WEBVTT 00:00.425 --> 00:05.717 We welcome Prof. Stefan Homburg to our live studio today. 00:05.717 --> 00:15.809 He was Director of the Institute of Public Finance at Leibniz Universität Hannover from 1997 to 2021. Welcome once again. 00:15.809 --> 00:23.543 Back in 2020, you were one of the first to point out the irregularities in the coronavirus narrative. 00:23.543 --> 00:28.668 It is now 2026 and various committees of inquiry are under way. 00:28.668 --> 00:35.092 There is a commission of inquiry in Germany and similar formats in other European countries. 00:35.092 --> 00:41.237 You have been involved in many commissions at home and abroad, have been there as an expert and have made contributions. 00:41.237 --> 00:44.045 Some of these meetings were open to the public, others were not. 00:44.045 --> 00:49.766 That was a little irritating, because a matter that affected such broad sections of the population - virtually 00:49.766 --> 00:53.437 everyone in the country - should also be discussed in public. 00:53.437 --> 00:57.213 That's why we've invited you today to find out about the status of the coronavirus recovery, 00:57.213 --> 00:59.284 which you might not see in front of the cameras. 00:59.284 --> 01:04.801 Perhaps you can briefly summarize (what) where we currently stand. 01:04.801 --> 01:08.117 Yes. Where are we at the moment? 01:08.117 --> 01:16.227 Well, you are right, there is a Bundestag commission of inquiry, of which I am a member as an expert. 01:16.227 --> 01:23.327 And this Enquete Commission, some of its meetings are not public and there are public hearings. 01:23.327 --> 01:28.307 All resolutions are made in closed sessions. 01:28.307 --> 01:33.727 And, yes, if you say you don't like it, I'm with you. 01:33.727 --> 01:40.716 But the majority simply do not want the process to be more transparent. 01:40.716 --> 01:48.237 So there are also things going on in the closed session that you don't want to show people. 01:48.237 --> 01:54.383 Or to put it another way, there are five parliamentary groups in the Enquete Commission. 01:54.383 --> 02:01.547 Of the five political groups, four have actively participated in the lockdown policy and are still 02:01.547 --> 02:06.534 defending it today, including the vaccination policy. 02:06.534 --> 02:11.507 And one group has a different opinion. 02:11.507 --> 02:21.791 And yes, as is so common in our democracy today, everything is simply enforced by majority vote, with a firewall, 02:21.791 --> 02:27.539 so that minority rights are basically only rudimentary. 02:27.539 --> 02:35.717 And here's an example: We once requested that we could also show graphics, just as you like to do. 02:35.717 --> 02:40.943 Because when people somehow say, yes, this and that happened, it's all so vague. 02:40.943 --> 02:48.210 If you look at a graph, somehow from the Federal Statistical Office or the RKI, then you can judge that much better. 02:48.210 --> 02:51.667 Four political groups said: "No, you can't show any graphics." 02:51.667 --> 02:54.304 Did you give any reasons for that? 02:54.304 --> 03:02.790 So originally it was said that it was not legally possible because of copyright infringement. 03:02.790 --> 03:09.090 I said: "We are not violating copyright law if we, as the Bundestag, as the highest constitutional body, 03:09.090 --> 03:15.090 show graphics from the federal authority Destatis (Federal Statistical Office) or the RKI." 03:15.090 --> 03:18.343 I think they then had it checked for two months. 03:18.343 --> 03:24.437 And then they said: "Yes, you're right, let's just vote on whether graphics can be shown." 03:24.437 --> 03:29.143 Zack - firewall, four factions, no, must not be shown. 03:29.143 --> 03:31.877 And that is a major obstacle to enlightenment. 03:31.877 --> 03:38.232 Because you can't get it across as well as in a real reappraisal with just arms and legs and a 03:38.232 --> 03:41.743 very short speaking time in five-minute slots. 03:41.743 --> 03:46.517 Yes, that's what your program is all about, where you show a lot of graphics. 03:46.517 --> 03:51.837 They are very instructive , so at this point I can only recommend your entire channel. 03:51.837 --> 03:57.277 They also always quote the sources. This, too, is always criminally omitted in the so-called quality media. 03:57.277 --> 04:01.140 I recently read another review and then things are just put out there. 