WEBVTT 00:01.126 --> 00:05.453 Litlhaselo tsa thobalano har'a bana litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana li ntse li eketseha. 00:05.453 --> 00:11.274 Ena e ne e le sehlooho sa Bild ka Tšitoe 2024: Litlhaselo tse ngolisitsoeng North Rhine-Westphalia: Lipalo tse ncha 00:11.274 --> 00:14.685 tse tšosang ka tlhekefetso litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana: 00:14.685 --> 00:20.615 Hoo e ka bang linyeoe tse 2,000 tsa kotsi 'meleng ++ Litlhaselo tsa thobalano li imenne habeli ho feta 00:20.615 --> 00:25.285 Koranta ea NW Nachrichten e tlalehile ka la 13 Loetse selemong sena: Tlhekefetso e ngata haholo litsing tsa 00:25.285 --> 00:29.880 tlhokomelo ea bana tsa North Rhine-Westphalia – tlhaselo ea 'mele le tlhekefetso ea thobalo 00:29.880 --> 00:35.240 Ho tloha ka 2022, palo ea liketsahalo tse tlalehiloeng e imenne habeli ho feta. 00:35.240 --> 00:40.440 North Rhine-Westphalia, linyeoe tsa tlhekefetso ea thobalano tse entsoeng ke bana li batla li imenne hararo. 00:40.440 --> 00:46.520 Tsena ke lihlooho tse peli feela tse emelang tse tsoang mmusong oa kopanelo oa North Rhine-Westphalia. 00:46.520 --> 00:50.634 Ntshetsopele ena e kotsi ha se ketsahalo e sa rerwang: 00:50.634 --> 00:54.854 Ho tloha ka Phato 2024, kereche e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe e tlamehile ho hlahisa seo ho thoeng ke 00:54.854 --> 00:57.839 "moralo oa tšireletso khahlanong le tlhekefetso". 00:57.839 --> 01:03.080 Mekhatlo e mengata e boetse e kenyelletsa mehopolo ea thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali moemong ona. 01:03.080 --> 01:07.720 "Likamore tsa ho hlahloba 'mele", "likhutlo tse mofuthu" le lisebelisoa tse tšoanang ha se ntho e sa tloaelehang. 01:07.720 --> 01:14.860 Mekgwa ena, e bapatswang e le ya bohlokwa thutong, e simolohile ho tswa maemong a WHO a thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi Europe. 01:14.860 --> 01:18.520 Litaba tsa litekanyetso tsena lia tšoenya haholo. 01:18.520 --> 01:25.766 Bakeng sa bana ba lilemo li 0 ho isa ho 4, se latelang se khothaletsoa: "Thabo le takatso ea ho ama 'mele oa 01:25.766 --> 01:33.760 motho, ho itšoara ha bongoaneng" kapa "maiphihlelo a takatso, kamano ea 'mele e le karolo ea bophelo ba motho". 01:33.760 --> 01:40.160 - Se amanang le sena ke ho fumana tsebo ea tsa thobalano ka lipapali tse bitsoang "lipapali tsa ngaka". 01:40.160 --> 01:44.040 Bana ba lilemo li 4 ho isa ho tse 6 ba lokela ho "bua ka litaba tsa thobalano"! 01:44.040 --> 01:48.838 Sena se ile sa boela sa buuoa mona le mane mecheng ea phatlalatso, empa ho sa senoloe morero o tletseng 01:48.838 --> 01:53.536 mathata a maholo oa ho kenella ha batho ba hlekefetsang bana ka thobalano o neng o le ka morao ho sona. 01:53.536 --> 02:00.691 Setsebi sa mahlale a tsa sechaba sa Mafora, Thibault Kerlirzin, ho tsoa mokhatlong oa ts'ireletso ea bana oa Mamans Louves, o 02:00.691 --> 02:07.502 hlahlobile mehloli ea litlhahiso tsa mahlale tse ka har'a litekanyetso tsa WHO 'me a fumana, har'a tse ling, bangoli ba 02:07.502 --> 02:11.995 tsoang mekhatlong ea lipontšo e tšehetsang peadophilia pepenene. 02:11.995 --> 02:20.780 Har'a bona ho na le batho ba hatisitseng limakasineng tsa bosesanyi ba bana 'me ba tebile haholo mekhatlong ena. 02:20.780 --> 02:25.107 Buka e nyane ea thuto "Die schleichende Pädophilisierung" (Ho ata ha bo-paedophile butle-butle) e phatlalalitsoeng 02:25.107 --> 02:28.135 ke mokhatlo oa ts'ireletso ea bana Demo für alle e bolela: 02:28.135 --> 02:32.344 Bana ba hlahisetswang thobalano ke sebaka se nonneng bakeng sa batho ba hlekefetsang bana ka thobalano. 02:32.344 --> 02:37.553 Leha ho le jwalo, ho etswa tsa thobalano ho ipata eseng feela dikgutlwaneng tse lefifi tsa inthanete, empa hape le dibakeng tse 02:37.553 --> 02:41.773 bonahalang di sireleditswe jwalo ka dikolo le dikolwana tsa bana. 02:41.773 --> 02:47.412 "Tatort Kita" ke pitso ho batsoali bohle, barupeli, basebetsi ba ofisi ea boiketlo ba bacha le karolo e 02:47.412 --> 02:53.453 setseng ea tsamaiso ea toka hore ba emise kotsi ena e tšehelitsoeng ke 'muso boiketlong ba bana. 02:53.453 --> 02:57.841 Ho sireletsa bana ba rona: Ka kopo, arolelanang molaetsa ona wa bohlokwa! 02:57.841 --> 03:03.190 Re leboha ka ho fetisisa kopanelo ea liketso DemoFürAlle! 03:07.835 --> 03:08.432 TRAILARA 03:08.432 --> 03:12.345 "Hantle, poleloana 'kgopolo ya thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi' ha e so ka e boleloa." 03:12.345 --> 03:14.588 Tsena ke litlaleho tse tšoenyang. 03:14.588 --> 03:17.733 "Ena: 'Ofisi ea Naha ea Boiketlo ba Bacha e emisa sebaka se neng se reriloe bakeng sa 03:17.733 --> 03:19.876 tlhahlobo ea 'mele sekolong sa bana ba banyenyane'" 03:19.876 --> 03:21.751 Mme palo e ntse e hola. 03:21.751 --> 03:26.030 "Ke hona moo ke ileng ka qala ho ipotsa hore na mohopolo oo e ne e le motle hakalo." 03:26.030 --> 03:29.419 Ho etsahalang litsing tsa rona tsa tlhokomelo ea masea? 03:29.419 --> 03:32.280 "Batho ke libopuoa tsa thobalano ho tloha qalong-long." 03:32.280 --> 03:36.198 "Lipapali tsa ngaka ke karolo ea khōlo e tloaelehileng ea ngoana. Ho sa tsotellehe hore na 03:36.198 --> 03:38.629 ba thabela ho angoa kapa papali eo kapa che." 03:38.629 --> 03:43.118 Filiming ena, re tla bontša kamoo mokhoa o nang le mathata a maholo thutong ea tsa thobalano o 03:43.118 --> 03:46.140 hapileng maemo mekhatlong e nang le tšusumetso e kholo. 03:46.140 --> 03:49.220 "Ke yona matrix eo e tummeng hampe." 03:49.220 --> 03:55.067 "O pepentse lintho tseo batsoali bohle le baetapele bohle ba lipolotiki ba lokelang ho li tseba." 03:55.067 --> 04:00.260 Sepheo sa bona: boemo bo bocha ba ho etsa hore bana ba be tsa thobalano. 04:00.260 --> 04:02.725 Empa sena se ama bana ba banyenyane joang? 04:02.725 --> 04:08.033 "Ebe, likoneng tsena tse phutholohileng, ho etsahala lintho tseo re neng re ke ke ra li nahana le litoro tsa rona 04:08.033 --> 04:11.146 tse mpe ka ho fetisisa, lintho tseo bana ba li etsetsanang." 04:11.146 --> 04:12.278 "Seo e se e le tšebeliso e mpe." 04:12.278 --> 04:12.779 "E!" 04:12.779 --> 04:18.868 "Ha e le hantle, ke tenehile ke ka lebaka la hore ha kea ka ka bua hang-hang kopanong eo ea batsoali le 04:18.868 --> 04:22.489 ho re, 'Che, ha ke batle seo bakeng sa ngoana oa ka.'" 04:22.489 --> 04:26.961 Litaba tse haele hantle e leng taba ea bachochisi ba sechaba le liofisi tsa boiketlo ba bacha li 04:26.961 --> 04:30.798 tla fetoha tloaelo litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana. 04:30.798 --> 04:36.640 Sebaka sa tlōlo ea molao: setsi sa bana ba banyenyane. Tlhaselo ea woke ho bana ba rōna. 04:41.697 --> 04:47.913 Ke mokhoa o ntseng o tsoela pele ka mashome a lilemo: ho etsa hore lichaba tsa Bophirimela li shebahale e le tsa thobalano. 04:47.913 --> 04:54.428 E ntse e eketseha ka bongata le ka lebelo, e bile e le ea bofetoheli haholoanyane, 'me e shebane ka ho khetheha le bana. 04:54.428 --> 05:01.472 Haele hantle o ne a lokela ho balla bana laeboraring ya masepala ya Bargteheide kajeno: "Drag Queen Veuve Noire". 05:01.472 --> 05:07.166 "Empa hoo ke, ehlile, sesupo se seng sa bohlokoa ba mosebetsi ona oa thuto, oo le rona re o etsang." 05:07.166 --> 05:11.754 Hobane ke feela ha re sebedisana ka mafolofolo le dikereche, dikolo, le dikholetjhe tsa dithupelo tsa 05:11.754 --> 05:14.588 mesebetsi moo re ka atlehang kannete ho ruteng batho. 05:14.588 --> 05:16.160 Hlahloba? Ka eng? 05:16.160 --> 05:19.876 "Ka Phuptjane, o batla ho sebetsa 'moho le drag king Eric Bigclit..." 05:19.876 --> 05:22.915 Munich, litšoantšo tse tšoanang, sehlooho se tšoanang: 05:22.915 --> 05:25.863 "... hlophisa lenaneo la ho balla bana ba lilemo li 4 ho ea holimo." 05:25.863 --> 05:29.993 Mokhoa oa ho qala bophelo ba thobalano kapele le ho feta ha se ketsahalo ea Majeremane. 05:29.993 --> 05:35.808 Torrevieja, Spain: Bana ba banyenyane ba tantša ba apere joaloka matekatse moketeng oa banna ba ratanang le banna. 05:35.808 --> 05:38.592 Bohahaleli ba bana esemeneng. 05:38.592 --> 05:41.469 Na bana ba lokela ho ba teng meketeng ea boikhohomoso ba basodoma? 05:41.469 --> 05:44.107 Ho bonahala ho le jwalo Wrocław, Poland. 05:44.107 --> 05:50.500 Londoneng, Mokoloko oa Boikhohomoso joale o na le sebaka sa lona sa malapa le bana. 05:50.500 --> 05:57.314 Mohatisi oa thuto oa Borithane "twinkl" o tlotlisa lenaneo la mookoli ("litokelo tse lekanang bakeng sa bohle") ka tsela ena. 05:57.314 --> 06:00.251 Mme sena se ile sa baka moferefere o moholo USA: 06:00.251 --> 06:05.861 "Re tla ho tsoa bana ba lona," ho ile ha opela bahlankana ba moetong oa boikhohomoso ba basodoma New York. 06:05.861 --> 06:09.725 E ne e le phoso ea kutloisiso feela, ba qalileng taba ba ile ba tiisetsa bohle. 06:09.725 --> 06:14.336 Setshwantsho-maikutlo se ne se ntshitswe moelelong. 06:14.336 --> 06:16.365 Kannete? 06:18.082 --> 06:21.759 Frankfurt am Main, Phupu 2025: 06:21.759 --> 06:25.900 Ke Letsatsi la Christopher Street, kapa hantle-ntle Matsatsi. 06:25.900 --> 06:31.593 Se qalileng e le mokoloko oa boikhohomoso ba basodoma, joale ke ketsahalo ea matsatsi a mane mabōpong a Noka 06:31.593 --> 06:35.620 ea Main, 'me le bana ba amohelehile ka ho khetheha mona. 06:35.620 --> 06:40.160 Se bitsoang CSD Mile se bapatsa sebaka sa sona sa bacha le malapa. 06:40.160 --> 06:45.664 'E loketse bana ka ho fetisisa hore ba lokolle boqapi ba bona ka botlalo,' ho latela bahlophisi. 06:45.664 --> 06:50.816 'Qetellong, sebaka sa baeti ba rona ba banyenyane,' ba ngola ho Instagram. 06:50.816 --> 06:55.401 Ka hona: Li-carousel le matloana a ho qhoma pela litafole tsa thekiso ea lintho tse sa tloaelehang tsa thobalano. 06:55.401 --> 06:58.784 Li-unicorn tsa mookoli li kopana le mohopolo oa mookoli. 06:58.784 --> 07:03.162 Batho ba ratanang le ba bong bo tšoanang ba apere mabenyane a letlalo pela bana ba banyenyane – joalokaha eka ke ntho e 07:03.162 --> 07:08.352 tloaelehileng ka ho feletseng ketsahalong e shebaneng le ho etsa hore batho ba baholo ba shebahale e le tsa thobalano feela. 07:08.352 --> 07:11.460 Ha ho na nyatso, bohle baa nka karolo. 07:11.460 --> 07:16.159 Empa leha e le hore ke batsoali ba seng bakae feela ba isang bana ba bona mona ka boithaopo, ho na le dibaka tse ding 07:16.159 --> 07:19.466 moo batsoali bohle ba tlamehang ho isa bana ba bona teng. 07:19.466 --> 07:24.241 Libakeng tse ngata, ho etswa ha tsa thobalano ho se ho tlwaelehile dikolong. 