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Ukuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi phakathi kwezingane
ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane sekuyanda.

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Lesi kwakuyisihloko esikhulu ku-Bild ngoDisemba 2024:
Ukuhlasela okubhalisiwe eNorth Rhine-Westphalia: Izibalo ezisha

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ezethusayo ngodlame ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane:

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Cishe izigameko eziyi-2 000 zokulimala komzimba
++ Ukuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi sekuphindeke kabili

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Iphephandaba i-NW Nachrichten libike ngomhlaka 13 Septhemba kulo
nyaka: udlame olukhulu kakhulu ezikhungweni

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zokunakekelwa kwezingane eNorth Rhine-Westphalia –
ukuhlaselwa ngokomzimba nokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi

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Kusukela ngo-2022, inani lamacala
abikiwe lenyuke kakhulu, liphindeke kabili.

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ENorth Rhine-Westphalia, izigameko zodlame
lobulili ezenziwa izingane sezisedlule kathathu cishe.

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Lezi izihloko ezimbili nje ezimelayo ezivela
esifundazweni sikazwelonke saseNyakatho Rhine-Westphalia.

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Lolu thuthuko oluyingozi akuyona ingozi:

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Kusukela ngo-Agasti 2024, zonke izikhungo
zokunakekela izingane ezincane ziphoqelekile ukuthi zethule

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umqondo obizwa ngokuthi "umqondo wokuvikela udlame".

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Izikhungo eziningi nazo zihlanganisa
imiqondo yemfundo ngocansi kulesi simo.

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Amagumbi okuhlola umzimba, izikhoneni
ezifudumele nezinye izinsiza ezifanayo azivamile.

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Imikhuba, ethengiswa njengezinzuzo zemfundo, ivela
ezindinganisweni ze-WHO zemfundo ngocansi eYurophu.

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Okuqukethwe kwalezi zindinganiso kuyaphazamisa kakhulu.

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Ezinganeni ezineminyaka engu-0 kuya kwengu-4, okulandelayo
kunconywa: "Ujabulo nesifiso sokuthinta umzimba wakho,

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ukuzithinta ngesikhathi sobuntwana" noma "izipiliyoni zokuzifisa,
ukusondelana ngokomzimba njengengxenye yempilo yomuntu".

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Okunye okuhlobene nalokhu ukuthola amakhono ocansi
ngokudlala imidlalo ebizwa ngokuthi "imidlalo kadokotela".

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Izingane ezineminyaka emine kuya
kweziyisithupha kufanele zikhulume ngezihloko zocansi!

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Lokhu kwaphinde kwaxoxwa lapha nalapha emithonjeni yezindaba
zomphakathi, kodwa ngaphandle kokudalula uhlelo olunobungozi

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kakhulu lokungenelwa kwabaphangi bezingane olwalusemva kwalokho.

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Isazi sezomphakathi saseFrance uThibault Kerlirzin ovela
enhlanganweni yokuvikela izingane iMamans Louves wahlola

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imithombo yezincomo zesayensi ezihambisana
nezindinganiso ze-WHO wathola ababhali abavela

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emaqenjini alobi abaxhasa ngokusobala i-paedophilia.

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Phakathi kwabo kukhona abantu abake bashicilela emagazini
yama-paedophile futhi abaqinile kakhulu kulezi zinhlangano.

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Incwajana yemfundo ethi "Die schleichende Pädophilisierung"
(Ukwenziwa kancane kwe-paedophilisation) eshicilelwe

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yinhlangano yokuvikela izingane i-Demo für alle ithi:

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Izingane ezibekwe ocansini
ziyindawo enothile kubaphangi bezingane.

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Nokho, ukwenza ucansi kuvela hhayi kuphela ezindaweni
ezimnyama ze-inthanethi, kodwa futhi ezindaweni ezibonakala

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zivikelekile ezifana nezikole nezikhungo zokunakekela izingane.

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"Tatort Kita" kuwumyalezo kubo bonke abazali, othisha, abasebenzi
behhovisi lezokunakekelwa kwezingane kanye nabo bonke

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abasebenza ohlelweni lobulungiswa ukuthi bayeke lobu
bungozi obuxhaswa nguhulumeni ekuphathweni kahle kwezingane.

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Ukuvikela izingane zethu: Sicela
wabelane ngalombhalo obalulekile!

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Siyabonga kakhulu ngaphezu kwakho
konke ku-Action Alliance i-DemoFürAlle!

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ithreila

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"Hhayi, igama elithi 'umqondo wemfundo
ngocansi' alizange likhulunywe ngalo."

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Lezi zindaba eziphazamisayo.

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"Lena: 'Ihhovisi Lezinsiza Zentsha LikaSifundazwe limisa isikhala
esihleliwe sokuhlola umzimba esikoleni sabantwana abancane'"

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Futhi inombolo iyaqhubeka ikhula.

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"Ngaleso sikhathi ngaqala ukuzibuza
ukuthi ngabe lo mbono wawumuhle ngempela."

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Kwenzekani ezindaweni zethu zokunakekela izingane?

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"Abantu bangabantu abanobulili kusukela ekuqaleni."

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"Imidlalo kadokotela iyingxenye yentuthuko evamile yobuntwana.
Noma bayajabulela ukuthintana noma umdlalo noma cha."

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Kule filimu, sizokukhombisa ukuthi kanjani
umkhuba onenkinga enkulu kwezemfundo ngocansi

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usuthole ukuthandwa ezinhlanganweni ezinethonya.

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"Nansi i-matrix edume kabi."

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"Uveze izinto okufanele bonke
abazali nabaholi bezepolitiki bazazi."

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Inhloso yabo: ubukhulu obusha bokwethulwa kwezingane ocansini.

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Kodwa lokho kwenza kanjani ezinganeni ezincane?

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"Khona-ke, kulezi zindawo ezithokomele, kwenzeka
izinto esasingeke sizicabange ngisho nasemaphusheni

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ethu amabi kakhulu, izinto izingane ezenzana zona."

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"Lokho sekuyisiphambeko."

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"Yebo!"

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"Empeleni, ngicasukile ngami ngokungakhulumi ngokushesha ngalobo
busuku babazali ngathi, 'Cha, angifuni lokho enganeni yami.'"

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Izindaba ezifanele ngempela abamangaleli
bomphakathi namahhovisi wezokunakekelwa kwentsha ziyoba

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yinto evamile ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane.

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Indawo yobugebengu: ikilabhu yezingane.
Ukuhlasela kwama-woke ezinganeni zethu.

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Kuyithrendi eseqhubekile iminyaka eminingi:
ukwenziwa kwezocansi emphakathini waseNtshonalanga.

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Kuyanda kakhulu, kushesha kakhulu, kuyaphikisa
kakhulu, futhi sekugxile kakhulu ezinganeni.

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Wayekulindeleke ngempela ukuthi anikeze
ukufundela izingane emtatsheni wezincwadi kamasipala

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waseBargteheide namuhla: "Drag Queen Veuve Noire".

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"Kodwa lokho, impela, kuyisibonakaliso esinye sokubaluleka
kwalolu hlobo lomsebenzi wemfundo esikwenzayo futhi."

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Ngoba kuphela lapho sisebenzisana ngokusebenzayo nezikhungo
zokunakekela izingane, izikole, namakolishi okufundela

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imisebenzi, singaphumelela ngempela ekufundiseni abantu.

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Ucwaningo? Ngani?

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"NgoJuni, ufuna ukubambisana no-drag king u-Eric Bigclit..."

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eMunich, izithombe ezifanayo, isihloko esifanayo:

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"... hlela ukufundwa kwabantwana
abaneminyaka emine nangaphezulu."

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Ukwanda kokuqalisa ucansi kusenesikhathi
akuyona into eyenzeka eJalimane kuphela.

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Torrevieja, eSpain: Izingane ezincane zidansa
zigqoke izingubo zabathengisa ucansi emgqeni wama-gay.

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I-Paedophilia emgwaqweni ovulekile.

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Ingabe izingane zifanele ngempela ukuba
emibhikishweni yokuzigqaja kwabantu abathandana nabesilisa?

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Kubonakala kunjalo eWrocław, ePoland.

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ELondon, iPraide Parade manje inendawo yayo yomndeni nezingane.

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Umhleli wezemfundo waseBrithani u-Twinkl udumisa uhlelo lombala
wenkanyezi ("amalungelo alinganayo kubo bonke") ngale ndlela.

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Futhi lokhu kwadala umsindo omkhulu e-USA:

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"Sizofika ezinganeni zenu," bekhotha ababekhona
emgubeni wokuzigqaja kwabathandanayo eNew York.

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Kwakuyiphutha lokungaqondi nje
kuphela, abaqalisi baqinisekisa wonke umuntu.

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Isiqubulo sasikhiwe emgomeni waso.

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Ngempela?

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eFrankfurt am Main, Julayi 2025:

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KuyiSuku likaChristopher Street, noma ngempela izinsuku.

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Lokho okuqale njengomgubho wokuzigqaja kwabantu abathandana
besilisa manje sekuyisenzakalo sezinsuku ezine ogwini loMfula

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iMain, futhi izingane nazo zamukelwa ngokukhethekile lapha.

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Okubizwa nge-CSD Mile kukhangisa indawo yayo yentsha nemindeni.

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Kuhle kakhulu ezinganeni ukuvumela ubuciko bazo
buhamba ngokukhululekile, ngokusho kwabahleli.

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Ekugcineni, indawo yezivakashi
zethu ezincane, babhala ku-Instagram.

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Ngakho-ke: ama-carousel nezindlu
zokugxuma eduze kwezitendi zefetishi.

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Ama-unicorn e-rainbow ahlangana nombono we-rainbow.

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Amagayisi agqoke izingubo zesikhumba eduze kwezingane
ezincane – sengathi kuwumqoka ngokuphelele emcimbini ogxile

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ekuhlotshisweni ngokocansi kwabantu abadala ngokuphelele.

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Akukho ukugxekwa, wonke umuntu uyabamba iqhaza.

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Kodwa nakuba abazali abambalwa kuphela abazithatha
ngokuzithandela izingane zabo lapha, kunezinye izindawo

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lapho bonke abazali kumele bathathe izingane zabo khona.

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Ezindaweni eziningi, ukwethulwa
kobulili sekuyinto evamile ezikoleni.

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Kodwa akupheleli lapho.

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Manje sekuyasungulwa nasezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane.

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Lokhu kuthinta kanjani izingane?

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Yiziphi izingozi ezibandakanyekayo
futhi kuthiwani ngezintshisekelo zabazali?

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Kule filimu, sichithe izinyanga sicwaninga,
sihlangana nochwepheshe, sihlaziya amanethiwekhi

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futhi sathola ulwazi olusemvelaphi olusabekayo.

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Lapha sinikeza umphumela.

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Izinto bonke abazali okufanele
bazazi – kanye nabo bonke abezepolitiki.

