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Rockefeller was the financier; Brzezinski was the academic.

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That was the ideology that David Rockefeller, in
particular, embraced in order to essentially take the world's

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resources out of the hands of nation-states and the people.

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The Trilateral Commission has been largely inactive—at
least in the public eye—for 45 years, but now they are

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speaking out again to, so to speak, reap the rewards.

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They have established a monetary system; they have set up
their scientific dictatorship using AI and the entire modern

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surveillance infrastructure that has been installed worldwide.

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So they're ready to strike—especially with all
these data centers being built all over our country.

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This is about controlling the entire world.

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Today I am joined by a renowned author who has
been educating the public for decades about the

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Trilateral Commission and the coming technocracy.

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You've been a guest on Kla.tv several times before, and
I'm very happy to have you back with us, Patrick Wood.

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Thank you for having me back.

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It's been a long time.

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That’s right, and a lot has happened in the meantime—one of which
is that you published this book, *The Last Betrayal: A Cautionary

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Tale—How Technocracy Destroyed America*. You’re a co-author.

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There are two authors, right? You and Courtenay Turner.

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And you just published it recently—I
think at the beginning of the year?

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It was released on November 4, so it's only
been on the market for two or three months.

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Wonderful.

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Yes, it's a really good read.

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It's nice that it's so short and to the point.

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Essentially, it summarizes what happened during Trump's first
year in office and provides insight into the

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historical origins and ideologies behind
current developments here in the United States.

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So the first question I'd like to ask you is:

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This book deals with the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew
Brzezinski's book *The Technotronic Era*, and related topics.

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Who founded the Trilateral
Commission, and what was or is its main goal?

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Those were Zbigniew Brzeziński and David Rockefeller.

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Rockefeller was the financier.

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Brzezinski was the academic.

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It's kind of like "Beauty and the Beast," so to speak.

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And Brzezinski wrote this book while he was a
professor of political science at Columbia University.

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The title of his book was "Between Two
Ages: America's Role in the Technotronic Age."

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He basically used the word
"technotronic" instead of "technocratic."

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So, in this context, I would consider both terms to be synonyms.

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But that was the ideology that David Rockefeller, in
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resources out of the hands of nation-states and the people.

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It has been a very long campaign—obviously 50 years or more—but
we are seeing a consolidation, a massive pooling of resources

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from around the world into stronger hands, so to speak, no
longer in the hands of states, nation-states, or individuals.

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Hmm, that's interesting.

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And when we talk about this consolidation , this whole situation
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Venezuela's oil, the threats to take over Greenland and Canada…

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Is this moving in the direction set by the Trilateral Commission?

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Or how would you categorize that?

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Yes, in fact, the pursuit of the North
American Technat dates back to 1932, when Columbia

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University embraced the Technocracy movement.

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Basically, they wanted to create a new
economic system—a resource-based economic system.

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And back then, they decided what the
North American Technat should look like.

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Basically, they had a map; they
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And yet they had this map, which included Greenland,
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well as Colombia and Venezuela at the tip of South America.

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That's a crazy plan, but that's what they said.

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Well, this is the natural geographical makeup of this continent.

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However, it did not cover all of South America.

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Nevertheless, they published this map.

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And it simply went unnoticed for years—even
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And Panama was another destination as well.

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And now Mexico and Canada are in the spotlight.

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So this seems to be the modern fulfillment of that early image.

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Yes, and it seems that not only is Trump in the know,
but so is Mark Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada.

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I mean, he's always saying, "If you're not
sitting at the table, you're on the menu."

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He's referring to Canada and other "medium-sized
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menu—that is, they'll probably be devoured soon, I guess.

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Oh, yeah. You know, that's interesting.

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The Trilateral Commission was, at least in
the public eye, largely inactive for 45 years.

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But now they're speaking up again,
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Mark Carney is a member of the Trilateral Commission, number one.

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Well, look at that.

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Keir Starmer in the United Kingdom is
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And there are also other members all over
the world who, so to speak, take their place.

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And then, of course, you have all those hardcore technocrats
in Washington, D.C.—who, by the way, are all billionaires.

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People like Kratsios, Lutnik, the Minister of
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These are the world's top technocrats.

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And they are rising up alongside members of
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Just imagine: This seems, so to speak, to be the end of
the “technotronic era” that Brzezinski spoke of in 1970.

