanye enye into kusaza kubonakala,
kodwa ndikholelwa ngokuqinileyo ukuba sidinga uhlobo oluthile

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lwendlela esinxulumanisa nesiphumo soqoqosho esiyinyani,
kwaye kufuneka siphinde siwushiye ngasemva umgaqo-nkqubo

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wethu wangoku wezoqoqosho, osekwe kuphela ekukhuleni.

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Mhlawumbi oku nako kuboniswe kwimeko yembali.

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Ngokubona kwam, kwaye oku kuphela ngaphandle xa
kuziwa kwimicimbi yemali, kukho amandla athile

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angabonakaliyo awacwangcisa le nkqubo ngaxa lithile.

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Loo nto isizisa eJekyll Island ngo-1913, xa kwathathwa isigqibo
sokumisa iFederal Reserve ngoluhlobo lokunyathela ngamandla

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ngurhulumente wangelo xesha – onke amalungu ePalamente
ayeseholideyini yeKrisimesi kwaye neesenetha

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zazikwiphulo. Yaye yonke loo nto yatyhalelwa
phambili ngabantu abambalwa abakhethiweyo kuphela.

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Kukho kwakhona le ngcinga ejikelezayo yokuba
bekukho abagxeki abambalwa bale nkqubo

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kwiTitanic, kwaye nabo "balahliwe" ngale ndlela.

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Ingaba la magunya asemva kwemigqomo, endingakwaziyo ukuwabiza
ngokweenkcukacha ngoku, ngabom abeke le nkqubo

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ngale ndlela yokuba sihlulwe kwezi mbono
zahlukeneyo, ngaloo ndlela befihla abanini-gunya bokwenene?

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Mhlawumbi ungayithatha kancinci le ngcamango.

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Ewe, ewe, kuqala, ndiva ukungakhululeki okuthile kuba,
ngokwembono yezemali noqoqosho, kudale isiphithiphithi

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esikhulu apha, esithi mhlawumbi kufuneke silungiswe kancinci.

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Ngoko ke izinto ezininzi ziye zadityaniswa – ukunyuka
kwamaxabiso, ukwehla kwamaxabiso, ukukhula koqoqosho, iingxaki –

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yonke into ifakwe esityeni esinye ngokungathi kunesizathu
sinye kuphela, ukunyuka kwamaxabiso okanye ukwehla

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kwamaxabiso okanye into efana naleyo, kodwa akunjalo ngokwenene.

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Endaweni yoko, ekufuneka siqonde kukuba nanini na
kusetyenziswa ungenelelo olukhohlisayo, icala elinye

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lixhamla kwaye elinye liyenzakaliswa. Loo nto iyavakala.

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Ukuba ndinyusa ixabiso lemali kumntu othile, ukwehla
kwexabiso, ngoko omnye umntu oboleke imali kwaye kufuneka

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abuyise ixabiso eliphezulu lokwenyani uya kuba nengxaki.

54:30.012 --> 54:32.520
Ngoku ke sifika kumcimbi weJekyll Island njalo njalo.

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Kanye le yinto engafanele yenzeke ngokwembono yabemi.

54:38.039 --> 54:45.397
Okuthetha ukuthi, iqela elincinci, ikartheli, lihlangana lize
lithi, siza kufumana imvume, kwaye ngabantu kuphela abaya

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kuyifumana, yokwenza imali, kwaye urhulumente akasibeki
nje kuphela ngale mvume, kodwa ukwayinyanzela wonke

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umntu ukuba amkele ukuba ngabantu kuphela abanokwenza imali.

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Kufana nokuba xa ndinebhokisi yamakhuphoni
etheko, ndingakhetha ukuba ngubani ofumana lawo.

55:01.122 --> 55:07.940
Abahlobo bam kunye nabantu endibaziyo bafumana iivawutsha
simahla, bazifumana nje ngolo hlobo, baze abanye bahlawule

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kancinci ngaphezulu ukuze bazifumane, kwaye ukuba ekugqibeleni
utywala okanye nantoni na iphela, ndinika abanye

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iivawutsha ezininzi zezinye izinto, ndisazi ukuba abazukufumana
nto ngazo kuba utywala okanye itheko sele luphelile phantse.

55:22.440 --> 55:29.033
Kwaye yile mdibi. Ngababhanki abadibana
eJekyll Island abenze ukuba oku kwenzeke.

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Kwaye bathi ngenxa yokuba sithi sodwa abanemali kwaye ngoku
sikhuthaza urhulumente ukuba asebenzise imali yethu kuphela

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ngeenjongo zoqoqosho kwaye ngokwenene
akhuphe igolide ekujikelezisweni, urhulumente uya

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kusihlala esisindisa kwaye uya kusixhomekeka.

55:46.426 --> 55:54.163
Kwaye yiyo leyo ingxubakaxaka yokwenene. Oku kwenzekileyo apha
kukuba, abadali bemali, oosomali ababethe

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phantsi apho, bakhululwe kumngcipheko wokuba
kufuneke bathwale uxanduva lwako ngandlela ithile.

56:01.609 --> 56:07.770
Kwaye ke ngo-1971, uNixon wabhengeza ukuba iUnited States ayinayo
imali yokuhlawula amatyala ayo waza wathi, mamela, sinixabisile,

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asikwazi ukuhlawula, sidale imali engaphezulu kunale sinayo,
kunale simele ukuba nayo, kwaye asikwazi

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ukuhlawula ngegolide, ngoko ke ndiza kuthi okwangoku ndiza
kuyikhulula idola kwixheba legolide okwethutyana.

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Yiloo nto kuphela ayenzileyo, ubhengeze ukuba uwohlokile.

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Kwaye kule ntsilelo, abantu bathi – ngoku andisabotshelelwanga,
ngoku eli qela labucala lababhanki baseNew York

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lingenza imali eninzi kangangoko lifuna, abasenabo umngcipheko.
Kuba akufuneki banike nto njengembuyekezo, akukho nto!

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Ungaqhubeka ushicilela iirisithi,
njengakwirejista yemali yeeirisithi...

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Oko kuthetha ukuba, ukuba abantu ngoku bafuna ukuya ekhaya baze
bathi, kwibhokisi yee-voucher... Ngoku ndibuyisele

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ii-euro okanye iidola zethu esazipha wena, uya kuthi,
hayi, hayi, kubhaliwe apha ukuba ufumana kuphela iivoucher.

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Ungahamba neresithi yakho, ndiza kukunika entsha.

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Uthi, esenza umdlalo, ndiyazi na ukuba kuza kubakho enye
itheko kunyaka ozayo? Masibone, asazi, ungahamba nayo.

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Kwaye yiyo kanye leyo ingxaki! Kwaye igolide iyakukhusela
koko. Kukho nezinye izinto ezinokukhusela nakoko. Kodwa igolide

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isoloko ingqineka ithembeke ngokukodwa kuyo yonke imbali.

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Kwaye igolide ayizange yoyise ukholo kuyo kuyo yonke imbali.

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Kwaye leyo yingxoxo nje yentengiso yokuba
igolide ingaphinda isetyenziswe ukubuyisela

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olu thembeko lisisiseko kwimali kwasekuqaleni.

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Oko kusandul' ukutshitshwa ngemali yangoku.

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Kufuneka siyigxeke into yokuba abantu
balawula abanye abantu. Yiyo leyo ingxaki yokwenene.

57:35.292 --> 57:42.990
Kwaye into esinokuyithetha ngokusemthethweni
okubonakalayo kwe-US Federal Reserve yindlela umthetho

57:42.990 --> 57:47.548
otyalelwa ngayo umisebenzisweni kwihlabathi namhlanje.

57:47.548 --> 57:50.566
Inkqubo yethu yezomthetho ihloniphekile.

57:50.566 --> 57:55.410
Ewe, umthetho wenzelwa nje liqela elithile labantu
abathi ke ukuba ukufudumeza ngoku kunyanzelekile.

57:55.410 --> 57:59.209
Kwaye ke andonwabanga ngaloo nto ukuba
inkqubo yam yokufudumeza ayisafanelekanga.

57:59.209 --> 58:05.286
Ewe, yayinjalo kanye ngelo xesha. I-euro yasinyanzelwa ngaphandle
kokuba sibe nalo naliphi na ithuba

58:05.286 --> 58:11.446
lokuchasa. Ngamanye amazwi, ngumthetho onyanzelweyo.
Kwaye umthetho onyanzelweyo awunabulungisa.

58:11.446 --> 58:20.276
Umthetho uyavunyelwana ngamaqela angenela isivumelwano, kwaye ezi
zivumelwano ziquka into yokuba zonke iinkalo ziyathathelwa

58:20.276 --> 58:28.964
ingqalelo, nokuba umntu uyavuma ngokuzithandela, hayi, njengoko
kwakusenzeka kwixesha elidlulileyo kwaye njengoko sivumele

58:28.964 --> 58:33.436
namhlanje, ukuba umthetho ubekwa ebantwini liqela elincinci.

58:33.436 --> 58:37.850
Ngoko ke, ngubani oza kukhupha imali elungileyo
nelungeleleneyo yexesha elizayo? Mhlawumbi

58:37.850 --> 58:41.420
ayizukuba yi-ECB, akunjalo? Erich, wena ucinga ntoni?

58:41.420 --> 58:48.685
Ewe, hayi kwaphela, kuba nokuba kukwale nkqubo yemali yangoku
engenayo imigangatho yegolide, sixhomekeke kwisixa esincinci

58:48.685 --> 58:54.104
sabantu abanamandla, endibabiza ngokuba
zii-NWOlites – hayi nje i-elites, kodwa i-New World

58:54.104 --> 58:57.610
Order kunye ne-elites, amandla asemva kwemiboniso.

58:57.610 --> 59:05.124
Abakwa-NWOlites balawula ukudalwa kwemali namhlanje kwaye
baphinda bamisele icala le-geopolitics, iGroup of Third,

59:05.124 --> 59:08.972
kunye nomgaqo-nkqubo weelayisensi weebhanki ezingoovimba.

