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Ngomhla we-15 kuNovemba 2025, kubanjwe inkomfa yabezindaba
eququzelelwe yi-MWGFD ngesihloko esithi

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"UMthetho woKhuselo lweMijelo uphantsi kohlolo" kufuphi
nePassau, kanye ecaleni komlambo omhle iDanube.

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Lo mthetho uphazamisa ngokungekho mthethweni ukuphelela komzimba
kunye namalungelo obuzali, ngokutsho

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kweQela eliSebenzayo loMthetho woKhuselo lweMfiva,
elinogqirha, izazinzulu kunye namagqwetha.

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Bafuna ukuba kupheliswe ngoko nangoko. I-Kla.TV
ibikho ngqo kwaye iyayixhasa le njongo

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ngokusasaza iintetho zomntu ngamnye, ezifanele ukubukelwa.

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Ngezantsi kwenkqubo, uza kufumana amaphepha anolwazi
ngalo mbandela kunye neendlela nawe onokuxhasa ngazo lo mba.

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Jonga ngezantsi igalelo likaNjing. Gqr. Paul Cullen
kumxholo othi 'Isimilo sezonyango kunye neengqwalasela zentlalo

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malunga nokugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kwesifo se-measles'.

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Isibhengezo sikaGqr. Weikl esiphathelele kuNjingalwazi Gqr. Paul
Cullen: Isithethi esilandelayo sikhona nathi

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ngqo, umhlobo wethu uNjingalwazi Gqr. Paul
Cullen. Ungugqirha nentatheli, wazalelwa eIreland.

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Wafunda ubugqirha e-University College Dublin waza
waphumelela isidanga sesibini kwi-biochemistry,

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egxile kwi-molecular biology, e-King's College London.

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Uyingcali yezifo zangaphakathi eneziqinisekiso ezongezelelweyo
kwizifo ezosulelayo, amayeza elebhu kunye nekhemistri yonyango.

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Ukhokela ilebhu enkulu yezonyango eMünster kwaye ukwafundisa
izifundo zonyango lwelebhu kwiyunivesithi yasekuhlaleni.

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Ukongeza kwimibhalo yenzululwazi engama-250,
ukwangumbhali weencwadi ezininzi zokufunda.

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Unomdla ngokukodwa kwimiba yokuziphatha kwimithi
nakwibiotechnology, yiyo loo nto intetho yakhe,

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esiyilangazeleleyo ngoku, eyibizile ngokuba: "Isimilo
sezonyango kunye neengqwalasela zentlalo malunga

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nokugonywa okunyanzelekileyo kwe-measles". Paul, yeyakho indawo.

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Nkqu NguProfesa Paul Cullen: Enkosi,
Ronny, kwaye enkosi ngokundivumela ukuba

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ndithathe inxaxheba kule simpoziyam namhlanje.

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Ewe, intetho yam ayithethi ngokwenene malunga nokugonywa
okumanyanzelekileyo kwe-measles, okanye nokugonywa ngokwako.

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Imalunga nento esifanele ukuyinyamezela,
into ekufuneka siyinyamezele

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njengezigulana, nento esingafanelanga ukuyinyamezela.

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Kwaye ngokwenene imalunga neziseko zezinto ezinjalo ezithathelwa
ingqalelo ngokwezimilo, kunye nokubaluleka kwazo eluntwini.

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Kwaye kuqala, masiqale
ngobudlelwane phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana.

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Akukho budlelwane eluntwini phakathi
kwabantu abangazaziyo obusondeleyo ngaphezu

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kobudlelwane phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana.

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Ugqirha ufunda izinto amaxesha
amaninzi ezingaziwa kwanumfazi wesigulana.

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Kwaye kufuneka azifumane, kuba kuphela ngoko
eya kukwazi ukunika unyango olufanelekileyo.

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Kwaye ifuna ubudlelwane obugcweleyo
lokuthembana, obungekho nakwezinye iindawo, kungekho

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kummeli, kungekho kumcebisi wentela, naphi na.

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Kwaye olu lwalamano ke lwenza, kwelinye icala, ukuba
isigulana sithathe ngokuba ugqirha usenza okungcono

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kakhulu kuso, kwaye ngokwenene usenza noko kuluncedo kuye.

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Kwaye seso isiseko, ukuba sithi njalo,
sonke esi senzo, olu lwalamano lukhethekileyo

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lokuthembana phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana.

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Kwaye ngenxa yesi sizathu, ingakumbi emva kweMfazwe yesiBini
yeHlabathi... – kwakukho, ewe, iziphoso ezininzi kwezonyango

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ngexesha leMfazwe yesiBini yeHlabathi, eJamani, kodwa naseJapan.

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Kwaye ngenxa yala tyala, imigaqo ethile
ebesisoloko ikho iye yamiselwa ngokusesikweni.

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Kwaye ndikhethe ezintathu apha ezithi, ubuncinci kum,
zenze isiseko, isiseko sokuziphatha semithi yanamhlanje.