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That's interesting.

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And the entire political order seems to be
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Would you agree with this:

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A lot of people say that Trump is the wrecking
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politicians throughout the Western world right now.

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Would you say that's the right way to think about it?

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I think so.

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You know, I have to say that this
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It was always about the economy,
which isn't obvious to most people.

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We are, so to speak, political beings.

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We want to discuss things.

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We want to analyze what is happening in Washington or elsewhere.

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And so, over the past 50 years, the economic system
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We see some crazy things coming out of the political
system, but all of that is also rooted in the economy:

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For example, the United Nations’
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It all began with doctrines originally
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But you see, we have agreements—global warming, you
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political issues, and people are scratching their heads.

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What are they thinking?

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From the very beginning, it was all about business.

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And so we see how the world is currently moving
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But it took a long time for us to reach this point.

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For example, when the Trilateral Commission took over the
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they explicitly stated that they had no interest in politics.

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We thought she was crazy for saying that,
you know, that she wasn't being sincere.

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But they were really serious about it; they had set their sights
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So if they could use that as a springboard to introduce their
new economic system: That worked very well when they passed

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it on to the United Nations to spread it throughout the world.

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Now we're dealing with a global technocracy, not just in America.

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That's right. So when you talk about this new
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I mean, what's the point of it all? What makes it special?

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As far as we're concerned, it will probably amount to a
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In a sense, this will replace the current political system.

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As early as 1932, the technocrats wanted
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And that's crazy.

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But they said, well, we have the science, we have the technical
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There's nothing to discuss.

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We'll just tell you what we figure
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And you just obey.

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So they thought that people didn't need to
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So there is no need for interpretation.

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And that's crazy.

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People ultimately rejected it, but the same philosophy—or, if you
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currently be observed in Washington, D.C., where they are
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And that means that politicians will eventually leave office.

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They are currently being reduced to a minimum.

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The power they may have had as recently as
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And they're still passing laws.

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They're still arguing about things.

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But they don't see this other monster
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will essentially take over the entire world.

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That's right. I spoke with my colleague yesterday, and part of
the conversation was about how Trump, with all his crazy

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behavior and his reckless demeanor—which many people find
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And that he's losing support because of it.

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And the question is, a lot of people think he makes a lot of
mistakes, you know, but is that even a mistake, or is that the

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actual plan—or part of the plan—to make politics seem so
ridiculous, so wrong, and basically pave the way for the

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system that comes after all of this—basically, after politics?

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That's it. That's a good observation.

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I think that's probably true.

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All the forces that have essentially torn Western society apart
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multiculturalism, the Marxist element, and the red-green
axis with Islam —are also part of the picture.

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All these other forces in the world tend to destroy society.

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And Trump, of course, is no Marxist, but he has, so to speak,
joined the demolition crew tearing down the old world order.

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But what comes next? That's what we need to focus on now.

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It's not about what happened
before, but about what will happen next.

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And you see these hardcore technocrats in Washington, D.C.

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They seem to have a plan for everything.

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You have set up a currency system.

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They have established their scientific
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infrastructure that has been installed worldwide.

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So they're ready to strike, especially with all
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It's unbelievable—not just in our country, but
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Right now, everyone is busy building data centers.

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Why do we need all this computing power for AI development?

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It's not just about being able to have a chatbot as a friend.

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That's not what it's meant for.

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This is about controlling the
entire world—all financial transactions.

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Imagine if the stock market were to feed this
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will—with data from sensors in cities all over the world.

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And now we even have tracking and
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own countries; we’re not immune to it either.

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So you see, the superstructure has already been
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Yes, that's true.

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And in this book, you mentioned all the AI
development plans and laws that were introduced just

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last year, during Trump's first year in office.

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What concerns you the most, or what do you
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The ideology behind many of these “tech bros,” as they’re called
in Washington, D.C.—people like the “David Sacks of

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the world” and the “Peter Thiels of the world”—is
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I have to say, he's not a philosopher, but he pretends to be one.

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And he has created a modern philosophy or
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But you can see many similarities.

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He created this philosophy that all
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For one thing, he wants to establish a monarchy,
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All state power is to be transferred to
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That means there would no longer
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Under such a system, Congress would be powerless.

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There might be a parliament, similar to the British one,
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And he wants to transform all private property in the United
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And SovCorp will own everything,
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This is roughly in line with what the
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“After 2030, you won’t own anything anymore.”