07:24.241 --> 07:25.926 Empa ha se hoo feela. 07:25.926 --> 07:29.300 Jwale e se e qala le ditsing tsa tlhokomelo ya bana. 07:29.300 --> 07:31.520 Sena se na le phello efe ho bana? 07:31.520 --> 07:35.980 Likotsi tse amehang ke life, 'me ho thoe'ng ka lithahasello tsa batsoali? 07:35.980 --> 07:42.170 Bakeng sa filimi ena, re qetile likhoeli re etsa lipatlisiso, re kopana le litsebi, re hlahloba marang-rang, mme 07:42.170 --> 07:46.240 ra sibolla lintlha tse tšosang mabapi le semelo sa taba. 07:46.240 --> 07:49.120 Mona re hlahisa sephetho. 07:49.120 --> 07:53.838 Lintho tseo batsoali bohle ba lokelang ho li tseba – le bo-ralipolotiki kaofela. 07:53.838 --> 07:58.059 "Taba ena e totobetse hore e tshwenya batswadi ba bangata le ho feta: ho qala ho ruta bana ba bona tsa 07:58.059 --> 08:01.982 thobalano ba sa le banyenyane haholo, jwale esita le dikolong tsa bana ba banyenyane." 08:01.982 --> 08:03.280 "E, ke bohlanya bo feletseng." 08:03.280 --> 08:06.394 Mefuta eohle ea likoranta e tlaleha ka eona. 08:06.394 --> 08:09.607 Mona: Ofisi ea Naha ea Boiketlo ba Bacha e emisa sebaka se neng se reriloe bakeng sa 08:09.607 --> 08:12.003 tlhahlobo ea 'mele setsing sa tlhokomelo ea bana. 08:12.003 --> 08:13.437 Seo e ne e le Hanover. 08:13.437 --> 08:19.780 Re na le sena mona Braunschweig: ho bapala ho ba ngaka sekolong sa bana ba banyenyane. 08:19.780 --> 08:24.534 Mona ho na le: Nurseri e nahana ka sebaka sa lipapali tsa thobalano. 08:24.534 --> 08:26.930 Kerpeneng: Ho itheola le lipapali tsa ngaka. 08:26.930 --> 08:31.072 Kahoo hohle, esita le litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea masea tsa K'hatholike u e fumana. 08:31.072 --> 08:34.440 Setsi sa bana ba banyenyane sa K'hatholike se hlakola liketsahalo tse hlabisang lihlong 08:34.440 --> 08:35.930 tse amanang le ho bapala ho ba ngaka – Cologne. 08:35.930 --> 08:41.036 Le Switzerland le yona e na le yona: diphaposi tsa ho bapala dingaka ke ntho e tlwaelehileng dikeresheng tsa Switzerland. 08:41.036 --> 08:44.544 "Hona hape ke ntho eo re bileng le boiphihlelo ba eona ka 'Parents' Action Initiative'." 08:44.544 --> 08:50.214 Re ntse re fumana mangolo a mangata ho tsoa ho batsoali ba tšoenyehileng ba ikopanyang le rona ho re 08:50.214 --> 08:56.031 mofuta ona oa thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali o ntse o ata haholo litsing tsa bana ba banyenyane. 08:56.031 --> 09:04.816 Sena se akaretsa ho tloha ho lipale tse phetjoang ho isa ho litlhaselo tse etsahalang har'a lithaka kapa bana. 09:04.816 --> 09:11.600 Ho na le lintho tse itseng tse hlahellang tse hlileng li tšoenya haholo-holo. 09:11.600 --> 09:14.784 Ena ke ditaba tse tshwenyang. 09:14.784 --> 09:19.899 Sena sohle se baka khatello ea maikutlo e matla haholo ebile ke taba ea lekunutu haholo ho ba amehang , ke ka lebaka leo 09:19.899 --> 09:24.108 batho ba seng bakae ba batlang ho bua ka eona k'hameraeng . 09:24.108 --> 09:30.080 Kerstin Kramer o lokisitse ho kopana le batsoali ba seng ba lumetse ho etsa jwalo. 09:30.080 --> 09:33.742 Ka kopo ea bona, re ke ke ra senola sebaka sa bolulo kapa boitsebiso ba ba amehang. 09:33.742 --> 09:38.560 Seo re ka se buang feela ke hore leeto la rona le re isa toropong e nyane kae-kae Bavaria. 09:38.560 --> 09:45.826 Mme pale e qala ka mokhoa o sa tsoteheng haholo ka moqoqo pakeng tsa bo-'mè ba babeli sekolong sa bana ba banyenyane. 09:45.826 --> 09:51.787 "Mme a mpolella ka bara ba hae, ba neng ba tšeha ka pelo eohle lapeng ka morali oa rona, kapa 09:51.787 --> 09:56.060 hantle-ntle ka liphihlelo tseo ba neng ba li arolelane." 09:56.060 --> 10:06.020 Mme bashanyana ba re moradi wa rona o kenya monwana wa hae ka maramong, e leng ntho eo ba e etsang letsatsi lohle hae. 10:06.020 --> 10:09.799 Empa morali wa mme ya amehang o hopola taba ena ka tsela e fapaneng haholo. 10:09.799 --> 10:12.900 "Joale ka mo botsa ka ho otloloha. E ne e le eng?" 10:12.900 --> 10:16.251 Na seo Mm'e a mpoleletseng sona ke 'nete kannete? 10:16.251 --> 10:20.700 Ee, 'M'e, ke 'nete, empa ho ne ho se joalo ho hang kamoo a u boleletseng kateng. 10:20.700 --> 10:26.260 Ho ne ho se jwalo ho hang ha bashanyana ba ntlosa borikgwe. 10:26.260 --> 10:28.480 Ntšoarele, ke eng? 10:28.480 --> 10:34.088 Mme yaba o re bashanyana bana ba mo theotse borikgwe, ho thwe e ne e le makgetlo a mmalwa, eseng 10:34.088 --> 10:37.440 hang feela, mme hore sena se ne se etsahala kgafetsa. 10:37.440 --> 10:43.939 E, ba ile ba ikopanya le rona, mme ke ne ke se ke buile le yena fonong pele ho moo, mme yaba o boetse a bolela nakong 10:43.939 --> 10:49.964 ya moqoqo hore moradi wa hae o ne a hlekefetswe ka tsa thobalano makgetlo a mmalwa ke bashanyana ba babedi. 10:49.964 --> 10:52.095 Kahoo re bua ka bana mona. 10:52.095 --> 10:56.500 Sebaka sa tlolo ea molao: kereche ea sekhohola e baballang tikoloho. 10:56.500 --> 11:01.416 Hara tse ling, ho ne ho e-na le phaepe sebakeng se bulehileng eo bana ba neng ba ka khasa ka hare ho eona. 11:01.416 --> 11:10.244 "Ho na le e le 'ngoe kantle mobung, phaephe, tonnele, moo o ka ipatelang teng." 11:10.244 --> 11:12.640 Se sa bonweng ka ntle. 11:12.640 --> 11:15.500 "Ha o sa shebe ka kotloloho ho sona." 11:15.500 --> 11:18.496 Mona ke moo litlhaselo li bonahalang li etsahetse teng. 11:18.496 --> 11:25.352 E, mme hamorao ho ile ha senoleha hore bashanyana ba ile ba mo qobella le ho mo qobella hore a rohole borikgwe 11:25.352 --> 11:29.408 ba hae ka pela bona mme a kenye dintho maramong a hae. 11:29.408 --> 11:33.341 Ho ka etsahala hore le bashemane ba kenye menoana ya bona ka morao ho yena. 11:33.341 --> 11:37.184 Ka lebaka la dilemo tsa bana, hantle-ntle ha ho eso hlake hore na ho etsahetse eng. 11:37.184 --> 11:41.632 Empa ho hlakile hore ho na le se etsahetseng, mme e bile ntho e tebileng. 11:41.632 --> 11:47.840 "Ha e le hantle, morali oa rona o ne a na le likotsi sebakeng sa hae sa botona kapa botšehali ka nako eo. 11:47.840 --> 11:54.560 Mme kannete ke ile ho ngaka ea bana ho ea botsa: Ke eng? Ke etse'ng? Ho joang? 11:54.560 --> 11:59.136 A e sheba, a e hlokomela, a sitoa ho bua letho. 11:59.136 --> 12:05.175 Mme o boetse a re haeba ngwana a sa bue ka yona, ha ke a lokela ho botsisisa ho feta tekano, e le hore ke se ke ka 12:05.175 --> 12:09.622 mpefatsa kgatello efe kapa efe ya maikutlo eo a ka bang le yona. 12:09.622 --> 12:14.653 Leha ho le jwalo, se hlollang le ho feta ke kamoo setsi se ileng sa arabela ketsahalo eo. 12:14.653 --> 12:18.540 "Eohle ke pale feela eo morali oa ka a iqapetseng eona." 12:18.540 --> 12:23.023 Mme haeba ba na le dipotso mabapi le tsa thobalano, re tla di hlakisa. 12:23.023 --> 12:28.548 Se seng se ileng sa ntlhollisa ke hore, re le bo-'mè – kapa bo-ntate – re batla ho iketsetsa seo, 'me 12:28.548 --> 12:32.160 ha se hakaalo hore re batla ho se fumana setsing. 12:32.160 --> 12:36.647 Mme hape ke ile ka mo bolella hore nka thabela ho bona mohopolo wa polokeho. 12:36.647 --> 12:39.968 Ee, ee, re na le eona – re hloka le eona. 12:39.968 --> 12:42.030 Empa ha e a ka ya nnehelwa. 12:42.030 --> 12:43.986 Ba ne ba sa batle hore ke shebe ka hare moo. 12:43.986 --> 12:51.045 Mme hamorao taba e ile ya hlaha, kamora hore le mme a leke ho bua le batsamaisi ba setsi sa tlhokomelo ya bana. 12:51.045 --> 12:53.566 Mme tsohle tsa fetisetsoa ho ngoana. 12:53.566 --> 12:55.922 Ho ya ka molao-motheo wa hore tsohle ke monahano feela. 12:55.922 --> 13:00.846 Empa hamorao ho ile ha senoleha hore ngoana e mong o ne a itemohile ntho e tšoanang – le bashanyana baona bao. 13:00.846 --> 13:09.420 "Mme re ka thaba hore ebe re fumane kapele, hobane ka nako eo re ile ra khona ho arabela hang-hang." 13:09.420 --> 13:13.089 Hantle, ke re 'rona', empa u ile oa arabela, e, u ile oa e tseba hantle. 13:13.089 --> 13:18.177 Re ile ra kgona ho nka kgato hang-hang ho sireletsa ngwana wa rona. 13:18.177 --> 13:21.696 Lapeng lena le leng, ba ile ba utlwa morao haholo. 13:21.696 --> 13:25.060 Morali joale o kena kereche e fapaneng. 13:25.060 --> 13:30.528 Hore na ngoana o ile a tshwenyeha maikutlong ke diketsahalo, ho tla hlaka feela nakong e tlang e hole. 13:30.528 --> 13:36.504 Ntho e le 'ngoe e tiile: leha ho ka ba thata ho hlalosa ka botlalo se etsahalang kannete ka har'a "makamo a ho bapala" a joalo 13:36.504 --> 13:40.140 litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana, litlamorao li ka ba mpe haholo. 13:40.140 --> 13:43.910 Mme hoo ke ntle le dipapadi tsa dingaka kapa dintho tse jwalo. 13:43.910 --> 13:46.240 "Ho ne ho se na phaposi ea lipatlisiso ka kutloisiso ea sebele ea lentsoe." 13:46.240 --> 13:48.840 Bana ba ile ba tlohelwa feela. 13:48.840 --> 13:50.820 Empa ntlha eona ke eona. 13:50.820 --> 13:54.940 Hona ke hantle seo se hlalositsweng mehopolo ya thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi ditsing tsa tlhokomelo ya bana. 13:54.940 --> 14:01.002 Ho a amoheleha hore bana ba tla hlahlobisana ba sa shejwa, ba ame ditho tsa botona kapa tsa botshehadi 14:01.002 --> 14:04.177 tsa e mong, mme ba kenye dintho mekotjaneng ya bona. 14:04.177 --> 14:05.938 Ha ho motho ea hlokomelang. 14:05.938 --> 14:12.720 Mme le bana ba boetse ba dilemong tseo ba sa bueng ka sena pepeneneng. 14:12.720 --> 14:14.400 "Na ke ketsahalo feela?" 14:14.400 --> 14:19.320 Hantle-ntle litsebi tse tsebang ka kelello ea bana le tlhekefetso li reng ka taba ee? 14:19.320 --> 14:23.217 Re na le motho ea khahlang eo re buisanang le eena Neubrandenburg. Ke banyalani. 14:23.217 --> 14:29.540 Bobedi ke dingaka tsa kelello tsa bana le batjha, kahoo ha re bone hore na ba reng ka taba ena. 14:29.540 --> 14:35.229 Kahoo re tla boela re nka leeto hape. Lekhetlong lena re ea Neubrandenburg. 14:38.060 --> 14:43.847 Anja le Roman Göbeke ba re amohela ofising ea bona. 14:43.847 --> 14:46.840 Ka tloaelo, ba hlokomela bakuli ba bona mona. 14:46.840 --> 14:52.153 Litsebi tsa phekolo ea kelello le tsa boitšoaro li thusa bana le bacha ho hlola likotsi 14:52.153 --> 14:55.760 tsa kelello kapa mafu a letsoalo, mohlala. 14:55.760 --> 15:00.352 "Kahoo, kalafo ea boitšoaro e etsahala mona ka phaposing ena." 15:00.352 --> 15:05.320 Pele ho moo, Roman Göbeke o sebelitse litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana ba banyenyane ka lilemo tse 'maloa. 