04:01.140 --> 04:06.862 And in the end they don't give any sources either. So it's always a tactic. 04:06.862 --> 04:13.010 Is that also the case in the Enquete Commission, where you are ultimately driven into a corner, so to speak, by arguments? 04:13.010 --> 04:17.967 No, the Enquete Commission does not argue at all. 04:17.967 --> 04:22.174 So we haven't discussed it for a second. 04:22.174 --> 04:28.639 There is no discussion, but the closed meeting is about procedural issues. 04:28.639 --> 04:34.143 When do we make which appointments? Which experts will be invited? 04:34.143 --> 04:39.463 How long may each group speak? That concludes it. 04:39.463 --> 04:43.543 And then comes the hearing. I don't know if anyone has seen this before. 04:43.543 --> 04:54.103 The hearing works in such a way that the expert invited by parliamentary group XY says something and is then questioned. 04:54.103 --> 05:03.090 And then the next group asks. Always in 5-minute slots with a stopwatch hanging ostentatiously under the ceiling. 05:03.090 --> 05:07.357 And yes, after three hours the session is over. 05:07.357 --> 05:10.027 I recently made an attempt to discuss this. 05:10.027 --> 05:18.743 I have written an e-mail to all members of the Enquete Commission with a substantive point. 05:18.743 --> 05:24.170 And then another professor from a different group also replied to me. 05:24.170 --> 05:29.397 This was the first approach to a substantive discussion. 05:29.397 --> 05:36.014 And then the Chairwoman, Ms. Hoppermann, announced via the Bundestag distribution list that it was 05:36.014 --> 05:40.743 undesirable to discuss via this e-mail distribution list. 05:40.743 --> 05:44.722 In other words, we can't discuss it in the meeting, and we're not supposed to discuss it 05:44.722 --> 05:47.437 by email either - which I ignore, of course. 05:47.437 --> 05:55.788 But no exchange is desired. The matter is too clear for that. 05:55.788 --> 06:01.048 You can only find the truth by discussing things and relating something to yourself, to the other person. 06:01.048 --> 06:04.424 Everyone presents their opinion, which they already had beforehand, and leaves with their opinion. 06:04.424 --> 06:08.183 Yes. It's completely unproductive. 06:08.183 --> 06:14.239 Now there are people who said at the beginning: "Yes, this Enquete Commission, it's no good at all!" 06:14.239 --> 06:20.343 And as far as, let's say, discussions are concerned, that's absolutely right. 06:20.343 --> 06:27.301 Nevertheless, I think that the Enquete Commission, together with the RKI files that were exposed at the time, is 06:27.301 --> 06:31.957 basically the most important element of the clarification. 06:31.957 --> 06:38.039 When former Federal Minister Spahn says in the hearing that vaccination was never 06:38.039 --> 06:42.930 intended to protect others, that was never the aim. 06:42.930 --> 06:48.734 So many people reacted with such shock and then wrote me letters. 06:48.734 --> 06:57.068 "It was never the aim, not even of the WHO, when developing vaccines, to protect third parties from infection. 06:57.068 --> 07:01.410 That is crystal clear. Vaccination makes a difference, you protect yourself and others. 07:01.410 --> 07:07.730 Those who are vaccinated or have recovered will no longer experience contact restrictions and curfews." 07:07.730 --> 07:12.490 In retrospect, Spahn acts as if external protection was never the goal. 07:12.490 --> 07:21.075 But this facility-based compulsory vaccination, the compulsory vaccination for soldiers, this 2G and 3G rule, i.e. 07:21.075 --> 07:29.848 this exclusion of unvaccinated people, was all based on the assertion that vaccination protects others. 07:29.848 --> 07:37.068 And anyone who doesn't get vaccinated doesn't have this external protection, is basically an asocial element, or 07:37.068 --> 07:42.556 as one prime minister put it so well, is out of society. 07:42.556 --> 07:45.680 And that's a very big eye-opener. 07:45.680 --> 07:52.248 Or Prof. Scheibenbogen, Carmen Scheibenbogen, who is one of the fiercest advocates of 07:52.248 --> 07:57.063 vaccination, was asked about the spike protein. 07:57.063 --> 08:06.343 The spike protein in corona is the one that settles on the mucous membrane and somehow makes you ill. 08:06.343 --> 08:11.850 And with the vaccination, you have it injected into your body - in other words, the instructions. 