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By the way, that wasn't just some empty speculation
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But that was the plan from the very beginning:
to take all private wealth out of the hands

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of the people and put it into their own hands.

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That's really, that's crazy.

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What happened after Trump took office
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In the past, promises have always been broken .

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Every politician does that, right?

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It's clear to everyone that there will always be broken promises.

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But we're talking about something else here.

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What happened after the inauguration was that people—especially
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Enlightenment , by Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, Elon Musk, and all
these people who have taken over Washington,

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D.C., to introduce this completely alien system that
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That was a complete betrayal of the populist movement.

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And on top of that, all the other Americans who held different
views—perhaps even socialism or communism, who knows—were

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also deceived, because they, too, failed to see it coming.

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And no one asked them; no one tried to consult the American people
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Right, and I have a lot more follow-up questions, but to get back
to what you said about assets: They want to take

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everything away from us so that we own nothing anymore and, as
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What role does the tokenization of assets play in this?

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I mean, what is a tokenized asset compared to regular ownership?

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Well, this is a mechanism they can currently
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For example, from your home, real
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Tokenization—let me take a step back for a moment.

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We know that central banks around the world
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They were all involved, and it was spearheaded by the BIS .

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Immediately after taking office, Trump issued
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conducting any research on digital currencies.

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Well, that has paved the way for the privatization of a monetary
system created by people like Michael Kratsios, particularly

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David Sacks—the AI and crypto czar—and others in Washington.

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They have created a financial
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That used to be the central bank's responsibility.

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But now they have created a parallel track
to digitize assets—not debt, but assets.

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This so-called tokenization could, for example, lead to U.S.
Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick coveting the 680

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million acres of land that belong to the United
States, which is owned by the federal government in America.

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By the way, that's over 30% of our country.

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They shouldn't have it, but they do.

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He coveted all the land that could, so to speak, be
tokenized and converted into a tradable asset that

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could be sold worldwide to anyone who wanted to buy it.

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And the property is shattered into a thousand pieces.

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Someone will have to control this
property, but it won't be you and me.

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Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock, recently said at the WEF
meeting: "Everything that can be tokenized will be tokenized."

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All the world’s assets—the rainforest, the land of the
United States, your property, the houses, and other

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assets—have been amassed by the BlackRocks of this world.

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This allows them to create a tradable asset that is divided into
one thousand million parts—essentially like shares of stock.

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And where will these shares end up?

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Well, they could be in the hands of a sheikh in
Saudi Arabia, a dictator in Russia, or some

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other sovereign wealth fund somewhere in the world.

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Does anyone know where they're sold?

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Maybe BlackRock will end up with all these tokens itself.

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I don't know.

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But the point is that neither you nor I will have access to
it, nor will we have any way of controlling the property at all.

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So whoever has control over the
property—after all, the property doesn't move, does it?

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It's just there.

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A forest. It simply exists in space and time.

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So if someone has sold the entire value and it's
scattered all over the world, then someone has to come along

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and say, "Well, we're going to harvest this wood now."

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They'll get the trees— be cut down
and turned into lumber or whatever.

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Or this mine will be developed, and
we'll extract silver—or whatever—from it.

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Who will that be at that point?

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Well, at the local level, there
obviously isn't anyone who can do that.

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It has to be the people at the top who
control all these shares in the first place.

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Right. And let's say I own a house and a car. I
bought them with my own money and everything.

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Can this be tokenized, since we have national
debt and I'm a citizen who has to pay for it?

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Or aren't we ready yet?

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What do you think about that?

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We're not quite there yet, but I think we'll see when...

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It is likely that the United States
will eventually file for bankruptcy.

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I don't know what that will look like, but it's foreseeable.

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Countries can file for bankruptcy.

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They've done that before, so it wouldn't be a big deal for us.

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But the idea would be to remove the debt from the balance sheet.

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For the country, for the United States, and for all the people in
our country who are in debt, these debts must also be paid off.

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In other words: All debts will eventually be paid off.

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All that remains, then, are the assets.

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One could imagine, for example, that the 680 million
acres in our country would be tokenized and then held by

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BlackRock, which would then handle the public distribution.

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Imagine you own a house worth $500,000, have
$250,000 in debt on it, and have $250,000 in equity.