59:08.972 --> 59:16.806
Ezi azizizo iibhanki ezingundoqo ezizimeleyo; zonke
zizaphulo-mali. Oku kuqala kwiBhanki yaseTshetshi,

59:16.806 --> 59:25.893
ndikholelwa ukuba ngo-1792, xa urhulumente waseTshetshi
wanikezela amandla okukhupha imali yakhe kubantu abazimeleyo.

59:25.893 --> 59:35.748
Ngoko ke oku kubuyela umva kakhulu. Kwaye nokuba siyidinga i-ECB
okanye i-FED, sifuna nje iinkqubo zembuyekezo ezizinzileyo.

59:35.748 --> 59:41.394
Siyibiza nje ngokuba yinkqubo yezemali okanye
inkqubo yemali okanye inkqubo yeshishini lemali;

59:41.394 --> 59:45.063
sifuna nje imali okanye umgaqo wolungiso lokusebenza.

59:45.063 --> 59:52.328
Ungakwenza oko ngoku ngemali engenaxhaso, nangemali enexhaso,
kodwa malunga nombuso wegolide, ukubuyela kulo ngokufutshane,

59:52.328 --> 59:57.647
Ndikhumbula iMbuso yamaRoma, apho ndafumana khona impahla
yamadoda eyenzelwe mna ngokukodwa nge-ounce

59:57.647 --> 01:00:03.548
yegolide, eyayiyi-tunic, izihlangu zesikhumba, isithsaba
se-laurel kunye nebhawudi ebomvu eyayihamba nayo.

01:00:03.548 --> 01:00:07.182
Kwaye namhlanje, nge-ounce yegolide,
ndingafumana nesuti yamadoda entle eyenziwe

01:00:07.182 --> 01:00:10.061
ngokweemilinganiselo, kunye nezihlangu ezifanelekileyo.

01:00:10.061 --> 01:00:16.511
Ngoko ke igolide isoloko inexabiso elinye;
ziimali kuphela ezonyuka okanye zehla ngexabiso.

01:00:16.511 --> 01:00:19.804
Ngoko ke, ingcinga yokuba igolide ngoku iza kuphindaphindeka
kabini, kashumi, okanye nkqu ngekhékile,

01:00:19.804 --> 01:00:23.120
okanye ukuba isilivere nezinye iintsimbi nazo
ziza kwenza okufanayo, bubuxoki obupheleleyo.

01:00:23.120 --> 01:00:31.564
Kukanye iimali ze-fiat eziphelele zalahlekelwa lixabiso elikhulu
kwezi ntsuku, kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba ukuba besinoburhulumente

01:00:31.564 --> 01:00:38.745
bokwenene obunentswela-ntlalo yabantu balo entliziyweni,
ngoko, ngokoluvo lwam, bungade busebenzise loo mali

01:00:38.745 --> 01:00:43.303
ngokusebenzisa inkqubo efanelekileyo, enobulungisa nenesimilo.

01:00:43.303 --> 01:00:47.784
Ngokuqinisekileyo loo nto ingaba yinto enokwenzeka, kodwa
kwelinye icala, uluntu, njengoko usitshoyo,

01:00:47.784 --> 01:00:52.202
lunobuchule obukhulu kangangokuba sihlala
sizifumana iisombululo, kwaye zikho iisombululo phandle.

01:00:52.202 --> 01:00:59.674
Ngoko ke, xa sijonga umbuzo wakho, Robert, ngubani
ochitha imali ngokufanelekileyo? Okanye siyisebenzisela ntoni?

01:00:59.674 --> 01:01:05.120
Kukho imizekelo yale nto. Makhe le
nkqubo zikhuphisane kwaye abantu mabagqibe.

01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:10.263
Kwaye oko kusizisa kwinkqubo
endikholelwa ukuba sele iza kuphunyezwa.

01:01:10.263 --> 01:01:13.798
Sineengxaki ezingxamisekileyo kwinkqubo yezemali.

01:01:13.798 --> 01:01:20.098
Sineengxaki zokungalingani ezivelileyo ngenxa yokuba abantu
beqhathekile, kuba abantu bakholelwa ukuba banokwabela

01:01:20.098 --> 01:01:24.078
abantu imali-mboleko okanye benze imali ngaphandle komngcipheko.

01:01:24.078 --> 01:01:29.974
Babenokwabela i-Ukraine iimali-mboleko,
kwaye kungabikho mntu ubuza ukuba loo mali iza

01:01:29.974 --> 01:01:33.575
kubuyiswa njani; babenokuzenza nje ezinye.

01:01:33.575 --> 01:01:41.379
Kwaye ngoku kusenokwenzeka ukuba le mali
kufuneke itsalwe kwincwadi ngenxa yokuba umbolekwa

01:01:41.379 --> 01:01:45.887
owamkeleyo uthi nje, "Andisakwazi ukuyibuyisa."

01:01:45.887 --> 01:01:51.519
Oku kwenzeka ngoku kwiinkampani
ezingama-20,000 ngonyaka nangaphezulu, eJamani kuphela.

01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:57.115
Izixa ezincinci, izixa ezikhulu,
asazi, kodwa oko kubangela izikhewu.

01:01:57.115 --> 01:02:05.305
Kwaye ngoku sinengxaki kwishiti yobalansi yebhanki kuba
bebenethemba lokuba imali iza kubuya, usomashishini uXYZ,

01:02:05.305 --> 01:02:12.697
ongqongqo ngoku, okanye umntu othwele imali ongenile
ekungqongqweni, okanye i-Ukraine, engayibuyisiyo,

01:02:12.697 --> 01:02:22.297
mhlawumbi naseFransi kungekudala, nayo engenakuyibuyisa, njalo
njalo... Ishiti yabo yobalansi yebhanki ayichanekanga ngoku.

01:02:22.297 --> 01:02:28.928
Nokuba bona ngokwabo abasenayo nayiphi na intsha, nto leyo ke ibe
kwicala lezibophelelo, kuba ukuba baphulukana nje nezinto

01:02:28.928 --> 01:02:34.589
ezixabisekileyo kwicala lezinto ezixabisekileyo – kuba
imali abasathembe ukuyifumana kwelinye iqela yinto

01:02:34.589 --> 01:02:38.219
exabisekileyo kubo, kodwa kwibhanki – kufuneka benze into ngayo.

01:02:38.219 --> 01:02:45.093
Kunjalo nakwii-bhanki ezingundoqo, kwaye ii-bhanki ezingundoqo
zinokuzikhupha kule meko ngokulula nangobuchule

01:02:45.093 --> 01:02:52.030
ngokuvuselela ixabiso lephetshana kuphela
elinokulinganiswa kwiishiti zabo zemali, eliyintsimbi yegolide.

01:02:52.030 --> 01:02:56.719
Ungacebisa ntoni, ibiya kuba yintoni
imboniselo yakho efanelekileyo yenkqubo yemali kwixesha

01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:59.164
elizayo enokukhokelela kuxolo nasekusebenzeni?

01:02:59.164 --> 01:03:05.101
Nabani na angayibukela ifilimu, "The Miracle of
Wörgl". Yifilimu entle ngokwenene, kwaye iyinyani kakhulu.

01:03:05.101 --> 01:03:11.906
Ndiyayazi ibali laseWörgl, kwaye yinyani ngokwenene
indlela inkqubo engenanzala eyakhupha ngesiquphe uluntu

01:03:11.906 --> 01:03:15.687
oluncinci lwaseWörgl kwingxaki yezoqoqosho yehlabathi.

01:03:15.687 --> 01:03:21.940
Amakhulu ezinye iindawo zokuhlala zafuna ke
ukuzimanya, de yonke le nto yathintelwa ngamandla.

01:03:21.940 --> 01:03:27.576
Ngoko ke ekugqibeleni, yonke into ixhomekeke kumazinga
enzala. Inkqubo enenzala isoloko ikhokelela emfazweni.

01:03:27.576 --> 01:03:33.865
UNjingalwazi Gustav Ruhland wabhala ngale nto kwiminyaka eyi-150
eyadlulayo kwincwadi yakhe ethi "System of Political Economy".

01:03:33.865 --> 01:03:38.776
Wabhala ukuba imfazwe yindlela
abantu abazizityebi abenza ngayo imali.

01:03:38.776 --> 01:03:43.440
Ukwabhala nokuba, logama nje sisene-capitalism
esekelwe kwinzala, kuya kuhlala kukho imfazwe.

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:48.017
Kulula kakhulu, kungenxa yokuba iireyithi zenzala zikhokelela
ngokuzenzekelayo ekubeni abantu babe netyala eligqithisileyo

01:03:48.017 --> 01:03:52.132
elikhula ngokuphindaphindiweyo, kwaye ekugqibeleni
oku kukhokelela emfazweni, apho amazwe alwa omnye nomnye.

01:03:52.132 --> 01:03:56.760
Kuba kubi nangakumbi ngomgangatho
wegolide, kuba ke yonke into iba malunga negolide.

01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.901
Hayi ngenani lemali elingaguqukiyo, kuba
ke ayinakukhula ngokuphindaphindiweyo...

01:03:59.901 --> 01:04:05.913
Ubunikezelo bemali abunakuhlala bungaguquki kuba uqoqosho lukhula
kwaye ubunikezelo bemali kufuneka bulungelelaniswe noqoqosho.

01:04:05.913 --> 01:04:09.402
Yiloo nto kanye ebangela le ngxaki. Yiloo nto
kanye ebangela le ngxaki. Yiyo leyo ingxaki.

01:04:09.402 --> 01:04:13.482
Sisandul' ukubona kumzekelo
weScotland neGreat Britain ukuba akunjalo.

01:04:13.482 --> 01:04:16.701
Kodwa zininzi iimzekelo apho oku kukhokelele kwingxaki nemfazwe.

01:04:16.701 --> 01:04:19.695
Ingakumbi ngokubhekiselele kwingxaki yezoqoqosho yehlabathi,
elandelwa yiMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi –

01:04:19.695 --> 01:04:22.383
asiyonto yenzeke ngamabona-ndenzile ukuba ezi
ziganeko zalandelana ngolu hlobo lukhawulezileyo.

