[Moderator: Yes, you've now brought a lot of things into being, you've just pulled them out of the ground.
You have a whole lot more to offer under the umbrella title "Freedom Chancellery".
Perhaps you could tell us a bit about what you have built up and with what aim?
What drives you in all this?
[Markus Bönig: Basically, it's quite simple: I'm a freedom-loving person, and the corona crisis has naturally
electrified me to the max and released a lot of energy.
Together with my team - there are now 14 of us - we have built a whole host of solutions to
defend ourselves against arbitrary government action.
Basically, these are all solutions that have solved practical problems that I have experienced myself.
And if you look a little deeper, you quickly realize that all these attacks by the state basically have a similar methodology.
It's always about legal problems. It's always about citizens having to defend themselves, not having a lawyer or
not being able or willing to pay one, and being able to defend themselves in a highly automated way.
And these defense systems, if you like, these tools, we have built a whole series of them and they can be
found under the umbrella term "Freiheitskanzlei.de".
I'm sure some of you are familiar with formats like the "post blocker".
I think it has become very, very well known, even throughout Germany.
Do you have any other examples? What other platforms have you set up?
Let me give you a little history of where it all came from.
During the Corona period, we built "Test-Express".
That was a way to help hundreds of thousands of people not have to visit a test center and still get a certificate.
Secondly, we have invented temporary vaccination certificates with "Liberation Express".
Then at some point we realized there was a way to get around the mask and invented "Mask-Free Express", because as
a hearing-impaired person you don't have to wear a mask.
And every adult is hard of hearing by definition. It was that simple!
So, exactly, those were the solutions in the Corona era.
You can already sense his rebellious nature.
And then we went on to apply this expertise from the coronavirus era to measles. This is
how the "measles vaccine blocker" was created.
So everything you need as a parent to defend yourself against this supposed vaccination obligation with full force,
without a lawyer, fully automatically. It worked like a charm.
We have now been able to help around 10,000 parents.
And based on this logic, more and more solutions were developed, a total of nine active solutions that are still in use today.
Fortunately, "Test-Express" has been switched off, the inability to vaccinate has also been resolved, the mask
is fortunately a thing of the past and may please always remain so - but there are new problems.
And if you look at where the Gordian knots actually lie, I always like to look at them, then one Gordian knot is the
public one, which is of course essential for war propaganda.
If they don't tell people how evil the Russians are and how stupid Putin is and so on, then it's
extremely difficult to get people to kill friendly Russians.
And that is precisely the realization, i.e. with full force on the public broadcasters.
We really made a difference with the "contribution blocker", which we later renamed "contribution stopper".
More on why you sometimes have to make such maneuvers in a moment.
Very daring maneuvers - so I think you're attacking topics where, let's say, powerful institutions are
behind it, which of course are also fighting back.
In other words, if I don't pay a GEZ contribution as a normal person, then I'll get a big slap on the wrist from the state.
If you offer an entire format to help thousands of people get rid of it, I can imagine that you'll quickly find yourself in
the firing line. Or did you still manage to get away with it?
[Markus Bönig: It's exactly as you say. I had 341 criminal charges during the corona period.
Fortunately, they were all dealt with by the public prosecutor's office because we never lied.
We have never done anything fraudulent.
[Not one! I never went to court over it, they were all settled beforehand.
And the background is that you have to be legally clever.
For example, you can't say I've seen the patient - and I haven't seen him at all. Then you're really screwed.
But if you certify things that are simply true, such as, for example, I don't even know if I'm vaccine-ready if no allergy
center has determined that, then we're not saying anything wrong.
This is annoying for those who really want to be vaccinated, but it helps and is legal. And the same goes for hearing loss.
So that is very, very central, very important.
We have of course experienced attacks, including from our users.
Certainly 100 of the 300,000 users have gotten into trouble.
The public prosecutor's office got in touch - that's definitely a forgery and shouldn't be there and all that sort of thing.