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Here's my offer:

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I will buy back your equity at double its value in the
form of tokens derived from the other tokenized assets.

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You will receive these tokens, and we will forgive your debts.

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We'll waive the entire amount for you.

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And at that point, you can rent the house back from us.

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And you can stay there and make your own improvements if
you'd like, with a long-term lease if that's what you want.

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And we'll own the property; you'll live in it, pay us rent,
and, for example, maybe have $500,000 in tokens in your pocket.

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And you might think that's a good deal.

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For many people, this will be a good deal.

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In fact, there are many people who
cannot leave their homes right now.

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Because even if they have equity, they can't move because
they would then have to pay another mortgage or rent that

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would be much higher than what they're currently paying.

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You can see that the decision would be an easy one for you:

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"Oh, I'll get these tokens , then I'll
rent a place, and life will be great."

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At that moment, you would be happy.

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But at this point, you have your
digital currency, and you're under control.

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The problem is that this means you
forfeit the chance to ever own property again.

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At some point, you'll run out of tokens.

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That's just the way life is.

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They'll use it up.

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At some point, you'll run out of them.

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Hopefully, of course, you'll have a job.

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And will you be able to replace that
equity with your job at that point?

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No, you won't, because you won't have enough income to save
enough money to start a business, carry out another project,

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build another house, or whatever else you might want to do.

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In principle, the elimination of debt
might seem appealing to some people.

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However, the price for this would be
the elimination of private property.

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That was a very, very good illustration. Thank you very much.

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And since we're on the subject of being out of a job:

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That is the reality for hundreds of thousands of
people who have been laid off in recent years.

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This year alone, tens of thousands of people have
already been laid off from the Big Tech industry and

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from all sorts of other sectors of the job market.

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And in your book, you quote Curtis Yarvin,
that thought leader, that political theorist.

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And he writes: "In short, our goal
is a humane alternative to genocide."

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This is the ideal solution, one that
achieves the same result as mass murder.

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This means, then, the removal of undesirable
elements from society, but without moral stigmatization.

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"And the best alternative I can think of is the virtualization of
those under our care, which means that a virtualized person is

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kept in constant solitary confinement in a cell
equipped with an immersive virtual reality interface

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that allows them to lead a rich, fulfilling life."

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Isn't that crazy?

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Who would even listen to this guy?

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And I'm curious to know who's listening to him.

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And while we're on the subject of this theory: What's the
plan for all these unemployed people, whose numbers keep rising?

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Well, you know, old Curtis got
hooked on that movie, *The Matrix*.

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Basically, that was exactly what
the movie *The Matrix* was about.

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People who were in a cell without knowing they were in a cell.

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And they were led to believe in an imaginary
world where they could pretend, I suppose.

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And the plot was definitely a crazy premise.

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It had many gaps.

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It shouldn't be possible, but you can still see that Curtis
Yarvins' thinking was influenced by a movie like "The Matrix."

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I think there were three *Matrix* movies in the end, but
the first one probably showed what it was talking about.

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Exactly.

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You're right.

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Who wants to listen to a weirdo like that?

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Aside from the concept of virtualization, when he
talks about the humane alternative to genocide.

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He says that this is the ideal solution, one
that leads to the same results as mass murder.

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That's right.

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So he equates this with mass murder.

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And, in parentheses, “the elimination
of undesirable elements from society.”

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Who does he refer to as undesirable elements of society?

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Maybe everyone who is unemployed?

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He doesn't say that.

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The useless class, as Mr. Harari would say.

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I know.

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And then he continues: "but without the moral stigma."

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So there is a moral conflict that he simply brushes aside:

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"It's like murder, but we don't
have to worry about the moral stigma."

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"Because we're not really going to kill him.

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"We'll just drive him crazy, lock him up
in a cell, and give him a wonderful life."

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The idea that anyone could think this guy should
speak for the entire tech industry is just crazy.

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And I have to say that, above all, these “tech bros” in
Washington, D.C., are all following his philosophy right now.

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While there are many people in Silicon Valley who
disagree with Curtis Yarvin, they are not in power.

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That's the problem.

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So we can't say that all the tech bros in Washington or
Silicon Valley believe Curtis Yarvin. Because they don't.

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But the people who have made it to the top—all of whom, by the
way, are billionaires—I don't know a single one among

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them who isn't a billionaire, like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel,
Michael Kratsios, all those people—they're billionaires.