08:11.850 --> 08:18.665 And she was asked about this, and then she said: "Yes, the spike protein, that's dangerous. 08:18.665 --> 08:24.863 And unfortunately, this remains in the body longer after the vaccination than we thought." 08:24.863 --> 08:29.663 That's all, of course, it's all on the Bundestag server, yes. 08:29.663 --> 08:36.809 This is all properly documented and, in my view, invaluable. 08:36.809 --> 08:43.929 Last example: Mr. Drosten had said in March 2020 that Corona is a cold, you won't even notice it. 08:43.929 --> 08:50.783 A week later, he said we would see scenes like those from movies - so many people dying. 08:50.783 --> 08:58.985 I then asked him on what data he based this change of opinion in one week. 08:58.985 --> 09:06.276 He couldn't answer it. He then said, "Your questions are too confusing and too complex," although I really don't 09:06.276 --> 09:10.303 speak in a way that is perceived as confusing and complex. 09:10.303 --> 09:18.479 So everyone has seen - basically - Drosten had no substantive arguments at all for his change of opinion, 09:18.479 --> 09:25.903 but has said this way and that about masks, tests, vaccinations and the danger of the virus. 09:25.903 --> 09:31.477 You can find an opinion and a counter-opinion on the Internet for every issue he raises. 09:31.477 --> 09:38.661 Yes. That's the reappraisal in Germany now, but it's good to hear you say that it does bring something, in the long 09:38.661 --> 09:42.727 run, that they then betray themselves through their own words. 09:42.727 --> 09:43.487 Yes. 09:43.487 --> 09:45.191 What is it like in other European countries? 09:45.191 --> 09:50.481 You've also been to Austria, Switzerland and Italy. Is it different there? 09:50.481 --> 09:59.597 You have similar mechanisms everywhere, only sometimes some countries are luckier than others. 09:59.597 --> 10:02.954 So we've just been incredibly lucky in Germany. 10:02.954 --> 10:13.701 We are number one worldwide because an employee of the RKI took heart and gave us 10 gigabytes of 10:13.701 --> 10:21.757 internal material that should never see the light of day. 10:21.757 --> 10:33.903 Then you read that the RKI wanted to sue the Ministry of Health because they didn't think all this scaremongering made sense. 10:33.903 --> 10:42.783 You can see how the RKI is shocked internally about vaccine damage, especially at AstraZeneca. 10:42.783 --> 10:49.637 Eight weeks later, Mr. Spahn issues a press release stating that he has been vaccinated by AstraZeneca. 10:49.637 --> 10:54.077 Of course, nobody believes that. So we're ahead of the game. 10:54.077 --> 10:58.307 And at number two, I would clearly put the USA. 10:58.307 --> 11:08.903 So the USA has also achieved an incredible amount through its technique of Senate hearings, which are also largely public. 11:08.903 --> 11:17.707 At the moment, the issue is that Mr. Fauci and his health administration have partly falsified, but above all 11:17.707 --> 11:26.437 destroyed and suppressed documents and have not answered requests under the Freedom of Information Act. 11:26.437 --> 11:32.103 As a result, we now have the first indictment from a public prosecutor. 11:32.103 --> 11:37.063 So things are progressing slowly and slowly, step by step. 11:37.063 --> 11:43.090 But think back to 1945, when not everything was clear in 1946. 11:43.090 --> 11:51.303 First of all, nothing happened in Germany for 20 years. And then things slowly picked up speed. 11:51.303 --> 11:54.957 And people were still being sentenced 50 or 60 years later. 11:54.957 --> 12:06.870 Yes. And do you assume that the material that is now coming to the public will lead to convictions later? 12:06.870 --> 12:14.133 Well, it's difficult to say in Germany, because we - I think we have a very clear disadvantage as Germany, because unlike 12:14.133 --> 12:19.236 practically in the rest of the civilized world, we have this obligation of the public 12:19.236 --> 12:23.406 prosecutor's office to follow instructions. 12:23.406 --> 12:31.220 It is well known that the European Court of Justice said at some point that German public prosecutors are not allowed to issue 12:31.220 --> 12:39.782 European arrest warrants because they are not independent as in other countries, but are subject to political instructions. 