15:05.320 --> 15:09.561 Mosebetsing oa hae, o 'nile a lula a sebeletsa boiketlo ba bana. 15:09.561 --> 15:11.730 "Batswadi ka tlhaho ke karolo ya sena." 15:11.730 --> 15:15.849 Tsena li se li akareditswe kōpōng, mme ho na le lihora tsena tsa batho ba bohlokwa. 15:15.849 --> 15:17.967 Sena se bolela hore re hloka sebaka bakeng sa bana le batsoali. 15:17.967 --> 15:21.200 Empa ba banyenyane ka ho fetisisa ke bona ba shebilweng mona. 15:21.200 --> 15:24.288 Sena se sebetsa le sebakeng sa mosebetsi sa Anja Göbeke. 15:24.288 --> 15:30.280 "Kahoo, ena ke phaposi ea thuto-kelello e tebileng le phekolo ea lipapali. 15:30.280 --> 15:37.024 E kholoanyane hanyane ho feta kamore e 'ngoe hobane le 'na ke hloka lipapali tse lekaneng mona. 15:37.024 --> 15:40.245 Ka bokgutshwanyane: le a tseba bana le kelello ya bona. 15:40.245 --> 15:43.329 Ba boetse ba tloaetse ho phekola bahlaseluoa ba tlhekefetso. 15:43.329 --> 15:47.656 Re batla ho tseba hore na Anja le Roman Göbeke ba nahana'ng ka mokhoa o ntseng o ata oa hore bana ba qale ho 15:47.656 --> 15:50.060 ba le bophelo ba thobalano ba sa le banyenyane haholo. 15:50.060 --> 16:03.722 "Ke nahana hore thobalano ke ntho e lokelang ho kopanngoa le maikutlo a batho ba baholo le likamano tse holileng." 16:03.722 --> 16:09.625 Kahoo, sena ha se ntho e ka shejoang e le 'ngoe, empa e lokela ho kopanngoa. 16:09.625 --> 16:15.749 Hape ho lokela ho ba hore bana ba se ba qetile ho itlhaola ka bong. 16:15.749 --> 16:18.680 Ee, hantle, ho ka ba nakong ea boroetsana, ha ho le kapele-pele. 16:18.680 --> 16:26.255 Kahoo o ntse o ntse o batlana le boitsebiso ba hao, ho kenyeletsa le boitsebiso ba hao ba bong. 16:26.255 --> 16:31.186 Mme seo se lokela ho phethwa pele liketso dife kapa dife tsa thobalano di etsahala. 16:31.186 --> 16:35.608 Ntho efe kapa efe e 'ngoe e ka ba pele ho nako, kaha bana ba ka imeloa ke eona. 16:35.608 --> 16:43.320 Mme hobane thobalano e ne e tla ba ntho e arohaneng moelelong ona mme e eso kopanngwe. 16:43.320 --> 16:47.856 "Hantle, esale ke bona bana ba le tjena 'me hape ke hlokometse hore ba se ba na le thahasello taba ea 16:47.856 --> 16:50.798 hore ho na le mefuta e 'meli e fapaneng ea batho." 16:50.798 --> 16:59.280 Empa seo se fella feela tlhokomelong le temohong: ho na le batho ba shebahalang ba fapane le ba bong bo fapaneng le ba ka. 16:59.280 --> 17:04.575 Mme seo se hlalosa ka ho lekana boholo ba bohelehele ba ngoana. 17:04.575 --> 17:09.668 "U nahana hore bana ba qala ho ba le maikutlo a lihlong neng?" 17:09.668 --> 17:14.592 Mme ho etsahala eng ha e sitiswa, e hlabiswa dihlong kapa e hatellwa? 17:14.592 --> 17:21.906 "Hantle, ntlha ea pele ke hore, nka bona ka ho hlaka mokhoa o itseng oa boitšoaro ho bana ha ba ea ntlwaneng. 17:21.906 --> 17:25.840 Bana ba dula ba batla hore ntlwana e kgone ho notlelwa. 17:25.840 --> 17:31.173 Seo se bolela hore ba na le takatso ea tlhaho ea ho ikarola sebakeng seo. 17:31.173 --> 17:37.672 Kahoo ke se ke hlokometse hore lilemong tseo – lilemo tsa sekolo sa bana ba banyenyane hangata li qala lilemong tse tharo – 17:37.672 --> 17:44.672 maikutlo a lihlong le tlhokahalo ea ho ipehela meeli, le ho bona meeli ea 'mele e le e bolokehileng, li teng ka ho hlaka haholo. 17:44.672 --> 17:51.273 "Hape ke nnete hore haeba ngoana a na le kamano e ntle, o ka khona ho khetholla pakeng tsa 17:51.273 --> 17:55.349 batho bao a sa ba tsebeng le bao a ba tsebang. 17:55.349 --> 17:57.687 Ke sesupo sa kamano e ntle. 17:57.687 --> 18:02.800 Mme hape bana ba ba le dihlong ha ba le pela batho bao ba sa ba tsebeng ha ba le dilemo tse ka bang robedi. 18:02.800 --> 18:08.909 Eo ke sesupo se setle, hobane e bontša hore e khona ho khetholla pakeng tsa batho bao e sa ba tsebeng le bao e ba tsebang. 18:08.909 --> 18:15.098 Mme, ehlile, hang ha ngoana a se a kgona ho kgetholla pakeng tsa batho bao a sa ba tsebeng le bao a ba tsebang, a 18:15.098 --> 18:18.441 ka nna a se batle ho angoa ke batho bao a sa ba tsebeng. 18:18.441 --> 18:24.300 E batla ho boloka sebaka se itseng, 'me ka sebele ha e batle ho angoa libakeng tsa eona tsa lekunutu. 18:24.300 --> 18:31.900 E, hoo ke ntho eo ngoana a ka e hanang, ka tloaelo, haeba a holile hantle. 18:31.900 --> 18:39.380 Mme mathata a kgokahano, mohlala, a hlaloswa ka ho hlaka ke taba ya hore bana ha ba kgone ho etsa sena. 18:39.380 --> 18:46.169 Kahoo ba sitoa ho khetholla pakeng tsa batho bao ba sa ba tsebeng le bao ba ba tsebang, 'me ba 18:46.169 --> 18:50.055 itshwara ka mokgwa o batlang o kgaohane le ba bang. 18:50.055 --> 18:52.606 "Mme ikopanye le mang kapa mang eo o mo ratang." 18:52.606 --> 18:58.592 "Ho ikopanya kapa esita le ho tsamaisana le mang kapa mang mme mohlomong o sa bontshe tshabo ena, empa 18:58.592 --> 19:06.667 hantle-ntle ke sesupo sa kgolo e hlolehileng le hore ha ho na kamano e phetseng hantle e theilweng." 19:06.667 --> 19:12.440 "Sena, ehlile, se hanyetsana ka ho feletseng le seo ho lulang ho boleloa hore ke sona mehopolo ena ea tsa thobalano." 19:12.440 --> 19:16.760 Ho dula ho tsepamisitswe maikutlo haholo hodima seo ho thweng ke thuto. 19:16.760 --> 19:19.600 Empa ha ho mohla ho buuoang ka boitlamo. 19:19.600 --> 19:23.701 "Ho boetse ho loketse hore e be kamehla ke litsebi tse tšoanang tse fuoang monyetla oa ho bua. 19:23.701 --> 19:29.291 Ka mohlala, ba kenyeletsa Uwe Sielert, Jörg Maiwald le Stefan Timmermanns. Ho utluoa ho fokolang ho tsoa ho ba bang. 19:29.291 --> 19:31.500 "Ho na le mantsoe a mangata a mang kantle mane. 19:31.500 --> 19:39.520 Ka mohlala, Moprofesa Christian Schubert, eo e leng ngaka le setsebi sa kelello Sepetleleng sa Univesithi se Innsbruck. 19:39.520 --> 19:43.320 "Sebaka sa rona se latelang: Innsbruck naheng ea Austria. 19:43.320 --> 19:48.366 Mona re kopana le rasaense, moprofesa oa univesithi le setsebi sa kelello eo hape a nkoang e le mohlahlobisisi oa 19:48.366 --> 19:53.847 likarolo tse fapaneng tsa meriana ea sejoale-joale tseo a li bonang e le nts'etsopele e sa batleheng. 19:53.847 --> 19:58.078 Motheo oa khopolo ea hae ke ho nka pono e akaretsang ea 'mele, kelello le moea, e leng seo a 19:58.078 --> 20:02.200 boetse a se khothalletsang bukeng ena e sa qapuoang. 20:02.200 --> 20:06.712 Pele ho tsohle, re batla ho tseba: na o ne a ka be a nahane hore tsoelopele ena, e seng e bonahala ka ho 20:06.712 --> 20:10.060 hlaka litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea masea, e ne e ka khoneha qalong ea mosebetsi oa hae? 20:10.060 --> 20:14.409 "E, empa na o ne o ka nahana hore re tla qetella re bua ka dikgutlo tse mofuthu le 20:14.409 --> 20:16.617 diphaposi tsa boitlhahlobo ditsing tsa masea?" 20:16.617 --> 20:19.938 Joale, bana ba lokela ho sibolla takatso ea bona ea thobalano hokae? 20:19.938 --> 20:21.416 "Che, le hanyenyane!" 20:21.416 --> 20:28.880 Bonyane, ha baa lokela ho lemoha takatso ea bona ea thobalano; hoo ho hole haholo le seo nka se nahanang. 20:28.880 --> 20:34.283 "Ke na le qotso mona ho tsoa ho Moprofesa Jörg Maiwald, eo e leng moprofesa ea hlomphuoang oa litokelo tsa bana le 20:34.283 --> 20:37.757 tšireletso ea bana, 'me o ngola koranteng "Kindheit" (Bongoana): 20:37.757 --> 20:45.502 Mohopolo oa hore bana ba ka hola ba se na mefuta ea maikutlo, mehopolo le liketso tsa thobalano ke toro e 20:45.502 --> 20:51.373 hole le 'nete, ha e ba tšoanele, 'me e ka ba lematsa. 20:51.373 --> 20:53.512 "E, ke na le boemo bo hlakileng tabeng ena." 20:53.512 --> 20:59.541 Ke nahana, ke bolela — ke susumelitsoe ke tlhahlobo ea kelello, ho lokela ho boleloa — kahoo ke setsebi sa phekolo ea kelello se 20:59.541 --> 21:04.770 sebetsang ka mekhoa ea tlhaho ea kelello, hape ke setsebi sa phekolo ea kelello sa bongaka — eo, ehlile, hape a 21:04.770 --> 21:10.494 bulehileng ho maikutlo a tsoang tlhahlobong ea kelello mabapi le kholo ea kelello le tsa botona le botšehali ho ngoana. 21:10.494 --> 21:14.842 Ehlile ho na le ntho e etsahalang moo, ha ho potso ka seo. 21:14.842 --> 21:20.180 Empa ho 'na, lintlha tse ling li bohlokoa haholoanyane ha ho tluoa khōlong ea ngoana. 21:20.180 --> 21:25.564 Mme hoo ke ka ga ho arohana, ke ka ga ho arohana ho sireletsehileng, ke ka ga lehae le 21:25.564 --> 21:28.657 phetseng hantle, le mofuthu, le sireletsehileng. 21:28.657 --> 21:35.654 Seo ke sona se bohlokoa ka ho fetisisa, ke motheo oo ngoana a o hlokang, oo motho e mong le e mong a o hlokang, mme ke 21:35.654 --> 21:39.058 sona seo ke se lebeletseng ho tsoa khōlong e phetseng hantle. 21:39.058 --> 21:45.700 Ke nyatsa ka ho hlaka letšolo lena la ho etsa lintho hore li be tsa thobalano le ntseng le tsoela pele. 21:45.700 --> 21:52.752 Moo ho nkoang hore matla a thobalano a teng ho bana – esita le kapele-pele ka mor'a tsoalo. 21:52.752 --> 22:00.052 Le hore o etse bonnete kapele-pele hore matla ana a thobalano a ka hola ka tsela e loketseng. 22:03.196 --> 22:07.994 "Matla a tsa thobalano ke e 'ngoe ea lipale tsa mantlha tse 'nileng tsa phelanngoa ka lilemo tse 22:07.994 --> 22:12.994 mashome e le karolo ea tlhaselo ena ea ho etsa hore tsohle li shebahale e le tsa thobalano." 22:12.994 --> 22:17.403 "E, ho lokile, le nna ke hlokometse seo, mohlala ho Uwe Sielert, 'setsebi sa thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali'." 22:17.403 --> 22:22.373 Ka hara "Selelekela sa Thuto ea Thobalano," o se a bua ka libido e le matla a bophelo a o 22:22.373 --> 22:25.810 etsang hore o be matla khahlanong le ho ferekana. 22:25.810 --> 22:28.833 Kapa thutong e fanoeng ke Stefan Timmermanns ka 2013. 22:28.833 --> 22:32.595 O boetse o bua ka matla a bophelo ba thobalano, ao bana ba seng ba na le ona. 22:32.595 --> 22:36.105 "Batho ke libopuoa tsa thobalano ho tloha qalong-long." 22:36.105 --> 22:42.303 Thuto ea tsa botona le botshehali e na le tšusumetso e ntle ho bana, hobane thobalano ke matla a bophelo. 22:42.303 --> 22:47.971 "Ngaka Stefan Timmermanns, e mong oa baemeli ba tsebahalang haholo ba lekala lena la thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali. 22:47.971 --> 22:51.924 Thuto ea hae ea lilemo tse fetang 10 tse fetileng e bonahala e le moralo oa seo hona joale se ntseng 22:51.924 --> 22:56.167 se kena litsing tse ngata tsa tlhokomelo ea bana. 22:56.167 --> 23:03.830 Paneng ena ea mongolo, Timmermans o thathamisitse mabaka a tšehetsang seo a se bitsang thuto e tšehetsang tsa thobalano. 