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They are the crème de la crème, and that is their philosophy.

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That's crazy.

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Speaking of billionaires' philosophies:

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In your book, you have a chapter on Peter Thiel
in which you outline these 10 points of his

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philosophy. And one of them is: “Monopolize everything!”

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That's his motto!

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So my question for you is: To what
extent is Big Tech currently monopolized?

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In your opinion, how big is this monopoly?

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Do you have any practical examples of how this plays out?

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Absolutely.

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Take Palantir, for example.

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That's the company he founded together with Alex Karp.

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By the way, both are members of the
Bilderberg Group's steering committee.

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That's, of course, enormous.

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But basically, that means they're also master globalists.

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Speaking of Palantir—Palantir is taking the world by storm.

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There's no one who can even come close to
holding a candle to what they're doing all over

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the world with their surveillance software.

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They've just taken over the United Kingdom. And the
United Kingdom is completely thrown off track right now

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because Palantir has taken over all of its intelligence work.

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And in the United States, they’re doing the same
thing: They’re not just collecting the data in Washington,

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D.C., that came to light through the “DOGE” operation .

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All data has been moved to the cloud. All of these
different data silos have been moved to the cloud.

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And then Trump tasked Palantir with taking all that
data and turning it into actionable intelligence.

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Then they were in the military, too.

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They are currently the driving
force behind AI in the military sector.

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Let's take a look at that.

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There's the civilian side, and there's
the military side. What else is there?

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Well, the intelligence agencies have them, too.

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And we mustn't forget that Palantir
was originally founded as a CIA company.

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When it was originally founded, its purpose was essentially to
outsource intelligence activities in order to

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create a comprehensive information system
covering everything and every citizen in the country.

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That was TIA , a program for
comprehensive information collection.

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It was rejected by Congress.

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The CIA wanted to do it, but Congress
said, “No, you’re not going to do that!”

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So they stopped it.

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And then came Peter Thiel, who founded
Palantir to wrest responsibility—or the

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torch—from the government and privatize everything.

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So their first client was the CIA for several years,
while they perfected their software according to the

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specifications the CIA wanted to incorporate into it.

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So, at the moment, it does indeed have a monopoly.

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There's no one who can compete with him.

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There is no one who could take his place.

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And that is the essence of a monopoly.

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Yes, and the critical point for me is that as soon as
all this data—collected from all these people—is linked

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to your identity, they really know everything about you.

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They know where you are—in real time.

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And my question for you: How close are we to that already?

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Are we there yet, or what's the status?

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I see that we're already that far
along in terms of infrastructure.

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Not everything is activated yet, but I
think the infrastructure has been set up.

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Now, one might argue that there may be a
limit to these massive AI data centers.

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Or maybe they have 2,000 right now and say, “We
need to have 3,000 before we can implement this plan.”

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I don't know what the threshold would be—but
right now they're building these things like crazy.

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They're investing more money in her than she has.

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Your money also comes from the Middle East, from Islamic sources,
to build our data centers, along with other

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equity capital provided by all these other
billionaires to build this infrastructure.

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This is undoubtedly a control system
capable of managing all information in society.

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And the purpose of collecting all this data in the first
place and feeding it into AI software is to be able to

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manipulate the object from which it was originally collected.

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That's the nature of data, isn't it?

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You don't collect data just to store it in a shoebox.

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Right, sure. You want to influence that person.

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You want to get to know this person better than they
know themselves, create a personality profile, and

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manipulate the public without their consent, don't you?

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Yes, exactly.

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That's interesting.

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And now we’re seeing how the whole situation in Gaza is
unfolding, and interestingly, people are openly talking about

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establishing a technocracy there, and many people see this as a
kind of... well, the whole situation in Gaza since the start of

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the war—since October 7, and even before that—has long
been an open-air prison with massive surveillance—and they

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see it somewhat as a trial run for the rest of the world.

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What do you think?

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Is this whole situation in Gaza
some kind of local testing ground?

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Everywhere there were conflicts. And that wasn't just the case
in Gaza. Ukraine, too, was and remains a huge testing ground.

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That's right.

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But wherever there is a conflict—a major military
conflict, especially one that drags on… There are

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certain hotspots around the world, such as Nigeria.

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For example, you can see that Palantir is testing
or rolling out its software because combat

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conditions are necessary to test the software. You know...