01:04:22.383 --> 01:04:27.230
Ngoko ke i-USA yayikwimeko enzima yezoqoqosho yehlabathi de
kwangowe-1939. Kuphela ngokuzixhobisa kwiMfazwe yesiBini

01:04:27.230 --> 01:04:32.283
yeHlabathi abakwazileyo ukuphuma kuyo; kungenjalo, bebeza
kube basekwimeko enzima yezoqoqosho yehlabathi nanamhlanje.

01:04:32.283 --> 01:04:36.006
Akunakuphuma kwingxaki yokudodobala
kwezoqoqosho enjalo ngaphandle kwemfazwe.

01:04:36.006 --> 01:04:39.837
Ke ngoko, izinto ziya kuqhubeka njengoko bezisoloko zinjalo.

01:04:39.837 --> 01:04:45.694
Kuza kubakho ukuwohloka kwamaxabiso, kulandele imfazwe
enkulu – yonke into iza kutshabalaliswa ize yakhiwe ngokutsha.

01:04:45.694 --> 01:04:50.607
Kuzaphinda kwenzeke. Ndiyayibona iMfazwe yeHlabathi yeSithathu
isiza, kanye njengokuba yafika iMfazwe yeHlabathi yeSibini.

01:04:50.607 --> 01:04:52.923
Inkqubo yile yiyo kanye njengale sinayo namhlanje.

01:04:52.923 --> 01:04:55.678
Ngoku kudalwa iqamza elikhulu lokuqikelela.

01:04:55.678 --> 01:05:00.836
Abantu bayatyhalelwa kukubawa: kufuneka uthenge
izabelo kwaye utyale imali, imali mayisebenze

01:05:00.836 --> 01:05:03.839
ukuze nonke nityebe, okanye yiloo nto bathembisayo.

01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:07.384
Kwaye ukuba kuqhambuka njengoko kwenzeka
ngo-1929, ke siza kuba nendaleko yeziganeko

01:05:07.384 --> 01:05:10.541
efanayo kanye njengaleyo esasinayo ngelo xesha.

01:05:13.878 --> 01:05:22.619
Ungaqalisa mhlawumbi ngokushwankathela
ngokufutshane indlela obona iYurophu ingcono ngayo?

01:05:22.619 --> 01:05:28.930
Ngesithabo, Mnu Magnet. Okokuqala, enkosi
kakhulu ngesimemo – ndonwabile kakhulu ukuba lapha.

01:05:28.930 --> 01:05:38.117
Liwonga elikhulu kum ukuba lapha kwinto endikholelwa
ukuba yiSecond Alternative Forum, iSecond Alternative WEF.

01:05:38.117 --> 01:05:46.120
IJamani kufuneka ibonwe njengenxalenye
yombutho wamazwe aseYurophu, azimeleyo.

01:05:46.120 --> 01:05:54.559
Siyamela imodeli. Siyamela imodeli yamazwe
azimeleyo, anolawulo olupheleleyo, ngamanye

01:05:54.559 --> 01:06:00.014
amazwi, leyo kuthiwa yiYurophu yamazwe angoyise.

01:06:00.014 --> 01:06:11.711
Kwaye simela uhlaziyo, ngokupheleleyo ukudiliza le nkoliso
yoburokrasi, endindikhumbuza kakhulu ngamasalela oManyano

01:06:11.711 --> 01:06:18.756
lwaseSoviet, nokubuyisela uManyano lwaseYurophu kwisisiseko salo.

01:06:18.756 --> 01:06:26.059
Kwaye oko kunokufezekiswa kuphela ngokunciphisa ubhurokrasi,
ngokuphelisa amashumi amawaka ababhurokrat kunye

01:06:26.059 --> 01:06:33.442
nabasebenzi bakarhulumente abacinezela abantu kwaye
befaka izithintelo kumashishini nakubathengi abazimeleyo.

01:06:33.442 --> 01:06:40.088
Oku kuphikisana ngokupheleleyo nengcinga yokhuphiswano
olukhululekileyo, amashishini akhululekileyo kunye

01:06:40.088 --> 01:06:43.948
namalungelo oluntu. Kodwa singafika kuloo nto kungekudala.

01:06:43.948 --> 01:06:53.761
Le nkululeko imi phi phantsi kwalo Mphathiswa wezeMali woyikekayo
uFriedrich Merz, endimthatha njengongakhululekanga kwaphela,

01:06:53.761 --> 01:06:58.784
umntu ongenakwenza nto kwaphela oqhubeka wonakalisa eli lizwe?

01:06:58.784 --> 01:07:01.756
Akukho nzima kwaphela.

01:07:01.756 --> 01:07:07.084
Amaxabiso ethu amandla aphezulu kakhulu. Siyoyiswa
kukhuphiswano lwamazwe ngamazwe kuyo yonke indawo.

01:07:07.084 --> 01:07:10.772
Umqolo wethu lishishini leemoto, i-injini yokutshisa.

01:07:10.772 --> 01:07:16.406
Siphinde saqalisa kwakhona ngale nto yokuvalwa kweenjini
ezitshisayo kwinqanaba le-EU. Kodwa iyaxhaswa ngurhulumente

01:07:16.406 --> 01:07:19.158
waseJamani, ngoko ke akukho nto yenziwayo kwaphela!

01:07:19.158 --> 01:07:23.686
Emva koko sinoMmiselo Wamandla
Ezakhiwo. Nathi sicinga ukuba mhle kakhulu.

01:07:23.686 --> 01:07:30.514
Kwaye ukuba i-CSU ke iqalisa
ukuqhushumbisa izikhululo zamandla enyukliya eBavaria.

01:07:30.514 --> 01:07:34.265
Kufuneka uyicinge, ifana nesaqhwithi esingummangaliso.

01:07:34.265 --> 01:07:41.013
Le yinkxwabelo yoomatshini,
inkxwabelo yetekhnoloji kwilizwe lethu.

01:07:41.013 --> 01:07:49.791
Ngokwembali, oku kundikhumbuza iphulo
elinye likaMao Zedong eChina yobukomanisi.

01:07:49.791 --> 01:07:57.697
Kwakukho umntu ngaphambili, uMao, othi, ngoku iza
kwenziwa ngolu hlobo, baze bonke bamlandela benza njalo.

01:07:57.697 --> 01:08:03.675
Igama elingundoqo: intshukumo enkulu phambili. Yintoni
eyahlukileyo eJamani namhlanje, kwenziwa ntoni apho?

01:08:03.675 --> 01:08:08.642
Izixhobo ezixabisa izigidi zeeponti
ziyatshatyalaliswa nje emva kokuba ixabiso lazo

01:08:08.642 --> 01:08:11.488
lehlile, zitshatyalaliswe ngokungenakubuyiswa.

01:08:11.488 --> 01:08:19.931
Izikhululo zombane zenukliya ezisebenzayo, ezingakhuphi khona
ikhabhoni emoyeni, ziyadutyulwa, kwaye ilizwe elifana neJamani,

01:08:19.931 --> 01:08:24.794
ilizwe elihambele phambili kwezoshishino,
lixhomekeke kubonelelo lombane

01:08:24.794 --> 01:08:29.752
oluguquguqukayo kunye namaxabiso amandla anyukayo kakhulu.

01:08:29.752 --> 01:08:40.415
Obu buthathaka wamandla ahlaziyekayo kwakudla
ngokuhlawulelwa yigas yaseRashiya engabizi.

01:08:40.415 --> 01:08:43.689
Ngoko ke, oko kundibuyisela kumbuzo waseYurophu.

01:08:43.689 --> 01:08:54.022
Yintoni na le iphoqelela iinkokeli zaseYurophu ukuba
zingenelele kangaka, zichase iRashiya, kangangokuba iimfuno

01:08:54.022 --> 01:09:00.129
zesizwe sethu azisameliwanga kwaphela, kodwa ke ziyonakaliswa?

01:09:00.129 --> 01:09:08.270
Kuba zimbini izinto ekufuneka siziqonde. Asinakwenza imfazwe
eYurophu ngaphandle kweRashiya, yinto enye leyo, kwaye

01:09:08.270 --> 01:09:16.905
enye yeyokuba uqoqosho lwethu alukwazi ukukhuphisana ngaphandle
kwegesi yendalo yaseRashiya – lulwano olulula kakhulu.

01:09:16.905 --> 01:09:24.205
I-digitalisation ingaba lithuba kwabo baselulawulweni. Ubuncinci,
le nto kuye kuxoxwa ngayo apha namhlanje, kukuba imali yebhanki

01:09:24.205 --> 01:09:31.751
engundoqo yedijithali, edityaniswe nesazisi sedijithali, iza kuba
luhlobo loxinzelelo elijoliswe kubemi kwanakwamaqela aphikisayo.

01:09:31.751 --> 01:09:38.091
Ewe kunjalo, kwaye yiyo loo nto abantu
beyifuna. Ndithetha ukuthi, yonke into idibene.

01:09:38.091 --> 01:09:46.090
Ewe, ndiqinisekile ngokuqinileyo ukuba oko
sikubonileyo ngexesha lamanyathelo e-coronavirus yipolitiki,

01:09:46.090 --> 01:09:49.938
nokuba ibiyingxelo yokulinga into enkulu kunaleyo.

01:09:49.938 --> 01:09:55.967
Iinkqubo zavavanywa ngononophelo olukhulu ukuze kubonwe ukuba
amanyathelo ocinezelo anokuthathwa aye kude kangakanani na

01:09:55.967 --> 01:10:02.196
ukuthintela amalungelo oluntu, nokuba abantu bangathobela oku
kangakanani ngokusetyenziswa ngobuqhetseba, ngokuvusa ingxolo,

01:10:02.196 --> 01:10:05.041
nangokupapasha iinkcazo ezikhethekileyo kumajelo eendaba.

01:10:05.041 --> 01:10:10.584
Konke oku ibiyinxalenye yobuqhetseba bezopolitiko
namajelo eendaba bokutshabalalisa abantu

01:10:10.584 --> 01:10:15.014
ngokusisigxina ngesinye sezona zibhanxa zikhulu zakha zaxelwa.

