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Sabine McNeill alisomea sayansi ya kompyuta na
hisabati na alifanya kazi CERN kwa miaka 15.

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Baadaye alifanya kazi kama mpangaji wa matukio, mbunifu wa
programu, mchapishaji wa wavuti na msanii wa kihisabati.

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Huko London, alijitolea kama 'McKenzie Friend',
ambayo ni sawa na mshauri wa kisheria asiye mtaalamu.

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Katika kipindi cha kazi yake, alikumbana na waathiriwa wa
unyanyasaji wa kishirikina na watoto

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waliochukuliwa chini ya uangalizi, ambao
hawakuwasaidiwa bali waliathiriwa vibaya na mfumo wa haki.

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Sabine McNeill alianza kutangaza kesi hizi mtandaoni.

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Alifanya kazi bila kuchoka kwa niaba ya watoto ambao
walikuwa wamechukuliwa kutoka kwa wazazi wao na

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serikali, na hata aliibua suala hili katika Bunge la Ulaya.

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"Ndiyo maana tuko hapa leo. Tuko hapa kuomba msaada."

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Kuna watoto wanaopiga kelele ili wasikike. Ikiwa
hutawasikia watoto hawa wakipiga kelele, nani atawasikia?

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Kwa jumla, alihusika katika
takriban kesi 50 za kuondolewa kwa watoto.

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Iliyojulikana zaidi ilikuwa 'Kesi ya
Hampstead', ambapo alichapisha video zilizo na taarifa

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za mashahidi kutoka kwa watoto Alisa na Gabriel.

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Ndani yake, watoto walitoa ushahidi kwamba
baba yao alikuwa ameunda ibada ya kishetani

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iliyokuwa ikiwatesa na kuua watoto mara kwa mara.

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Walisema pia jinsi baba yao alivyoongoza
mikono yao walipokuwa wakiua watoto wachanga.

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"Baba yetu anatufundisha mimi na sisi wengine
kufanya hivi kwa sababu hatuwezi kuifanya wenyewe."

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Hatuna nguvu za kutosha kukata kichwa cha mtoto.

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Anachotakiwa kufanya ni kushikilia kisu, kuweka mkono
wake juu ya mikono yetu na kutusaidia kukata kichwa cha

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mtoto, kwa sababu bado anajifunza jinsi ya kufanya hivyo.

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Ananifundisha mimi na Gabriel.

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Licha ya kauli hizi, baba hakuhukumiwa na mahakama; badala yake,
mahakama ilimwondoa watoto kwa mama na kumpa baba malezi pekee.

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Baadaye, hakimu yuleyule pia alihakikisha kwamba,
katika kesi ya unyanyasaji ya Hollie Greig nchini

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Scotland, baba aliyeshtakiwa kwa unyanyasaji hakuwa na hatia.

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Hata hivyo, kulikuwa na mifanano na kesi ya Hampstead si tu
katika historia ya hakimu bali pia katika ile ya wahalifu.

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Hata baada ya hukumu ya Hampstead, Sabine
aliendelea kuwa mchangamfu, akikusanya sahihi elfu

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kumi kwa ajili ya maombi na kukusanya ushahidi.

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Pia alitoa orodha ya wahalifu 175 iliyotayarishwa na mama.

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Hii iliwaweka wahalifu katika hali ngumu, na
hatimaye waliwasilisha malalamiko ya jinai dhidi yao.

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Akiwa na umri wa miaka 73, baadaye alihukumiwa
kifungo kirefu cha miaka tisa gerezani na

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kufukuzwa hadi Ujerumani baada ya takriban miaka minne.

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Tovuti zao nyingi zimeondolewa.

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Licha ya unyanyasaji alioupata gerezani, Sabine hakukata tamaa:

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Anaendelea kuunga mkono wanaharakati wenzake katika mapambano
dhidi ya unyanyasaji wa watoto na usafirishaji haramu wa watoto.

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Hujambo, hujambo Sabine. Kumbatio kubwa!

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Hujambo, Lois. Asante kwa kunisikiliza.

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Ndio, ni heshima gani kuweza
kuzungumza nanyi leo katika AZK ya 22!

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Umeunga mkono waathirika wengi wa unyanyasaji
wa mila za kishetani na pia umewawasiliana

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nao ili waweze kushiriki katika filamu zangu.

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Ulikutana na baadhi ya akina mama gerezani ambao
watoto wao walikuwa wamechukuliwa kutoka kwao.

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Umepigana kwa ajili ya mama hawa, na bado
unapigana kama simba mke kwa ajili ya mama hawa na watoto.

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Kwa nini hutusimulia kidogo kuhusu uzoefu wako?

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Ndiyo, ni vigumu kwa sababu sijui wapi pa kuanza.

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Waathiriwa wa kwanza niliowakutana
nao hawakuhusiana kabisa na watoto.

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Kulikuwa na wanaume katika Nyumba ya
Mabwana , ambapo niliandaa matukio.

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Kwanza walikuja waathirika wa benki na mahakama.

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Na kisha, kwa ujumla, wanawake walijitokeza, na kisha
kulikuwa na watoto hawa walioripoti mabaya zaidi ya yote.