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And now they're testing it at ICE , aren't they?

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I've heard that ICE uses
Palantir's software and facial recognition.

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Absolutely. Definitely.

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That's just a trial balloon, right?

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Yeah, yeah. I know. They use it for identification,
for targeting, and for back-end access to other systems.

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I recently heard a story about a woman who was
protesting against the ICE. Her photo had been taken

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with a smartphone equipped with special software.

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In other words, the ICE agent took a photo of
her—a headshot—and she thought that was the end of it.

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A month later, she found out that she had been removed from
the "Clear" program—the program that allows her to board a

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plane without having to go through the regular security check.

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You know, there's a program. I think it's
called "Clear." And you have to apply for it.

421
00:42:50,345 --> 00:42:55,322
So you provide all the information,
including your biometric data and so on.

422
00:42:55,322 --> 00:42:59,697
And then you can board the plane
just by quickly showing your face.

423
00:42:59,697 --> 00:43:02,593
Well, she was kicked out of that program.

424
00:43:02,593 --> 00:43:05,189
So, how could that have happened?

425
00:43:05,189 --> 00:43:15,118
Well, there was a connection between the time the ICE officer
took her photo and the time she was removed from the program.

426
00:43:17,353 --> 00:43:18,220
Wow.

427
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:22,080
See, that has quite a lot of implications, doesn't it?

428
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:28,064
The TSA is completely different from ICE, but still,

429
00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:30,040
So they're connected to each other, right?

430
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,306
Yes, exactly.

431
00:43:34,978 --> 00:43:37,579
My goodness. That's a crazy story.

432
00:43:37,579 --> 00:43:40,048
And I wonder how much more of this is still going on.

433
00:43:40,048 --> 00:43:44,165
Do you have these facial recognition cameras in Arizona now, too?

434
00:43:44,165 --> 00:43:45,033
Oh, yeah.

435
00:43:45,033 --> 00:43:47,118
There are a lot of cameras.

436
00:43:47,118 --> 00:43:51,517
Of course, not all of them use facial recognition.

437
00:43:54,033 --> 00:43:54,697
That's right.

438
00:43:54,697 --> 00:43:59,380
For example, there are plenty of
these license plate readers in Arizona.

439
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:01,580
Oh, yeah.

440
00:44:03,501 --> 00:44:11,159
They identify your car by taking a “fingerprint” of it, so
to speak—not just the license plate, but also the dents and

441
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:15,728
the stickers on the bumper—basically everything on your car.

442
00:44:15,728 --> 00:44:20,962
You can combine all this information.

443
00:44:20,962 --> 00:44:21,923
Oh, that's interesting.

444
00:44:21,923 --> 00:44:33,360
Then they'll know: “You drive a 2012 Hyundai sports car with,
let's say, pro-life stickers on the back or something like that.”

445
00:44:37,243 --> 00:44:43,926
And they can give your vehicle an imprint—a
fingerprint, so to speak—that can be recognized elsewhere.

446
00:44:43,926 --> 00:44:45,845
Yes.

447
00:44:48,118 --> 00:44:54,892
This is the kind of surveillance system that
can track your whereabouts wherever you go.

448
00:44:54,892 --> 00:44:59,197
It doesn't matter where you go, even across national borders.

449
00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:04,180
So... these systems are currently being installed everywhere.

450
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:11,408
Wow.

451
00:45:11,408 --> 00:45:17,650
Well, Patrick, we have to wrap things up soon, but I
have two more questions—maybe the second-to-last one.

452
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:21,720
At the end of your book, you'll find this list of technocrats.

453
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,900
It's just a short chapter with names.

454
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:32,103
What struck me was that four of these
individuals are actually executives at Anduril and

455
00:45:32,103 --> 00:45:36,595
are now in the government or very close to it.

456
00:45:40,142 --> 00:45:42,025
What do you see coming our way?

457
00:45:42,025 --> 00:45:47,884
And what does this mean for the future of warfare
and for the future of a state's executive power?

458
00:45:47,884 --> 00:45:53,660
Anduril is exactly that—a company that
manufactures autonomous killing machines.

459
00:45:56,399 --> 00:46:00,712
I know. Isn't it strange that they're leading this group?

460
00:46:00,712 --> 00:46:04,813
Yes, Anduril and Palantir are really very similar.

461
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:09,300
And what can I say—basically, this is a monopoly.