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"Lena yindaba ecacile ekhathaza abazali abaningi kakhulu:
ukuqalisa ngokocansi izingane zabo kusenesikhathi,

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manje ngisho nasezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane ezincane."

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"Yebo, lokho kuyihlanya ngokuphelele."

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Zonke izinhlobo zamaphephandaba ziyazibika ngakho.

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Nansi: Ihhovisi Lesifundazwe Lezokunakekelwa
Kwentsha limisa indawo ehleliwe yokuhlola umzimba enurseri.

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Lokho kwakuseHanover.

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Sinalokhu lapha eBraunschweig: ukudlala
udokotela esikoleni sabantwana abancane.

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Nansi: iNursery icubungula isikhala semidlalo yocansi.

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E-Kerpen: Ukuzidlalela ngocansi nemidlalo kadokotela.

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Ngakho yonke indawo, futhi ngisho nakuzinsana zamaKatolika.

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I-nursery yamaKatolika imisa imicimbi
ehlambalazayo ebandakanya ukudlala udokotela – eCologne.

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Futhi eSwitzerland nayo inakho: amagumbi okudlala udokotela
ajwayelekile ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane eSwitzerland.

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"Lokhu futhi kuyinto esikuhlangenwe nakho
ne-'Initiative Elternaktion' (Umbhiyozo Wokuzimela Kwabazali)."

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Sithola izincwadi eziningi kakhulu ezivela kubazali
abakhathazekile abaxhumana nathi besithi lolu

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hlobo lwemfundo ngocansi noma imiyalelo ngocansi
seludlulele ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane ezincane.

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Lokhu kusukela ekubonisweni kwezincwadi kuya
ekuhlaselweni okwenzeka phakathi kwabalingani noma izingane.

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Kukhona ezinye izinto eziza ekunaka
kwakho ezikhathaza kakhulu kakhulu.

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Le yindaba ekhathazayo.

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Konke lokhu kudala ukucindezeleka okukhulu futhi
kuyinto yomuntu siqu kakhulu kulabo abathintekayo , yingakho

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abantu abaningi bengafuni ukukhuluma ngakho ekhamera .

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UKerstin Kramer uhlele ukuhlangana
nabazali ababili abavumile ukwenza lokho.

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Ngokwesicelo sabo, ngeke siveze indawo
yokuhlala noma ubunikazi babo abathintekile.

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Konke esingakusho ukuthi uhambo lwethu lusiholela
edolobhaneni elincane endaweni ethile eBavaria.

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Futhi indaba iqala ngokujwayelekile ngengxoxo
phakathi kwabomama ababili esikoleni sabantwana.

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"Wangitshela ngamadodana akhe, ahleka ngenhliziyo yonke ekhaya
ngentombazane yethu, noma ngempela ngezinto ababezihlanganyele."

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Amadodana bathi indodakazi yethu ifake umunwe wayo
esithweni sayo sangemuva, abakwenza usuku lonke ekhaya.

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Kodwa indodakazi kamama okukhulunywa ngaye
ikhumbula lokhu ngendlela ehlukile kakhulu.

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"Ngakho ngambuza ngqo ngalokho. Kwakuyini?"

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Ingabe lokho uMama angitshele khona kuyiqiniso ngempela?

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Yebo, Mama, kuyiqiniso, kodwa akuzange
kube njalo njengalokhu akutshele wena.

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Bekungekho kanjalo nhlobo lapho abafana besusa ibhulukwe lami.

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Ngiyaxolisa, yini leyo?

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Wathi-ke laba bafana behudulele phansi ibhulukwe lakhe, kuthiwa
kaningi, hhayi kanye kuphela, futhi lokhu kwenzeka njalo.

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Yebo, baxhumane nathi, futhi ngangivele ngakhuluma naye ngocingo
ngaphambi kwalokho, wabe esho phakathi

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nengxoxo ukuthi indodakazi yakhe ihlaselwe
ngokocansi izikhathi eziningana amakhwenkwe amabili.

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Ngakho-ke sikhuluma ngabantwana lapha.

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Indawo yobugebengu: ikindergarten
yasendle egxile ekulondolozweni kwemvelo.

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Phakathi kwezinye izinto, kwakukhona ipayipi endaweni
evulekile lapho izingane ezingangena khona zikhothama.

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"Kukhona okukodwa ngaphandle emhlabathini,
ipayipi, umgodi, lapho ongazifihla khona."

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Okungabonakali ngaphandle.

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"Uma ungabheki ngqo kuyo."

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Lapha lapho ukuhlasela okubonakala kwenzeka khona.

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Yebo, kwathi kamuva kwavela ukuthi abafana
bamcindezela bamqhoqhoqha ukuthi akhiphe ibhulukwe lakhe phambi

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kwabo futhi bafaka izinto esithweni sakhe sangemuva.

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Kungenzeka ukuthi abafana nabo bafake iminwe yabo esinqeni sakhe.

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Njengoba ubudala bezingane, akukacaci ngempela ukuthi kwenzekeni.

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Kodwa kuyabonakala ukuthi okuthile
kwenzekile, futhi okuthile okukhulu.

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"Eqinisweni, indodakazi yethu
yayinokulimala endaweni yobulili ngaleso sikhathi."

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Futhi empeleni ngaya kudokotela wezingane
ngibuza: Kuyini? Ngingenza ukuthini? Kunjani?

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Wabheka kuyo, wayiqaphela, akakwazanga ukusho lutho.

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Futhi wathi uma ingane ingakhulumi ngalokhu,
angifanele ngiphinde ngibuze okwengeziwe, ukuze

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ngingakhulisi noma yiluphi uhlupho angase abe nalo.

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Nokho, okungaphezu kokumangalisayo ukuthi
inhlangano yaphendula kanjani kulesi sigameko.

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"Konke nje kuyindaba eyidalwe yindodakazi yami."

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Futhi uma benemibuzo mayelana nobulili, sizoyicacisa.

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Okunye okwangenza ngazibuza ukuthi, njengomama –
noma njengobaba – sifuna ukwenza lokho thina uqobo

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futhi asifuni ngempela ukukuthola enhlanganweni.

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Futhi ngamtshela ukuthi ngifisa ukubona umqondo wokuvikelwa.

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Yebo, yebo, sinayo eyodwa – sidinga futhi ukuba nayo.

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Kodwa akuzange kunginikezwe.

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Bebengafuni ukuthi ngibheke lapho ngaphakathi.

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Kwathi kamuva kwavela, ngemva kokuba umama ezame
ukukhuluma nabaphathi bendawo yokunakekela izingane.

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Futhi konke kudluliselwe enganeni.

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Ngokomgomo wokuthi konke kungumcabango nje.

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Kodwa kamuva kwavela ukuthi omunye umntwana
wayebhekene nendaba efanayo – nabafana abafanayo.

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"Futhi singajabula ukuthi sathola ngokushesha
okuthile, ngoba-ke sikwazile ukuphendula ngokushesha."

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Hhayi-ke, ngithi 'thina', kodwa
wawuphendula, yebo, wawulawula kahle.

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Sakwazi ukuthatha isinyathelo ngokushesha ukuvikela ingane yethu.

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Kulo lomunye umndeni, bathola ngokudideka kakhulu.

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Indodakazi manje ihambela enye ingadi yezingane.

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Noma ingabe ingane ithole ukushaqeka ngenxa yalezi
zenzakalo, kuzocaca kuphela esikhathini esizayo esikude.

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Okunye kuqinisekile: noma kunzima kangakanani ukubuyekeza
ngokuningiliziwe ukuthi ngempela kwenzekani

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kulezi "zigodi zokubamba" ezikhungweni
zokunakekela izingane, imiphumela ingaba mibi kakhulu.

13:40.140 --> 13:43.910
Futhi lokho ngaphandle kokudlala noma yiziphi
imidlalo kadokotela noma okuthile okufana nalokho.

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"Bekungekho negumbi lokuhlola ngokomqondo wangempela wegama."

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Izingane zazishiywe zodwa nje.

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Kodwa yilokho ngqo iphuzu.

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Lokhu yilokho ngqo okucacisiwe emiqondweni
yemfundo ngocansi ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane.

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Kwamukelwa ukuthi izingane zizozihlola
zingabhekwa, zithinte izitho zangasese zomunye

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nomunye, futhi zifake izinto ezimbobeni zomzimba wazo.

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Akekho oqaphelayo.

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Futhi izingane nazo seziseminyakeni lapho
zingakwaziyo ukukhuluma ngalokhu ngokusobala.

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"Ingabe lokho kuwukuhlangana ngokungahleliwe?"

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Ochwepheshe abanolwazi ngengqondo yezingane
nokuhlukunyezwa bathini ngempela ngalokhu?

14:19.320 --> 14:23.217
Sinomuntu othakazelisayo eNeubrandenburg. Bangabashadile.

14:23.217 --> 14:29.540
Bobabili bangochwepheshe bokwelapha ingqondo
yabantwana nabasha, ngakho ake sibone ukuthi bathini ngalokhu.

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Ngakho-ke sizohamba ohambweni
futhi. Kulokhu siya eNeubrandenburg.

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Anja noRoman Göbeke basamukela eklinikini yabo.

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Ngokuvamile, banakekela abaguli babo lapha.

14:46.840 --> 14:52.133
Abachwepheshe bokwelapha kwengqondo nabachwepheshe
bokwelapha ukuziphatha basiza izingane nabasha ukunqoba

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ukushaqeka noma izinkinga zokukhathazeka, isibonelo.

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"Ngakho-ke, ukwelashwa kokuziphatha kwenzeka lapha kulesi gumbi."

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Ngaphambi kwalokho, uRoman Göbeke wasebenza
ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane ezincane iminyaka eminingana.

15:05.320 --> 15:09.561
Ngokomsebenzi wakhe, umsebenzi wakhe
ubelokhu ugxile enhlalakahleni yezingane.

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"Abazali ngokwemvelo bayingxenye yalokhu."

15:11.730 --> 15:15.849
Lezi sezithathwe engqondweni kulesi
sicelo, futhi kunamahora abantu ababhekiswayo.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi sidinga indawo yezingane nabazali.

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Kodwa abancane kunabo bonke bagxilwe lapha.

15:21.200 --> 15:24.288
Lokhu futhi kusebenza endaweni yomsebenzi ka-Anja Göbeke.

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"Ngakho-ke, leli yigumbi
le-psychology ejulile nokwelashwa ngokudlala."

15:30.280 --> 15:37.024
Leli gumbi likhulu kancane kunelomunye
ngoba ngidinga amathoyizi anele lapha futhi.

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Ngamafuphi: nobabili niyazi izingane nomqondo wazo.

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Baphinde bavamise ukwelapha izisulu zokuhlukunyezwa.

15:43.329 --> 15:50.060
Sifuna ukwazi ukuthi u-Anja no-Roman Göbeke bacabangani
ngomkhuba wokwethulwa kwezocansi kusenesikhathi kakhulu.