23:03.830 --> 23:10.133 Mohlala: 'Ho sibolla meedi ya motho ka boyena e le motheo wa ho hlompha ba bang'. 23:10.133 --> 23:15.963 Empa na seo ha se bolele hore o tlameha ho tšela meeli eo ka boomo e le hore o e sibolle? 23:15.963 --> 23:17.680 Mamela 'me u makale! 23:17.680 --> 23:22.008 Ho ithuta ka bo bona le ka ba bang ke maiphihlelo a bohlokoa a thuto ho bana, mme bana ba kajeno ba na le 23:22.008 --> 23:26.294 monyetla o moholo oa ho ba le maiphihlelo ana setsing sa tlhokomelo ea bana ho feta lapeng. 23:26.294 --> 23:34.606 Ho ya ka dipalopalo, ho na le ngwanabo e mong feela lapeng, mme ke hantle taba ena ya ho leka ho leka-lekanya kapa ho leka 23:34.606 --> 23:43.140 meedi, le ho amohela meedi eo — ha ke batle ho angoa moo, ha ke rate seo, kapa ke rata seo, ke nahana hore seo se setle. 23:43.140 --> 23:46.972 Ba ka ithuta sena hamolemo ha ba le sehlopheng se seholo sa bana ho feta haeba ba na le ngwana a le 23:46.972 --> 23:49.737 mong feela lapeng, hape e le yena ya tshwanang kamehla. 23:49.737 --> 23:54.924 Ka bokgutshwanyane, hobane batswadi ba ke ke ba dumella bana ba bona ho leka meedi ya seriti sa bana ba bona ba bang, 23:54.924 --> 23:58.656 sena se lokela ho etsahala ditsing tsa tlhokomelo ya bana. 23:58.656 --> 24:03.648 Ntho tsohle bakeng sa ho phahamisa matla a thobalano a qosoang. 24:03.648 --> 24:10.278 Ha nts'etsopele ea thobalano ea ngoana e tšehetsoa le ho khothatsoa, sena se thusa nts'etsopele ea hae ea 24:10.278 --> 24:14.720 botho, mohlala, ho thehoeng ha boitsebiso ba hae ba bong. 24:14.720 --> 24:19.136 Empa na seo se hlile se hlokahala bakeng sa nts'etsopele ea bana ba banyenyane? 24:19.136 --> 24:23.333 Hantle, ha ke bone tlhokahalo ea seo ka kutloisiso e thata. 24:23.333 --> 24:30.896 Kahoo, ho 'na, ho belaetsa ka motheo ho hohela tlhokomelo ea bana sebakeng sa likarolo tsa botona kapa botšehali. 24:30.896 --> 24:34.981 Hobane joale ba na le menyetla e mengata haholo ea ho fumana monate. 'Me ke hobane'ng ha ke 24:34.981 --> 24:37.205 lokela ho etsa seo hore e be se tsosang takatso? 24:37.205 --> 24:42.518 Kahoo seo ha se utlwahale mothating oo wa ntshetsopele, hobane le sona ha se na molemo. 24:42.518 --> 24:45.553 Hela, ke se ke e fumane, empa ha ke na karolo e tšoanang ea eona 'meleng ea methapo ea boko. 24:45.553 --> 24:51.347 Ha ke na kholo ea li-hormone kapa ea endocrine e tsamaellanang le sena. 24:51.347 --> 25:00.518 Ka hona, ha ke na moralo oa kelellong oo ka oona nka kopanyang tsa thobalano ka sepheo sa ho fumana monate. 25:00.518 --> 25:07.820 Ka hona, ho a utlwahala hore tshekatsheko ena ya tsa thobalano e imetsa kelello ya ngwana ho feta tekano. 25:07.820 --> 25:10.129 Ha ke nahane hore ho hlokahala bakeng sa nts'etsopele. 25:10.129 --> 25:18.060 Ke bolela hore, ha o ka sheba tlhahlobo ea kelello, joale ngoana, lesea, o qala a le methating ea molomo. 25:18.060 --> 25:21.193 Ebe o kena, ngoana o kena mokhahlelong oa masoba. 25:21.193 --> 25:26.039 E bua ka ho ruta ho sebelisa ntlwana le tse ding, kgahlamelo ya boikgathollo le tse ding, e wela tlasa sehlopha seo. 25:26.039 --> 25:30.116 Mme kgato ya ditho tsa thobalano e tla qetellong, ho batjha. 25:30.116 --> 25:32.866 Mme hara moo ho ntse ho ena le kgato ya tieho. 25:32.866 --> 25:36.646 Mme ruri bohle ba tlwaelane le sena: nakong ya boroetsana, banana le bashanyana ba dula ba 25:36.646 --> 25:38.813 bitswa hore ke "lona bashanyana" le "lona banana". 25:38.813 --> 25:43.478 Ha ba na thahasello ho hang ho kopanong ea liphate lilemong tsena, ho fapana le hoo. 25:43.478 --> 25:45.441 Ba hana seo ka matla. 25:45.441 --> 25:49.266 Banana ba rata ho ba hara banana, mme bashanyana ba rata ho ba hara bashanyana, e. 25:49.266 --> 25:52.750 Hantle, ke dumela hore ho na le ntho e bitswang ntshetsopele ya tlhaho ho batho. 25:52.750 --> 26:01.927 Mme ke nahana hore e ka nna yaba ho jwalo, hore ho na le mofuta wa tsa botona le botshehadi o hole haholo le kamoo rona e 26:01.927 --> 26:06.088 le batho ba baholo re bonang tsa botona le botshehadi kateng. 26:06.088 --> 26:16.480 Kahoo, ho bolela hore nka nyatsa haholo batho ba baholo ba ipehelang boikarabelo ba ho ahlola tsa thobalano tsa bana. 26:16.480 --> 26:18.139 Ke moo e qalang teng ho 'na. 26:18.139 --> 26:20.416 Empa ke sona hantle se etsahalang. 26:20.416 --> 26:25.950 Lekala la batho ba baholo le ntseng le etswa tsa thobalano le fetisetsa pono ya lona boitshwarong ba bana ba banyenyane. 26:25.950 --> 26:28.806 Ho bile jwalo le ka Timmermans puong ya hae ya 2013: 26:28.806 --> 26:32.590 Hobane thobalano ke matla a bophelo, matla a bophelo, matla a bophelo. 26:32.590 --> 26:35.400 Ke hona moo pale ea rona e qalileng teng. 26:35.400 --> 26:40.104 Ho tloha ka 2014 ho ea pele, re ile ra kena literateng ho ipelaetsa khahlanong le merero ea thuto e ileng ea 26:40.104 --> 26:44.435 hlahisa letšolo la ho kenya tsa thobalano, haholo-holo likolong. 26:48.352 --> 26:54.442 Ka 2016, Junge Freiheit e ile ea etsa puisano le setsebi sa tsa thobalano Jakob Pastöter, eo ka nako eo e neng e le mopresidente 26:54.442 --> 26:58.819 oa Mokhatlo oa Jeremane oa Liphuputso tsa Mahlale a Sechaba mabapi le Thobalano, mathokong a 26:58.819 --> 27:01.824 seboka sa rona se neng se tšoaretsoe Stuttgart. 27:01.824 --> 27:04.292 Le ka nako eo, o ile a tletleba: 27:04.292 --> 27:11.189 Ka lehlakoreng le leng, ke nnete hore DGSS esale e hanyetsa diteng tsa seo ke se bitsang "thuto ya tsa botona le 27:11.189 --> 27:15.377 botshehadi e tsheheditsweng ke mmuso" ka dilemo tse ka bang 15. 27:15.377 --> 27:24.504 Sena se amana le taba ea hore ka lilemo tse ka bang 15, mohlomong le ho feta, ho hlakile hore ba amehang thutong ea tsa botona le 27:24.504 --> 27:32.357 botšehali, ba ka lehlakoreng le leng ba amohelang lichelete tse tsoang mmusong empa ka lehlakoreng le leng hape 27:32.357 --> 27:40.229 lingoliloeng tsa bona li ajoa ke mmuso, ba na le pono e sekameng haholo ka thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali. 27:40.229 --> 27:42.355 Sephetho se shebahala tjena, mohlala: 27:42.355 --> 27:47.284 "Sina le Tim ba bapala ho ba ngaka", e phatlalalitsoe ke Zartbitter e.V., e tšehelitsoe ka lichelete ke 27:47.284 --> 27:49.780 Toropo ea Cologne le Naha ea North Rhine-Westphalia. 27:49.780 --> 27:54.319 E 'ngoe ea mekhatlo e mengata e khothalletsang ho qala bana ba banyenyane bosebelong ba thobalano. 27:54.319 --> 27:58.656 Nka mpa ka bapala ngaka. 27:58.656 --> 28:00.034 Ao che. 28:00.034 --> 28:07.744 Ngaka, tloo, Tim, o ka ba 'mè 'me oa ba le lesea hape. 28:07.744 --> 28:15.872 Oh, ke hantle, hmm, ebe Ngaka. 28:15.872 --> 28:19.100 Lipapali tsa lingaka ke karolo ea khōlo e tloaelehileng ea ngoana. 28:19.100 --> 28:23.840 Ka bohelehele bo loketseng dilemo tsa bona le ho se nke lehlakore, esita le banana le bashanyana ba banyenyane 28:23.840 --> 28:26.935 haholo ba hlahloba ditho tsa bona tsa botona kapa bobedi. 28:26.935 --> 28:33.679 Ba thabela ho ama le ho tshwela, le ho fapanyetsana ka ho amana ka bonolo le bana ba bang. 28:33.679 --> 28:37.345 Nka mocheso oa 'mele oa hao. 28:37.345 --> 28:40.171 Dipapadi tsa dingaka ke karolo ya kgolo e tlwaelehileng ya botjha. 28:40.171 --> 28:43.294 Hore na ba thabela ho angoa kapa papali kapa che. 28:43.294 --> 28:47.336 Ho hlahlobana, ho thabela ho ba ba hlobotse, takatso ea ho shebella le ho shebeloa ke ba bang. 28:47.336 --> 28:52.378 Empa hape le ho itheola thobalano ha bana, e leng ntho e bakang pherekano e kholo har'a batho ba baholo. 28:52.378 --> 28:59.306 E mabapi le lerato le maikutlo le ho tshwaratshwara le ho sunana le metswalle ya banana le ho bapala 28:59.306 --> 29:03.897 ngaka le kamoo re ka kgothatsang malapa a tshwenyehileng. 29:03.897 --> 29:05.520 Mme ha se phetho. 29:05.520 --> 29:11.488 Morao oa lenaneo lena o re isa hole le ho feta, boemong bo phahameng ka ho fetisisa. 29:11.488 --> 29:16.291 Ke sona hantle se boletsoeng litekanyetsong tsa WHO tsa thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali Europe. 29:16.291 --> 29:22.422 E, ho na le matrix ena e tummeng hampe, mme bakeng sa bana ba dilemo tse pakeng tsa lefela le tse nne, tlasa 29:22.422 --> 29:26.144 sehlooho sa tsebo, monate le takatso, e re ba itlhele 'mele. 29:26.144 --> 29:33.667 Ho itšhola kapa maiphihlelo a monate a kamano ea 'mele ho bongoaneng, e le karolo ea bophelo ba motho. 29:33.667 --> 29:41.180 Mabapi le litsebo, sena se bolela ho hlahisa litlhoko, litakatso le meeli ea motho ka mong, mohlala papaling ea "ngaka". 29:41.180 --> 29:46.526 Mme bana ba dilemo tse nne ho isa ho tse tsheletseng ba ntse ba dumellwa ho bua ka ditaba tsa thobalano. 29:46.526 --> 29:48.840 Ba lokela ho bua ka litaba tsa thobalano. 29:48.840 --> 29:54.783 Ona ke motheo wa dipolotiki wa letšolo la ho kenya tsa thobalano, o phatlaladitsweng ke WHO ka tšebelisano e 29:54.783 --> 30:00.064 haufi le Setsi sa Federale sa Thuto ya Bophelo bo Botle, kapa ka bokgutshwanyane BZgA. 30:00.064 --> 30:07.502 Mekhatlo e ka bonahalang e tšepahala ho baahi ba bangata, empa lethathamo lena la lilemo ha le bonahale le tšepahala. 30:07.502 --> 30:14.535 Joaloka setsebi sa bongaka, nka bolela ka ho hlaka hore ke na le bothata le mekhoa ea tlhahlobo e sebelisoang ka bofofu ntle 30:14.535 --> 30:18.020 le ho shebisisa, ka litšoantšiso, ka litempeleite, le melao. 30:18.020 --> 30:19.259 Joalokaha eka bohle ba tšoana. 30:19.259 --> 30:24.064 Joalokaha eka ho na le mekhoa e itseng, meaho ea lilemo. U boletse Matrix, e tsoang ho WHO. 30:24.064 --> 30:27.059 Kahoo moo dihlopha tse itseng tsa dilemo di sebetswang, jwalo ka ha ho ka buuwa. 30:27.059 --> 30:29.765 Ho tloha ka nako eo, ho molemo ho etsa jwalo. 30:29.765 --> 30:37.422 Che, sebopuwa sena se ikemetse haholo, se rarahane haholo, se phela maemong a ikgethang a kelello le setjhaba, mme, ho ya ka 30:37.422 --> 30:42.857 kgolo ya sona ya tlhaho, ka nako e nngwe, haeba motho a se shebile mme a se ela hloko ka 30:42.857 --> 30:46.864 kutlwelobohloko e lekaneng, se tla qala ho botsa dipotso. 30:46.864 --> 30:53.720 Mme ke tla emela nako e telele hantle le ngwanaka, ke ke ke ka potlakela letho kapa ho mo qobella. 30:53.720 --> 30:55.780 Empa ke sona hantle se etsahalang mona. 30:55.780 --> 31:04.044 Ho qobelloa ha mohlala o belaetsang haholo, , ntle le bopaki bofe kapa bofe ba saense, ho pholletsa le kontinente eohle. 