And we paid their legal fees, we boxed them out, always in cases where we had knowledge.
Subsequently, I have now heard of three or four cases that did not come forward and then had to bear the costs themselves.
But essentially, we have boxed out everyone who trusted us in any way. And that is our maxim.
We really stand by it, with our heads right out the window, including the public
prosecutor's office, which then works its way through.
[Markus Bönig: Yes. Absolutely. So you can't do it without lawyers.
I am a business graduate with dangerous legal half-knowledge.
No, that sounds worse than it is.
Of course, you also learn a lot there and have an idea of how the legal system works, but not as a lawyer.
Nevertheless, I have an eye for finding interesting gaps.
It's been like that all my life, because I read the sentences carefully and then just realize, wait a
minute, hard of hearing? What is actually hard of hearing?
And then you read about any loss of hearing performance ... ah, interesting!
That's every adult, because it doesn't say "severely hard of hearing". And then you have a gap.
And that's basically the methodology, how you recognize, hey, there's something going on, and then
automate it, with computer systems, programming, graphics, text, everything that's necessary.
So you never had to face any consequences - your accounts and so on.
In principle, you were able to continue normally here, or were there problems?
I have experienced everything. I've had four accounts terminated by four banks.
PayPal has withheld the payments. Stripe from the USA has stopped.
The Volksbank Lüneburger Heide, the Sparkasse Harburg Buxtehude, such small stalls,
Hamburger Sparkasse: Mr. Bönig, we have no problem with your political opinion, but find another bank.
The Pharmacists' and Doctors' Bank: come on, out with you. End of the road. So very rough.
And I can only say that you shouldn't let yourself get confused.
I had a house search that I was able to avert at the door, in a very funny way.
They just wanted to annoy me and arrived at 6 o'clock in the morning, with guns and stuff, so that's quite an experience!
And they wanted to squeeze a certain amount out of me: "Now, you pay this amount immediately, otherwise we'll search your house.
A completely contrived case that was easy to avert afterwards, but they are there for the time being.
Then I told them, no problem, give me the account number and we'll do it.
And then they just had to wait until 8 o'clock because the public prosecutor's office doesn't open until 8 o'clock.
In the meantime, I went back to bed and went back to sleep.
Then they came at 8 o'clock, we sat down at the computer, I transferred the amount to them and then they left the country.
And a week later I took legal action against it, and of course the whole amount had to be paid back.
But that's how you have to deal with it.
So don't get into a rush, be friendly and nice to the people there - and keep calm in the box.
So that means, in all this sabre-rattling that we're experiencing now, and you mentioned it, pushed by the media of course by
our public broadcasters - it's definitely worth fighting back.
But the threat of compulsory military service, which is now on the horizon, do you also have that in mind?
We already had this in mind in January and built a solution, the "war service blocker".
How can a young man simply refuse all military service?
And there was nothing ready-made. So you had to walk and write a letter yourself and send it to the right place.
There are a few places that have a few easy templates, but everything is on foot, not digital.
And then we just said, that's also possible with AI, we can fill it out fully automatically and so on, and
then we built a really cool solution with all the legal tips and tricks on how to do it.
You just pick the career center - what a name - of the Bundeswehr, career center.... Cannon fodder supply drawers.
And then we built it all in and got smarter and smarter.
Feedback from the many users came in from week to week.
The Bundeswehr wrote to me, for example, that you absolutely have to be mustered, otherwise it won't work. Bullshit!
You can simply say, people, lie down again.
Of course I'm not going to let you look at me. What do you want from me? And so on and so forth.
They take the piss out of you, and if you don't know what your rights are, you're really lost as a young man.
So now you get all this from us automatically, the appropriate complaint to the administrative court, the right answer
for the career center, and the Bundeswehr calls it an application for conscientious objection. That's a bad joke.
This is not an application for unemployment benefit, but a basic right.
And an announcement from me: not me. Over. Not a request.
I also don't apply to be a Protestant. I am or I am not.