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"Ngicabanga ukuthi ucansi kufanele luhlanganiswe
nokuzwela kwabantu abadala nobudlelwano obuvuthiwe."

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Ngakho-ke lokhu akuyona into engabukwa
yodwa, kodwa kufanele ngempela ihlanganyelwe.

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Futhi kufanele kube njalo ukuthi izingane
sezivele ziqedile ukuzazisa ubulili bazo.

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Yebo, kahle, lokho bekungaba ngesikhathi
sokuvuthwa ngokocansi, okungenani ekuqaleni.

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Ngakho-ke usazama kakhulu ukuthola ubunikazi
bakho, kuhlanganise nobunikazi bakho bobulili.

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Futhi lokho kufanele kuqedwe ngaphambi kokuba
noma yiziphi izenzo zocansi zenzeke ngempela.

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Noma yini enye kungaba kusenesikhathi,
ngoba izingane zizodlula amandla ngakho.

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Futhi ngoba ubulili buzoba yinto
ehlukanisiwe kulesi simo futhi obungakahlanganiswa.

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"Yebo, ngihlale ngibona izingane ngale ndlela futhi ngabona
ukuthi sezithakasele ukuthi kunabantu ababili abahlukene."

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Kodwa lokho kunqunyelwe ekuqaphelweni nasekubonweni: kukhona
abantu ababukeka behlukile futhi abangowesini ehlukile kunami.

16:59.280 --> 17:04.575
Futhi lokho cishe kuchaza ububanzi bokulangazelela komntwana.

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"Ucabanga ukuthi izingane ziqala nini ukuzwa ihlazo?"

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Kwenzekani uma kuphazanyiswa, kuhlaziswa noma kuncishiswa?

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"Hhayi-ke, okokuqala, ngiyabona ukuziphatha
okucacile kakhulu ezinganeni lapho ziya endlini yangasese."

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Izingane zivame ukufuna ukuthi indlu yangasese ibe nokhiye.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi banomuzwa wemvelo wokuzikhipha kule ndawo.

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Ngakho-ke sengiyabona ukuthi ngalowo mkhuba – iminyaka yokungena
esikoleni sabantwana ivamise ukuqala eneminyaka emithathu – umuzwa

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wokuzizwa uhlazekile kanye nesidingo sokubeka imingcele, nokubona
imingcele yomzimba njengephephile, kubonakala ngokusobala.

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"Kuyiqiniso futhi ukuthi uma ingane
isithuthukise ukubambana okuhle, ingahlukanisa

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phakathi kwabantu engabazi nabantu eyaziyo."

17:55.349 --> 17:57.687
Lokho kuyisibonakaliso sobudlelwano obuhle.

17:57.687 --> 18:02.800
Futhi-ke izingane nazo ziba nezinhloni lapho zisondelene
nabantu abangazi lapho sezineminyaka eyisishiyagalombili.

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Lokho kuyisibonakaliso esihle, ngoba kukhombisa ukuthi
ingahlukanisa phakathi kwabantu ongabazi nabantu abajwayelekile.

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Futhi, vele, uma umntwana esekwazi
ukuhlukanisa abantu angabazi nabantu abamazi,

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kungenzeka angafuni ukuthintwa ngabantu angabazi.

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Ifuna ukugcina ibanga elithile futhi
ngokuqinisekile ayifuni ukuthintwa ezindaweni zayo ezingasese.

18:24.300 --> 18:31.900
Yebo, lokho yinto ingane evamise
ukuyinqaba uma ikhule kahle empilweni.

18:31.900 --> 18:39.380
Futhi izinkinga zokuxhumana, isibonelo, zichazwa
ngokunembile ngokuthi izingane azikwazi ukwenza lokhu.

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Ngakho-ke abakwazi ukuhlukanisa abantu
abangazi nabantu abajwayelekile, futhi baziphatha

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cishe ngendlela yokungabi nokuzwela ibanga.

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"Futhi xhumana nanoma ubani ofuna."

18:52.606 --> 18:58.779
"Ukuxhumana noma ngisho nokuhambisana nanoma ubani futhi
mhlawumbe ungakhombisi lokhu kwesaba, kodwa

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yilokho ngqo okubonisa ukuthuthukiswa
okwehlulekile nokuthi akukakhiwa ubuhlobo obunempilo."

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"Lokhu, ngempela, kuphikisana ngokuphelele nalokho
okuthiwa njalo kule mibono yokuziphatha ngokocansi."

19:12.440 --> 19:16.760
Kuhlale kugxilwe kangaka kulokho okubizwa ngokuthi imfundo.

19:16.760 --> 19:19.600
Kodwa akukaze kushiwo ukuzibophezela.

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"Kuyafaneleka futhi ukuthi kuhlale
kungochwepheshe abafanayo abathole ithuba lokukhuluma."

19:23.701 --> 19:29.291
Laba bahlanganisa u-Uwe Sielert, u-Jörg Maiwald
no-Stefan Timmermanns, isibonelo. Abanye abavami ukuzwakala.

19:29.291 --> 19:31.500
"Kukhona amazwi amaningi angaphandle lapho."

19:31.500 --> 19:39.520
Isibonelo, uProfesa Christian Schubert, ongudokotela
kanye nesazi sengqondo eSibhedlela SeNyuvesi e-Innsbruck.

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"Indawo yethu elandelayo: e-Innsbruck e-Austria."

19:43.320 --> 19:49.846
Lapha sihlangana nososayensi, uprofesa wasenyuvesi kanye
nosazi ngengqondo ophinde abhekwe njengomgxeki wezici ezahlukene

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zokwelapha kwanamuhla azibona njengentuthuko engafuneki.

19:53.847 --> 19:57.968
Ukubuka umzimba, ingqondo nomoya
ngokubanzi kuyisisekelo sempikiswano yakhe,

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ayikhuthaza nalo kule ncwadi engu-non-fiction.

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Okokuqala, sifuna ukwazi: ngabe wayecabanga ukuthi le
ntuthuko, esivele ibonakala ezikhungweni zokunakekela

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izingane, yayingaba nokwenzeka ekuqaleni komsebenzi wakhe?

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"Yebo, kodwa ubungacabanga ukuthi sizobe sesikhuluma ngemikhoneni
efudumele namakamelo okuzihlola ezingceleni zezingane?]

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Ngakho-ke, izingane kufanele
zithole kanjani isifiso sazo socansi?

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"Cha, impela cha!"

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Okungenani, akufanele bathole isifiso sabo
socansi; lokho kukude kakhulu nalokho engingakucabanga.

20:28.880 --> 20:33.284
"Ngine lapha isitatimende esivela kuProfesa Jörg Maiwald,
ongumprofesa onhlonipho wezamalungelo

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ezingane nokuvikelwa kwezingane, futhi ubhala
ephephandabeni i-'Kindheit' (Ubuntwana)":

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Umqondo wokuthi izingane zingakhula zingakhathazeki
ngemizwa, imicabango nezenzo zocansi uyiphupho elikude

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kakhulu neqiniso, awuziphathi ngobulungisa futhi ungazilimaza.

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"Yebo, nginombono ocacile ngalokhu."

20:53.512 --> 20:59.604
Ngicabanga, ngisho — ngithonywa yi-psychoanalysis, kufanele
kushiwo — ngakho-ke nginguchwepheshe wezokwelapha kwengqondo

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ogxile kumandla angaphakathi, futhi nginguchwepheshe wezokwelapha
kwengqondo kwezokwelapha — ovele evulekile,

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impela, ekucabangeni kwe-psychoanalysis mayelana
nentuthuko yengqondo nokuziphatha ngokocansi kwengane.

21:10.494 --> 21:14.842
Impela kukhona okuthile
okwenzekayo lapho, akukho mibuzo ngalokho.

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Kodwa kimi, ezinye izici zibaluleke
kakhulu uma kuziwa ekuthuthukisweni komntwana.

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Futhi lokhu kuhlobene nokubopha, ukubopha
okuqinile, ikhaya elinempilo, elinobubele neliphephile.

21:28.657 --> 21:35.618
Lokho kubaluleke kakhulu, kuyisisekelo
umntwana akudingayo, umuntu wonke akudingayo, futhi

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yilokho engikulindele ekuthuthukeni okunempilo.

21:39.058 --> 21:45.700
Ngiyagxeka ngokusobala lo mkhankaso
wokwenza izinto zibe ngokocansi oqhutshwayo.

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Lapho kucatshangwa ukuthi amandla ocansi akhona
ezinganeni – ngisho nasekuqaleni nje emva kokuzalwa.

21:52.752 --> 22:00.052
Futhi uqinisekisa kusenesikhathi kakhulu ukuthi
leli gunya lobulili likhula ngendlela efanele.

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"Amandla ocansi ngomunye walezo zindaba
eziyisisekelo eziye zaxoxwa ngazo iminyaka eminingi

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njengengxenye yalo hlelo lokwenza ucansi lube yinto evamile."

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"Yebo, kulungile, nami ngakubona lokho,
isibonelo ku-Uwe Sielert, 'ingcweti yemfundo ngocansi'."

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Esingenisweni sakhe seMfundo Ngokocansi,
useke wabhekisa i-libido njengamandla okuphila

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enza umuntu aqine ekumelaneni nokudumazeka.

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Noma enkulumweni eyayinikezwa nguStefan Timmermanns ngo-2013.

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Uphinde akhulume ngamandla empilo
yocansi, anakho izingane kakade.

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"Abantu bangabantu abanobulili kusukela ekuqaleni."

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Imfundo ngocansi inomthelela omuhle
ezinganeni, ngoba ubulili buyamandla okuphila.

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"UDkt. Stefan Timmermanns, omunye wabamele
abaziwayo kakhulu kulesi sigaba semfundo ngocansi."

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Inkulumo yakhe eyayinikezwa eminyakeni engaphezu kweyishumi
edlule ibonakala njengomhlahlandlela walokho okwamanje okungena

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ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane ezisakhula eziningi kakhulu.

22:56.167 --> 23:03.830
Kulesi sipaneli sombhalo, uTimmermans wabala izizathu
zokuthi yini ayibiza ngokuthi imfundo evumelana nocansi.

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Isibonelo: Ukuthola imingcele yakho
siqu njengesisekelo sokuhlonipha abanye.

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Kodwa ingabe lokho akusho ukuthi kufanele
ngenhloso udlule kule mibandela ukuze uzithole?

23:15.963 --> 23:17.680
Lalela futhi umangale!

23:17.680 --> 23:23.060
Ukuzihlola bona nabanye kuyizipiliyoni ezibalulekile
zokufunda ezinganeni, futhi izingane zanamuhla zivame

23:23.060 --> 23:26.294
kakhulu ukuba nalezi zipiliyoni enurseri kunasekhaya.