12:39.782 --> 12:45.113 It is quite clear that as long as there is no political change in Germany, the 12:45.113 --> 12:49.992 instruction will be that no one will be charged at all. 12:49.992 --> 12:54.903 In the event of a political change, where of course we don't know whether this will ever 12:54.903 --> 12:58.598 happen, the situation could change fundamentally. 12:58.598 --> 13:05.670 That's what Mr. Blome, the former Spiegel author, said so well. 13:05.670 --> 13:15.620 He said on television - against the background that he said at the time: "I wish unvaccinated people all kinds of disadvantages." 13:15.620 --> 13:24.783 And he said that if there was a change of government, even he could suddenly be persecuted for what he said. 13:24.783 --> 13:34.840 And that is why he would prefer the firewall parties to remain in power, even if they are running our country into the ground. 13:34.840 --> 13:39.008 Let's come back to these other criminal machinations that are in the background. 13:39.008 --> 13:45.802 You recently reported in a few programs about what interesting things came out of the 13:45.802 --> 13:50.320 Epstein Files as "by-catch", as you called it. 13:50.320 --> 13:58.349 Among other things, it showed that he had worked with Bill Gates back in 2011 to harness the WHO for 13:58.349 --> 14:02.870 their financial juggling, if you want to put it nicely. 14:02.870 --> 14:11.154 Well, not quite, but the funny thing is that from 2011, as you rightly say, they started talking about pandemics 14:11.154 --> 14:20.088 and vaccinations and offshore vaccine financing companies and all sorts of things in purely economic terms. 14:20.088 --> 14:27.636 And then years later you find an e-mail where Epstein says that we now also have to get the WHO on board. 14:27.636 --> 14:35.129 Yes, just like now with our so-called 2020 pandemic, doctors are basically largely left out in the cold. 14:35.129 --> 14:40.814 The whole thing is a business for economists, lawyers, psychologists and sociologists. 14:40.814 --> 14:49.179 And they basically spent years, Gates and Epstein, thinking about how to make money from pandemics. 14:49.179 --> 14:59.136 Then we had a big conference in 2015 with JP Morgan, which was the biggest bank in the world at the time. 14:59.136 --> 15:09.239 For example, the president of the World Bank, the head of JP Morgan and all sorts of people, 15:09.239 --> 15:16.132 except doctors, spoke about pandemic preparedness. 15:16.132 --> 15:24.199 And from the further course of events, there is a strong suspicion that incredible financial incentives 15:24.199 --> 15:29.144 have been created for a pandemic to really break out. 15:29.144 --> 15:36.908 And the nice thing was that because the WHO was practically completely under control financially, they 15:36.908 --> 15:41.313 were able to tell the WHO in 2009 to declare swine flu. 15:41.313 --> 15:49.324 Unfortunately, that was a shot in the arm. And in 2020, the WHO was told to declare a pandemic. 15:49.324 --> 15:59.740 And that really hit the spot, but from a medical point of view it was similar to 2009. 15:59.740 --> 16:09.291 For example, we have a mortality rate in Germany in 2020 that lies between 2018 and 2019. 16:09.291 --> 16:15.962 So in 2018 we had a strong flu epidemic, relatively high mortality. Very low in 2019. 16:15.962 --> 16:22.688 2020 in between - nobody would think that anything bad had happened. 16:22.688 --> 16:28.489 We will only see an increase in the number of deaths in the vaccination years 2021 and 2022. 16:28.489 --> 16:36.440 Of course, many people will immediately think, yes, but only because the schools were closed and we were in lockdown. 16:36.440 --> 16:46.122 But there is also a study from the top journal Lancet, on how mortality has developed in all European 16:46.122 --> 16:52.674 countries during this so-called pandemic from 2020 to 2023. 16:52.674 --> 17:01.684 And the result, as was to be expected, was that Sweden came out on top - because it was the only country to stick to what was 17:01.684 --> 17:07.884 written in textbooks, guidelines and directives, while all the others basically caused 17:07.884 --> 17:12.761 collateral damage by pursuing the wrong policies. 17:12.761 --> 17:14.689 So again, that I understand this correctly. 