It's something like that. That is a fundamental right, period.
And the "war service blocker" has been a great success.
We launched Easter, and in October alone we were able to give 3,000 young men a conscientious objection template.
And now the point is slowly being reached, since Easter, as I said, a lot of feedback has been coming in: I am recognized.
Others have ended up in court and the legal costs are zero.
That's what the law says. In other words, all you need is the complaint, which you get from us.
It's completely free of charge. If you want, you can leave us a thank you and that's it.
We don't want to earn a single cent from the war.
We have always built the solution in such a way that we don't ask for donations.
We never once took a donation, but we always said, here's a problem, here's a
solution and here's a small amount and you're in.
The "measles vaccine blocker" for just under 60 euros, that's it, you're done with it once.
The "contribution stopper", 55 euros, once what you pay each quarter anyway and then you get everything
you need to stand up to the broadcasting contribution.
The right objection, the right complaint, 240 pages with all the arguments, bang, hit them around the ears,
and that was the "contribution stopper", the "war service blocker" as a free solution.
Then we built "parking ticket reversals" to tick off every traffic offense, because there's just as much crap going on.
13 million parking tickets and fines, most of which are rip-offs. Fully automatic slapping on.
Or "Property Tax Express", where we saw that the property tax is completely unlawful, let the letters be fully
automated, tax office, district court, tax court and so on.
That's how all these solutions came about and it's currently really picking up speed because the
system underneath is a kind of Lego modular system.
This means that we can now add a new area of law very quickly.
We will start the pilot test of the "insurance terrier" in a week's time.
This will be a solution for defending yourself against health insurance companies if they refuse something.
The rehab application, the medication, the aid, no matter what.
In other words, our core machine is a machine that enables citizens to defend themselves fully automatically against an
arbitrary state, for the smallest amounts that anyone can afford.
Not a lawyer and still the right letters at the highest professional level so you can play this ping pong game.
At the end of the conference, I'd like to ask the audience what advice you would give them on camera about how
they can defend themselves, including against this impending war, what everyone can do personally.
I think you've already let the cat out of the bag to some extent.
But once again, from you to the audience: What can we do practically at home to defend ourselves against the war?
The most important thing about war is not to be against it, in quotation marks.
Not to get scared and think, oha, I don't want this and I don't want that.
But to stand up for peace out of strength and calm and to do everything that is necessary for peace
to remain and exist. That is a very important point.
In the coronavirus era, some people were afraid of being vaccinated and of the consequences of vaccination.
The others were afraid of losing their freedom.
And so everyone basically had their fears.
And now the war is about exactly that, some people are afraid of their freedom, others are afraid of being
killed, others are afraid that the evil Russians will attack them, which is of course also nonsense.
So we are always wrong to be afraid.
So please get completely out of the fear of whether a world war is coming or not. That is not the motivation.
The motivation is that all people are made equal by God, are equally valuable and none of
us has the right to kill anyone for any reason.
And from this perspective, everyone is now creatively challenged to be nice to their fellow Russians, to be nice to other
people, to say clearly that there is no reason to kill them.
And if everyone refuses - and that's what you do with the "war service blocker", for example - it's a quick number.
That's 500,000 young men every year who grow up as cannon fodder, roughly.
20 years ago we had a few more children a year.
We've slipped 20% thanks to corona.
So 500,000 from 20 years ago grow back every year.
And if 200,000 of them say, hey guys, go to war on your own, I'm out, it'll be hard to find any cannon fodder at all.
And that is the maximum ingenious announcement.
You like to play your shit there, I'm out, I'm not going to hold out my bones for some oligarchs, some billionaires,
to be traumatized and shot to pieces. That's one level.
And the second is to simply stand up for peace in person, via all social media, in personal conversations.
And then we have a lot of impact.
We are the light of this world and we can make a difference! So that's my message.
No excuses, you can do something concrete.
And don't tell me that big politics is so far away.
You can act - and mass action changes things.
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