01:10:15.014 --> 01:10:20.220
Yindlela efanayo kanye naleyo yokoyika utshintsho lwemozulu.

01:10:20.220 --> 01:10:28.478
Ngoko ke, nantsi ke le nto, ooh, ngoku kufuneka sibeke iliso
kubemi! Loo nto isingisa ngqo kulawulo olubeke iliso. Kutheni?

01:10:28.478 --> 01:10:34.681
Ewe, awufuni kubakho bemi abangathandekiyo! Ufuna ibe
njengencwadi kaGeorge Orwell ethi 1984 –

01:10:34.681 --> 01:10:41.370
uyabona ngokucacileyo – apho kudaliswa utshaba
lwangaphandle, oluqikelelwayo, kwaye abantu bejongwa.

01:10:41.370 --> 01:10:48.425
UAldous Huxley naye unomdla kakhulu-khulu, njengoRay Bradbury,
nencwadi yakhe iFahrenheit 451 – ziincwadi

01:10:48.425 --> 01:10:56.942
ezimangalisayo ezizoba umfanekiso wexesha elizayo elibi
nelingathandekiyo, endinokuthi sisongela ngesantya esipheleleyo.

01:10:56.942 --> 01:11:05.307
UVon der Leyen uphupha ebusuku ukuba uyakwazi ukufunda imiyalezo
yethu, ngoko ke eyam ifundwa yonke, kwaye ndicinga ukuba neyakho

01:11:05.307 --> 01:11:12.376
nayo iyafundwa. Ayikho kakhulu, kodwa bekungakuhle kangakanani
ukuba akukho namnye kuthi onokuhlawula ngemali

01:11:12.376 --> 01:11:19.455
engxoweni – ukunyaniseka, akukho namnye kuni
onokuhlawula ngemali engxoweni – kuba ngoko ningalawulwa.

01:11:19.455 --> 01:11:27.728
Kwaye ke nantsi into: ukuba awalandeli umculo wabo basemagunyeni,
ukuba ubusitshilo ngexesha lobhubhane we-coronavirus, "Heyi,

01:11:27.728 --> 01:11:36.197
andizukugonywa," ucinga ukuba ngekwenzeke ntoni ukuba babenamandla
okwenjenjalo, umntu ofana noSöder eBavaria, okanye umntu ofana

01:11:36.197 --> 01:11:40.454
noLauterbach, nto leyo bebenokuyenza kwabo bangagonywanga...

01:11:40.454 --> 01:11:50.255
Ii-akhawunti zivaliwe, mhlawumbi ubungalele
phantsi kwebhulorho, kuba i-euro yedijithali ayinanto

01:11:50.255 --> 01:11:55.130
ingaphaya kwendlela yokucinezela kwezopolitiko.

01:11:55.130 --> 01:12:02.273
Ukuba ungumchasi, ungavalwa kwaye iimpahla zakho
zingathathwa kuwe; zinokuthathwa nje ukuba

01:12:02.273 --> 01:12:06.388
ubukho bakho busekwisixhobo se-elektroniki kuphela.

01:12:06.388 --> 01:12:14.947
Yiloo nto kanye eyenzekayo ekugqibeleni! Sisandul' ukuva elinye
iqela lithetha ngempahla, akusayi kubakho mpahla yaseNtshona.

01:12:14.947 --> 01:12:18.538
Omnye uthi ufuna ukuthenga
ipropathi, omnye umcebisa ukuba angayithengi.

01:12:18.538 --> 01:12:22.863
Nam ndiyavumelana nesi sesibini, apho
ndithetha ngokucacileyo ukuba nabani na othenga

01:12:22.863 --> 01:12:25.600
ipropathi ngoku unyanzelekile ukuba afake imorgethe.

01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:31.711
Sibone ukuba oku kunokwenzeka ngokukhawuleza kangakanani na
eJamani ngoMthetho wokuLinganisa uMthwalo kwiminyaka yoo-1950.

01:12:31.711 --> 01:12:37.953
Kuza kubakho imortgage enyanzelekileyo kuyo,
ukuze uyihlawule nayo, kwaye yiyo yonke loo mali.

01:12:37.953 --> 01:12:41.401
Ukulawulwa kwemali iya kuthi ke ikhokelele
nakwimithintelo yegolide; imithintelo

01:12:41.401 --> 01:12:43.853
yegolide isingqongqo esandulela ulawulo lwemali.

01:12:43.853 --> 01:12:50.123
Ukuba i-euro iyaqhubeka nokuwa, kwaye iza kuqhubeka. I-euro
isaphila ngenxa yokuthengwa kwayo ngenkxaso yee-bhanki

01:12:50.123 --> 01:12:56.472
ezingoovimba, ingakumbi iibhanki ezingoovimba zangaphandle,
ezithengisa iimali zazo, iimali ezinamandla, nge-euro.

01:12:56.472 --> 01:13:05.650
Kusafuneka bayithathe le nkunkuma, yonke le mali
ingeyomgangatho. Emva koko kuza ukuvalwa kwegolide.

01:13:05.650 --> 01:13:12.002
Oko kukuthi, sikubone oku kwixesha elandela
iMfazwe yokuQala yeHlabathi nangexesha layo,

01:13:12.002 --> 01:13:16.034
ngeebhondi zemfazwe kunye notshintshiselwano ngogqabi.

01:13:16.034 --> 01:13:23.454
Kodwa emva koko abakwazanga ukwenza loo nto kwakhona,
ngoko ke ayisakwazi ukutshintshwa, kwaye oko kunxulumene

01:13:23.454 --> 01:13:27.634
nenyani yokuba abantu abasakwazi ukuphuma kwimali yesizwe.

01:13:27.634 --> 01:13:30.710
Kwaye seso isizathu abantu abafuna i-euro yedijithali.

01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:37.454
Siyazi ukuba lixabiso elingenaxabiso, liyimali ye-fiat,
ikhompyutheni kuphela, kwaye bafuna ukubeka uxinzelelo

01:13:37.454 --> 01:13:41.061
ebantwini ukuze bangabi sakwazi ukuvakalisa izimvo zabo.

01:13:41.061 --> 01:13:45.188
Ke i-akhawunti zabo ziya kuthintelwa ukuba
zingasebenzi. Kwaye kwelinye icala, abayi kuphinda

01:13:45.188 --> 01:13:47.353
bakwazi ukuphuma kule mali, kule mali ye-fiat.

01:13:47.353 --> 01:13:57.969
Le spectrum iphakathi kwabaphambili nabasekunene eneneni
ayiseyiyo ingxaki, okanye ubuncinci ayiyiyo ingxaki yanamhlanje.

01:13:57.969 --> 01:14:08.641
Umba wexesha lethu eneneni yingxabano
phakathi kwenkululeko nengcinezelo karhulumente.

01:14:08.641 --> 01:14:13.793
Yiloo nto, nyani! Kum ngokwam.

01:14:13.793 --> 01:14:19.020
Kwaye ndisoloko ndisazi ukuba kuza kwenzeka ntoni emva koko,
ewe, ndithetha ukuthi, kutheni i-AfD, kutheni betshoyo lonto,

01:14:19.020 --> 01:14:21.629
singabantu abakwicala lasekunene apha nazo zonke ezo zinto.

01:14:21.629 --> 01:14:26.266
Ewe, nam ndingumgcini-sithethe wasekunene,
kodwa kufuneka usoloko ubeka izinto eziphambili.

01:14:26.266 --> 01:14:34.311
Kwaye eyona nto ndiyibeka phambili yile
yokusebenzela ukuqinisekisa ukuba siyoyisa urhulumente

01:14:34.311 --> 01:14:38.800
ophazamisayo, ukuze sigcine amalungelo ethu abantu.

01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.042
Yiloo nto kanye eyandikhuthaza ukuba ndingene kwezopolitiko.

01:14:42.042 --> 01:14:45.424
Seso isizathu sokuba ndihleli apha namhlanje.

01:14:49.020 --> 01:14:51.099
Andisoze ndiyilibale le nto ubomi bam bonke.

01:14:51.099 --> 01:14:54.238
Kwaye bonke abo basebenzisa ngokungakhathali igama
elithi 'mfazwe' mabaye kumgca ongaphambili onjalo.

01:14:54.238 --> 01:15:02.085
Kufuneka babone ukuba kwenzeka ntoni apho kwabo
basemgceni waphambili ngqo, nakwabo basemaphandleni.

01:15:02.085 --> 01:15:09.205
Oko akunakucingelwa, kwaye kukungakhathali
kakhulu nokucinga ngokuqala into enjalo kwakhona.

01:15:09.205 --> 01:15:18.835
Xa uzoba lo mzobo weYurophu efanelekileyo, ungangeza phi kuqala?

01:15:18.835 --> 01:15:24.449
I-EU mayisuke. Lelo ibango lam elingagungqiyo.

01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:34.648
Kule minyaka idlulileyo, ngokusebenzisa izivumelwano neengxaki,
i-EU izimisele njengamandla okuthimba eYurophu kwaye, ngokoluvo

01:15:34.648 --> 01:15:43.964
lwam, ithimba eli lizwekazi ngendlela enenkohlakalo
neyobuzwilakhe, icinezela iinkcubeko zalo, icinezela inkululeko,

01:15:43.964 --> 01:15:50.549
icinezela inkululeko yokuthetha – kwaye
ibuyisela eli lizwekazi kwindawo eyayifuna

01:15:50.549 --> 01:15:55.549
ngokwenene ukulihlangula kuyo, kanye kumanxuwa emfazwe.

01:15:55.549 --> 01:16:01.526
Kwaye yile kanye indawo i-EU ekhokelela kuyo
iYurophu kwakhona. Kwaye le EU kufuneka irhoxiswe.

01:16:01.526 --> 01:16:06.401
Yingqikelelo engenanto yakwenza neYurophu.