17:14.689 --> 17:22.071 There are no doctors sitting there who specialize in clinical pictures, courses of disease, biological processes, but 17:22.071 --> 17:29.676 people who are primarily interested in how to market this to the public and others who want to make money from it. 17:29.676 --> 17:33.795 Yes, a good example is the following. 17:33.795 --> 17:42.028 All the textbooks say that when a really dangerous pandemic comes, even a layperson can see that you have to 17:42.028 --> 17:47.540 reassure people so that there is no collateral damage. 17:47.540 --> 17:52.048 So what did the then Federal Minister of the Interior Seehofer do? 17:52.048 --> 18:02.960 In March 2020, he put together a special group with the task of writing a shock paper. This was then also leaked. 18:02.960 --> 18:09.886 It says, for example, that it is important to make children aware that if they do not wash their hands, they will 18:09.886 --> 18:14.420 infect their parents, who will then suffocate in agony at home. 18:14.420 --> 18:18.400 At home, because all the clinics are already overcrowded. 18:18.400 --> 18:22.580 That's how people were briefed via the press. 18:22.580 --> 18:27.700 So, and now you ask, who sat, which doctors sat on this commission? 18:27.700 --> 18:35.779 The head of the commission was a German studies doctoral student, then there was a sociologist and, I'm sorry 18:35.779 --> 18:41.312 to say, a few economists. Not a single medical doctor. 18:41.312 --> 18:48.517 At the same time, Stefan Kohn, the official responsible for crises at the Federal Ministry of the Interior, who 18:48.517 --> 18:56.374 had 20 years of experience, wrote a paper saying that lockdowns, school closures and so on were excessive. 18:56.374 --> 19:00.850 As a result, Seehofer immediately suspended and then dismissed him. 19:00.850 --> 19:10.826 He was dismissed as a civil servant for life because he basically said what almost everyone now considers to be true, at least off 19:10.826 --> 19:17.248 the record, namely that the measures were terribly excessive. 19:17.248 --> 19:20.476 Then why do such things have no legal consequences? 19:20.476 --> 19:23.135 So it is an abuse of office, for example by Seehofer. 19:23.135 --> 19:27.055 He is authorized to do so, but it was not justified. 19:27.055 --> 19:30.849 It was also an abuse of power within the WHO. 19:30.849 --> 19:37.016 In other words, just because they have the financial upper hand, they are not allowed to use it to carry out 19:37.016 --> 19:40.296 their transactions, so to speak. It was insider trading. 19:40.296 --> 19:49.871 You also reported that Bill Gates is investing heavily in this completely run-down company BioNTech - 55 million, if I remember 19:49.871 --> 19:57.410 correctly - and then selling it off at a profit in 2021 after the hype is over, and then mocking the 19:57.410 --> 20:02.041 other investors for holding such a piece of junk. 20:02.041 --> 20:08.243 And when things like this come out, or what you just said, this panic paper, is it only because of this 20:08.243 --> 20:13.251 public prosecutor's office, which is bound by instructions, that nothing happens there? 20:13.251 --> 20:17.044 No, there are several. For example, you can't do anything about the WHO. 20:17.044 --> 20:24.226 It is based in Geneva and has immunity for everything it does. 20:24.226 --> 20:27.434 In other words, God knows what they could do. 20:27.434 --> 20:32.004 Even if everything is crystal clear, you can't do anything about them. 20:32.004 --> 20:37.484 This is similar to the exemption from liability for vaccine manufacturers. 20:37.484 --> 20:46.262 This means that there is basically only one option with the WHO, which Trump has used, namely to withdraw from it. 20:46.262 --> 20:55.320 It is true, as you say, that the WHO is basically an instrument of insider trading. 20:55.320 --> 21:03.620 If you know the WHO, you know which diseases will be declared next, which pandemics and so on, and you can 21:03.620 --> 21:09.133 prepare for them by making purchases and buying companies. 21:09.133 --> 21:14.196 But insider trading is still prohibited under international criminal law. 21:14.196 --> 21:19.644 No, but the WHO is immune under Swiss law. 21:19.644 --> 21:25.787 And then you would have to send soldiers to Switzerland somehow, which we don't want. 21:25.787 --> 21:31.203 No, Switzerland has given them immunity. That's nothing unique, by the way. 21:31.203 --> 21:42.790 This European stability mechanism, which serves to bail out bankrupt states, also has such immunity. 