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Umgaqo wokuqala ngumgaqo welungelo lokuphelela komzimba.

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Ngoko ke bathi, umzimba wam, isigqibo sam. Kwaye oko,
ewe, kuyinyani. Isigulana sinolawulo olupheleleyo phezu

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komzimba waso kunye nokuphelela kwaso ngokwasemzimbeni.

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Njengomfundi wezonyango, ndafunda ukuba akukho
nemvume yokukama iinwele zesigulana ukuba asifuni.

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Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo hayi ukutofa nantoni na
phantsi kwesikhumba, njengoko watshoyo uNjingalwazi Bhakdi.

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Kwaye lo ngumgaqo obaluleke kakhulu:
sinobukhosi phezu kwemizimba yethu!

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Umgaqo wesibini, kwaye yileyo ilungelo... – kusuka
kuphando olungenakuthethwa ngalo ngexesha leMfazwe

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yesibini yeHlabathi... kodwa hayi apho kuphela, nakwiiMelika.

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Kwakukho ulingo oludume kakhulu, ulingo lwaseTuskegee, apho
abantu abamnyama babosulelwa ngesifilisi bengazi

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kwaye benganyangwa ngokufanelekileyo ukuze
kubukelwe indlela isifo esihamba ngayo ngokwendalo.

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Zonke ezi mpazamo – ezazingeyonjongo, kodwa
zizifundo ezifunyenweyo – zabangela umgaqo wemvume enolwazi.

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Yintoni imvume enolwazi? Imvume enolwazi, xa umntu eyazi,
bubudlelwane obuthe ngqo nobobuqu phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana.

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Ugqirha kufuneka acacisele isigulana nge-mlomo
ngeenzuzo, iingozi kunye neziphumo

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ebezingalindelekanga. Emva koko angamnika into ebhaliweyo.

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Kodwa eyona nto ibalulekileyo yile ncazelo yomlomo, apho
isigulana sikwafumana ithuba lokubuza imibuzo kwaye,

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eneneni, ukuba ufunda umthetho waseJamani, sikwafumana
nexesha lokucingisisa ukuba siyayifuna na okanye hayi.

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Emva koko ke sifika kowesithathu, olusisigunyaziso esidala
kakhulu esasele sikho kwimihla yamandulo,

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umzekelo kumayeza kaHippocrates. Kwaye eso
sisigunyaziso esingundoqo: kuqala, musa ukwenzakalisa.

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– 'Primum nihil nocere' sisaci sesiLatini.
Ithetha ntoni? Kudla ngokungaqondwa kakuhle.

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Umzekelo, ngeKhowidi, kwathiwa: kufuneka sigonywe sonke
isizwe, ukuze kungabikho monakalo. Hayi, ayithethi lonto.

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Oku kuthetha ukuthi, kwisigulana ngasinye abajongene
naso, oogqirha kufuneka baqiniseke ukuba olu

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nyango luza kulwenza luluncedo ngaphezu kokulwenzakalisa.

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Kwaye ukuba awuqinisekanga ukuba akunjalo,
akufuneki unike unyango, nokuba unazo izizathu

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ezivakalayo zokukholelwa ukuba lunokunceda.

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Yiloo nto ethethwa yile migaqo,
kwaye sele ilityelwe ngandlel' ithile.

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AmaRoma ayenentshebe ethi: impilontle yesigulana ngowona
mthetho uphakamileyo – "salus aegroti supreма lex" ngesiLatini.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kugxilwe kwisigulana ngasinye,
hayi eluntwini okanye eluntwini lwasekuhlaleni.

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Eli lulwalamano lobuqu olusekelwe
kwintembeko, njengoko sisandul' ukuva.

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Kwaye ke, yonke into endiyithethileyo
isebenza ngakumbi xa isigulana singakwazi ukunika

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imvume, ingakumbi xa kuziintsana nabantwana.

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Kwaye isitofu sokugonya i-measles, ewe, sesabantwana.

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Ingxaki esinayo ngoku yeyokuba sinolwalamano olusondeleleneyo
kakhulu, nolubuthathaka phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana,

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kwaye ngoku urhulumente ungena aze aphazamise, masithi.

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Kwaye oku asikokucingela nje kuphela.

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Njengoko uninzi lwenu sele lwivile, ngomhla we-8 ku-Okthobha kulo
nyaka, iNkundla yoBulungisa yeFederal igwebe isithi ngexesha

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lobhubhane we-coronavirus, oogqirha abagonyayo
bakhululwe kwityala xa kukho umonakalo owenziwe

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yitofu; akanguye ugqirha onetyala, kodwa lulawiso.

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Kodwa oko kuthetha ukuthi – kufuneka
ucinge kancinci ngento ethethwa koko.