01:16:06.401 --> 01:16:13.974
Liqela labakhabinethi abazikhwebulayo abathi mhlawumbi
abasazi ncam ukuba kwenzeka ntoni eYurophu, ngaphandle

01:16:13.974 --> 01:16:18.585
kwaseBrussels, kwiindawo zabo ezizivaleleyo, kwiibhubhu zabo.

01:16:18.585 --> 01:16:23.155
Loo nto ibiya kuba sityholo sam
sokuqala, kwaye andinakuviirisa kulo mba.

01:16:23.155 --> 01:16:31.551
Kuba awunakuyiguqula le EU; kule meko,
kufuneka uyichithe ngokupheleleyo le nkqubo.

01:16:31.551 --> 01:16:38.057
Okuzakuphuma kuko ngumbuzo omkhulu,
kodwa izinto zingaphucuka kuphela.

01:16:38.057 --> 01:16:45.130
Kwaye izizwe zaseYurophu ziye zathobela
imiyalelo yale Manyano yaseYurophu amashumi eminyaka.

01:16:45.130 --> 01:16:52.949
Kwaye ndityhola oosopolitiki bethu ngokungcatsha ilizwe,
ngokungcatsha abemi baseYurophu, kuba basithengisile

01:16:52.949 --> 01:16:57.644
baza basingcatsha, ngenxa yalo naluphi na uncedo abanalo.

01:16:57.644 --> 01:17:02.300
IYurophu ngokwenene iliziko lobubi ngalo mzuzu.

01:17:02.300 --> 01:17:08.541
Le yindawo apho kuvela khona konke
okubi. IYurophu ayinakulungiswa.

01:17:08.541 --> 01:17:13.369
Le Yurophu siyifumanayo namhlanje kufuneka
ngokuqinisekileyo inyamalale ngokupheleleyo.

01:17:13.369 --> 01:17:22.729
Ngale ndlela, andinguye umxhasi omkhulu waseYurophu, le
nkolangoma yoburokrasi, esi sakhiwo sobuzali

01:17:22.729 --> 01:17:32.162
esizicingela sodwa, endisibona njengeprojekthi
yobukhosi baseMelika ebanyanzeliswe kumazwe aseYurophu.

01:17:32.162 --> 01:17:37.777
Kucwangciswe kakuhle, kulungiselelwe ngokumangalisayo – ndiza
kuthetha okungakumbi ngaloo nto kungekudala, xa ndifumana ithuba.

01:17:37.777 --> 01:17:43.491
Ngoko ke andingomxhasi omkhulu
weYurophu. Hayi nyani, awunakuba njalo.

01:17:43.491 --> 01:17:53.006
Akukho nto intle enokuthethwa ngobu bupolitiki
bokwenzi-kenzi obuboniswa phambi kwamehlo ethu.

01:17:53.006 --> 01:17:55.431
Eli lixesha lokungabikho kwanto.

01:17:55.431 --> 01:18:05.768
Ukuba ujonge iintetho, amaLungu ePalamente anemizuzu emibini,
nemizuzu emithathu, ze ke imakrofoni icinywe, ingakumbi xa

01:18:05.768 --> 01:18:13.349
ethetha into engahambelaniyo noluvo lukaNksk.
von der Leyen, ongoku exakeke ziinkcukacha

01:18:13.349 --> 01:18:17.991
zezicwangciso zobuntlola be-EU engqondweni yakhe.

01:18:17.991 --> 01:18:25.053
Ungakubona konke kuye, ungakufunda emehlweni akhe,
iingcinga zobuzwilakhe ezihamba engqondweni yakhe.

01:18:25.053 --> 01:18:30.196
Le ayinakuba yeyoYurophu
inokunqwenelwa nguye nabani na, ingakumbi mna.

01:18:30.196 --> 01:18:38.356
Andikwazi nokucinga ukuba ngabantu bani abangafuna iYurophu
enjalo, ngaphandle kwabo banomdla kuphela kumagunya nakwiminqweno

01:18:38.356 --> 01:18:44.297
yobukoloniyali, ekulungiseleleni iimfazwe
ezintsha okanye ubuncinci ekulungiseleleni uhlobo

01:18:44.297 --> 01:18:48.072
oluthile lwamandla omkhosi. Leyo asiyiyo iYurophu yam.

01:18:48.072 --> 01:18:53.685
Ndingayiphendula loo nto lula kakhulu kum:
zivalwe zonke iigunya ze-EU ngoko nangoko,

01:18:53.685 --> 01:18:57.137
ngokupheleleyo kwaye kungabikho nto iyitshintshayo.

01:18:57.137 --> 01:19:02.245
Bonke amagosa aseYurophu agxothiwe,
ngokupheleleyo kwaye ngaphandle kokufakelwa.

01:19:02.245 --> 01:19:05.472
Asiyidingi kwaphela le nkqubo yoburhulumente.

01:19:05.472 --> 01:19:13.371
Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba thina apha kule qonga senza impazamo –
kwaye le yintshikilelo jikelele endithanda

01:19:13.371 --> 01:19:23.840
ukuzibhekisa kuyo – yokuwela kwipropaganda endikhankanyile
ngaphambili ngokucinga ukuba le Yurophu, le EU, ingalungiswa.

01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:29.525
I-EU ayinakulungiswa, kanye
njengohotele egcweleyo efuna ukulungiswa.

01:19:29.525 --> 01:19:33.025
Akunakwenzeka; asinakuguqula nto apha.

01:19:33.025 --> 01:19:37.226
Singayisusa kuphela, kwaye siyisuse ngokwenene ingabuyiswanga!

01:19:37.226 --> 01:19:44.532
Abemi abayidingi nanye le nto, kuba akukho nanye
kuyo enegalelo kubomi, kwinkululeko okanye kwipropathi.

01:19:44.532 --> 01:19:46.347
Ezi zixabiso ezingabeka esichengeni.

01:19:46.347 --> 01:19:55.371
I-EU ayiphuculanga nto nangayiphi na indlela
ebalulekileyo, kodwa yenze yonke into yaba nzima ngakumbi.

01:19:57.808 --> 01:20:02.527
Serge, ubusihleli kanye ecaleni kukaMartin Sellner.

01:20:02.527 --> 01:20:08.259
Xa uhleli apha naye eqongeni kwaye kufanele uthethe naye malunga
nokubuyiselwa kwabantu kwilizwe labo, awumoyiki na

01:20:08.259 --> 01:20:13.877
uMartin, otyholwa ngokufuna ukubuyisela ngoko
nangoko bonke abantu abanemibala eyahlukeneyo yolusu?

01:20:13.877 --> 01:20:19.705
Kulungile, apha ePrague, eCzechia, akunjalo
kwaphela, kuba sobabini singabaphambukeli

01:20:19.705 --> 01:20:22.679
apha okwangoku. Ngoko ke akanakundigxotha.

01:20:22.679 --> 01:20:28.581
(...) Ingakumbi xa kuziwa kwizihloko ezifana nezopolitiko,
umgaqo-nkqubo wabaphambukeli, ukubuyela kwakhona

01:20:28.581 --> 01:20:34.739
kwilizwe kunye nokwamkeleka, ndikholelwa ukuba
uMartin Sellner uphathwe ngokungekho sikweni iminyaka.

01:20:34.739 --> 01:20:41.601
Ewe, ke, nabani na ofundileyo ngokwaneleyo aze amamele
ngenyameko... kwaye lo mfana, unomtsalane

01:20:41.601 --> 01:20:49.851
ngokwenene, kufuneka nditsho, mhle, ngoko akathethi nje
kuphela, ukwamhle – hayi, kodwa iingcinga zakhe zicacile.

01:20:49.851 --> 01:20:56.084
Martin, ubhale incwadi ngokubuyela kwabantu kwilizwe
labo elithi rhoqo icatshulwe kwaye ixoxwe kakhulu.

01:20:56.084 --> 01:21:02.429
Iithiyori zakho zivuse iingxoxo ezishushu.

01:21:02.429 --> 01:21:06.811
Zikwaba yindaba eyayixoxwa ngexesha
lenkqubo yokwalelwa kwe-"Compact".

01:21:06.811 --> 01:21:12.694
Ukuthetha ngokubuyisela abantu abangaphandle
ekhaya kuyafana nokuhamba emtya womthetho kule mihla.

01:21:12.694 --> 01:21:19.053
Ngoko ke, zeziphi iingxoxo zakho
eziphambili? Nasi isishwankathelo esifutshane.

01:21:19.053 --> 01:21:24.406
Ndingathetha ngale nto ixesha elide, ndingabhala incwadi
epheleleyo ngayo, kwaye eneneni ndibhale enye, ethi, ngenxa

01:21:24.406 --> 01:21:28.945
ye-CORRECTIV nesixeko sasePotsdam, yaba yeyona ncwadi
ithengiswe kakhulu – ngoko ke ekuyenzeni ibe sisihogo,

01:21:28.945 --> 01:21:31.888
ekuzameni kwabo ukubulala eli gama, bayenze yaba nkulu kakhulu.

01:21:31.888 --> 01:21:37.253
Kule mihla, uTrump uyayisebenzisa, uMusk
uyayisebenzisa, ukusukela kwiChega yasePortugal ukuya

01:21:37.253 --> 01:21:40.710
kwiLega yase-Itali. Zizeziphi ke iimfundiso ezingundoqo?

01:21:40.710 --> 01:21:48.048
Ngokwenene, kukubuyela nje kwimeko eqhelekileyo
kumgaqo-nkqubo wokufuduka. Oku kuthetha ukubuyiselwa kwabantu.

01:21:48.048 --> 01:21:51.970
Kuba asazi nokuba kwenzeke ntoni ukusukela ngo-2015.

01:21:51.970 --> 01:21:56.087
Iphiko lasekhohlo lisiphethe ngengxoxo
engenangqondo kwaphela, ethi: Ngaba ukufudukela kwelinye

01:21:56.087 --> 01:21:59.585
ilizwe ngokungekho mthethweni akukho mthethweni?

01:21:59.585 --> 01:22:01.584
Ewe kona, ayikho mthethweni. Kwenzeka ntoni
ngokufudukela kwabantu okungekho mthethweni?