23:26.294 --> 23:34.275
Ngokwezibalo, ekhaya kunezingane ezingane ezingafika kwenye
kuphela, futhi ngempela lokhu kuwukulinganisela noma ukuhlola

23:34.275 --> 23:39.881
imingcele, ukwamukela imingcele — angifuni
ukuthintwa lapho, angikuthandi lokho, noma

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ngikuthanda lokho, ngicabanga ukuthi kuhle.

23:43.140 --> 23:46.977
Bangakufunda lokhu kangcono eqenjini elikhulu
lezingane kunokuba babe nomfowabo oyedwa kuphela

23:46.977 --> 23:49.737
ekhaya, futhi ngaso sonke isikhathi kube lowo munye.

23:49.737 --> 23:54.939
Ngamafuphi, ngoba abazali bengavumeli izingane zabo
ukuthi zihlolisise imingcele yokuzithoba yezingane zabo, lokhu

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kufanele kwenzeke ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane.

23:58.656 --> 24:03.648
Konke ukukhuthaza amandla ocansi okucatshangwayo.

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Uma ukuthuthukiswa kocansi kwengane kusekelwa futhi
kukhuthazwa, lokhu kuyasiza ekuthuthukisweni kwabo

24:10.377 --> 24:14.720
siqu, isibonelo ekwakhiweni kobunikazi babo bobulili.

24:14.720 --> 24:19.136
Kodwa ngabe lokho kuyadingeka ngempela
ekuthuthukisweni kwezingane ezisencane?

24:19.136 --> 24:23.333
Hhayi-ke, angiboni sidingo salokho ngokomqondo oqinile.

24:23.333 --> 24:30.896
Ngakho-ke, kimi, kuyinto ephikisanayo ngokuyisisekelo
ukuheha ukunaka kwezingane endaweni yezitho zangasese.

24:30.896 --> 24:37.205
Ngoba manje banezindlela eziningi zokuzwa injabulo.
Futhi kungani ngifanele ngikwenze kube nokuvusa inkanuko?

24:37.205 --> 24:42.518
Ngakho-ke lokho akunangqondo kuleso sigaba
sokuthuthukiswa, ngoba nakho akukhiqizi.

24:42.518 --> 24:45.553
Yebo, ngiyithole, kodwa anginayo inguqulo yayo ye-neurobiology.

24:45.553 --> 24:51.347
Anginayo intuthuko yamahormone noma
yohlelo lwe-endocrine ehambelana nalokhu.

24:51.347 --> 24:56.230
Ngakho-ke anginayo indlela yangaphakathi
yengqondo engangiyisebenzisa

24:56.230 --> 25:00.518
ukuhlanganisa ucansi ngenhloso yokuthola injabulo.

25:00.518 --> 25:07.820
Ngakho-ke kuyavakala ukuthi lokhu ukwenziwa kube nezinto
zocansi kubeka izimfuno ezigcwele kakhulu engqondweni yomntwana.

25:07.820 --> 25:10.129
Angicabangi ukuthi kuyadingeka ekuthuthukisweni.

25:10.129 --> 25:18.060
Ngisho, uma ubheka i-psychoanalysis, umntwana, ingane,
noma umntwana omncane ekuqaleni usezigabeni zokudla ngomlomo.

25:18.060 --> 25:21.193
Bese engena, ingane ingena esigabeni sango-anal.

25:21.193 --> 25:26.039
Kuyindaba yokuqeqeshwa kokusebenzisa indlu yangasese
nokunye, isigaba sokuphikisa nokunye, kungena kuleso sigaba.

25:26.039 --> 25:30.116
Futhi isigaba sezitho zangasese sifika
ekugcineni kakhulu, ebantwini abasakhulayo.

25:30.116 --> 25:32.866
Futhi phakathi nendawo kusekho isigaba sokulibala.

25:32.866 --> 25:36.652
Futhi wonke umuntu uyakujwayela lokhu: ngesikhathi
sokubambezeleka, amantombazane namakhwenkwe ahlala

25:36.652 --> 25:38.813
ebizwa ngokuthi "nina bafana" kanye "nina zentombazane".

25:38.813 --> 25:43.478
Abanaso nhlobo isifiso sokuthintana ngokocansi kulolu
banga lobudala, ngempela kunjalo okuphambene nalokho.

25:43.478 --> 25:45.441
Baphika ngokuqinile lokho.

25:45.441 --> 25:49.266
Amantombazane athanda ukuba phakathi
kwamantombazane, namakhwenkwe phakathi kwamakhwenkwe, yebo.

25:49.266 --> 25:52.750
Yebo, ngikholelwa ukuthi kukhona into
ebizwa ngokuthi ukuthuthuka kwemvelo kubantu.

25:52.750 --> 26:01.547
Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi kungenzeka ngempela
ukuthi kukhona uhlobo lobulili olukude kakhulu

26:01.547 --> 26:06.088
nendlela esibuka ngayo ubulili njengabantu abadala.

26:06.088 --> 26:16.480
Ngakho-ke, kusho ukuthi ngizoba nokugxeka kakhulu abantu
abadala abazithathela umthwalo wokwahlulela ubulili bezingane.

26:16.480 --> 26:18.139
Lapho kuqala kimi.

26:18.139 --> 26:20.416
Kodwa yilokho ngempela okwenzekayo.

26:20.416 --> 26:25.950
Umphakathi wabantu abadala osesethandwa kakhulu ngokocansi
udlulisa umbono wawo ekuziphatheni kwezingane ezincane.

26:25.950 --> 26:28.806
Lokhu kwakunjalo futhi kuTimmermans enkulumweni yakhe yango-2013:

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Ngoba ubulili buyamandla okuphila,
amandla okuphila, amandla okuphila.

26:32.590 --> 26:35.400
Ngaleso sikhathi indaba yethu yaqala.

26:35.400 --> 26:40.356
Kusukela ngo-2014 kuqhubeke, sahamba ezitaladini
siziveze ukungavumelani namacebo emfundo angenisa

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ukuhlanjululwa ngokocansi, ikakhulukazi ezikoleni.

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Ngo-2016, i-Junge Freiheit yenza ingxoxo nochwepheshe bezocansi
uJakob Pastöter, owayenguMongameli ngaleso sikhathi futhi

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okwamanje uMongameli weNhlangano
YaseJalimane Yocwaningo Lwezesayensi Yomphakathi

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Ngokocansi, eceleni kwesimpoziyam yethu eStuttgart.

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Ngisho nangaleso sikhathi, wakhala:

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, kuyiqiniso ukuthi i-DGSS
isiphikisile okuqukethwe kwalokho engikubiza ngokuthi

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"imfundo ngocansi exhaswa nguhulumeni" cishe iminyaka engu-15.

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Lokhu kuhlobene neqiniso lokuthi cishe iminyaka engu-15,
mhlawumbe nangaphezulu, sekucacile ukuthi labo ababambe iqhaza

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emfundweni yezocansi, abathola uxhaso lukahulumeni ngakolunye
uhlangothi kodwa ngakolunye uhlangothi imibhalo

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yabo isatshalaliswa nguhulumeni, banombono
ohlangothini olulodwa kuphela ngemfundo yezocansi.

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Umphumela ubukeka kanje, isibonelo:

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"Sina noTim badlala udokotela", eshicilelwe
yiZartbitter e.V., exhaswe yiDolobha

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laseCologne kanye noMbuso weNyakatho Rhine-Westphalia.

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Enye yezinhlangano eziningi ezikhuthaza ukwenza
izingane zibe ngokocansi ezikoleni zabantwana abancane.

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Ngithanda kakhulu ukudlala udokotela.

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Hawu cha.

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Dokotela, hhayi-ke, Tim, ungaba umama futhi ube nengane.

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O, kulungile, mh, bese uDokotela.

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Imidlalo kadokotela iyingxenye yentuthuko ejwayelekile yezingane.

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Ngentshisekelo efanele iminyaka yabo
nokungakhethi, ngisho amantombazane namakhwenkwe

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abancane kakhulu bahlola izitho zabo zangasese.

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Bajabulela ukuthinta nokuhlikihla umzimba wabo
nokushintshana ukuthintana okuthambile nabanye izingane.

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Thatha izinga lakho lokushisa komzimba.

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Ukudlala udokotela kuyingxenye yentuthuko evamile yobuntwana.

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Noma bayajabulela ukuthintwa noma umdlalo noma cha.

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Ukuzihlola komunye nomunye, ukuthokozela ukuba
ngaphandle kwezingubo, isifiso sokubuka nokubukwa abanye.

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Kodwa futhi ukuzidlalela kwengane,
okubangela ukungabaza okuningi kubantu abadala.

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Kumayelana nothando nemizwa, ukuthinta ngobumnene
nokuncamela, abangane besifazane, ukudlala udokotela,

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nokuthi singabanxenxa kanjani imindeni ekhathazekile.

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Futhi akusikho konke lokho.

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Umkhondo walolu hlelo usiholela kude
nakakhulu, ezingeni eliphezulu kakhulu.

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Lokho yilokho ngqo okushiwo
ezindinganisweni ze-WHO zemfundo ngocansi eYurophu.

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Yebo, kunale matrix edume kabi, futhi kubantwana
abaneminyaka engu-0 kuya kwengu-4, ngaphansi kwesihloko esithi

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ulwazi, injabulo nesifiso, kuthiwa bathinte umzimba wabo.

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Ukuzidlalela ngaphambi kweminyaka yokuqala
yokukhula noma okuhlangenwe nakho okujabulisayo

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kobudlelwano bomzimba njengengxenye yempilo yomuntu.

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Ngokwezakhono, lokhu kusho ukuveza izidingo zakho, izifiso
zakho nemingcele yakho, isibonelo emdlalweni kadokotela.

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Futhi izingane ezineminyaka emine kuya
kweziyisithupha zivunyelwa ukubhekana nezihloko zocansi.

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Kufanele baxoxe ngezihloko zocansi.

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Lena ingqikithi yezombusazwe yokuhlasela kokwenza ucansi,
eshicilelwe yi-WHO ngokubambisana okusondele neSikhungo

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Sombuso Sokufundisa Ngezempilo, noma i-BZgA ngokufingqiwe.

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Izinhlangano ezingase zibonakale zithembekile kubantu
abaningi, kodwa leli matrix lobudala alibonakali lithembekile.

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Njengochwepheshe wezokwelapha, ngingasho ngokusobala ukuthi
nginokungabaza ngezinhlelo zokuxilonga ezisetshenziswa

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ngokungahleliwe ngaphandle kokubheka ngokucophelela, ngokuhlelwa
kwezinto ngokwesikimu, ngamathuluzi wokulingisa, nangemithetho.

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Njengokuthi wonke umuntu efana.

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Kanjengokuthi bekukhona amaphethini athile,
izakhiwo zeminyaka. Ukhulume ngeMatrix, evela ku-WHO.

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Ngakho-ke lapho amaqembu athile eminyaka abhekwa khona, ngokuthi.

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Kusukela lapho, kuhle ukwenza lokho.