21:42.790 --> 21:50.156 And as soon as I see a legal institution being given immunity in a way that no federal ministry or 21:50.156 --> 21:55.286 chancellery has, I become suspicious and think to myself. 21:55.286 --> 22:04.140 Well, rightly so. So, the question for me is also, is this mainly a business model so that the super-rich can 22:04.140 --> 22:09.440 enrich themselves even more? Or is there more to it than that? 22:09.440 --> 22:11.451 I don't know. 22:11.451 --> 22:19.859 I am often asked when I have shown someone figures and graphs and they are completely convinced that this lockdown and 22:19.859 --> 22:29.129 vaccination policy was wrong, I end up being asked the question, what motive did they have for doing it? 22:29.129 --> 22:33.875 And then I always have to say, firstly, I don't know. And secondly, what kind of question. 22:33.875 --> 22:38.560 Who asks what motive Mao, Stalin or Pol Pot had? 22:38.560 --> 22:43.338 We don't know. It could be greed, domination, sadism. 22:43.338 --> 22:52.048 But it doesn't matter. As long as the deeds are clear, you can assess them and, in the best case, bring charges. 22:52.048 --> 22:55.860 Yes. So that would be the next question. 22:55.860 --> 22:59.278 So why are these crimes not punished? 22:59.278 --> 23:02.205 Yes, it's difficult. So for several reasons. 23:02.205 --> 23:06.702 One point is that the public prosecutor's office is bound by instructions. 23:06.702 --> 23:14.273 But there is something even more difficult. The main problem is that too many people have taken part. 23:14.273 --> 23:22.268 So, they can always prosecute criminals if there are few criminals and many non-criminals. 23:22.268 --> 23:30.780 The non-criminals are in the vast majority, and that is now somehow the case with assault, theft and so on, of course. 23:30.780 --> 23:35.445 But if you think about it, who has been involved here during the coronavirus pandemic? 23:35.445 --> 23:39.937 It wasn't just the Minister Presidents and the Federal Chancellor. 23:39.937 --> 23:49.528 Basically every university president, every principal, every hospital director has taken part. 23:49.528 --> 23:57.597 Basically, almost every restaurant operator who has basically allowed himself to be used as a block guard and then told guests 23:57.597 --> 24:02.888 that if you are not triple vaccinated, you will not come in here. 24:02.888 --> 24:10.088 In other words, there are so many people who now basically have a guilty conscience and also have 24:10.088 --> 24:14.685 a strong interest in this simply being forgotten. 24:14.685 --> 24:24.105 It's similar to 1945, when there were trials, but they were conducted by the Allies and not by us. 24:24.105 --> 24:32.602 So the Nuremberg trials. And that makes the whole thing difficult, so that only in individual cases, 24:32.602 --> 24:37.696 with really extreme people, is a conviction plausible. 24:37.696 --> 24:43.288 The Fauci, Anthony Fauci, for example, is very interesting. 24:43.288 --> 24:47.893 Now his closest employee has been charged. 24:47.893 --> 24:54.454 For him, the statute of limitations will expire in ten days. 24:54.454 --> 25:01.696 And nobody knows how it works. And for new deeds. 25:01.696 --> 25:11.043 After all, he had been pardoned by both, the Fauci, in a unique and unprecedented way that must 25:11.043 --> 25:16.612 ring alarm bells for anyone with an ounce of sense. 25:16.612 --> 25:27.726 Namely, Biden has pardoned Fauci as the world's number one of this fake pandemic, for all sorts of deeds. 25:27.726 --> 25:31.265 So not specifically for everything he did. 25:31.265 --> 25:33.218 Where he wasn't even convicted yet. 25:33.218 --> 25:37.475 Yes, wasn't even charged yet. There wasn't even a preliminary investigation. 25:37.475 --> 25:45.295 Biden pardoned him, but only until the day Biden left office. 25:45.295 --> 25:53.050 And now it would be possible to charge Fauci with perjury, with new offenses, because he testified falsely. 25:53.050 --> 26:01.903 Or, in the best-case scenario, it is discovered that Biden's pardon only comes from a signature machine and is invalid. 26:01.903 --> 26:05.795 But that's legally controversial and I'm not involved. 