01:22:01.584 --> 01:22:06.236
Ewe kona, kufuneka abuyele ekhaya. Phelile, oko kucace gca.

01:22:06.236 --> 01:22:08.968
Ukuxoxa ngale nto iminyaka elishumi yinto
engenangqondo kwaphela. Kwaye ukubuyiselwa

01:22:08.968 --> 01:22:11.517
kwabaphambukeli kwenza le ngxoxo ibe yinto eqhelekileyo.

01:22:11.517 --> 01:22:15.017
Isiphelo sokungena ngamandla, yeka
isiphithiphithi se-asylum, iYurophu eyinqaba.

01:22:15.017 --> 01:22:21.084
Ndivumelana nokudala iindawo zokwamkela kunye namaziko
eNyakatho Afrika apho abantu banokuphila ngenkalipho

01:22:21.084 --> 01:22:24.514
nangokhuseleko, bafunde ubugcisa, kodwa bangayi eYurophu.

01:22:24.514 --> 01:22:27.256
Ufuduko olungekho mthethweni lokutshintsha kufuneka luphele.

01:22:27.256 --> 01:22:30.706
Sidinga inkcubeko yokwamkela abantwana bethu neentsapho zethu.

01:22:30.706 --> 01:22:35.854
Kwaye kufuneka kubekho nengcinezelo kwiindawo
ezizimeleyo ukuze zivumelane. Yekisani ukwenza amaSilamsi.

01:22:35.854 --> 01:22:41.715
Lo ngumgaqo ongumongo wesiphakamiso sam sokubuyiselwa
kwabantu, esisekelwe ekuzithandeni, kwizibonelelo endaweni

01:22:41.715 --> 01:22:45.203
yokunyanzeliswa, kwaye sinxulumene nenkxaso yasekuhlaleni.

01:22:45.203 --> 01:22:48.484
Siye saxoxa ngaphambili ukuba
kufuneka kubekho amathuba apha ekuhlaleni.

01:22:48.484 --> 01:22:54.889
Kwaye ukuba sibabuyisa bonke oogqirha eSyria
naseNigeria, abantu baya kuthi ngokwendalo beze kuthi.

01:22:54.889 --> 01:22:57.698
Kufuneka sidale amathuba apha ekuhlaleni,
sinike uncedo apha ekuhlaleni, kodwa

01:22:57.698 --> 01:22:59.553
kucaciswe ukuba akukho ndlela yokungena eYurophu.

01:22:59.553 --> 01:23:04.836
Kwaye ke, kungekhona kwiminyaka emibini, kungekhona kwiminyaka
emithathu, kodwa kwiminyaka eli-15, eli-20, eli-30,

01:23:04.836 --> 01:23:09.871
iJamani izakuba yeyamaJamani ngakumbi kunangoku.
Kwaye oko, ngamafutshane, kukubuyela kwabaphambukeli.

01:23:09.871 --> 01:23:13.580
Siye saphuma saya ezitalatweni eBerlin.

01:23:13.580 --> 01:23:22.642
Ndathatha iklipbhodi entle, ndaya kubantu abadlulayo
ndaza ndathi, "Ningamkela umfuduki ekhayeni lenu?"

01:23:22.642 --> 01:23:25.658
Iindlu zokugcina ziyazele, neeflethi ziyazele.

01:23:25.658 --> 01:23:31.062
Ingaba ningathatha umzamo wokwenzela uluntu into, nize namamkela
aba baphambukeli? – Ewe, ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo singakwenza oko!

01:23:31.062 --> 01:23:35.500
Ndabe ke ndimkhupha uFeroz Khan ekoneni
ndathi, "Nanko ke. Ungamthatha nawe ngoku nangoku!"

01:23:35.500 --> 01:23:37.584
Kwaye ke: "Hayi, hayi, hayi, asinalo nto indawo!"

01:23:37.584 --> 01:23:44.910
Ewe kunjalo, besifuna ukusebenzisa uburharha ukuze sibhekisele
kwinto yokuba iJamani kunye noluntu bahlala besithi, sinendawo,

01:23:44.910 --> 01:23:48.769
sinendawo, singabamkela wonke umntu. Hayi, asinayo indawo.

01:23:48.769 --> 01:23:53.098
Kwaye ngokucacileyo, lo mgaqo-nkqubo wonke wokufuduka usilele.

01:23:53.098 --> 01:23:56.558
Kanti ke kusithiwa ngokuphindaphindiweyo
ukuba singamkela nabani na, baza kuzimanya.

01:23:56.558 --> 01:24:00.338
Hayi, ayizukudibana zonke iimeko apha.
Kwaye besifuna ukutsalela ingqalelo kuloo nto.

01:24:00.338 --> 01:24:04.499
Kwaye kuye kwanomdla kakhulu
ukubona indlela abantu abasabele ngayo.

01:24:04.499 --> 01:24:06.861
Ke, okokuqala, ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo, ndingena.

01:24:06.861 --> 01:24:13.309
Kwaza ke wafika uFeroz enxibe ibhatyi
entle nekepusi epholileyo: "Molo, ndilapha!"

01:24:13.309 --> 01:24:17.241
Kwaye ke ngokukhawuleza umntu wathi,
"Hayi, akunakwenzeka oko, akunakwenzeka oko!"

01:24:17.241 --> 01:24:22.510
Ucinga ukuba ingakanani umngcipheko wokuba
ukuqaliswa kweSilamsi eJamani okanye e-Austria kuya

01:24:22.510 --> 01:24:26.583
kukhokelela kwihlaselo elingakumbi lobunqolobi?

01:24:26.583 --> 01:24:37.794
Ewe, kulungile, singabona ukuba kule minyaka yakutshanje
asisazifumani ezi hlaselo zikhulu njengakuqala, okanye iinzame

01:24:37.794 --> 01:24:47.215
ezininzi, kodwa ngoku zitshintshe zaba ziihlaselo zekhaka
ikakhulu, apho amajelo eendaba ngokwendalo

01:24:47.215 --> 01:24:56.672
azama ukuzibonisa ngathi ngumntu onezifo
zengqondo, ngathi akukho mbono-bucala ongasemva kwayo.

01:24:56.672 --> 01:25:03.111
Kwaye kubaluleke kakhulu, kakhulu ukugxininisa
nokutsalela ingqalelo kwisizathu sokuba aba bantu benze oku.

01:25:03.111 --> 01:25:12.857
Le yinkalo ebaluleke kakhulu, kuba amajelo eendaba ngokukodwa
azama ukuyifihla le nto, ukuze athomalalise uluntu size singayazi

01:25:12.857 --> 01:25:21.990
imvelaphi yayo, ukuba le yimbono nje kuphela, engu-Islam
yezopolitiko, i-Islamism, imbono ejolise ekwenzeni wonke umntu

01:25:21.990 --> 01:25:30.124
abe ngumSilamsi kungekuphela eJamani nase-Austria, kodwa
nakwilizwe lonke laseYurophu, kwaye olu cwangciso

01:25:30.124 --> 01:25:38.501
lulandelwa ngenkuthalo kumanqanaba ahlukeneyo,
kusetyenziswa iindlela ezahlukeneyo, kuquka nobunqolobi.

01:25:38.501 --> 01:25:48.553
Kwaye ndithetha ukuthi – siza kuyibona ngeKrisimesi kunjalo –
sesele sibona onke amanyathelo okhuseleko esonyuswa kwaye lo

01:25:48.553 --> 01:25:58.111
mfanekiso ulusizi weemarike zeKrisimesi ekufuneka zikhuselwe
kakhulu ukuze abemi abaqhelekileyo bazive bekhuselekile

01:25:58.111 --> 01:26:03.604
ngokwaneleyo – kuba, ewe, akukho nto injengokhuseleko lokwenene.

01:26:03.604 --> 01:26:13.991
Ndingathi kufuneka siyeke ukukhuthaza le ajenda yokungena
elizweni ngaphandle kwamaphepha ohambo okanye iivisa okwangoku.

01:26:13.991 --> 01:26:19.653
Siza kuyeka ukudlala ngabantu, kuba nokuba
ndingumntu onolusu olumnyama kakhulu ethetha nomntu

01:26:19.653 --> 01:26:23.307
onolusu olusondele ekubeni lube mhlophe, kufuneka...

01:26:23.307 --> 01:26:25.358
… Ewe, andimnyama kangako …

01:26:25.358 --> 01:26:32.183
Kunjalo, kunjalo, kufuneka nditsho ngokucacileyo,
bafumana njani ezi zifuduki indlela yazo eJamani, eYurophu?

01:26:32.183 --> 01:26:37.911
Ewe, abemi emideni yethu bephethe iitanki
besithi, vula umda kungenjalo siza kudubula.

01:26:37.911 --> 01:26:45.897
Ewe, aba bantu bavunyelwe ngabom ukuba bangene eYurophu,
bavunyelwe ukuba bangene eJamani; batyhalelwe ukuba bangene.

01:26:45.897 --> 01:26:51.525
NdandikwiRiphabliki yeDemokhrasi yaseCongo kwiiveki ezimbini
ezidlulileyo nje, kwaye kukho namanye amanethiwekhi okurhweba

01:26:51.525 --> 01:26:55.262
ngabantu ngokungekho mthethweni nalapho, azi
kakuhle ukuba lingakanani na ixhamla

01:26:55.262 --> 01:26:57.954
labantwana eJamani, ntoni na onokulindela, njalo njalo.

01:26:57.954 --> 01:27:03.409
Kulungile, ndinesisombululo esilula kakhulu sokulungisa
yonke le ngxaki yokucela indawo yokukhusela nokufuduka.

01:27:03.409 --> 01:27:06.343
Ndikholelwa ukuba ibiya kuphela ngokukhawuleza
ukuba amaziko ezindlu zokukhusela ayesakhiwa nje

01:27:06.343 --> 01:27:08.807
ecaleni kwezindlu zokuzonwabisa zabaphathi bezopolitiko.

01:27:08.807 --> 01:27:11.510
Loo nto ingasonjululwa
ngokukhawuleza, kodwa masishiye uqhula ecaleni.