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Cha, lesi sidalwa sihlukile kakhulu, siyinkimbinkimbi kakhulu,
siphila esimweni esithile kakhulu somqondo nomphakathi, futhi

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ngokuhambisana nokuthuthuka kwaso kwemvelo,
ngezinye izikhathi, uma umuntu esibuka futhi

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enaka ngokuzwela okwanele, sizobuza imibuzo.

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Futhi ngizolinda isikhathi eside kangako nomntwana wami,
futhi ngeke ngiphuthume ngalutho futhi ngimqhoqhoqhele.

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Kodwa yilokho ngempela okwenzekayo lapha.

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Ukufakwa kwesifanekiso esingabazekayo kakhulu, ,
ngaphandle kobufakazi besayensi, kulo lonke izwekazi.

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Futhi lokhu akusebenzi eJalimane kuphela,
kodwa nakuzo zonke izingxenye zaseYurophu.

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eFrance, kunenhlangano ebizwa ngokuthi "Mamans Louves"
(Oomama Amabhubesi) eyake yabheka izindinganiso ze-WHO

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futhi yaqasha ucwaningo oluveze imiphumela emangalisayo.

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Umakhelwane wethu iFrance naye uyajwayela inkinga
yokuqala kwezocansi kusenesikhathi ngokwengeziwe.

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Nalapho futhi, eqhutshwa ngamandla athuthuka phambili.

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URegine Schäfer ulungiselele ingxoxo yevidiyo noChristelle
Comet, ongowenhlangano "Mamans Louves", okusho "Oomama Bezimvu".

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Ucwaningile ngokujulile izindinganiso ze-WHO zaseYurophu.

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Njengoba sibone iziphambeko ezibonakala ezingeni likazwelonke,
besifuna ukwazi ukuthi yiliphi ibhalwe lesayensi elithi

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liyisisekelo salokho okuzokwethulwa ezikoleni zethu kuzwelonke.

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Umphumela wukucwaninga kwamakhasi
angamashumi ayisithupha okushicilelwe ngo-2024.

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Uveze izinto okufanele abazali bonke nabaholi bezepolitiki bonke
bazazi, okungenani labo ababeka inhlalakahle yezingane phambili.

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Futhi yilokho okubalulekile kithi: ukuhlonipha inhlalakahle
yengane nelungelo lobuzali lokukhulisa izingane zabo.

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Thibault Kerlirzin, umbhali wocwaningo,
uchaza ngokunembile ukuthi lokhu kusho ukuthini.

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Kwavela ukuthi izindinganiso ze-WHO zakhiwe
yiqembu lochwepheshe ababengakhethi ngokulingana.

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Lokhu kungenxa yokuthi cishe bonke laba
nochwepheshe bahlanganyela ezakhiweni ezihlangene

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ne-Plant Parenthood Federation yamazwe ngamazwe.

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Ngakho-ke babonakala bengabalwela
izinguquko kunokuba bangososayensi.

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Futhi lokho kuvusa umbuzo wokuthi kungani.

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Ubani onentshisekelo kule ntuthuko?

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uThibault wathola ingxenye ekhathazayo
yempendulo ebhukwini lezincwadi le-WHO Standards.

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Ibibiliyografi inezihlomelo eziningana, futhi sengithole abameli
abathathu bobugebengu bokuhlukumeza izingane esihlomelweni A.

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Nokho, ingqikithi futhi ngasikhathi sinye iphuzu elibuthakathaka
lombhalo kungenziwa itholakale ezincwadini zesayensi eziphathelene

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nokuthuthukiswa kwengqondo nokuziphatha ngokocansi kwezingane.

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Phakathi kwezinkomba ezingaba ngu-50, ngithole eziyi-15
ezingahlukaniswa njengabameli noma abaxhasi

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bemfundo yocansi kusenesikhathi noma ngisho
nobugebengu bokuhlukumeza izingane ngokocansi.

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Uzobona ukuthi lokhu kufaka abantu ababeyingxenye yamaqembu
alwela izintshisekelo asekela ngokusobala i-paedophilia.

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Babiza lokhu ngokuthi ubudlelwano phakathi kwezizukulwane.

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Phakathi kwabo kukhona abantu abake bashicilela
emagazini avulekile okubandakanya ubulili nezingane.

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Izixhumanisi ziboniswa
kule-animation kuwebhusayithi yeMamans Louves.

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Ngale njongo, uThibault wahlukanisa
ochwepheshe be-WHO babe amaqembu amathathu:

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Luhlaza kusho ukuthi akunobungozi, ophuzi kusho ukuthi
kuyathandabuzeka, obomvu kusho iziyindilinga ezisekela ngokusobala

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ukuthintana ngokocansi kwabantwana kusenesikhathi kakhulu
noma ngisho nobugebengu bokuhlukumeza ngokocansi izingane.

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Isixhumanisi saseJalimane emijikelezweni
yabaphangi bezingane — Gunter Schmidt.

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Isibonelo, wasebenzisana nomuntu othile uVolkmar Sigusch.

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Futhi uSigusch wayebanga ukuthi ucansi lobuntwana
akuyona nje imithombo yokujabulela, kodwa futhi kuyisidingo.

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Wasebenza ejenali i-Archives of Sexual Behaviour,
esakhona nanamuhla futhi eyasungulwa nguRichard Green.

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URichard Green wayengumsekeli
we-paedophilia futhi wayengumngane kaThomas O'Carroll.

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Yena, ngokulandelana, wayengumsunguli nomongameli
wenhlangano ebizwa nge-Paedophile Information Exchange —

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ipulatifomu yokushintshisana ngolwazi kwabaphangi bezingane.

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Leli qembu laliphikisanwa kakhulu futhi
lalifuna ukuvunywa ngokomthetho kokuthintana

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ngokocansi phakathi kwabantu abadala nezingane.

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Abaphilofayili bangena kanjani kwesobunxele futhi bathathe
umzabalazo wamalungelo abantu, kubike i-Guardian

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yaseBrithani ngo-2014 mayelana nemisebenzi
ye-Paedophile Information Exchange ngeminyaka yama-1970.

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Ngisho naphakathi kwesokunxele saseJalimane,
ikakhulukazi emzabalazweni ka-1968, kwakukhona imizamo

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ngaleso sikhathi yokwenza i-paedophilia ibe semthethweni.

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Izibonelo ezidumile: umpolitiki weGreen Party uDaniel
Cohn-Bendit, iqembu lomsebenzi likazwelonke leGreen Party

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elibizwa ngokuthi "AmaGays, Abaphederasti kanye Nabantu
Abashintshe Isimo Sabo Sokuzalwa" noma ucwaningo neqembu

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lomsebenzi laseJalimane elibizwa ngokuthi
"Paedophilia", elalibhodi labaqondisi

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elifushane elalihlanganisa uHelmut Kentler.

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Yena, ngokulandelana, ubhekwa njengoyise
umsunguli waleli gatsha lezemfundo ngocansi.

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Saxoxa ngokuningiliziwe ngezinto zakhe zokuhlukumeza
izingane ocwaningweni lwethu olubizwa ngokuthi "KentlerGate".

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UKentler walandelwa kuleli lizwe ngu-Uwe
Sielert, Volker Siegusch no-Gunter Schmidt.

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Esandulweni sakhe sencwadi ethi Male Intergenerational Intimacy
ekuqaleni kweminyaka yama-1990, isibonelo, uLetzter wabhala:

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Kukhona ubudlelwano obuphumelelayo
bama-paedophile obusiza futhi obukhuthaza ingane.

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Uqhubeke wathi: "Isongo sokwenza zonke izenzo zobulili nezingane
zibe ngaphansi komthetho wokujeziswa

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asilungile futhi kufanele sisuswe, ngoba sihlanganisa
ukucwasa nokuhlukunyezwa kwesigaba esincane."

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U-Ernst Bornemann waziveza ngokucacile
encwadini yakhe ethi Das Geschlechtsleben des

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Kindes (Impilo Yocansi Yezingane), lapho athi:

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Izenzo zocansi zomntwana ezingahileli udlame
azihlali ziba nemiphumela emibi kumntwana.

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Uphinde avele ezindinganisweni ze-WHO
njengereferensi, okungukuthi nencwadi yakhe:

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Ubuso Bokuvuthwa Bobusha, lapho abhekane khona nobulili obekuthiwa
bubukhona ezinganeni ezineminyaka eyisishiyagalombili.

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Umyalezo oyinhloko wencwadi wukuthi abantu bangabantu
abanezifiso zocansi kusukela ngesikhathi sokubeletha.

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Lokhu kuziveza ezinganeni ngezindlela eziningi —
emidlalweni yazo, emcabangelweni wazo ocebile, ekudingeni

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kwazo ukuthintana nasekuzidlaleleni kwazo ngokocansi.

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Lokhu ngempela sekuyisisekelo sezinkonsepthi
eziningi kakhulu zezindlu zokugcina

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izingane ezisakhulayo ngokusebenzisa i-BZGA ne-WHO.

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Ernst Bornemann no Gunter Schmidt — izibonelo ezimbili kwezinye
eziningi ezikhombisa ukuthi izindinganiso ze-WHO azisekelwanga

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kuphela embonweni wochwepheshe ohlangothini
olulodwa, kodwa kwesinye isikhathi zinemvelaphi

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ejulile emijikelezweni yabaphangi bezingane.

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Futhi lokho kucatshangwa ukuthi
kuyisisekelo sokukhulisa izingane zethu?

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Yebo, kahle, lezi zindaba zama-paedophile
azisimangazi nhlobo, ngoba umkhokho walolu hlelo lonke

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lwezemfundo ngocansi olukhuthazwayo kwakunguHelmut Kentler.

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Futhi uHelmut Kentler wayengumkhankaseli
we-paedophilia futhi empeleni wayengumhlukunyezayo.

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Kamva wahlulelwa icala lokuhlukunyezwa
kwezingane, kanti umfundi wakhe kwakungu-Uwe Silert.

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Futhi u-Uwe Silert, ngokulandelana, udlale indima
ebalulekile ekubumbeni izindinganiso ze-WHO

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zemfundo ngocansi eYurophu ngomsebenzi wakhe e-BZGA.

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Ngempela, futhi lezi ngokulandelana zithinta ngqo
izinhlelo zemfundo zezifundazwe ngazinye lapha eJalimane.

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Cishe zonke izifundazwe zikahulumeni kazwelonke, ngaphandle
kweBremen, zinehlelo elibizwa ngokuthi "uhlelo lemfundo" — uhlelo

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lokuqondisa oluchaza ngqo ukuthi imfundo
ngocansi kufanele iqhutshwe kanjani ezikhungweni

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zokunakekela izingane nokuthi kufanele ifake ini.

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Futhi uhlelo lwezemfundo lwaseBerlin luqukethe ngqo lezi
zinto, esizithola emiqondweni yemfundo ngocansi, okungukuthi:

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Emva kwesikhashana, izingane zithola izitho
zazo zobulili futhi zizihlola ngokujulile.