31:04.044 --> 31:08.680 Mme seo ha se sebetse Jeremane feela, empa ho sebetsa ho Yuropa kaofela. 31:08.680 --> 31:15.371 Fora, ho na le mokgatlo o bitswang "Mamans Louves" (Dibatana tsa Mè), o bileng o hlahlobile maemo a WHO mme 31:15.371 --> 31:19.877 wa laela phuputso e bontshitseng diphetho tse makatsang. 31:19.877 --> 31:24.620 Moahelani oa rona Fora le eena o tloaelane le bothata ba ho qala ho ba le thobalano kapele haholo. 31:24.620 --> 31:29.760 Le moo, ba kgannwa pele ke matla a tswelopele. 31:29.760 --> 31:34.856 Regine Schäfer o hlophisitse puisano ea video le Christelle Comet, eo e leng setho sa mokhatlo oa 31:34.856 --> 31:38.576 "Mamans Louves", o ka fetolehang e le "Bo-'mè Bahalaba". 31:38.576 --> 31:45.449 U ithutile ka botebo litekanyetso tsa WHO bakeng sa Europe. 31:45.449 --> 31:53.013 Ka lebaka la mefokolo eo re e hlokometseng boemong ba naha, re ne re batla ho tseba hore na ke lingoliloeng life tsa 31:53.013 --> 32:01.620 saense tseo ho thoeng li theha motheo oa se tlang ho kenngoa tšebetsong likolong tsa rona naheng ka bophara. 32:06.475 --> 32:13.044 Sephetho ke phuputso ena ea maqephe a mashome a tšeletseng, e phatlalalitsoeng ka 2024. 32:13.044 --> 32:20.312 O pepentse lintho tseo batsoali bohle le baetapele bohle ba lipolotiki ba lokelang ho li tseba, bonyane bao 32:20.312 --> 32:25.440 boiketlo ba bana e leng ntho ea bohlokoahali ho bona. 32:25.440 --> 32:33.443 Mme ke sona se bohlokwa ho rona: tlhompho bakeng sa boiketlo ba ngwana le tokelo ya motswadi ya ho hodisa bana ba hae. 32:33.443 --> 32:39.868 Thibault Kerlirzin, mongoli oa phuputso, o hlalosa hantle hore na sena se bolela'ng. 32:39.868 --> 32:45.775 Ho ile ha hlaka hore litekanyetso tsa WHO li ile tsa hlophisoa ke sehlopha sa litsebi se neng se sekametse lehlakoreng haholo. 32:45.775 --> 32:54.603 Sena ke hobane hoo e ka bang litsebi tsena kaofela ke litho tsa mekhatlo e amanang le Mokhatlo oa Machaba oa Planned Parenthood. 32:54.603 --> 33:00.513 Ka hona, ba bonahala e le baitseki ho fapana le bo-ramahlale. 33:02.240 --> 33:05.180 Mme seo se hlahisa potso ea hore na hobaneng. 33:05.180 --> 33:08.340 Ke mang ea nang le thahasello ntlafatsong ena? 33:08.340 --> 33:14.940 Thibault o ile a fumana karolo e tšoenyang ea karabo lenaneng la mehloli ea litekanyetso tsa WHO. 33:14.940 --> 33:19.592 Lenane la mehloli le na le likhaolo tse 'maloa tse eketsehileng, 'me ke se ke fumane batšehetsi ba bararo ba 33:19.592 --> 33:23.224 tlolo ea molao khahlanong le bana Khaolong e Eketsehileng A. 33:23.224 --> 33:28.240 Leha ho le jwalo, motheo, mme ka nako e tshwanang, ntlha e fokolang ya tokomane ena e ka fumanwa dingolweng tsa saense 33:28.240 --> 33:31.390 tse mabapi le ntshetsopele ya kelello le tsa thobalano ya bana. 33:31.390 --> 33:38.154 Har'a litšupiso tse ka bang 50, ke fumane tse 15 tse ka aroloang e le batšehetsi kapa batšehetsi ba thuto ea 33:38.154 --> 33:44.127 thobalano ea bongoaneng kapa esita le tlōlo ea molao ea tlhekefetso ea bana ka thobalano. 33:44.127 --> 33:51.467 U tla bona hore sena se kenyeletsa batho ba neng ba le mekhatlong e buellang e tšehetsang peadophilia pepenene. 33:51.467 --> 33:54.835 Ba e bitsa likamano tsa meloko e fapaneng. 33:54.835 --> 34:00.484 Har'a bona ho na le batho ba phatlalalitseng limakasine tse buellang thobalano ea bana ka bolokolohi. 34:00.484 --> 34:05.568 Dikgokahano di bontshitswe moetsisong ona webosaeteng ya Mamans Louves. 34:05.568 --> 34:09.664 Ka lebaka lena, Thibault o ile a arola litsebi tsa WHO ka lihlopha tse tharo: 34:09.664 --> 34:15.606 Botala bo bontša ho se kotsi, 'mala o mosehla o bontša ho belaetsa, 'mala o mofubelu o bontša lisekoere tse buellang 34:15.606 --> 34:22.822 ka ho hlaka likamano tsa thobalano tsa bana ba banyenyane haholo kapa esita le tlōlo ea molao ea bomenemene ba bana. 34:22.822 --> 34:27.406 Kgokahano ya Mojeremane le mekgatlo ya bafepi ba bana — Gunter Schmidt. 34:27.406 --> 34:31.187 Mohlala, o ile a sebedisana le Volkmar Sigusch e mong. 34:31.187 --> 34:37.626 Mme Sigusch o ne a boletse hore thobalano ya bongoaneng e ne e se mohlodi wa monate feela, empa hape e le tlhokeho. 34:37.626 --> 34:46.146 O ne a sebeletsa jenale ea Archives of Sexual Behaviour, e ntseng e le teng le kajeno 'me e thehiloe ke Richard Green. 34:46.146 --> 34:51.524 Richard Green e ne e le motšehetsi oa paedophilia mme e ne e le motsoalle oa Thomas O'Carroll. 34:51.524 --> 34:56.178 Eena, ka lehlakoreng la hae, e ne e le mothehi le molulasetulo oa mokhatlo o bitsoang Paedophile Information Exchange 34:56.178 --> 35:00.619 — sethala seo batho ba hlekefetsang bana ka thobalano ba neng ba fapanyetsana tlhahisoleseling ho sona. 35:00.619 --> 35:04.290 Sehlopha sena se ne se tsosa khang haholo mme se ne se batla hore likamano tsa thobalano 35:04.290 --> 35:07.960 lipakeng tsa batho ba baholo le bana li be molaong. 35:11.216 --> 35:16.577 Kamoo batho ba hlekefetsang bana ba kentseng maoto ka sekhukhu ka ho leqeleng mme ba hapa ntoa ea litokelo tsa botho, ho tlalehile 35:16.577 --> 35:20.371 koranta ea Guardian ea Borithane ka 2014 mabapi le mesebetsi ea Mokhatlo oa Phapanyetsano ea 35:20.371 --> 35:23.539 Tlhahisoleseling ka Bohlola-bana lilemong tsa bo-1970. 35:23.539 --> 35:28.170 Le hara ba letšehali la Jeremane, haholo-holo mokhatlo oa 1968, ho bile le boiteko ka nako eo 35:28.170 --> 35:31.616 ba ho etsa hore thobalano le bana e be molaong. 35:31.616 --> 35:36.572 Mehlala e tsebahalang: ralipolotiki oa Mokha oa Botala Daniel Cohn-Bendit, sehlopha sa mosebetsi sa 'muso sa Mokha oa Botala se 35:36.572 --> 35:41.566 bitsoang "Batho ba ratanang ka bong bo tšoanang, Bapederasta le Batho ba fetotseng bong" kapa sehlopha sa Jeremane sa liphuputso 35:41.566 --> 35:44.688 le mosebetsi se bitsoang "Paedophilia", seo boto ea sona ea batšehetsi ka nako e 35:44.688 --> 35:47.563 khuts'oane e neng e kenyeletsa Helmut Kentler. 35:47.563 --> 35:51.860 Le yena, o nkuwa e le mothehi wa lekala lena la thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi. 35:51.860 --> 35:57.960 Re ile ra sebetsana le liketso tsa hae tsa bophedophile ka botlalo filiming ea rona ea bopaki "KentlerGate". 35:57.960 --> 36:03.232 Kentler o ile a latelwa naheng ena ke Uwe Sielert, Volker Siegusch le Gunter Schmidt. 36:03.232 --> 36:06.772 Mohlala, selelekeleng sa hae sa buka ea Male Intergenerational Intimacy ea mathoasong a 36:06.772 --> 36:09.389 lilemo tsa bo-1990, Letzter o ile a ngola: 36:09.389 --> 36:14.464 Ho na le likamano tse atlehileng tsa bafepesi ba bana tse thusang le ho khothatsa ngoana. 36:14.464 --> 36:20.367 O ile a tswela pele: "Tšokelo ea ho etsa hore liketso tsohle tsa bomenemene ba bana li otleloe ka molao ha e 36:20.367 --> 36:27.520 na toka 'me e lokela ho felisoa, kaha e kenyelletsa khethollo le tlhoriso ea sehlotšoana." 36:27.520 --> 36:31.801 Ernst Bornemann o ile a itlhalosa ka ho hlaka hantle ka ho tšoana bukeng ea hae Das Geschlechtsleben des Kindes (Bophelo 36:31.801 --> 36:34.312 ba Thobalano ba Bana), eo ho eona a ileng a bolela hore: 36:34.312 --> 36:38.004 Liketsahalo tsa thobalano tsa ngoana tse se nang pefo ha se hakaalo hore li tlameha ho 36:38.004 --> 36:40.521 ba le litlamorao tse mpe bakeng sa ngoana. 36:40.521 --> 36:45.340 O boetse o hlaha maemong a WHO e le motšupiso, e leng ka buka ea hae: 36:45.340 --> 36:52.749 Childhood Faces of Maturity, moo a neng a bua ka tsa thobalano tseo ho thoeng li teng ho bana ba lilemo li 8. 36:52.749 --> 36:56.535 Molaetsa o ka sehloohong oa buka ena ke hore batho ke libopuoa tse nang le takatso ea 36:56.535 --> 36:59.095 thobalano ho tloha motsotsong oa ho koeteloa. 36:59.095 --> 37:05.354 Sena se iponahatsa ho bana ka litsela tse ngata — lipapaling tsa bona, monahanong oa bona o 37:05.354 --> 37:09.782 nonneng, tlhokong ea bona ea ho angoa le ho itšoareng. 37:09.782 --> 37:17.280 Hona ke hantle se ntseng se fetoha motheo oa mehopolo e mengata le ho feta ea likheo tsa masea ka BZGA le WHO. 37:17.280 --> 37:23.686 Ernst Bornemann le Gunter Schmidt — ke mehlala e 'meli ho e mengata e bontšang hore litekanyetso tsa WHO ha li thehoa 37:23.686 --> 37:31.960 feela ponong e sekameng haholo ea litsebi, empa ka linako tse ling li metse mehlong ka botebo mekhatlong ea bonyaluoa ba bana. 37:31.960 --> 37:37.392 Mme hoo ho reretsoe ho ba motheo wa ho hodisa bana ba rona? 37:37.392 --> 37:42.506 E, hantle, likhakanyo tsena tsa bomenemene ba bana ha li re makatse ho hang, hobane motsoali-moholo oa 37:42.506 --> 37:47.072 lenaneo lena lohle la thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali le khothaletsoang e ne e le Helmut Kentler. 37:47.072 --> 37:52.135 Mme Helmut Kentler e ne e le moitseki wa paedophilia mme kannete hape e ne e le mohlokofatsi. 37:52.135 --> 37:57.461 Hamorao o ile a fumanoa a le molato oa tlhekefetso ea bana, mme moithuti oa hae e ne e le Uwe Silert. 37:57.461 --> 38:03.229 Mme Uwe Silert, ka lehlakoreng la hae, o phethile karolo ya bohlokwa ho bopeng maemo a WHO a thuto ya tsa 38:03.229 --> 38:06.675 botona le botshehadi Europe ka mosebetsi wa hae ho BZGA. 38:06.675 --> 38:10.596 Hantle-ntle, mme tsena ka ho latela di na le tshusumetso e tobileng meralong ya thuto ya dinaha 38:10.596 --> 38:12.877 ka bonngwe tsa mmuso wa kopanelo mona Jeremane. 38:12.877 --> 38:17.588 Hoo e ka bang naha e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ea kopanelo, ntle le Bremen, e na le seo ho thoeng ke moralo oa thuto — moralo oa 38:17.588 --> 38:21.904 tataiso o hlalosang ka kotloloho hore na thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali e lokela ho etsoa joang litsing tsa 38:21.904 --> 38:24.607 tlhokomelo ea bana le hore na e lokela ho kenyelletsa eng. 38:24.607 --> 38:28.509 Mme moralo wa thuto wa Berlin o kenyeletsa hantle dintho tsena, tseo re di fumanang mehopolo 38:28.509 --> 38:30.775 ya thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi, e leng: 38:30.775 --> 38:35.238 Hamorao hanyane, bana ba sibolla litho tsa bona tsa botona kapa bobeli 'me ba li hlahloba ka matla. 38:35.238 --> 38:41.051 "Tlhokomelo ea tsa thobalano ke karolo ea bohlokoa ea khōlo e phetseng hantle ea kelello le 'mele, joalo ka ho natefeloa 38:41.051 --> 38:44.385 ke maikutlo a monate 'meleng oa motho," ho bolela Berlin. 