26:05.795 --> 26:14.090 Yes. This inclusion of several perpetrators is interesting, because the - here we actually come back to this Epstein network, 26:14.090 --> 26:19.199 which is obviously very typical there, that they turn the former victims into 26:19.199 --> 26:22.940 perpetrators and thus make their network impenetrable. 26:22.940 --> 26:24.806 There are then individuals who can break out. 26:24.806 --> 26:30.117 We've brought that up in many programs about all this ritual abuse. And it's very reminiscent of that. 26:30.117 --> 26:35.412 It's actually interesting that this man is also involved in these things, because that's a certain 26:35.412 --> 26:38.600 way of thinking, how you make yourself unassailable. 26:38.600 --> 26:43.103 Yes, it is a pattern. It's basically the actions of the powerful. 26:43.103 --> 26:51.440 If you ask yourself, why does the US law say Trump has to release all the Epstein files, with only the victims' names 26:51.440 --> 27:00.871 blacked out, and then you see that it's all perpetrators' names, so almost all the perpetrators' names are blacked out. 27:00.871 --> 27:08.195 Then you can see that there is an "esprit de corps" , so they stick together and cover for each other. 27:08.195 --> 27:19.533 So that only individual people in Norway or Prince Andrew in the UK or this Ms. 27:19.533 --> 27:28.128 Sigl-Glöckner from the SPD suddenly appear unblackened. 27:28.128 --> 27:36.785 While most of the worst correspondence is simply unknown. 27:36.785 --> 27:43.670 What would you say, in summary, what can the person on the street do, what can you do, 27:43.670 --> 27:48.113 if it's all so clumsy, legally unassailable? 27:48.113 --> 27:53.162 Only individual offenders, some insignificant people might be arrested or dragged before the press. 27:53.162 --> 27:59.791 They are also in the hands of the powerful. What do you do then? 27:59.791 --> 28:01.900 So you shouldn't be so pessimistic. 28:01.900 --> 28:10.027 So, a lot has happened in the last six years. A lot of people have woken up. 28:10.027 --> 28:23.225 In my view, it is very important to be aware of manipulation by governments and their media. So in particular the ÖRR . 28:23.225 --> 28:30.063 Because these manipulations: By manipulations, I specifically mean that they published 28:30.063 --> 28:36.078 PCR figures in 2020 that never existed before. 28:36.078 --> 28:41.997 Internally, the RKI has written that the hospitals are severely understaffed. 28:41.997 --> 28:50.279 But to the outside world they said these PCR figures are so bad, we have to keep schools and stores closed, otherwise there will 28:50.279 --> 28:56.250 be exponential growth. So people have been totally manipulated. 28:56.250 --> 29:05.925 What is interesting now is the spring of 2022, when this 7-day incidence was 50 times higher than during the lockdown. 29:05.925 --> 29:10.181 But there was no lockdown and the whole thing didn't make the news. Why? 29:10.181 --> 29:15.888 Because the war in Ukraine had just broken out and they had other things to do. 29:15.888 --> 29:19.925 So the whole thing was purely a media fiction. 29:19.925 --> 29:24.261 And my point is that there are many of these media fictions. 29:24.261 --> 29:29.223 And the more people who are mentally prepared for this, the better. 29:29.223 --> 29:36.371 After all, a government can only implement such a course if most people go along with it. 29:36.371 --> 29:45.448 And the issue of manipulation is not peculiar to corona, but we have the same with climate, we also have 29:45.448 --> 29:51.436 the same with war and these are of course major dangers. 29:51.436 --> 30:00.147 If I may say so, climate too, we're here in Lower Saxony, but it's like this all over Germany, I looked at my 30:00.147 --> 30:05.751 display on Monday and saw sunshine forecast for the whole week. 30:05.751 --> 30:10.363 In the past, I would have just been happy about it. 30:10.363 --> 30:18.752 But because I'm a quick thinker, I thought, oh boy, the drought propaganda will be back this week. 30:18.752 --> 30:26.271 And yesterday, weather before eight, Germany predominantly gray-brown. 30:26.271 --> 30:32.317 Here comes the drought again. And no matter how green it is outside. 30:32.317 --> 30:41.593 Last year they took the first quarter and said that the first quarter is always right because it's the driest in living memory. 