01:27:11.510 --> 01:27:15.953
Kukho nje inyathelo lokuqala,
ukuguqulwa kwezinto ezityhalayo nezitsalayo.

01:27:15.953 --> 01:27:18.743
Kulungile kanye, njengoko ubutsho, zonke
izikhuthazi zokuba abantu beze apha

01:27:18.743 --> 01:27:20.804
maziyekiswe. Ndithetha ukuthi, siphi kaloku, ndicela?

01:27:20.804 --> 01:27:25.826
Abantu beza eLibya bevela eBangladesh baze bahlawule abangenisi
ukuze bafikelele eYurophu – oko akunanto yakwenza

01:27:25.826 --> 01:27:31.535
nokubaleka ilizwe labo, luhambo lokufuna uqoqosho kuba sinika
izibonelelo apha. Kambe ke, kufuneka bemke ngoko nangoko.

01:27:31.535 --> 01:27:37.168
Abangeni-zwe ngokungekho mthethweni abaphuma
apha ngokungekho mthethweni kufuneka nabo bemke.

01:27:37.168 --> 01:27:40.574
Kwaye oko kuthetha bonke abo bangene elizweni
ngokungekho mthethweni, ewe. Nabani na onokungena

01:27:40.574 --> 01:27:42.912
ngokungekho mthethweni unako nokuphuma ngokusemthethweni.

01:27:42.912 --> 01:27:46.538
Nam ndiyifumana le nto ihlekisa ngokukodwa – uluntu
lwabaphiko lasekhohlo: "Akukho nto sinokuyenza malunga

01:27:46.538 --> 01:27:48.735
nokufudukela kwabantu abaninzi, kufuneka sivule imida."

01:27:48.735 --> 01:27:50.587
Ewe kona, oko kuthetha ukuba izigidi zizakufika apha.

01:27:50.587 --> 01:27:55.209
Kodwa ukugxothwa kwalo naliphi na umntu
kuthiwa kufana nokukhwela iNtaba i-Everest.

01:27:55.209 --> 01:27:57.357
Kufuneka izisombululo ezilula nezicacileyo.

01:27:57.357 --> 01:28:03.010
Ukusukela ngo-1945, siqhubekile nokuphila kule nkcubeko
yokuziva sinetyala. Ewe. Thina, njengamaJamani, sinetyala.

01:28:03.010 --> 01:28:06.205
Kufuneka samkele abantu kuba sinoxanduva lokwenza njalo.

01:28:06.205 --> 01:28:09.897
Asinayo loo nyanzeliso!
Akunyanzelekanga nokuba singene nabani na.

01:28:09.897 --> 01:28:15.148
Singakwazi ukwamkela abantu abasweleyo,
abazimanyayo, abanombulelo ngokufumana ikhaya

01:28:15.148 --> 01:28:19.346
lesibini apha. Kwaye, ngokubuyisela, basibonisa:

01:28:19.346 --> 01:28:21.885
Enkosi ngokundamkela, ndiza kuzimanya nani apha!

01:28:21.885 --> 01:28:28.612
Kwaye ukuba nawe ngokwakho, umzekelo njengam, unembali yosapho,
kuquka abafuduki abafika eJamani, abafunda ulwimi apha,

01:28:28.612 --> 01:28:34.039
ekwakufuneka basebenze, abangazange banikwe nto
simahla... Banikwa iflethi encinci kakhulu, apho

01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:36.849
abantu abathandathu babebaleka egumbini elinye.

01:28:36.849 --> 01:28:42.697
Bazakhela ikamva baza basala bethanda kwaye
behlonipha eli lizwe. Kwaye loo nto ayisenziwa namhlanje.

01:28:42.697 --> 01:28:45.978
Kwaye ndingatsho kuphela ukuba oku kuvela kule nkcubeko
yokuziva unetyala, kwaye kufuneka siyishiye ngasemva.

01:28:45.978 --> 01:28:52.050
Asiyondalo msebenzi wethu ukwamkela wonke umntu
apha, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo asikokuhlangula ihlabathi.

01:28:52.050 --> 01:28:57.754
Kwaye inkuthazo yethu yokuqala kukuthi ukuba unombulelo
ngale nto, ukuba usibonisa ukuba uyazimanya nathi, ngoko ke

01:28:57.754 --> 01:29:00.405
siya kukwamkela ngovuyo. Kwaye loo nto yinto elungileyo.

01:29:00.405 --> 01:29:04.804
Kodwa nje baninzi abantu abangazimanyekiyo apha.

01:29:04.804 --> 01:29:08.314
Kwaye ndiyibona loo nto njengentlekele enkulu kakhulu.

01:29:08.314 --> 01:29:18.749
Nam, "i-bhomba emnyama" yaseKongo, "iNgwe", ewe,
ndifuna ukusasaza isibindi sam kubantu baseJamani,

01:29:18.749 --> 01:29:24.714
ukubaxelela ukuba bangoyiki. Uloyiko ngumhlobo ombi.

01:29:24.714 --> 01:29:31.895
Ndafika eYurophu ndingumntwana wophunyeleli ovela
kwiRiphabliki yeDemokhrasi yaseCongo, ndazimela, ndaza

01:29:31.895 --> 01:29:36.651
ndafunda ukuyithanda ilizwe lenu. Abantwana bam bangamaJamani.

01:29:36.651 --> 01:29:42.038
Ngoku ndikulungele ukusebenzisana nawe
ngokusondeleyo ukuze siphumeze lo msebenzi.

01:29:42.038 --> 01:29:45.768
Yaye yile nto endiza kuyikhankasela kunyaka ozayo.

01:29:48.910 --> 01:29:54.182
Kulungile kakhulu, Stefan Magnet, umsasazi wesi
siganeko sikhulu kakhulu, kufuneka kuthiwe, –

01:29:54.182 --> 01:29:58.024
i-Alternative WEF yesibini ngoku sele ibanjelwe apha ePrague.

01:29:58.024 --> 01:30:02.831
Iiphaneli ziphelile, kuye kwabakho iingxoxo
ezininzi, kunye nenani elingummangaliso labantu

01:30:02.831 --> 01:30:06.303
abaluncedo kakhulu nabalungileyo ekuye kwadibana nabo apha.

01:30:06.303 --> 01:30:09.546
Uthini? Uwanelisekile sisiphumo?

01:30:09.546 --> 01:30:12.900
Ndoneliseke ngokugqithisileyo, kuba
yonke into ihambe kakuhle ngokumangalisayo.

01:30:12.900 --> 01:30:16.275
Akubangakho zingozi zinkulu, akubangakho zenzo zokuphazamisa.

01:30:16.275 --> 01:30:22.388
Bonke abathethi beze, banikezela iintetho
zabo, baza baphila ngokuxolelana nangokuthandana.

01:30:22.388 --> 01:30:27.903
Bekukho impikiswano eqongeni, ewe, kodwa yile nto
siyifunayo. Kuyinto entle leyo – bekungcono kunonyaka wokuqala.

01:30:27.903 --> 01:30:32.009
Kwaye ndiyakhululeka kakhulu kuba
sikwazile ukuyenza, ngokwenyani kwento ethethwayo.

01:30:32.009 --> 01:30:37.376
Kwaye ndizithobile kakhulu kwaye ndinombulelo kuba sinabantu
abaninzi ababalaseleyo abanegalelo, kunye namaqabane amakhulu

01:30:37.376 --> 01:30:40.000
eendaba abaxela apha ngendlela eyahlukahlukeneyo nenyanisekileyo.

01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:46.005
Ndonwabe ngokwenene kakhulu kuba sihlanganisene apha
kwaye ngoku sikwazile ukwenza oku kakuhle okwesibini.

01:30:46.005 --> 01:30:52.402
Kulungile, kuhle kakhulu. Stefan, isiqubulo sakho
besiquka ibinzana elithi: "Ukusuka kwigxeko ukuya kumandla."

01:30:52.402 --> 01:30:56.855
Ungasichaza kancinci igama elithi 'amandla', ukuze
siqonde ukuba loluphi uhlobo lwamandla othetha ngalo apha?

01:30:56.855 --> 01:31:02.077
Ewe, nam ndithe kwintetho yam yokuvala ukuba
kumalunga nokudibanisa ukuzimisela kwethu.

01:31:02.077 --> 01:31:08.012
Ukuba xa sivumelana ngokulandela injongo, xa
sifuna ukuqhubela phambili umba esabelana ngawo,

01:31:08.012 --> 01:31:11.272
sinokwakha AMANDLA. Kwaye yiloo nto ebalulekileyo kuthi.

01:31:11.272 --> 01:31:20.142
Kumalunga nokuthetha ngezisombululo eziphathekayo neengcinga
eziphathekayo, nokuzibekela iinjongo esinokusebenzela zona kunye.

01:31:20.142 --> 01:31:24.172
Kwaye isiqwenga esabelwana ngaso
nesicwangcisiweyo sinokushukumisa iintaba.

01:31:24.172 --> 01:31:31.700
Sikubonile oku nge-COVID-19, apho amakhulu amawaka, ekugqibeleni
nezigidi zabantu zathi, asifuni kunyanzelwa

01:31:31.700 --> 01:31:38.875
ukuba sifumane i-gene therapy, asifuni kugonywa,
sifuna ukuphelela komzimba, sifuna inkululeko.

01:31:38.875 --> 01:31:43.111
Kwaye oko kwakhokelela ekubeni uqhanqalazo
lukhule, lube namandla, kunye nokungathobeli

01:31:43.111 --> 01:31:45.708
umthetho jikelele okwenzeka kuyo yonke indawo.

01:31:45.708 --> 01:31:48.719
Kwaye ngoku asifuni mfazwe eYurophu.

01:31:48.719 --> 01:31:54.420
Asifuni kuxhatshazwa ngo-Ursula von der Leyen okanye
u-Jens Spahn okanye nantoni na le marionette ekuthiwa ngabo.

01:31:54.420 --> 01:32:01.669
Asifuni kukhohliswa yibhanile eluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka
enenkwenkwezi yoManyano lwaseYurophu; endaweni yoko, njengakwimeko

01:32:01.669 --> 01:32:08.668
ye-coronavirus, sifuna ukuphila ngokuzimela nangokukhululeka
kwaye asivumeli aba bapholitiki basityhalele emfazweni.