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Na hata kabla ya hapo, mambo tayari yalikuwa mabaya kiasi hicho.

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Sitasahau kamwe jinsi mfanyakazi wa kijamii wa Romania
alivyodai kwamba hii haikuwa hali kwa familia ya Kireno

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yenye watoto watano, ambayo – tuseme – ingemwamsamehe.

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Na hiyo ilikuwa ya kuhuzunisha sana,
ya kipuuzi sana na ya unafiki sana.

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Huwezi tu kusimama na kutazama bila kufanya chochote.

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Ikiwa nitakuambia kuhusu uzoefu wangu, basi labda mbaya
zaidi ilikuwa mazungumzo na mwanamke aliyekuwa akifanya

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kile kinachoitwa 'mkutano wa kwaheri' na mtoto wake mchanga.

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Na kisha alikuwa na kile kilichoelezwa kuwa
'mkutano wake wa mwisho' kabla ya kuondolewa kwake.

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Kwa hivyo ni unafiki mkubwa mno.

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Na ni mzaha; ni ya kutisha.

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Ndiyo, kwa kweli sijui maneno gani ya kutumia.

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Vema, ni vigumu kusema ni ipi mbaya zaidi.

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Je, uhalifu unapaswa kugawanywa katika
makundi vipi? Kwa idadi ya watoto waliohusika?

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Ukatili unaotendewa watoto, au ule unaotendewa wazazi?

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Uzoefu wa kutisha kabisa wa kuwa gerezani, ambapo hata maafisa
wanaoitwa hivyo wanatumia vibaya mamlaka yao kwa sababu wana

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fursa ya kufanya hivyo, na hufanya kila kitu
isipokuwa kile wanachopaswa kufanya, kile

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kinachohubiriwa na kinachohitajika – angalau kwa nadharia.

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Ni mbaya sana kiasi kwamba, kwa kweli, njia pekee ya kukabiliana
nayo ni kuifasiri, kuisamehe na kuielezea yote akilini mwako.

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Pia uliniambia kuhusu mama ambaye watoto wake
wanne walichukuliwa kutoka kwake na ambaye

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mtoto wake wa tano aliokolewa kutoka gerezani.

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Basi, nilimuona alipokuwa mjamzito gerezani.

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Alipokuwa huru, aliniandikia barua pepe – kwa sababu kuna
huduma ya 'Tuma Barua Pepe kwa Mfungwa' – na kuniambia

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kwa barua pepe kwamba walikuwa wamemchukua mtoto wake pia.

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Na wa tano pia? Ndiyo. Lo, lo, lo.

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Hadi kesi ya Hampstead, kesi mbaya zaidi
ilihusisha familia ya Nigeria yenye watoto saba.

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Watoto wote walichukuliwa.

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Kwa taratibu hizi za kipuuzi katika
mahakama zinazoitwa za familia, ambazo zimefichwa.

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Kwa hivyo waandishi wa habari hawaruhusiwi
kuingia huko. Na imekuwa hivyo kwa miongo kadhaa.

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Na wa saba alizaliwa gerezani.

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Na pia nilikuwa na mawasiliano na mama Mmarekani aliyekuwa
katika seli jirani, ambaye mtoto wake alikuwa amebaki London.

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Na baada ya kusafirishwa nje, licha ya msaada wangu wote.

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Mwanamke Mmarekani alishuhudia kitu
kilekile kabisa kama mwanamke Mninisia.

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Na kama mfanyakazi wa kijamii
alivyosema: "Ndiyo, hutamwona tena."

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Na jambo la 'kutisha' lilikuwa kwamba, ndani ya familia,
binti mkubwa alikuwa amenyanyaswa na mwana wa familia mlezi.

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Binti aliyefuata alimwambia mama yake kwamba kila jioni anasukumwa
kwenda kwenye matukio yenye shaka ambapo kuna wanaume tu.

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Na mwana mdogo aliuliza mama yake pedofilia ni nini.

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Basi nini kilitokea baadaye, ulipokuwa gerezani?

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Basi, nilipokuwa gerezani, nilichapisha ombi.

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Na kufikia wakati huo nilikuwa na sahihi 16,000 na zaidi.

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Na tovuti yangu, niliyoitengeneza kwa ajili ya
watoto, ilikuwa na watazamaji zaidi ya 100,000.

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Kwa kweli, niliandaa kurasa chache za
wavuti kwa ajili ya hali mbaya kabisa.

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Na hivyo ndivyo nilivyokuja kuwa maarufu kiasi.

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Na hii ndiyo mfuko unao kadi zote nilizopokea,
ambazo nimetumia kupamba ukuta wa seli yangu.

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Sijawahi kufanikiwa kutengeneza mkufu kwa kutumia hilo.

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Lakini bila shaka sikutaka kuzitupa.

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Ah, Sabine, tunafurahi sana kwamba umepokea
himizo kama hili, na utaendelea kulipokea.

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Iliniogopesha sana kuona kwa macho yangu
jinsi mtoto kama huyo anavyochukuliwa.