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"Inkuthazo yokwazi ngobulili iyisici esibalulekile
sokukhula okuhle kwengqondo nomzimba,

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njengokujabulela imizwa emnandi emzimbeni wakho," kusho uBerlin.

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Noma eNyakatho Rhine-Westphalia, lokho kusho:

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Ukushintshana ngothando, ukuthintana, kanye nokuhlola
umzimba ngokungahlelekile nangokuthakazelela kubalulekile

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ekwakheni umqondo wokuzazi nasekuqapheliseni ubulili bomuntu.

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Lokhu kuvame ukwenzeka ngokuzwela
nangokwemvelo ngokudlala. Izingane zasenurserini!

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Yilokho ithiyori. Kodwa le mibono isho
ukuthini empeleni kulabo abathintekayo?

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Oomama ababili, abafuna kokubili ukuhlala
bengaziwa, bachaza ukuthi konke lokhu kwenzeke

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kanjani enkundleni yabo yokunakekela izingane.

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Icala lokuqala lenzeka esikhungweni esiphethwe
yinhlangano engenzi nzuzo i-Volkssolidarität eSaxony-Anhalt.

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Ngizwa okokuqala ngomqondo wemfundo
ngocansi ezinkundleni zezindaba ezihlukile.

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Bekungokwempela ukuthi imiqondo enjalo ikhona eningizimu ejulile
yaseJalimane, futhi ngangimangele noma ngamangala ngempela

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ukuthi into enjalo ikhona, kodwa ngangihlale ngizicabanga:

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Hhayi thina — lapha endaweni yokugcina
izingane yomphakathi — kahle, lokho ngeke kwenzeke

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nhlobo, noma okungenani ngeke kufike lapho.

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Kodwa kude nakho. Ngelinye ilanga, imiqondo emisha yokunakekelwa
kwezingane imemezelwa ebusuku yabazali — ngaphandle kokuyichaza.

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Ulwazi olunemininingwane
engaphezulu lungatholakala ebhodini lolwazi.

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Ngesinye isikhathi ngangimi kuleli bhodi lolwazi
futhi ngafunda ngalolu hlelo lwezemfundo ngocansi kanye

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nemiqondo yezikhala nemiqondo yodlame, ukuthi lukhona.

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Ngaphaphama ngacela ikomidi
labazali bethu ukuthi lihlolisise udaba.

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Futhi yilokho abakwenzile.

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Futhi kuphela ngale ndlela okuqukethwe komqondo kuzokwazeka —
okungukuthi ngokunembile lokho okuphakanyiswa yi-WHO ne-BZGA.

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Futhi qaphela, konke lokhu kwakuhloselwe
ukwethulwa ngokuyimfihlo, ngaphandle kolwazi kwabazali.

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Kulungile, igama elithi 'umqondo
wemfundo ngocansi' alizange likhulunywe ngalo.

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Ngifunde lokho kuphela kule bhodi —
ngamabhalu amancane kakhulu phakathi kwezibambi.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi isihloko esibaluleke kangaka bekufanele
kuthunyelwe i-imeyili ejikelezayo, noma kube nomhlangano wabazali,

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noma ngisho incwadi yolwazi noma okuthile okufana nalokho.

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Ngoba lokho kuyindaba ebalulekile.

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Okungenani icala lesibili belicacile kakhulu.

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Lokhu kwenzeka endaweni yokunakekela izingane eLower Saxony.

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Besinamahlandla ajwayelekile wokuhlangana
nabazali futhi sasihlala sethulwa entweni entsha.

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Kwathi-ke ngalobo busuku, abaphathi besikole
sabantwana kanye nothisha basitshela ukuthi kunomqondo omusha

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nokuthi izingane kumele zivuleke kakhulu ngobulili bazo.

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Futhi yingakho babe besetha ikona egcekeni lokudlala
lezingane lapho izingane zazizimele khona — futhi

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lapho, ngokuyisisekelo, cishe yonke into yayivunyelwe.

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Ngakho-ke imidlalo ebizwa ngokuthi yezokwelapha
— umuntu ngeke ngempela angenelele lapho futhi.

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Nokho, izingane zazizotshelwa ukuthi imingcele ikuphi.

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Kwathi-ke ngaleso sikhathi ukuthi yebo, ningaba ningenamvunulo,
ningathintana, futhi yebo — nizihlolisise nina nabanye —

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bobabili abafana namantombazane — ndawonye eqenjini elixubekile.

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Yebo, kodwa ngangicabanga ukuthi ngandlela
thile sasikhulisa ingane yethu ngendlela ehlukile.

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Lokho ngeke kumiswe nhlobo.

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Kodwa izinto zagcina zihlukile.

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Ngakho-ke ngafika ekuseni — ngathatha indodana yethu
encane waya enursery, kwathi-ke uthisha wenursery

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wangibuza ukuthi ngabe ngingangena yini ukuzoxoxa ntambama.

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Kwenzeke isigameko.

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Futhi-ke ngizoya engxoxweni namhlanje ntambama.

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Inhloko yesikhungo sokunakekela izingane nothisha
wesikhungo sokunakekela izingane babehlezi lapho.

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Futhi bakutshele ukuthi kwenzekeni lapho?

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Yebo, bese bathi indodana yethu ayilandelanga imithetho.

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Mhlawumbe akwenzekanga kule kona ethile, kodwa endlini yangasese.

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Wayengeke amukele 'cha' yomunye umntwana futhi wayezomthinta.

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Kodwa lokho bekungeke kube okufunwayo.

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Ngakho-ke ekuqaleni ngangididekile ngokuphelele futhi
ngacabanga, ingabe lokhu kungaba yiqiniso ngempela?

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Kwathi-ke ngasho nje ukuthi ngizokhuluma nendodana yami.

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Hhayi-ke, akazange angitshele lutho ngalokho.

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Futhi-ke nixoxe ngalokho nendodana yakho?

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Impela.

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Ngamthatha nami ngokushesha — sekuyisikhathi sokumthatha.

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Khona-ke sahlala phansi ngokuthula ekhaya,
ngambuza nje: Ngitshele, kwenzekeni lapho?

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Kwathi-ke waba mncane kakhulu ngandlela thile,
wabheka phansi wathi: Mama, angizange ngenze lutho nhlobo.

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Ngabe sengimtshela ukuthi wayebekwe icala ngani.

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Uthi: Yebo, ngiyazi, kodwa angizange ngithinte elinye ingane.

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Bekungekho lutho nhlobo.

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Kodwa manje kwakuyizwi lomuntu oyedwa eliphikisana nelomunye.

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Indodana yami yaba ngumonakali ngokuzumayo.

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Kuthiwa wathinta ingane, kanti ingane yayingakufuni lokho.

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Futhi ngandlela thile kwahlala
kungaxazululekile — kwakungekho okungakusobala.

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Futhi lokho kuyinkinga eyisisekelo.

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Lokhu kubonakala futhi ezimweni ezikholelwa
ukuthi kube nokuhlukunyezwa ngabantu abadala,

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njengoba kuchazwe kulo mbiko weHessischer Rundfunk.

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Umuntu ohlukumeza izingane ngokocansi osebenza nezingane
ezincane unesengozo esiphansi kakhulu sokutholakala,

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ngokusho kummeli wesisulu u-Ulrich Warnke wase-White Ring.

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Lokhu kungenxa yokuthi kukhona ukuqagela okubanzi
ohlelweni lobulungisa ukuthi izitatimende ezenziwa

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izingane ezingaphansi kweminyaka emine azivunyelwe enkantolo.

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Isizathu: izingane azikwazi ukukhumbula izinto
kahle njengabantu abadala, futhi izitatimende zabo

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zingathonywa abazali babo nabanye abantu abadala.

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Lesi yisimo esingenza umuntu acabange ngaphezu kokuma nje, uma
kubhekwa uxhumano lwama-pedophili kochwepheshe be-WHO oluvezwe.

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Ngakho-ke izitatimende zabo azamukelekile enkantolo.

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Futhi inkinga futhi ukuthi lapho
kunokuhlukunyezwa phakathi kwezingane, ekugcineni kuba

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yizwi lomuntu oyedwa eliphikisana nelomunye.

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Omunye umama wachaza ngokucacile kakhulu.

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Indodana yakhe ngumsolwa, phakathi kwezimpawu
zokucaphuna, futhi vele uyakholelwa enganeni yakhe.

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Imibono enjalo iphinde ibonakale ikhuthaza ukuhlukunyezwa
ngokocansi ezinganeni, okungeke kuphinde kuphenywe.

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Futhi uyakhumbula, nakuba kwakuyiminyaka eminingi eyedlule,
empeleni uyakhumbula kuze kube namuhla futhi uzizwa ehlazekile

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ngakho konke lokhu, nakuba eqinisekisa ukuthi akazange akwenze.

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Ingabe izingane ezincane zingaba abenzi bobubi,
noma ingabe leli gama ngokwalo alifanele kulesi simo?

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Ingabe bobabili abantwana abangabahlupheki
bezimo ezingezinhle abantu abadala abangabhekele?

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Hhayi-ke, umhlaba uyadalwa.

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Izingane zithuthwa ngokungokwenziwa zifakwe entweni ethile futhi
ziphoqelelwe kuyo, lapho-ke zigcina

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sezisesimweni engingasichaza njengobulili bokwenziwa,
okungukuthi obungakhuli ngokwemvelo njengokuvamile.

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Njengoba ngishilo, futhi, ngokusekelwe
ebuhlotsheni obuhle nasekuthuthukisweni okunempilo,

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ucansi olunempilo ekugcineni luzokhula ngokwemvelo.

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Yilowo ndlela.

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Lapha, ukuphazamiseka kwenzeka kusenesikhathi kakhulu empilweni
yomuntu okungenalutho okuhlobene nobulili ngale ndlela.

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Futhi-ke, impela, kungathuthukiswa ngendlela engaphilile
futhi ekugcineni kungase kungakwazi ukwamukela imingcele.

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Futhi mhlawumbe ihlazo, ukuzonda kanye nohlelo
lwemvelo lokuzivikela komzimba nazo azokhula kahle.

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Futhi lokho, vele, kuvula umnyango ekuxhatshazweni.

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Ekugcineni, ngiyakwazi ngempela ukucabanga ukuthi lokhu kuholela
ngqo emiphumeleni ephikisana ngokuphelele nalokho abakholwayo

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manje ukuthi ubulili bezingane kufanele
bukhuthazwe kusenesikhathi ukuze bazibekele imingcele

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kusenesikhathi. Ngingathi okuphambene ngqo kuyenzeka.

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Futhi manje sekucacile ngokwezibalo,
okungenani eNyakatho Rhine-Westphalia.

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Kwavela ukuthi inani lezigameko zokuhlukunyezwa
ngokocansi phakathi kwezingane ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa

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kwezingane likhuphuke kakhulu eminyakeni yamuva nje.