38:44.385 --> 38:46.991 Kapa North Rhine-Westphalia, seo se bolela: 38:46.991 --> 38:54.518 Phapanyetsano ea lerato, ho angoana, le ho hlahloba 'mele ka mokhoa o sa reroang le ka bohelehele, li bohlokoa 38:54.518 --> 38:58.580 bakeng sa ho theha boitsebo le ho hlokomela bong ba motho. 38:58.580 --> 39:03.840 Sena hangata se etsahala ka tlhaho le ka kutloisiso ka papali. Bana ba kereche! 39:03.840 --> 39:09.452 Ke khopolo-taba. Empa mehopolo e joalo e bolela'ng ha e sebelisoa ke ba amehang? 39:09.452 --> 39:13.581 Bo-'mè ba babeli, ba ka bobeli ba lakatsang ho se boleloe mabitso a bona, ba hlalosa kamoo tsohle tsena li 39:13.581 --> 39:17.660 etsahetseng kateng setsing sa bona sa tlhokomelo ea bana. 39:17.660 --> 39:22.500 Nyeoe ea pele e etsahala setsing se tsamaisoang ke mokhatlo oa Volkssolidarität, se Saxony-Anhalt. 39:22.500 --> 39:29.476 Ke qale ho utloa ka mohopolo oa thuto ea thobalano ho tsoa mecheng e meng ea phatlalatso. 39:29.476 --> 39:37.156 Taba e ne e le haholo-holo ka hore mehopolo e joalo e teng ka boroa bo tebileng ba Jeremane, 'me kannete 39:37.156 --> 39:43.752 ke ile ka makala kapa ka tšoha hore ntho e joalo e teng, empa kamehla ke ne ke ipolella: 39:43.752 --> 39:50.860 Oho, ha e le rona — mona setsidifatsing sa motse — hantle, hoo ho ke ke ha etsahala le ka mohla, kapa bonyane ha ho fihle moo. 39:50.860 --> 39:56.005 Empa hole le hoo. Ka letsatsi le leng, mehopolo e mecha bakeng sa phapusi ea masea e phatlalatsoa 39:56.005 --> 40:00.000 mokolokong oa batsoali oa mantsiboea — ntle le hore e hlalosoe. 40:00.000 --> 40:03.296 Tlhahisoleseding e batsi e ka fumanwa letlapaneng la tlhahisoleseding. 40:03.296 --> 40:09.942 Ka nako e 'ngoe, ke ne ke le letlapaneng lena la tlhahisoleseling 'me ka bala ka mohopolo ona oa thuto ea thobalano 40:09.942 --> 40:14.624 hammoho le mehopolo ea sebaka le mehopolo ea pefo, hore o teng. 40:14.624 --> 40:22.560 Ka falima mme ka e tlisa pele ho lekgotla la batswadi ba rona, ke ba kopa hore ba batlisise taba eo. 40:22.560 --> 40:24.280 Mme ke seo ba se entseng. 40:24.280 --> 40:33.550 Mme ke ka tsela ena feela moo diteng tsa mohopolo di tla tsebahala — e leng, hantle-ntle se kgothaletswang ke WHO le BZGA. 40:33.550 --> 40:39.380 Mme elellwa, ho bonahala sena sohle se ne se lokela ho kenngwa tshebetsong ka sephiri, ntle le hore batswadi ba tsebe. 40:39.380 --> 40:42.649 Hantle, poleloana 'khopolo ea thuto ea thobalano' ha e e-s'o ka e boleloa. 40:42.649 --> 40:46.963 Ke balile seo feela mona leqepheng lena la puisano — ka mongolo o monyane haholo ka har'a likhakholo. 40:46.963 --> 40:54.649 Ke nahana hore taba ya bohlokwa hakana e ka be e loketse ho romelwa ka imeile e potolohang, kapa kopano ya batswadi, kapa 40:54.649 --> 40:58.866 hona ho ngolwa lengolo la tlhahisoleseding kapa ntho e tshwanang. 40:58.866 --> 41:01.312 Hobane taba eo e bohlokwa. 41:01.312 --> 41:04.721 Bonyane nyeoe ea bobeli e ne e hlakile haholoanyane. 41:04.721 --> 41:07.320 Sena se etsahala setsing sa tlhokomelo ya masea se Lower Saxony. 41:07.320 --> 41:11.435 Re ne re e-na le likopano tsa batsoali tsa kamehla 'me re ne re lula re tsebisoa ka ntho e ncha. 41:11.435 --> 41:19.600 Mme yaba — mantsiboyeng ao, botsamaisi ba kereche le matitjhere ba re bolella hore ho na le mohopolo o motjha le hore bana ba 41:19.600 --> 41:24.837 hloka ho bua ka bolokolohi bo boholo ka tsa bona tsa thobalano. 41:24.837 --> 41:30.674 Ke ka lebaka leo ba neng ba hloma k'honara ka phaposing ea bana moo bana ba neng ba ka ba bang ba le bang 41:30.674 --> 41:35.480 — 'me moo, ha e le hantle, ho neng ho lumelloa hoo e ka bang ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe. 41:35.480 --> 41:39.420 Kahoo lipapali tseo ho thoeng ke tsa lingaka — motho a ke ke a kena-kenana haholo le tsona. 41:39.420 --> 41:41.760 Leha ho le jwalo, bana ba ne ba tla bolelloa moo meedi e leng teng. 41:41.760 --> 41:48.941 Ka nako eo ho ile ha bolelwa hore e, le ne le dumelletswe ho ba ba hlobotseng, le ne le dumelletswe ho 41:48.941 --> 41:57.302 angoana, mme e — ho ithuta ka bowena le ka ba bang — bashanyana le banana — ba kopane mmoho. 41:57.302 --> 41:59.960 Ee, empa ka tsela e itseng ke ne ke nahana hore re holisitse ngoana oa rona ka tsela e fapaneng. 41:59.960 --> 42:03.488 Seo se ke ke sa fella moo ho hang. 42:03.488 --> 42:05.240 Empa lintho li ile tsa fela ka tsela e fapaneng. 42:05.240 --> 42:11.429 Kahoo ke fihlile hoseng — ke ile ka isa mora oa rona e monyenyane setsing sa bana ba banyenyane, eaba tichere 42:11.429 --> 42:14.979 ea teng ea nthōma hore na nka kena thapama ho tla qoqa. 42:14.979 --> 42:17.700 Ho bile le ketsahalo. 42:17.700 --> 42:19.917 Mme ke ya potsolotsong thapameng ena. 42:19.917 --> 42:24.473 Hlooho ea setsi sa tlhokomelo ea masea le tichere ea setsi sa tlhokomelo ea masea ba ne ba lutse moo. 42:24.473 --> 42:27.340 Mme ba o boleletse hore ho etsahetse eng moo? 42:27.340 --> 42:33.340 E, 'me ka mor'a moo ba re mora oa rona ha a latela melao. 42:33.340 --> 42:38.528 Mohlomong ha ho a ka ha etsahala k'honeng ena, empa ka ntlwaneng ya ho hlapela. 42:38.528 --> 42:44.780 O ne a ke ke a amohela 'che' ea ngoana e mong 'me o ne a tla mo tšoara. 42:44.780 --> 42:48.620 Empa seo se ne se ke ke sa batleha. 42:48.620 --> 42:54.400 Mme ka tswa ke ferekane ka ho feletseng qalong, mme ka nahana, na seo e ka ba nnete ruri? 42:54.400 --> 42:57.440 Mme ka ntan'o re feela ke tla bua le mora wa ka. 42:57.440 --> 43:00.481 Hantle, ha a ka a mpolella letho ka hona. 43:00.481 --> 43:02.308 Mme ka mor'a moo le ile la buisana ka taba eo le mora oa hao? 43:02.308 --> 43:02.765 Hantle-ntle. 43:02.765 --> 43:07.167 Ke ile ka mo nka hang-hang — e ne e se e le nako ea ho mo nka. 43:07.167 --> 43:14.080 Eaba re lula fatshe ka kgutso lapeng mme ka motsa feela: Npolelle, ho etsahetseng moo? 43:14.080 --> 43:21.216 Eaba ka tsela e itseng o ba monyane haholo, a sheba tlase mme a re: "Mme, ha ke a etsa letho ho hang." 43:21.216 --> 43:23.800 Ke ile ka mmolella seo a qosoang ka sona. 43:23.800 --> 43:28.141 O re: E, ke a tseba, empa ha ke a tshwara ngwana e mong. 43:28.141 --> 43:30.847 Ho ne ho se letho leha e le lefe. 43:30.847 --> 43:33.740 Empa jwale e ne e le lentswe la motho a le mong kgahlanong le la e mong. 43:33.740 --> 43:35.777 Mor'a ka o ile a fetoha motlōli oa molao ka tšohanyetso. 43:35.777 --> 43:38.813 Ho qosoa hore o ile a ama ngoana, 'me ngoana ha a ka a rata seo. 43:38.813 --> 43:43.480 Mme taba eo e ile ya sala e sa rarollwa — e ne e sa hlake. 43:43.480 --> 43:46.080 Mme eo ke bothata ba motheo. 43:46.080 --> 43:50.596 Sena se boetse se bonahala maemong a belaelloang a tlhekefetso e etsoang ke batho ba baholo, joalokaha 43:50.596 --> 43:53.300 ho hlalositsoe tlalehong ena ea Hessischer Rundfunk. 43:53.300 --> 43:59.010 Motho ea hlekefetsang bana ba banyenyane ea sebetsang le bona o na le kotsi e nyenyane haholo ea ho tšoaroa, ho latela 43:59.010 --> 44:02.784 'muelli oa molao oa mohlaseluoa Ulrich Warnke oa White Ring. 44:02.784 --> 44:07.831 Sena ke hobane tsamaisong ea toka ho na le kgopolo e atileng ya hore dipolelo tse etswang ke bana ba ka tlase 44:07.831 --> 44:11.104 ho dilemo tse 4 ha di na matla lekgotleng la ditsheko. 44:11.104 --> 44:16.313 Lebaka ke hore: bana ha ba khone ho hopola lintho ka tsela e tšoanang le ea batho ba baholo, 'me lipolelo tsa bona li ka 'na 44:16.313 --> 44:19.580 tsa susumetsoa ke batsoali ba bona le batho ba bang ba baholo. 44:19.580 --> 44:23.474 Mokgwa ona ke o hlokang ho nahana ka botebo, haholoholo ha ho shejwa dikamano tsa 44:23.474 --> 44:27.680 bonyanyetsi tsa bana tse senotsweng tsa ditsebi tsa WHO. 44:27.680 --> 44:30.436 Ka hona lipolelo tsa bona ha li sebetse ka lekhotleng. 44:30.436 --> 44:34.384 Mme bothata hape ke hore moo ho nang le tlhekefetso hara bana, qetellong taba e sala e le 44:34.384 --> 44:36.094 lentswe la motho a le mong kgahlanong le la e mong. 44:36.094 --> 44:38.631 'Mè e mong o e hlalositse ka ho hlaka haholo. 44:38.631 --> 44:45.764 Mora wa hae ke moqosuoa, ka mantsoe a qotsitsoeng, mme ehlile o a mo tshepa. 44:45.764 --> 44:51.008 Mehopolo e jwalo e boetse e bonahala e kgothalletsa ditlhaselo tsa thobalano hara bana, 44:51.008 --> 44:55.140 tseo hamorao di sa kgoneng le ho fuputswa. 44:55.140 --> 45:01.090 Mme o hopola, leha e ne e le lilemo tse ngata tse fetileng, o ntse a hopola taba eo ho fihlela kajeno mme o 45:01.090 --> 45:07.424 hlajoa ke lihlong ke eona kaofela, leha a ntse a pheha khang ea hore ha se eena ea e entseng. 45:07.424 --> 45:13.040 Na bana ba banyenyane le bona ba ka ba baetsi ba mpe, kapa na lentsoe lena ha le a tšoanela moelelong ona? 45:13.040 --> 45:19.712 Na bana ba babedi ha se bahlaselwa ba maemo a sa lokelang ao batho ba baholo ba nang le boikarabelo ba ona? 45:19.712 --> 45:22.917 Hantle, lefatše le ntse le bōptjoa. 45:22.917 --> 45:30.174 Bana ba kenngoa ka tsela e sa tloaelehang nthong e itseng 'me ba qobelloa ho e amohela, moo qetellong ba iphumana ba le seo 45:30.174 --> 45:37.515 nka se hlalosang e le tsa botona le botšehali bo sa tloaelehang, ke hore, bo sa holang ka tlhaho, joalokaha ho tloaelehile. 45:37.515 --> 45:42.000 Jwalokaha ke boletse, hape, hodima motheo wa kamano e ntle le kgolo e phetseng hantle, bophelo bo botle 45:42.000 --> 45:44.416 ba tsa thobalano qetellong bo tla ipopa ka boyona. 45:44.416 --> 45:45.705 Tsela ke ena. 45:45.705 --> 45:53.441 Mona, tšitiso e etsahala kapele-pele bophelong ba motho, e sa amane ka mokhoa ona le tsa thobalano. 45:53.441 --> 46:07.788 Mme jwale, ehlile, e ka boela ya hodiswa ka tsela e sa pheliseng hantle, mme qetellong e ka nna ya sitoa ho amohela meedi. 46:07.788 --> 46:14.505 Mme mohlomong le dihlong, manyala le ts'ireletso ya mmele ya tlhaho le tsona di ka se hole hantle. 46:14.505 --> 46:17.888 Mme seo, ehlile, se bula monyako wa tlhekefetso. 46:17.888 --> 46:24.474 Kahoo qetellong, nka nahana hantle hore sena ha e le hantle se lebisa ho se fapaneng hantle le seo ba seng ba lumela hore 46:24.474 --> 46:30.462 thobalano ea bana e lokela ho khothaletsoa ba sa le banyenyane e le hore ba ka ipehela meeli kapele, seo ba se 46:30.462 --> 46:34.095 tšepang. Nka re ho etsahalang ke se fapaneng hantle le seo. 46:34.095 --> 46:39.280 Mme sena jwale se bonahala le ka dipalopalo, bonyane North Rhine-Westphalia. 