01:32:08.668 --> 01:32:11.785
Yiloo nto sinqwenela ukuyivakalisa apha.

01:32:11.785 --> 01:32:18.197
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba oko kufikelelwe, kwaye
kubonisa nababukeli abasezindlini ukuba siyavumelana.

01:32:18.197 --> 01:32:22.486
Asifuni mfazwe; ngoku siyamanyana ukuyithintela kunyaka ozayo.

01:32:22.486 --> 01:32:27.947
Kulungile kakhulu. Kwaye uphinde wahlanganisa
iintlobo ngeentlobo zabantu ukuze baxoxe ngalo mbandela.

01:32:27.947 --> 01:32:31.229
Imfazwe enokubakho eYurophu ingathintelwa njani?

01:32:31.229 --> 01:32:37.195
Ingaba uva ukuba kukho amanyathelo alandelayo acacileyo
athe avela kuni njengeengcali ezivela kwiinkalo ezahlukeneyo?

01:32:37.195 --> 01:32:39.523
Sifunde izinto ezininzi ngokwenene kuloo nto.

01:32:39.523 --> 01:32:44.052
Kwaye ngokwenene, isiphumo esicacileyo
somfanekiso-mlinganiselo nengxoxo yephaneli ibe sesokuba

01:32:44.052 --> 01:32:46.904
imfazwe, kambe ke, kufuneka ibizwe ngegama layo lokwenene.

01:32:46.904 --> 01:32:50.310
Lulwaphulo-mthetho, luyinto embi, lunenkohlakalo, lunegazi.

01:32:50.310 --> 01:32:53.134
Kufuneka ubonise imifanekiso, kufuneka ubonise iimvakalelo.

01:32:53.134 --> 01:32:57.603
Imfazwe ayonto ingaphathekiyo; ayenzeki nje eGaza okanye eSyria.

01:32:57.603 --> 01:33:01.397
Hayi, uza kuthi thina kwaye kufuneka sife
ngenxa yaso, kufuneka siphume igazi ngenxa yaso.

01:33:01.397 --> 01:33:05.797
Kufuneka silahle izisu zethu
nemikhono yethu kumgca ongaphambili, nakhaya.

01:33:05.797 --> 01:33:09.332
Xa izixhobo ezinzima zentshabalaliso
enkulu ziwa, kuya kuchaphazela ilizwe lethu.

01:33:09.332 --> 01:33:14.075
Emva koko iya kuchaphazela nabantu abadala,
abathi, "Andisadingi kusiya phambili ke."

01:33:14.075 --> 01:33:21.175
Kodwa nilahlekelwa ngamazinyane namazukulwana, kuba
amantombazana nawo kufuneka abizwe ngokomoya wokulingana.

01:33:21.175 --> 01:33:23.939
Ndimlo nayo iyafika emakhaya ethu; ibisoloko isenza njalo.

01:33:23.939 --> 01:33:30.666
Nango-1945, abantu abadala babandezeleka ngenxa
yokuqhushumbiswa, ngenxa yokugxothwa nokungcwaliswa.

01:33:30.666 --> 01:33:35.430
Ngoko ke kuza kuchaphazela wonke umntu.
Imfazwe imbi, asifuni enye imfazwe enegazi eYurophu.

01:33:35.430 --> 01:33:39.669
Ngoko ke uyabona ukuba lo mbandela usondele kakhulu
entliziyweni yakho, kwaye kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba oko

01:33:39.669 --> 01:33:42.519
ukudlulisele kubabukeli, kodwa nakubo bonke abantu obazise apha.

01:33:42.519 --> 01:33:45.808
Umsebenzi ogqwesileyo. Sivuyisana nani kwakhona ngalo msitho.

01:33:45.808 --> 01:33:48.975
Sivuya kakhulu ukunika ingxelo ngale nto
kwaye siza kubhala ngokufutshane nangeepaneli.

01:33:48.975 --> 01:33:53.676
Mhlawumbi kumbukeli, xa ebona ukuba
kukho iingcali, abantu abanempembelelo.

01:33:53.676 --> 01:33:57.652
Niyibambisile ngokwenene wonke umntu, ukusukela
kubaphembeleli ukuya kubagqatswa bosodolophu.

01:33:57.652 --> 01:34:02.408
Kuyamangalisa oko. Kufuneka undixelele ukuba ukwenze njani oko
xa sisela ibhiya ngenye imini. Kodwa enyanisweni, kuyachukumisa.

01:34:02.408 --> 01:34:10.775
Umbuzo ngoku ngulo, ungathi ntoni kumbukeli? Ukuba
ubunokuthetha nje kwigumbi abahleli kulo ngoku, bekubukele.

01:34:10.775 --> 01:34:16.000
Yintoni enokwenziwa ngumntu ngamnye
ukuze athintele imfazwe enokubakho?

01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.894
Ewe, ndicacile ngokupheleleyo ukuba thina sinika nje inkuthazo.

01:34:19.894 --> 01:34:27.406
Sifuna ukubonisa ukuba sihlangene, thina bantu abaziwayo abaqhele
ukubonwa ngababukeli ngexesha lobhubhane we-coronavirus

01:34:27.406 --> 01:34:35.106
nakwezinye iinkqubo ezivela kwiintlobo ngeentlobo zeemveliso
zemidiya – apho abantu bathembele kuthi – ukulwa le ntwa.

01:34:35.106 --> 01:34:38.075
Siyayenza. Sikhokela. Sithatha uxanduva.

01:34:38.075 --> 01:34:42.190
Siza kubonelela ngeendlela ezininzi
ezahlukeneyo apho ababukeli nabo abanokuthatha

01:34:42.190 --> 01:34:44.403
inxaxheba, ezinye zazo ziya kuba lula ukuzingenela.

01:34:44.403 --> 01:34:48.740
Siyazi kakuhle ukuba ayinguye wonke umntu onokukwazi
ukuseka ijelo likamabonakude elifana ne-Kla.TV okanye i-AUF1.

01:34:48.740 --> 01:34:52.560
Asingabo bonke abantu abanokukwazi ukuququzelela
umbhiyozo omkhulu kunye namakhulu amawaka abantu

01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:55.540
okanye babe ngamagqwetha abhala izikhalazo ezikrelekrele.

01:34:55.540 --> 01:34:58.499
Kodwa wonke umntu unokwenza into. Wonke
umntu unokusasaza amaphephancwadi. Ewe,

01:34:58.499 --> 01:35:00.300
wonke umntu unokuncamathisela izincamathelisi.

01:35:00.300 --> 01:35:05.657
Wonke umntu angakwazi ukucacisa ngokucacileyo ukuba yintoni
esesichengeni ngoku, kungaba phakathi kwesizalwane nosapho

01:35:05.657 --> 01:35:08.322
lwakhe, emsebenzini, okanye etafileni yakhe eqhelekileyo.

01:35:08.322 --> 01:35:12.619
Ewe, abo banamandla bafuna ukufihla
ulwaphulo-mthetho lwabo ngokudala imfazwe.

01:35:12.619 --> 01:35:14.981
Kwaye bafuna ukusixhaphaza, njengesiqhelo.

01:35:14.981 --> 01:35:17.200
Ngoku singamaqhekeza ebhodini yecheese.

01:35:17.200 --> 01:35:20.638
Kufuneka nje babulawa. Kwaye kufuneka sithi: Hayi!

01:35:20.638 --> 01:35:24.831
Kwaye umbukeli ngamnye kufuneka azibuze, yintoni
endinokuyenza? Ingaba ndifuna ukuma ngaphambili?

01:35:24.831 --> 01:35:27.526
Mhlawumbi akunjalo. Ewe, abantu abambalwa abayifunayo loo nto.

01:35:27.526 --> 01:35:31.309
Mhlawumbi ke ndingaxoxa ngako nabahlobo
bam. Ewe, mhlawumbi nam andikufuni oko?

01:35:31.309 --> 01:35:35.715
Emva koko ndisasaza iiphetshana ngokufihlakeleyo ebusuku
okanye ndincamathisela izincamathelisi ndaweni ithile.

01:35:35.715 --> 01:35:41.841
Xa icawa ibuya ithi ukugonywa yinkululeko, imfazwe
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esithi: Hayi kwimfazwe! Ewe kuxolo! – nokuba yintoni na.

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ukukhuphela iinkqubo ndize ndizifake kwakhona ukuze

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ndiphephe ukuvalwa kwezinto kumakhasi onxibelelwano.

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Kukho amathuba amaninzi kakhulu. Wonke
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Ukuba sime nje singenzi nto kunyaka ozayo ka-2026, xa kusaza kuba
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ke akusayi kubakho mathuba amaninzi okuchasa ngokuxolileyo.

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Ubutshantliziyo luthetha ukusebenza, kwaye wonke umntu ngoku

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kufuneka asebenze ngandlela ithile ukuze kubekho uxolo.

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kukulungela kwaye sikuxhase kuyo yonke le nkqubo
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Kwaye Elayisa, ubusele ulapha izolo, wafika kwangethuba.

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kuso... Singabuza ukuba yintoni eniyixoxileyo apho?

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Ewe, iingxoxo zizolo bezinomdla kakhulu.

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Sesiphi esinye sezona zisongelo zikhulu ngoku,
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yezemfundo esinayo, kunye namajelo eendaba akhululekileyo?

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Saye savumelana ukuba oku ngokucacileyo kukuthintelwa
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kwiminyaka ezayo kwaye liphulo elilungileyo kakhulu

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amazwe angaphezu kwamashumi amane athethathethane.

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ukukholelwa ukuba yonke into oyakhele le nto isaqhuba
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Okanye yayinjani ingxelo? Ndiyaqaphela
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yonke ekudluliseleni kubamelwane babo nasekubeni khona kubo.

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Uhlala unikezela ngezi mveliso nakwabanye
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lo mbutho wonke wokwazisa unokuxhamla kuzo.

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