462
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,899
And they march in step.

463
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:28,096
There is a close connection between the two
companies, not only in terms of management but also in

464
00:46:28,096 --> 00:46:31,446
terms of the interoperability of their software.

465
00:46:31,446 --> 00:46:38,190
Well, yes. That's really, really troubling.

466
00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:40,104
Yes.

467
00:46:46,110 --> 00:46:51,665
Wow. You often talk about the term
"omni-war," meaning a war on all fronts.

468
00:46:51,665 --> 00:46:59,227
And when I watch the daily news, that term always comes to mind,
because I think that's exactly what we're being shown, isn't it?

469
00:46:59,227 --> 00:47:02,532
Attacks and crazy developments coming from all sides.

470
00:47:02,532 --> 00:47:10,390
If you had to tell our audience or the general
public what we should be focusing on right now, what

471
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:15,780
do you think should be addressed or prioritized?

472
00:47:18,032 --> 00:47:25,555
We certainly won't be able to stop it at the national
level, but it has trickled down to the local level.

473
00:47:25,555 --> 00:47:26,962
Yes.

474
00:47:26,962 --> 00:47:30,423
But you have the power to influence things at the local level.

475
00:47:30,423 --> 00:47:33,235
At least, that's how it should be.

476
00:47:33,235 --> 00:47:40,399
There is a city council whose members live in your neighborhood
and are accessible to you. You can contact them directly.

477
00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:45,235
You can talk to them and convince them
not to let that trash into our city.

478
00:47:45,235 --> 00:47:52,793
For example, you can block crime prevention
software, facial recognition cameras, and data centers.

479
00:47:52,793 --> 00:47:55,024
Oh yeah.

480
00:48:00,448 --> 00:48:08,008
All of these things can be rejected by your city council
or, if you don't live in a city, by your county authorities.

481
00:48:08,008 --> 00:48:10,915
And that is exactly what we should focus on now:

482
00:48:10,915 --> 00:48:14,180
to build a protective wall around our community.

483
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:18,180
Don't let all this AI stuff get to you.

484
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:27,329
Companies such as OpenAI and Grok have all developed
special versions of their AI programs for government agencies.

485
00:48:31,415 --> 00:48:33,712
That's right.

486
00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:44,766
I'm trying to remember what it's called. I think it's called Open
AI, simply "OpenAI for Government Agencies" . I believe G-O-V .

487
00:48:44,766 --> 00:48:48,795
Yeah, and "Grok for Government," I think.

488
00:48:48,795 --> 00:48:51,471
Well, they're selling it to the federal government.

489
00:48:51,471 --> 00:48:52,851
Yes.

490
00:48:52,851 --> 00:48:56,071
You're basically covering the
entire federal government with that.

491
00:48:56,071 --> 00:49:03,866
But originally, they said in their press
release that they would also market it to the states.

492
00:49:03,866 --> 00:49:06,321
Oh, okay.

493
00:49:06,321 --> 00:49:10,946
That means they'll eventually take it to the city level.

494
00:49:10,946 --> 00:49:19,626
Under no circumstances do they want their city to have
anything to do with, for example, OpenAI Gov or Grok Gov.

495
00:49:19,626 --> 00:49:22,712
This can be blocked at the local level.

496
00:49:22,712 --> 00:49:24,790
Will the government do it?

497
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:26,493
Most likely not.

498
00:49:26,493 --> 00:49:30,102
And you know they'll say, "Oh, that's wonderful."

499
00:49:30,102 --> 00:49:32,805
We can be more efficient, blah, blah, blah.

500
00:49:32,805 --> 00:49:34,800
Sure.

501
00:49:36,345 --> 00:49:40,110
But you can take a stand now and counter that.

502
00:49:40,110 --> 00:49:44,940
As they say in old Western movies: “Intercept them at the pass.”

503
00:49:48,712 --> 00:49:52,540
So that's what we should focus on now.

504
00:49:56,024 --> 00:49:58,391
Yes, that's a good point.

505
00:49:58,391 --> 00:50:05,540
And I think the most important argument—and I see this at the
company where I work, too—is that people accept AI because it

506
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:09,696
helps them and saves them time when completing tasks and so on.

507
00:50:09,696 --> 00:50:11,823
What—what are the arguments against all of this?