46:39.280 --> 46:47.780 Ho ile ha hlaka hore palo ea litlhaselo tsa thobalano har'a bana likolong tsa bana e nyolohile haholo lilemong tsa morao tjena. 46:47.780 --> 46:54.815 Dipalopalo tsa moraorao tsa sepolesa tsa botlokotsebe le tsona di bontsha keketseho e kgolo, athe dipalo tsa bosholu bo 46:54.815 --> 47:01.580 bobebe, mohlala, e leng boitshwaro bo tlwaelehileng haholo ho bana, di dutse di batla di tshwana ho theosa le dilemo. 47:01.580 --> 47:09.202 Hantle, ha bana ba hlahelletsoe ke tlhekefetso e joalo, ke tlameha ho nahana hore maikutlo a bona a 47:09.202 --> 47:14.635 imetsoe, mme maemong a mabe ka ho fetisisa, ba na le trauma. 47:14.635 --> 47:24.974 Mme haeba o tlwaelane le dikgokahano tsena ho tswa ho traumatology, re bua ka tlhoko e matla ya phetapheto, ke 47:24.974 --> 47:30.548 hore, tlhoko e matla ya ho pheta diketsahalo tse tsosang. 47:30.548 --> 47:34.713 O tlameha ho e nahana e le karabelo e latellanang. 47:34.713 --> 47:41.113 Haeba ke na le palo e itseng ea bana ba ka hlalosoang e le ba amehileng, 'me ha ba fumane tšehetso 47:41.113 --> 47:45.124 ea kalafo kapa kotsi ena ea maikutlo ha e rarolloe. 47:45.124 --> 47:51.390 Ebe ba fetisetsa maiphihlelo ana a bohloko ho bana ba bang. 47:51.390 --> 47:57.271 Mme seo se hlalosa, bonyane ho isa bohōleng bo itseng, ntshetsopele ena ya dipalopalo. 47:57.271 --> 47:59.971 Sena le sona se tšehetsoa ke mecha ea phatlalatso. 47:59.971 --> 48:09.021 Ke bolela hore, ha o hopola, ho ne ho tloaelehile hore ditaba tse amanang le tsa thobalano di be lenaneong la mantsiboya. 48:09.021 --> 48:12.629 Empa bana ba kajeno ba e fumana habonolo. 48:12.629 --> 48:18.508 Mme hoo ho batla ho se bothata ho hang hore bana ba shebelle diponahalo tse jwalo difiliming 48:18.508 --> 48:22.464 kapa dipapading tsa khomphutha kapa eng kapa eng. 48:22.464 --> 48:31.521 Mme seo, ehlile, ke bothata ha mehopolo ya thuto e latela tsela e tshwanang mme thobalano e 48:31.521 --> 48:36.684 kgothalletswa ka matla ho bana nako le nako. 48:36.684 --> 48:41.520 Seo ha se amane ho hang le boikgethelo ba ngwana. 48:41.520 --> 48:47.925 Ha o ho bona khafetsa mecheng ea litaba, ha o ho utloa khafetsa, 'me hape ho boleloa le likolong tsa 48:47.925 --> 48:51.344 bana ba banyenyane, mohlala, "Tloong, ipatlisiseng." 48:51.344 --> 48:59.854 Mme ha o qala ho etsa thobalano, ha e sa le ntho eo ngwana a iketsetsang qeto ka yona. Ho ena le hoo, qeto e etsetswa ngwana. 48:59.854 --> 49:01.246 E lokela ho etsa jwalo. 49:01.246 --> 49:03.680 Ke tsela eo re e nkang. 49:03.680 --> 49:08.300 Mme jwale ke na le kgatello ya sehlopha eo ngwana a fumanang ho le thata ho e hanela. 49:08.300 --> 49:15.094 Mme ha o eketsa ho seo batho bao o sa ba tsebeng bao qetellong ba se nang kamano le ntshetsopele ya mafu a kelello le methapo, 49:15.094 --> 49:21.510 thuto ya kelello, kalafo ya kelello kapa tlhahlobo ya kelello, jwalo ka baoki ba bana ba banyenyane, mohlala, bao ba sa 49:21.510 --> 49:27.387 kwetlisetswang maemong ana ho arabela ka kutlwelobohloko, hore na ke bana ba jwang ba romelwang dikgutlwaneng 49:27.387 --> 49:30.622 tsena tse mabothobotho, mme haele hantle ba tswa kae? 49:30.622 --> 49:32.953 Ba ile ba iphumanang le eng ha ba le hae? 49:32.953 --> 49:39.066 Na e ka ba hore moshanyana, kapa esita le ngwanana, ba ile ba tobana le litaba tsa thobalano tse sa pheleng hantle 49:39.066 --> 49:42.989 lapeng ba sa le banyenyane, mme mohlomong ba bile ba hlekefelwa? 49:42.989 --> 49:50.487 Kahoo ke siea bana ba babedi ba seng ba ntse ba hola ka botho, ba seng ba bile le maiphihlelo a bona a pele a dikgohlano mme le 49:50.487 --> 49:57.832 bona ba ka fetoha batho ba dikgohlano, ke hore, batho ba ka hlekefelwang habonolo. E mong hape ya ka hlekefelwang habonolo. 49:57.832 --> 50:05.351 Mme ha ba babedi ba bona ba kopana — ke bua ka matla, ke bua ka tlhekefetso — jwale ho etsahala mefuta yohle ya dintho 50:05.351 --> 50:13.660 dikgutlwaneng tsena tse monate tseo re neng re ke ke ra di nahana le ditoro tsa rona tse mpe, dintho tseo bana ba di etsetsanang. 50:13.660 --> 50:18.097 Leha ho le jwalo, mehopolo ena e a utlwahala ka mabaka a thibelo ya tlhekefetso, hodima tsohle. 50:18.097 --> 50:25.456 Ehlile, thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali e boetse e mabapi le ho netefatsa hore bana ba maemong a kotsi ba 50:25.456 --> 50:31.928 khona ho batla thuso, ho retelehela ho motho e mong le ho ba le puo e hlokahalang ho etsa joalo. 50:31.928 --> 50:37.443 AWO, e leng e nngwe ya bafani ba baholo ka ho fetisisa ba tlhokomelo ya bana Jeremane, e bile e phatlaladitse mofuta wa 50:37.443 --> 50:42.773 yona wa lenaneo la WHO ka hara bukana e nang le sehlooho se reng "Mehopolo ya tshireletso kgahlanong le tlhekefetso 50:42.773 --> 50:45.964 ya thobalano ya bana le batjha ditsing le ditshebeletsong". 50:45.964 --> 50:52.544 Mme ho yona re bala seo re se tlwaetseng haholo, ho tloha ho Kentler ho ya ho Timmermanns . 50:52.544 --> 50:55.729 Mme ba ntse ba eketseha. 50:55.729 --> 50:59.711 E, mona mohopolong oa setsi sa tlhokomelo ea bana ba banyenyane o tsoang Lower Saxony, mohlala, ho ngoliloe tjena: 50:59.711 --> 51:05.178 Lipapali tsa ho hlahloba 'mele, tse atisang ho bitsoa lipapali tsa ngaka, ke e 'ngoe ea mekhoa e tloaelehileng le e 51:05.178 --> 51:08.513 tsebahalang haholo ea ho bontša thobalano ea bongoaneng. 51:08.513 --> 51:16.931 Ho thibela tlolo ya meedi, ho bohlokwa hore batswadi, bathusi ba thuto le ditsebi ditheong ba buisane kgafetsa le 51:16.931 --> 51:21.540 bana ka melao e latelang ya dipapadi tsa ho hlahloba mmele. 51:21.540 --> 51:26.349 1. Ho nka karolo ka boithaopo — na bankakarolo bohle ba batla ho bapala papali? 51:26.349 --> 51:30.816 2. O ka re emisa nako efe kapa efe. Che ke che! 51:30.816 --> 51:32.727 3. Ha ho motho ya tla ntshwabisiwa. 51:32.727 --> 51:35.725 4. Ha ho letho le kenngwang ka hara diphatlha tsa mmele. 51:35.725 --> 51:39.645 5. Lilemo tse batlang li tšoana: Phapang ea lilemo ha ea lokela ho ba kholo haholo, e le 51:39.645 --> 51:41.984 hore ho se be le ho se leka-lekane ha matla. 51:41.984 --> 51:46.454 6. Thuso e ka batlwa nako efe kapa efe. Ho kopa thuso ha se ho panya. 51:46.454 --> 51:51.565 Hantle, tseo ke melao e tloaelehileng, mme ha ke nahana ka ho lula ke bolella bana melao e 51:51.565 --> 51:54.600 joalo, ke sona hantle se ba fang mohopolo oo qalong. 51:54.600 --> 52:00.386 E, ruri! Ha o hlahisa mehopolo ena, pele o etsa hore bana ba bone hore dintho tse jwalo di 52:00.386 --> 52:03.640 teng, ebe o ba kgothalletsa ho batlisisa ho feta. 52:03.640 --> 52:08.294 Mme seo ha e le hantle ha se hlokahale ho hang bakeng sa bana. 52:08.294 --> 52:12.405 Haeba e sa ikholise, empa e ikholisa feela ka matla ana. 52:12.405 --> 52:17.216 Ntho e qabolang ka taba ena kaofela ke hore, ha e le hantle, ha ho le e 'ngoe ea likhopolo tsena tsa thuto ea tsa botona 52:17.216 --> 52:19.646 le botšehali e tla ba tlamo litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana. 52:19.646 --> 52:21.312 Ho dula ho utlwahala jwalo, empa ha ho jwalo ho hang. 52:21.312 --> 52:26.738 Ntho e le 'ngoe feela eo ba neng ba tlamehile ho e etsa e ne e le ho fana ka moralo oa tšireletso khahlanong 52:26.738 --> 52:31.285 le tlhekefetso ka tlas'a Molao ona oa Matlafatso ea Bana le Bacha oa 2021 ho isa ho 2024. 52:31.285 --> 52:36.470 Nurseri e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe e tlameha ho ba le sena e le hore e fumane kapa e boloke laesense ea eona ea ts'ebetso. 52:36.470 --> 52:39.593 Mme e le karolo ya mohopolo ona wa tshireletso kgahlanong le dikgoka, jwale kaofela ba se ba kenya 52:39.593 --> 52:41.600 tshebetsong mehopolo ena ya thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi. 52:41.600 --> 52:43.046 Mme tsohle lia ferekanngoa. 52:43.046 --> 52:49.936 Maikemisetso a thibelo ke ho netefatsa hore batho ba baholo ha ba hlekefelletse bana le ho thibela tlhekefetso ea 52:49.936 --> 52:53.285 thobalano ea bana ke batho ba baholo litsing tsa sechaba. 52:53.285 --> 52:57.842 Ka nako e tšoanang, batho ba re, e le ho thibela tlhekefetso ea bana, re hlahisa mehopolo ea thuto ea tsa botona le 52:57.842 --> 53:00.324 botšehali e le hore bana ba tsebe ho bitsa lintho ka mabitso. 53:00.324 --> 53:01.980 Empa seo ha se ame bana ho hang. 53:01.980 --> 53:05.040 O tlameha ho bua le batho ba baholo e le ho thibela tlhekefetso ea thobalano. 53:05.040 --> 53:10.139 Hantle, ke nahana hore maemong ao ngoana a tlamehang ho re Tjhe e le ho qoba ho 53:10.139 --> 53:13.463 hlekefelwa ke bana ba bang, seo e se e le tlhekefetso. 53:13.463 --> 53:15.152 E, seo se se se nkiloe ka hloko. 53:15.152 --> 53:23.272 Ha re bapala, ha re utlwise ba bang bohloko. Tjhe, tjhe. 53:23.272 --> 53:29.714 Ha o re EMISA... - E, ke a tseba. - ...re tla emisa, ho lokile. 53:29.714 --> 53:36.531 … Na bana ba ka hana, kapa na mokgwa wa ho itshwara wa batho ba baholo o ntse o kenngwa le ho bana ba banyenyane mona? 53:36.531 --> 53:39.411 "Nka mpa ka re ha e sebetse." 53:39.411 --> 53:42.833 Ehlile, o lokela ho bolella bana hore melemo ke ea bona le hore ha ho motho ea 53:42.833 --> 53:45.588 lumelletsoeng ho ba tšoara haeba ba sa batle ho tšoaroa. 53:45.588 --> 53:47.357 Sena se tlameha ebile se lokela ho fetisetsoa ho bana. 53:47.357 --> 53:49.625 Motho ha a lokela ho lebella hore ba ka etsa jwalo. 53:49.625 --> 53:53.743 E seng dilemong tseo, e seng dilemong tsa kereche, ruri ba ke ke ba kgona ho etsa jwalo. 53:53.743 --> 53:57.821 Ba ka etsa seo hamorao lilemong tsa bona tsa bocha – 'me ba bangata ba bona ba ntse ba sitoa ho etsa 53:57.821 --> 54:00.007 seo, e. Kahoo le uena u tlameha ho ithuta ho re CHE. 54:00.007 --> 54:04.454 Empa o ke ke wa lebella hore bana ba dilemo tsa kereche ba kgone ho etsa jwalo. 54:04.454 --> 54:16.896 Ke qaleho ya ho ithuta hore nka ipehela meedi – empa ke tla kgona ho etsa jwalo feela hamorao haholo, ka nnete. 54:16.896 --> 54:18.532 E, ha re hlaloseng ka ho hlaka: 54:18.532 --> 54:24.885 Karolo e itseng ea thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali e amanang ka ho totobala le bokoa ba bana e nkuoe ke mekhatlo e nang le 54:24.885 --> 54:31.549 tšusumetso e kholo, e e sebelisang ho qobella lenaneo le tletseng mathata a maholo, ka sepheo sa ho etsa hore lintho tse lokelang 54:31.549 --> 54:36.508 ho sebetsoa ke bachochisi le liofisi tsa boiketlo ba bacha e be karolo ea bophelo ba letsatsi le 54:36.508 --> 54:40.079 letsatsi litsing tsa tlhokomelo ea bana ba banyenyane. 