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Izibalo zamaphoyisa zobugebengu zamanje nazo zikhombisa ukunyuka
okukhulu, kanti izinombolo zokuntshontsha

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okuncane, isibonelo, ezivame kakhulu
ezinganeni, zihlale cishe zifana eminyakeni edlule.

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Yebo, lapho izingane zibhekana nokuhlukunyezwa
okunjalo, kumele ngicabange ukuthi zidlulele ngokomzwelo

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futhi, esimweni esibi kakhulu, zithola ukulimala kwengqondo.

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Futhi uma ujwayelene nalezi zixhumanisi ezivela kwezokwelapha
ukushaqeka, khona-ke sikhuluma ngesidingo

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esinamandla sokuphindaphinda, okusho isidingo esinamandla
sokuphinda kwenzeke izigameko ezivusa ukushaqeka.

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Kufanele ukucabange njengomphendulo ochungechungeni.

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Uma nginabantwana abathile abangachazwa
njengabangathintekile futhi bengatholi ukwesekwa

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kokwelapha noma le nhlupheko ingaxazululwa.

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Bese badlulisela lezi zinto ezidabukisayo kwabanye izingane.

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Futhi lokho kuchaza, okungenani kancane, le ntuthuko yezibalo.

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Lokhu futhi sekelwa yabezindaba.

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Ngisho, uma ubheka emuva, kwakuvamile ukuthi okuqukethwe
okuhlobene nocansi kufanele kube ohlelweni lwasebusuku.

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Kodwa izingane zanamuhla zikwazi ukufinyelela kuyo kalula.

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Futhi empeleni akuyona nhlobo inkinga ukuthi
izingane zibuke izigcawu ezinjalo

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emafilimini, emidlalweni yekhompyutha noma nganoma yini.

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Futhi lokho, impela, kuyinkinga uma imiqondo
yemfundo ilandela indlela efanayo futhi

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ucansi lukhuthazwa ngenkuthalo ezinganeni njalo.

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Lokho akunakho nhlobo ukwenza nokuzikhethela komntwana.

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Uma uyibona kaningi ezinkundleni zezindaba, uma uyizwa kaningi
futhi ithiwa nasenkulisa, isibonelo, "Hhayi-ke, zihlolisise."

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Futhi uma usuba nesifiso socansi, akusaseyona into umntwana
azinqumela yona. Esikhundleni salokho, kunqunywa ngomntwana.

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Kufanele kwenze lokho.

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Yilowo umkhombandlela esiya kuwo.

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Futhi-ke nginengcindezi yeqembu
umntwana ayithola kunzima ukuyinqoba.

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Futhi uma ungeza kulokho abantu abangaziwa abangenaso isidingo
sokuba nendima ekuthuthukisweni kwe-psycho-neurotic,

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kwezengqondo, ekwelashweni kwengqondo noma ekuhlolweni
kwengqondo, njengabanakekeli bezingane esikoleni sabantwana

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abancane, isibonelo, abangafundiswanga kulesi simo
ukuphendula ngokuzwela, yiziphi izingane ezithunyelwa

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kulezi zindawo ezithokomele, futhi empeleni zivela kuphi?

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Babezizwa kanjani ngempela ekhaya?

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Kungabe umfana, noma ngisho nentombazane,
babhekana nocansi olungaphilile ekhaya

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besenemncane, futhi mhlawumbe bahlangabezana nodlame?

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Ngakho ngishiya izingane ezimbili ndawonye ezivele zikhulisa
ubuntu bazo, ezivele zibe nezipiliyoni zazo zokuqala

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zokungezwani futhi ezingase zibe nobuntu obungezwani,
okungukuthi ubuntu obulimala kalula. Enye nayo elimala kalula.

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Futhi lapho laba bobabili behlangana — ngikhuluma ngamandla,
ngikhuluma ngokuhlukunyezwa — khona-ke kwenzeka izinto eziningi

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kulezo zindawo ezithokomele esasingakaze sizicabange ngisho
nasemaphusheni ethu amabi kakhulu, izinto izingane ezenzana zona.

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Nokho, le mibono iyamukeleka ngezizathu
zokuvimbela ukuhlukunyezwa, ngaphezu kwazo zonke izinto.

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Impela, imfundo ngocansi iphinde ihloselwe ukuqinisekisa
ukuthi izingane ezisezimweni eziyingozi ziyakwazi ukufuna usizo,

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zibheke komunye umuntu futhi zibe nolimi lokwenza kanjalo.

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I-AWO, enye yezinhlangano ezinkulu kakhulu eJalimane ezinakekela
izingane, ishicilele ngisho inguqulo yayo ye-ajenda ye-WHO

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ebhukwini elinesihloko esithi "Imibono yokuvikela ekuxhatshazweni
ngokocansi kwezingane nabantu abasha ezikhungweni nasezinsizeni".

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Futhi kuyo sifunda lokho esijwayelekile kakhulu
kithi, kusukela kuKentler kuya kuTimmermanns .

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Futhi bayanda kakhulu.

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Yebo, lapha kumqondo wendawo yokunakekelwa
kwezingane waseLower Saxony, isibonelo, kuthiwa:

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Imidlalo yokuhlola umzimba, evame ukubizwa
ngokuthi imidlalo kadokotela, ingenye yezindlela ezivame

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kakhulu nezaziwayo zokuziveza kobulili ebantwaneni.

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Ukuvimbela ukwephulwa kwemingcele, kubalulekile ukuthi abazali,
abasizi bezemfundo nochwepheshe ezikhungweni baxoxe kaningi

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nezingane ngemithetho elandelayo yemidlalo yokuhlola umzimba.

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1. Ukuzibandakanya ngokuzithandela — ingabe
bonke ababambiqhaza bafuna ukudlala umdlalo?

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2. Ungasho ukuthi yima nganoma yisiphi isikhathi. Cha kusho cha!

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3. Akekho ozolimala.

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4. Akukho okufakwa emigudwini yomzimba.

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5. Iminyaka efanayo: Umehluko weminyaka akufanele ube
mkhulu kakhulu, ukuze kungabikho ukungalingani kwamandla.

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6. Ungacela usizo nganoma yisiphi
isikhathi. Ukucela usizo akusikokuxoxa ngabanye.

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Yebo, lezo yizimiso ezijwayelekile, futhi lapho
ngicabanga ngokuhlala ngitshela izingane lezo zimiso, yilokho

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ngqo okubangela ukuthi zibe nombono kusukela ekuqaleni.

51:54.600 --> 52:00.217
Yebo, impela! Uma wethula le migomo, kuqala
wenza izingane zibone ukuthi izinto ezinjalo

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ziyakhona, bese uzikhuthaza ukuthi ziphande kabanzi.

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Futhi lokho akudingekile nhlobo ezinganeni.

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Uma kungathuthuki ngokwalo, kodwa kuphela ngaleli qhuzuko.

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Ukuhlekisa kwakho konke lokhu wukuthi, empeleni,
akukho kwezifundo zemfundo ngocansi okufanele

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kube yimpoqo ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane.

52:19.646 --> 52:21.312
Kuhlale kuzwakala kanjalo, kodwa akunjalo nhlobo.

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Okuphela kwento ababephoqelekile ukuyenza kwakuwukuhlinzeka
ngomqondo wokuvikela udlame ngaleli

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Thethisisomthetho Lokuthuthukisa
Amantombazane Nabantu Abasha lika-2021 kuya ku-2024.

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Yonke indawo yokunakekela izingane kumele ibe
nalokhu ukuze ithole noma igcine ilayisensi yokusebenza.

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Futhi njengengxenye yale mibono yokuvikela udlame,
manje bonke sebebuyisebenzisa le mibono yemfundo ngocansi.

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Futhi konke kuxubana.

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Imibono yokuvimbela isiza ukuqinisekisa ukuthi abantu abadala
abahlukumezi izingane nokuvimbela ukuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi

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kwezingane ngabantu abadala ezikhungweni zikahulumeni.

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Ngasikhathi sinye, abantu bathi, kahle, ukuze sivimbele
izingane ekuxhatshazweni, sithuthukisa imiqondo yemfundo

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ngocansi ukuze izingane zikwazi ukubiza izinto ngamagama.

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Kodwa lokho akuthinti izingane nhlobo.

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Kufanele ukhulume nabantu abadala
ukuze uvimbele ukuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi.

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Yebo, ngicabanga ukuthi esimweni lapho ingane
kumele ithi cha ukuze igweme ukuphathwa kabi

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ngabanye izingane, lokho sekuyiphathwa kabi.

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Yebo, lokho sekucatshangwe.

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Lapho sidlala, asilimazi abanye. Cha, cha.

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Uma uthi MISA... - Yebo, ngiyazi. - ...siyomisa, kulungile.

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… Ingabe izingane zingasho nhlobo ukuthi cha,
noma ingabe ukuziphatha kwabantu abadala

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kuyadluliselwa ezinganeni ezincane lapha futhi?

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"Ngizothi nje ukuthi akusebenzi."

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Impela, kufanele utshele izingane ukuthi imizimba yazo iyabo
nokuthi akekho ongaletha isandla kuzo uma zingafuni ukuthintwa.

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Lena into okufanele futhi okumele itshelwe izingane.

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Akufanele nje ukulindela ukuthi bakwazi ukwenza kanjalo.

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Cha kulowo mkhulu, cha eminyakeni yokuqala
yokungena esikoleni, abakwazi ngempela ukwenza lokho.

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Bangakwenza lokho kamuva ebuncaneni babo – futhi
abaningi babo basenokungakwazi ukukwenza lokho,

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yebo. Ngakho-ke nawe kufanele ufunde ukusho HAYI.

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Kodwa awukwazi ukulindela izingane
ezisencane ukuthi zikwazi ukwenza lokho.

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Lokho kuwukuqala kokufunda ukuthi ngingabeka imingcele – kodwa
ngizokwazi ukwenza lokho kuphela kamuva kakhulu, ngokuqinisekile.

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Yebo, masicacise:

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Ingxenye ekhethekile yemfundo ngocansi enezixhumanisi ezicacile
ne-paedophilia isithathwe izinhlangano ezinethonya, ezisebenzisa

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ukuphoqa uhlelo olunobunzima oluvela phezulu, ngenhloso yokwenza
izinto ezingempela ezingaphansi kwabamangaleli

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namahhovisi ezokunakekelwa kwezingane zibe yingxenye
yansuku zonke ezikhungweni zokunakekelwa kwezingane.

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"Ihhovisi LikaSizo Lwentsha LweSifundazwe eLower Saxony
livale igumbi lokuhlola umzimba esikhungweni sokunakekelwa

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kwezingane esiphethwe yiWorkers' Welfare Association eHanover."

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Umqondo wemfundo wahlelwa uMnyango Wezemfundo
Nezamasiko njengowobeka engcupheni inhlalakahle yezingane.

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Kwakukhona injabulo enkulu ngo-2023,
sengathi konke kwakungumangalo omkhulu.