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Acha nionyeshe hilo kwa ufupi.

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"Naam, una chaguo moja tu hapa."

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Unapaswa kumkabidhi kwa mtoa huduma ya kwanza ya
matibabu, kisha unaweza kuendelea na safari yako kwa

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furaha pamoja na marafiki na familia yako wanaosubiri nje.

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Au nitakiondoa kwako na utaenda gerezani.

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Lazima ufanye uamuzi huu. Lazima ufanye sasa.

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"Sitamruhusu aende."

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"Sawa. Sawa."

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Tafadhali mwachilie ili asijeruhiwe,
sawa? Njoo hapa kwa muda mfupi. Sawa.

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"Nilimwachilia aende. Nilimwachilia aende!"

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"Hapana, atakwenda gerezani."

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"Nilitaka tu kusema kwamba sikuweza kufanya
hivyo, lakini nilimruhusu afanye hivyo hata hivyo."

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"Weka mikono yako nyuma ya mgongo wako."

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"Walikifunga mlango wa ambulensi.
Hicho ndicho kitu cha mwisho nilichoona."

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"Wanamuiba mjukuu wangu."

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"Hapana, ingia kwenye gari. Ingia
kwenye gari. Kila kitu kiko sawa."

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"Nataka kusema kwaheri." "Ni sawa. Ingia ndani ya gari."

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"Nataka kusema kwaheri." "Unazidisha tu hali."

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Kila mtoto anastahili takriban dola milioni moja kwa serikali.

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Hivyo basi huyo ndiye babu wa mtoto.

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Ni ukatili sana na ni mbaya sana.

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Namaanisha, 'wanafanya tu kazi yao', sivyo?

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Ni sawa tu na ilivyokuwa wakati wa enzi
ya Wanazi – ndivyo unavyoweza kuielezea.

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Wanatekeleza tu maagizo na wamekuwa kama roboti.

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Hawana hisia zao wenyewe.

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Hawajui tena kile kilicho sahihi.

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Ndiyo. Inatoka juu. Biashara hii yote ya
usafirishaji haramu wa watoto inaungwa mkono, baada ya yote.

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Je, unaweza kuthibitisha hilo pia?

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Ndiyo, ndiyo, hivyo kutoka mwanzo, kwenye mfano wowote.

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Baada ya yote, wahudumu wa kijamii
hawawezi kufanya hivyo bila polisi.

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Polisi hawawezi kufanya hivi bila mahakama.

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Ndiyo. Wewe ni shahidi
aliyeshuhudia yote kwa macho yako mwenyewe.

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Hakika unaweza kusema hivyo.

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Ndiyo, tungependa sana kukushukuru sana kwa
kujitolea kwako kwa akina mama hawa na watoto.

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Kwa kweli, tumeanzisha jukwaa la Vetopedia ambapo
akina mama hawa wanaweza kujisajili na kurekodi matukio

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ambapo watoto wao wamechukuliwa chini ya uangalizi.

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Ili tuweze kupata uelewa bora zaidi wa mfumo ulio nyuma yake.

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Bila shaka tungefurahi ikiwa ungeweza kushiriki hii na
kueneza habari hii ndani ya mtandao wako pia, mpendwa Sabine.

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Ndiyo, ni ya kushangaza kile unachofanya. Hiyo
ni ya ajabu kabisa. Asante kwa kunisikiliza.

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Ndiyo, asante sana sana kwa yote uliyoyafanya
kwa mama hawa na watoto! Hiyo ni nzuri sana.

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Hakika tutaeneza habari, mpendwa Sabine McNiell. Na tunakupenda.

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Asante. Na pia asante kwenu nyote. Nina heshima kubwa kwa
kila kitu mliyofanya na mnaendelea kufanya. Na nawapenda nyote.

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Ndiyo. Uko kwenye mawimbi sawa nasi. Wewe
huna hofu na ni jasiri sana. Ni ya kushangaza.

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Je, kuna kitu kingine unachotaka
kuwaambia hadhira ya AZK? Kitu chochote kabisa?

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Basi, AZK inahusu udhibiti wa habari tu, sivyo?

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Na ninatumai tu kwamba hakuna mtu mwingine
atakayejikuta katika hali ile ile kama yangu,

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kutokana na kazi zote nilizoweka mtandaoni.

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Hilo limewadhuru sana mimi na waathirika.

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Uchujaji umehama tu kwenye uwanja wa kidijitali.

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Na ni mbaya, mbaya, mbaya, kila kitu kinachoendelea.

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Ni kwamba, kwa ujumla, haiwezekani kufikiria.

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Mtu hataki kuzoea hisia na uzoefu hasi.

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Ndio, sawa, tovuti zako zote zimeondolewa tu mtandaoni.

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Kazi yote uliyofanya kwa ajili ya waathirika imeharibiwa
na kufutwa. Hiyo ni mbaya sana. Kwa bahati mbaya, ndiyo.

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Lakini inajitokeza; inakuwa maarifa ya umma, mpendwa Sabine.

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Na AZK yote inahakikisha hilo. Sawa?

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Ndio!