508
00:50:11,823 --> 00:50:18,144
There are so many benefits that people see when
they say, “Hey, we need this AI for our city hall.”

509
00:50:18,144 --> 00:50:24,400
Do you have any points we can share with people?

510
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,595
Well, aside from what we're discussing
right now, there's so much information.

511
00:50:29,595 --> 00:50:38,180
I mean, even if you only have this information
here, you still have something to talk about.

512
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:44,619
But there are so many aspects to this. AI is
simply permeating every area of society and

513
00:50:44,619 --> 00:50:49,485
is now also being used in the business world.

514
00:51:00,227 --> 00:51:02,805
People have no idea what's going on.

515
00:51:02,805 --> 00:51:10,477
For example, if your auto or home insurance
policy is canceled, it's probably due to AI.

516
00:51:10,477 --> 00:51:15,720
And you'll never get an explanation
as to why your insurance was canceled.

517
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:21,880
But she's realized that you're a
risk they no longer want to take.

518
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,641
And you'll get kicked out and have to pay more somewhere else.

519
00:51:25,641 --> 00:51:32,520
At the hospital, your surgery will likely be
approved by an AI—not by a human, but by an AI program.

520
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:39,329
And if it says you don't need this
procedure or test, you won't have it.

521
00:51:39,329 --> 00:51:46,243
But no one will ever tell you, "Well,
the AI made that decision for you."

522
00:51:47,759 --> 00:51:51,034
Basically, it's simply time to resist.

523
00:51:51,034 --> 00:51:52,539
Time to resist. Exactly.

524
00:51:52,539 --> 00:51:56,298
With all our might—but not with us!

525
00:51:58,001 --> 00:52:01,618
Okay. Yes, I highly recommend this book to everyone.

526
00:52:01,618 --> 00:52:06,798
I mean, it's frightening, but it's the
reality, and these are the people we're dealing with.

527
00:52:06,798 --> 00:52:14,649
And I really liked your message about confronting our
local authorities with reality and with the people behind it.

528
00:52:14,649 --> 00:52:17,245
And that's probably the most powerful weapon we have right now.

529
00:52:17,245 --> 00:52:20,188
We just have to show up and go out there, right?

530
00:52:20,188 --> 00:52:21,595
Yes, that's exactly right.

531
00:52:21,595 --> 00:52:27,140
Yes, don't be afraid to appear on
their cameras if you show your face.

532
00:52:27,140 --> 00:52:27,929
That's right.

533
00:52:27,929 --> 00:52:31,120
They already know who you are.

534
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,025
Don't worry!

535
00:52:32,025 --> 00:52:38,100
If you want to protest, just go out and
do it—they'll find you one way or another.

536
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,659
They already know who you are.

537
00:52:39,659 --> 00:52:43,235
They know. They have a profile of you everywhere.

538
00:52:43,235 --> 00:52:49,220
So don't think that anyone can hide by not showing their face.

539
00:52:57,165 --> 00:52:58,487
Right. Wonderful.

540
00:52:58,487 --> 00:53:01,307
Well, Patrick, thank you very much for this wonderful interview.

541
00:53:01,307 --> 00:53:08,048
And finally, one more question: Where can people
find your free work, and where can they buy your book?

542
00:53:08,048 --> 00:53:11,274
Yes, of course. Technocracy.news

543
00:53:11,274 --> 00:53:14,188
The books are available there.

544
00:53:14,188 --> 00:53:19,274
But you can also buy individual books on Amazon.

545
00:53:19,274 --> 00:53:23,321
And the audiobook, too. It's very popular right now.

546
00:53:23,321 --> 00:53:27,700
And the Kindle version is also available on Amazon.

547
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:32,204
So if you want those, go to Amazon.

548
00:53:32,204 --> 00:53:37,118
You can only get the books themselves at technocracy.news.

549
00:53:37,118 --> 00:53:42,787
If you are outside the United States, you
should not do this, as international shipping costs

550
00:53:42,787 --> 00:53:46,032
are currently higher than the price of the book.

551
00:53:46,032 --> 00:53:52,181
So you can go to Amazon and order the book
in Australia, Europe, the United Kingdom,

552
00:53:52,181 --> 00:53:56,891
and Canada through your local Amazon website.

553
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,040
Wonderful, Patrick Wood, thank you
very much for joining us again on Kla.TV!

554
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,260
Thank you.

555
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:12,002
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556
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