30:41.593 --> 30:47.349 There was the Tagesschau, Lake Constance running dry and so on. 30:47.349 --> 30:53.661 Not a word this year in the first quarter because it rained a lot. 30:53.661 --> 31:02.076 But now it has rained less in April and last night on April 30 they come with the news of drought again. 31:02.076 --> 31:06.272 Simply to enforce this climate ideology. 31:06.272 --> 31:10.962 Basically, the only thing more dangerous is anything to do with wars. 31:10.962 --> 31:17.834 Wherever it is said that we are under total threat and must now rearm, rearm, rearm. 31:17.834 --> 31:26.496 According to the SIPRI, Germany is now number four in the world in terms of military spending. 31:26.496 --> 31:28.406 Absolute or relative? 31:28.406 --> 31:34.837 Absolutely. So in terms of military spending, we are only topped by the USA, China and Russia. 31:34.837 --> 31:42.740 And this despite the fact that we are surrounded by friendly and militarily very strong states, i.e. Scandinavia, 31:42.740 --> 31:47.629 Poland and so on, France, none of whom want to attack us. 31:47.629 --> 31:54.245 Nevertheless, the narrative that Russia wants to attack us is simply being maintained. 31:54.245 --> 32:01.815 Russia, which has been trying for four years to conquer the Donbass - an area with the economic importance of roughly the 32:01.815 --> 32:08.696 Saarland - and has failed to do so for four years, is then told that yes, they will also overrun the remaining 32:08.696 --> 32:15.777 thousand kilometers of Ukraine and then they will overrun Poland and then they will be on our border. 32:15.777 --> 32:22.561 Yes, that's such a very strange narrative, that on the one hand they say, yes, the Russians are too weak to ... 32:22.561 --> 32:23.461 Always alternating, yes. 32:23.461 --> 32:27.565 Always alternating. And that's how it seems to me, then there's a pandemic, then there's war, then 32:27.565 --> 32:29.985 there's another financial crisis, then there's ... 32:29.985 --> 32:39.071 Absolutely, it's coming off. And it's so hypocritical when our government members somehow say, yes, we're having a 32:39.071 --> 32:48.342 really hard time, nobody has experienced so many crises in a row, but it's basically all of our own doing. 32:48.342 --> 32:54.198 Next, as you indirectly mentioned in your last sentence, comes the financial crisis, this time 32:54.198 --> 32:58.751 not with Greece, but with Germany at the center. 33:00.328 --> 33:02.950 So, you're arguing that you should ... 33:02.950 --> 33:06.377 ... talks a lot, writes a lot, e-mails a lot. 33:06.377 --> 33:14.715 I think the WhatsApp status is a very good tool, even if some people say it's dangerous. 33:14.715 --> 33:20.882 Because your programs, for example, are only watched by people who already have a certain level of open-mindedness. 33:20.882 --> 33:26.453 The others say, no, I don't want to watch it, I only watch Tagesschau and Heute. 33:26.453 --> 33:32.960 If you put a graphic or something like that or an insight in your WhatsApp status, people who 33:32.960 --> 33:37.581 don't actually want to see it will see it too. 33:37.581 --> 33:46.283 So, the electrician who was at your house the other day, your daughter's teacher, all the people you have in your 33:46.283 --> 33:54.439 contact list see something like this, which is why it's basically a very effective method of dissemination. 33:54.439 --> 33:59.627 However, I have to say that some people also say that this would have led to your dismissal. 33:59.627 --> 34:02.262 So you also have to think about who will see it. 34:02.262 --> 34:07.153 Yes. But of course you're also the sort, as we've noticed, you're not intimidated by that. 34:07.153 --> 34:13.949 So thank you very much for the good work you do with your own channel, for always stepping into the breach and 34:13.949 --> 34:20.050 giving people reliable information that can be passed on without having to hang any propaganda on it! 34:20.050 --> 34:23.659 The figures, data and graphics speak for themselves. 34:23.659 --> 34:25.168 And right, yes. 34:25.168 --> 34:28.166 Then thank you very much for that and thank you very much for this interview! 34:28.166 --> 34:30.718 Thank you too! 34:30.718 --> 34:37.699 Give your fellow human beings the chance to form their own opinion by spreading our news.