54:40.079 --> 54:45.655 "Ofisi ea Naha ea Boiketlo ba Bacha e Lower Saxony e koetse 'kamore ea ho hlahloba 'mele' setsing sa tlhokomelo ea bana 54:45.655 --> 54:48.563 se tsamaisoang ke Mokhatlo oa Boiketlo ba Basebetsi e Hanover. 54:48.563 --> 54:54.236 Kgopolo ya thuto e ile ya nkuwa ke Lekala la Thuto e le e behang boiketlo ba bana kotsing. 54:54.236 --> 54:59.092 Ho bile le thabo e kholo ka 2023, joalokaha eka tsohle li ne li makatsa hakaalo. 54:59.092 --> 55:02.601 Empa ha e le hantle, sena ke sona hantle se etsahalang litsing tsohle tsa rona tsa tlhokomelo ea bana. 55:02.601 --> 55:07.420 Mme mecha e meng ya phatlalatso ya leqeleng e ntse e tshehetsa morero ona ka nako e telele. 55:07.420 --> 55:12.545 Leha ho le jwalo, "moea wa 'woke'" jwale o sokela ho laola mecheng ya phatlalatso, jwalo ka ha ho 55:12.545 --> 55:15.980 bonahala tlalehong ena ya lebatooa ya SAT ya Mmesa 2025: 55:15.980 --> 55:20.429 "Lipapali tsa bongaka kapa tlhahlobo ya mmele phaposing ya masea, ho itheola..." 55:20.429 --> 55:22.953 Lower Saxony hape, ho tšoana le Hanover. 55:22.953 --> 55:27.442 Empa ho e-na le ho e thibela, letona la setso joale le ntse le sireletsa mohopolo ona ka lipolelo tsohle tsa 55:27.442 --> 55:29.806 nnete e sa felelang le mashano ao re a senotseng mona. 55:29.806 --> 55:36.482 "Setsi se seng le se seng se tlamehile ho hlalosa mehopolo ea sona mabapi le hore na se sebetsana le kholo ea ngoana joang le 55:36.482 --> 55:42.944 ka hona, ho sibolla 'mele ea bona, hobane sena ke sa bohlokoa haholo e le hore qetellong ho sireletsoe bana khahlanong le 55:42.944 --> 55:48.712 tlhekefetso - 'me tsena li thehiloe holim'a litekanyetso tsa thuto le saense 'me ka hona li shebisisoa le ho 55:48.712 --> 55:51.632 hlahlojoa ka hloko ke Ofisi ea Naha ea Boiketlo ba Bacha." 55:51.632 --> 55:56.362 "Ha o nka karolo e le 'ngoe feela ntle le moelelo oa eona, joalo ka ba ikarabellang 55:56.362 --> 56:00.420 Bramsche, ho ka potlakela ho baka ho se utloisisane." 56:00.420 --> 56:02.697 Ho se utlwisisane? Le hanyenyane! 56:02.697 --> 56:06.965 Ke ho beha bana kotsing ho tšehelitsoeng ke 'muso, e khothalletsoang ke ba nang le maikutlo 56:06.965 --> 56:10.740 a leqeleng mecheng ea litaba le lipolotiking. 56:10.740 --> 56:16.874 Ntle le litšōmo tse kang thibelo ea tlhekefetso le ho tiea ha saense, ho na le ntlha e 'ngoe e amehang: matla a molao. 56:16.874 --> 56:22.508 Sena se ka boela sa bonahala ho Timmermann 2013: ditokelo tse bolelwang e le tsa bana. 56:22.508 --> 56:29.733 "Ehlile, sena se boetse se kenyeletsa tokelo ea khōlo e ntle le e ikhethang ea tsa thobalano bakeng sa bana..." 56:29.733 --> 56:36.985 Ka bokgutshwanyane: hobane bana ba na le tokelo ya thuto ya tsa botona le botshehadi, eo batswadi ba bona ba nnang ba e hana, 56:36.985 --> 56:42.340 mmuso o tlameha ho kena dipakeng ho tiisa tokelo ena e bolelwang. 56:42.340 --> 56:47.190 Mme ke ka lebaka leo, ho ya ka pono ya mohopolo ona, se leng se loketseng ka ho fetisisa ke sena: 56:47.190 --> 56:51.160 thobalano ya bosea kgahlanong le ya batho ba baholo. 56:51.160 --> 56:59.055 Ba hanelang bana bongoana ba bona mme ba ba nka e le batho ba tsa thobalano ba ka amohela tsoelopele ena, empa ba 56:59.055 --> 57:07.340 tlameha ho ipotsa hore na e ka ba ketsahalo feela hore e qalile libakeng tseo ho tsona bana e leng seo feela: 57:07.340 --> 57:13.020 Lintho tse lakatsehang tsa thobalano bakeng sa batho ba baholo ba hlekefetsang bana. 57:19.200 --> 57:24.418 Empa leha ho le jwalo, e kenyeleditswe ka hara mokgwa ona o atileng hohle wa ho tjhesehela mefuta-futa, e phehelwa ntle le 57:24.418 --> 57:28.439 dihlong—ka matla a maholo hoo le ka lehlakoreng la ba ts'oereng mekgwa ya kgale, ho batlang ho 57:28.439 --> 57:32.120 se na ralipolotiki ya itetang sefuba ho hanyetsa. 57:33.648 --> 57:38.876 "Re abetse litho tsohle tsa Paramente ea Europe phuputso ena." 57:38.876 --> 57:47.353 Re ne re e-na le lenane la batho ba 700, 'me ka bomalimabe ke ba 3 feela ho bona ba arabileng. 57:47.353 --> 57:54.660 Ho fihlela jwale, ha ho kgato e nkilweng ho belaella botshepehi ba tokomane ena. 57:57.466 --> 58:04.135 Sena se bontsha hore na boradipolotiki ba kgathalla ho sireletsa bana hakae matsatsing ana. 58:04.135 --> 58:10.380 Ho buisanwa ka ditaba tse ngata, empa ke ka sewelo di amang bana. 58:13.617 --> 58:21.634 "Ka lebaka la hore sehlopha sa litsebi le mehloli e sebelisitsoeng ka bobeli li na le leeme, ke lumela hore 58:21.634 --> 58:29.842 ho tsoela pele ka mofuta ona oa thuto ea thobalano ho arola bana ka ho feletseng tlhaho ea bona ea mantlha." 58:29.842 --> 58:36.958 Mme haeba ba etsa hore bana ba tloaele ho ba le likamano tsa thobalano ba sa le banyenyane, kapa ho bona tsa thobalano e le 58:36.958 --> 58:44.131 ntho e ka sebelisoang joaloka limonate, ke hore, e le ntho e rekisoang, haeba ba tloaetse ho lula ba chencha balekane, joale 58:44.131 --> 58:52.040 ho hlaha potso ea hore na motho enoa o tla etsa qeto ea ho qala lelapa neng, mohlala, le ho kena likamanong tse tsitsitseng? 58:52.040 --> 58:58.376 Ke kamoo batsoali ba bangata ba ikutloang kateng. Ke lona lebaka le tobileng la hore ho be le khanyetso, mme e na le molemo. 58:58.376 --> 59:02.028 'Mè oa Saxony-Anhalt, hammoho le batsoali ba bang, o atlehile ho emisa kenyelletso ea mohopolo ona 59:02.028 --> 59:04.320 setsing sa hae sa tlhokomelo ea bana ka nako ena. 59:04.320 --> 59:11.672 "Ka kakaretso, ke ne ke ferekantsoe ke taba ea hore ho na le khopolo ea thuto ea tsa botona le botšehali ho tloha 59:11.672 --> 59:18.528 qalong, hobane ho 'na, mantsoe a tsa botona le botšehali le bongoana ha a tsamaellane. A ea hanyetsana." 59:18.528 --> 59:24.000 Mma wa Lower Saxony, ka lehlakoreng le leng, o ikwatlhalla ho se ka a ipelaetsa kgahlanong le yona hanghang. 59:24.000 --> 59:30.324 "Ha e le hantle, ke tenehile ke 'na ka lebaka la ho se buele hang-hang mokolokong oo oa batsoali le 59:30.324 --> 59:33.618 ho re: Che, ha ke batle seo bakeng sa ngoana oa ka!" 59:33.618 --> 59:38.335 Nka eletsa bohle hore ba shebisise haholo mokgwa wa tsamaiso wa setsi sa tlhokomelo ya bana seo ke romellang 59:38.335 --> 59:41.473 ngwanaka ho sona, ho netefatsa hore ba hlokomelwa hantle. 59:41.473 --> 59:48.465 Mme ha mohopolo o jwalo wa thuto e amanang le tsa thobalano o hlaha, ke eletsa bohle hore ba re Tjhe. 59:48.465 --> 59:52.523 Mme haeba ntlo ya tlhokomelo ya bana e sa emise sena, ka nnete nka o eletsa hore o isetse 59:52.523 --> 59:55.101 ngwana wa hao sebakeng se seng, o mo ntshe moo! 59:55.101 --> 59:59.615 Hobane ke dumela – mme ke bona sena ho mora wa ka kamora dilemo tse ngata – hore ha a lebala. 59:59.615 --> 01:00:06.939 Mme ha ke tsebe hore na o ka sotleha hakae ke phihlelo ena ea pele ea thobalano ha a fihla lilemong tsa botjha. 01:00:06.939 --> 01:00:08.518 Ha ke eso tsebe. 01:00:08.518 --> 01:00:15.029 "Haeba motho a nahana hore sena se etsahala khafetsa le ka tloaelo nakong ea bocha, joale o lokela hape ho khona ho paka 01:00:15.029 --> 01:00:19.966 hore na hobaneng, tlas'a likhakanyo tse itseng, e se e le morao haholo 'me mohlomong e bile 01:00:19.966 --> 01:00:22.981 e khothalletsa mekhoa e sa lokelang ea khōlo." 01:00:22.981 --> 01:00:26.200 Empa ha ho na bopaki ba seo. 01:00:26.200 --> 01:00:34.089 Joale ke hobaneng ha ke lokela ho theha litakatso tsa thobalano bongoaneng haeba bana ba 01:00:34.089 --> 01:00:39.220 sa li hloke bakeng sa khōlo e phetseng hantle? 01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:46.520 Kahoo haeba seo se le sieo, ha ho motho ya seng a paka hore bana ba tla hola ka tsela e sa tlwaelehang kapa e bonahalang haholo. 01:00:46.520 --> 01:00:58.040 Leha ho le jwalo, re bone keketseho ya ditlhaselo tsa thobalano haesale mekgwa e jwalo e atile, mme kgokahano ena e hlakile. 01:00:58.040 --> 01:01:02.357 Empa nka se paka se fapaneng le sena. 01:01:02.357 --> 01:01:09.172 "Qetello: Mehopolo ena e hlile e fana ka tataiso mabapi le hore na litlhaselo li ka etswa jwang le ho 01:01:09.172 --> 01:01:13.662 kgothalletsa thobalano ya nnete – ho tloha bonyaneng haholo." 01:01:13.662 --> 01:01:19.703 "Ho feta moo, ke boikarabello ba mantlha ba batsoali ho ruta bana ba bona ka litaba tsena le ho araba lipotso 01:01:19.703 --> 01:01:23.180 life kapa life tseo ba ka bang le tsona lilemong tseo." 01:01:23.180 --> 01:01:29.337 Ha se taba eo bana ba e shebanang le eona ho nahana ka tsa thobalano kamehla ntle le ha ba botsitsoe. 01:01:29.337 --> 01:01:32.205 "E, hape ho mabapi le hore batsoali ba lule ba falimehile haholo." 01:01:32.205 --> 01:01:35.781 Batsoali ba hlile ba hloka ho sala morao taba ena le ho bontšoa kamoo e sebetsang. 01:01:35.781 --> 01:01:40.940 "Mehopolo ena ea thuto ea thobalano bakeng sa litsi tsa tlhokomelo ea bana e tlameha ho hlakoloa." 01:01:40.940 --> 01:01:45.117 Seo ha se na sebaka ka phaposing ea masea. Bana ha ba hloke seo. 01:01:45.117 --> 01:01:51.264 Bana ba hloka ho theha maqhama, eseng thuto ea thobalano. Hona ke bohlanya! 01:01:51.264 --> 01:01:52.820 Le wena kenela. 01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:58.784 Arolelana filimi ena, tsebisa metswalle le ba lelapa la hao, aba disebediswa tsa tlhahisoleseding. 01:01:58.784 --> 01:02:02.000 Bontša ba bang se etsahalang. 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.540 Hobane ke tsela e fosahetseng eo sechaba sa rona se sa ka keng sa e tlohela kapele ka ho lekana. 01:02:07.540 --> 01:02:11.552 Mme qetellong, taba e dula ho rona, batswadi. 01:02:11.552 --> 01:02:16.604 Re mohala oa ho qetela khahlanong le ho etsoa ha bana ba rona lintho tsa thobalano le tlhaselo ea 'woke' ho: 01:02:16.604 --> 01:02:20.280 "Sebaka sa Tlōlo ea Molao: Setsi sa Tlhokomelo ea Bana" 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:25.088 (Tlhaselo ea woke ho bana ba rona) Morero oa filimi ke "Demo für alle" (Demo bakeng sa Bohle). 01:02:25.088 --> 01:02:30.440 Ha o ka rata ho tshehetsa mosebetsi wa rona, re ka leboha monehelo wa hao. 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:34.033 Mme o se lebale ho ingodisa kanale ya rona le lengolo la rona la ditaba.