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Kodwa empeleni, lokhu yilokho okwenzeka ngempela
kuzo zonke izikhungo zethu zokunakekela izingane.

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Futhi ezinye iziteshi zezindaba
zasekhohlo sezisekela lolu hlelo isikhathi eside.

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Nokho, umoya wokuvuka manje usongela ukubusa
emithonjeni yezindaba, njengoba kungabonakala

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kulo mbiko wesifunda se-SAT wango-Ephreli 2025:

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"Imidlalo kadokotela noma ukuhlolwa komzimba endaweni
yokudlondlobala kwezingane, ukuzidlalela ngokocansi..."

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eLower Saxony futhi, njengaseHanover.

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Kodwa esikhundleni sokuyivimbela, uNgqongqoshe
wezamasiko manje uvikela lo mqondo nazo zonke

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izingxenye zamaqiniso namanga esizitholile lapha.

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"Yonke inyuvesi iphoqelekile ukuchaza emiqondweni yayo ukuthi
iphathe kanjani ukuthuthukiswa kwezingane futhi ngaleyo ndlela

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nokutholwa kwemizimba yazo, ngoba lokhu kubalulekile ukuze
ekugcineni kuvikelwe izingane ekuxhatshazweni - futhi lezi

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zisekelwe ezindinganisweni zemfundo
nezesayensi ngakho-ke zibhekwa ngokucophelela futhi

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ziphenywa yiHhovisi LikaMbuso Lezinsiza Zentsha.

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"Uma uthatha isigaba esisodwa nje ngaphandle
komongo, njengalokhu okwenzwa labo abaphethe eBramsche,

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kungaholela ngokushesha ekuqondeni okungalungile."

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Ukungaqondi kahle? Cha nhlobo!

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Kuyingozi ebantwaneni exhaswa nguhulumeni,
okukhuthazwa ngabalandeli bezimfundiso

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zesokunxele kwezepolitiki nasemithonjeni yezindaba.

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Ngaphezu kwezinganekwane ezifana
nokuvimbela ukuhlukunyezwa nokuqina kwesayensi,

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kukhona enye into edlalayo: amandla omthetho.

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Lokhu kungabonakala futhi kuTimmermann
2013: amalungelo abalindelwe ezinganeni.

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"Impela, lokhu kufaka phakathi ilungelo
lokuthuthukiswa okuhle nokomuntu siqu kobulili ezinganeni..."

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Ngamafuphi: ngoba izingane zinelungelo lemfundo
ngocansi, abazali bazo abahlala belinqaba, umbuso kumele

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angenelele ukuze uphoqe leli lungelo okuthiwa likhona.

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Futhi yingakho, ngokombono walolu ciko
lwezinkolelo, lokhu kuyisibonelo esiphelele: ubulili

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bezingane uma kuqhathaniswa nobulili babantu abadala.

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Labo abaphika izingane ubuntwana bazo bese bezichaza kabusha
njengabantu bezocansi bangase bamukele lolu thuthuko,

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kodwa kumele bazibuze ukuthi ingabe kungaba ukuhlangana nje
ukuthi lwaqala ezindaweni lapho izingane zingaphezu kwalokho:

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Izinto zokulangazelela ngokocansi
zabantu abadala abaphathwayo ngabantwana.

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Futhi-ke, efakwe kulo mkhuba ojwayelekile wokuthandwa
kobuhlukahluka, kuyaphushwa ngaphandle kokuzithiba –

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ngamandla kangangokuba ngisho nakubantu abavikela imigomo
yendabuko, cishe akekho umpolitiki onamandla okungavuma.

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"Sisabalalise lolu cwaningo kuwo
wonke amalungu ePhalamende laseYurophu."

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Sasinohlu lwabantu abangama-700, futhi ngeshwa
kuphendule abantu abathathu kuphela kulawo-700.

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Kuze kube manje, akukaze kuthathwe
zinyathelo zokungabaza ubuqiniso baleli xwebhu.

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Lokhu kukhombisa ukuthi abezepolitiki
banentshisekelo engakanani ekuvikeleni izingane kulezi zinsuku.

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Kuxoxwa ngezihloko eziningi, kodwa
ngokuvamile azihlanganisi izingane.

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Njengoba zombili iqembu lochwepheshe nemithombo esetshenzisiwe
zinobandlululo, ngikholelwa ukuthi ukuqhubeka

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nalolu hlobo lwemfundo ngocansi kusebenza
ukuhlukanisa izingane ngokuphelele ngokwemvelo yazo.

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Futhi uma bezijwayeza izingane ukuzibandakanya ebudlelwaneni
bezocansi kusukela ekuqaleni, noma ukubuka ucansi njengento

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okufanele idliwe njengalezo zokudla ezimnandi, okungukuthi
njengomkhiqizo wabathengi, uma bezijwayeza ukushintsha abalingani

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njalo, khona-ke kuvela umbuzo wokuthi lo muntu uzonquma nini,
isibonelo, ukuqala umndeni nokungena ebudlelwaneni obuzinzile?

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Yilokho ngempela abazali abaningi abazizwa kanjalo.
Yilokho ngempela okubangela ukumelana, futhi kuyafaneleka.

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Umama waseSaxony-Anhalt, kanye nabanye abazali,
wakwazi ukuvimba ukwethulwa kwalo mqondo

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esikhungweni sakhe sokunakekela izingane okwamanje.

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"Ngokuvamile, ngangikhathazekile ngokuthi kukhona
umqondo wemfundo ngocansi ekuqaleni, ngoba kimi amagama

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athi ucansi nobuntwana awahambisani. Ziyaphikisana."

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Umama waseLower Saxony, ngakolunye
uhlangothi, uzisola ngokungaphikisanga ngokushesha.

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"Empeleni, ngicasukile kimi ngokungakhulumi ngokushesha ngalobo
busuku babazali ngathi: Cha, angifuni lokho enganeni yami!"

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Ngiyeluleka wonke umuntu ukuthi abheke ngokucophelela
umqondo osebenzisa yinkundla yokunakekela izingane engiyithumela

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kuyo ingane yami, ukuze baqinisekise ukuthi inakekelwa kahle.

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Futhi lapho kuvela umqondo wokufundisa ogxile
ocansini, ngincoma wonke umuntu ukuthi athi cha.

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Futhi uma indawo yokunakekela izingane
ingayeki lokhu, ngempela ngikweluleka ukuthi ukhiphe

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ingane yakho lapho uyithumele kwenye indawo!

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Ngoba ngikholelwa – futhi ngiyabona lokhu kwendodana
yami emva kweminyaka eminingi – ukuthi akakakhohlwa.

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Angazi ukuthi angahlupheka kangakanani ngalokhu okuhlangenwe nakho
kwakhe kokuqala kocansi lapho efika ekukhuleni kwesifazane.

01:00:06.939 --> 01:00:08.518
Angikakwazi ukusho okwamanje.

01:00:08.518 --> 01:00:15.683
Uma umuntu ecabanga ukuthi lokhu kwenzeka njalo futhi kuvamile
ngesikhathi sokuvuthwa, khona-ke umuntu kumele akwazi nokufakazela

01:00:15.683 --> 01:00:22.981
ukuthi kungani, ngaphansi kwezinye izimiso, sekwephuzile futhi
mhlawumbe ngisho kukhuthaza izinqubo zokukhula ezingezinhle.

01:00:22.981 --> 01:00:26.200
Kodwa akukho bufakazi ngalokho.

01:00:26.200 --> 01:00:39.220
Ngakho-ke kungani ngifanele ngivuse izifiso zocansi ebuncaneni
uma izingane zingazidingi ukuze zikhule ngendlela enempilo?

01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:46.520
Ngakho-ke uma lokho kungekho, akekho okwamanje okhombisile ukuthi
izingane zizokhula ngendlela engajwayelekile noma ebonakalayo.

01:00:46.520 --> 01:00:53.097
Nokho, sesibone ukwanda kokuhlukunyezwa
ngokocansi kusukela lezi zindlela zaba yinto

01:00:53.097 --> 01:00:58.040
ejwayelekile, futhi lo mqondo wokuhambisana uyabonakala.

01:00:58.040 --> 01:01:02.357
Kodwa angikwazi ukufakazela okuphambene nalokhu.

01:01:02.357 --> 01:01:07.886
"Ukuphetha: Le mibono ngempela inikeza iziqondiso zokuthi
ungaziphoqa kanjani ekuhlukumezeni

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ngokocansi nokukhuthaza ukuzalelwa ngokocansi
okungokoqobo – kusukela ebuncaneni kakhulu."

01:01:13.662 --> 01:01:19.721
"Ngaphezu kwalokho, kuwumthwalo oyisisekelo wabazali
ukufundisa izingane zabo ngalezi zindaba nokuphendula

01:01:19.721 --> 01:01:23.180
noma yimiphi imibuzo abangaba nayo ngaleso sikhathi."

01:01:23.180 --> 01:01:29.337
Akuyona into abantwana abagxila kuyo
ukuhlala becabanga ngobulili ngaphandle kokucelwa.

01:01:29.337 --> 01:01:32.205
"Yebo, futhi kumayelana nabazali abaqaphe ngempela."

01:01:32.205 --> 01:01:35.781
Abazali ngempela kumele balandele lokhu futhi kubavezwe kubo.

01:01:35.781 --> 01:01:40.940
"Le mibono yemfundo ngocansi
ezikhungweni zokunakekela izingane kumele isuswe."

01:01:40.940 --> 01:01:45.117
Lokho akulona indawo egcekeni lezingane. Izingane azidingi lokho.

01:01:45.117 --> 01:01:51.264
Izingane zidinga ukubopha, hhayi
imfundo ngocansi. Lokhu kuwubuwula!

01:01:51.264 --> 01:01:52.820
Nathi ningenelele.

01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:58.784
Yabelana ngaleli filimu, wazisa abangane
nomndeni wakho, usabalalise izinto zolwazi.

01:01:58.784 --> 01:02:02.000
Bonisa abanye okwenzekayo.

01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.540
Ngoba lena yindlela engalungile umphakathi
wethu ongakwazi ukuyishiya ngokushesha okwanele.

01:02:07.540 --> 01:02:11.552
Ekugcineni, kuncike kithi, abazali.

01:02:11.552 --> 01:02:16.326
Siyisibambiso sokugcina sokulwa nokwenza
izingane zethu zibe ngokocansi nokuhlaselwa

01:02:16.326 --> 01:02:20.280
kwe-woke ezinganeni zethu e: "Crime scene nursery"

01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:25.088
(Ukuhlasela kwama-woke ezinganeni zethu)
Iphrojekthi yefilimu ye-"Demo für alle" (Demo for All).

01:02:25.088 --> 01:02:30.440
Uma ungathanda ukusekela umsebenzi
wethu, sizobonga kakhulu ngeminikelo yakho.

01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:34.033
Futhi ungakhohlwa ukubhalisela isiteshi
sethu kanye nenqolobane yezindaba yethu.