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Oogqirha – kwaye lo ngumgaqo obaluleke kakhulu oxhaswa
yimibutho yonke yezonyango. Lo ngumgaqo wenkululeko yonyango.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ukuba isigulana sinentembeko, ugqirha kufuneka
akwazi ukwenza okukwinto elungileyo kwesigulana, kwaye ukuba

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ugqirha usebenza njengomphathiswa wesigulana, ngoko ke
kufuneka akwazi ukugqiba ukuba asebenzise unyango aluthatha

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njengolulungileyo ngokwendalo, le nkululeko yokunyanga.

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Kodwa inkululeko yonyango, njengalo
naluphi na uhlobo lwenkululeko, ifuna uxanduva.

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Akukho nkululeko ngaphandle kwexanduva lezigqibo zam.

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Noko ke, ukuba andinatyala, ngoko ke
ngokuphambeneyo andinankululeko yokunyangwa.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kweli hlabathi litsha, ulwalamano lonyango
endizamile ukuluchaza alusekho phakathi kukagqirha

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nesigulana, kodwa ngesiquphe luse phakathi kukagqirha
norhulumente – oko kukuthi, phakathi kwegunya nomntu olawulwayo.

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Ngoko ke yiobudlelwane obahluke ngokupheleleyo.
Intembeko ayisekho, kwaye kunye nayo isiseko sentembeko

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esingumxhasi wobudlelwane phakathi kukagqirha nesigulana.

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Oku kundikhokelela kwizigqibo ezine.

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Ngokoluvo lwam, ubuncinci, ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo
kwe-measles ekweneni kumalunga nemiba yentlalo-zopolitiko

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neyokuziphatha engaphakathi kakhulu. Le yimiba ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Umbuzo wokuqala ngulo: Ngubani onolawulo phezu
kwemizimba yethu nemizimba yabantwana bethu?

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Ngaba sisigqiba thina eso, okanye urhulumente uyasigqiba?
Ingongoma yesibini yile: ugqirha unxulunyaniswe nabani?

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Ngaba ugqirha unetyala kwizigulana zakhe, njengoko kufanelekile,
okanye unetyala kurhulumente? Lo ngumbuzo osisiseko kakhulu.

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Okwesithathu, ukuba ugqirha ngulowo ke isandla
esandisiweyo sikarhulumente, intembeko ishiyeka phi?

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Loo nto ke ishiya jani ulwalamano lwezonyango?

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Ngaba simele nokucinga ukuba isigulana sinelungelo lokwala
ukwenza ingxelo kugqirha okanye kwamanye amagosa karhulumente?

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Kwaye unokucinga ukuba ubudlelwane obuqhelekileyo
abusakwenzeka, kuba xa ugqirha esebenza kwinkqubo enjalo,

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umntu kufuneka abuze lo mbuzo: Ngaba usengugqirha na?

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Okanye ungusonondaba nje wezonyango osebenzela
urhulumente? – nto leyo eyinto eyahluke kakhulu...

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Kwaye oko kuphelelisa iintetho zam. Enkosi kakhulu!

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Iiyure ezine zobuchule obuphezulu
ezishwankathelwe kwimizuzu engama-40.

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Bukela ingqokelela yeKla.TV yesimpoziyam ye-MWGFD
malunga 'noMthetho woKhuselo lweMpesheya' osaphononongwayo.

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Ufuna ukuzibandakanya na?

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Gqr. Weikl: (ukusuka kwingqokelela – ekugqibeleni) Ngoko ke,
ungayixhasa njani iphulo lethu lokurhoxisa

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uMthetho woKhuselo lweMijelo kunye
nemfuneko yokugonya enyanzelekileyo equlethwe kuwo?

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Ngoko ke, nceda ujonge iwebhusayithi, esele ifumaneka
ngoku, ebizwa ngokuba yi: https://masernschutzgesetz.mwgfd.org.

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Kwaye kule webhusayithi, uya kuhlala unolwazi
olutsha ngayo yonke imisebenzi yethu neziphumo zayo.

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Senze iflayara, kunye neqela lethu elisebenzayo, eninokuyisasaza
kwaye niyisebenzise ukuqokelela iisayini –

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ngokukhethekileyo kwiphulo kulo lonke
elaseJamani. Le flayara iyafumaneka ukuze ikhutshelwe.

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Ungakhuphela kwakhona amaphepha eqokelelo loTyikityo.
Kubalulekile ukuba iphepha loTyikityo lihlale liqulethe iimfuno

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zesicelo sethu, endizifake ngoku kwiPalamente yaseJamani.

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Ke thetha namaLungu ePalamente akho,
koosopolitiki! Kufuneka sifake uxinzelelo sisuka ezantsi!

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Thetha noogqirha bakho, thetha ngayo
nabahlobo bakho kunye noogxa bakho!

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Thetha neentsapho
ezichaphazelekileyo, kuzo zonke iintsapho ezisakhulayo!

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Oku kuchaphazela abantu abangama-700,000
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I-Kla.Tv isebenza ngokuzithandela kwaye isimahla ngokomgaqo.

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Umvuzo wethu opheleleyo ukusasazeni iinkqubo zethu.

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Enkosi kakhulu.